Do you think they sufficiently "paid the toll" in this film?

>>82638739
It made me cringe so much I couldn't even finish it. What happened in the end?

>>82638739
whats this movie about

>>82638739
this movie makes me want to fuck 13 year olds. I'll bring it up in court if i ever get to and then have to explain myself before god and a jury of my peers

>>82638973
Degeneracy

>>82638997
I'm sorry friend, but this post doesn't answer the question in the OP. Please apologize and think harder about posts in the future.

>>82639103
Films are degeneracy in general.

are those tongue studs or drug pills?

>>82639488
movies about teenage girls sure are.

Going by hollywood standards no girl ever goes through puberty without hating her parents, getting gang-banged and snorting coke of a black guys dick.

>>82639559
this is true in America and Sweden at the very least, probably a few other places too.

>>82639765
its really not true.

People always act like going "wild" is now the natural thing to do for chicks but most girls i grew up with just went to the club with their girlfriends on weekends, got a little drunk and started going steady with one guy losing their virginity around 16-18.

Im willing to bet thats the majority but people tend to focus on the trainwrecks and the shit they see on TV.

>>82640060
This. Most girls i met in college were virgins even... freshman year at least.

>>82638997
I legit fapped to it. There really is no message it's more softcorwe pedo porn

>>82640395
lol, where u go to uni? there was only one girl at my rez that was a virgin, and she was kinda dumpy

>>82640647
Are you kidding? Its about girls growing up to fast due to degenerate cultures and influences. Its about how it is exclusively destructive in nature. And about the continued pervasive dangers of brown "people" to wholesome, good whites. It is kino

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>all the girls that started acting like them at school when it came out
i wish i could go back

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>>82640060
>>82640395

>>82639765
It's only remotely true in los angeles since that's where the nigger music industry is based

>be rob kardashian
>be successful lawyer
>send your kids to expensive private school
>they still all end up falling in with the hip hop scene and getting gang banged by niggers for a living

that place is like a whirlpool of sickness and niggery.

I have no idea why anyone would want to raise their children there.

>>82641013
sdgsdg

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>MFW my first born was a boy

>also MFW I told my wife we are done having children. She bore me a male heir and I don't want to deal with the possibility of raising a crazy female.

>>82641296
>having only one child
>only passing one half genome's worth of your genes, what makes you you
>replacing two white people with only a single white person

not much to brag about.
two is the minimum to even leave as much of yourself in the world as there was before you died.
you need 3 or more children before you can start feeling successful.

>>82641497
>only passing one half genome's worth of your genes, what makes you you

There is no other option you fucking waterhead. Are you implying that having two kids is a complete copy of your DNA because each kid is half you and half you partner?

Holy shit you don't know how genes work at a basic level

>>82639548
Dick sucking studs

>>82641497
Only poor people and mormons have more than two children, welfarefag.

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>>82641626
Yes goy, don't pass on your genes. There are other more fulfilling things like wage slavery and endless consumption. You'd miss out on Facebook time! Trust us, when you're old you'll be glad that you had all that me time on 4chan

>>82641497
Success is determined by how many children you can keep alive. Good one

>>82641859
In case you haven't noticed, there is no meaning in the universe. Finding fulfillment in a career or "expressing yourself" are complete Jewish inventions designed to sell shoes and movie tickets. If you are an atheist, the reality of genetic continuity is the closest thing to objective meaning and lasting impact a person can have. If you are a Christian, there is a great deal of meaning in raising a family. If you are a Muslim, kill self.

The idea that there is any other metric of success than reproduction is pure garbage. Sorry you've been lied to your whole life because giant corporations and governments have agendas to fulfill based on reproductive rates and you were determined to be more profitable without children.

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>>82641497
All whites need to have at least TEN CHILDREN minimum. ten white children for every two white people is the minimum.

>>82642017
A movie about teenage degenarcy, turns into what meaning life has if any wew lad

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>>82641626
mel gibson and clint eastwood both have like 9 kids. Real men have lots of children. genghis khan had at least 10 children.

jews want you to only have two kids. jews also want you die.

>>82641626
>>82641859
>subhuman manchildren who are the problem detected

>>82640863
Destroying your life isn't "growing up".

>>82638739
>(((Evan Rachel Wood)))
>(((Nikki Reed)))

>>82638739
God I fucking hated this movie

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Baby V.

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>>82638997

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Excellent thread, kinda overrated movie

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>>82643853

>>82643853
and im just not supposed to develop a lolita fixation

>>82643757
What the fuck?

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My parents made my sister watch this when she was 13/14
>24 with a half black 2 year old
Huwhoops!

>>82644056
>made
...you mean let?

>>82643948
haha, don't you just hate little girls, I love grannies haha.

>>82644168
I mean they rented it, sat her down, put it on and sat either side of her for two hours

>>82644225
weird.

>>82644182
haha yeah........

>>82641551
Not that anon, but statistically you are likely to get more than half your genome if you have more than 1 kid. Most likely the second sperm isn't going to have every exact chromosome that was in the first sperm, several will be the opposite in the pair. Remember, for each chromosome in the sperm there were 2 versions of it in the primary spermatocyte, except in rare cases like yours where the spermatocyte has 3rd copy of chromosome 21.

