Alien C

>overtly retarded and emotional humans
Yup. No lessons learned from Prometheus
>weapons that do nothing
Not really. Conventional weapons kill one of the neomorphs
>david lacks a clear motive/reason for his behaviour
He makes it pretty explicit, he wants to experiment on people
>no exploration of the engineers
Engineer were a terrible idea in the first place & the worst part of Prometheus
>plot holes, plot holes, plot holes
Like?
>neomorphs are cgi shit and not much different from the black ones, function wise
>hardly even get time with the aliens before it ends
Definitely agree on those two, didn't really feel like an Alien movie til the very end
>alien somehow develop 10x faster than their evolved versions in the old movies
True but a very minor nitpick

The bigger plothole was why even develop the weapon from the original form, that dust that can get into your body through your skin? That seems like a pretty much perfect killer, whereas facehuggers are pretty inefficient

>>82747731

I thought it was pretty good senpai, then again I paid attention whilst watching the movie

>>82748276

This. People seem to be just be pissed off because it's not Alien or Aliens. Those were like 30 years ago dudes, film making has moved on. People don't go around blasting every action movie because it doesn't look like Die Hard

>>82748180
>He makes it pretty explicit, he wants to experiment on people
but why? because hes feeling emo? theres no compelling drive

>True but a very minor nitpick
but thats a core part of Aliens, you get infected and part of the terror is when it slowly grows in you. Why would it slow down in a more evolved version?

>>82748276
if you paid attention you would have realised its pure shit

LMAO WHO NEEDS HELMETS

LMAO LETS DETOUR TO THIS MYSTERIOUS PLANET DESPITE THE FACT WEARE CARRYING PRECIOUS CARGO AND SPENT DECADES AND TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO SURVEY AND VET THE ORIGINAL DESTINATION PLANET

LMAO LETS JUST LAND WITHOUT MAKING MORE DETAIL OBSERVATIONS, AND YES, THE CAPTAIN COMES WITH US, BECAUSE WHY NOT

>>82748276
>4 posts
>3 unique ID

stop samefagging

>>82747731
David's motive was stated in Prometheus

>>82748527
which is?????

>>82748441
Because he's a weird robot and doesn't understand how life works? I think it was explained pretty well dude
>but thats a core part of Aliens, you get infected and part of the terror is when it slowly grows in you. Why would it slow down in a more evolved version?
Oh you mean when it's inside the person. Yeah that was pretty weird ho it's almost instant, and ties into my last point, the original form of the weapon seems so much for efficient vs the final xenomorph. Doesn't Ash describe it as the perfect killer in the first movie?

Also, plot holes? Any examples? Apart from people acting like idiots

>>82748441
>LMAO WHO NEEDS HELMETS
Do you also sperg out when they don't wear helmets on Star Trek? Its fiction, grow up

>LMAO LETS DETOUR TO THIS MYSTERIOUS PLANET DESPITE THE FACT WEARE CARRYING PRECIOUS CARGO AND SPENT DECADES AND TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO SURVEY AND VET THE ORIGINAL DESTINATION PLANET
This was established pretty well, James Franco got incinerated and nobody wanted to get back in their pods. Some crew say its a bad idea but the captain thinks its worth checking out at least due to the human signal coming from a seenlingly habitable planet. Its not much of a stretch to believe those onboard would want to investigate at least

>LMAO LETS JUST LAND WITHOUT MAKING MORE DETAIL OBSERVATIONS, AND YES, THE CAPTAIN COMES WITH US, BECAUSE WHY NOT
Detailed observations of what? Why cant the captain come? Why are you so angry over this flick?

>>82748537

He felt humans were weak and pathetic (as he said about Mr Weyland to Walter) he wanted to create something superior to take their place

>>82748600
Remember they had that little solar powered rover? Why not just send that?

>>82748537
Finding out that humans built him for fun

>>82748600
>X film does this, so its okay for Y film to do this too
??? not even the same universe, why dont you apply harry potter rules to this movie too

>mysterious planet no one knows much about
>send your highest in command down on a whim
>make these rash YOLO decisions just because some whiny "first world problem" folks didnt felt like following more orders
>implying they are not ultimately answerable to mission control back home on earth

Prometheus and Covenant are literally Star Wars prequel-tier movies: expanding on things that didn't need to be expanded on, adding convoluted retcons and connections, complete with its own variation of the midichlorian meme in form of black goo.

