>"God's not even real." fucking DROPPED

>>82881871
But he isn't.

>Sounds to me like Anthony Jr. may have stumbled onto existentialism.
>Fuckin' internet.

*BBBBBUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRPPPPP*

>>82881871
Whenever I watch the sopranos I have to tune out AJ scenes because they remind me too much of myself. That episode where he tries to kill junior got me crying like a little finook

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>>82881871
You need to take the Rust pill, OP.

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WATCH IT /tv/
Gender is a spectrum, ya got that?

>>82881871

This kid sucked. Nothing even remotely redeeming in 80 episodes.

This show didn't have a lot of flaws. AJ Soprano was one of them.

>>82881920
kek
>universe exists
>life exists
>even in simulated-verse
>Muh nihilism though!
Edgy

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UNCLE PHILLY

>>82881871
Tony gets mad because deep down he doesn't believe in God either and it bothers him

>>82888180
What does nihilism have to do with not believing in magic and wizards invented by sand nuggets? Are you retarded?

>>82888212
Oh you're just mad about christianity?
Hello 16 year old.

>>82888180
BTFO will atheists ever recover?

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>mfw someone disrespects the pizza parlour

now I crave watching TS agfain

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You earned this one op.

>>82888421
you don't watch it every year?

>>82888449
LOL
How will OP ever recover?

>>82882999
I saw that ep yesterday, for the first time. It hit me right in the feels.

>>82888244
Where are you getting that from? What does not believing in magic have to do with nihilism? How are the 2 related? Again, are you retarded?

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Quasimodo predicted all of this you know

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I lqunched the pilot

>>82888511
>Mad atheist about to go take his aggression out on his mom for not making enough chicken tendies

>>82888511
look, mate, I'm atheist, but referring to religion as 'magic & wizards invented by sand nuggets' just makes you come off as an insufferable cunt.

>>82888511
Time to do your homework, son.
Leave the spiritual/ philosophy talk for those whose balls have dropped.

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>>82888180
Yes, I think this

>>82888594
you shouldn't be such a pussy, religious beliefs dont deserve respect only mockery

Anyone else rewatching this for the 2nd/3rd/4th/5th etc time? What little touches and subtle details are you noticing? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjOzXC51z44

Just noticed the "malignant cunt" that Paulie later murders is wearing a life alert beeper, because in that scene her life is in mortal danger

>>82888594
fuck off mudslime

>>82888180
wtf I love Christianity now

>>82888826
>religious beliefs dont deserve respect only mockery

What's the matter? Parents made you go to church this weekend? Or maybe Grandma said "God bless you"?

>>82889005
no i don't respect stupid beliefs. you do the same you just don't consider religion to be a stupid belief

>>82888829
Davey Scatino crying in the tent in his store after the bust out cuts directly to a gun firing in the air at AJ's swim meet, hinting at his suicidal thoughts

>>82881871

It should probably be noted that almost every single major figure in the atheist movement is Jewish. You could make a compelling argument that atheism is specifically being pushed by Jews in today's society, and they seem to largely be targeting western Christians and only them.

For example, Sam Harris, Chapman Cohen, David Silverman, Michael Newdow, Gregory Epstein, Sherman Wine, Bill Maher, Eric Kaufmann, and of course, Richard Dawkins's mother has a Jewish surname and was stated to have lived in the only Jewish suburb of the city she grew up in. But he hasn't explicitly named her religion.

But that's only a tiny part of the list. We could discuss the Jewish atheists who aren't pushing atheism so much as atheism-enabling political views like Marxism. For example Soklonikov, Trotsky, Deutscher, Lenin, Uritsky, Kamenev, Zinoviev and Sverdlov.

And what about atheist Jewish public entertainers that constantly run down Christianity? We can go ahead and recycle Bill Maher here and also include Jon Leibowitz, Stephen Fry, Woody Allen, Rob Reiner, Daniel Radcliffe, Larry David, David Silverman, and... I'm sure I'm close to the post cap, so rather than just name the rest of Hollywood, you get the point.

PURE COINCIDENCE though.