>>82641296
if you are white and your wife is white and you dont have at least five kids then your kind will be doomed to enslavement by the hands of arabs and africans.

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>>82644047

>>82644441
fucking lol

>>82644441
>>82643757

I don't understand what the fuck is happening in this movie and why it's shot so poorly.

>>82644670
that's the aesthetic

>>82644670
it's about two 13y/o who discover drugs and sex.
utter garbage but still nominated for a fuckton of awards.
>6.8 on imdb
just look at the webms here. it's basically cp

>>82644818
I wouldn't go that far. It's very up its own ass. It's not really arousing in anyway, the webm I posted of the 3 some ends a split second after the webm does with him kicking both of them out after realising how fucked up they're being.

>>82644702
The aesthetic is looking like filtered shit?

>>82644915
Sure. But remember what site we're on...

>>82641497
>t. forever alone permavirgin

>>82642017
>The idea that there is any other metric of success than reproduction is pure garbage
Neanderthal detected

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>>82645005
Well yeah, hence why the webm ends where it does and is completely out of context to the movie.

To be fair though I'm struggling to think of movies similar to 13 from the US. You have films like Waterlilies and Innocence from France and the various films from Scandinavia - but the US doesn't really do teen "realistic" teen degeneracy/exploration (unless I'm just having a brain freeze)

>>82642017
Found the infertile guy.

>>82645118
Sorry this isn't an argument or an interesting post. You just haven't thought that hard about life and probably spend a lot of time on facebook. Say something interesting that shows you have given a thought to the values and metaphysical principles you apparently feel strongly about or just stop posting/kill yourself.

>>82642128
>he has to tell other white people to have children because he knows no one will ever have sex with him

>>82644363
What an elobrate way to call someone a downie

>>82642017
>rambles about self expression being unimportant in a self indulgent 4chan post

Why aren't you out breeding right now retard?

>>82644818
Its not basically cp ken park is basically cp

>>82645268
Not sure where you're going with this. You sound like a stupid person. I'll give you one (1) more post to say something interesting though. Give it a try, big guy.

>>82645157
Foxes?

>>82645457
im going to take this as you admitting you've never reproduced or attempted to reproduce and your only actual accomplishments in life are 4chan posts.

>>82645195
Metaphysics is the absolute worst branch of philosophy/theology. Completely disregard this poster

>>82645507
Oh I get it, you're trying to do some weird ad hominem thing. I don't care about that. It's kind of funny. Because I have a job and family, I assume other posters do as well. But then someone like you comes along and INSISTS that everyone is some NEET that can't talk to strangers.

I'm not saying you're projecting, but it really really feels like you might be...

>>82645537
Philosophy is stupid, but even in the context where it should be taken seriously, you have no idea what you're talking about.

>>82645496
Don't know that one, just looking it up. The one with Jodie Foster from 1980?

>>82645195
I don't know, man, I just think that's a very shallow and reductive way of looking at life and the meaning of legacy. What if you write a great book that millions of people read for generations and generations or direct or star in a film that becomes a classic, but you go to your grave without having had any kids? Does that mean that your life was worthless? That one factor of your life invalidates all other achievements if it is not accounted for? Seems like a pretty unhealthy attitude towards human existence, and a fairly selfish outlook in general (only by spawning more of yourself can your being be worthwhile).

Let's say one night you go to a bar somewhere in a dusty town in Arizona. Some guy is in there playing pool, and he challenges you to a match for one reason or another. You beat him by an incredible margin, and everyone in the bar is amazed beyond belief. They've never seen someone play pool that well. You leave town the next day, but everybody keeps talking about you. You become a quasi-legendary figure in the little town, a mystical man who walked in to the bar one day, played the greatest pool anyone's ever seen, and left the next morning without telling people his name. Now let's say back home, you have a kid. This kid grows up over time and lives a fairly ordinary life, gets married, has 2.5 kids of their own and dies within a 20 mile radius of their birthplace. What then is your greater legacy? The ordinary kid who achieved virtually nothing, or the town in Arizona where you're Robin Hood?

>>82645670
>Philosophy is stupid
This is the dumbest thread I've seen in a long time.

>>82645728
Yea.
There is also Kids(1995)

>>82645670
I have only read Camus,Sartre,Nietzsche, Plato,Aristotle,Hegel, Heidegger, Schopenhauer, Tillich,st anslem, st Thomas aquinas in addition to the bible,the tao the ching and confuicious analects

Why are Americans so fucking awful at making gritty coming-of-age/teenage dramas?

Kids is pretty much the only decent one.

>>82646158
Oh yeah Kids, thats pretty iconic

>>82646342
Ken park

>>82646342
River's Edge was OK.

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>>82646158
Both written by the same person, Spring Break doesnt really fit though, although I do kinda wanna watch it again anyway - not sure why though.

Why hasnt anyone made a porno where they use those studs against them.

like poke their tongue out and then use a rope to close their mouth enough that the stud holds the tongue out.

>>82646269
>Nietzsche, Schopenhauer

If you've read this pair you should really read The Critique of Pure Reason for context and to have your mind properly expanded. It is legitimately brilliant.

