>The grungy re-imagining of the medieval tale was initially

>>82825143
Why is Warner Bros so incompetent?

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>>82825143
lmao

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>>82825143
How many indignities can one man face?
>Married Madonna 10 years passed her prime
>Made a terrible vanity project for her that totally fucked up his upward mobility
>High-profile divorce which likely cost him millions of dollars
>Has to make one-note B movies for the better part of the 2000s to compensate
Somehow got lucky with RDJ fever thanks to Sherlock Holmes, would have flopped without him
>Now this

>>82825143
How can you make a "shared universe" franchize about characters who have always shared the same fucking story to begin with?

Yeah a solo Lancelot movie is what people are just begging for.

>>82825232
>King Arthur movie == Avengers
>Solo films for each of his knights
>medieval british version of the MCU

The wait is finally over...

GALAHAD

Summer 2019

Get hype.

>>82825232
You lack any creativity and just steal words and ideas from successful movies

>>82825143
>multiple spin-offs introducing other major characters like Lancelot and Merlin, who would then eventually come together for their own Avengers-style Camelot movie.
That's so fucking hilarious for some reason, oh my god.

>>82825143
costume design looks shit

nu-blockbusters NEVER get this right for medieval type stuff

his outfit is far too clean and professional, just looks out of place

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>>82825232
You could add Robin Hood and Harry Potter prequel characters.

>>82825143
Hopefully Hollywood will learn you just can't be successful with this many white actors. Perhaps the next incarnation can have a white King Arthur and a white Guinevere while the 12 Knights of Color run train on her just like the legends told it.

I'm sure the people making Robin Hood Origins are feeling really confident right now.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4532826/

everything about this movie just looks so bland and cliche. The question should be why would anyone be interested in seeing this?
The only selling point is literally the title. and if you've seen an episode of Sons of anarchy you know that Charlie Hunmann has the emotional range of a hamster.

>>82825536
>jamie foxx
>little jon
lolwut

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>>82825143
I-It's fine everything's fine nothing to see here

>>82825232
Buzz words on top of buzz words

WE HAVE TO TELL JAY

>>82825517
>white King Arthur

That's where you messed up.

>>82825196
disney are probably having second thoughts about him directing their live action Aladdin movie.

>>82825536
the writer is also doing the Flash. jesus christ.

What is more JUST- tier: Sony pictures, or WB?

>>82825196
>married Madonna
>LOST money when divorcing her
how?

>>82825536
>robin hood origins
not, beginning, or genesys or chronicles

>>82825657
>their live action Aladdin movie.
what

>>82825664
silly anon, no matter how rich the woman is it's always the guy who pays up

instead of making this movie they should have bought me a mansion

Why do people think the "gritty realistic" version of some older thing people liked will be good? I'm fairly certain we've had two other grungy re-imaginings of king Arthur relatively recently and they sucked.

>>82825663
Sony, but WB is getting there.
>>82825692
yyyeah, Disney are making a live action Aladdin movie, you know, just like Beauty and the Beast. and it's also going to be a musical. and there's reports that Will Smith wants to play Genie.

>>82825663
WB has been around since forever so hits and misses are expected. Sony thinks they can throw money at the problem to fix it

>>82825143
150m is nothing to WB.
that being said, they fucking suck, they don't get that nobody really likes these shared universes or remakes of old fairytales? nobody liked hansel and gretel, snowwhite sword fighter edition, live action cinderella... GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASSES AND REALIZE WE DONT WANT THAT CRAP

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we

>>82825715
Robin Williams will never ever be replaced as the genie

>>82825663
Sony has a billion dollar movie this year

WB won't have a next year at all

>>82825353
I thought this was a joke post because before I opened the image to look closer I thought it was a picture from set or something with him either standing around in his normal clothes or photoshopped in for some reason. That's how out of place he looks.

it should be baned to make adaptations when the last one is not even a decade old

maybe the grungy, dirtty, pesimistic portrayal of fictions should take a break.
look at how some asians countries portray their ancien history, they recreate aesthetic ideals, in architecture, in beauty etc.
i guest thats impossible since (((they))) are enamored with decadence, ruin and general promiscuity

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>>82825737
>nobody really likes these shared universes
wrong

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>>82825143
Feige must be laughing his ass off.

>WB is now as shitty as Sony Pictures

What the fuck happened to WB? They were great in the 00s and now they can't do anything right. Who the fuck approved $175 million for a fucking King Arthur movie?
Prediction: Wonder Woman and Dunkirk will under perform.

>>82825596
>not having Lil Jon playing Lil Jon

>>82825827
Too bad the MCU has the opposite problem that the dude grunge lmao crowd has -- they're equally as bland and samey, but instead of DARKNESS it's lol so randumb humor and dude retro lmao

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>>82825837
wow what a bold fucking prediction. EVERY movie they have will "under preform" and most will fucking bomb hard

I mean LOOK AT THIS SHIT WB WISHES it were Sony right now

>>82825825
disney is disney. They could make a comedy with hitler as protagonist and it would still make 200 million. The new star wars are shit and nobody really likes them except for dumb cosplayer girls and kids who don't know better. And autists that really wanted to enjoy a revival of star wars.
Avengers? i like disney/marvel shit in general, but im not invested either. They could stop after infinity war and i wouldn't care

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we are burned out on medieval shit that never happened.
give us new.

>>82825899
No delete this, Dunkirk, Blade Runner, and It will save the studio!

>>82825767


yeah he will, by wil smith. wtf did you not read the words you replied too?

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>>82825143
Twitter was a mistake.

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>>82825196
wrong about that one mate
made some pretty good films too, not sure why he thought directing this one would be a good idea

>>82825342
i think its because out of anything possible choosing the arthur setting for your avengers style franchise seems kinda wacky

>>82825959
1) R-rated movies don't make money
2) No one wants to see ANOTHER WW2 movie and Nolan lost any goodwill he had after those last 3 piles of shit
and 3)Blade Runner cost over $200 million

WB dies this year

>>82825985
ayyyyyy

and he's made two good films. the first two in his career. Revolver and Rock N Rolla are mediocre.

