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THOUGHTS ON THIS (13 Reasons Why)

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Thoughts on this?

Production: Awful

Acting: Not good

Story: Fucking SO BAD. Just an attempt to appeal to the sudden influx of suicidal bitches.

Entertaining? Fuck Yes! I couldn't turn that shit off. Had me hooked all day. Super guilty

Did I get moved? Last couple episodes made me shed a tear
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>>82519013
Couldn't stop watching it, but each episode pissed me off for many different reasons. It's a God awful show and makes no sense while being extremely offensive on multiple fronts.

The suicide scene was pretty good tho
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can we please stop making threads about shows nobody likes over and over?
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>>82519067
LOL look at THIS guy.
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>>82519059
Offensive is a gay way to look at it, my man. It was just shitty

...

But I do agree, the suicide scene was pretty fucking great desu. Really made me squirm
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>If you kill yourself, you win
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It was a fantastically haunting insight into our society and our bullying culture at high school you guys couldn't relate because you were all homeschooled
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>>82519328
>fantastically haunting insight into our society and our bullying culture at high school
reddit
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>>82519013
>Production
Weren't exactly terrible, some shots were good like the suicide scene.
>Acting
Some good acting, some absolutely horrid. I thought Clay's actor did a decent job.
>Story
Most of the tapes lacked proper justification for being there
>Entertainment value
Good enough for me to finish it in 3-4 days.
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>>82519605
poo poo pee pee reddit : D
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>>82519013
Never watched it but the suicide chick with the tapes seems like the edgiest cunt. Am I wrong?
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The only reason it held me so long is because it was an extremely relatable story.

I've had a girl tell me the exact same shit that Hannah told Clay in his tape. [spoiler/] She also said the same stuff as Hannah when she was talking about getting raped [/spoiler]

I think the reason it's so successful is that if your a guy, you know a Hannah, and if your a girl, you know a Clay. They are both very real characters.
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Couldn't make it through a single episode. The acting and dialogue was so fucking cringy, reeking of the hand of an adult who was trying super hard to relate to kids, and the general premise felt "edgy" in that emo "you'll all feel horrible for me and cry 'why did we do to make him kill himself' when you see me dead" attitude.
It really felt like I was watching someone play Life Is Strange, without any sense of humour. And it was so unrealistic too. People killed or attempted to kill themselves in my school, and school kids don't react the way these characters did in the aftermath.
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>>82519013
fat bitch
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>>82519618
Honestly though this show had dope music, decent cinematography and the acting was fine. They should have made it more clear that Hannah was mentally ill. As her declining mental health would have "explained" all her retarded outbursts and poor decision making. All in all though pretty entertaining and comfy show familia.
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>>82519998
You want to talk about it?
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>>82520092
you're mom?
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>>82520109
Let it all out.
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>>82520171
I let it all out in you're mom's ass last night, kid
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i liked the part where hannah was barefoot
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The scene i really liked was when Clay realized that goth girl was probably going to kill herself and he had a chamce to stop that from happening

Everything else was bad tbqh only watched it cause i haven't watched a teen drama in quite some time and the plot was somewhat interesting.
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>>82520211
And how did that make you feel?
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Were some "teens are kwl lol fml" bits overdone ? Yes , honestly who says fml out loud ? The acting was pretty decent, main girl is cute as fuck, I think what the writers tried to do was show us all the wonderful aspects of Hannah and then make it really sad that she died. And they do a really good job of portraying suicide as something very ugly that affects people you never thought it would. Some people say the show romanticises suicide. I think it does the exact opposite, if you take pleasure in the thought of your parents finding you in a bathtub filled with blood then you were mentally unwell before the show and it changes nothing. I watched the whole thing in less than a day and I stayed up all night to watch it. And how can you not ? It says that clay is one of the reasons she killed herself so obviously your gonna binge the ever living fuck out of it to find out. Overall very good.
>Hannah laughed at his 2cm so he is gonna show the school his 9mm
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>>82520231
Patrician spotted.
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>>82520318
I hope that Clay doesn't hook up with her in season 2n he is reserved for Hannah and Hannah only.
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>>82519013
>"Girls would never make a list like this!"
>they actually did a list like this in my school
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>>82519013
I'm seven minutes in to the first episode and the acting is fucking awful. That chink bitch needs a new career.
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I enjoyed it aside from how anti-climactic Clay's story was. They build him up as a fallen hero the entire time, constantly posing the question as to why he would be on the tapes. And then you get there and it's literally fucking nothing. He fucks nothing. He does nothing. He's actually just an average dude who she admits doesn't belong on the tapes. What a fucking letdown.
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I thought it was alright, but even when it was bad it was entertaining.
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>>82520665
It's not that simple anon, he was one the tapes because he broke her heart. When they were making out at the party and he left even though she wanted him to stay. The fact that he basically ignored her after that night, she was upset because she thought that he was the guy that was going to treat her right but in the end he acts as if he doesn't care about her.
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>>82520665
>guy who cares for her feelings genuinely
>audibly tells him to fuck off
>sees chad in bathtub
>takes off clothes
>he fucks her
>doesn't do shit
hannah was never ourguy, she didn't have a mental illness except maybe mental retardation
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>>82520739

