Justice League - 6 weeks of reshoots

WB wanted to do it secretly

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Really makes me think..

get your fucking fake news outta here

Marvel must be scared this will make them look shit.

Reshoots with Snyder means movie will be even better.

Damage Control Extended Universe

WB's only chance for big money this year is movie about murdering alien clown.

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>>82824561
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*inhales*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Fucking hell, is WB tampering again, or was this actually Snyder/editor's deciding this needed to happen? I can be okay with the 2nd, but if it's the first, I'm officially done with this until WB fixes itself.

>>82824561
What are they changing? That's what matters here, not that they are changing things per se.

Serious question - How many minutes of footage can you shoot in 6 weeks?

>>82824982
yieepadadeepadadeepada - thats all folks!

This is common with literally every blockbuster you fucking try-hard

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>we have to make a scene to fit in our new skrillex and kendrick track

>>82825076
They probably wanted Affleck to be leader of DCEU but now they want to change it and make ?? new leader.

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>>82824561
>It's another Marvel paid shill write fake articles to hurt DC image episode.

>>82825076

About two month's worth.

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>>82824561
Well the good news is with all these bombs WB will get shut down and a studio that's actually fucking competent can make these movies

>>82824561
All of these costumes except MAYBE Batman's and Wonder Woman's look like absolute garbage. Why is this?

>>82825176
>Not funny. Stupid. Cheesy.
Batman & Robin PTSD intensifies. COOL PARTY

COME TOGETHER

>>82825109
this can't possibly be real

>>82825176
Is this guy credible?

>>82825306
Yeah

>>82825117
gal

>>82825306
OF course not.

>>82825176
IF what he's saying is actually true (no way to actually know yet), then it's the Suicide Squad problem all over again. WB sticking their hand in and not letting the actual talent do the movie.

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>>82825295

>wow suicide squad was sure popular because of all the pop music we put in it

>you know what we need for all our other movies now

>>82825176
that's pretty evident from the trailers.

>>82825721
that's not true! that's impossible!

>>82824561
>>82824561
Fuck you Disney, Your shit's about to be released, including Thor and Spiderman, whereas no one's fucking with WB. I will laugh when your shit's released online. The time of Kino is upon us, Disney shill. Eat shit and despair!

>>82825076
An entire movies worth, assuming there are no super crazy time consuming bits. Action stuff I assume would take longer, but in 6 weeks they could shoot practically an entirely new storyline of normal scenes.

From my expereince 3-5 minutes a day is average.

>>82825853
What are actual DC fanboys going to latch onto as their next war when the DCEU crashes and explodes?

>>82825892
Kaiju films.

>>82825892
Will WB even be able to survive the implosion of the DCEU?

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>>82825808
Other than the quips, it doesn't seem anything like marvel. It's still look serious and grimdark. That nigga is just saying shit that he knows can't be refuted, so that way people can't hold him to his word. He's literally doing, my dad works for Nintendo. Only retards believe assholes on the internet.

>>82824561
I'm sure it'll be great.

I mean, look at Cyborg.

>>82824561

Shouldn't this be a good thing?

>>82825892
Wait patiently for the reboot. Gotham and CW shows too.

>>82825076
Entire films have been shot in less fairly freuently

>>82825721
>WB now makes 2.5hr long music videos
fuck this timeline

>>82824580
Based review screw

>>82825892
I literally don't care if the DCEU crashes and burns, as long as Snyder's vision completes itself
This film has the potential to be the greatest third act of a trilogy in the last 30 years of cinema. It's exciting

>>82825995
AT&T is coming to fit WB into their own walled garden

>>82825995
WB isn't surviving this year anyway

Aquaman: HALP! MY SUIT IS TOO HEAVY I CAN'T SWIM!

Flash: HALP! I'M TOO MUCH OF A SISSY BOIPUSSY TO PULL HIM OUT THE WATER MY LEGS ARE LIKE GIANT SEXY TOOTHPICKS!

Cyborg: HALP! I can't move. I have too much CGI on me and can't move unless they animate me and they're on a fucking break right now!

Batman: I'm Batman. I am the night. *swoosh cape*

Wonder Woman: I'm out of here. Leaving people who are in danger to be all emo and shit for decades is my thing now, apparently.

Aquaman: Never mind. I can breath underwater. I just CAN'T MOVE ANYWHERE!

Cyborg: I hear you, brother.

Flash: *strikes effeminate pose*

Batman: ... the night... me... BATMAN! *tries to hid with his clunky and luminescent armor in the shadows*

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>>82826034
People that think that if DCEU fails, it will means that they're going to get their beloved Bruce Timm JLU cartoon eventually on the big screen. There won't be a reboot. They'll just go back to only Batman movies (and the occasionally Superman movie that goes no where)and the same people will be making them so there will no difference in quality. This pretty much the only time WB is going to touch characters like Flash, Green Lantern, Shazam and Wonder Woman. Face it this is it.

>>82826286
BRMMMMMM

Flash: Our trailer is starting. Yeah!

Batman: No. That sound and vibrations are just Superman spinning in his grave.

Would Affleck be able to make a better DCEU than Snyder?

>>82824561
https://twitter.com/elmayimbe/status/864336925796179969

It's just a rumor. OP BTFO

>>82826384
anyone could

>>82824561
rogue one wasnt terrible

Lets be objective please.

