Well, are they right?

>>82798950
Yes.

>>82798930
Yes but since it's Cracked they're also wrong at the same time.

I have to agree, if the movie was all about the training, it'd be a lot better. Show that the Vietnam War started way before for the characters.

>>82798983
>>82799036
Spotted plebeians.

I love epic Drill Sargent Man!

>>82798930
No. Second half is just as good

>>82798930
Most memorable scene in the second half is the hooker part

>>82799117
>not the sniper scene
>not the mickey mouse ending scene

>>82798930
Second half is pleb filter.

>>82798930
Yes.
I watched it for the vietnam footage, stayed for the training.

>>82799159
>Not well disciplined VC

Pleb opinion

>>82798930

how fucking plebian can you get

FMJ second half is kino overload

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>>82798983
>>82799036
>>82799076
M'lady

>>82798930
I remember watching it for the first time and being stunned that the movie didn't end after the basic training part. I was already completely satisfied at that point.

obviously the second half is great cinematography but its a fucking boring disjointed story that feels especially weak when the first half was one strong and focused storyline

>>82798930
The second half wasn't good film, but had tons of good and/or memorable moments.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iH5R4tgGdDk

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A4BuQMJEKHw

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S06nIz4scvI

>>82799326
What the fuck? Is that a ghost?

>>82799353
You'd better get your head and your ass wired together, or I will take a giant shit on you.

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>>82799353
>first half was one strong and focused storyline
military training is strong and focused

>fucking boring disjointed story
war is mostly fucking boring and disjointed

>>82799463
>it's supposed to be shit! You have to like it because it's self aware

>>82799463
>boring on purpose!!!!

I like the second half. It's less glory but just the dumb bullshit the whole war was. Also Animal Mother.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txGegkyZ5cs

>>82799437
It's supposed to unnerve you when noticed. I've seen this movie 3 times before somebody pointed that moment to me.
Fucking Kubrick, truly master of his craft.

>>82799076
or if vietnam scenes were intercut with training scenes in flashback form..

>>82799509
>>82799492
No no no, the events are boring. I still was able to enjoy it and if YOU think that it was boring you should stop taking amphetamines.

>"DUDE LE EPIC CUSSING DRILL SERGEANT LMAO!"

>retards only focus on the meme part of the movie and want to forget about the war theme part

>>82798930
The second part is fine but the fact that its preceded by the absolutely stellar first half makes it seem worse than it is

>>82799492
It's a jungian thing.

>>82798930
uh, no

>>82799640
>WAR IS BAD
truly a visionary...
ahead of his time...

>>82798930
The best scene in the film is the mickey mouse song scene
prove me wrong

Honestly, I've never seen the second half all the way through in one sitting, just bits and pieces. I've seen the first half more times than I can count though. You get a satisfying beginning, middle, and end, and I'm just mentally ready to be done when Pyle caps himself.

>>82799688
These are great days we're living, bros. We are jolly green giants, walking the Earth with guns. These people we wasted here today are the finest human beings we will ever know. After we rotate back to the world, we're gonna miss not having anyone around that's worth shooting.

YOU TALK THE TALK, BUT DO YOU WALK THE WALK?

>>82799640
>war theme part

You mean the anti-war message that every war movie since the 60s has had?

YOU KEEP SAYING

>>82798930
>the prostitute scene
>the sniper scene

>>82799437
its a guy with bandages on his face you autistic moron

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SOME FOLKS ARE BORN MADE TO WAVE THE FLAG
OOOOH THEY'RE RED WHITE AND BLUE

>>82798930
>completely forgettable
ME RUV YOU WRONG TIME

the second half was best

>>82799861
Every pro-war movie is also anti-war.
Every anti-war movie is also pro-war.
No exceptions.

>>82799957
i completely agree

I am a big fan of Kubrick but he really dropped the ball on this one

2nd half is garbage

>>82798930
>Marines
>Basic Training
Bravo, AuntieMeme.