>>82643853
I can't help but remember when a 13 year-old pulled this off behind me on a school bus. 8th grade was one hell of a year.

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>>82638739
LOL i love how this movie is stealth racist: teen girls do degenerate stuff like drinking, doing drugs, smoking, dating black boys, kissing older teens, etc.

>>82647410
>tfw a girl let me finger her in the back seat of the bus in 8th grade

I've never even had a girlfriend, and have had zero experience with women since then.
I'm a goddamn loser.

>>82646071
>selfish outlook
This is where I stopped reading because I won't tolerate arbitrary libshit "arguments" like this. As to the rest of what you said, literature is dead and books don't sell anymore. Most famous writers are now considered uninteresting because "muh white men".

But my point is: what underlying rationale for your existence actually makes other people reading a book you wrote matter? Don't say something trite like "making a difference". Why does it actually matter.

It doesn't. Life is nothing more than the reproduction of acids that trigger the production of sets of proteins and the reactions those proteins catalyze. That is the closest thing to meaning that I can see.

All I see from you is denigrating wholesome family life, and idealizing something you and most like you will never have. Hurr I move to big city and acted self important and at best worked for a low salary or made middle management with people who didn't give a fuck about me. Or, I had 15 minutes of fame.

There's a reason so many people in old age, especially women who skipped out on child bearing, end up on psychiatric meds for depression and anxiety. It's all a fucking meme. "Greater legacies" don't exist except for in your own head, which dies. How many people who have died in your life have you thought about for more than 15 minutes?

>>82639765
>>82640060
Studies have proven that our generation (fellow millenial trash, grandpa get out of /tv/) is the one that has the least sex on median and average ever recorded (to be fair records only go back to second quarter of 20th century).

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>>82647531

>mfw according to /reddit9k/ you're a "normie" because you have touched a vagina

>>82647618
>all this persecution complex

>>82647510
>LOL i love how this movie is stealth racist
kill yourself. so tired of leftists talking about racism.

>>82645622
How is it a weird ad hominem? You literally said expressing yourself is stupid and reproducing is the only measure of success in life. So far, all I've seen you do is express yourself on an image board of all things. You don't like being held to your own standards?

>>82647735
what the fuck are you talking about? i hope you quoted the wrong post because otherwise you don't know what persecution means, faggot.

>>82647698
I'm not a normie, I was just friends with a girl in middle school who had super low self-esteem.

If I was a normie, I would be in a healthy and fruitful relationship by now.

>>82642214
>genghis khan had at least 10 children.
More like 10.000 of them. The man is the biggest rapist in history.

Why do you guys hate black people so much?

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>>82647784
>the only thing i've seen you do on this image board is post on this image board
Stellar post. Stellar argument. Well thought out.

>>82647795
>hurr muh white men are being victimized
>hurr libtards are somehow ruining my family
>ranting for hours on end

Yeah you've got a persecution complex buddy, and this reply only reinforced it.

>>82647870
It's your argument though, not mine. I don't think there's anything wrong with expressing oneself. You clearly do, and clearly get very upset when someone points out you're not the Alpha Male Who Only Makes Babies you think you are.

>>82647802

I know, I'm just saying they are fucking retarded.

>>82647886
Oh so you didn't read the post you quoted. I'm guessing you're also not white, which might mean you just don't have "they reading compruhenshun"
>it's a triggered shitskin gets uppity and accuses a white human of having an emotion
Ok, boy...

>>82647750
dumb fuck it is racist the black guys aint even gang members they just bad bc they are black

>>82647802
Where is that girl now? Connect with her and see if she'll let you finger her with your penis.

>>82647827
Probably too much interaction with them, or being too sensitive to the quality of their environment.
I've gone back to a mere mild uncomfortable distaste for them (as opposed to hateful rage) the day I moved and just stopped seeing them.

>>82647947
Can't decide whether this is hilarious or agonising to read. You have one hell of a persecution complex and you write like a lunatic.

>>82647827

Watch the news.

>>82647971
I don't know. I've tried Googling her but don't get any results.

>>82647618
>This is where I stopped reading because I won't tolerate arbitrary libshit "arguments" like this
Good grief. Sorry I hurt your feelings or whatever.

Why does it matter? Because it shows that people appreciate that which you have created. It feels good to get up in the morning knowing that you have crafted something that makes someone else's life a little easier or helped them learn something or gave them escapism or even just helped them waste a few hours. It's a genuinely lovely feeling. It's rewarding as all hell to help other people with their shit. You're stuck in a rut about the "self", but what is life without some form of human interaction (not even necessarily direct contact, just the knowledge that you have given someone a hand as in the example before - it's genuinely priceless).

I'd reply to the rest of it but I can barely understand what any of it is even saying. I'm not trying to be a dick or anything, but your tone just becomes utterly incoherent in the second half of your post. Then again, you only read half of mine by your own admission, so I guess that puts us both on a level playing field.

>>82645157
How about Larry Clark's filmography?

>>82648043
but i thought the news was lies

>>82643853
Wait

Youre telling me this isnt pornography?

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>>82647618