I loved MoS and BvS but since the first trailer of JL I knew it was going to be Reddit League: dawn of quipstice. We knew since the first trailer that the common critique was going to be: tries to be Marvel and fails miserably.

This is frankly...a good news. Maybe Snyder got some kind of leverage to lower down the amount of Marvel like comedy and introduce some snyderkino. Or maybe its just for a fixed extended cut. Anyways, the reshots are not a bad idea.

Most of the times the reshots are done to force the execs view on the movie, but that was forced since day one. Maybe, I hope, they are toning that shit down.

Regardless, it seems to be a clusterfuck where Snyder will take blame for just doing whatever he is forced to do. Frankly I cant even imagine how shittier the movies would be without his minimal influence.

>>82825069

If I had to guess, they're making it more colorful and more quippy after Guardians 2 and the upcoming Thor movies. And probably adjusting for whatever bad pre-screenings going on with Wonder Woman.

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>>82826388
>https://twitter.com/elmayimbe/status/864336925796179969
Marvel Shills are an embarrassment.

>>82826424
You're right.
It was beyond terrible.

>>82826322
Ben Affleck already wants out. he's probably going to get killed off in the solo Batman movie, then replaced with Dick Grayson as the new Batman.

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>>82826388
>trusting El Maybe

>>82826481
>Ben Affleck already wants out.
No he doesn't, dumb ass.

In the last trailer it's really obvious that this movie will be mostly characters standing in front of a very obvious green screen background. Other than Bruce visiting Barry at his house or the sea village, the entire trailer was 3 people standing in front of a green screen with like two physical props scattered about. Expect Star Wars prequel levels of CG.

>>82826456
That's terrible.

>>82826493
>N-no He's hate liar...... I S-swear
Damn, Marvel shill need to be exterminated.

>>82825721

Is Sia signed on with a record label owned by WB?

>>82826388
>Marvel shills wrecked
even though we all know that shills will carry on spamming this news for the next 6 months

>>82826322
This is really the worst part about this whole thing. People with brain damage got hold of it and released a bunch of shitty movies. Now if the movie's a hit, we'll keep getting these shitty movies. If they flop, they'll decide people just don't like superhero movies(while desperately trying to ignore Marvel Studios existing) and it'll be decades before they try anything but more Batman.

You can already tell they're starting to move in this direction with pulling Whedon for Batgirl, and pushing Flash back for a fucking Harley Quinn movie.

>>82826125
Snyder was only ever a music video director.

>>82825892

Fantastic Beasts vs Marvel

>>82826559
But the marvel films are dogshit. Regardless of how you feel about the DCEU, why would you want the DC films to be like that?

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>>82824561
>WB DC movie is about to be released.
>Rumored comes out about something bad about their movies
>/tv/ makes a thread about DC being doomed
>It's proven fake
>/tv/ goes "Well they're still shit.
Anyone else grown tired of this game?

>>82826286
wew, i busted a gut! LOL!

>>82826635
only you DCucks

>>82824561
How is Zack Snyder responsible for studio ordered reshots? Do you realize he is not the one calling the shots right?

Daily reminder that ultimate cut of bvs was marginally better received by the studio cut of the same movie.

>>82826384
After the divorce, Ben goes back to his roots.

A bald Matt Damon as Hugo Strange
Kevin Smith as Professor Pyg

Jason Mewes as Rag Doll

Joey Lauren Adams as Catwoman

>>82826617
No matter how dogshit they are, they're still profitable.
And surprise surprise, a company cares more about profit than "artistic integrity".
And if you think any director working FOR a studio has artistic integrity then you're a fucking idiot.
But you'll just call me a Marvel shill without even reading my post, so what the fuck do I care.

>>82826676
>Matt Damon as Hugo Strange
What a strange idea.

>>82826750
smolol

>>82826617
To be honest, the quality of Marvel movies is irrelevant at this point. They're raking in billions a year on those movies alone, and DC is trying to compete with them. Good or bad, they are making metric boatloads of cash on superhero films and getting plenty of positive reviews, something WB has been struggling with for years. They've managed to turn a talking tree, a raccoon, and DANCE OFF BRO into bigger hit sensations than fucking Superman.

Marvel is also the standard for how to do the cinematic film universe meme that everyone's desperately trying to get into.

>>82826505
>levels of CG

How is that any different from Marvel Avengers/Captain Fagmerica? Cunt

>build DC universe as the cure for the common marvelflick
>fails to meet expectations (finantial, that is. it's obvious at this point they give no fucks about critical success)
>reshape the universe following on the steps of Marvel because they keep making bank
>DC will continue to struggle

To be fair DC would have trouble competing with Marvel even if they actually made good movies. But it's how they're reshaping movies on a whim that makes it clear they have no idea what they're doing, and that inspires mistrust in moviegoers.

>>82826854
>it's a DCfriend is so insecure about the quality of his chosen film franchise he attacks the competition without any provocation episode
Wow.

Someone post the terrible cybog CGI. I bet that has something to do with that.

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>>82826493
>tumblr gif

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>>82826994
I wonder why they included Cyborg of all people

>>82827037
Affirmative action.

>>82827046
They could've just made Green Lantern the black version.