>>82798930
>Animal Mother
>"Me love you long time"
>Mickey Mouse
>"Better you than me"
>Sniper scene
>Soldier interviews

Probably more that I can't think since it's been a few years. But no, the second half is great

i love watching /tv/ be contrarian ON PURPOSE simply because there is a picture online

The whole film is great, but the first half is so iconic and constantly referenced by other media, that when I watch it now I actually enjoy the second half more.

Fuck cracked though, seriously

>>82799372
The way Animal Mother pauses and smiles when he says "little Vietnamese" instead of gooks is great.

And Eightball's line is best quote in the film about the war.

"It's like they took away our freedom and gave it to the gookers. They don't want it. They'd rather be alive alive than free. Poor, dumb bastards."

This seen also had the funniest line in the film.

"If you ask me, we're shooting the wrong gooks."

>>82798930
The sniper scene was memorable, so no.

>>82798930
The second half isn't forgettable, it just strikes a lot of people as off because it transitions from a straight forward story about a group of privates in basic training to a series of vignettes set in the context of the Vietnam war
It works well, and there's a lot of great stuff in the second half, it just gets overshadowed because the first half is essentially it's own movie, and almost makes the second half feel like a sequel

>>82799652
I think this pretty much sums it up. If I start it at the second half I don't get bored of it but if I watch from the beginning then I can my enjoyment does go down during the second half.

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>>82798930
Not when you have

>TATATATATATATATATATA
>HAHAHA
>TATATATA
>GET SOME HAHA
>TATATATATATATATA
>GET SUM
>TATATATATA
>GET SOM HAHA
>TATATATATATATA
>HAHAHAHA

in the second part.

>>82800021
I bet you screech autisticly when someone calls Drill Insructors Drill Sergeants.

i think we would not even discuss that if platoon hadn't come out the year before
People picture the fucking jungle if the think about the vietnam war and forget other aspects of the war - Oliver Stone gave them exactly what everybody expected and wanted to see

>>82799957
>>82799988
>t-the second half was best guys
>n-no i didn't enjoy the really enjoyable first half t-that much im not a pleb guys!
>t-the c-c-cinematography was just such k-kino in the second half, i really loved the b-b-boring l-l-long s-s-scenes of nothing

>>82798930
>completely forgettable

no

>>82800545
>t-t-there is going so much on in the first hour

>>82800213
>best quote in the film about the war.
Son, all I've ever asked of my Marines is for them to obey my orders as they would the word of God. We are here to help the Vietnamese, because inside every gook there is an American trying to get out. It's a hard-ball world, son. We've gotta try to keep our heads until this peace craze blows over!

>>82799942
tell me about him, why does he wear the bandages?

>>82800545
Stick to capeshit junior.

>>82798930
dirty dozen had a similar training/deployment structure but was better paced, funnier and had better actors. try to deny this, you cannot.

It certainly wasn't as memorable as the first half of the film, but I wouldn't call it forgettable. It had some great scenes.

>>82798930
Whoever thinks this is a fucking shit head.

Let's all just agree that Apocalypse Now is far superior to Full Metal Jacket

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>>82801122

>>82800766
>Implying the bug from Men in black didn't act his ass off

>>82801192
Back to 9gag

>>82801122
Let's all just agree that out of Apocalypse Now, Full Metal Jacket, and Platoon, that Platoon is by far the worst of the three.

>>82801984
FMJ is the greatest vietnam film ever made

>>82799117
this desu, other than this scene I forgot everything afterwards

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From that same list

>>82801984
Platoon doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as those two. Born on the 4th of July is the much better Stone Vietnam film.

>>82802237
I haven't seen any of those and still liked Stranger Things.

opening to pt. 2 is so good

>>82802237
>set in the 80s
>filled with "references" to movies also set in the 80s
WOW!!

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>>82800700
It was extremely painful before he put them on

>>82800491

How can you shoot women, children?

Easy you just don't lead em as much.

>>82801984
>>82802340
Platoon's strength was the sights and sounds and feel of what life was like in Vietnam and what it was like to hump through canopy jungle. The story itself was shit, and the action wasn't good either honestly. But those characters (mainly the background characters) bantering when they're bushwacking and just hanging around. Little details were the good thing. And they did a good job of portraying black soldiers in Vietnam. Junior and King, especially.

