Is it true Netflix pays people to shill their shows here?

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>let's shill on 4chan, they seem the type to pay for their entertainment!

>>82857410
Isn't that true for any social media platform though? A huge chunk of normiehood just stream if they can't figure out how to torrent. Enough people here aren't poorfag that'll actually pay for their shows.

I didn't used to think so, but now I'm suspicious.

>mention that Netflix's new "rating" system is not actually a rating system
>immediately met with damage control responses that insist it's a real rating system

>>82857487
lol really I only saw people making fun of it

>>82857487
There also always seems to be a huge spike in positive discussion regarding their shows during their running cycle, the dies off almost immediately after the show airs

Take Stranger Things. Shit went from fail generals to only being mentioned occasionally in passing. Meanwhile shows like Dr. Who and GoT still retain their following.

Also the Witcher thread that's up right now. By /tv/ board culture, it should be flooded with memers yelling about how /v/ the thread is. Yet instead it's filled with anons talking about how hyped they are.

>>82857357
I wish. It would be so easy to do considering how much great content is on their platform. It seems like every day they're adding new, exciting Netflix Originals.

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>>82857410

>>82857663
See
>>82857459

>>82857586
shill

>>82857357
Yeah and they are terrible.
They are probably losing subscribers because of them.

>>82857621
if you ever look at the doctor who threads it's just like 5 lamers who samefag each thread to 300 posts

Pretty fucking cringe

>>82857621
it's full of people saying it will probably be filled with niggers and cucks saying thats a good thing.

>>82857701
I hate generals but at least whofags stay in their fucking shit thread.

>>82857357
idk about Netflix but Rock and Marty for sure have marketing team that hires shills that shill their shitfest here non-stop.I found that last month when the shill campaign was going strong for about 2-3 weeks when there were 9-10 threads about rick and merty non-stop here.

>>82857357

Probably. Though some other company would handle it instead of Netflix and 4chan wouldn't be a priority.

>>82857760
I'm sure there are shills here but I think those rick and morty threads were just made by redditfags who can't handle some people not liking it.

>>82857760
Meh, I can chock that up to being a meme. /tv/ got super anti-rick & Morty after Reddit started to like it, so some anons started spamming threads as a joke. Same thing with Colbert

>>82857410
Shilling is just marketing.
Getting exposure and staying relevant so more people see it.
The people on 4chan aren't supposed to pay money.
They are supposed to discuss and create memes.

>>82857815
Colbert posting is an extensive ad campaign paid for by Jimmy Fallon.

>>82857839
Delete this before they find out you're telling us the insider secrets

>>82857357
Yes.

I mean, "naw, I doubt it. They pump out quality stuff. Why would they need paid shills?"

>>82857815
Except nobody likes Colbert

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>>82857357
Probably. If I like the show I'll shill it for free though.

>>82857357
probably, they abolished their rating system to accommodate a fat unfunny jewess ego

Of course they do.
Do you really think that stuff like the Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt or Master of None would ever get threads in /tv/ otherwise?

>>82857357
Nah, /tv/ actually doesn't know a thing. Unless there is conclusive proof of shills, I refuse to believe anything that /tv/ says.

>>82858163
You want proof? Look inside your PayPal account balance. After that post, you'll see it's up .01 cents.

>>82857621
>/v/
Witcher is a book you mong.

>>82857914
the first 4-5 years of the repor were great television..... i couldn't even last over a week with his new show.

I have been thinking about it, and is this really such a bad place to shill your show or movie? Facebook/twitter you need to have a massive following or friends to make a difference. And over at redit with their voting system, you are going to need to find shills that are good at starting a circle jerk, or it's kind of pointless and no one will see their comments. I don't think anyone is willing to pay online commenters enough to snag people with any kind of special skill like that. I certainly don't have it, nor do i want it.

4chan has quite a lot of traffic, and most people lurk and don't post. Nearly everyone posts anonymously so everyone's posts have the same weight, even shills. Even with the high amount of people here not paying for media, i think it's not the worst place to send people to hype your show.

I really doubt they get paid.

>>82857357
Lets think.
Is it more likely they pay people to shill here and think that will result in revenue, or that people just call each other shill to piss one another off for showing interest in a product? Hmmmm...

>>82857410
You underestimate the amount of lurkers here, the goal of advertisers is exposure to as many people as possible so it's not an unrealistic assumption that there are people who get paid to shill here.

>>82857357
Yes, AMA

>>82857357

Yes. All the "Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt" threads when it first debuted were shameless.

>>82857357
the idea in 2017 marketers bother hovering over threads in an anonymous board is probably low.

if they exist they probably dance between 20 different things constantly and come from a country where 2 dollars an hour goes much a longer way aka india.