>>82827210
That would've been best, really. Hal Jordan is out because the Ryan Reynolds flick was poison, and the world isn't ready for Guy Gardner. So John Stewart would be a good choice.

>>82827249
I always thought he seemed pretty based on the cartoon.

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>>82824561
>the source

>>82824561
Wow Disney shilling full steam so far ahead of the release.
I wish (((critics))) would keep their hands off of this for once and let the public decide, instead of giving them pre-conceived ideas

the thing I hate most about these re-shoots is that they give everyone an excuse to defend these shit movies

>b-but the director's original vision PROBABLY would have been much better

suicide squad would have been shit regardless of studio tampering and JL looks to be the same, there's no way this garbage could have worked

>>82827315
345 followers? If this was a credible source there'd be more followers surely?

>>82824635
This

>>82824580
Batman's no kill rule was always dumb anyway, for Superman it makes sense, when your a God you can afford to have strict morals - Batman should be doing anything necessary to protect people. It

>>82827443
>It
what did you mean by this?

>>82827037
In the nu52 reboot they booted Martian Manhunter out of the justice league and made Cyborg a founding member.

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>Bleeding Cool

>>82824982
Yakko! Wakko! Dot!
Nooooooooooooo!

>>82824607
How many times has /tv/ said that? How many times has it been true?

Remember when no film in the DCEU has ever broken a billion dollars, while Marvel's got four under their belt? You need to stretch all the way back to the totally unconnected Nolan trilogy to get billion-dollar movies. And even then you only get two.

Remember how, using that trilogy, Batman is a twice-proven billion-dollar franchise, and yet combining him with Superman, who is unarguably the most recognizable superhero on the planet, the movie couldn't even crack a billion?

Things look even worse on the review side of things. Man of Steel was at best tolerated by critics and audiences. BvS and Suicide Squad were eviscerated by both, and rightly so.

You don't have the reviews, you don't have the box office draw, which likewise means that you don't have the popular draw. All you have is some meme about "kino" that utterly lacks any kind of provability.

Marvel isn't afraid of the DCEU. The only thing it's afraid of is that the popular desire for cape movies will die out before Infinity War, but even if it does, that will hurt the DCEU at least as hard as the MCU.

More to the point, the thing that's likely to kill the popular desire for cape movies is bad cape movies. Something that the DCEU has thus far demonstrated itself to be an expert at.

>>82824561
>Reshoots 5 months before the movie is out

How fucking retarded do you have to be to think this is anything but paid Marvel Disney shills trying to make the movie look bad early. This is the fakest of fake news.

>>82825211

checked

also, Batman & Robin is that kind of movie that's 'so bad it's good', it never tried to be anything but campy. JL on the other hand... I honestly want it to tank hard, to be the JUST of the year, and that's coming from someone who dearly loves Batman. After watching its trailers, I feel WB can't keep getting away with this steaming pile of shite, specially after the abomination that suicide skwad was

>>82826148

It's pretty depressing knowing there are people out there who unironically hold these opinions.

>>82827717
SHUT UP SHUT UP MARVELET
How much did Disney pay you to make that post huh? HOW MUCH?

I get bullied at school every single fucking day for being a DC fan. Marvel guys throw shit at me, they flushed my Limited edition Batman vs. Superman Movie Tie-In Comic Book down the toilet. One time they even said "Here's your Best Makeup Oscar" and then a bunch of the came all over my face.

Well it's going to stop. Justice League WILL be a hit, then it's all going to be great.

>>82825721

someone needs to glass hollywood to the ground, leave no survivors
this can't be real

END IT
END IT ALL

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>>82827750
DC is no where on Marvel's radar.

If anything their scoping out the competition over at 20th Century Fox since they just dropped one of the best capeshits of all time plus their incredible Planet of the Apes trilogy with Serkis.

>>82826635
These things get proven true time and time again.

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>>82826368

>BRMMMMMM

The moment BvS came out to universal 'meh's they lost all concept of what to do with this movie and never regained it

>>82827812
>there will come a time when it's illegal to be a DCuck
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Can't wait for the witch hunt, tbqh

FUCKING

STOP

AAAAGH

STOPRESHOOTINGTHINGS

JUST MAKE A FUCKING MOVIE FOR CHRIST'S SAKE

>>82827812
Dude. I hate the DCEU BECAUSE I'm a DC fan. I'm that boring kid at school who's favorite super hero is Superman. I despise what Warner Brothers and Snyder have turned him into, how they have completely missed the point of his character.

Snyder's like the kind of guy who listened to Bill's speech about Superman in "Kill Bill vol. 2" and took it at face value as being true, forgetting that the guy who was saying it was the villain of the franchise, an objectively terrible person who'd tried to kill his wife.

>>82827750
>implying that Disney has to lift a finger to make the DCEU look bad

>>82827772
I, too, love Batman & Robin in a "so bad it's good" sense. When watching it I like to pretend that the only live-action Batman prior to it was the 60s Batman TV series, and Batman & Robin was basically intended to be a 90s, "gritty" update to it. I mentally edit in the POW! WHAM! and so on.

Also I love Mr. Freeze's ice puns. I truly do.

>>82827834
>DC is no where on Marvel's radar.
This.
Which is a shame, because some decent competition would make both franchises good, or even great.

