What went so right?

>>82817561
>The director
>the setting
>Mads
>Eva Green
>not gadget focused

>>82817561
The torture scene :)

That was HOT AS FUCK

Actually attempting to recreate the dark tone of the book

This is probably one of my top James Bond flicks

It just really pins down what and who James is to me. It nails the cool, suave, martini drinker. But it also showed him being a more interesting conflicted character as well.

>>82817561
Stuck to the plot of the novel fairly closely (albeit with more action scenes)

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>>82817644
Name your top 5 Bond films RIGHT now

>>82817687
Not him but
Thunderball
OHMSS
Goldeneye
The Spy Who Loved Me
Casino Royale

I do like all of them besides one

>>82817561
nothing it was boring as fuck

>>82817615
>>82817588

These. Also why pretty much every James Bond before and after it was so pedestrian.

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>>82817720
>Thunderball

Name the one you don't like

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>mfw spectre

>>82817561
The entire poker scene I think really captured what James Bond is.

>suave motherfucker who wears a tux and finds himself in exotic locales
>kills some dudes on a break, gets some clean clothes and then drinks some booze and he's back at it
>gets himself in some shit and almost dies
>comes back to the table like nothing happens and wins the pot
>enjoys a celebratory fine meal and another cocktail

>>82817687
In order from #5-1

5) Casino Royale
4)Goldeneye (This one was my first so I've got a softspot for it desu)
3)Thunderball
2) From Russia With Love
1) Goldfinger

Love me some Connery

>>82817744
Die another day

>>82817561
What went right? Simple: same director from Goldeneye.

They seriously just need to pay the dude like 500 million to direct all the Bond movies till he dies.

>>82817748
>and skyfall

>>82817947
I thought I was going to be in to the whole "James has nothing and now they have to scrape together with nothing" fight near the end there, but it really fell flat for me.

>>82817561
They copied Bourne

>>82818007
it was so fucking boring. and so "not bond". he is resourceful yes but i dont watch a bond movie for the feel of a last stand in a ww2 movie.

>>82817803
>no ohmss

cmon

>>82817859
>tfw you find out this guy also directed green lantern
what the fuck

>>82817779
very true. i dont think they even came close to anything like that in the following movies

>>82817561
>Edgy before edgy was a meme
>Great stunts
>Great opening song
>Great Bond girl
>Great villain
>Excellent opening
>Excellent ending
>Best actor to play Bond

Unironically my favourite Bond film.

>>82818007
Who would have thought putting James Bond in a Home Alone sequel was a good idea?

Aright, heres the idea:

>the first half will be James Bond tracking the most dangerous man on earth across the globe
>THEN, we reveal that the villains master plan is to run into a courtroom and shoot at M with a pistol
>followed by the epic conclusion where we will remove all the likeable elements from a Bond film and have James, and two senior citizens, fight goons with a combination lightbulbs and the bleakness of the Scottish moorlands

>>82818138
Yeah Im always amazed at how fucked some directors IMDB is. Brian Helgeland followed up Payback with A Knights Tale. George Miller directed all the Mad Max movies AND Happy Feet.

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>>82818218
>best actor to play Bond

>>82818325
funnily enough I was just responding to another thread about how Happy Feet was originally going to be much more Miller esque. Here's that comment if anyone is interested

Well, it was a George Miller flick so (and this is Tvtropes but I've found many other sources that can prove that the original was to be this way) it was going to be a LOT different

"Revised Ending: An early cut of the film involved a subplot regarding actual extraterrestrial aliens, whose presence was made gradually more and more known throughout. The aliens were planning to siphon off the planet's resources gradually, placing the humans in the same plight as the penguins. At the end, thanks to Mumbles, their hand is stayed, and instead first contact is made. This was chopped out during the last year of production, and has yet to see the light of day in a finished form. There is proof in the form of concept art, and this dropped plot helps explain the outer space motif that remains in the film. The film would've been somewhat longer, by extension.

This is further confirmed by the release of an early, undated draft of the screenplay, which includes the above mentioned ending, as well as an even darker tone - confirming that, among other things, the film was originally and unequivocally aimed at much narrower age-bracket, rather than the all-embracing tone of the finished film. The characters all curse like sailors, and the famine subplot is even further examined, along with the penguin society and religion, various character name changes and a much more eclectic soundtrack, featuring The Who, The Ramones, Iggy Pop and later-era Beatles, in place of what would become John Powell's orchestral soundtrack. You can find it here."

along with the script http://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Happy-Feet.html

>>82818369
Not bait. Connery is the best Bond, but Craig is a far better actor.