>>82825232
>implying Arthurian legends aren't already expanded universe with all Gawain, Percival or Galahad solo stories

>>82825536
If a Robin Hood movie starring Russel Crowe bombed this has zero fucking chance

>>82826035
>WB dies this year
as in get "rescued" by chinese investor, not like i'm complaining

>>82825196
also he got circumsized because of Madonna then she divorced his ass

>>82825143
>that tailored outfit; haircut and shaved beard

>>82826102
as in gets shut down and has all it's IPs sold to studios that can actually make fucking movies like Disney or Universal

>>82825517
Inb4 The Green Knight scares Guinevere to death.

I would like a serious Holy Grail movie.

British folklore just isn't interesting.

>>82825737
>nobody really likes remakes of old fairytales
box offices of Beaty and the Beast says something different

>>82825143
WE

>>82825651
King Arthur has to be white so he can be cucked by black Lancelot

>>82826102
The Chinese owning Kubrick's legacy irks me, but seeing WB die an ignominious death makes it worth the potential danger.

>>82826317
it is but the last one is too recent and it's been done a lot

what about a king arthur fully in gaelic?
someone call based Mel

>>82826390
Also this one just looked fucking retarded. I'm sorry it just did.

>>82826096
If anything Arthur is the narrative centre of gravity that pulled all these other characters and tales together into his orbit as a shared mythos.

>>82825143
Nice, even those trash Snow White movies looked better then this.

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>>82825143
>shared universe
>king arthur
> come together for their own Avengers-style Camelot movie

What a fucking embarrassment. Who runs these studios.

Why don't they learn? John Carter was at least not a remake. But it was still based on a century old IP. No bells ringing after that one?

Ben Hur, Robin Hood, King Arthur. I get it, they're old so they're cheap. Same reason you greenlit 20 fairytale movies until that fad died. But Jesus fucking Christ the amount of original stuff just dying in development, compared to this stuff you think is "safe". It isn't. It's consistently failing. If you want to burn money, at least do it on something new.

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>>82825899
>EVERY movie they have will "under preform" and most will fucking bomb hard

Kong: Skull Island
166 million to make. x2 for marketing: 332
564 million box office. 1.6 return.

I guess if you just say it didn't meet whatever imaginary 2 billion goal the producers claimed it could do it underperformed.

But it didn't really. That's respectable for a pretty cheap movie. For comparison Avengers: Age of Ultron cost 459 mil, x2=918 million. It took in 1,4 billion but with the budget and marketing that's still just a 1.5x return.

It's this math that is the reason no-budget horror movies that cost a couple of million to make can be amazing investments. Because with minimal budget, if they build enough hype, they can get astronomical returns.

>>82825143
I want to slap the cunt who wanted a cinematic universe for fucking Arthur.

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>>82825143

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That movie was doomed to be a huge failure.
I know that because I didn't even know it was being made when the trailer came out.

>Ritchie has lost it

It's cool though.
I don't want a sequel to Rocknrolla after all.

who hyped for the motherfucking Scooby Doo Cinematic Universe?

>>82827272
really makes me think

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>>82825353
It wasn't Medieval in the first place, nigger.
King Arthur is fantasy kino.
It's like complaining why in Afro Samurai there's mp3 players, rockets, night vison googles.
You want Dark Age kino you go see Excalibur '81.
Stupid fucking cunt. Go back to redit, you piece of shit.

>>82825561
>not wanting to see based Jude Law as an evil wizard king

don't understand how this movie flopped desu

Harrison Ford dies in Indiana Jones 5 and gives the torch to the next generation. Also there's new Lara Croft cameo in it. Also negotiations for an Uncharted film that'll tie in, as well. They're going for a cinematic universe. Screencap this.

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>>82827438
Excalibur is much more fantasy looking than this one, this has the grimdark GoT aesthetic that doesn't know whether to be realistic or not and ends up looking like shit

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>>82825705

>>82826179
50mil man that's a pretty good deal.

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>>82826844
They only greenlight stuff that "should" work, no matter how bizarre and retarded
Remake an old film. It made money then so it should make money now!
Pulling an IP from the depths of obscurity/weebshit. I mean GitS made money, so why can't it make money here?
And of course
Cinematic universe. After the guaranteed success, we can make EVEN MORE MONEY
And of course it fails, because that's not how shit works. But since it "should" have worked, nobody loses their jobs. The only people who take no risks are the suits, burning through company money to throw darts at a board.

>>82825232
Arthurian legend is a medieval version of the same thing. There were lots of separate stories of different knights, that were brought together into one work by writers like Malory.

>>82825819
Huh? Jews have controlled Hollywood since the beginning, and the whole grim aesthetic is relatively new. It's not like old Hollywood movies weren't made by Jews.

>>82827571
Back when armor resembled real armor instead of brown leather jackets with belts all over the place.

>>82825827
If the utterly childish Iron Man is near the pinnacle of the superhero genre then truly, the genre is nothing more than a mistake and a cash grab.

>>82827571
>mistaking Dark Ages with fantasy
seriously you have to be actually at least 18 to post here

>>82827571
Young Jeremy Corbyn at the back there.

>>82827687
>full plate armor
>Dark Ages
Fuck off retard

>>82825143
King Arthur: Legend of the JUST

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>>82827097
>marketing equal to budget

>>82827686
this is true
however, that man is tapped into the cultural zeitgeist more than almost any other person. as a business man he is an absolute genius

>>82827687
Dark Ages aren't a thing

>tfw you know about the complete clusterfuck that was this film's production with the insane rewrites at the last moment, entire characters written out because of incompetence, huge amounts of money wasted left and right. If it ever comes out it will be hilarious. Never been involved in a film ever like this before.

>>82826096
This. The problem isn't the idea of having a shared universe centered around Arthurian legends - that's actually fitting to the source material. The problem is that modern Hollywood does not know how to actually make good blockbusters, they only know how to make soulless cardboard cliche-fests.

>>82827686
I can still respect someone who knows what he's doing instead of subscribing to the voodoo logic of other execs

>>82827756
True

>>82827779
learn to greentext reddit

>>82826844
>If you want to burn money, at least do it on something new.
If you burn money on something everyone else is doing, then maybe you can pass the buck. Obviously movie-goers don't know what they want, or the trend is dying, or shit like that. But if you try something's new, all the blame is going your way, and you're fucked.

