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Why did Kim become famous after their sex tape while Ray J's

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Why did Kim become famous after their sex tape while Ray J's career fell off a cliff?
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mmm she had the juicey pusey!
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She's beautiful

He's a run of the mill, diamond dozen nog
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>>82534934
woman vs man
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Not OP, but if anyone could explain why she is famous at all in the first place would be amazing.

>inb4 her porno

There are plenty of people with pornos that don't become the most famous woman on the planet.
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>>82534934
> American women become celebrities by getting BLACKED
can't make this up.
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ray j isn't a model.

ray j also didn't have the tv/social media connections that kim K did. She's a success of networking.
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>>82535011

Her sex tape is really the only reason she became so well known.
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>>82534934
Because Kim is hyper- intelligent with an >165 IQ.
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>>82535025
>ray j also didn't have the tv/social media connections

You seriously think Ray J didn't have any tv/social connections?

He had his own reality dating show.
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>>82535011
She has ambition and is actually fucking smart. She played the game. She has a mom who tried to do the exact thing Kim has done. So the momager taught her all her ways and helped her avoid mistakes. Kim also grew up wealthy and connected in LA. She met and fucked the right people. Got a small tv show that blew up because she linked with Ryan Seacrest who is a producer with a shit ton of juice in Hollywood. Then she bagged Kanye who, regardless of substance, has been one of the most influential artists of the 21st century. It's not luck. The Kardashians have dumb charisma and they understand pop culture trends and gamesmanship.
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>>82535011
The sex tape got her family's reality show off the ground.

The show promoted her and the others as style icons/gurus and trend setters.

The trends make them money.

The money lets them set trends.

The trends make them money.

The money lets them set trends.

The trends make them money.

The money lets them set trends.

etc.
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>>82535057
Anon, you aren't comprehending what I'm asking.

I'm wondering how a short, talent-less, homevideo pornstar ex-maid became an A-list celebrity worth hundreds of millions of dollars (valued at billions) while bringing nothing to the entertainment industry.
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>>82535164
She's basically one of those youtube lifestyle vloggers, except she did it first and she has the Hollywood connections, so she and the family made bank.
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>>82535164
see
>>82535071
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>>82534974
>diamond dozen
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>>82535011

It was the porno, along with the association with other celebrities.
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>>82535202
>>82535156
>>82535153
This is actually pretty depressing. A skill-less whore is praise by hundreds of millions of people for no other reasons but these.
Says a lot about society and the nature of human beings, doesn't it.
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>>82534934
Because Black woman was the only group supporting him, but when they saw that he had a sex tape with a "white" girl they dropped him for good.
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>>82535164
Because she isnt talentless nor and ex maid. She used Paris Hilton for connections and leapfrogged her. She's a gameplayer with a sneaky smile.
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>>82535011
The family played the game correctly. Kim and her mom are not dumb people. Kim was also Paris Hilton's footservant, so it wasn't too much of a jump from Paris to her.
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>>82535164

she found a legit genie
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>>82535299
I know right, people never cared about fashion or idolised the famous and rich before the Kardassians.

Fucking whores destroying society
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>>82535299
She is just new-age skilled. She works social media and reality tv like she invented it. Sure she can't build a table or perform an operation but she can manipulate the emotions of the youth to buy her shitty iphone game and make $100mil.
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>>82535299
>skill-less
She may be a whore, but she isn't skill-less. Bitch knows how to hustle, and marketing students should read up on how she and her mom pulled it off. It's pretty much a stroke of genius.
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her pussy absorbed him and he was never heard from again
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>>82534934
Because Ray J didn't sell the collective souls of his entire family to the Devil for undeserved fame.
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>>82535153
>and is actually fucking smart

Can we stop with this meme?
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>>82535485
You don't make 100m dollars being retarded
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>>82535237
I hole-hardedly agree, but allow me to play doubles advocate here for a moment. For all intensive purposes I think you are wrong. In an age where false morals are a diamond dozen, true virtues are a blessing in the skies. We often put our false morality on a petal stool like a bunch of pre-Madonnas, but you all seem to be taking something very valuable for granite. So I ask of you to mustard up all the strength you can because it is a doggy dog world out there. Although there is some merit to what you are saying it seems like you have a huge ship on your shoulder. In your argument you seem to throw everything in but the kids Nsync, and even though you are having a feel day with this I am here to bring you back into reality. I have a sick sense when it comes to these types of things. It is almost spooky, because I cannot turn a blonde eye to these glaring flaws in your rhetoric. I have zero taller ants when it comes to people spouting out hate in the name of moral righteousness. You just need to remember what comes around is all around, and when supply and command fails you will be the first to go. Make my words, when you get down to brass stacks it doesn’t take rocket appliances to get two birds stoned at once. It’s clear who makes the pants in this relationship, and sometimes you just have to swallow your prize and accept the facts. You might have to come to this conclusion through denial and error but I swear on my mother’s mating name that when you put the petal to the medal you will pass with flying carpets like it’s a peach of cake.
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>>82535237
It's a doggy dog world
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>>82534934
>Ray J's career fell off a cliff

He unironically doesnt give a shit. He still gets a $14,500 a month check from royalties from the video, he always posts the checks on his twitter. Imagine that, he had sex with a whore and filmed it, and for that he earns a doctors salary every year for life.