>>82826635
>It's proven fake
yeah, editing problems with bvs, big messy reshoots and trailer park cuts for skwad all this totally proven fake

>>82827834
And FX had Legion, which was great tv capeshit

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>>82824561
>they said that in the 17 months between the start of principal photography and the final cut arriving in theaters in November that the film will have essentially been “remade…twice.”
And Snyderfags will still argue that WB was right not to freeze production of JL following the reaction to BvS to make sure they had it right. They deserve the complete clusterfuck this movie is going to wind up being received as.

>>82824635
No shit. Of course it will be better. The only reason the reshoots are necessary is because the originals were clearly dogshit.

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>there will never be another DC film like MoS
Fuck WB

>>82825102
Ha, how many quips are they adding?

>>82825211
It should. That shot with Aquaman on the Batmobile looked straight out of the Schumacher movies. The only thing missing was the neon lighting.

>>82825029
This. I would rather see a movie that was genuinely flawed than one that got turned into a clusterfuck through executive meddling.

>>82827951

Whenever I'm channel surfing and I see that B&R's up, I end up watching it to the end. Schwarzenegger as Mr Freeze was the GOAT, it's cringy af but I love the puns, I just can't get enough. Any other actor would've made it unwatchable

>>82827548

fuking cunts. John Stewart's Green Lantern would be a much more solid choice for this movie, instead we got Lawnmower Man-tier CGI'd Cyborg. I honestly don't think anyone's really hyped for this movie, everyone seems so cautious and shit, and it's no surprise, since DC's last movies were pools of vomit

>>82826388
Fa/tv/irgins so desperate to defend their husbando they are defending him with El Mayshillbe who has had a mediocre at best track record on the DCEU

>>82826667
>How is Zack Snyder responsible for studio ordered reshots?
Because he clearly didn't do a good job filming the movie the first time. You know how Directors are the ones who decide if the cinematographer and actors were able to put together something on film that met the director's vision of the movie? Well, Snyder was satisfied with what he got, and when he took what he got to WB, the execs weren't.

>>82825211
You know, I watched Batman Forever and Batman & Robin for the first time in like, 15 years recently, and I have to say they're not nearly as bad as people make them out to be. They're pretty tongue-in-cheek about their campiness. As a kid I hated them because they were such a stark contrast to the Burton films which were my introduction to Batman, but looking back, there's inherently bad about them if you let them stand on their own. Well, except Uma Thurman. Bitch drags down every scene she's in.

And obviously I'm not saying this would absolve JL from being the same thing because that's clearly not the direction the films are trying to go in.

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>>82828170

I can already predict a gorillion quips coming out of that scene

>>82828284
>I'm not saying this would absolve JL from being the same thing because that's clearly not the direction the films are trying to go in.
Ironically, I think going for the tone of BaR might be perfect for a Justice League movie.

>>82825892
You know, I'm okay with the current DCEU, but I recognize that executive meddling is compromising pretty much every film in the wake of Suicide Squad...

But even if the whole thing crashes and burns, at least it then has the chance to be build into something else that could be great, wheres the MCU is pretty much forced to remain formulaic, mediocre shit or risk losing their mass appeal, which Disney would never allow at this point.

>>82826505
Who... cares? Seriously, why does it matter if they don't film at an actual location? I've never understood that.

>>82826148
This. I just wish the meddling had been less-apparent, even with his stuff. It's pretty clear they were forced in BvS to stave off the controversial reception MoS got, and it's even more apparent that JL was lightened up a ton in order to appease all the people that got triggered by how bleak BvS was.

>>82825306
More credible than any one of you.

Doesn't surprise me. After everyone missed the point of Batman v Superman while worthless shlock like Suicide Squad became a cultural phenomenon it's clear they're not gonna give Snyder and Terrio control over their movie. How dare they try to create something artistic? Let's rather have a bunch of second rate Batman villains run around a ruined city, cracking bad jokes and fighting a demon or something.

>>82827037
1.) Because Martian Manhunter is too campy, obscure, and similar to Superman
2.) He was in the JL comic reboot as of 2011
3.) His tech-based abilities actually make him a really useful member of the team in a modern setting
4.) He's pretty popular thanks to Teen Titans
5.) He's black

I'm not nuts about how he looks, but if the DCEU sticks around long enough to expand upon the bromance he had with Shazam in the recent comics, it will all be worth it.

>>82828199
>John Stewart's Green Lantern would be a much more solid choice for this movie
I agree, but Green Lantern is probably seen as box office poison. Also Cyborg's origin including the Mother Box makes him a more organic (kek) character to fit into the movie than taking time to properly introduce the concept of the Green Lantern Corps, which should rightly have its own film.

>>82826015
It means the script had major problems and the director has no vision.

You know the Rogue One reshoots were the Vader murder scenes, right? That turned out to be the ONLY scene that had ANY buzz. A fucking AFTERTHOUGHT.

>>82827772
>Batman & Robin is that kind of movie that's 'so bad it's good', it never tried to be anything but campy.
If it's trying to be camp, and succeeds in being camp, can you really call it "so bad it's good"? Wouldn't it just be "good", because it executed its concept correctly?

>>82826148
The bait is strong with this one.

>>82827926
Their own fault for butchering the theatrical cut so bad. I walked out of the theater giving it a C- at best, but the ultimate cut bumped it up to a B+/A-, easily.

>>82824561
clickbait bullshit.