>>82748180
>Conventional weapons kill one of the neomorphs

yea, like one single time
rest of the movie it might as well be a pea shooter

>>82747731

Why is this movie so polorising?
I found the movie fine, like Prometheus yet the reactions are all over the place.

>>82748403
If I were to watch this (which I most likely won't), I would want to see something in line with Alien. The more of these movies get made the worse they get. They had a chance to bring it back to something meaningful and worthy of the original with Prometheus and blew it. That movie makes Aliens look like some high brow kino. I have absolutely no expectations for Covenant.

>>82748441
davids drive comes from weyland, trying to make the perfect lifeform, weyland is no longer around but the drive remains.

as for the lifecycle speed, maybe the closer in generations the lifeforms are to goo the faster they reproduce and grow?

>>82747731
>>plot holes, plot holes, plot holes
Name one plot hole in Covenant. Don't you fucking dare post something that isn't explained as evidence of a plot hole.

>>82748869
I'm sure there are talented writers in the world who could make something out of these movies but what we get is this brainless money grubbing shit. Throw some xenos and some explosions in and the plebs will eat that shit.

>>82747731
All your opinions are wrong. You either didn't see the movie or are too retarded for even entry-level sci-fi.

If you think practical Xenomorphs looked good go to youtube right now and look up footage from Aliens. They looked fucking stupid in motion.

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Why hasn't any alien sequel surpassed the second one? Aliens isn't even that good but it wins just by virtue of being a halfway competent, functional action thriller.

Now you have Ridley Scott undermining the mystery and spookiness of his own film and changing the lore in ways the james cameron movie didn't even remotely try to do. Why is it so hard to make a good alien movie? Alien 3 is a broken mess and even that manages to capture the spirit of the first movie better than anything subsequent to it.

>>82749022
the engineer ship in original Alien full of eggs is impossible

>all engineers are dead here
>aliens are created by david, not engineers

so how does an engineer ship end up with hundreds of alien eggs somewhere else for nostromo to find

What I don't understand; is that they have guns. So that establishes that they have a contingency for agressive native life at their destination, right? In fact they were utterly nonplussed by the presence of trees, and were actually surprised there's no birds or animals. This raises important questions as to how common life is in the Alien universe. Are Weyland-Yutani tripping over planets teeming with life?

So, if they expect to find life at their destination, why do they utterly fail to account for the possibility of viruses?
Oh wait, because the plot needs them to.

>>82748940
People are angry not because it's a bad movie, but because it's not the movie they want it to be.

>>82747731

>tfw too dumb to understand a Ridley Scott movie

>>82749159

This is what I thought, its just Prometheus all over again

>>82749141
Why are you referring to something that is literally irrelevant to Covenant?

>>82749056
>entry-level sci-fi

>walks around on alien planet without protective clothing

>>82749159

ie a good one

>>82749131
maybe cameron shouldnt have been a fukn idiot and changed them so they are like bugs that require cgi so their movement looks convincing for what they are trying to portray

>>82749207
>convent is officially prequel to Alien series
>irrelevant

what?? its 100% irrelevant, the movie does not exist in a vacuum

>>82749158
It's one thing to get space flu, it's another to get space ebola. A pilot freaking out because someone is convulsing and bleeding doesn't seem far fetched. Notice how the black doctor actually tries to help the guy and only get's scared when he starts bleeding and having shit come out of the guy's back.

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>>82749132

>Why is it so hard to make a good alien movie?

Because the creative genius behind it is gone, and Ridley can't coast oh his ideas anymore.

>>82749208
>land on planet
>computer evaluates air composition and topography
>tells you it's basically Earth
>walk around without a mask
WHOA CRAZY

>>82749244
Do you have any idea of the severe brain damage you seem to be suffering from?

>>82748441
>but thats a core part of Aliens, you get infected and part of the terror is when it slowly grows in you. Why would it slow down in a more evolved version?

Maybe because a longer gestation period makes it less likely that those around will be on their guard when it emerges, increasing its chances of survival?

>>82749264
yea lets just trust a scan that doesnt even tell you the FAUNA and FLORA on the planet

>wow we have WHEAT, SO MAGICAL

for all they know the planet could have ass raping monsters-

oh wait :^)

>>82748608
He values intelligence, but instead of creating something intelligent, smarter than humans, he creates parasitic mindless space cockroaches? How tge fuck woykd he cosider those to be perfect?

>>82747731

wew Disney shills are going all out on this one. Guess your employees want a strong 3rd weekend for GotG2 eh?