Capitalism and Jews were big fucking mistakes
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>>82535553
>He unironically doesnt give a shit. He still gets a $14,500 a month check from royalties from the video, he always posts the checks on his twitter.

Dude made a song talking about fucking Kim as a diss to Kanye.

He's beyond salty as fuck for missing out.
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>>82535553
99% of celeb wannabes will never make it.

It's all down to luck in the end; he fucked the right woman at the right time and won the lottery
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>>82534934
because she was friends with a bunch of other famous people

but the real question is how do we save kanye from her /tv/?
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Kardashian's are succubus, they stole his energy. The same happened to Oden and Jenner who was forced to take female hormones to stop the succubi from stealing his energy.

Kanye is slowly getting sapped only a matter of time before he goes full crazy.
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>>82535485
Its not a meme. She may not be able to quote Plato or understand game theory but you dont just trip into $150m networth.
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>>82535630
It's too late for him, he'll only slow us down
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>>82535609
>Dude made a song talking about fucking Kim as a diss to Kanye

Not really, you dont understand tyrone culture like I do (I live around them) Hes simply insulting Kanye and basically called him a cuck for having his leftovers. Yes it was a diss and he probably wanted attention, but its not being "salty" hes just calling kanye a cuck
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>>82534963
Based puseyposter!
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>>82534974
>She's beautiful
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>>82534934
Ray J is an untalented asshole who was only famous because Brandy is his sister, Kim is hot.
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>>82534934
Kim Kardashian went on to marry Kanye West. Ray J did not go on to marry Kanye West.

>>82535011
Deal with the devil, maybe?
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>>82535011
She's not Elizabeth II.
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>>82535931
Most people aren't
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>>82535741
Irregardless of your subjective opinion, she influenced a generation of women and set a new standard for beauty.
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>>82535691
>Hes simply insulting Kanye and basically called him a cuck for having his leftovers.

which is funny because kim has been a big hollywood slut for years before ray j got a piece
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>>82536103
She has some Jessica Alba shit going on in 2
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>>82536103
Ray J was before all those lol
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>>82536170

pretty sure nick was dating her on and off before ray j and called it quits after the sex tape.
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>>82536103
You guys think OJ hit it when she was way younger? Her dad was one of his lawyers.
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>>82535525
You said it brother, plane and simple
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>idiot masses love drama
>make as much drama as possible
>become mega rich
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>>82535237
>Being this new
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>>82534934
The same reason nobody gives a fuck about the dude in porn.
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>>82536315
She was apparently his god-daughter.
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>>82534934
Because Paris Hilton was very famous and Kim Kardashian was her curvy friend.
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>>82535237

>gorilla warfare
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Ray J birthed the culture though so he'll be a legend forever

https://youtu.be/6JfKDt9KsF4
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People wanted to see more of Kim's hot body. Any big dick nig could replace Ray J.
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>>82534974
>diamond dozen
My sides
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>>82535153
>most influential artists of the 21st century
yeah not really
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memes aside, she really does know her way around a cock.
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>>82539352
Name three (3) that beat him
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>>82535691
>I bet me and Ray J'd be friends
>If we ain't love the same bitch
>Yeah he might have hit it first
>Only problem is I'm rich
Think Kanye won that one
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>>82539395
I agree that he is one of the most influential but let me take a crack at that
>Radiohead
>Arcade Fire
>Drake
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>>82539604
Why do black people settle their disputes in song?
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>>82539646
>drake
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>>82534934
Her mom made a deal with the devil
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>>82535011

Her dad was the lawyer for OJ Simpson which is prob the whole reason he became a household name
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>>82539352
In Pop Culture at least. His music created a whole wave that changed rap and hip hop. Definitely influential.
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>>82539737
>implying his influence levels haven't surpassed ye in his prime
Drake may not have blown up if not for 808, but let's be honest here musical ability =/= influence
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>>82534934
Ray J's still got some longevity in certain communities

That radio interview he did while drunk talking about how he's going to have a rapper he was beefing with at the time raped by gay people in his entourage is still infamous
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>>82539662
They don't. But beefing is a rap thing. And rap is primarily a black thing.
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If Kim didn't become famous we'd be seeing her as a regular on BLACKED and memeing her latest bbc vid...