>>82825266
>Solo films for each of his knights
YOU MEAN I COULD HAVE HAD A GREEN KNIGHT MOVIE!
FUCK THIS GAY EARTH!

>>82827850
How are you enjoying your first week here?

I watched the movie yesterday and I was suprised that I liked it. These fighting scenes were pretty fun

>>82827643
The kings are last to feel the famine

>>82825232
Nigger, a series of movies about the Matter of Brittany would have been the shit and actually tap into an IP that hasn't been already rehashed to death

>>82827787
Hollywood never knew how to make good blockbusters. They've always been fumbling around hoping for the next big success, then riding the bandwagon until it becomes clear that they don't understand why that movie was successful.

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>>82825196

He married Madonna 5 yrs past her prime is all.

Let's be fair.

Pic related is the end point and he married her in 2000.

>>82825663
probably MGM or Universal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer_films

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Universal_Pictures_films

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>>82827766
Here's (you) you asked for.

>>82827892
nah he's right that greentext was an abomination

>>82827941
the end of her prime was closer to 1985 dude. She turned 30 in 1988. You're gonna try and convince me she was anywhere close to her prime at 37?

she was hottest from before 1980-1990 and that's it

>>82827974
Caring about shit like that is a really easy way to show off your new. Don't do that.

Is it too much to ask for a really good grail quest movie?

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>>82827959
Yeah, Excalibur had totally Dark Ages looking armor

>>82825536

>I'm sure the people making Robin Hood Origins are feeling really confident right now.

Kek, Jamie Foxx as Little John, (((Hollywood))) truly needs to be nuked.

>>82828020
>Dark Ages
Anon the dark ages is a historical meme that no one has believed in for generations. Saying it makes you look like a stupid asshole.

>>82826844
Hollywood is in a panic right now. They have no fucking clue what they're doing. It used to be you put a big name in a picture and it was a success. Now actors aren't pulling in audiences. It used to be certain directors could pull an audience. Not anymore.

That's why they're catering to China. The old shit that doesn't work in the US anymore still works in China. They're going keep milking China until they wisen up.

>>82828016
Indiana jones and the last crusade exist, anon

>>82828061
I'm just giving him the benefit of the doubt and pretending he is using Dark Ages to refer to the V-IX centuries timeframe

>>82828061
It actually applies here funnily enough, because even contemporary historians all agree the post roman period that Arthurian Legend is set in was REALLY FUCKIN DARK in Britain, which is where the meme started from.

Many will still use "early medieval" out of politeness even when talking about Britain, but the meme still applies here. We go from a wealth of sources to fucking ??? for centuries.

>>82828102
Should have qualified the statement. I mean a new movie set in arthurian times.
As much as I love excalibur there's too much in the movie and it trips over itself to get to the next plot point.

>>82828082
I agree that this is what's happening, but the question is why aren't people going to the cinema as much as they used to? It is fatigue from too many films being released? Is it the likes of Rotten Tomatoes becoming more popular than it used to be? Is it online streaming services taking up more of the marketplace? Is the love of film dying? Probably a combination of everything.

>>82827097
are you implying Age of Ultron cost near enough 1b to make?

>>82827272
mouse at it's finest

>>82828012
it's just embarrassing to see someone fail so hard at trying to fit in, nothing wrong with calling them out on it

i await your attempt to seem "above" what you perceive to be the average poster here by implying that i'm doing exactly what i just mentioned

>your
nice try

>>82828208
Tickets and theater food are too fucking expensive and most of the movies aren't worth all that, especially if you're a normie with an average family. That's why the Disney stuff makes bank because people know what to expect and trust the brand.

>>82825143
I liked this movie. I have no idea why it's getting shit on so much.

>>82827932
It's true that Hollywood always stumbled into things, but from the 1920s to the early 1990s or so, they've always had a strong core of professionals who understood the craft of filmmaking. They knew how to write engaging screenplays, how to film actors interacting in a way that makes you care, how to pace scenes, and so on. I don't know what happened to those people. It's like the last of them all retired and nobody took their place or something. The modern Hollywood blockbusters look like they were made by film students with no life experience and no understanding of the craft, who can only ape previous films or create video game cutscene-looking shit cgi fests. Even crappy 80s B-movies and dumb action flicks have more craft and heart than these modern blockbusters. They weren't good movies, but the people made them had an understanding of the simple, little things - nowadays even something as fundamental as pacing constantly gets fucked up, and modern films have schizophrenic pacing that follows no logic or artistic principle.

dark ages are an antieuropean jewish muslim meme

>>82827272
this could easily be an error though

get me some more instances of this happening and i'll never pay for a marvel film again

>>82828293
this.

It wasn't good but it wasn't that bad desu. Nowhere near the level of shlock as some are suggesting although the final CGI battle was horrendus

>>82828319
*antieuropean British meme

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>>82825143
>all these failed attempts at shared universes

>>82828263
It's the other way around, I've been here so long I don't need to try so desperately hard to fit in as you are. And I mean your as in the new you are showing, newfriend.

>>82828208
Plus a decent home theater is cheaper than ever to buy and set up, and big budget movies seem to be released on VOD or redbox inside of six months.
Baby figs wont remember when it was a year or more before something got released on VHS pan and scan, and having a tv over 32 inches was something only rich people had.

N-no. How could this happen?!

>>82828423
The problem is that they start off with the intent of creating a cinematic universe or franchise instead of focusing on making a good movie and waiting for audience reactions to try and make sequels.

>>82828305
There are plenty of decent directors still. You touched upon the real problem at the end: editing. Nowadays the studios mess with films at the editing stage way more than they used to and in a different way; it's a "too many cooks" thing, and these guys don't know anything about the sort of classical theory you are talking about. The problem is everyone in the industry thinks they know how to make a movie and can get their hands dirty.

>>82825882

you're only describing the 2 gotg movies, dcuck

>>82828440
>begin post with "it's the other way around" as if the rest of your post will contradict mine
>proceed to do exactly what i said you'd do

congratulations

you may have been here since day 1 but you're still a moron

>>82828322
Knock yourself out.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/guardians_of_the_galaxy_vol_2/reviews/?sort=

>>82828558
I never said anything about the average poster. You seem really insecure about how long you've been here, that's all I was commenting on.