>>82888829
check out some analysis. avclub or sopranosautopsy

>>82889108

>he thinks believing the ageism fairy magically exploding nothing into everything, for no reason, and having it magically form sentient life isn't a stupid belief

Back to Plebbit with you.

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>>82889134
Jews have the highest average IQ of any group. Most people are jealous of Jews.

>>82889108
>you do the same you just don't consider religion to be a stupid belief

On the contrary, I respect all beliefs, even when I think they are wrong (atheism, for example).
I just don't like assholes.

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>>82881871
Reminder that 4chan is a Christian board.
Amen

>>82889160
Don't forget that life, by very nature, must fight against entropy to continue existing, something which all other systems inevitably succumb to. In contrast, life in the last few billion years has not only fended of entropy but become MORE complex.

>>82889213
*when you leave out non-ethnic jews
yes mostly caucasian jews have the highest IQ...
Yet whites have to combined with most arabs and mexicans and other mutt types.

>>82889221
>On the contrary, I respect all beliefs
So if someone has the belief that killing dolphins for sport is acceptable you respect that?
What if someone thinks the earth is round? Do you respect that?

>>82889213

Think you'll find that's Anglicans actually, Schlomo.

>>82889239
>>82889247
>>82889256
kill yourselves

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>>82889213

Forgot my pic

Kikes and fedoras on suicide watch.

>>82889256
>So if someone has the belief that killing dolphins for sport is acceptable you respect that?

As long as he doesn't act on it, it's fine.

>What if someone thinks the earth is round? Do you respect that?

I think you mean flat, and yes, I respect that even if it's a silly idea.

>>82889312
i thought the average white iq was 100

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>>82889292

Not an argument

>>82889337

The average, yes. This splits particular groups. If you take the average of all those groups you would get 100.

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>>82881871
>Mfw I don't believe in God so that makes me way smarter than you Christ cucks
Lol stay mad brainlets

>>82889333
yea i meant to say not round. Beliefs inform peoples actions and how they view the world if somoene has the idea the earth if flat it affects many things in their life. They don't trust mainstream science and could make poor decisions that affect them and society as a whole if enough people believe in it. Say for example if 40% of people thought the earth was flat they might be less inclined to vote for someone who was claiming the earth was round. It's in society's best interest to try and convince people to hold the least amount of stupid beliefs.

>>82888180
STUFF EXISTS THEREFORE MY VERY SPECIFIC IDEAL OF A CREATOR MUST HAVE MADE IT

>>82889513
You do realize shifting the argument from whether or not God exists to His exact nature is a giant concession on a skeptics part?

>>82889438
I agree with your point, but giving a society leeway to suppress a belief is the first step to policing thoughts.

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>>82881920

>>82889584
No it isn't, because the creator doesn't need to be a god.
>God
>His
Oh wait, you're a Christfag. Sorry for expecting logic.

>>82881871

> Universe is causal
> Matter is contingent
> ... the material causal universe was therefore made in and of itself

atheists are retarded

>>82889357
>the average is clearly shown as 106 at the bottom

>>82889513

The historical evidence for the resurrection:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0iDNLxmWVM


Proof for the resurrection of Jesus:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0tyVdnIU9A
The first 30 minutes is what's important from this one, the rest is questions and answers.


Ex-atheist scientist tells his story of becoming Christian after realizing that the story of creation in Genesis actually makes the most sense and gets a lot of things right compared to other religious books:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsbj7EN1Uzs


Cold case detective, former atheist analyzed the gospels using his skills and came to the conclusion that Christianity is the true religion and what is written in the New Testament is real.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQmodO2quW0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiYQzOypD9o
The videos are long, but they basically come down to this:
1. The chain of custody is sound, the story doesn't change over time.
2. There was stuff in the Bible that was later confirmed by archeology(places, people, etc.)
3. There are even non-believers' accounts of some stuff Jesus did, just from them you can know a lot about Jesus if you piece it all together.
4. The differences between gospels aren't a bad sign, because witnesses rarely agree on stuff. If every eyewitness would say the same thing, it would be very fishy and would mean they probably talked to each other at one point.
5. The apostles died without getting rich, getting a girlfriend or getting power, they all died horribly. There was no point in spreading Christianity if they didn't believe in it. Why would they risk their life if it wasn't true? Why would they risk their life if it was all forged? Why would Paul try to join this new small church?
Also the only accounts of Romans getting Christians to change their faith was after the 1st century. No account of eyewitnesses ever changing their story.

