How did the Nazgul know that Frodo left the Shire?

>>82789781
They went there and he was gone

>>82789781
He made deductions for traveling expenses.

>>82789781
He checked the menu and the tax policy (while flying a riverdancing eagle)

>>82789940
This

>>82789781

They asked around

>>82789781
it was the will of the force

>>82789781
When they went to check if Frodo had filled his tax returns and they weren't in the archive.

>>82789940
Correct answer. Always follow the money

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAxR8pvca2o

They LITERALLY asked around

so they just believed hobbits who said" sorry bro frodo left?"

>>82789985
ANYBODY SEEN FRODO?

>>82790132
think he went towards Bree, mate

They asked around and found them easily because the Shire is AnCap and has few roads.

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Why didn't the fellowship listen to gandalf's last words and fly into Mordor?

>>82789781
They tried calling him and it went straight to voicemail

They were wandering the lands in the search for the ring for years and years, and they were close to the Shire.

That's why Gandalf told Bilbo to give the ring to Frodo and get the fuck out of there.

>>82790311
Why does he say Fly again?

>>82789781
Gollum told them to go to the shire, and when they got there he wasn't there.

>>82790369
The eagles, he wants them to stop being dumb and use the eagles.

>>82790369
He realized it was a fucking stupid plan to just walk into Mordor so he told them to go get the eagles.

>>82790367
>That's why Gandalf told Bilbo to give the ring to Frodo and get the fuck out of there.

No that's not why. Gandalf tells Bilbo to give Frodo the ring because Bilbo promised. Gandalf didn't know it was the one ring until later. Even then he knew the ring was perfectly safe in the shire until he learns later on that gollum told sauron to look in the shire.

>>82790536
>>82790501
Then when he comes back why doesn't he fly?

>>82790607
Because he realized everything's fine so he continued trolling them.

You see, if you're immortal the only way to experience joy in life is by being a complete dick to the lesser races.

>>82790607
Uh, he does. Multiple times.

>>82789940

stop

what form did he use?

>>82790607
What's the point when he can't find frodo

>>82790607
He booked United

>>82789940
Did Frodo invest with Bank of the Shire or White Citadel Group?

>>82790369
Fly is an old school synonym for flee

Why did Saladman set up his entire operation in a spot that could easily be wiped out through the simple destruction of a dam?

>>82790607
he had a name change so it no longer matched the one on his passport

>>82789963
Fuck off retard.

why didn't Frodo just tell the Witch King:
"I'm not Frodo"

>>82790171
Fucking snitching midgets

>>82789781

fuckin' bill ferny, man

Where does the Pumpkin figure into all this?

>>82790916
>he doesn't think that "fly, you fools" is a nod from Tolkien that, yes, they could've just flew into Mordor with the eagles.

>>82789781
He posted it on facebook before he left.

reminder there was a fifth hobbit in the book who got shanked to high fuck covering the other hobbits escape from the shire

>>82789781
Cuz they're magic, ya dingus.

>>82791089
Somebody probably tagged Frodo or "checked him in" at the Prancing Pony without telling him first. I hate it when people do that stuff.

>>82790829
1099-HBT

>>82790132
ANYBODY KNOW WHY FRODO STOLE THE RING FROM BOBBY LUPO?

Can we please get some taxposting up in here?

>>82791250
It is the most patrician meme along with Caspereposting

>>82790888
Bank of the Shire, they really focus on the young members of their community, free checking accounts to those under 40.

>>82789781
They felt drawn towards the one ring.

>>82791100
Really? Who?

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>keep it secret
>keep it safe
This wasn't Gandalf's first audit. He knew how to avoid taxes on "undocumented" orc wages.

He literally put the ring on gazillion times, how could they not know

>>82790049
Yup. Also, this isn't even the extent of what happens, the movie is quite cut down.

>>82791365
fatty bolger

seems he survived unscathed after all. always thought he got the same treatment as the pillows in the prancing pony

>>82791100
He wasn't shanked up was he? I thought he was just imprisoned?

>>82791670
Isn't it like 17 years between Frodo having the ring and him actually leaving? What the fuck, the movie makes it seem like he leaves basically right away.

>>82789781
Because they knew that he lived in Bag End and when they got there it was a logical next step to assume that he was trying to leave the Shire. On top of that they literally ran into one of the Ringwraiths on the way to the raft in Buckland. Lastly the Ringwraiths are literally drawn to the ring and so they were able to sniff out his general trail.