The worst thing is that the Steyrs could have easily been Pulse Rifles or even proto-Pulse Rifles. It could have been the easiest nod to Aliens to make and the decision not to do that had to have been very purposeful on Scott's part.

>>82749141
You're a retard.
>clearly interstellar species
>they're all extinct because David bombed that one city
No.
>David created Xenos
We saw David make xenos here, doesn't mean he's the only one, or even the first one to do so.
There's a 10 years span between Covent and 8th Passenger, and two or three more movies to cover that period, so there's every reason to think this will be explained eventually. Just because all the answers aren't given right away doesn't mean it's a plot hole.

>>82749289
>asks for plot hole
>plot is constructed in a way that doesnt make sense for the entire series, not just the movie
>not a plot hole

do you drink lead water or something?

>>82749310
>for all they know the planet could have ass raping monsters

That's why they bought the guns

>>82749310
>for all they know the planet could have ass raping monsters-
Which is why they had military equipment up the ass and weapons. Don't really see how they should have expected the planet to be the home of the absolute worst parasitic species in the universe.

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>>82749351
Not falling for the bait

>>82749316
> hivemind and ability to co-ordinate and strategise
> mindless

okaaay

okaaaaay

>>82749264
So you saing that they never heard about pathogens in that universe? People wear protective gear and masks when walking into old houses, but not on alien planet?

>>82747731
I enjoyed this movie, I'd say it was as good if not better than Prometheus.
>Alien
>Aliens
>Prometheus
>AC

I'd have preferred if they focused more on Davids journey of becoming a creator and wanting to be worshipped by his creations.

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>>82749327

Its more like the movie got shilled to kingdom fuck in the UK and a lot of them on this board are trying to pass off this turd as kino to try and mentally justify their expenditure of time and money.

>>82749367
so they had enough sense to being guns but not enough sense to bring masks or helmets

even here on planet earth people wear masks or even hazmat suits when entering old homes or mines

they were literally romping around in tshirts and jeans

So how will more facehuggers be made?

Nothing led us to believe that David created a Queen. Or created the Xenos hierarchical society. He had two facehugger samples at the end. And none of his black goo research materials. After those two facehuggers infect two random crew members, how will the species propagate? The first two Xenos to chest burst weren't Queens, why should we be led to believe the others will be?

>>82749427
But the computer ruled out airborne pathogens. The air was perfectly clean because those little monster-spores only showed up by disturbing the pods on the ground.

Is it true robot Fassbinder fingers himself or something?

>>82749477
He just does the fingering while Watson does the blowing.

>>82749441
Exactly this was what took me out of the movie for good. Why do they have guns but not sealed breathing gear? Are space bears common? It seems like totally backwards logic.

>>82749447
Drones/Warriors can eventually evolve into Queens if there isn't one readily available.

>>82749367
Fucking hand held rifles? Come on

>>82749477
The entire theatre exploded with laughter at the fingering line. Fuck me that was bad.

>>82749447
>>82749515
Do you guys actually think Ridley won't retconn the existence of a xeno queen? He hates it.

>>82749434
>OVEN CANT

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is Ridley Scott secretly homophobic?

"i'll do the fingering"
"i love you" *gay kiss*

>David is creepy and weird
>shows him having homo vibes with Walter, as if being gay is unnatural, degenerate or undesirable, along with the rest of his fetishes

As a LGBT person i'm actually semi triggered

>>82749460
Literally the same mold on earth works, and thats why people wear masks in old houses. Dont they any safety protocols? Literally any lab course in college in better secured than this space colonization mission

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Saw it today. Pretty good. Will watch the director's cut because they've left out a lot of scenes you can see in the trailer and other videos on YouTube

Why would androids avoid sexual innuendo?

Blowing and fingering are reasonable terms for the actions of playing a flute. The line didn't bother me at all.

>>82749342
>so there's every reason to think this will be explained eventually
Like how Prometheus explains literally nothing.

>>82749594
Yeah, it was a bit 'dude gays r weird lmao'

>>82749675
This is a fucking 5-movies run you absolute autist.
>waaah waaah it was a bad movie because it leaves question unanswered
I shouldn't have to tell you how fucking plebtastic of an attitude that is.

>>82748180
>That seems like a pretty much perfect killer, whereas facehuggers are pretty inefficient
David wanted to create his own lifeform. Pretty much like weyland created him.