all that fap potential wasted
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>>82535153
>Then she bagged Kanye
No she didnt just bagged him. He was the ultimate beta orbiter when it comes to Kim. The faggot used to get off on her sex tape. He waited like a good nog for her to get out of her marriage.
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>>82539662
diss tracks/lines are a part of hip hop culture
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>>82539844
Yeah Drake's in the same category I'd say. Ye's biggest musical prime so far was 2000's. He moved rap past 50 cent and into a more playful area that I think helped pave the way for a guy like Drake to take the game to the place he's taken it now.
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>>82539945
Drake has transcended rap. He's practically a pop star
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>>82539604
>Loving a girl that has fucked more black guys than a pornstar

He's going to get fucking JUSTED so hard lmao
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>>82539938
Lmao Kanye West is not a beta. This is a marriage of power as well as lust. They have similar networths. Around $150million each. They are empire builders and you're shitposting on your laptop after mopping floors all day,
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>>82539945
>drake
>rap
kanyee has barely been a rapper for the last 10 years too
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>>82536126
That's because that was Jessica Alba-era in hollywood at the time back then she was the standard for beauty

Thanks to plebes were in the Kim fake ass K era
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>>82540050
i, for one, welcome the new T H I C C age
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>>82539995
Yeah agreed. Something like 22 of his 24 songs off More Life were on the top 100 at one point? jesus christ
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Didn't she marry a dude for a month

Sex Tape, family linked to OJ, Paris Hilton's assistant or some shit, Fucked alot of Pro Athletes, and that ass
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>>82540109
>file name
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>>82540047
Right, but Kanye has stayed relevant. I'd like for him to focus back on rap desu. He was great at his peak.

I think Drake used to rap more too. More singing these days. But, he can rap. Back 2 Back is an all time diss track. The whole package with Charged Up. A great hip hop moment.
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reminder what kim k looked like before mountains of plastic surgery

also she's a midget
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>>82540109

She was married to Damon Thomas and Kris Humphries before her current marriage with Kanye.
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>>82535299
>the kardashians say a lot about the nature of human beings meme

When will this shit end? She's just a tv star
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can we acknowledge that the sex tape was shit and the only saving grace is that she does have an amazing body. aside from that though, shitty camera angles, terrible music playing over it, and she just lays there.
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>>82540437
her dirty talk was good

enough to get off to for me at least
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>>82539997
He's unjustable, he always bounces back.
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>>82540149
kek
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>>82540042
Bitch please, she married him because his dumb ass line could get her into shows she was shunned from. Wanted the Vogue cover and didnt after being with Kanye and producing her accessory.
>They are empire builders and you're shitposting on your laptop after mopping floors all day
Irony
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>>82540437
>>82540474
not to sound like a cuck but the only celebrity sex tape i ever saw that was actually good in terms of amateur porn was one half of those playboy twins getting fucked by some black actor.
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>>82540474
>oh baby
>oh baby
>oh baby
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>>82540532
>implying i even get a mop
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>>82540532
So you're saying they both had things to gain from the marriage? I don't understand the critique. You just seem bitter.
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>>82540571
the cum on my face part got me
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>>82534934
Kim K started the trend where its encouraged now for women to have gigantic asses
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>>82540646
More her than him
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>>82540770
Agreed
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>>82535011

Paris Hilton had a loser-friend she'd make fun of openly on the show, most notorious was telling her friend to shut the fuck up and not talk to her while in public.
That friend is Kim Kardashian.
At the peak of Paris Hilton's celebrity status a sex tape was released of Paris that was mostly meh except she knew how to suck a dick.
Kim K wanted to beat Paris at her own game so to one-up her she slept with a black dude AND made an even more mediocre sex tape (notice the horrible camera angles)
By doing this she stole all of Paris's thunder and went on to become the world's biggest "please go away" celebrity on this planet. Listen to the O&A interview they did with Paris when she was shilling her garbage clothesline, it's backs up above statements and it's pretty hilarious.

tl;dr:women do not value friendship
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>>82535511
>>82535647
lol, her wealth comes from her dad
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>>82534934
>Ray J
literally who?
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>>82534974
>diamond dozen
Is this a new forced meme? Fucking redditors
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>>82540904
She's made great gains on it, though. Her Dad at his highest was $30m. She's at $150m herself right now. Idk what her sisters or moms worth either.
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>>82540973
>not recognizing this ancient meme
sup reddit
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>>82534934
Fab said he looked like a faggot.
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>>82540934
brandy's brother
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>have money
>have looks
>have body
>have connections
>live in hollywood
>have people handle your money and investments
>be a woman

wow real genius
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>>82541125
>Brandy
Literally who?
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If her Dad doesnt suddenly die in 2003 then Kim Kardashian would be a nobody right now.Dad dies. Slut time.
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>>82541209
her mom is the biggest pimp and a horrible person for using and turning her daughters into sluts for nigger dick
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>>82541445

she even managed to destroy bruce jenner
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>>82535525


