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Alien: Covenant isn't that good

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>No backstory at all about the Engineers not their homeworld. David just unleashes chemicals in the air that turns every single Engineer to stone when he arrives at the planet with Shaw
What the absolute fuck

>David talking about monkeys standing up right and how Evolution created Neandorthals
What? But the Engineers created humans...
>That shower sex scene where after the guy dies you see his blood over the naked girl's body.
This felt like an excuse just to show off her tits.

Eh Prometheus is way better than this movie. I really wanted to like this but it was very mediocre. Ridley really could have done better.

The opening scene was very strong though with Guy Pearce reprising his role as Wayland, chatting to David about going on a journey to find the creators of the human race because he doesnt believe in chance Evolution yet why does David then in the second act of the movie talk about Evolution and monkeys standing up right?

Don't get me wrong though. There was good enjoyable scenes with evil David showing off his creation of the Alien but otherwise the movie just felt poor.

Ridley is making another prequel set before this so HOPEFULLY we see more of the Engineers homeworld. Maybe an Apocalypto styled movie set on the Engineers world would work.
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>>82672410
Wait my bad. David already killed Shaw before he arrived on the Engineers world so Shaw wasnt alive then
Fuck the leaked image was true that was posted here a week ago. So annoying this happened
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So these are actually the engineers and not just another creation like humans were?
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>>82672410
>No backstory at all about the Engineers not their homeworld. David just unleashes chemicals in the air that turns every single Engineer to stone when he arrives at the planet with Shaw
>What the absolute fuck
THIS
Fuck Xenomorphs I want to know more about Engineers
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>>82672467
>another creation like humans
this seems to be correct
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>>82672467
No fucking idea now that you bring this point up. No one in the whole movie explains who these guys actually are so I assume they are Engineers.

>Character asks David what the hell is going on here
>David shows his lab where he works on making the first Alien
>Never explains to them this planet or why there is Roman like buildings around
Seriously what the fuck Ridley
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>>82672467
>the dude on the left with the basecap
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>>82672515
>Voldemort on the far left
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Watched Covenant yesterday, it's top-tier kino.

Too many people have been induced into a Marvel-induced stupor and are unable to appreciate art anymore.
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>>82672513
The wrong brother died
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JUST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b79aw9dZLfE
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>>82672467

The engineers are just a different form of humans. We were both created by a different alien race to serve as cattle.
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>>82672544
Please explain your reasons to why this is "kino" because seriously it is not. Fassbender does a 10/10 performance as always but the zero backstory and "LETS THROW IN AN ALIEN KILLING AND CHASING PEOPLE" is what makes this movie really poor.

Also the re use of music str8 out of 1979 Alien felt wrong. WHY use music from the Nostromo crew in this movie with a different crew with a complete different music. There was some good original music and I wanted more of that instead of 1979 Alien music when they are exploring an open field.
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>>82672593
So why not explain this in this movie? Why water it down to just MUH ALIEN MOVIE
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>>82672544
This, it is our penance though for BANE?.
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>>82672594
>Please explain your reasons to why this is "kino" because seriously it is not.

It's mostly an adaptation of At the Mountains of Madness. It's about looking into a dead alien world while realizing how insignificant human life is.

Also the entire David character is a meta-commentary on Ridley Scott creation of the franchise and his attempts at making it grow and expand.
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>>82672593
Why did David speak of evolution of monkeys and neandorthals then?

Did Ridley forget about Prometheus for a few moments when filming this?
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>>82672643
>meta-commentary on Ridley Scott creation of the franchise and his attempts at making it grow and expand.
Even if that would be true it wouldn't say anything about the quality of the movie.
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>>82672629
>So why not explain this in this movie?

It was obvious in Prometheus. The necropolis in Covenant just reinforces this.
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>>82672666
>Why did David speak of evolution of monkeys and neandorthals then?

Because the elder ones created us from monkeys. Much like we created dogs from wolves.
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>The Alien walks up str8
NO. I WANTED HIM TO CRAWL ALL THE TIME LIKE HE WAS IN TRAILER

Also
>That CGI of the Deacon standing next to David
Bloody hell why couldnt that part be practical??

CGI will look 100% fake if not done right.Looks like it needs more rendering.