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>when you can see the dumpster fire from across the galaxy

>>82747731
I haven't seen AvP, but other than that I didn't think any of the older movies were bad. Just very different to each other, which is a good thing. This isn't really some epic science fantasy saga like Star Wars, lore and the overarching narrative doesn't really matter to me. I liked having different people's takes on the Alien idea, with Ripley there to ground it with some continuity.

Alien 3 in particular I think is underrated. Resurrection is intentionally farcical, which I think rubs people the wrong way because they are too attached to the series. If it was released as an unrelated sci-fi movie, I think it would be better appreciated.

Prometheus and Covenant manage to take themselves way too seriously, and still have huge plot holes/terrible logic, which is not a good mix. They try to be more than Alien, but at the same time they rely very heavily on references to Alien. Again, not a good mix. Should have released them as a separate series, but I suppose it would be difficult to market a completely new Ridley Scott series in the 2010s.

Prometheus had some good ideas, but Covenant gave them up. It has no integrity whatsoever. Scott admitted that the xenomorph is only in the movie because people asked for it. Yet, the final product features it as a huge focal point.

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>>82749594
>>shows him having homo vibes with Walter, as if being gay is unnatural, degenerate or undesirable, along with the rest of his fetishes

Um... That's because being gay is unnatural and degenerate, anon. Seek help.

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Did anyone catch the scene where David plays the role of the Engineer from this scene?

I think it says why the Engineer ripped Davids head off. Like David, he saw this new creation as a threat to him and he had to stop it.

>>82748600
>James Franco got incinerated
Why would you spoil the only good part of a movie

>>82749716
>>82749675

remember when people defended the plot holes in promethus, saying it would be explained in the next movie................?

>yesssss just give us more money goy, dont worry we'll tell you the FULL STORY next time

>>82749594
This is a trope throughout movies and culture in general, underage faggot.

>>82749783
It was so satisfying. Truly a great way to start the movie

Does this flick have more scientist running in a straight line?

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>David quoting Shelley
>In pic related location

KINO

>>82749748

>xenomorphs are a huge focal point

Wot m8?
Covenant is heavily focussed on David, he starts and ends the movie. Xenos are in it for 2 scenes, just to provide some action

>>82749748
>AvP

It was pretty terrible. The sequel was even worse.

Everything in your post I agree with, except A:C which I haven't seen (don't really care about spoilers though).

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>>82749716
Oh boy, four more of these

>>82749748

>Just very different to each other, which is a good thing.

This guy gets it. At least Jeunet had the balls to completely run it off the rails and incorporate other media, like "Aliens: Labyrynth". Ridley just half assed it with expanding things nobody asked him to expand upon, and then caving in and tying it back to Alien. He could've just filmed "Isolation" and he would be praised for it. Instead he decided to release his incoherent, half baked ideas on us.

It's just a cash grab at this point, nothing makes sense story-wise, and the characters are so artificially stupid that you can't relate to them in any single way.

I was stoked when Prometheus was revealed, now I just can't give a shit about the Alien franchise, way to go you fucking hack!

And just to add insult to injury, the new Predator movie looks even worse, like some failed tv pilot with the worst cast I've seen in a long time.

It seems sci-fi horror/action is dead :/

>>82749342
>2 or 3 more movies to cover that period
Please, no. I would be hard pressed to find a compelling reason why there needs to be a trilogy of films to explain that aliens attacked other aliens and got their ship crashed.

fuck remember the days when the Predators made aliens to fight. Dark Horse was the shit.

>>82749748
Agreed with you, apart from Prometheus having some good ideas
>dude I literally just read Chariots of the Gods lmao

>>82749447
Maybe david's xenos turn other people into eggs, like it was supposed to be in alien. Ripley is slowly fazing Aliens out of canon.

>>82749791
but its 2017 already

did scott not get the memo?

>>82749594
They're ROBOTS you flaming FRUIT

>>82749927
>if I reduce the plot of an entire franchise to 1 sentence I can make it sound pointless and retarded
Congrats boyo. By that logic one shouldn't give a fuck about any work of fiction ever.

>>82749874
Yes, but David's arc is centred around the xenomorph.

>>82749942
What's wrong with incorporating that into a film?

What about the Video game with Ripley's daughter. Wasn't that approved by Scott.

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>>82749892
Looked good, too

>>82750017
Nothing really, just not particularly original and not unique to Prometheus

>>82749871
I thought i was the only one!

>>82749748
what is wrong with ressurection?