>>82857357
Is it true that Hollywood pays you to shit on Netflix here?
Anything that forces Hollywood to compete is automatically good.

>>82857357
No

>>82857671
>>82857459
>that'll actually pay for their shows
no. youre just in the minority of retards who pay for something they could get for free

i'm pretty sure no one with any idea what they're doing would "shill" on /tv/ or any board that isn't /v/

Do you dumbfucks actually think there are paid shills posting on here?

How stupid can you get?

>>82859635
thats exactly what a paid shill would say..

>>82859660
Why would there be paid shills on /tv/ of all places? Literally no one would listen to them.

>>82859708
Any thread about a new movie or tv show

>>82859708
How fucking new are you? 4chan has been confirmed to be targeted by shills several times already.

>>82859660
There are like a few hundred to maybe a thousand autists on /tv/ at any given time. You really think someone trying to market a movie would pay people to post here when you can reach a million people on facebook for like $50?

>>82859728
Then that could make all of /tv/ a bunch of shills.

Why even discuss anything on here if that's the case?

>>82859746
By fucking who exactly? Can you prove this?

>>82859708
Anonymity makes it easier than any other social media, however its usually retards that shill their pet projects rather than giant corporations

>>82859807
By "anonymous". Ironically despite people here thinking they're smart critical thinkers, they will listen to and believe anything a random anon says as long as it fits with what they want to be true.

>>82859845
Again, can you prove this?

>"Okay so we have to shill our product on social media, we show people that other real and respectable people like our product. We advertise it regularly and to people who are easily influenced with much disposable income. Also those people should be normal and healthy."
>"Okay boss so what we have here is a website originally meant for discussing anime and everything japanese, there are no accounts, most people know how to pirate and do so regularly, are notorious underachievers and constantly shit on mainstream media and worldviews. Also nothing is permanent so we have to put in an effort for hours and hour in a thread then it will die and turn into nothingness. Also the userbase is highly autistic and does not approve of anything including themselves. Marketing anything there would require our whole budget and manpower and they wouldn't buy anything from us if we advertise there. Most would even buy less from us."
>"Okay sounds like a plan. I'm all in."

>>82859807
Marketers and astroturfers, you must be really new to the internet in general if you are this surprised that guerrilla marketing is a thing.
Reddit and Facebook are more attractive places to shill (and it happens A LOT) but other sites are secondary targets, your flustered replies make me think that you are a shill yourself or just a newfag dumbass.

>>82859785
To troll the shills

Duh

>>82859928
>can't provide proof of it happening on 4chan

>>82857357
I exploit their one month free trial feature
I make a new account with a fake email, watch whatever, 30 days later time's up, so I start all over with a new account
I highly recommend people to do this

>>82859977
You can't provide proof that there aren't shills on 4chan.

>>82857357
No, it's a meme that some brainlets fall for. Nobody gives a fuck about this website to that degree. Anons just like either "muh special club" or "muh secret undermining" complexes because it makes their lives feel an iota less empty.

They do, but it's very likely that the unit doing this task, be it internally at Netflix our oursourced, wasn't founded to better the talk on the Internet about a show or something.
It started early, just to get the name out. Saying the service is great, cheap, from the computer, easy.. all that stuff. 4chan is actually a decent space for that, and if you got guys doing it everywhere, it doesn't take up much time.
There is no point in doing that anymore, so - they have to do something else.

>>82859990
I asked first. Where's the proof of shills? Why would I believe something if there is no proof of it?

>>82860007
>they do
Prove it, schizo.

>>82860010
stop de-shilling you shill

>>82857410
kek

This.

I watch online there's tons of website that stream online.

>>82859989
It doesn't work on the same IP address you dumb clod. Is this bait? Has to be.

>>82860025
I'm a shill and I admit that I am a shill.

>>82860041
>backpedaling
Can I have the proof, please?

>>82859989
They know people do this but they bet on that you will eventually get tired of doing that and eventually pay for the service.

>>82860057
That isn't proof.

>>82860074
see
>>82860057

>>82860085
Why would I lie?

is it really so unbelievable that someone would buy gold and auto spam once an hour for a company?

>>82860088
Yeah see, that isn't proof.

>>82860088
That isn't proof.

>>82860052
It's a common netflix shill tactic, they bait people into thinking they are smart by "exploiting" the free trial, gaining more users that will eventually start paying anyway.
You have to a humongous retard to think they don't know how easy it is to abuse the free trial, they just don't care.