>>82824635
Fucking. This.

>>82825306
Very. He just called Marvel films "Not funny. Stupid. Cheesy."

>>82824635
Does he have a history of this? It would ease my troubled heart to know...

>>82827443
Superman's never had a no-kill rule. He's killed Zod and fellow Kryptonians in ever incarnation he's ever had both before and after the Silver Age, maybe even then, not to mention that he absolutely did kill Doomsday.

It's just when it's anyone not on his level, he's got tons more options than just going for the kill.

>>82826148
I'm with you, man. I haven't been this hype for a trilogy since old-school Star Wars.

>>82826873
They burned through 30 years of great stories thanks to BvS.

>>82827362
Did Russians steal the election from Hillary, too?

>>82827717
This is pro.

>>82826723
Does the fact that all of the DCEU's films have made a sizeable profit matter at all to you?
I feel like it should

>>82824561
I don't think the WB wants to waste money over this anymore

6weeks of reshoots will cost billions more

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>>82827951
>I'm that boring kid at school who's favorite super hero is Superman. I despise what Warner Brothers and Snyder have turned him into, how they have completely missed the point of his character.

As you somewhere between 15 to 20 years in the future, I recommend you re-watch these movies. They didn't miss the point of the character. You missed the point of the films.

Think more visually. Think more symbolically. Think.

>>82827717
>How many times has /tv/ said that
these people are from /v, /vg/ and twitter
stop calling them us you scum

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>capeshit will die in your lifetime
Thank the Lord

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>>82824635
>Reshoots with Snyder means movie will be even better.

>>82824561
>QUIPS
>QUIPS
>QUIPS
>QUIPS

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>>82829007
>never
Not saying he's never killed, but he he has absolutely abstained from killing at times.

>>82829162
Marvel's films are still more profitable.
And don't even pretend BvS wasn't a massive disappointment to WB financially.

>>82829776
The original question was why would you want the DCEU to be like the MCU when the MCU is shit (regardless of the quality of the DCEU)?
Not, which franchise makes more money?

This doesn't answer this original question. A film being more profitable doesn't help the consumer at all.

>>82824561
almost all big budget blockbusters go through reshoots, it's just part of the process

Justice League will still be shit, though.

>>82826388
N-no you don't understand, that's El Maybe who's unreliable
Literally who Twitter source #45 is who we should REALLY be listening to

>>82827973
>, editing problems with bvs,
>trailer park cuts for skwad
These weren't rumored before the movie came out tho.

>>82829761
Like I said - Silver Age Superman might be the exception, but what's important to remember is that virtually no other Silver Age heroes killed, either. Any deaths were either presented as "tragic accidents" or criminals "choosing" death out of pride, incompetence/their own folly, with the hero unable to prevent it.

It was the height of the CCA restrictions that writers spent the better part of two decades mocking through the camp that pervaded most comics being made at the time.

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>>82824561
>PV is literally nothing but fighting swarms of CGI monsters with some quips in between

I'm expecting shit worse than Suicide Squad at this point.

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>>82830067
Have a more recent version then.

>>82826286
Was this ironic? Still cringed

>>82824580
>Batman has killed people in literally every movie ever made about him.
>People still act like Snyder making a movie with him killing people is somehow unique.

It does make me think...

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>>82829257
"I'm that boring kid in school" was hyperbole. I'm not in school, I'm 29. Soon to be 30.

>They didn't miss the point of the character.

They utterly and completely missed the point of the character, on every level.

>Think more symbolically.

Just because Snyder can throw in reams of Biblical imagery does not mean that he has made a deep movie, on any level.

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>>82827951
I too am a DC Comics fanboy who hates the DC film U.

Not that the comics are good lately either, New52 reboot shit and the Rebirth bandaid.

I'll just live my life in dreams of yesterday.

>>82830409
go back to bed, Max

>>82830556
>Batman has killed people in literally every movie ever made about him.

Yeah, but those tended to at least be otherwise good movies, which is significantly more than can be said for Batman v. Superman.

>>82831370
>Superman doesn't have a no kill rule. He only didn't kill in the Silver Age
>You're right. He doesn't have a rule. He simply avoids killing as a standard method of conflict resolution. Here is a modern panel of him confirming that he doesn't have a no kill rule, but refrains from killing on the whole
>IT DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE OF THE AUTHOR

>>82829980
El Maybe really is unreliable

>>82830409
I'm confused. Are you saying that him explicitly saying "Batman has a code against killing. I don't." is proof in support of you saying he never kills?

It was only a rumor that WW also had reshoots and then they just confirmed it a few weeks ago even though it happened 5 months before

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I want Bale back

>>82830067
Superman was cavalier in the Golden Age because everyone was. But the Silver Age is where most comic book characters got their characters truly defined. After the Silver Age, Superman has still generally done everything in his power to avoid killing people. More importantly, he goes to unbelievable lengths to ensure that there are no civilian casualties. His first priority when someone like Zod shows up is to get them OUT OF THE CITY.

I don't blame Superman for killing Zod in Man of Steel the way he did. I blame the writers for forcing him into such a stupid situation in the first place for the sake of cheap drama.

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>>82831296
>Snyderfags will reply that you are not inteligent enoguh to understand sybolism this shallow

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>>82831526
That might be symbolism, but it's not subtle.