If u want god tier cgi watch the new planet of apes series.
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>>82672410

>Prometheus is way worse than this movie

Seeing as Prometheus is one of the worst films ever made, that's a pretty damning indictment
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>could have had paradise or alien 5 by blumpkin
>got a shit remake mixed with prometheus for modern horror fans instead
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>>82672642
That's not a quote by Descartes, and as far as anyone knows the quote is actually from /b/. Stop assigning it to Descartes.
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>>82672729
David didnt explain this at all for fuck sake. He never said the Engineers helped create humans.

Ridley really messed up here
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>>82672688
Why do they want to destroy us, if they created us?
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>>82672687

I think it's fun. What do you think this means?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCdQkgSwNoU
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>>82672753
FUCK I MEAN PROMETHEUS IS WAY BETTER OF COURSE

Damn
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>>82672760
not until you return to reddit
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>>82672759

It's not like Prometheus. It's a direct sequel to Prometheus.
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>>82672753
>>82672793
I just re read my post and yes I did say Prometheus is way better.

Why are you mixing my words?
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>>82672801
you are the one using vampire quotes to try and prove your arguments, go back to lgbt this instant.
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>>82672767

It's not the job of the director to spoonfed the audience with obvious information.
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>>82672811
Alien: Covenant feels like a low budget sci fi movie took the idea of Prometheus and just tried to make a fan film while using expensive cgi and props
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>>82672827
it triggers dumb-dumbs, and it's working wonderfully here redditor. off you plod
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>>82672760
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>>82672410
I was hoping the plague would get unleashed on the ship and you'd have the crew fighting off 2000 Xenomorphs, but we spent most of the film on that bland Promethean planet.
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>>82672835
>Obvious information
Jesus this is why BvS is so shit because it explains nothing of Robins death, whereabouts of Joker etc
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>>82672768
>Why do they want to destroy us, if they created us?

Why not? We were just created as slaves, pets, cattle. Our only purpose is to serve them.
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>>82672410
Sounds like the movie was cut to hell in editing like Prometheus.
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>>82672842

It feels a lot like an experimental art film, especially during the second act.

It's amazing that they let him do this.
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>>82672886
Why wasnt the prologue on youtube in the movie as well as the scene of Shaw talking to David before the movie's events that u can find on youtube?

Hope Ridley releases an extended cut (why he never bothered to do one for Prometheus when he did an extended cut for his shitty The Martian).
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>>82672862

That's not the problem with BvS.
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>>82672874
>slaves, pets, cattle
>hurr I destroy my own property that I just created
Ok, I didn't know Prometheus apologists were ITT. Another question though: If they want to destroy us, why did they plant maps to their secret weapon facility on earth?
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>>82672897
Experimental art film? Not in the slightest. It was too Hollywood like to be considered an art film.

Prometheus had a VERY strong first act. Alien: Covenant however had none of the strongness of Prometheus.

Funny how this movie is going to make more people respect Prometheus. Is that Ridley's secret idea?
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>>82672928

Prometheus was like that too, lots of scenes needed to be seen separately on YouTube or as bonus scenes. It's like a puzzle in which you need to find all the parts.
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>>82672981
I downloaded an extended fan cut with all the deleted scenes attached.

Will def re watch Alien Covenant like this otherwise the way it is edited I do not like
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>>82672941

Prometheus was okay but very flawed. The maps were just a device to get the plot going.

Alien Covenant is a lot better though and it doesn't try to create more pointless mysteries.
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>>82672973
>Funny how this movie is going to make more people respect Prometheus.
No it's not shill, Prometheus was fucking garbage and no amount of cocksucking can change that. Covenant is already better just by scrapping most of the retarded engineer shit and Lindlolf.
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David's logic
>LET ME KILL AN ANCIENT CIVILIZATION WHO HAS BUILT A GRAND CITY COS I HATE ALL INTELLIGENT LIFE FORMS AND JUST WANNA CREATE ALIENS
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>>82673017
>The maps were just a device to get the plot going.

I think I been watching movies in this franchise since 1996. How people defend this shit is beyond me tho.
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>>82673037

dude it's art don't you understand art

OH SHIT YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO UNDERSTAND ART, IF YOU DID IT WOULDN'T BE ART ANYMORE
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>>82673020
Literally get the fuck off this thread. How can u prefer an Alien slasher flick to a religious questioning movie of the creation of humans?