>>82818227
Yeah, sadly it was stupid. I really like the idea of stripping Bond of all his resources in one of the modern movies. It could have been done much much better, and way cooler. The way it is now it seems more like pandering to older folks as a way for 'them to fight with bond!' and it came off really stupid and, as you said, boring.

>>82818420
Oh. Got ya. Thats different.

Was the drop off from Casino Royale to QOS the most dissapointing thing in the franchise? It actually hurt me how bad QOS was. Like LOTR vs the Hobbit flicks

>>82817803
no reason to degrade Goldeneye's spot at number 4 by claiming nostalgia. most would agree that it belongs in or near the top 5

>>82818504
It's not even the best Brosnan flick

>>82818517
not even good b8

>>82818517
literally the only good one

>>82818487
no because skyfall and spectre dropped off harder than quantum even did

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Best Bond coming through

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>>82818438
The exact point where I dropped the movie mentally was the courtroom scene. Bardem, moments before, LAUNCHED A FUCKING TRAIN at Bond using his l33t haxor skills. All so he would have enough time to bust in, fire two shots at Dame Judie Dench, and run away in a goofie disguise. The whole point of the female character that Bardem killed was to exposit that he was the most cunning, most powerful, most dangerous foe on the planet. Then we get pic related like some shit out an episode of Get Smart

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>>82818590
>the living daylights

>>82818562
>>82818573
The World Is Not Enough is the best Pierce flick

>>82818606
Yeah that whole 'mastermind' shit was very extremely badly done I agree. It was just some of the dumbest shit to watch, I felt like I was watching some kind of CW show when all that started happening.

>>82818585
Pretty interesting opinion. What did you like about QOS over the other two? Solace did have an awesome beginning to be fair.

>>82818630
only the 2nd best, and that isn't saying much since the other two were either laughable or nonsensical

>>82818630(you)

>>82818487
>Was the drop off from Casino Royale to QOS the most dissapointing thing in the franchise?
It was bad, but I think the dropoff from Goldfinger to Thunderball was worse. Thunderball was atrocious.
The biggest increase in quality was obviously Die Another Day to Casino Royale.

>>82818227
>Who would have thought putting James Bond in a Home Alone sequel was a good idea?
It was straw dogs you stupid underage fuck.

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>GOOOOOOOOooooollllldenEEEEYE

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1.) From Russia With Love
2.) Goldfinger
3.) Casino Royale
4.) Goldeneye
5.) The Spy Who Loved Me

/thread

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>>82818788
>/threading yourself

The ugliest bond would have the best movie

>>82818715
Agreed. But License to Kill to Goldeneye is a pretty big jump

Anyone else have a spot in their heart for Moonraker? I loved that shit as a kid. Wonderfully goofy. Oddly had the best romance in any Bond movie IMO (Jaws and whoever girl)

>>82818901
Moore is usually a required taste, I like all of his Bond films though, even A View to A Kill

>>82818901
best of the goofy roger moore movie by an absolute mile. plus it had this gem of a scene

https://youtu.be/KWlmUHjuQRo

I never liked Bond movies as a kid, Thought they were boring when I catched some on TV.

Casino Royale was the first one that I truly loved. The power fantasy is perfect, there is Mads, Eva and poker.

Casino Royale and Skyfall are the only good James Bond films, you are unable to refute this

>>82817687
NOT HIM
but I'll indulge the dumb frogposter;

From Russia With Love
Goldfinger
License to Kill
Goldeneye
Casino Royale

1 licence to kill
2 casino royale
3 goldeneye and goldfinger

also quantum is better than skyfall and spectre

>>82819004
that was actually pretty close to my list as well

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>>82818924
I think Moore was a little grandpa-ish, even though I always thought he was dapper and smooth as hell. Watching him in ANY action scene makes you suspend belief.

>>82818928
Moonraker is the Gremlins 2 of Bond movies. Minus the cynisism.

1. Peter Dinklage was a neat villain
2. Spawned the coolest weapon in the Goldeneye game (other than twin KLOBBs)
3. James fucked a girl while in orbit

>>82817687
>Moonraker
>Moonraker
>Moonraker
>Moonraker
>Moonraker

>>82819036
>quantum is better than skyfall and spectre

100% this

>>82819036
The first time I saw QoS I hated it, but upon rewatching it before Skyfall came out I enjoyed it much more and when watching Skyfall after, pretty much everything after they capture Bardem was disappointing. I haven't even seen Spectre yet.

>>82819136
I haven't seen Spectre, is it even worth watching at this point? I was so disappointed with Skyfall that I just didn't have any interest in the next film

>>82819158
The Spawn-quality CGI komodo dragon didnt bother you?

>>82819201
Just watch it. Has fun parts but is just....meh. Mexico scene is fun. Christopher Waltz phoned it in though which sucked.