You know what's subtle? Superman lifting an island of green-K that's almost certainly going to kill him, because if he doesn't sacrifice himself to remove it from the Earth then billions of people are going to die. In the end he lifts his burden and removes it from the Earth, but not before a jagged piece of kryptonite pierces his heart.

There. There's some Biblical symbolism without it being mind-numbingly blatant.

>>82825211
>Not funny. Stupid. Cheesy.
Then it succeeded to be like Marvel? I dont get it

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>>82831524
>I don't blame Superman for killing Zod in Man of Steel the way he did. I blame the writers for forcing him into such a stupid situation in the first place for the sake of cheap drama.
Yes. This anon gets it.
Goyer and Snyder are assholes for writing the character into a corner for lazy drama to play against the character.

>>82825355
>WB sticking their hand in and not letting the actual talent do the movie.
I would not be surprised at all if this were the case. I don't know how they haven't learned their lesson yet. You hire all these "creative types" to do your movie, let them be creative and do your movie.

Do the suits in the movie studios really have egos that big?

>>82827037
I honestly think they should have gone with either Jon Stewart as Green Lantern, or Static Shock.

They're already planning to make a Green Lantern Corps film, so DC obviously isn't afraid to use the character. The Corps has an obvious reason to send Stewart to Earth, as Darkseid is considered to be a threat to the universe in general. Not only that, but the Jon Stewart incarnation is the one most fans are familiar with, due to the Justice League cartoon.

Static Shock would hit two bird with one stone, drawing in fans who liked the 2000's cartoon AND younger audiences. Sure, you could say Erza Miller's Flash does this, but I feel like the comedic chemistry between Flash and Static would be god-tier banter. You could say something like "A Motherbox caused the Big Bang Incident in Dakota City, and all the Bang Babies are caused by Apokalyptian technology" or something. It wouldn't be too hard to tie in.

Sure, Cyborg was popular in Teen Titans, and sure his origin in the DCCU ties in rather nicely with the Darkseid storyline. However, his character isn't as defined; Titans Cyborg and comics Cyborg may as well be different characters.

Also, the CGI on Cyborg from the trailers looks like fucking trash.

>>82831617
I was making fun of Snyderfags defending this shit.

Though I also do not think Singer was that great with his Jesus metaphor eother. And his Super flick was full of its own problems.

>>82831485
No. I'm saying his saying he generally doesn't kill people is proof that his doing so is rare, and not something he allows himself to be forced to resort to when he needs to stop someone.

>>82824561
>making reshoots seem like an exclusively bad thing
I don't get this at all, and using Rogue One as an example is retarded because it ended up being an enjoyable movie despite all the reshoot drama

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>>82831799
>Zack Snyder
>talent

>>82831895
The article is using Rogue One as an example that it doesn't necessarily mean it's bad, dumbass

6 weeks of reshoots = digging a deeper hole.

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>Article states several times that it's not necessarily a bad thing
>DCucks still triggered in the comment section about "Anti-DC bias"

>>82824561
when will they learn.. They asked for this when they brought in snyder.

BRING IN THE QUIPS

>>82831859
I actually think that a mashup of Man of Steel and Superman Returns would be the ideal Superman movie.

1) It's still a reboot
2) Set the movie so that Superman has already been openly Superman for a few years now. People are still somewhat wary of him, but warming up to him.
3) Flashbacks can be used to go over Krypton's destruction, the death of Pa Kent BY HEART ATTACK, etc.
4) Make a few allusions to Luthor, but he's not in the movie.
5) Zod and the Kryptonians show up for reasons outlined in MoS, which plays out basically like MoS, except that Lois isn't immediately rescued from them. Superman is badly injured.
6) Krpytonians move ahead with their xenoforming plan, only instead of a giant spider and gravity machine it's the island-growing stuff.
7) Superman, while injured, goes to the growing island and battles it out with the Kryptonians, who are starting to gain superpowers. The island has all sorts of mountains and canyons and stuff so there can be immense destruction shown, but no one actually lives there so there isn't thousands of deaths.
8) Lois (with help from holographic Jor-El why not) opens the Phantom Zone Projector in space. Having subdued the Kryptonians, Superman starts to lift the island to throw it into the portal, and manages to do so (Lois getting away in an escape pod or something). The portal starts to slowly close.

What scenes were reshot for Rogue One? They weren't as noticeable as F4.

>>82832411
>They weren't as noticeable as F4.

Because they reshot 80% of the movie

>>82832397

9) A WILD ZOD APPEARS. Wasn't sucked into the portal (which is established to be one-way), starts duking it out with Superman in the sky as Lois' pod falls out of control. Superman has to split time between trying to save Lois and trying to stop Zod, which means Zod has the upper hand even though Superman is MUCH stronger (due to years of absorbing yellow sunlight rather than days).
10) Lois' pod is safely set down in the ocean somewhere, Superman can turn his full attention on Zod. The fight goes up into space. Zod promises that he will do all sorts of terrible things to Earth, seriously injured Superman somehow (maybe he has a Kryptonite knife?), but Superman still pushes him into the Phantom Zone just as the portal closes.
11) Superman falls to Earth, lands near Metropolis, is taken to a hospital but the people there can't do anything to save him because he's invulnerable (a la the scene in Returns)
12) We see millions of people watching on TV or crowding around the hospital hoping to learn if Superman is alright - people finally trust him. Lois visits his comatose form in the hospital.
13) 3 days later, Superman is mysteriously absent from the hospital, at least until he shows up at some disaster to help prevent it.
14) Movie closes with him flying into space with the sun in the background, smiling at the camera.
15) John William's Superman March plays for the first time in the movie during the ending scene and credits, letting us know that while this is a reboot, it's still following in the traditions of its predecessors.