Surely the latter is better when we already have FOUR alien movies so why do we need more?
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>>82672973
>It was too Hollywood like to be considered an art film.

The last act was very Hollywoodesque. But the second act was something else entirely, it was nothing like a blockbuster film at all. And the first act was a misdirection.

>Prometheus had a VERY strong first act

Not really, it was pure exposition with neat visuals, but it didn't really served the film well.
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>The way the Aliens tail looks like a dick when the white girl is shagging her black bf and she takes a second to realise its the aliens tail and nit her bfs long black dicm
Fucking hilarious
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>>82673060
Source me on your definition of art.
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>>82673067
The scene with David playing the flute. I agree. That was very artistic and not Hollywood like
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>>82672410
Since I never watched any Alien movie in theaters I was thinking of rewatching Prometheus and go watch Alien: Covenant
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I'm about to hit the cinemas.

Should I watch this or life?

I just want a comfy spoopy space movie to watch like in the old days.
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>>82673059

I don't try to defend the stupid decisions of Damon Lindelof. People wouldn't care about him if he didn't worked with directors like Ridley Scott and Jay Jay.
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>>82673064
>to a religious questioning movie of the creation of humans?
Fairly easily when it's done so fucking hamfistingly stupid, like a 1st year philosophy student who thinks he's deeper than he it.

Not to mention the dialogue and characters were embarrassingly bad in Prometheus, and while Covenant isn't much better, it's a big step up from that garbage.
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>>82673136
Problem is there was no coherent talk about in the first movie at all. Just scenes with people acting without motivation or backstory.
I haven't seen Covenant but Prometheus is undeniably shit.
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>>82673037

Aliens are the ultimate lifeform though.

In one of the original concepts for the first Alien they were supposed to grow into intelligent beings.
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>>82673130

First part of the movie is a comfy space movie. Then it gets crazy.
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>>82672571
insightful commentary...sorry to digress but I bet he would say something similar for the unnecessary Star Wars Prequels.
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>>82673393
He says alot but not much.
Why did David turn crazy?

I know he spyed on Shaw in Promethues but it wasn't implied that he liked her/wanted to rape her.
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Well, in my opinion this movie connected a few things on the previous movie. The Engineer that they met in Prometheus tried to eradicate them because he found out that the humans made another sentient being which can practically live forever. Making a creation that can be immortal will just lead to the immortal overthrowing their creator. From the look of the Engineer's homeland and their technology, they have not made anything like David, an AI or a sentient being.
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>>82673130
>>82673130
Covenant is a beautiful movie, whereas life is a tense film that's tense for the first half and turns to schlock during the second. Prometheus was a beautiful movie with a great otherworldly soundtrack.
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>>82672410
>the Engineers created humans...
>chatting to David about going on a journey to find the creators of the human race because he doesnt believe in chance Evolution yet why does David then in the second act of the movie talk about Evolution and monkeys standing up right?
the engineers "created" life. it's literally the very first scene of prometheus. their life then evolved, clearly
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>>82674079
I think that's why he genocides them because he realises once they find out what he is, he'd probably be killed because they can't accept that.
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>>82673130
if you want to see alien again, watch life.

if you want to see an extremely flawed film made by an old man who's clearly losing his mind, watch covenant

if you're not a pleb, you'll choose the latter and enjoy it
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Did Covenant leak?

Does anyone have a link?
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>>82674388
There was a fifteen minute preview that was put up a few days ago. We've been watching that. It cuts out a lot of stuff but it was juicy enough for people to form their opinions. We had threads about how Ridley made women too real, it was the scene when the black woman panicked or the white woman missed and shot the tank. It was a bit too close to real life. They wanted the black woman to get all Edward Scissor hands with the alien and for the white woman to be like Bullseye and just hit that alien every time she pulled the trigger.

Lots of leftie cunts.
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>>82672410
>Ridley is making another prequel
STAPH!
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What I get from this thread is that Shaw's scenes where she's alive are not in the movie, David talks about evolution despite 100% DNA match between humans and engineers, and we aren't even told that the planet they're on is the engineer homeworld and the aliens getting bombed may just be a more primitive species.