Ive watched a good number of movies just so I can talk about them. Most recent example was Mullholland Dr.

Tfw \tv today is right and loves the best James Bond movie.

I think one of the best things was the pacing.

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>>82819201
just watch it

>>82819136
>>82819036
>also quantum is better than skyfall and spectre
Worst fucking bait ever

>>82819262
Spectre had perfect pacing. To me it was actually short in few places and I wanted me with how much I enjoyed it.

I rewatched it other day and DAMN I love that movie!

Casino > Spectre > Skyfall > Quantum

>>82819256
>>82819269
aight I'll give it a go. So long as it has some fun stuff.

>>82819298
wanted more*

seriously it's a great paced movie with a perfect Bond performance

Quantum is one of the worst Bond movies due to there being no humor, movie has horrible edit cutting and it has the worst villain

>>82819262
Agreed.

>fun opening chase
>dialogue
>sexy-ass Eva Green
>spy shit and action
>dialogue and spy shit
>gambling and booze
>drama
>action
>showdown with villain
>plot resolution
>comfy beach-side dialogue
>END

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>>82819307
>So long as it has some fun stuff.
That's what I really liked about it

>>82819317
>muh quips

>>82817687
Goldeneye was kino.

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How did they get away with this in a PG 13 movie?

>>82817687
Casino Royale. The Living Daylights. All others are garbage.

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Can we all agree that this is one of the worst Bond movies? Nothing but bland action
It has nothing that makes the movie special. Just a boring late 90's cheesy action flick. Spectre is INCREDIBLY better than this

>>82819457
Worst Bond girls ever

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>>82817748
Spectre was truly something spectacular.
Chase scene in Rome was hyped up but he just talked to Moneypenny on the phone and forced an old man into a lamp post. The chase scene in the Alps was similarly shit. However, it was still pretty good until Blofeld kindly invited Bond to his ebin crater lair after Bond just decided to wait in a station in the middle of the desert for Blofeld to send a chauffeur to pick him up. It would have made much more sense for Batista to have defeated them both on the train then brought there, instead of wasting time with a pointless scene and rushing a romantic subplot.
Everything Blofeld did in the lair was laughable, the rows of henchmen in the dark room filled with screens just seemed like parody. Then Blofeld decides to reveal his absolutely dogs hit backstory and tortures Bond, doing absolutely ZERO damage. They missed perfectly good chances to show a vulnerable Bond after he gets the shit beaten out of him on the train and lobotomised.
The final battle in London was of similar quality. Once again, Blofeld decides to waste his time and resources by redecorating then blowing up a abandoned building, as well as taking Bond prisoner in order to lure him there. Then we get a contrived "rescue the girl" situation, which he ruins by hovering his helicopter directly outside where he locked her up. Finally, he makes his escape, but his pilot doesn't seem to be able to know the way without following the river, nor does he notice Bond shooting at them with a pistol. The fact that he manages to shoot them down is even more ridiculous.
I know that the writing team had staffing issues, but surely they could have come up with anything better than this shit.

>>82819525
Spectre is way better than Tomorrow Never Dies and Quantum

>>82819210
I had completely forgotten that part existed actually.

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>>82819457
WHAT the fuck happened?

How could they fuck up Brosnan's Bond when GoldenEye was 10/10 perfect with its pacing and then this one gets made and it is so bad?

They literally left out everything that made GoldenEye so special when making this

>>82819348
The drama was just one part, totally. The "ego" theme goes through the whole movie and resolves in the end, but is not focused on entirely. While in the latest Bond movies its like watching an arts student attempting at drama, was tedious.

>>82819545
Never said it wasn't, just saying that it was a massive wasted opportunity.

>>82819317
Dude WATER lmao

The best is objectively Diamonds are Forever.

>>82819640
>just saying that it was a massive wasted opportunity.
Well yeah Spectre has many scenes that I would improve but I still really enjoyed it for what it was

>>82818667
how do you get a shot like that?

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>>82819826
Moving the camera fast on 1 of these track things

>>82819136
agreed, I enjoyed quantum shamelessly and it had the hottest bond girls of all of them.

strawberry fields and prime olga kurylenko

>>82819826
the camera is on rails

>>82819317
quantum was too realistic for normies, they dont realize the villains plot is atually basic economics and thats why its boring.

no weird technology,just hard science.

It was an eco themed movie

I enjoyed it as bond is clearly just getting over his dead girlfriend, and the mission is just what hes doing between drinks.

I liked seeing bond become mgtow at the end

>>82819525
>parody and homage were clearly buzzwords in the writers room.

They were easily rebooting Austin Powers towards the end after the train fight.

