Who sabotaged the blood test?

the thing

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The Thing probably has the most autistic fanbase (in a good way)

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>>82921538
It physically pains me how rare horror films this well-detailed are made. Decades later and people are STILL debating if Childs was The Thing (he wasn't IMO).

>>82921469

The Thing
v I agree with this guy v
>>82921494

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>>82921583
I like to think that he wasn't.
If the prequel is anything to go off of, which it is because Carpenter confirmed that it was canon, The Thing can't replicate non-organic material. Childs still has his earring at the end, so he should be humor. The no breath and drinking kerosene theories make me wonder though,

Here's a wallpaper for your time

>>82921662
>humor
*human

Fuck, I'm tired

>>82921583
I concur that Child's wasn't The Thing.

>>82921662
I thought the black dude was the one who drank the kerosene only after Childs pretended to take a large swig?

Haven't seen the movie in a year or so.

>>82921719
That's why it's a flimsy theory. You see Kurt Russell drink it before Childs shows up. Maybe he was trying to kill himself before the cold or the thing does instead, but it's still a flimsy theory.

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>>82921662
Macready says it himself:

>I know I'm human. And if you were all these things, then you'd just attack me right now, so some of you are still human.

If Childs was The Thing it could've VERY EASILY overpowered Macready in his weakened state. The Thing doesn't fuck around, there'd be no reason not to immediately assimilate him.

>>82921719
>>82921662
https://twitter.com/thehorrormaster/status/172531459201052672?lang=en
https://twitter.com/thehorrormaster/status/272063161832701953?lang=en


If John Carpenter did in fact say that the prequel is canon, then MacCready HAS to be the Thing.

I prefer the theory that the Thing was killed and they both freeze to death in the snow, but hey word of God and all.

The Thing (2011) should have been titled something else.
Obviously shit like "The Thing Begins" is cringy as fuck, but since it's a prequel, it should have been titled "The Thing From Another World." Like the original form the 50s

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>>82921662
you can see the Bennings Thing's breath when he moans

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Is The Thing the most dangerous alien in the universe?

I'm talking solely biologically. I mean realistically if The Thing ever made it to the ocean the earth would be 100% fucked.

>>82921828
The Thing In The Ice

>>82921838
Pretty much yeah. It's two biggest strengths are that it's intelligent, but also completely lacking in emotion.

>>82921828
Also what's the general consensus on The Thing (2011)?

imo I thought it was alright. Obviously not better than the 1982 one, but still enjoyable. Definitely needed more build up though. In the 1982 one, you get enough time to know all the characters and their personalities. The 2011 one has very little build up, the action starts way too fast, and the only characters that had any sort of character were MEW, the fucker who played Loyd in that Dumb and Dumber prequel, and Joel Edgerton

>>82921856
>but also completely lacking in emotion.

Someone post it

>>82921823

Carpenter also said the Xbox sequel is canon and it features Mac living, rescuing you at the end, and Childs dying and freezing to death (uninfected).

The film is meant to be left open though, as a self contained story. Looking for some be all end all answer defeats the point of the ending.

>>82921920
That shitty Things short story?
Nah, it's retarded.
"I will rape it into them"

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>>82921908
If we're talking barebones plot it was... Decent I guess?

The terrible CGI absolutely ruined it though. I don't get how you can take a movie FAMOUS for its practical effects, and do... This.

>>82921828
Da Thang Back 2 Da Hood when?

>>82921952
There's a video on youtube of all the practical effects that were supposed to be in the prequel. It's sad to watch because it would have probably be the only film since the 1982 one to have God tier practicals.

>>82921995
The Thing Saves Christmas

>>82921538
The scale for this seems way too small.

And yes, the fans can be quite autistic, I like it though.

>>82921924
>Carpenter also said the Xbox sequel is canon and it features Mac living, rescuing you at the end, and Childs dying and freezing to death (uninfected).
I'm willing to trust this over the prequel. Even ignoring any prequels/sequels I don't think either one of them is infected. None of the evidence for it stands up.

