Rey beating Kylo

>>82932600
She has a powerlevel of 6 million,,,

Supershadow has put Rey's midichlorian-count above Anakin and Yoda, so she's pretty strong. Kylo is at Luke's level.

She will probably become more powerful than Anakin and Luke.

>>82932600
Significantly more powerful.

>>82932600
UNLIMITED POWER

>>82932600
She a shit

>>82932600
She hasn't had her midochlorian count measured yet, but I'm sure she'll be able to use tier 2 force lightning and force sprint without draining her stamina gauge by the 3rd flick.

The real question is, how shit is Kylo Ren?

>>82933395
Unironically pretty shit to barely be able to defeat a janitor who's never held a lightsaber before in a lightsaber duel
>inb4 "He was playing with him!"
So why didn't he kill him? How the fuck did Finn manage to get a glancing blow on Kylo?

>>82933518
it's almost like he just got shot with a crossbow

honestly if you can't understand a childrens movie then you shouldn't bother with cinema, stick to video games kiddo

>>82933554
shot with crossbow is fucking nothing

he stopped a fucking blaster bolt in midair and held it there passively for minutes

nobody has done that, not even vader or yoda.

luke got a glancing blow on vader's shoulder and vader immediately stopped playing with his food and took off his hand 3 moves after that

kylo should've destroyed finn and never had the lightsaber move 2 inches towards rey

JJ. Is. A. Hack.

>>82933518
kylo ren is the mask

without the mask he has no power

but it's mental, you know? not a supernatural thing

it's just some pottery stuff

i think it's pretty cool

>>82934086
>he stopped a fucking blaster bolt in midair and held it there passively for minutes
what? youre fucking stupid. kylo was literally within less than a mile of the map he needed to kill luke and was about massacre a bunch of alien scum for fun of course he was full of confidence and force power

>>82934187
what?

he held it there like it was no big deal, he wasn't frozen with his hand outstretched struggling with it the whole time, it was like he'd done it before and relegated it to the background once he stopped it

he used the force to telepathically interrogate information.

that implies he's an insane force powers. the ending was pure garbage

>>82934086
>shot with crossbow is fucking nothing
Except it clearly isn't, because it leaves a horrible wound that he needs to keep holding onto.

JJ is a fucking hack

Kylo is only shown grimmacing at the crossbow injury twice. Once when he gets shot initially, and later when he bashes his own wound and drips blood on the ground. If he's injured, they really didn't do a good job of showing it. That's why everyone is pissed she beat him, because the injury was barely shown, so it can't be used as an excuse. It's basically headcanon.

just scroll through this and look at the amount of NEET losers defending how Rey isnt a shitty mary sue

https://www.quora.com/Is-Rey-from-The-Force-Awakens-a-Mary-Sue

>>82932600
Kylo is also severely injured and mentally fucked at this point. But apparently that's not good enough for most people.

>>82933518
He was playing with him, though. Finn got in a lucky shot and the moment he did, the fight ended in literally two moves. Pay attention. I'm pretty sure if I sliced through someone's spine I think he was dead. Mostly I think he just didn't care enough to check, since he wanted the lightsaber and then got into it with Rey.

>>82934254
it's almost as if in the beginning of the movie he's confident that he's the new Darth Vader and at the end of the movie he's a crying emotional wreck whose entire worldview has crumbled around him and he's questioning everything he believes

like how Vader was a stoic badass in ANH and ESB but was basically a cucked crybaby in RotJ, which allowed him to lose to the calm and composed Luke.

>>82932600
Ten plot requirements more powerful.

Kylo is a robot. After He gets shot he keeps beating his machinery to restart it and some oil spills out.

>>82934404
Why the fuck do you need things spelled out for you so much? What do you want, him to be gushing blood all over the snow? They showed him being very injured plenty, he just fought through it. Plus we had those other scenes that were specifically there just so we knew the bowcaster's power and how injured Kylo was when he got shot. Learn how to movie.

>>82934404
This. It would have made a huge difference if they had just had a 30 second scene showing just how badly injured he really is and him consciously having to use the force to keep from passing out/dying while simultaneously having to fight Finn and Rey.