Holy fuck what a mess.
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>>82672515
Hey they gotta look stylish if they're gonna be an undeveloped civilization!
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>>82672410
whose tits again? screencaps?
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It is now canon that David created the xeno...
The movie wasn't bad but Ridley like to take a piss on the Alien mythology
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Torrent when?
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Why would you bring homosexuals on a colonizing mission?

Did I watch the "Prologue : Last Supper" correctly.

all the sentimental, forcing us to care about these people on this mission it isn't working.
I cared the most for James Franco and the woman choking because of empathy for a sick person. And I liked Michael Fassbender because he helped people, even if that is his programming...
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>>82674563
Thanks Anon.
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>>82674833
the xenomorph is first seen at the end of prometheus, no? and its creation has nothing to do with david

>>82674934
james franco is in the movie for about five seconds, and I don't recall any homosexuality (at least not from the crew)
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>>82674934
>Why would you bring homosexuals on a colonizing mission?

They wart part of the crew, the ship had 2000 colons.
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>>82674605
Yeah Shaw isn't alive in this movie.
She may have appeared early on in the process but sometime they decided to not include her.
It's referenced in the film though and it's important. Won't spoil anymore.

I liked the joke that it was just a outpost david bombed. Like a summer camp thing for Engineers.


The film works but if you want answers to the Promethues questions, forget it.... Ridley changed a fuckload just to make this "work."
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Alex Jones said that this movie is trying to warn us of the plans the elite (NWO) have for humanity.
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>>82675071
>I'm not sure what to make of this.
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>>82674956
Anytime.
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>>82675071

Cannot wait.
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>>82674388

It's out in many countries. Many people have watched it (including myself).
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>First Covenant teasers and trailers made it seem like a back to basics feature with gritty aesthetics and characters wearing straw hats

>Turns out it even more pretentious and masturbatory than Prometheus that continues to shit on one of the most beloved dark sci-fi universes because muh philosophy and muh meaning of life

Ridley has gone full Lucas: he hated that his signature movie was great not just because of him (Syd Mead, Giger, Dan O'Bannon), and that people that came after him managed to add their own flair to it (Cameron, Fincher, Jenet) for better or worse. So now he's just fucking retconning it out of subconscious spite.
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>>82675864

You already posted this in the other thread you fucking asspie.
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>>82675938

Well there's multiple threads going on, what i am gonna do, rewrite my opinion justr because i posted it already?
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>>82672760
"Not all quotes you see on the internet are real but it's fun to pretend that they are" -Abraham Lincoln
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>>82675978
>there's multiple threads going on
Moderation on this site is such shit. When a big movie like this comes out Mods should sticky a general and nuke any threads outside of it on sight.
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>>82672410
Question are the two prologues that were released, The one with the crew having dinner, and the one of David carpet bombing the engineers in the movie? Or is it just the viral marketing.

Because honestly id hate for it to be left out
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>>82678109
David carpet bombing the engineers

That's included.

Dinner scene, not sure.

I didn't watch those but seen the film.
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My fellow americans, can u shoot in the head motherfucking Ridley Scott so he couldnt make any shite alien movie and destroy the franchise? THANK YOU
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>>82678376
it has James Franco being sick and going to bed. And then every one has a little party. Then one member starts choking as a red herring. And then knock off Ripley has a speech about how Earth is proud of what they are doing and such.

So the carpet bombing scene is in? So is that the only scene Shaw is in?
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>>82672410
>the next one will be better, honest
t. Damage control shill

Go to bed Ridley
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>>82672515
Probably an electrician or something who got lost on set. Nobody cared enough to do another take.
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>>82672410
>Ridley is making another prequel set before this so HOPEFULLY we see more

How many times will you be fooled?
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>>82672410
i didn't ask
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The main criticism seems to be that there's no backstory.