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>>82922003
>>82921995

>>82921943
Good fap material imo

Didn't Rob Ager use his autism powers to determine it was Windows?

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>>82922003
Just remake all the Ernest movies with The Thing

>>82922035
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psxFyMoqbJ8

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Why didn't the Thing turn into a flying alien?

Stupid movie desu

>>82922035
Windows dropped the keys when he walked in on Bennings's assimilation

>>82921908
>>82921952
At least the boss at the end was good. Scary as shit I had nightmares for weeks and it made me so tired in school

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>>82922091
Oh wait he says it was Palmer not Windows

whatever

>>82922085
maybe it never assimilated or saw anything with wings?

>>82922085
It can't create, just makes copies.

>>82922130
>saw anything with wings
It wouldn't fly but it should have become a penguin.

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>>82921662
Why didn't the thing just become the snow and crawl out? Never understood this.

The Thing had an encounter with humans at the norwegian camp and saw how dangerous they were. Why didn't it bypass the american camp in dog form and go straight for the ocean to start assimilating all wild life on earth. I mean the dog went 2000km between the two bases so it obviously didnt need food and was very resistant to cold

Why didnt the thing just give itself fur or an organ which gives it a tremendous amount of bodyheat so that it could just walk wherever it wanted to go without freezing?

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>>82921952
>tfw the teeth check scene

Call it homage or whatever, it just felt cheap. Also, they didn't have enough material to creatively kill off the cast 1 by 1 throughout the movie so they just fucking kill off half the cast in 1 fell swoop during that scene. Besides the CGI, that whole sequence really killed the ***prequel*** for me

>>82922232
It was being chased by a helicopter with a gunman you stupid nigger

I always took the whiskey offering at the end to mirror the whiskey he pours in the computer game at the beginning.

He said the computer game cheated, so he forced the game to end by breaking it. I think that means with Childs he recognizes the "game" is rigged, with him not having any way to tell if he's real or not. So he's either accepted he's lost and is quitting the game, or he's just given up on the game of figuring out who's a Thing and so he's just going to kill Childs no matter what.

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Why didn't The Thing just talk and establish peace amongst the human?

>>82922232
Because it wanted to build a ship.
Also I thought in severe cold it would just go dormant, not be totally resistant to it.

The real question is why didn't it go back to its original ship.

>>82922287
It didn't want to, obviously.

It's the same answer as "why didn't they just let the Thing leave in its spaceship"? It wanted to assimilate them all, it didn't have to. It wouldn't have left the planet, it would have just flown out of the arctic.

>>82922278
>music starts just as Childs takes a sip
>MacReady smiles and gives a slight chuckle when he does

What did they mean by this?

Kurt Russell x MEW please

>>82921662
Taking the prequel into consideration
I like to think the thing learned how it couldn't replicate inorganic material
it assimilated Childs then remembering the Swedes picked up the earring and put it in

>>82922507
It does seem a lot smarter in Carpenter's film. The prequel thing just goes around killing in plain sight. The 1982 one, for the most part, tries to go in stealthily. Maybe it learned.

>>82922551
Did it learn how to get dubs though

>>82922392
It's either a chuckle of "you're not worried about getting infected from sharing a drink because you're already infected. I got you, fucker, time to burn" or a chuckle of "wow, if you're an imitation, you're good. fuck it, i give up".

>>82922551
If he didn't go check on the dogs at that exact moment, the movie would've been over very quickly.

>>82922551
Yeah that just made the most sense to me
It also makes the prequel a lot less shitty if you think of the thing as a monster that slowly learns to deal with its surrounding

How did the Thing know that it had to sabotage the blood, before they even realized blood could be used to test for the Thing.

>>82921469
Palmer gets assimilated during the Blair's outburst and sabotages the blood banks, using the key which Windows dropped in the storage room.