>>82857357
>Netflix release full seasons of new shows in hopes of dominating social media for a few weeks
>it works regardless of quality due to the sheer amount of content put out
>idiots cry about shilling
/pol/ was a mistake

>>82860117
Yes.

>>82860010
>>82860025
I don't have any proof, but you don't either. I could argue that it is technologically feasable, considering how much money is spent on advertising it's relatively cheap, it definately has been done before and companies gaining most of the revenue over the internet are especially likely to fight for headspace on there.

So, now I'd like to hear, what you would argue about why there are no shills.

>>82860126
Again, unless they changed something, this literally doesn't work unless you use different IP addresses...

>>82860118
>>82860125
Why would I lie?

>>82860150
>I don't have any proof, but you don't either.
Because you don't prove a negative you brain damaged faggot.

>>82860160
Changing IP is the easiest shit in the world unless you are one of the rare poor sods with a static IP.

>>82860150
Okay, so you don't have any proof and you expect me to argue why there isn't any shills? To prove a negative?


>>82860169
Because admitting you're a shill goes against the entire point of being a shill. Can you prove you're a shill?

>>82860160
Too bad there isn't a way to change your IP address

>>82860204
What if you're the shill?

>>82858463
Then why do faggots always tell me play the trilogy on PC?

>>82860219
Again, more backpedaling.

>>82860197
>>82860209
I highly doubt thousands upon thousands are cycling through new IPs every month for a streaming service that costs barely 10 dollars a fucking month.

You have to be autistic to think anyone is doing this enough to care about, when PirateBay exists.

>>82860236
Because people only know about The Witcher because of the games, the series will be based on the books though.

>>82860240
Answer the question.

>>82860246
Exactly, that's the shill strategy. Back when Netflix was younger you had lots of anons telling you to abuse the free trial which was exactly what Netflix wanted.

>>82860246
>PirateBay

Now it's all so perfectly clear: you're a shill for PirateBay

>>82860289
I'm not a shill. Now prove to me that there is shills or prove to me that you are a shill, because you're not really good at arguing.

>>82860183
>>82860204
I'd expect you to tell me about why you seem to be so 100% sure about there not being any shills here, if you don't have definite proof of this case, but there is proof for various cases of large-scale shilling around. Just look at the '16 election.

I mean, if you think it's more likely, that there aren't any shills around, that's fine. I'd just like to know why after phrasing out why I think it's likely, that shilling happens, and it happens more often than one might think.

>>82860305
Oh shit, you caught me.

>>82860320
Then just prove it!

>>82860150
>you can't disprove that Saturn is made out of orange juice, however it is very likely that it is orange juice based on the sources out of my ass. Now I'd like to hear how you argue against Saturn being out of orange juice

>>82857410
>implying 4chan isn't used by normies who value the convenience of plenty of on demand shows for $8 per month

>>82860320
I never said that I'm not 100% sure of shills. I just want to see proof. Where is the proof of shills?

>>82860298
It's just basic advertising fallout, anon. You kids act like this is some elaborate tactic that should be outright banned from the world.

>>82860351
>THE NORMIESSS REEEE! SAVE ME HUGBOX!!!

>>82860447
Try not be so triggered. I'm a normie. I have Netflix.

>>82860342
What exactly? Should I link you to Correct the Record, european anti-hate/pro-censorship organisations, the situation in the Chinese Internet, or Russian activities everywhere on the planet? Like I've said, I don't have a handy 4chan infographic about the activites of Netflix on /tv/. Sure. I'll admit that. But there is a reason most shilling opeations have a hightened interest in confendiality. It's pretty likely that I'm wrong in this certain case, but in gereral, shilling does exist. You seem to be 100% deadset against it and the only thing that will change is definite proof of shilling. I mean, that's fine, but many things get out to daylight very late and most never see it, so I feel it's narrow minded and stupid to not at least consider it. And you haven't given any good arguments, on why you feel so strongly.

>>82860348
Yeah, that's a good point, really activates my almonds
Especially since you've still haven't said anything about why you're so convinced that there are no shills around.

>>82860362
Yeah, that's fine, then. Do you think it's likely or less likely? And maybe not only in this case here, but more generally, e-commerce and other internet companies shilling on the internet, outside of 4chan, and on 4chan.

>>82857357
well it's not that simple, they pay advertising firms to advertise across a variety of platforms, who in turn subcontract "communication" firms that are basically call centres in mumbai full of poo in the loos who spend all day posting on reddit, neogaf, here, and other places.

NO. This is completely false, probably a narrative pushed by Hulu or something.

I, personally, can't wait to watch the new season of Orange is the New Black, premiering Friday, June 9th, a 5th stellar season of House of Cards on Tuesday, May 30th, and the new season of the hit series The Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, starting in just two days (Friday, May 19th), along with all my favorite movies and Netflix Original Series!!!