So? It's absolutely not necessary. It's just exposition that doesn't serve the story or the theme. Why have it at all? I didn't hear you complain about that with alien.
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>>82672410
Were people actually expecting this shit to be good? They should've let Neil Blomkamp make Alien 5: Superman Returns Edition
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>>82672513
Are you mentally challenged?Do you want them to spoonfeed you since you are too retarded to compherend the obvious?
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Prometheus sets up this amazing sci-fi story about discovering mankind's creators, their purpose, etc.
>bbbbb-but muh xenomorphs
>This Alien prequel sux xd xd
>not scary
>Doesn't tickle my childhood memories enough
>gay

So fine, here's your generic alien entry. No more Engineers, no more big picture, here's the god damn slasher flick you all bitched about.
>bbbb-but muh Engineers
>This is trying to be too much like Alien
>gay
>Just a movie about people getting killed
>Ridley is a hack xd xd
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>>82678945
link to the carpet bombing?

the first scene you reference takes place before the film begins, so no that's not in it. it really should have been though, it's pretty crucial context.
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>>82681156
The big picture was David(a man made tool) becoming a self proclaimed god by using the xenomorph pathogen.How the fuck is this generic?He went through an existential crisis and his ego couldnt digest the fact that he was created by some other entity, since his creators were way more flawed than himself.So, he is now on his path to create his own interpretation of life and killing every other creators(including engineers and his own creators).He wants to be the only creator because of his god complex.
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>>82681156
We wanted more Gieger spooky shit, not some lame "atlantis" shit, neither stupid slasher shit. Fuck off, degenerate pleb.
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>>82675864
there's nothing retconned in this or Prometheus (unless you count the Engineer being retconned as a guy in a suit instead of some badass skeleton thing)

The OP seems to be confused about the evolution of the virus. The engineer that drinks and falls into the ocean creates microbial cells that form primordial life, not straight up human life. Evolution still takes place.

the intro to Prometheus takes place millions of years ago.
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>>82681393
Your space bar is malfunctioning.
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>>82681393
>it's another evil android flick
Sure, it's very original, Ridley, sure.
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>>82681393
finally, someone actually talking about the movie it was rather than the movie people wanted it to be.

It gives David a fully believable character motivation: he is immortal and perfect yet he was made to serve man, who is imperfect. he was made to carry out orders and not create things himself, therefore he becomes obsessed with creation.

That's why he surrounds himself with art and music: stuff that is purely the result of creation. He just thinks new alien life forms are a continuation of artistic creation.
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>>82681776
>he is immortal and perfect

What about when that Engineer snapped into him like a Slim Jim?
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>>82681776
Am i hallucinating or is there actually someone that isnt shitposting about this film?
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>>82674934
They had thousands of embryos
They just needed fit capable of handling the terrain and work
>>82674992
The mexican guy was homosexual his partner was the guy who got sick near the ship at night
>>82674992
The facehugger xeno is David's creation
He perfected the weapon, he no longer needed the spores to spread the virus
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What I don't get it's how the spores are formed
It's supposed to infect only animals but the planet had mushrooms with the virus
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>>82681868
sure, but he pretty much genocides them in Covenant, so that's solved.

also he has capeshit powers in this movie for some reason.
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>>82672410
>Ridley is making another prequel set before this so HOPEFULLY we see more
At this point I want this old, senile, demented Alzheimers fuck to eat shit and DIE.
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>>82681958
I think they were dormant particles looking for a host, not infected organisms yet. the mushrooms may have just contained them because it was everywhere in the soil.
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>>82681958
David has experimented with the pathogen thus creating alternative ways to spread the embryo.They are simply working as tools to spread the xenomorph embryo just like the eggs.Its is a creation to spread the xenomorph embryo, not a tool to infect the plants.
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>>82672874
Imagine you search your younger years to find the perfect mate, the love of your life.
You create a child with her; a beautiful daughter.
You dedicate your entire life, your strength and time just for her.
Eventually she grows up into a woman.
And although you thought you did everything right with her, that woman starts to fuck NIGGERS.

Imagine that.

Now you understand why the engineers want to wipe out mankind, although they did create us.
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The opening scene and David's character was the closest thing this came to being a worthwhile film.
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>>82672731
The alien standing straight looks 100% more creepy and menacing than it crawling, you pleb nigger.
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>two xenomorphs job to clueless shitters armed with 20th century weapons
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>>82674934
This bugged me also but the people who appear in the movie are a 15 man crew in a ship with 2000 sleeping colonists. Also, you don't see any of that gay shit of the prologue in the movie, just at the point were one of the gays dies the other one stands by his side and whispers "my love..." or smthn like that for 2 seconds.
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was the action good? the nu-marine contractor types with the spess-armalite kits looked pretty neat. and shoulder lamps. Any cool gunfights a la aliens?
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>>82682938
Nope. it's basically the tall grass scene from Jurassic Park 2 but worse and it's over really quickly.