>>82825232

Easy... you just make a round table movie (avengers) and then individual movies for the main characters (Arthur movie, Merlin movie, Morgana movie, Mordred movie, and so on)

It is not a good idea at all but it can be done.

>>82825143

Why did they even think they would get away with that? Planning for several movies when the concept is not proven is amateurish at best. Marvel kind of test drove it's cinematic universe making comic events for years so they at least knew there was SOME audience for what they where attempting to do, if only the geek audience.

But this? a new Arthur on a John Carter/ Snow white and the huntsmen tone? how do theses execs en up convincing themselves this is a good idea that is going to sell.

>>82828305
My question will be justifiably called, for once, pretentious, but I have to ask - why?
Is a reflection of society?

so is Guy Ritchie still doing Aladin? I'm guessing if yes there gonna keep him on a short leash but it's Disney so that comes as a given

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>>82828322

>>82826179
Really? He got circumsized because of her?

>>82825596
I hope it busts too.
When is people going to learn not to put niggers in medieval movies?

>>82828923
just google it there's a bunch of articles, it used to be even on wikipedia

his kids still follow the teaching of kabbalah because of her

poor goy got jewed hard

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>>82825143
why would they even try when this exists desu

>>82828859
The director is the most irrelevant part of a Disney movie. In fact, failing so hard on WB make Ritchie more valuable for Disney

>>82825827
>no scandals or production misfires
>MCU

Tell that to Jon Favreau, Edward Norton, Hugo Weaving, Mickey Rourke, Edgar Wright, Patty Jenkins, Joss Whedon, Alan Taylor, Idris Elba, Natalie Portman or Jeremy Renner.

>>82828646
>Marvel kind of test drove it's cinematic universe making comic events for years so they at least knew there was SOME audience for what they where attempting to do, if only the geek audience.
But the "Avengers initiative" was clearly always in the long-term plan, it was in the postcredits scene of the original Iron Man. They had literally always planned to do it.

The big secret behind Marvel's success at building a shared cinematic universe, where so many others failed, is that the movies were actually decent and they made the audiences care enough about the characters to want to pay for a shared cinematic universe

>>82825536
I don't get why they don't make their own original ip instead of drudging up stuff robin hood and king arthur and then making movies out of tone and similarity with them. It's like making a lotr movie where Aragon has a black sidekick and grew up in the streets of minas tiruth. Honestly wouldn't care if they made their own storiesbabd names.

>>82828004

Sex book came out in 1992.

>>82829278
I think it's mostly the brand awareness thing where people are more interested with something they know

>nigger in medieval england that isn't a slave

suspension broken

>>82825692
Nah, he got loads from the divorce. Back to /r9k/

>>82829346
it ain't even medieval England, King Arthur is literally 5th century AD shit

black people being in Britain at that time period is even more absurd

>>82829209
Goop's absence is becoming rather conspicuous, too.

>>82829096
did they actively attempt to have every member of the cast look as ugly and unremarkable as possible?

>>82829546
Yeah, they are meant to be British

>>82828208
>>82828082

Both of you missed a very key point:

>the studios are reluctant to take on new directors/scripts and risk shekels
>the same studios also don't want to provide high entertainment to the proles because they might learn things (Imagine something like Sharpe's or Legend of the Galactic Heroes hitting the big screen....not gonna happen)
>the same studios also treat screenwriters like shit and pay them even worse (despite the films quality being dependent on a good script)

Ultimately the avoidance of risks, dependence on tarnished liberal talking mouths, the fear of learning proles, and the over-reliance on CGI and known IPs are leading to the decline in Hollywood entertainment.

As for streaming services/home movie theatres/price of admission and concessions/etc etc those are a 'symptom' of the problem: people are avoiding theatres because of the bullshit being released and will just wait until they can 'safely' stream it/pirate/etc. So even would-be moviegoers are avoiding risks. Cest la vie

>I hope the studios go bankrupt af and die to their own greed and princely delusions

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>>82829584

>>82825172
They are literally the Donald Trump of the film world

>>82829584
that chick is like pakistani or something though

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>>82829546
>katie mcgrath
>ugly and unremarkable
t-take that back

>>82829621
missed some very key points*

>>82829647
only her chest section anon

>>82827941
That nipple position looks wrong

>>82826043

>RocknRolla is mediocre

kys faggot. Rocknrolla is god tier

>>82829647
>attempts to make her look vaguely acceptable by covering up that jaw
nah

>>82829465
Let's be honest. You're more likely to see black people in Britain during the late roman period (5th century) than at any time during the Middle Ages or Renaissance until the beginning of the early modern era (late 16th century).

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>>82829696
i would drink her mommy milk
>>82829741
i like her jaw desu

>>82829228
>But the "Avengers initiative" was clearly always in the long-term plan, it was in the postcredits scene of the original Iron Man. They had literally always planned to do it.

Yes, but it didn't just occur to them to do it... they saw it work with the comics. Marvel has been having events like civil war and secret invasion and whatnot for years now. It was a proven concept, albeit not on cinema.

They knew that they had at the very least SOME audience ensured as long as they didn't go all SONY on the movies and did whatever with the characters.

>>82829527
>Goop

?

>>82829817
>as long as they didn't go all SONY on the movies and did whatever with the characters.

They *do* go all whatever with the characters. You just turn a blind eye to it because you're a Disney fanboy. How's that Spider-Iron-Man looking for you?

>2017

>Arthur is male

I think it's pretty obvious where they blew it here.

>>82829847
Gwyneth Paltrow's nickname.

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>movies with forced diversity will fail according to /tv/
>movie about white males doing white male things also bombs
so whats the deal /tv/

>>82829928
Oh I see. Yeah, her too.

>>82825172
they're not, they just take risks

>>82827438
afro samurai was created in the 2000s and is based on a mix of different cultures coming together.

king arthur is a legendary tale literally centuries old and is set in medieval england. it has a very well established story. nobody wants to see black characters and modern clothes in a story about medieval knights

>>82829916
TO be fair I bet you Guinevere would have sold a lot more tickets and would have been counter-programming a bit to GotG2 which is more for teen boys/kids. Not for feminism reasons either just because its a fresh idea. Put in King Arthur as a Spock type cameo, some dude who helps her in a critical moment then goes away.