>>82889635
Nice semantical argument. Despite your hang us with the terminology, the thing that exists above then material system, and causing its creation, would be God, by definition, regardless of its nature.

>>82889603
I was only advocating for ridicule of certain aspects of beliefs in popular culture or by individuals . I think most people in society agree people should be able to claim the earth is flat

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>>82889670
Turn it inside out bro!

>>82889670
filthy causals

this always baffles me with 2bh

in germany the younger age groups will openly say stuff like the bible other religions etc. is bullshit even if they don't know the opinions of others, because they most likely share it anyway
religion barely comes up because 80-90% don't believe in it anyway and the rest may have some vague idea of a higher being or destiny or some shit, only very few people actually believe strongly

>>82889947
Americans

>>82889947

> Germans dont believe God

Thats because they are filthy Germans

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>>82885415
>He doesn't get the point

>>82888826
>you shouldn't be such a pussy, religious beliefs dont deserve respect only mockery

Listen mate, I consider myself an atheist too, but that's a fucking shitty way to go about it. Spend less time shopping for fedoras and more time actually interacting with people

>>82888594
Christianity literally is about magic and sky wizards invented by sand niggers you fucking retard. Give me 1 reason why believing in the easter bunny is less sensible than believing in magic jesus

>>82889750
Ridiculing is fine and within your rights to do so, but there is a point when people find your constant act of ridiculing someone else quite obnoxious.
Case in point, atheists made fun of religious people constantly for years and now no-one takes them (and their plight to rid the world of theists) seriously.

>>82889947
Shit man, I guess you talked to every man, woman and child in Germany, no?

>>82889720
Yes you believe in magic like a 9 year old why do you keep telling us?

>>82890163
His friends rushed headlong into martydom.

>>82889720
This.
One could easily argue that God is the universe.
Atheists brains are breaking apart I can tell just from reading some of the comments in this thread.

>>82890174
Belief in an afterlife is an extremely harmful to society

>>82890174
22% of the US is non religious, the 2nd highest affiliation after protestants. And that number had been growing steadily in the west for decades, with nothing to suggest a regression to ancient myths and fairy tales by tribal sandcoons. Youre dumb as fuck my man

>>82890239
Are you trying to start an argument with him or do you not realize how irrelevant that is?

>>82888180
> There are things therefore magic is real.

>>82890252
Non religious does not mean they are not theists

>>82890220
>One could easily argue that God is the universe.

Matter is dependant on God.

If God is the force of sheer creation, then a universe which is an extension of him would not be defined by death and decay.

>>82890273
Atheist resorts to using Strawman.
>>82890195
Atheist resorts to adhom
>>82890239
Atheist resorts to non-sequitur.


Pathetic.

>>82890113
They should be mocked most of them are nonsensical and contradictory just like any other belief with the same properties.

>>82889947
this is the case for every first world nation outside of the us

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>>82889947
>>82890003
>>82890339

>>82890239
>Belief in an afterlife is an extremely harmful to society

How so? Are you a communist by any chance?

>>82890252
You'd be surprised to learn that the world outside the US and a part of Europe is steadily becoming religious.
A completely atheist world is literally a pipe dream.

>>82890163
well historically jesus actually existed which makes him more real than the easter bunny, the magic part seems unlikely though

>>82890174
>Shit man, I guess you talked to every man, woman and child in Germany, no?
it's my observation but if you don't believe me


>Twenty years ago 70% of the over 45 year old germans believed it god, but only 33% of the 16-24 year old age group
t. Kunstmann, Joachim. 2010. Rückkehr der Religion. Glaube, Gott und Kirche neu verstehen. Gütersloh: Gütersloher Verlagshaus.


about eastern germany, they are more atheist than the west
>Eastern Germany is perhaps the least religious region in the world.[92] [93] Atheism is embraced by young and old, though more so by younger Germans.[94] One study in September 2012 was unable to find a single person under 28 who believed in a god.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheism

>>82889134
Atheists don't like to review where their lack of spirituality comes from. The Jews could literally be dancing in front of them laughing and pointing fingers while mocking them for having been so easily misled and brainwashed, but so deep is the atheist's belief in his own intellect he'd think that the Jews meant literally every other atheist in the world and that he alone came to his godless epiphany by virtue of his intellect and no social design.