>>82750051

isolation is straight kino compared to this trash

What happened to Walter? Did David grab the knife and overpower him, or did Walter suddenly have a change of heart and let him go? Because you see Walter beginning to keep striking David.
I was so confused in the theatre.

Also I was waiting for Dr Manhattan to start to look into the egg, but then go "Naw fuck that I'm out of here" and leave. Having him just get facehugged was so boring and drawn out.

>>82749434
I'd watch a Chinese movie called Li Aen

>>82750070
i remember playing the multiplayer map on AVP2 back in the day. damn that shit was comfy

>>82750136
Why are you asking me? I said I liked it.

From what I can gather, other people dislike it because the whole idea it's built on is ridiculous and they need their alien monster movies to be very serious.

>>82749990
It's the setup for a slasher movie in SPAAACE. It's pretty mysterious and spooky, and Giger's art adds to it and makes it really Gothic and strange, but it isn't like it's solving the meaning of life to understand what happened there. Hey, that reminds me, you ever wonder just how Darth Vader BECAME Darth Vader? Well I got some movies you need to see.
But besides that, how many more of these movies will involve a group of people in a ship who get attacked by weird monsters, and one of them maybe betrays them, and then other weird monsters come into play? This series is creatively bankrupt

>>82750051

>Wasn't that approved by Scott.

WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T HE FILM IT INSTEAD OF THIS MENTAL MASTURBATION

>>82747731
What was good about Alien is that there was lots of details and substance to the planet, the creature, the crashed ship, the crew.

This movie has too much going on and not enough detail, and the detail it does have focuses on a more broader philosophical question rather than events taking place around the actors.

He should have focused more on a specific creature or on David and Walters relationship or on the Engineers or on Shaws fate.

Way too much going on.

>>82749195
>its just Prometheus all over again

So it's a shitty movie that needed a complete rewrite?

>>82750194
how is it farcical?

Fucking Scott turned alien into how some white dudes just wanted to make wheat and ended up making humans that would one day cause their Holocaust.

>>82749594
>As a LGBT person i'm actually semi triggered
you have to leave.

>>82750271
Well, the premise is that Ripley has been cloned 200 years after her death from a drop of her blood after jumping into a fire, and the resultant clone is a hybrid of her and the xenomorph. She is a bit more evil than the original Ripley, which is regularly used to comedic effect in scenes with her playing basketball, for example.

A farce isn't inherently a bad thing, maybe that's why you're confused.

>>82750051
Also notable in that even though there are dozens of Xeno on that ship, including tons of eggs there isn't even the slightest hint of a queen.

Looks like we're going back to the turning people into eggs thing after all. Which is pretty fucking stupid because Xenos need to sacrifice 2 humans just to make 1 of their species. One to get HUGGED, and another to get Egg'd.

Having an egg laying queen just makes so much more sense. Like why is the Xenos at the end of covenant straight murdering people if they need them to breed.

>the whole flute scene

Perhaps I'm just not cultured, but what the fuck was all that about. I was expecting David to shove it through Walter's head, but instead nothing fucking happened.

Also the parade of people finding the decapitated body one after the other was farcical. You see basically the same shot of the head floating in the sink three times.

>>82749594
>>>/r/eddit

>>82750403
>Like why is the Xenos at the end of covenant straight murdering people if they need them to breed
Guys as long as the Aliens have wheat they don't need host. hahahhahah

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You aren't smart enough to understand something as intelligent as a Ridley Scott movie.

>>82748180
>Engineer were a terrible idea in the first place & the worst part of Prometheus
I disagree, no wonder why you are justifying this shit train.

>>82748180
>he wants to experiment on people
And what about the no harming humans protocol that he has? did he suddenly overrided it?

>>82748180
>Like?
If david created the xenomorphs then it completely clashes with Alien 1.

>>82748180
>True but a very minor nitpick
Nope, fuck even Prometheus has character development and a lead to empathize with. This had nothing.

>>82750419
David was testing Walters ability to create.

Jesus, didn't you pay attention to what David said afterwards. He literally tells Walter that his recital was perfect, but he can't create.

>>82750419
>>I was expecting David to shove it through Walter's head, but instead nothing fucking happened.
Yeah me too. That scene led to nothing. They cut out all Shaw scenes and leave this one. Why?

>Also the parade of people finding the decapitated body one after the other was farcical. You see basically the same shot of the head floating in the sink three times.
That shot was creepy as fuck but showing it once would be enough. Waste of screen time

>>82748276
I guess you have the brain of a termite then.
>>82748403
>pissed off because it's not Alien or Aliens.
Have you even been reading the posts that people do about why they dont like it anon?