>>82828634
>You seem really insecure about how long you've been here, that's all I was commenting on.

and all i was originally commenting on was the objectively awful wording in that greentext, you're the one who literally warned me about appearing new in the first place

i also haven't made any claims about how new or old i am yet here you are trying to convince me and anyone else who might be reading this how much of an oldfag you are with contrived casualness and direct statements about how long you've been here

and what i meant by doing what i said you'd do is that you would imply i'm the one trying to fit in, and that you would try to seem like you don't care about any of this when you clearly do. however i didn't expect you to go the extra mile and make your priorities even more obvious with that direct claim to being an oldfag

and i didn't type all of this autism out to prove or disprove your ironically newfaggish statements that i'm new, i did it because i find your lack of self awareness offensive. so if you were baiting (your posts are definitely shitty enough) then you succeeded

but if not, re-evaluate your life, come back and admit you're an insecure faggot or just go ahead and kill yourself

>>82829938
>"not a forced diversity film"
>has niggas in medieval England
I guess the former really is true, then

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>>82829916

At least it wouldn't bomb in Japan.

>>82829903

The iron spiderman is actually a thing during civil war... not exactly the thing they are doing because Marvel just doesn't dare to make Iron Man look like an asshole in the cinematic universe... but Tony does take Peter as his protegee for a while, give him an special suit, make him reveal his identity and all that (off course he uses it to study his spider sense and whatnot to be ready for his betrayal later)

Not the point... the point is as far as fucking the characters go Marvel keeps it relatively close to the source compared to other companies.

Even though they do shit on a lot of stuff like they did with... mostly everything after Winter Soldier.

>>82829916

As he should. Arthur is not black, is not a girl and is not a transgender. And HE SHOULDN'T FUCKING BE for the sake of a political agenda.

>>82825143
it wasn't perfect but I kinda liked it, the final battle was really well done and I thought the way they showed London as being built out of a sprawling Roman ruin was pretty cool.

I liked it a lot more than GotG 2, shame that did so well while this flopped.

>>82825767
>Robin Williams will never ever be replaced as the genie
the guy who played Genie in the Broadway show was pretty good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UL0CDMhjj4

>>82828923

Its in here:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1383468/Guy-Ritchie-circumcised-Madonna-A-Kabbalah-spiritual-leader-claims.html

Also:
> Madonna and Guy married on 22 December 200 at a castle in Scotland
> year 200

They are like a couple of Highlander characters

>>82826844
>ben-hur 2016
its really a shame that one flopped, I thought it was actually a big improvement over the 50's version. But so many people said "wtf you can't remake a classic" forgetting that the 50's version was a remake of a 20's version that a lot of people at the time considered the best movie ever made.

>>82827571

Jeremy Corbyn on the left

>>82827712

Just saw this after making my own post. Quite the resemblance huh?

>>82828061
dark ages is a term still used academically to refer to the early medieval period

saying what you said makes you look like a stupid asshole

>>82830031
Having seen it, I can tell you that this is very much not the Arthur of legend, nor is it trying to be, In the movie, Camelot's already an established kingdom, possibly created by Uther Pendragon, who is decidedly not the lustful bastard we know so well from Excalibur. In a very real sense, Uther feels more like the King Arthur we know, complete with showdown with Mordred and betrayal at the hands of family. Magic is the sole province of a subset of humanity they refer to as mages, sort of like Rowling's wizards. Boorman's too for that matter.

This is set in a true fantasy world, not a mythic 5th Century England, at least not one from our own past. Boorman's film would suffer from a lot of the same criticisms were it to be released today, with its anachronistic armor and artistic choices that force the audience to do at least some of the thinking. Today's braindead "critics" would literally shit all over it and sadly, the overwhelming majority of people here shitting on it right now would follow suit because most of you have never had an opinion that someone else didn't pour into your empty skulls.

>>82829096 >>82829787>>82829647
kate MCgrath is hot. Merlin did it better

>>82829916
memes aside, there weren't any good waifus in this

and that's a problem

>>82827571

Wow Liam Neeson is in this 1981 film

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipSZn5qcJds

>>82830096
there's one black character

It bombed because there was no political agenda aside from a few black characters. So none of the liberals wanted to shill it.

>>82830469
also Patrick stewart and the guy who played Caesar on Rome

>>82830036

Right after I made the post about Arthur not being male I thought about the idea that a Geneveive movie would have fared better in the year of our Lord 2017.

A Genevieve movie where she saves Arthur and saves the day would have made a killing because that is the reality we live in.

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I am waiting for the new mummy to crash hard and kill the Universal classic monster shared universe franchise that they are building
>dracula untold was the first but it didn't count

>>82830652
I was just watching the trailer for this
>seems to be set in late 20th century or modern day
>"this mummy is 2000 years old"
uh, so its from after Egypt was conquered by Rome?

>>82830571

A Genevieve sequel would have also have gone out of its way to rationalize why she would end up cucking Arthur with Lancelot.

>>82830080
>i'm not insecure!
>here is my essay about why

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>>82830500
No Marvel film has a 'political agenda, aside from a few black characters'

Cancer.

>>82830469
>Wow Liam Neeson is in this 1981 film
Also a young hot helen Mirren.

>>82830163
>Not the point... the point is as far as fucking the characters go Marvel keeps it relatively close to the source compared to other companies.

Here's a short list of how close they're *not* keeping it to the source material:


Thor is not a god, although there's a damn good chance that's about to be retconned, similar to my next point which is . . .

Magic isn't a thing on earth, until, oops! It so totally is.

Hawkeye was never voluntarily a bad guy, nor did he ever have a change of heart and reform, nor was he ever a circus performer.

Tony Stark can flat-out beat the Hulk.

The Vision is worthy of the power of Thor, but Cap doesn't quite make the cut.(Arguable, I know, but that shouldn't be left up to interpretation.)

Tony Stark is now canonically the guy who just telegraphed the phrase "friendly neighborhood Spider-Man."


If that's keeping it "relatively close" to the source material, my ass is a banjo.