>>82827404
27%? If this were a quality movie there'd be more positive ratings surely?

>>82831524
Didn't you see him try? Zod had no interest in chasing him anywhere. Zod was going to take it back to a population center every chance he got, because his goal wasn't killing Clark. It was getting killed *by* him.

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>>82831617
Yeah, real subtle of Singer, right?

Shallow symbolism is when it only tells you what the director wants you to think about the characters. More artful symbolism is when it's there to tell you what the *characters* are thinking.

Here endeth the lesson.

>>82832504 >>82832397
Oh, the sequel involves Braniac, who is coming to Earth because he had intended to assimilate the technology and knowledge of Krypton (which is more advanced than his own), but reached the planet just as it exploded and after only assimilating a single city (Kandor). The explosion badly damaged Braniac's ship and Braniac himself, so he's spent most of the past few decades repairing it, then heading towards Earth, since Superman is now the only source of Kryptonian knowledge and technology.

Kind of similar to what Zod and the Kryptonians wanted in the first one, unfortunately, but it's the only way I can think of to meaningfully involve Braniac without doing something stupid like making him be developed on Earth. Maybe the thing that sets this movie apart is that we include some of the other Justice League members in major roles. Wonder Woman, perhaps.

We meet Luthor for the first time and establish that he's an asshole and has already had a few run-ins with Superman, but Luthor doesn't himself do anything in the movie. Except maybe hijack some of Braniac's technology.

The first Justice Leauge movie is Starro the Conqueror, not Darkseid. Jesus fuck who's idea was it to skip straight to Darkseid and Apokalips. Where do you GO from there?

The third Superman movie is Luthor being Luthor and doing Luthor-type things. Maybe a rough parallel of his plan in All-Star Superman (gaining superpowers for himself), except without him being in jail or a known criminal at the start. Superman beats him, of course.

The second Justice League movie is Doomsday, because at this point Superman has finally been around long enough to justify killing him for audience shock value.

The third Justice Leauge movie is Darkseid and Apokalips. Superman returns in it.

There, look, I'm a better writer than anyone in the DCEU.

>>82831875
Yeah, which in no way contradicts what he's been shown doing in the movies so far.

>>82825109
I hate Marvel and their Temp music, but honestly Skrillex and that other literally who nigger are even worst.

>>82832794
>Yeah, real subtle of Singer, right?

I don't know whether or not this was sarcasm, but I actually will say that it was certainly more subtle than anything Snyder pulled off. Superman in Superman Returns has the space Jesus pose, yes, but only after letting go of the island of green-K and starting to fall. It's a natural pose for someone to end up in, presuming that they had just lifted an island and carried it into space.

Whereas Snyder has Superman just lift his arms up into a cross pose and fall for no apparent reason other than to hit us over the head with a +5 Holy Hammer.

>>82832935
Read the rest of the post, mongoloid.

for any thread that mentions WB : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWnWwN1z_UM

>>82829257
>I-it's too deep for you to understand
>T-think more symbolically

Oh yeah? Are the clumsy Jesus references and allusions to King Arthur really high art for you? Do they really tickle your philosophical prostate? Do you wish there were fewer chads in your film discussion seminar at uni so you could actually talk to the qts about "kino"?

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>>82833138
Not particularly, but the Apollo allusions sure did.

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>>82833138
>>82833270

So did the ones for Horus and other sun/light deities.

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>>82833138
>>82833270
>>82833314

All there to drive home a thene first introduced all the way back at the beginning of Man of Steel - under the right circumstances, anything can become a god, even science. Anything can become an object of worship.

When people look at Clark, they interpret him through their own filter - sometimes a savior deity, sometimes a sun deity, sometimes a sky deity. Lex mentions three other examples by name.

>>82832834
So the comics guy saying that he rarely does the thing the movie version has either done or verbalized being willing and prepared to do against his most frail foe no less every time he's gotten into a conflict that was resolved with fists isn't contradictory?

>>82832859
>Literally who
>Kendrick lamar

>>82825102
>This is common with literally every blockbuster you fucking try-hard
Its not common to completely remake an entire act, retard.

Usually its with action scenes alone.

>>82833567
>against his most frail foe no less

Who would that be - the guy who just pushed his girlfriend off a rooftop that he specifically says he's not going to hurt, although it's more than he deserves, or the guy he's being blackmailed into killing, but begrudgingly admits he might have to in order to save his own mother?

>>82824561
http://batman-news.com/2016/06/28/batman-v-superman-3-hours-warner-bros-no/

You guys have to rememeber, Warner Bros. executives gave the Ultimate Edition of Batman v Superman a standing ovation, but then proceeded to tell Snyder to cut 30 minutes out of his movie.

Batman V Superman and Suicide Squad's production cycles are proof that it's actually Warner Bros' fault. I think most agree the Ultimate Edition was fine enough and definitely a step up from the theatrical cut.