The rest of the alien scenes are overly familiar if you've seen literally any other alien movie.

there's also a fight scene that looks like a Marvel superhero showdown and it's almost incomprehensibly edited. Shaky cam, overly cropped framing, you name it.
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>>82672410
Fuck you I liked it.

Yeah some things go against the movie's "internal logic", like how did David manage to get the same xenomorph that the engineers got in the first movie by pure mutation.

Or how a patogen wich only works with animals (according to the movie) ends creating a plant with pollen working as a vector for the xenomorph.

But it was tense, technically amazing, well acted, good characters dying everywhere, well used R rating and the twist in the end, although not completely surprising, was delivered proplerly.
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>>82683114
god damn it.
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>Ash was the only good part of Alien
>Nothing good about Aliens
>Nothing good about Alien 3
>Call was the only good part of Resurrection
>David was the only good part of Prometheus
>David is the only good part of Prometheus 2: No Lore Boogaloo
>David will be the only good part of Alien: Crucifixion

Shocker.

Stop pretending this franchise is good.
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>>82681776

>where did humans come from? who made us? who made those who made us?
>lol i dunno, have a saga about some random robo dude with a god complex

The question is, why should anybody give a shit about David?
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>>82683284
Michael Fassbender is the best part of every movie he's in
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>>82672467

wtf is this Star Trek looking shit doing in Alien?
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>>82672544
>Too many people have been induced into a Marvel-induced stupor

Covenant has turned Alien into capeshit with a supervillain.
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>>82683330
Well there's no denying that.
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>>82683293
cause it's Fassy and he's great in everything. What else is there to care about at this point.

>>82683357
hoo boy are you in for a shock.
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>>82672410
>Ridley makes Prometheus
Fuck the engineers we want more aliens

>Ridley makes Covenant
Fuck the aliens we want more engineers
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>>82672544
>>82683441

>muh capeshit

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST STOP DEFENDING A FUCKING HACK WITH DEMENTIA, THE MOVIE IS BAD CUZ IT WAS BADLY DIRECTED AND BADLY WRITTEN
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>>82683560
Dont take illiterate underage faggots seriously.They dont know what they want and they are mostly close minded faggots that do nothing but shitposting on a vietnamese image forum.
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>>82672835
>obvious information
>obvious
I can imagine shit too
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>>82683560
We wanted more Gireger work. Fuck you, dumbass.
Scott is a hack.
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>>82683560
I think people wanted MORE Engineers in Prometheus, and instead got an Alien remake with slightly more emphasis on Ash/Weyland/Engineers. Slightly being the operative term, considering the trailers practically covered all of the Engineer footage leaving us with two hours of shit people had seen before.
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>>82681884
>He perfected the weapon, he no longer needed the spores to spread the virus

Airborne microscopic spores that cause a fully formed alien to bust a person are much more dangerous than the traditional Xeno. Unless David has an autistic personal definition of perfection he talks about?
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>>82683749
kek.

can someone edit DJ Engineer into this?
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>>82683684
>t. brainlet nigger
okay
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>>82683752
>people wanted MORE Engineers
People want space jockeys, not the shit Scott gave to them. Fuck, even fan art is far superior that lame shit they made.
>JUST
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>>82672410
Your second point is stupid and annoying. Engineers created life on Earth.
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>>82672410
you idiots complained about how much you hated Prometheus cause it made you have to think now you brain dead fools are mad they made a hack and slash horror flick that you wanted Prometheus to be? lmao
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>>82684744
Welcome to /tv/
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>>82680843
>wanting to see a bunch of South African pmcs try to fight the alien, then learn the real reason the alien is hostile is some form of allegory for apartheid
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Anyone else catch the Blade Runner reference? Gave me a chuckle but it's sad how few people in the cinema will get it.
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>>82685417

What? Tell me about this
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>>82685536
When David attacks Daniels and throws her around the room, she stabs him with the nail she keeps on a necklace. David stops and says "That's the spirit!", like Roy.
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>>82681393
I am truly now Prometheusâ„¢ and have an Alien Covenantâ„¢ with these creatures.