What a fucking retard.

>>82750701
>If david created the xenomorphs then it completely clashes with Alien 1

why is this?

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>>82750701
>what about the no harming humans protocol that he has? did he suddenly overrided it?
Well it's pretty obvious Weyland turned that off due to his actions in Prometheus

>david created the xenomorph
How many times.... He bred them using the knowledge he gained from the engineers. Xenos have been around way before David got involved

You should probably try watching the movies again. You obviously were not paying attention

>>82748608
>>82749316
Also he says he loed shaw and felt compassion for her and yet that was completely pointless because he killed her in the fucking movie.

They literally made what people hated about Alien 3.

I was expecting a Dr Shaw and David going on adventures & shit. Not watch a bunch of retards being chased by cgi xenomorphs with shit slasher flick scenes.

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>they don't want a man of faith
>I have faith in you

You ever hear of a little thing called "SHOW DON'T SPELL IT OUT". Maybe have a brief shot of him tucking a bible or a crucifix into his shirt or something, jeez.

>>82749351
gr8 b8 m8

>>82749666
>Pretty good
Are you talking about TFA?

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>>82750893
It was so cruel too. It wasn't enough that Shaw died in a crash, or even that David simply strangled her or whatever. He dissected her alive. That revelation left a very bad taste in my mouth and was the final nail in terms of my opinion on this film.

>>82750910
>Shaw wears a cross on new neck
>Gets eviscerated
>Captain is a man of faith
>Gets facehugged
Why does Scott hate Christians?

>>82750271
>>82750389
I remember the midget being played for laughs, too. Also the newborn looked goofy

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>>82750668

>>82750893
>Also he says he loed shaw and felt compassion for her and yet that was completely pointless because he killed her in the fucking movie.
GotG2 did it better

>>82751028
Shaw didn't die in the crash. We see the ship she and David came to the planet hovering over the city when David releases the virus and then the ship crashes in the woods. Shaw clearly crashed it. But they don't show it to us. Maybe we'll see it in the director's cut.

>>82751126
Yeah, I know bud. The movie very clearly establishes that David killed her.

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Everything will be explained in the next movie.

>>82749207
This is a problem with prequels they go forward with a story as a backstory is being told. Intrinsically jarring.

I wonder if Noomi Rapace would have agreed to appear in Covenant if she knew her role in the final cut would amount to being a flayed corpse.

>>82750954
>TFA
>pretty good
Yeah sure

>>82750403
It's probably very likely that xenos can do both queen and without queen, the queen needing a lot of time in building a hive, logistics in keeping her several ton fat ass alive (talking raw food here) and safety from imminent threats. Not to mention the queen chestburster is unique and takes a while to grow.

on the plus side we go down to a 1-1 trade.

>>82749666
This is hot. Saved for later.

How do we fix Alien prequels?

>>82751259
They shot a lot of scenes with her. Then they cut them all from the movie. See the prequel on JewTube.

>>82747731
I liked it, just like I liked Prometheus.

Alien movies were never deep stuff, this one was pretty okay.

The only Alien movies I didn't like where 3 and 4. The rest are all good, including this one.

By the way these movies are prequels to the original Alien film, the way it is implied the Engineers created the virus that creates Neomorphs, but David through genetic engineering created the Xenomorph. So the Alien we all know and love is apparently created by David, I think that's really cool.

>>82751126
You have to read the eu novel 'Alien: Covenant - Origins,' an official prequel set before the film to figure out what happened.

There's no way the facehugger laid an egg in acid-face that quick

Also the xenomorph coming out of the captains chest fully developed, just smaller was retarded

Is the Xeno in this movie the same one from Alien?

We know that the Xenomorph is shown in Prometheus mosaic on the walls. So David perhaps has created a Xenomorph using what he studied from the Engineers science; thus meaning that the Xeno in A:C is actually an attempted copying of the Xeno in Alien and Aliens and may not be an identical copy but be different.

Does anybody know where did David take the alien embryos he takes out of his throat at the end from?

>>82751177
>Everything will be explained in the next movie.
21st Century Scriptwriting

>>82751331
I saw it, thats what I'm saying. - would she have agreed to film scenes if she had known that ultimately she didn't even make it into the movie, all you see of her is her carved up body on a slab, which is a slap in the face to her character.