Point is, quit blaming Snyder. Warner is interfering and there's proof of this.

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>>82828116
Its really sad that the DCEU has gotten so bad, people have romanticized Man of Steel.

>>82833798
>every time he's gotten into a conflict that was resolved with fists
Did he toss hands at Lex at any point in BvS?
Yes, I was talking about Batman. Zod and Doomsday both took hits. If Batman's head ever caught one of those punches it'd go flying. Not saying he isn't competent. Just frail compared to the others.

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>>82829257
>this entire post

>>82833838
>quit blaming snyder for being incompetent
Even his non-capeshit is terrible. Look at fucking Sucker Punch

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>>82831296
>I'm 29. Soon to be 30.
>>82827951
>Dude. I hate the DCEU BECAUSE I'm a DC fan. I'm that boring kid at school who's favorite super hero is Superman. I despise what Warner Brothers and Snyder have turned him into, how they have completely missed the point of his character.

>>82832504
>Fanwank the movie
I'd rather stick with MoS ir do something entirely new. People need to stop Rising Donner's cock and actually make a movie about Superman.

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>>82834451
Sucker Punch is a pleb filter
...soz

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>>82824561
here comes the suicide squad edit

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>>82824561
JUST QUIP MY SHIT UP FAMILIA

>>82826501
Ben Affleck wants out of life altogether.

what would /tv/'s oppinion on BvS if it ended with Batman spearing superman's chest and realizing he fucked up when talking to lex?wonder woman handles doomsday, she was having fun during the fight

Man I can't wait for WB's DCEU Justice League™ Ultimate Extended Original Director's Vision DVD for only $99.99 pre-order today and get 6 DLC cameos for free.

>>82835313
what would /tv/'s opinion on BvS if it ended with Superman telling that to Zod's snapped neck?

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>>82827037
My fetish is people wearing leotards that don't wrap around their groin completely. Like this. So that Supergirl is hawt af desu famalam.

>>82831969
>Article was stated that it's fake
>Company war faggots still post like it's been confirmed.

>>82835508
>Article was stated that it's fake

>can't even write
>and is a liar

>>82824561

>apparently
>according
>this is a rumor
>Still, they could be wrong, but considering the timeline

How is this a news?

>>82831800
The problem is those guys aren't characters, either. They are just costumea and powers. DC characters have no personality. And Watchmen ain't DC proper, so don't even try.

>>82835536
it's bullshit, buddy. Just give up and stop embarrassing yourself.
>>82826388

>>82832411
The Vader murder scene is a reshoot. Originally he killed Krinnic or whatever in the end.

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>>82826388
Blatant reminder that Marvel and Disney shills continue to go out of their way to make their competitor look like shit in anyway possible.

>>82835836
>implying anyone, let alone Disney needs to spend a cent helping the DCEU kill itself.

>>82835836
>go out of their way to make their competitor look like shit in anyway possible.
But WB is already making the franchise look like shit, Disney doesn't need to do anything.

>>82831799
>Do the suits in the movie studios really have egos that big?
Its not ego, they're protecting a half billion dollar investment. They answer to a board of directors, shareholders, and investors.
You don't make tentpole movies with budgets like that to break even.

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>>82835654
>>82826388

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>>82835654
>>82826388
>>82836814
You can trust the site that learned about the Rogue One reshoots, or you can trust this guy

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>>82836928

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>>82824561
Hope they'll add some scenes of Flash getting pounded into the floor. That's the only thing that'd get me interested in this shitshow.

if they reshoot it does this mean that they will make cyborg look more like cyborg and less like iron man

>>82825306
>Jan 9
>Second trailer comes out
>Not funny, cheesy, stupid

Yup

>>82834036
Jesus Christ.

>>82826286
Cringed

>>82824561
and yet they put Rogue One on a pedestal

but sure there is no bias or shilling, none of that shit, NONE. AT. ALL.

>>82825176
>WB movies are too serious, they're ashamed of the source
>Wait they're too cheesy and silly, it's bad! It's bad!
WB will never win

>>82838223
It's almost like demanding to be taken seriously through 3 movies might lead to tonal whiplash when you try dropping quips That feel out of place in the shared world you've been building.

>>82824580

Michael Keaton's 1989 Batman was essentially a serial killer and that was the best screen Batman ever.

When 90% of us are in the joke of making fun of DC it stops being fun.

>>82825306
He revealed a lot of the plot problems with Suicide Squad a week before it came out.

>>82826286
Cringe

So it's only 50% true: they haven't done reshoots, but they will

>“There has been no additional photography to date on ‘Justice League.’ We have planned and will shoot additional pickups early summer”

http://www.thewrap.com/p1638667/

>>82832859
>literally who
>Kendrick
Get the fuck out of here, dude

>>82831508

They're idiots for ever letting that franchise end. I want fucking kevin spacey back as luthor. That was the tits. A spacey and bale scene as luthor and wayne? Fuck....we were robbed.

>>82832935

You do know that the island of kryptonite was made with Jor-El's crystals, symbolizing God's word being turned into the corrupt Catholic Church. The end was basically Superman taking lifting the Catholic Church and throwing it at the heavens.

Fuck, you even Lex posing as Rome/Pope piercing Superman's left side much like Christ and later Superman resurrecting three days later.

>>82824580
Delet!