>>82922722
It's wicked smaht.

>>82922722
If we're counting prequel its because it knew because that had already been suggested in its presence so it responded appropriately. Back with just the 1982 version however, I'm not sure. Wasn't Norris and Palmer technically infected at the same time? Maybe it has a hivemind between its separate organisms because Norris was present when blood test was suggested.

>>82922674
>It also makes the prequel a lot less shitty if you think of the thing as a monster that slowly learns to deal with its surrounding
That's what I tell myself. Although, it's probably not true.

>>82922727
Palmer is the first one to be assimilated m8. Thats his shadow when the dog wanders into the room early on while Mac checks out the Norwegian outpost.

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>>82922926
Shit you're right

What really buys me was how the norwegians handled the situation in the first film, throwing grenades around, blowing your own helicopter and shooting unarmed people without any explanation seems like a bad way to leave a first impression.
I mean didn't they at least know some basic english to tell the americans that the dog was infected?

>>82923075
How do you sink a Norwegian submarine?

Swim down and knock on the hatch.

>>82923075
Even the Americans were pretty retarded.
If you saw Norwegians flying a helicopter and shooting at a dog, obviously something is up. But nah, kill the dudes and take the dog's side.

>>82923075
In the context of the first movie I guess we can just assume they were hysterical with fear and they were trying to contain it. But otherwise yes, they were being painfully stupid and they should have known to speak English.

What would be your idea for an original Thing story?

Hard mode: no sequel, prequel, or explanation of the Thing as an entity or the ambiguous ending of John Carpenter's movie.

>>82923346
A common fan theory is that the ship in the beginning was piloted by other aliens, the Thing got on board, fucked everything up and they crashed. That would be a pretty good movie by itself desu.

>>82923346
That there were other things aside from the one that attacked the Norwegian camp.

This could go in several directions, like the thing attaching itself to animals and spreading itself around that way (so other scientists may be affected, along with fisherman/hunters). The Thing on a ship is another possible direction, but it might feel too similar to the original, I don't know.

Either way I'll be expecting my shekels if you turn this into a movie.

>>82923346
I dunno about a full story, but I always liked the idea of a Thing being such a perfect replication that even another imitation doesn't know if it's real or not.

One of the most interesting interpretations of the final scene with MacReady and Childs is that they're BOTH Things bouncing their imitated speech off of each other, and basically they can't figure out how to ask if the other one is like them without giving themselves away if the other one is human.
>"You the only one who made it?" "Not the only one."

I think a lot could be done with that. Maybe in a different Thing story, all the characters are assimilated before the climax, and the twist ending is the Thing just realizing it's already won and it can just drop the act, and all the remaining characters you thought were fighting for their survival were just playing out an act.

>>82923576
>twist ending is the Thing just realizing it's already won and it can just drop the act, and all the remaining characters you thought were fighting for their survival were just playing out an act.
I don't think this is inherently terrible but that means it was all a joke right?

>>82922253
The rec room scene was literally the only good one

>>82922151
>It can't create, just makes copies.

Of course it can create.

It turned a head into a spider and full bodies into other monstrosities.

Not infeasible to say it couldn't create wings if it wanted to.

>>82923576
> its a shitty "whad if da things didn't even kno they were things?" episode
Im glad carpenter btfo you faggots

>>82922185
It's not Jack Frost.

>>82921538

Now this really makes me want to play a good homebrew The Thing TTRPG.

>>82924009
No, I mean that by the end of the movie, the remaining "survivors" are just Things pretending to fight for survival to fit in with their surroundings, as they assumed the rest of the survivors were legitimate. Basically the imitations keep up their act because they fool each other.

The ending wouldn't be the Thing assimilating the last person, it would be the Things realizing the last person was assimilated 15 minutes ago and it already won. And then all the protagonists you were rooting for just go slack as they merge back into one whole. In a sense, even the movie itself would be an imitation of a premise that fooled the viewer.