>>82751368
>created by David, I think that's really cool.
is it summer already?

>>82751500
You don't think it's cool? What are you even watching Alien movies for?

>>82751421
I can't wait for the gifs of tiny xeno waving his arms

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>>82751486
those are stories for another time.

>>82751495
Well I don't think she minds as long as gets paid. Actors get cut out of movies all the time.

>>82751525
Not for some gay homobot to be the one that made the aliens from the real movies people loved.

>>82750871
>Weyland turned that off due to his actions in Prometheus
No you imbecile.
Wayland told him to try harder, and david technically asked for permission to drop the black goo on the drink of the doctor.

Did you even watch the fucking film?

>>82750871
>e bred them using the knowledge he gained from the engineers
Well according to Riddley Scott he DID created them. So it's you vs him now.
Also the space jokey race turned into a bronze age pompei and then again there is no true reason of why david did such things.

You need to stop your damage control anon.

>>82751368

Yes this is the way I understand too.
Also agree that if it turns out David created the Xeno it would be way more interesting than just 'muh mysterious space monster'

>>82751374
I know right, also make sure to get the exclusive limited edition for the secret foreword.
>>82751126
Neeeerd shit

>>82751495
>be James Franco
>give an interview about his character
>it's longer than his performance in the movie
https://youtu.be/7AHGV62xcCQ

>>82751646
I sure hope they release a Thing prequel where some nazi scientist creates it in the 1930s

>>82751274
Well you posted the xenomorph lady from TFA.
Also convenant was trash but plenb normies love to suck it's dick like TFA.

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I could watch this movie again, I seriously enjoyed it. I was actually a bit miffed when it ended, I could have enjoyed another 2 hours of that.

Bravo Ridley.

>>82751595
David isn't gay he was just trying to catch Walter off guard to kill him.

>>82751688
That's not the same thing and you know it.

>>82751721
I'm pretty sure the director's cut will be 4 hours long

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>>82751688
But now you have the tantalising question of who created the Engineers.

>>82751646
>Yes this is the way I understand too.
>Also agree that if it turns out David created the Xeno it would be way more interesting than just 'muh mysterious space monster'
>>82751688

>>82751777
>David isn't gay he was just trying to catch Walter off guard to kill him.

And he cleverly did that because he knew Walter was less human than him and didn't understand what he was doing.

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>>82751606
none of what you said ever happened

>>82749594
Androids and faggot are souless beings, anon. Just accept it.

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Who else liked the twist at the end?

>>82752090
Saw it coming a mile away.

>>82750893
Ever consider that he MIGHT BE LYING

>>82750701
Really? What was interesting about the Engineers?
>And what about the no harming humans protocol that he has?
What protocol was that, then? Because he kills people in Prometheus.
>If david created the xenomorphs then it completely clashes with Alien 1.
Not really, as someon said, they could fill in the details in later films
>Nope, fuck even Prometheus has character development and a lead to empathize with. This had nothing.
Fair

>>82752090
This >>82752104
but I still liked it

>>82749022
Okay retard
>How the fuck a old version of an android (david) can have unlimited acces to a ten trillion dollars space ship made for colonisation, why mother does nothing where there is totaly an intruder in the space ship
> Why is there an statut of Xenomorphe in Prometheus, it didn't exist back then
> Why the space ship crashed in the nature whereas david killed everyone in the planet
> What the point of the enginer, it's like ridley don't want to explain anything so he killed everyone that appear on the screen
>How did the space ship in alien 1 ended here
> Why did everyone in prometheus and alien Co act like retard, is it hard to not wear a mask? To not stay alone? to not touch unknow specimen to not put your head inside an alien egg?

>>82752595
The reveal to Daniels in her claustrophobic hypersleep chamber was very satisfying. I hated her and her cliché action-movie dialogue so much that David, and by extension the interesting, more Promethean aspects of the film, ultimately winning felt like justice.

>Big sci-fi epic to explain the creation of humans and our purpose in the world
>Turns out some naked giant aliens made us purely as breeding materials for other aliens

Oh.

>>82752636
If you directed a movie it would be no fun allowed: the movie.

>>82748276
This.

Is not perfect, but it's fairly good.

>>82752737
Her realising just as she was in the pod was all kinds of creepy and fucked up

>>82752636
people acting like idiots =/= plothole
Also most of those are for Prometheus

>>82748940
Because it's a popular franchise. So every idiot out there wants to share their opinion, and most of them are just stupid.