As it is, it's presented so badly there's no coherent argument for the bowcaster wound being anything more than a slight irritation.

>>82934624
it's not, as >>82934404 said, JJ did a poor job of showing it

>>82934684
> Vader was a stoic badass in ANH and ESB but was basically a cucked crybaby in RotJ, which allowed him to lose to the calm and composed Luke.
> calm and composed Luke.
not sure if bait

vader only lost because luke tapped into the dark side and went rage mode, but he walked himself back. that's the whole point, luke did what anakin did not and walked away from temptation

>>82934684
I'm starting to think there's no point in explaining this very simple movie to these retards. They're just going to see what they want to see because they're asspained about Rey winning.

>>82934761
Luke taps into his rage to land the finishing blow but he's basically playing with Vader the whole fight because he doesn't want to kill his dad, at no point is Vader ever in control during that duel

>>82934761
But he didn't do a poor job of showing it. Not everyone is retarded and needs multiple scenes of Kylo bleeding and screaming to understand his injury. If he'd done that, you all would just be crying about how Kylo's being a cry baby about his wound.

>>82934755
They showed the bowcaster blowing away two stormtroopers. Specifically so you understood the extent of Kylo's injury. They showed him bleeding on the snow, which means he's bleeding enough that it dripped through all of his thick clothes.

You're retarded if you think there's no coherent argument just because he wasn't writhing on the ground.

the bowcaster scene actually makes it worse

1) hand has known chewie almost his entire adult life, he was acting like an autistic fanboy over the bowcaster, he knows exactly what it's capable of

2) those stromtroopers got fucking launched in the air in full fucking armor like ragdolls, and kylo was protected with literal plot armor

this isn't about generic exposition that JJ could've done, but just poor editing in general that, for such a powerful weapon it was barely shown to be damaging to kylo

>>82932600
her powerlevel is the same as superman

>>82932600
as strong as the plot needs her to be

>>82934944
>1) hand has known chewie almost his entire adult life, he was acting like an autistic fanboy over the bowcaster, he knows exactly what it's capable of

Maybe Chewie recently got it upgraded?

>2) those stromtroopers got fucking launched in the air in full fucking armor like ragdolls, and kylo was protected with literal plot armor

Kylo is superhumanly durable due to his power level in the Force.

Well, I tried. Lame, huh?

>>82934869
>They showed the bowcaster blowing away two stormtroopers
Then why didn't it blow him off the bridge?
>You're retarded if you think there's no coherent argument just because he wasn't writhing on the ground
There's no coherent argument because IT DOESN'T AFFECT HIM AT ALL. It doesn't affect his movement or his abilities in any visible way whatsoever. He's not slower or weaker or fading in and out of consciousness or anything. It's all just aesthetic.

>>82935052
>doesn't affect him at all
>grunting
>almost limping/barely walking upright
>bleeding
did you even watch it?

>>82932600
pusy power

EVERY FUCKING DAY THE SAME EXACT THREAD WITH THE SAME EXACT POSTS AGAIN AND AGAIN, HOW THE FUCK AREN'T YOU AUTISTS TIRED OF MAKING THE SAME GAY ASS POINTS FOR 2 YEARS NOW LIKE ANYONE WILL CHANGE HIS OPINION SUDDENLY

JUST STOP BUMPING THIS DEGENERATE FUCKING "DISCUSSION" ALREADY please I beg you

>>82935132
>grunting
>bleeding
Literally purely aesthetic.
>almost limping/barely walking upright
He spends the whole movie lurching and stomping around like a humpback.

How was Rey able to pull the lightsaber out of the snow???

She is really hot, so a lot.

>>82932945
She already is. Leaks say she's the chosen one, not Luke or Anakin. The salt will be stong when everyone finds out that Luke is a nobody in the new trilogy.

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>>82935996
>Leaks say she's the chosen one
Fucking kek I love JJ now

>>82935387
She used the force.

>>82935243
Second

>>82932634
/Thread

The power of 6 gorillion Mary sues combined!

>>82935038
nah it's plot holes

>>82932600
Jesus Christ. How many times do we have this thread every day?

>>82935996
Chosen for what? There aren't any Sith left.

>>82932600
It's amazing how bad Star Wars is without Sheev