>>82890388
this guy sounds like a projecting cunt
I can make similar unfounded statements about religious people, that doesn't make them true though

4chan is the last place I expected to find religious people.
Not saying it's good or bad, just surprising.

>>82890550
Newfag, there is literally at least one thread a day that becomes ground zero for crusaders vs fedoras

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>>82888449
>disliking atheists makes you a nazi

>>82890550
they are mostly burgers or from southern europe/america

>>82890499

You only have to look at Europe after the war to see that this is true. People lost faith in all insititutions and therefore allowed their countries to degenerate in the pursuit of their own selfish desires.

>>82890589
Atheists are just pissed the Nazi's genocide gets all the attention. How many people do you have to kill to get a little consideration?

>>82890388
>Only the godless degenerates do drugs!
>puffs cigarette.

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>come to sopranos thread for the memes
>its a religious debate

>>82890466
Not to say these demographics are wrong, but I always take them with a grain of salt.
But you are living in Germany, so you know a bit better, I admit.

>Eastern Germany is perhaps the least religious region in the world.[92] [93] Atheism is embraced by young and old, though more so by younger Germans.[94] One study in September 2012 was unable to find a single person under 28 who believed in a god.

You mean people who stayed under soviet rule and adapted soviet ideals do not believe in God?

>>82890638
>People lost faith in all insititutions and therefore allowed their countries to degenerate in the pursuit of their own selfish desires.
just another unfounded babble and subjective perception

>>82889292
Not a very Christian thing to say. It's almost as if you cherry pick which rules to follow.

>>82890738
Are you honestly arguing there hasn't been a shift from duty to ones culture to rampant individualism in the last half century?

>>82890726
communism certainly played a big part, but in the west it's not THAT different

>>82881920
yes I am

>>82890818
Not him but I always find this canned response hilarious. Real easy not being a hypocrite when you refuse to ascribe to any moral system, eh bud?

Atheifags are about as retarded as religiousfags.
The only rational position is Deism. There are a number of signs which point to a creator, but it's supremely arrogant to believe that we could possibly fathom the nature of this creator.
I still don't know which is more annoying; atheists are fucking obnoxious but christfaggot arrogance really pisses me off

>>82890829
no, but atheism isn't the cause of this

>duty to ones culture
I'd rather describe it as nationalism

>>82890818
>haha fucking christians, always cherry picking!
>now where are my Christmas gifts? I still get to not work during the Easter holidays, no?

>>82890925
>There are a number of signs which point to a creator,
that being?

>>82890589
>implying /pol/ are real nazis/skinheads
>implying /pol/ isn't contrarian on many popular things, including ironically defending religion

/pol/ are what you get when you have plebbit immigrants (who are sick of faking personas and being restricted in what to say) and contrarian teenagers (who also can't into Poe's Law) come together to revel in a hugbox.

>>82890960
culture/customs != religious belief

>now where are my Christmas gifts?
aren't you forgetting that the atheists give gifts as well

>>82890969
Stamp of the creator, first cause, the extreme complexity of the universe from 'nothing'

>>82890698
>Not getting the popcorn and laughing at all the cringe fedoras

>>82881920
>All of this proof.

>>82891023
in other words religion is a placeholder until we know how it works

>>82890919
you don't have to be a Christian to realize that "kill yourself" is a dick thing to say yoy retard.

>>82889239
I had no idea entropy had stopped, I guess I have to go to church now. Retard.

>>82881920
Wrong board.

Reddit is over yonder soon.

>>82890933

Atheism isnt the cause but it is an effect.

Nationalism isnt a bad word. Duty to ones nation is imperative to its survival.

>>82891017
Why do you take part in customs you clearly don't believe in? Also, these customs stem from a backwards culture you hate.

>aren't you forgetting that the atheists give gifts as well
That's because the Coca-Cola ads tell them to.