Like judging a movie is good by the effectiveness of the weapons.

>>82749441
Dude. Parasites on earth that evolved to infect sea creatures 99% of the time fail to do anything in mammals. Parasites are specialised creatures.

To expect an alien parasite to be compatible with a human organism is statistically incredibly unlikely.

>>82753302
>stupid
>saying that when in this movie 90% of the time weapons do nothing

in film the audience expects certain things to serve a purpose or achieve a certain result. A torch provides light, a suit of armour provides protection, etc. When results are lacking the impact of the prop is gone. The whole reason why Alien and Aliens was so tense is because of limited weapons and ammo, leading to the Ripley powerloader scene. And in Alien 3 the plot was that they had zero weapons and had to improvise.

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>>82747731
>old alien
parasite takes days or even weeks to develop, when it emerges its still in a nymph like state

>new hack alien (actually an older, more primitive version of the organism because the movie is a prequel)
fully functioning parasite explodes out of chest within hours

wow I didnt know there was a evolutionary benefit to being vastly inferior

I wish someone just commented if it's a good movie
How is the action, effects, shots, cast, sound?

We already knew the lore would be fucked because prometheus so you nerds can calm down

>>82747731>>82750893


Why can't they just make a well written movie that features aliens in some form or another?

Instead they just took slasher movie tropes and put it in an alien franchise skin to maximize revenue.

>>82754705
Honestly? It's a very good, fun movie. It's a slahser movie, in space, not as good as the first, but a fun kind of B-movie that you can poke fun at and still enjoy. Biggest flaw is probably the cast being too big to keep track of. Plus it looks good. And Katherine Waterson doesn't wear a bra.

>>82754705
>action, effects, shots, cast, sound?

In my opinion all were fairly good.
I can think of one instance of obvious green screen and one shakeycam action scene. On the flip side there were two great action scenes and many instances of seamless CG. The Xeno looked fine, was neither great nor awful.

Cinematography, acting and sound/score were good to great.

I enjoyed the movie, it's entertaining at least and whilst the concept isn't breaking any new ground the direction it goes in the second act was a pleasant surprise

>>82754871
>Instead they just took slasher movie tropes and put it in an alien franchise skin to maximize revenue.
>The first Alien movie wasn't slasher movie tropes in space
Check this guy out

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Can anyone who has now seen all the films explain to me why the Alien didn't kill jonesy.

>>82747731
>DAVID HAS NO MOTIVATION


>Why did you make us?
Because we can

I saw a commercial on TV about Alien:Covenant , it gave a illusion of all shits happen in the movie,
from experience , I know that the better commercial , worst movie.
It was fairly long, some ~2-3 minutes, that means they invested shitload on marketing and that only points studio don't believe in the flick actually.
Maybe as some director cut 4k bluray trilogy in the future, but, idk.
Fuck, I would rather watch some good indie Alien remake(what with everything happening in 2-3 rooms in a spaceship and all) than this overpriced,polished turd.
Honestly, at this point, its really an art to fuck up such IPs(2010-2017) has everyone went mental? So afraid to lose money that they'll lose money at end.

>>82754963
It didn't know how to get to it so it just threw the cage.

>>82754900
>I can think of one instance of obvious green screen
When was that ? On the cargo lifter?
>and one shakeycam action scene.
The David/Walter fight? I didn't like that fight, it had the memey Bourne superfast editing

>>82754253
There very could be but you'd never understand it

>>82755184

Yes when Daniels is shooting whilst hanging of the side of the cargo ship

And yes the fight, I understand it's difficult to do seeing as they are played by the same actor but it still hurt my eyes

movie is good and op is still a faggot
that's life

>>82747731

>David...he is the key to all this

>>82747731
>>david lacks a clear motive/reason for his behaviour

I absolutely hated myself for paying money to see Alien: Covenant because they conned me again with Prometheus 2.

That said, this statement is untrue.

They establish in both Prometheus and the opening intro of Alien: Covenant what David's motivations are.

> Weyland creates David
> David is better in almost every way
> David hates that he was created to serve

Look at the opening scene:

> David plays anything on the piano, names any art piece, etc
> He has been programmed to know everything
> He asks difficult questions of his creator and his creator cannot answer
> He has therefore surpassed his creator
> Weyland has flown too close to the son and will be destroyed by his creation, hence the name Prometheus
> In the end, Weyland asks David to make him some tea and David has no choice but to obey
> He is to live a life of serving those that are proven to be his lessers, etc