>>82830170
I'm with you, Big Guy.

>>82830469
>>82830550

And Gabriel Byrne.

>>82830779
>The Vision is worthy of the power of Thor, but Cap doesn't quite make the cut.
didn't they have some caveat to this saying that vision can lift the hammer because he's not really alive

>>82825825
Star Wars became popular before it adopted a shared universe model.
>inb4 EU
No one but severe nerds care about that.

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>>82825143
what's with the fucking model haircut? did he go to "Fresh Cut$" right before the battle or something?

this film is aids, i don't know how they got the go-ahead on his chad outfit either.

>>82830927
No, they had a joke scene where Tony and Rhodey are quipping rationalizations for why the Vision can lift the hammer when they can't. By that logic, Tony should be able to lift the hammer with a remote-controlled suit and any mechanical equipment should be able to lift it as well.

In other words, it's them covering their ass for a shitty shortcut to showing you how "noble" and "worthy" the Vision is, but not really, because lighthearted entertainment.

Fuck DIsney.

>>82827272
what am i supposed to be seeing here?

>>82828061

that doesn't mean plate armour was suddenly invented in the late 5th century...

Legends of king arthur where pretty much school examples as to why we used to call this period the dark ages. This dude was alledgedly one of the most important figures in late roman and early medieval history and we know literally nothing about him.

The early middle ages where dark ages for sure in britain.

>>82831041
Critics rating films at 2.5 and lower and calling one fresh and the other rotten.

>>82830989
>dude people were so dumb before the modern era they didn't even know how to cut their hair

>>82830927
Vision has an infinity stone. Those are more powerful than Thor's magic Hammer.

>>82830989
>Short back and sides is a 'Fresh Cut$' model haircut

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>>82831112
>dude knights in the medievil era cared so much about vanity as to shave the sides of their head and leave it long on top like pigeotto

not buying it mang

>>82830989
The whole aesthetic was meant to be campy and modern, current day ladz but with medieval materials. The production staff were actively told to not care about historical accuracy and just go for rule of kool.

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>>82831112
>>82831142
prove to me this was a popular haircut in the dark ages

>>82831191
did you not see the movie? Arthur isn't a knight in it, he's an upjumped street thug/gang leader from London.

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>>82827097
564 box office is gross, not profit. I think the average is 70% of gross domestic and varying degrees less for foreign, generally still decent in the West and pretty shit in the third world/China.
166 domestic, 398 foreign. 70% of 166 = 116. An optimistic 50% of foreign would be 199. That's 315 taken back on an investment of 300-350. So they're probably in a break even/minor loss range.
And before some rabid shitposter starts the >imblyign, Paul Feig himself said Ghostbusters would have to pass 500mil to start making money, and that was on 144mil production budget and, I assume, a similar marketing budget, slightly less than Kong.

>>82827754
100-150mil is typical for blockbuster marketing, and they probably laid it on thick since they're trying to push muh cinematic universe, so it probably is in the ballpark of 166.

>>82831191
Then you are daft, lad.
Also he's a King, not a knight.

>>82831264
>street thug with a complicated haircut

even better

>>82831137
Not in the comics they're not, and that's what the discussion is about.

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>>82825692

>>82830652
>>82830691
Yeah this looks like shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWeeXtS-XOA

They went about it completely wrong...the first movie in the "universal monster cinematic universe" or whatever the heck it's going to be called should've been back in time, in the 50s or 60s and be about Frankenstein. Could've shown why "Prodigium" needed to exist in the first place. You can't really just jump in and expect people to give a shit.

Anybody listened to the soundtrack? It's pretty neat

>>82831191
They were vain as FUCK what the cunt are you talking about?

>>82826377
Hoedee Mackal!!!!

>>82831337
I dig the hell out of it. You happen to have a link to the music they used in the chase scene? That shit was fantastic.

>>82825143
Reminder that the French added Lancelot and the cuck shit to the King Arthur mythos

>>82831322
wait so its basically hellboy without hellboy?

>>82830301
>I thought it was actually a big improvement over the 50's version
which is why you should be castrated and publicly humiliated

>>82831383
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLVtqVxZgYI&t=

this is it, it's just a longer and slightly different version of the track that was used showing his upbringing called Growing Up Londinium

>>82831444
before I write up a wall of text explaining why I thought it was better, did you actually see it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvS8cvapdMk

>>82831283

>I think the average is 70% of gross domestic and varying degrees less for foreign

The take of the domestic box office gross varies during the time it's being played, at the beginning of the box office run the studio typically gets 60%, sometimes 70% if it's a big hit, then the longer it runs the percentage shifts in favour of the theatres.

A movie that does well will usually net the studio ~60% of the domestic box office gross during it's run.

>generally still decent in the West and pretty shit in the third world/China.

China has a law that only permits foreign film studios to get 25% of the gross, worldwide foreign take of the gross is ~25-35% for studios, so a movie has to do GREAT in foreign markets to be saved if it bombs domestically.

>>82831480
>shaky cam from the first fucking frame
>lame as fuck acting with no charisma or tension that the 50's version obliterates any other film in existance at

>>82826035
>r rated movies don't make money
What are Deadpool, Riddick and Logan

>>82831480
>close up on a few real soldiers
>pan out immediately to a cgi shot
what a piece of shit

>>82831448
Thanks m8.

>>82831511
>>82831538
neither of you answered my question, did you actually see it?

>>82831480
the logic of the scene doesn't even make sense either
>nobody knew that the Roman general was arriving that day
>he happens to talk by their estate on the outskirts of the city rather than through the central part of the city where the wealthy would live
>CHANGING AN ACCIDENT TO AN ATTEMPTED MURDER
fucking retarded bullshit
>>82831555
kill yourself you stupid retard

>>82831596
so you didn't actually see it, you just shitpost about it

>>82825143
>Make King Arthur movie without Merlin
>It bombs
Wow who would have thought

>>82831632
I thought Merlin here was a woman under the name, The Mage or something

>>82831433
sure seems like it

>>82831665
I thought Merlin here was a woman under the name, The Mage or something
What the fuck? Also she only appeared for 2 minutes

>>82831739
If I told you the story behind that woman you wouldn't even believe it.