>>82924157
Carpenter just said one of the men was a Thing on his twitter. I don't think he said that the other one wasn't.

>>82924191
Shut up

>>82922926
John Carpenter purposefully did not use one of the main actors' in the shadow scene so you can't tell who was the first infected.

>>82924231
Well either it way it was Palmer who sabotaged the blood, no matter when he was infected. Hes the only one absent beforehand.

>>82924202
Not about whether in the end one was or not, if one was it would know. The things also know other things so there wouldnt be any pretence or human interaction at the end if they both were.

Also it's literally canon that neither were things so the point is mute.

>>82924204
Don't be a cunt.

>>82924252
You can also notice Windows noping the fuck out when they find the sabotaged blood because he knows he fucked up by dropping the keys near the corpse.

>>82924297
> noping
You have to go back

>>82924315
You have to stop being a faggot who takes every chance to try and parrot muh reddit bogeyman

>>82924263
It's debatable if its canon or not.
Sure, the game says they were both human, and Carpenter called that canon. But then on his twitter, Carpenter said it was canon at least one was a Thing.

Really, I think the movie should just be taken as its own thing, and there isn't a canon answer. The genius of the last scene is that it can be taken in any way. Are they both humans recognizing the futility of their distrust and sharing a drink as they prepare for death? Is Childs a thing and MacReady trying to prod to see if he has one last job to do? Is MacReady the last Thing, chuckling as Childs drinks the whiskey because he just infected the last threat? Or are they both the Thing basically having a conversation with itself about what it should do next?

The lines are carefully constructed to support any of the four scenarios, because its supposed to make you paranoid and unsure.

>>82924297
I've always wondered why Garry didn't point that out. He would have done anything to shift the blame, but he never points out that he gave keys to Windows.

>>82924191
there's an overpriced board game coming out in November

>>82924202

I like that idea but I think it would be funnier if the things end up some how killing each other because they didn't know if they were fighting an imitation or a real human.

>>82921662
>>82921830

if you watch the directors commentary carpenter states that that there was no consideration given to the visible breath, it's irrelevant.

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>>82921838
>Pajeet makes massive gains in the fields of aerospace technology

We know The Thing can live in a variety of environments, but as as aggressive as it is, both physiologically and tactically, do we know well it can compete with some of EARTH'S most virulent strains of bacteria? What if it goes int he ocean and some stray dinoflagellate just fucks it all up because it doesn't know how to invade such a porous, crystalline shell? For that matter, do we have Word-of-God as to whether it can also assimilate organisms of botanical origin, including plankton and algae?

>>82922252
Costs calories, my nigga

Very good theme and setting for the movie, shit plot. Very badly written and makes no sense at some points

>>82922293
>The real question is why didn't it go back to its original ship.

It was probably broken or something.

>>82922674
I guess, but if the thing was smart enough to pilot and build a space ship, you would think it would be smart enough to figure out that murdering a group of sentient creatures with weapons when you're outnumbered is a bad survival strat. But if this guy's >>82923392
theory is true, then never mind

>>82924315
bree sure "noping" originated on 4chan; especially on /x/ and /k/ "innawoods" threads. Usually when people would tell spooky stories and just generally be very gay with each other.

>>82921583
People who debate if Childs was a Thing or not are completely missing the point. It's demonstrated at the beginning that Macready is more than willing to break to rules to win.

It literally didn't matter if Childs was a Thing. Macready was going to kill him anyway to be sure.

>>82924988
Hooolyyyyy shiiiiiiiit. Is this Word-of-God or just your speculation? Because I haven't heard this theory yet before, but iss pree guh.

Kind of a side theory about Norris. I think he may have been been the victim of sabotaged food instead of a straight up take over. I've always suspected the line Fuchs says to Mac about everyone cooking their own food and only eating out of cans was foreshadowing in some version of the script for a reveal that was abandoned.