>my mother's mating name

Everytime
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>>82535153
Not to mention, her fucking game app that exploded as well.
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>>82541445
>>82541592

>turning her daughters AND husband into sluts for nigger dick

i'm actually impressed
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>>82541928
thats just nasty
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>>82541928
wtf people are actually willing to date Bruce when he looks like that?
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>>82542009

Just because he's a tranny doesn't mean he stopped being rich
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>>82542059
would you go gay for pay?
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>>82541172
moesha
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>>82542095
Depends on the acts involved and the amount of money.
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>>82541928
lol it never ends
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>>82542095

I'd take a 8" BBC up the ass RIGHT NOW if it meant getting my student loans paid off
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>>82542224
I could only go as far as a handy and there could be no eye contact

Penetration would haunt me forever
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niggers are a dime a dozen that's why.
every one treats you like a god because you have an 11 inch cock until someone with an 11 and a half inch comes along.
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>>82542259
Oh fuck off all humans are somewhat bisexual you would be fine.
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>>82542345
Nah just cause you've wanted to suck cock on the low for years doesn't mean we all do
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>>82542345
:)
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>>82542345
>all humans
Speak only for yourself. Thank you.
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>>82534934
>mfw we live in a world where cumdumpsters like her are worshipped
>mfw those who despise her are called lonely neckbeard loser virgins

played like a fucking fiddle.
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>>82541445
>her mom is the biggest pimp

goddamn, what other escort can command these prices?
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>>82542009
>wtf people are actually willing to date Bruce when he looks like that?
>bruce

m8...
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Her dad & mom had money.

The mother divorced the dad for a queer..

I have no further dealings.
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>>82542502
>still has a dick

yeah Bruce
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>>82542547
>Jenner has undergone cosmetic surgery, and completed sex reassignment surgery in January 2017.[102] She said she has never been sexually attracted to men, but has instead always been sexually attracted to women, and that, keeping in mind the difficulty people have understanding the difference between sexual orientation and gender identity, she will identify as asexual for now.[103][104]

penis is gone m8
not bruce
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>>82541445
Kris lives up to her name. Its a fucking, horrible dagger.
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>>82542620
>She said she has never been sexually attracted to men>>82541928

wut?
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>>82542667
>surprised women lie

m8...
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>>82535525
Lost my sides at zero taller ants. Please don't let this be copypasta.
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>>82542380
>>82542392
>>82542399
You can stay in denial all you want but we all know that if an attractive feminine guy started to suck your micro dicks you would cum bucketloads!
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>>82534974
kris jenner get off of /tv/ you jew.
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>>82535525
I think I have cancer now
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>>82543120
=)
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>>82535610
REMOVE CARDASSIAN.
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>>82543011
Old pasta is old lurk moar newfag.
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>>82542003
The Ride never ENDS IT ONLY, engorges!
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>>82535525
I remember when I first typed this up for you guys. I was the Anon of the year hat day.
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>>82543011
its pasta, you dip
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>>82540892
>tl;dr:women do not value friendship
this man tell the truth, listen to him.
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>>82543399
oh wow its you. what an honor
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>>82543561
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>>82542095
I'm willing to bet they don't fuck and are only "together" because it's part of the Kardashian image to take black dick and his family of harpies brainwashed him into thinking he has to appear BLACKED in public.
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>>82540973
>Is this a new forced meme? Fucking redditors

It's old as fuck. If you're not trolling leave and kill yourself
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>>82542620
he may have changed his name from bruce but that's still a dude. you can cut off his dick, you can even jam some of his mangled dick up in his body. you can slap some tits on that dude, but it's still a man baby. just a really mutilated one. this shit isn't complicated. i'm not sure when we went from politely calling trannies "her" just to be polite and not start a whole argument to actually believing that shit. come on now.
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>>82540892
Paris Hilton wasn't mean to Kim
all the captions from The Simple Life were fake

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/08/paris-hilton-kim-kardashian-simple-life_n_7021894.html
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still not sure
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>>82535011
Got to cut in line at a club when she showed up with Paris Hilton while Tara Reid, former Paris Hilton companion, looked in from the side. TMZ got it on video. The end.
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>>82543120
Hahah yeah bro! XD
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>>82539646
>Drake

im ded
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>>82539646
>Radiohead
Ultra successful, but probably not as influential on actual, charting artists as Kanye and not even at all as culturally relevant outside of music as Kanye. This is a reasonable choice though.
>Arcade Fire
Lel nobody gives a shit about indie. Also, completely irrelevant culturally outside of music.
>Drake
Culturally super relevant right now, but long term I can't see him being that important to music as a whole. At best you could claim that he is responsible for softening rap up a bit and making it cool to be a singin nigga.
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