>>82802444
Except stand by me is set in the 50's

>>82802901
He meant to say it references movies MADE in the 80s

>>82802596
How do you tell the difference between a vc and an non vc?

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What was the significance of this scene?

>>82803013
Jesus Raimi.

>>82803013
It was a different time.

>>82799983
this, war is shitty but we naturally love it because aggression and competition's what allowed us to be alive today. every peaceful society was exterminated

>>82802985
IF HE RUNS HE'S A VC
IF HE STAND STILL HE'S A WELL DISCIPLINE VC

>>82802340
Barnes made it worth watching.

Worst opinion. The second half is vital to the film, and the sniper scene at the end is way more memorable than anything in the first half.

>>82804028
>That scene from the dying sniper's pow while they all look down on her bleeding out
I'm not even the guy who calls things kino, but thats fucking kino.
Also the tracking shot with bird is the word is great too
>I KNOW! THE GOOKS CAN PLAY THE INDIANS!

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>>82804814
You can talk the talk
can you walk the walk?

>>82798930
Yes. Yes they are. Case in point, quote anything from the 2nd half besides something the whore says

>>82798930

Low brow opinion.

>>82798983
>>82798950
FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

>>82805432

"See? Not too booku"

"HOW CAN YOU KILL WOMEN AND CHILDREN?" -> "YOU JUST NEED TO AIM LOWER"

"IT REPRESENTS THE DUALITY OF MAN SIR"

>>82799326
>he doesn't know what face bandages are

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>>82805432
>he doesn't have a confirmed kill

>>82805432
I WANTED TO BE THE FIRST KID ON MY BLOCK TO GET A CONFIRMED KILL

>>82805432
>You can eat the peanuts out of my shit
>All niggers must hang
>Joker, we're going to have to put you up for the congregational medal of...ugly

>>82805432
RIGHT AFTER YOU EAT THE PEANUTS OUT OF MY SHIT

>>82805744
>>82805747
You will be my boyfriend.

>>82805432
>quote anything from the 2nd half besides something the whore says
Thats literally what 90% of this thread is you dumb cunt.

How's Vietnam in HD? I've had it forever.

>>82805808
:3
me ruv u rong time

>>82805782
(You) talk the talk. Can (You) walk the walk?

>>82799983

every war movie is pro war because it romanticizes war, even if it's depicted as ugly and disturbing, it still invokes an emotion.

>>82803133
is this a new meme? i havent seen it posted on kym or reddit yet so im glad to be at the bleeding edge avant garde forum that is 4chan

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>brainlets not knowing Full Metal Jacket is split into 3 sections of which the sniper section is best

>>82801122

ehhh Apoc now kinda leaves the whole war behind not too far into the movie.

>>82805432

>THE DUALITY OF WHAT?
>who's side you on son?

>>82799565
>or if vietnam scenes were intercut with training scenes in flashback form..

BRAVO NOLAN

>>82803904
>Why do you smoke this shit? So as to escape from reality? Me, I don't need this shit. I am reality.

>>82805432
>instant section 8

>>82799353
That's the fucking point, retard. You do your basic and then boom, suddenly it's a huge fucking shift and you're in the warzone. The people you built up clout with while training are mostly all gone. You're with a new squad of literally-whos now.

>>82798930
I haven't seen this movie in like 5 years and I still remember the ending as well as the Mickey Mouse march.

>>82799036
Cracked used to be decent
6-7 years ago it had good articles
Now it's just weak fluff
What happened

>>82801122
Apocalypse Now isn't a Vietnam War movie

>>82806658
Competing with buzzfeed with cheap shitty clickbait articles.
Some of the videos are still funny, and I've been a david wong fan since PWOT, but its pretty attrocious in general.
[sage]I want to put my benis in that scrawney brunette so bad.

>>82802444
So you're saying a period piece has to rip-off the popular media of the time?

>>82806658
literally bought up by a jew, instantly started pumping out pro homo/trans, anti-white articles en masse.