>>82819975
>they dont realize the villains plot is atually basic economics and thats why its boring.

I've been saying this since it came out. People say the villains were boring but they are some of the most realistic in terms of what they want and how they are trying to achieve it, that's what I liked about it.

Also based angry Felix.

>>82817561
copy Jason Bourne, and pander to feminists and nu-males

Best suave bond:
Sean Connery

Best murderous badass bond:
Pierce Brosnan

Best complex, emotionally deep bond:
Timothy Dalton

Blonde, balding, old, implied-homosexual, alcoholic, crybaby pussy:
Daniel Craig

Wait, why is everyone hailing spectre and skyfall as the worst as if quantum of solace doesn't exist?

>>82820688
he l lo red dit

>>82820715
Because its cool to like Quantum now.

/TV/'s ladyboner for mads and normal boner for Eva green are both tugged off to completion by this movie

>>82820688
>pierce brosnan
>badass

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>>82817561
Probably the cast and aesthetics of the film itself. It wasn't too over the top like some bond films in the past. (Brosnan era). I will admit I'm not a very big Bond fan... or even that of films that are based around gambling. There have only been a few gambling films over the years that I've enjoyed. Maverick with Based Mel, Rounders with Damon, 21 with Spacey and then this. Overall it felt like a good starting point to introduce Craig as the new Bond while adding the high class society often associated with 007 agents without being too overblown.

>>82821318
Yeah that's right, more than the other Bonds

Saw it in theaters, it was the first bond film I ever watched. It had me from the badass opening parkour chase scene in the madagascar construction site.

>>82821719
Brosnan has the best quips, that's all.

>>82819457
Eat a fart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH85zxU4tqU

>>82818704

>You will never get to """""accidently""""" cop a feel of eva greens glorious tits while shooting a cpr scene

Seriously fuck this timeline

>>82818704
Holy Shit. They kept jiggling for 2 full seconds after he let go!

>>82818851
Licence to Kill is true Bondkino

>>82819717
That's one of the worst though

>>82817561
Those camera shots were way better than what I expected back then.

Just realised we've actually been talking about movies. This thread is awesome.

Gonna watch The Spy Who Loved Me today

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>>82817720
>>82817803
>>82818788
>>82819004
>>82819085

>no mention of skyfall

>>82826603
Skyfall was garbage

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Why does everyone hate his Bond?

>>82819307
its better than skyfall. thats for sure.

>>82828875
dude can get pretty goofy, nonsensical, and pretty much not-bond at times. he also looks by far the oldest, and couldn't do much of his stunts which makes him even less convincing as bond. octopussy has pretty much all the elements that people don't like.

>>82828875
because the writers were insistent on portraying him as a literal clown, also was an old geezer pushing 60 by the end of it

when he was given good material he was a great Bond, though. Spy Who Loved Me is revered as one of the best films in the franchise for a reason

>>82818028
They even had the same fight coordinator. The cool hotel fight where the guy comes busting in from the first Bourne movie was copied in Quantum of Solace.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFnmq5PPScA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7kFoR4m1Y0

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Themes

1. Goldfinger https://youtu.be/6D1nK7q2i8I
2. The Spy Who Loved Me https://youtu.be/Wy-c8aAntWA
3. Casino Royale https://youtu.be/A1AMUmkj-ck
4. Live and Let Die https://youtu.be/b07Z_qfchFk
5. The World Is Not Enough https://youtu.be/LzvNDR5OrqM
6. Skyfall https://youtu.be/_4gdhsVKTcs
7. For Your Eyes Only https://youtu.be/Id08vsWjT2c
8. On Her Majesty's Secret Service https://youtu.be/LfjL9uX2leg (instrumental kino)
9. The Man with The Golden Gun https://youtu.be/PSbj2Mx2By8
10. Diamonds Are Forever https://youtu.be/ZwbEuzJCnqI
11. A View to a Kill https://youtu.be/hWVbVT3igdw
12. Tomorrow Never Dies https://youtu.be/SDe1xi4tGUA
13. Thunderball https://youtu.be/sT0x7QiJI1g
14. You Only Live Twice https://youtu.be/Q_w4DVgvVHs
15. Goldeneye https://youtu.be/qGPBFvDz_HM
16. License To Kill https://youtu.be/Ju_by-sC79c
17. Moonraker https://youtu.be/gt3oQN0cAv0
18. The Living Daylights https://youtu.be/y9p0FJnk2vM
19. Octopussy https://youtu.be/Md8uNCYX_Nc
20. Die Another Day https://youtu.be/xoJXh88SzD8
21. Quantum of Solace https://youtu.be/RUHD0cdQmko
22. Spectre https://youtu.be/kmIcsr6Q8bU