Who's with me???

>>82860519
You sound like you have a serious paranoia. I used to have it too when I was a NEET and lonely.

>>82860509
>crying about normies = not triggered
>calling crying about normies, retarded = triggered
Right.

>>82860681
Not him but you're a naive mongoloid, how's your first day in the internet?

>>82860519
>most I have is CTR, which isn't even what most anons think it is
>argument is literally "people advertise"
So, nothing?

>>82860652
kek

>>82860710
>advertising is the worst thing since Hitler

>>82857760
I think the goal is for the users to take over after the initial marketing and have them meme it on later. Just look at that porn site.

>>82860710
>not him
Prove it, shill.

>>82860519
>but in gereral, shilling does exist
Right, it's called marketing you clod.

>>82860748
I don't mind advertising, but gorilla tactics are pure cancer and disingenuous and needs to die, it's poisonous and takes the places of genuine discussions.

I don't think 4chan is shilled that much but the more normie places like reddit are absolutely ridden with shills absolutely everywhere and it's not even a secret since the admins there actively promote that.

>>82860726
Yea, and I feel like it's a good argument. People advertise. Always did it, always trying new forms of it, especially subverting laws, and no Company has ever opened about their complete advertising operation, and outsoucing companies are little known in their inner workings and especially commited to secrecy - and it's one of the biggest industries on the planet.

>>82860837
>but gorilla tactics are pure cancer
You literally haven't explained what that even is beyond some schizo shit or making comparisons to communist regimes.

>>82860837
>the more normie places like reddit are absolutely ridden with shills absolutely everywhere and it's not even a secret since the admins there actively promote that.
kek, you say that like it's true.

>>82860819
Yeah, you can call it that, sure, it is. I don't have any problems with that. Name doesn't change the activity though.

>>82860869
I worked in online marketing and I can tell you, this shit is not some big conspiracy or secret. You have to be autistic to believe that.

>>82860887
So your problem is a boogeyman that you can't even name.

>>82857357
Is this some neverending delusional meme onhow to feel better about yourself browsing 4ch by praising it?
Look around you, would u consider selling entertainment to 4chan anons, imagine their reaction.
No normie fucking cares about this place. Like ever.

>>82860837
>I have zero proof but I believe it anyway
>and you're one of them if you don't believe it

>>82860875
>>82860870
Guerrilla marketing on Reddit is very prevalent and is very well documented, newfags, stop embarrassing yourselves.
https://www.reddit.com/r/HailCorporate/comments/5ij9as/reddit_for_sale_how_we_bought_the_top_spot_for_200

>>82860652
>these types of posts, unironically, are never on this website.
>anons still paranoid as fuck about it.

>>82860918
It's both that nobody really gives a shit about it and some wanting to be some kind of cool and influental group. I remember a few years back when people who complained about marketing on 4chan were all labeled as over-important redditors.

>>82860945
Why would I care about what reddit does? I never even heard of reddit before lurking on 4chan. Why do you care about reddit?

>>82857357
yes

>>82860984
You should make a YouTube video about it.

>>82860977
>lol schizo guerilla marketing doesn't exist xdd
>Actually it does, here's plenty of proof
>LMFAO WHO CARES HAHA XDDD
I can't tell if you're just a retarded newfriend or a literal shill doing some piss-poor damage control.

>>82857357
Netflix threads are always horrible.
The shills they're hiring are the bottom of the barrel.
But maybe /tv/ doesn't deserve better.

>>82860945
>video is literally about basic advertising space buying
>subreddit is literally about how they don't like advertisers
I have no fucking clue what you think is "guerilla" about this. Maybe you are just naive to how marketing works?

>>82861001
Why would you assume I'm that guy? Why do you care about reddit? Do you go on reddit?

>>82860888
>>82860888
Yeah, no - but I'm sure your company doesn't go around showing everyone how the certain contracts with companies look like - which would be some kind of proof - or the strategy they are trying to undertake.
And if you work in-house at a company doing online marketing, your contract will have had a confidentialty clause (correct me if I'm wrong). Sure, that's not like some magic barrier for secrets, but like we've established, people advertise, and oftentimes there is little actual proof about guerilla advertinsing on the internet in the public space. Because they aren't clearly marked, you can't say who's doing what in this arena.
>>82860911
There is absoluetly no problem. There is a basic question. Does Netflix pay people to post for the company on the Internet, especially 4chan. Again, I don't know, no proof, wouldn't suprise me. Are there people getting wages from companies for posting online? Yeah. No way around that. That's my position, and I be glad to reconsider, if there are good arguments being made.