>>82790945
It was the creation of a dam not its destruction. He knew that Rohan's inefficient taxation structure meant that any attempt to build such a large public project wouldn't even get out of the planning committee so he thought he was safe, he didn't figure for the use of voluntary labour from the ents who unknown to him had an efficient system of tax write offs for volunteer work.

>>82791923
I think the movies omit the 17 year gap between the party and Frodo leaving.
In the book this is where Gandalf is doing research and realizes that Bilbo's ring is the One.

>>82791681
>fatty bolger
what about in the scouring of the shire?

>>82791007
Because they can sense that he has the ring. Frodo even put the thing on.

>>82791365
>>82791681
>>82792137
During Saruman's rule of the Shire he led a group of partisans fighting against the Ruffians around the Hills of Scary, before eventually being captured. He and his sons were imprisoned in the Lockholes and starved, meaning that after his release nobody could call him Fatty any more.

Where were the wizards during the war in the prologue?

>>82792185
In the undying lands.

>>82790049
>>82791582
These.

They asked around, and every time he put the ring on they got a sense of his location when he put it on.

>>82792133
>>82791923
It's an important aspect, since Frodo's time with the ring, even if not as long as Bilbo's is still more significant - which better explains how it's already gotten its claws into him.

>>82789781
Gaffer Gamgee told them

>>82789781
They saw him leave? Fucking retard

>>82791923
they drop the 16 year gap. they also dropped the whole plotline of gandalf and aragorn tracking down gollum.

it's also kind of strange when bilbo calls the ring 'my precious' gandalf says that it's been called that before but not by him. how the fuck would he know that? he didn't even know gollum had the ring

frodo didn't put the ring on until they found him, so they couldn't have seen him in the spirit world yet

Why can Frodo jump 3 feet to the ferry but a Magic HORSE can't?

>>82792451
because thats not how it went down in the book

>>82792404
Why were they tracking gollum, if they didn't know he had the ring at one point?

>>82792451
The horse isn't magic.

>>82789781
Did you know that cursed rings are the number 1 reason of Nazgul attacks?
I really hope Aragorn passed some cursed ring restriction laws after he became king.

>>82792515
>implying curse ring control works

>>82792478
i forget. but aragorn and gandalf somehow learned that he was taken prisoner and tortured then escaped.

>>82792478
It was when Gandalf was suspicious of the ring and did a bunch of research and he tracked down Gollum and asked him a bunch of questions about it and then imprionsed him in the Mirkwood prisons were the elves kept the Dwarves in Bilbos adventure and then he escaped or some shit and travelled to Mordor or was captured and under torture he said "Baggins" and "Shire".

Something like that.

>>82789781
Why didnt eru iluvatar simply delete melkor/sauron from existence

what was the blue wizards purpouse? What did they do? Was Tolkien a hack?

>>82792533
>implying it doesnt
Undying Lands have cursed ring control and it works!

>>82792404
isildur may have call it that
>>82792451
nazguls horses are afraid of water as nazguls afraid of fire

>>82792593
Gollum is caught by Suaron's spies and tortured in Mordor first. Aragorn and Gandalf catch him when he is released from Mordor and hand him over to the Elves in Mirkwood

>>82792702
No they don't. Gandalf sailed in there with his cursed ring.

>>82792404
He read s isildors diaries

'it is precious to me'

>>82792668
They were the tax wizards perhaps??

it woud've been easier to just say the blue wizards died fighting the witch king but no, tolkien had to be misterious about it

>>82792799
Because there are no cursed rings, they are imported.
This is why they dont allow immigrants.

>>82789781
Magic?

>>82792909
How is allowing imports of cursed rings effective ring control?

So why didn't the Nazgul try to find Bilbo after he put on the ring a fair few times when he was in the Shire?

>>82793219
They were probably too far away to notice and Sauron was probably weaker at that time.
After all, even to people in Gondor and Rohan the Shire is a little known place.

>>82793172
Only maiar in service of the government are allowed to have cursed rings.

>>82789781
Did you not read the book? Oh wait I'm on /tv/...

>>82793323
>he trusts the government with rings

>>82791162
So, in the modern world we know, who are culturally and socially the closest people to Hobbits?