>>82891011
>Ironically defending religion.
>Ironically.

Boy, you have a lot to learn.

>>82890925
Deism is wrong. Omniscience requires God to be aware of all things. The fact that all things inevitably find their source in Him means, again, He would be aware of any action that resulted in their creation .

>we are too small for God to be concerned

God's omnipotence prevents Him from having his attention depleted. It's literally infinite, and thus He can get lost in the minutiae, his faculties and concern are inherently inexuasable. This it is not arrogant to assume that God cares for us, instead it is insulting to His allpowerful nature to think He lacks the ability to.

>>82891066
No, religion is fucking garbage. Again, the only rational position is to accept there is some kind of creator of the universe, i.e. "God". To believe it is the Abrahamic God or any other Earthling invention is pants-on-head retarded

>>82890470
Let me get this straight: the JOOS are knowingly tricking people into becoming atheist. Nevermind that atheism rises as IQ does, nevermind that using religion is a good means of controlling people, nevermind that such a conspiracy would require a shitload of people and something would give eventually. The fucking hoops you people have to go through just to justify your (ironic) beliefs. Fucking gen z faggots piss me off.

>>82891145
Your assumption that the creator of the universe must be omniscient or omnipotent is Abrahamic nonsense. You have absolutely no way of knowing that, because you have absolutely no way of knowing anything about the creator. We can't assume that the creator is omnipotent because it was able to start off the creation of the universe. And it's absolutely baseless nonsense to believe - just because - that the creator is omniscient.

>>82891207
Anon, show on the doll where /pol/ touched you.

>>82891096
That's the point of the post, the universe has exited its dynamic phase, stellar production is slowing, systems are breaking into simpler components and overall things are getting greyer and more homogenous. Life, in contrast, had only gotten more complex in the last billion years, and is adding complexity to its systems, opposed to eroding them. This is a paradox.

>>82891135
What's mainstream now, religion or atheism? What's the major age group on 4chan? Put 2 and 2 together you retard. Teenagers are contrarian by default. Add in plebbitor immigrants and you see how shit is.

>>82891011
>Poe's Law
pseud detected

>>82891257
>a billion years is a long time in the scope of the universe
Also confirmed for not fucking understanding entropy. Christfags truly are insufferable

>>82891132
>Why do you take part in customs you clearly don't believe in?
why not, it's tradition just like any other thing someone could come up with

>That's because the Coca-Cola ads tell them to.
now that's just bullshit and you know it
plus, if someone gives me a gift I'm obliged to return the favor, that's just called being a decent human being

>>82891280
It is you fool, the universe is under 14 billion years old.

>>82891260
>i-i-it's da contrarian teenagerz!!!

Atheists think of the strangest boogeymen.

>>82891332
>why not, it's tradition just like any other thing someone could come up with
So what's the problem with religion, again?

>now that's just bullshit and you know it
Not really. Atheists are materialistic, everyone knows that.

>plus, if someone gives me a gift I'm obliged to return the favor, that's just called being a decent human being
I don't want you to give me gifts out of obligation or as repayment, I want you to give them to me because you love me.

>>82891257
Stars had only the most basic elements in the beginning to work with, and over time have seeded the galaxy/universe with heavier elements as they died. This means 2 things: life could use these heavier/complex elements, and that complexity arises over time, no creator required. Stars aren't gods or sentient, yet made complex elements. Life itself requires competition and different iterations in order to survive, evolution is part of this. The less-complex being gets supplanted by complex organisms/life.

Also, if anything, a "creator" doesn't even need to be present or even sentient. Read up on The Last Question, a version of multivac reverts entropy and creates the Big Bang. The idea that a creator knowingly did things, loves you and cares for humanity is bullshit. A god would be completely alien to us, and we would have proof if a being of such power was actively looking out for us.

>>82891207
Let's say, hypothetically that there is a conspiracy, though the word itself is purely a buzzword to discredit it. Let's say it got out. Let's say there's tangible evidence of it, and mountains of accumulated data. Wouldn't you still dismiss it out of hand as a conspiracy? Are you even the least bit prepared to admit that you were a dupe and that you're neither A- as intelligent as you thought you were, and B- were a pawn of people who are smarter and thought so little of you that they used you so effortlessly? Can your ego even begin to accept that as a possibility?