>>82861001
>Actually it does
No, you just gave an example of basic advertiser spot buying...that isn't new retard. I highly doubt you even know what SEO is.

>>82860945
Reddit encourages this type of shit. Usernames, consistent content, voting system, dedicated subreddits for virtually anything. 4chan provides zero commodity for shills. No consistency, no votes, userbase consists of many people knowing how to pirate, the sole purpose of like 90% of the discussion is questioning every aspect of the topic, twisting every argument and shitting all over it, it's a terrible place for anyone trying to take anything seriously.

>>82861040
>Reddit encourages this type of shit. Usernames, consistent content, voting system
Woah, sounds so terrible! Where is the room for cunny and Hitler? Fucking tyrants.

>>82861001
>it exists on reddit
>therefore also on 4chan which has a vastly different design and discussion structure

>>82860964
its pretty dumb reasoning anyway.
heavy blatant shilling is frowned on so you likely have to bring up something to triggering everyone into a discussion.

>>82861038
You didn't make a point about contractors, your point was that there is some supa dupa secret marketing tactic that only the "higher ups" know when this is literally not how the marketing atmosphere works in the slightest. Everyone has the tools now, welcome to the internet.

>>82861065
I'd rather have cunny shit than reddit.

>>82861098
Then you are autistic.

>>82861080
>not convincing your Pajeet boss that 4chan is very important so you can shitpost while getting paid

It's like you've never been to india

>>82861126
They have computers in India? Kek.
>I'm not a robot image comes up with Curry World

>>82861038
>your contract will have had a confidentialty clause (correct me if I'm wrong).
As far as, I can't sell a company's shit as my own that I make for them. The developing tools I use are shit you can find anywhere. It's like you want me to sign a form of confidentiality because I use a computer, in a world of computers.

You are talking about in-house programs that a company designs or manages.

>>82857649
nice smooth bait

>>82861093
That wasn't what I was trying to say at all. I'd talked about that to point out why I don't have any definite proof of Netflix doing it on 4chan, like you would with most cases of guerilla advertising, so I feel like basing an opinion on this only on hard proof is ultimately at the end of the day the right thing - without hard proof this question couldn't ever be answered - and until then, we don't know - in my opinion, maybe points make it likely. The absence of proof in public doesn't mean that there is no proof outside of it, even more so, I think you have to assume that only the tiniest amount of concrete cases get out in the open. So while yes, proof makes things 100% clear, the absence of it doesn't do that. Still as ambigious as before.
>>82861169
Oh, okay, cool. Again, correct me if I'm missing something, doesn't that make you more involved into how to get the advertisments out there and less about advertising strategies as a whole? It sounds like you're developing tools the advertsing firms can use, and your company isn't involved in actually advertising, only in form of the tool the agency uses.

>>82861065
It's funny because Reddit used to be pedo central until the admins cleaned up the place to make it attractive to advertisers.

>>82861388
>doesn't that make you more involved into how to get the advertisments out there and less about advertising strategies as a whole?
Everyone is different in how they approach digital media marketing (which is my experience and the topic of this conversation). I think you are conflating the groups who do in-house systems work, and marketing divisions as a whole. My job for instance, was digital social media. It was a small company so we used commercial methods to advertise; shit you can utilize anywhere, in conjunction with a private website and address. Most of my job was managing it all. I didn't invent the tools, I just used them.

There are larger companies that hire entire in-house teams to create their own systems, or their own SEO models that they then maintain complete oversight of and control all the revenue associated with it.

It'a all marketing, it's all under the umbrella dude. Minor differences, the same goal.

>Why do people on 4chan want to talk about things that are popular?
>Is it becasue they are popular enough that any reasonably sized group of people is going to have people who want to talk about it?
>Or are there people being paid actual money to market stuff to a bunch of contrarions who like to pirate shit leading to a likely net loss?
>IT MUST BE THE SHILLS

>>82857357
The shows on Netflix are of such extraordinarily high caliber that they certainly don't need to be promoted online. Dynamic connoisseurs of true Kino will doubtlessly recognize their quality and subscribe without any prompting.

Doubtful. You only ever seen Netflix's popular shows getting shilled, because /tv/ has been taken over by normies that migrated from /r/The_Donald.

>>82862120
>NORMIESSS REEEEEE SAVE ME HUGBOX!!!

>>82857357
yes

>>82858606
then surely they would want to sshill on FB or Reddit or something

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Yes. Anyone who actually likes 13 Reasons on here is shilling and should kys immediately

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>>82857701
>tfw once made the mistake of loading /who/ while Doctor Who wasn't being broadcast

never again