>>82831751
no we wouldn't, because you're making shit up

>>82831448
Yep! Every bit as fucking great as I remembered it.

I think I might be hyped up too much to go to sleep before I work tonight.

>>82831751
Go ahead anon I'm all ears

>>82825143
JUST

>>82825143
i saw this and it was pretty good desu. i dont know why people wouldnt want to watch it.

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>>82830779
>Hawkeye was never voluntarily a bad guy, nor did he ever have a change of heart and reform, nor was he ever a circus performer.
Good. That was lame as fuck.

>hawkeye was a circus performer in a circus of evil circus performers but then became a good guy
>Bullsey was a professional baseball player you turned his 100mph fastball into a lethal weapon for robbing banks
>trickshot was a circus performer who used his archery skill to extort money and steal things
>Captain boomerang (DC) was a traveling entertainer who showed off his boomerang skills until he turned to a life of crime and became the nemesis of Flash. He would throw a boomerang and the arrogant flash would explain "Haha you missed me!" and then the boomerang would come back and BONK the flash in the head.
>The flash fell for this every time
>half of spider man villains have this same origin story. Pro atheltes or entertainers who used their skills to rob banks and they would run away with those huge cartoon shit money bags with just a big $ sign printed on them.

The movies are better off by leaving out the silver age nonsense.

>>82831824
because it has a black person in it, I am literally shaking right now

>>82831825
I thought Bullseye was completely and utterly insane. Robbing banks is pretty silver age but when you're completely nuts and love killing people baseball isn't really going to cut it

>>82831758
>>82831816
She was originally guinevere but was so fuckin shit at her role they had to cut all of her from the film except one or two scenes and completely changed her role. The whole ending of the film was meant to involve her and lancelot but they scrapped it, messing up the entire way this film was meant to tie into the rest of the franchise.

>>82831622
watched the scene and critiqued it from front to back. if that's your example of a good scene then the film must fucking suck. you're a stupid baby retard who doesn't even deserve my response

>>82831936
I believe you

>>82831936
>the rest of the franchise
good luck with that

>>82831943
>I have VERY STRONG opinions on movies I haven't even seen
why do I even come here any more

Why does Lancelot seem like a fanfic character added in?

>>82831936
I liked the ending they had now, although I thought they could have done more to set up a sequel with the vikings, King Arthur vs the great heathen army would be pretty cool

>>82825561
I thought it was a good movie and would see it again. I wanted to see it because I love King Arthur shit, my friend wanted to see it for that SoA actor, and we both wanted to see it because of this one meme we both saw about maybe a year ago.

I can't find it anymore, but it was Hollywood basing their next blockbuster off of 2016's most trending Twitter hashtag, with it being #cuck and then a picture of King Arthur showing in theaters.

I thought it was pretty good. Didnt feel its length at all, was thoroughly entertained.

>>82831930
Actually yea Bullseye went right from baseball player to hitman. He didn't go through a bank robbery phase like most other comic villains of the 60s and 70s.

>>82831998

He literally is, the French added him.

>>82831998
Isnt lancelot initially another legend from different area, but when Arthur's myth became more wellspread, the people back then just retcon the whole thing to bridge those two tales?

a lot of arthurian legends were stuffs mix and matched from medieval england thrown together. Merlin isnt even a person actually, its just a title for somekind of druid high wizard or something, but I guess the one we got until now is pretty cool.

>>82831963
Does she die in the film? I haven't actually seen it lel I just know some people who worked on it. That fucking production had more funny stories than anything else they worked on. It was a complete clusterfuck, most people were hopeful it could end up a cult classic in the "so bad it's good category". I don't know if editing saved it in the end but I know some previous versions that got scrapped halfway through shooting or even after.

>>82831632
I think Merlin was going to be one of the first solo films.

>>82831993
I have very strong opinions on a scene that I did see and it FUCKING SUCKS AND IS RETARDED

you're a stupid dumbass. there's no going around it. you posted a really, really shitty scene from a presumably even worse movie and it was horrible and I explained why in detail

>>82831998
Because that's what he is. He was added in 100 years after the King Arthur myths were made. During the time the myths became really popular again and Lancelot somehow managed to squeeze his way into being canon

>>82832051
>>82825971
Never mind, found it.

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>>82829465
In Britain it was found that one of the centurions may have been from (or stationed in at one point) North Africa. Now likely this would have been an ethnic Roman colonist or at most an ex-carthaginian local, a tanned pagan soldier at most

But the crazy black community in Britain, longing for belonging, went apeshit over the discovery and claim said soldier was black West African, not knowing a thing about how and what the colonisation of coastal North Africa was and who lived there, trying to exploit the Foothold fallacy for political gain

>>82831998
Arthurian myths are 99% fanfic of the original tale

>>82825827
Its Feige/ourguy/ ?
>>82825882
>>82827686
>>82829209
Delicious tears DCucks

>>82832082
>The French are responsible for the cuckold sub plot
I can't say I'm surprised. So Lancelot was just a self insert for the french youth.

>>82830001
risk...
>another meme movie

How dumb are you?

>>82825232
>How can you make a "shared universe" franchize
Multiple movies focusing on different characters from the stories. How the fuck was this a difficult thing to figure out?

>>82832172
Lancelot is the perfect historical example of a Mary Sue though

Keep saying this but there is a crisis in film promotion.

Another film nobody (normal) knew was even out.

Film companies are doing everything online and think buzz on twitter equals something in the real world, it doesn't.

Fire the hipsters and hire back the old Don Drapers.

>>82829278
>It's like making a lotr movie where Aragon has a black sidekick and grew up in the streets of minas tiruth.
Get Morty on the phone, I got an idea

>>82827954
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Universal_Pictures_films

what
4 out of 6 films released this year are hits

>>82825899
>that CHiPS movie

>>82830475
Which is a case of pure unadulterated Hollywood tokenism

>>82828305
Every movie I witness coming out of Hollywood is pushing political messages by 20-something liberals with zero life experience. Look at that retarded show being made that is literally 'dude what if the evil republican christrians were in charge of society??' and totally ignore that every extreme patriarchal/degradation of women is currently right this very moment being practiced in the majority of the muslim world, but they get a pass. So no, I'm not paying to be told what to think by a bunch of trust fund baby writers and directors.