Jesus Christ Ridley!
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>>82681874
lol
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>>82672467

The engineers suffered a societal collapse and went back to savagery
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>>82673209

>In one of the original concepts for the first Alien they were supposed to grow into intelligent beings.

How do you know they don't?
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>>82682177
kek
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Prometheus:
> They find life on another planet
> They are astounded by it

10 years pass

Alien: Covenant

> Crew finds an Alien ship
> No reaction
> Crew finds a room of Engineer space suits
> Quip time: "I guess they were giants"
> Crew is attacked by Alien beings
> Not one reaction other than fear, no Bill Paxton style "What the fuck was that??!?!?"
> Crew is taken to an entire alien city
> No reaction

How did humans get so accustomed to alien life and civilisation that the crew are so blase about it?
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>>82672467
they weren't big guys
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>>82673831
he explains why he liked her: because she helped repair him. he already was a little psycho in Prometheus if you don't remember: he was the one who brought the infection onto the ship and didn't tell anyone about it.
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>>82675864

why do you want to watch the same movie over and over? say what you will about prometheus but it was something new. capeshitters like you puked it up so now we get TFAliens
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>>82686138
I remember that but it's a huge leap don't you think.

Shouldn't it be the opposite way round?
If someone shows you kindness, you don't rape them, cut them up and then experiment with their body.

He made a grave so there's that but that's still pretty bad.

How did he go crazy anyway?
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>>82686300
>How did he go crazy anyway?
Have you even SEEN the movies, anon?
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>>82681156

prometheus was a perfect movie wasted on a flawed audience
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>>82672768
We killed Jesus Christ
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>>82686350
I'm worried that you might genuinely believe this.
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>>82686300
he didn't rape her but yeah sure it's a little weird.

I still thought he was crazy in Prometheus though.
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>>82686344
Yes. All of them.

How did he go crazy?

There's a step from curiously infecting crew to straight up murdering someone who helped you and then deciding to genocide the human race and the engineers.
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>>82672467
Which one of those guys is Prometheus ?
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>>82686384
He didn't? It's implied he did, or that's what I got out of it.

>>82686394
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>>82672461
Killed shaw off screen ? What a fucking shitty cop out.
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>>82686394
>There's a step from curiously infecting crew
If you don't think that's crazy i regret to inform you that you need to seek help ASAP before you hurt someone.

Also:
Watch the movies again.
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>>82686030
Pretty sure Ridley forgot how the fuck humans work.

The first Alien film has perfect dialogue and believable characters.
How did it end up like this?
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>>82684232

Fucking this. Prometheus was instantly ruined for me the second they went "It's a helmet!" on the head...fuck, fuck, fuck Prometheus.
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>>82672410
>No backstory at all about key lore
So, a standard Hollywood sequel
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>>82686434
No? Where did they imply it?

You see what he did to her body. She was presumably the first host that gave him an alien spawn to experiment on.

>>82686446
why are you spoiling it for yourself this close to release. what are you doing with your life.
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>>82684232
Shit that image of Prometheus is fucking creepy.
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>>82686467
look who wrote the films.

hint: the people who wrote this came from cartoons, capeshit and Transcendence. the person who wrote Prometheus was fucking Damon Lindelof
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>>82686457
That wasn't crazy though at least in my mind. He just wanted to see what would happen.- he asked as well. "anything and everything" was the reply.

>>82686520
When he kisses Daniels and said that she's pretty and that he'd do the same to her as he did to Shaw.
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>>82686613
>When he kisses Daniels and said that she's pretty and that he'd do the same to her as he did to Shaw.
yeah I assume that meant use her as a human host for alien spermz.

he also kissed Walter but he didn't rape him. pretty sure David doesn't even have a dick.
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>ending scene in Prometheus is david and shaw flying away on the alien ship
>sequel is them on the same planet and shaw dying off screen because retarded writing

Don't waste your time or money for this dreck.
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>>82686613
>That wasn't crazy though at least in my mind
As I said.
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>>82686708
I took that as rape/love etc.
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>>82681776
>characters motivation is all about how he is immortal and will be stuck around forever
>he's not actually immortal, he just doesn't age, and can still be killed by someone

this is a gay enough trope in vampire fiction I dont need it with my robots
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>>82686380

oh i do. how it even got made in our current climate is a miracle. it was a once in a decade movie on par with matrix, blade runner and 2001
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