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>>82921838

>poops in your path

hehe nothing personal kid

>>82925709

Not him, but I think it's something to do with Mac losing at chess in the beginning and pouring drink all over the computer. Supposedly it shows him willing to cheat at the game and not play the rules, think I heard about it on a Rob Ager vid a while back.

Not him though

>>82921766

Nope, we know The Thing becomes inactive when frozen so you could argue that it was too cold to make a proper effort towards killing Mac.

Also, iirc Mac had a flamethrower pointed at the thing right at the end, so all he would have to do was pull the trigger and set it alight. Logically, it's better for the thing to wait for discovery when frozen and be bought back to society/repeat the events of the movie than even risk that Mac was willing to use the flamethrower

>>82927585
More so curious about whether he was really willing to kill Childs just to be 100% safe, even if he might've been human.

Do you really think that's what he might've done? Really changes the movie for me when it's put into that perspective. Unironically really makes me think.

Reminder The Thing threads have become cancer:

>le kerozine
>le breath
>le earring
>le coat
>le it doesn't matter xD
>le Carpenter said ________ is canon
>le prequel

Get fucked.

>>82927956
If he was Human, they were both going to die anyway. He had no particular reason not to.

Is it just me or are older films kind of hard to follow?

The Thing, Bladerunner, Alien even Star Wars. Sometimes it takes a few watches to catch everything going on.

>>82921952
MEW saved it.

>>82921469
The Thing. I don't think it would be very hard for some of the cells in the Thing's blood to get into one of the other samples and then assimilate that as well, making the test pointless.

>>82921662
>The Thing can't replicate non-organic material
Which doesn't make any goddamn sense. What, did it chew extra carefully around its victim's clothes?

>>82923346
I have no idea where you could even set a sequel besides the Antarctic again because literally any other place on Earth will have plenty of stuff for the Thing to assimilate and therefore win before the movie even starts.

>>82921838
Absolutely not. Given enough time to study it in a controlled environment we could genetically engineer cell structure and an immune system capable of dealing with it.

Its cells just act like really advanced protozoa, using phagocytosis to consume and then mimic other cells.

A sufficiently advanced race would have no problem adapting to the threat completely.

>>82921538
Drawing maps for location settings is autistic now? I love it when people do it. It's super comfy.

I myself even mapped out the Mystery Shack from Gravity Falls when it first came out.

>>82923346
I would just adapt the videogame but change some things around.

I know you said no sequel, but fuck you.

>>82921908

I don't think it's horrible but it's just a missed opportunity in general, especially spx wise after you see all the practical work they scraped.

>>82922063
Would watch

>>82921469
Would a nuke be able to kill The Thing

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HOLY SHIT I SAW THIS FOR THE FIST TIME EVER LAST NIGHT and I'm still fucking high on how awesome it was. CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE ENDING???!!!!

>>82931046
You can kill it with a flamethrower, dumbass.

>>82931099
I'm talking about killing it permanently

If you kill it with a flamethrower it can still survive in blood or whatever else remains of the host

>>82931086
OMG! Childs was a Thing! YAAAASSSSSSS!!

>>82931099
No you can't. The movie fucking makes it clear it only ever goes into dormancy when exposed to extreme heat or cold. In case you haven't figured it out, the Norwegian Thing is active in the movie. Dumbass.

>>82931147
>>82931706
Just torch it longer. Put the remains in an oven, or something.

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Quick question from one faggot to another:
I can gank this movie off of someone else's Google Drive. But what are the chances of getting caught? Taking something illegal straight from Google seems retarded, but IDK whether or not you can actually get into trouble for it. Thanks.

>>82931867
You'll be fine
Do you think Google manually searches everybody's drive to make sure they aren't hiding illegal shit?

>>82932514
No but might they track when someone's d/l shit they shouldn't be?