>>82825143
Good news then, definitely.
I think it's a good thing when a new expanded universe shit fails.
Unfortunately Marvel the worst of them all seems to be unkillable yet.

Isn't Disney making a live action version of the Sword in the Stone right now?

>>82832116
its a lot more historically accurate than most hollywood depictions of Rome, that's why I liked that scene

personally I liked the movie because they changed the story quite a lot and I thought it was an improvement. Instead of Messala being a local roman aristocrat recently returned from his indoctrination in Rome which leads to a falling out with Judah, he's a ward in Judah's house from a disgraced Roman family who is unsatisfied with his place in life so joins the army. When he comes back later as an officer he attempts to get Judah to help him prevent violence in Jerusalem by naming names of zealots. Judah balks at this which leads to the falling out between the two of them. Judah's sister is helping out the zealots and when he finds out he kicks them out of his house except for one kid he hopes to unindoctrinate, but the kid has been radicalized by Rome killing his family. During the parade through the city that kid attacks a Roman officer then flees (instead of the accident of the loose roof tile) this leads to the downfall of Judah's house.

I thought this was a much more satisfying way to do it, both of them are in the wrong which makes their reconciliation after the chariot race much more satisfying.

Here, have a bit more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5zmUSz4isE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-B9sGG4X8Q

I thought the relationship between the two was much better in this one.

>>82830475
Two, actually, which is precisely two more than the shits I gave about the impact they had on my enjoyment of this movie. I fucking loved it.

>>82831998
Because niggers being in England at that point is a complete fabrication.

>>82828387
>>82828319
It was from the renaissance when thinkers had a boner for pagan greece/rome and thought the fall of them was the worst thing

The term "dark" just means lack of information, in reality it's gone away because more research has shed light on the period, removing the darkness

There still are real Dark ages though, like the mysteirous Greek Dark Age of the bronze age

>>82832779
>and thought the fall of them was the worst thing
are you implying it wasn't?

>>82832779
It's still a dark age for Britain, and it was British scholars who started it. Like holy shit we know almost nothing about that period.

>>82831208
And how'd that work for them?

>>82832853
Yeah it was a pretty dumb idea. When people go to see a fantasy/medieval film that's what they want to see.

>>82829635

They dont seem to be winning

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>>82832779
>greek dark age of the bronze age

The greek bronze age was the mycenaean age, of wich we know just as much as other bronze age information. The greek dark age was during the archaic period during the migrations of the doric and later ionic peoples.

Please don't spread misinformation.

As for the dark ages question, in britain there sure were dark ages in the early medieval period. See my answer here:>>82831082

>>82833062
other bronze age civilizations*

>>82833062
he clearly meant to say the greek dark age after bronze age collapse

>>82829635
>literally
And yet you got no upvotes for saying that. If you're going to randomly bring politics up like the cow towing yuppie you are, at least talk your age.

>>82832733
Sir Palamides the Saracen has been there since Lancelot was Tristan.

>>82833187
>Sir Palamides the Saracen
is not a nigger.

>>82825232
Many of the knights of Arthur have their own stories, with Gawain and the Green Knight being one of the more famous.

>>82831936
Pretty sure she would be Morgana.

>>82833366
Yeah, the reason she wasn't recast as Morgana was because they wanted to write her out entirely.

>>82831026
Or it could have something to do with Vision having an infinity stone as part of him, or the fact that he is probably the most pure out of all of them (cap included) because he is an AI that was given sentience

>>82833547
Purity and worthiness are two related but different things. By your metric, an infant could lift Mjolnir and wield the power of Thor.

Also, see >>82831303 and >>82831137 and the fact the discussion started with how they're keeping things "relatively close" to the source material.

>>82832256
I meant in general, they let filmmakers do what they want and don't always play it safe

>>82833649
I wasn't implying that the infinity stone allows him to wield it because it's so powerful, but I do think that would factor in to whether or not the hammer judges him as worthy. This is a lot of speculation but I would say that the reason infants/Captain America can't wield the hammer is that being worthy involves being pure and already possessing some strength, Thor is able to wield the hammer because he is already a powerful being and has a noble heart, if someone like Cap were to wield the hammer then the hammer would be pretty much the only thing giving him power besides his muscles.

>>82833348
Gawain and the Green Knight. Directed by Guy Ritchie.
>Hey, hey Gawain. Want to play a little betting game, make some dosh.
>What do you want Green Knight?
>Right, right. What I want you to do is cut my fucking head off.
>What? Fuck off.
>No wait, listen. You cut my fucking head off right, and then next year, I'll cut off yours! First one to die looses. Unless you're a pussy.
>How...? Okay, you got a deal.

>>82827658
>Jews have controlled Hollywood since the beginning


Actually thats not technically true, by the end of the1960's yes, production and studio execs were mostly jewish so you can say they 'Run the show' by then.

However before then they were only amongst the hollywood elites with the regular goy's (mostly writing staff...hence alot of subversive material coming out at athe time, along with communist buddies.)

>>82833752
Cap in comics can wield the hammer. He's one of the few who can.

http://observationdeck.kinja.com/the-worthy-14-characters-who-possessed-the-power-of-th-1605439233

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>>82827670

Wholly fuck this! whens the last time you saw a full set of armour that wasnt CGI to some extent (if not the whole thing, like that WoW film...yuck)

Maybe LotR?

Whats the matter, hollywood, metal getting too expensive?

>>82833927
Well now I'm irate because my specific fan-theory didn't line up the way I had hoped. Fucking Marvel

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>>82827712
>>82830360
>>82830360
>>82830390


Fucking Corbynistas and your hive minds. Is making an obseravtion unique to yourself so difficult?..

..Suppose it has to be, if you end up voting for the cunt.

>>82825819
The execs only make decisions because they think it makes money, and they think grim takes on high folklore will make money, people now legit cringe and groan when some ad comes up for some xXxDarkAndEdgyxXx take on an old story

But the constant flops say otherwise, likewise how DCU's grim flicks are crushed by Marvel's upbeat capekino. For being supposedly amazing moneymakers, those jews are actually quite terrible at money matters