Atheists misrepresent or degenerate what God is in order to dismiss anyone who believes in him.

They are unwilling to think or engage in anything beyond themselves and their own worldview. They are purely driven by the pusuit of self and find it hard to empathise with others.

They are basically autists.

>>82890068
>the point
What about it?

>>82891595
>Atheists misrepresent or degenerate what God is in order to dismiss anyone who believes in him.
So do religiousfags. You guys are equally autistic for stating that you can ever know the nature of the creator. Its nature is incomprehensible to us.

>>82891423
>So what's the problem with religion, again?
it doesn't make sense, but it's part of our history

>Not really. Atheists are materialistic, everyone knows that.
implying religious people aren't
implying churches don't have a history of following materialistic pursuits and power

>I don't want you to give me gifts out of obligation or as repayment, I want you to give them to me because you love me.
this isn't mutually exclusive you know

other than that it was about why these customs keep going
first, why would you even replace them and with what? they are tradition and part of a cultural identity and can be fun
culture is nothing but doing things because they always have been done
second, it's a payment/repayment loop between individuals

>>82890470
This is really true. Even with "redpilled" atheists who acknowledge the existence of cultural Marxism and the net negative that atheism represents in the western world, they all still feel like their being atheists is somehow separate from it. Sure, the majority of atheists are just kow-towing to what the Jewish ran media and liberal school systems feed them in their formative years, but not the redpilled atheist. No, he was above being influenced by all of that, HE became an atheist purely out of his own enlightened inspiration. If anything, his atheism happened DESPITE the fact that people were trying to brainwash him into atheism.

AJ was literally me as a teenager, how did the writers create such an accurate 00's kid?

>>82891654
forgot one thing, they are an occasion for social bonding

>>82891691
Christianity is a cuck religion now that has been prostrating itself for the international Jewry for the past 70 years

>>82891643
Not if you believe that said nature was expressed, either in the natural tendency for religious expression in humans , or more literally in a prophet. Deism always strikes me as strange in the sense that it concedes a God, yet refuses to view Him as concerned with being revelatory. Yet the fact that His existence is known to us, which by deist understanding would be mere chance, is a giant argument for contrary view. If God is unconcerned with our worship, then by what conceivable odds have we become aware of His presence? If Our attention isntb desired , then why are we predisposed to it?

>>82891757
Everyone prostrates themselves before the Jews, they control western civilization. The only difference is in how much. Those damned Christians just won't fling aside their faith, and adhere to traditionalist and largely conservative lifestyles, holding out fast against the mainstay of Jewry, even if they support Israel (in as much as they don't support Palestine or the rest of the Muslims). They're not quite on the good goy level that atheists have achieved. Note that the majority of the atheist demographic are far left progressives who fill BLM rallies, gender studies classrooms and fall on some area in the LGBT+ spectrum. Religion is the final vanguard to pure degeneracy.

>>82891023
The complexity of the universe does not point towards there being a creator dipshit. In fact no matter how statistically unlikely it is for the universe to exist the way it does, it's inevitable for it to do so. Because if it didn't we wouldn't be there to observe it. The complexity of the universe is a prerequisite for us to observe it at all.

>>82881871
Friendly reminder that only underage b& still believe in god.

>>82890470
>epiphany
lmao kid yourself faggot. There's no "epiphany" required to become an atheist, the only thing is takes is for someone to not be brainwashed like you are. Babies and animals are atheist and it has nothing to do with jewish plots, it's the natural state of any living creature.

>>82891937
>Babies and animals are atheists
Couldn't agree more

>>82891832
Here's a nice and simple explanation for you fucking idiots, read it through nice and slow to make sure you understand:
NOT
EVERYONE
IS
AMERICAN

>>82891757
your poor struggle
===>pol

why can't you have one simple discussions without some retards bringing up some jewish conspiracy
sometimes I can't even tell anymore what of it is memes and what literal retardation

>>82892038
jews are very successful in a lot of aspects of life, people are jealous

>>82892038
Americans are so deluded they think that everyone in the world who doesn't get brainwashed like they do must themselves have been brainwashed by jewish conspiracies. Apparently everyone is born Christian or Muslim or whatever other religion depending on their geographical place of birth, and it takes some kind of special effort to make someone into an atheist. All this is despite the fact that the US is extremely Christian whilst also being literally the biggest puppet of the jews ever in history.