>>82799656
Something to do with the duality of man.

>>82803013
illustrating the camaraderie between the troops. he was blatantly racist and said that directly to black dude but was the first one to run into enemy fire to save him. Race became irrelevant because of their brotherhood

>>82805432
>judges the quality of a film's acts by which has the most memorable quips

I know where you need to go back to

>>82806658
Cracked was pretty good all around before, Agents of Cracked was like a better version of CollegeHumor's skits

>>82799836
Yeah I seen a lil action...

On TV

This film always felt very un-Kubrick to me, A lot of it is the dialogue I think

>>82807387
Yeah, I always have to remind myself it's kubrick. That said, there are still the illuminati references like in all his stuff. And hell, there's even a 2001 monolith in the 2nd half.

>>82807486
>2001 monolith in the 2nd half.
Screenshot?

>>82798930
not really.. although the opening does make quite the impression, the second half is filled with plenty of thoughtful imagery. The hookers, the corpses, the psychotic murderers, the agonizing sniper victim.... it ends a bit mum... but frankly it's one of the best anti-climaxes.

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>>82807486
Yeah and Pyle's suicide scene is 10/10 Kubrick, I think he had a different cinematographer on this film as well
>>82807522
It's to remind the audience of tribal ape fight in 2001 and how it compares to modern warfare

>>82807387
Most of the dialogue was lifted from the book, or ad libbed by Ermy.

>>82799372
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iH5R4tgGdDk

Is Animal Mother supposed to be functionally retarded? It's the way he talks. He looks like he's a hair trigger away from going full retard Hulk smash on Joker in this scene.

>>82807587
just noticed that diamond pattern that shows up a lot in his films is also there

I've never understood the "the second half of Full Metal Jacket sucks" meme. Almost all of the memorable shit in that movie is in the second half. You want a Kubrick film with a forgettable second half, go watch A Clockwork Orange.

>>82807629
He's basically what Pyle would have turned into if he hadn't killed himself

>>82803013
it was just bantz m8

>>82807683
>implying you could ever forget TRY THE WINE

>>82807683
Hartmann and the downward spiral of Lawrence is far more interesting than Modine questioning existence and the "love you long time" meme.

>>82807692
>Implying he isn't pyle

>>82803013
>All fucking niggers must fucking hang
Doesn't mean what you think. The context was that Animal Mother snatched away the gook whore from Eightball, because he wanted to fuck her first. When he told Eightball to "fucking hang" he meant he had to wait his turn.

>THANK GOD FOR THE SICKLE CELL
What did he mean by this??

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>>82807863

>>82807875
>When he told Eightball to "fucking hang" he meant he had to wait his turn.
It was a double entendre.

>>82807683
>I've never understood the "the second half of Full Metal Jacket sucks" meme.
It's because FMJ doesn't follow a traditional narrative structure. It's basically two independent stories with their own beginnings, middles, and ends, that are loosely connected by two characters appearing in both.

>>82807587
>single frame
>so dense

this is why i no art

>>82807683
>try the wine
>not memorable
sort your life out m8

>>82807683
My favorite part is when Alex gets the shit kicked out of him by his droogs.
And the MMHESS guy

>>82808144
it's no joke, man

>>82808542
Your life or the wine? Cause yea wines no joke

>>82798930
How the fuck is the Vietnam half forgettable?
>Boots are made for walkin/me love you longtime
>Animal Mother
>Tet Offensive
>bird is the word
>cowboy gets sniped/Little girl sniper

>>82802237
This one's true, though

>>82803013
>CREME

>>82808896
>How can you shoot women and kids?
>Easy! Just dont lead them as much.

>>82799076
The Vietnam half of the book the movie is based on is just as fucked up as the boot camp part. There's one scene where they're on base and they get hit by a mortar. The protagonist gets a piece of his buddy's meat blown into his mouth.

Kubrick toned that stuff down for some reason.

>>82799492
Let me guess, you didn't like The Thin Red Line either?

>it's a footfag pandering episode
Bravince definitely lurks on /tv/

>>82809874
post in the wrong thread?