Alcoholic, lazy, low IQ, stoners who are generally happy and oblivious to the world.

>>82791082

But they couldn't and Tolkien explicitly said this

>>82793719
Tolkein never said this.

If some nobody could kill smaug I bet the whole mordor could kill the eagles

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The world is grey, the mountains old,
The forge's fire is ashen-cold;
No harp is wrung, no hammer falls:
The darkness dwells in Durin's halls;
The shadow lies upon his tomb
In Moria, in Khazad-dûm.
But still the sunken stars appear
In dark and windless Mirrormere;
There lies his crown in water deep,
Till Durin wakes again from sleep.

>>82792830
he reads isildors diary after he says that to bilbo

>>82792404
>he didn't even know gollum had the ring

Uh, yeah he did. He knew exactly how Bilbo got the ring. The only thing he didn't know is that it was the one ring.

>>82794190
the only thing i remember from the hobbit was that gandalf was suspicious of bilbos story about how he escaped from gollum, he doesn't mention the ring

>>82792593
He tries to find Gollum before anything else.

>>82794449
Bilbo told him the whole story, including gollum calling it my precious.

>>82791923
There was no way for the film to give a sense of 17 years passing. Making Frodo leave right away was the good thing to do.

>>82794486
http://fullbooks.net/the-hobbit/-chapter-6-out-of-the-frying-pan-into-the-fire-128591.html

no, he doesn't

>>82794695
Yes he does.

>I have heard his story: how he found it, and how he used it: on his journey, I mean.'
>Which story, I wonder,' said Gandalf.
>Oh, not what he told the dwarves and put in his book,' said Frodo. 'He told me the true story soon after I came to live here. He said you had pestered him till he told you, so I had better know too.' "

>>82789781
Frodo left a paper trail a mile wide. Remember, he inherited all bilbo's wealth which put him into a higher tax bracket.

>>82790607
he didn't fly so good

>>82790888

this is how they found him,

he did use bank of the shire but he had recently moved to a joint account or "fellowship savings account" but in order to move his savings over he had to go to the home branch to deposit his savings in person

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>>82795557
LOL

>>82795557
so sauron has a mole in the shire financial institutions?

>>82795608
Yes.

>>82794077
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtnLogUgAMI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9468-QKRoCg

>>82789940
This
They just tracked his purchasing history and his IP address

>>82792622
Why didn't God just delete Satan from existence?
That's right, every good story needs a villain

>>82792404
>I searched everywhere for the creature, Gollum.

I can't explain the rest but he Gandalf does say this when he tells Frodo to pack and leave for Bree.

>>82796974
Honestly I don't think illuvatar had the power
like ungoliant existed before he even created the valar to sing the universe into existence

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>LOTR tax thread
>feel the itch to turn on the fellowship
>click play
>instant goosebumps

Why is LOTR so comfy?

>>82792180
>the Hills of Scary
I love Tolkien but this is some Lucas/ J.K Rowling tier naming

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Where did the hobbits get tomatoes, sasusages, and nice crispy bacon from? At that point they had been travelling for days, if not weeks. Surely the sausages and bacon would have gone bad. Did they bring a cooler?

>>82798991
They got it off the menu you idiot

>>82798876
Except that's usually how place names happen in real life. It's just that through multiple different languages and evolutions of language they seem to become inherently "names" rather than single or concatenated words.

>>82798731
Objectively the most comfy introductory segment of any movie ever.

>>82798991
notice in that scene, that the bacon is 'crispy'
now, how long would it take for a piece of bacon to become crispy on a small, open fire?
also notice that when frodo extinguishes the fire, pippin complains that there is 'ash' on his tomato
so they were cooking long enough for some of the kindling to dissolve into ASH
the campfire was not what attracted the nazguls, but rather frodo sperging out and screaming "PUT IT OUT YOU FOOLS"
so frodo deserved to get stabbed, the fucking faggot

>>82800569
Except no.

>>82798991
It had a lot of preservatives

>>82791082
I'm not in the mood to indulge your memes today.

>>82789781
I think it was because the Shire analysts going through the market reports foresaw a downturn and they correctly predicted that Frodo was going to make a break for the tax haven of Rivendell.

>>82800569
they were literally 30 seconds away from the rock

>>82798991
They ordered takeout from all those well-renowned Mordor restaurants the orcs keep going on about.