>>82892142
Meh, Pakistanis and Koreans are disproportionately successful as well, but no one cares, mostly because they don't make their living undermining Christian culture and values, or by just general shiestering in banking or the market

>>82891983
Oh, you poor simple fool. Yes you are. You use American products, you consume American media. Your culture and your identities are just American seen through whatever weak lens remains on whatever shade of a cultural identity you have left. The very fact that you're HERE of all places just cements that.

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>>82892258
You speak my country's language you fucking cuck. Learn your place.

>>82891794
>Not if you believe that said nature was expressed, either in the natural tendency for religious expression in humans , or more literally in a prophet.
But those things are all retarded. Humans have a natural need for understanding, and so have invented countless deities and creation myths to satisfy that need. Doesn't make any of them remotely correct, and again, it's pure arrogance to believe that they are. As for prophets - don't make me laugh. There have been hundreds of thousands of prophets throughout history, some were just a little more popular than others.

>Deism always strikes me as strange in the sense that it concedes a God, yet refuses to view Him as concerned with being revelatory.
Because there's absolutely no reason that believe it is revelatory in nature. Because there's absolutely no way to divine its nature.

>Yet the fact that His existence is known to us, which by deist understanding would be mere chance
Confirmed for not understanding the rationale behind Deism in the first place. Deists like myself take a rationalist position and deduce through our faculty of reason that a creator of some sort must have existed. Our faculty of reason doesn't give us any insight into how that creator operates or its nature. You need to read Descartes.

>If God is unconcerned with our worship, then by what conceivable odds have we become aware of His presence?
Again, you need to read some rationalist literature if you want to understand the arguments.

>If Our attention isntb desired , then why are we predisposed to it?
Already answered this. In addition, Humans want to believe they are favoured and special and have a strong individualist streak. But believing in something doesn't make it true.

>>82892319
How does it feel to know your country used to rule the majority of the known world, but isn't even a top twenty player anymore?

>>82891207

Anglicans have the highest IQ

>>82889312

>>82891643

Atheism is the fastest shrinking religion in the world. Atheism is in decline worldwide, with the number of atheists falling from 4.5% of the world's population in 1970 to 2.0% in 2010 and projected to drop to 1.8% by 2020,

Real surveys and statistics say atheism is on the decline worldwide. Sorry atheists but atheism is not on the rise nor is it winning. It's still the minority and a declining one at that.

The Pew Research Center's statistics show that atheism is expected to continue to decline all the way into 2050 with a continued growth of religion. Other research also shows a huge surge in growth for Christianity in China which is currently the world's most "atheist" nation because of the atheist communist government suppressing religion, the research suggests that China will soon become the world's most Christian nation within 15 years.

This is simply history repeating itself: Christianity prospered in Rome back in the ancient era when it was suppressed and it still grew in the militant atheist soviet Russia when it was suppressed there only a century ago with the majority of Russians today now also identifying as Christian. Just goes to show that atheist suppression of religion still doesn't stop religion.

Sources for the legion of whiny /Redditor/ fedoras that will no doubt show up it this thread:

http://www.pewforum.org/2015/04/02/religious-projections-2010-2050/
http://www.pewforum.org/2012/12/18/global-religious-landscape-unaffiliated/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10776023/China-on-course-to-become-worlds-most-Christian-nation-within-15-years.html
http://masterrussian.com/russia/facts.htm

>>82889438

Only atheists think in terms of science vs religion. Think of it this way, science is the measure and study of the physical using observation and experimentation. By it's very nature it cannot presume to offer any substantial view on the metaphysical. You cannot materially quantify the immaterial. It's like looking through a microscope and trying to find an atom of justice or a molecule of mercy.

I hope you see why you're being fallacious.

>>82881920
God is a concept, like math, so of course it exists, making you believe that god is a giant man in the sky with superpowers is the biggest psyop ever because it's so obviously bullshit