She broke her own heart. She told a guy to leave 5 times before he finally did and then failed completely to communicate her feelings in however long she lived afterward. Why justify it for her when she couldn't justify it herself? She literally says he doesn't belong on the tapes.
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>>82520739
nope , he did shit all wrong, i get where your coming from but Hannah admits that the tape that's meant to be his is pretty much a tape for herself

when your on a girl and she tells you to leave and fuck off ; you don't keep going , you run home and pray to fucking god you don't see a court summons in the letter box in the morning

lets play a scenario
>clay fuck off get out etc
>"i love you hannah"
>"no you don't you just want sexy time"
what's the next step he rapes her? fucks he supposed to do
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>>82520739
Feels bad man.

Also like Clay himself said, if he wouldn't have left Hannah at the party she wouldn't have witnessed the rape, left the party with sheri, knock down the stop sign and thus kill Jeff. Clay was the catalyst to all those events.
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thought the stuff about his bro getting in the accident was quite well done and the character alex (the blonde depressed guy) was quite good too but all the other characters were the exact template YA characters that are in perks of being a wallflower, john green books, e.t.c.

also hannah is a fucking horrible person who killed herself to hurt other people, she told alex he is responsible for her death because he wrote she has the best ass on a piece of paper and she told tall asian guy he is responsible for her death because he stole some notes after she was horrible to him too.
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>>82520739
>You must read my mind
Haha nah mate. Clay did literally nothing wrong, same as Bryce.
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>>82520831
That was my point, her actions caused a situation where he broke her heart. It's not his "fault," but they way he handled the situation caused her to be hurt, even though she caused the situation.

Both Clay and Hannah know that Clay could have handled it better, but Hannah realizes that it's her fault that he left.
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>>82520906
i don't really agree with
>>82520831
but he should not have ran off from the house, should have waited ourside for her to calm down and then talk to her or something
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someone explained this show to me but it sounds dumb, I mean I can understand why it was made, to bring up the sensitive topics and all that shit, but it's hard to believe that everything that happened to her would actually happen to someone in real life.
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>>82520937
3/10 I replied
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>going to have to listen to alex's gay lisp narrate the next season, explaining why he killed himself

fuck me I hated his voice
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>>82519013
Can't wait for Tyler to purge all the normies in school shooting kino.
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>>82520949
lets make sure to make an important differentiation (dy/dx) on left the house the party and left the room, he should have left the room , she shouldn't have left the house
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What about it is entertaining? If the acting, producting and story is terrible youll only keep watching if you're a pleb.
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>>82521100
>>82520975
>adorable humor and playful teasing
>gave qt nicknames
>juicy lips
>beautiful eyes
>fat tits
>thicc thighs
>ultra qt australian accent that sometimes accidentally leaked through her characters american accent
not me another anon from yesturday but he put it beautifully
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>>82521148
I see. Commit suicide.
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WORDS
ON
FACE
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>>82521166
use the spoiler tag some people haven't seen the show
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>not dropping it after the episode about a guy who said the suicide gurl had a great ass
What the fuck
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>>82521234
she had a bad case of flat ass should have done some squats instead of make tapes
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>>82521148
I'm here.

>>82521166
No you kys yourself
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>>82521287
Only if you commit kys yourself first
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>>82519013
I can't sympathies with this bitch. Her taste in men is terrible.
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>>82521287
hahaha you said you three times
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>>82521234
You're not a girl you don't understand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>82521234
>>82521281
T. Plebs
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>>82521376
Now I get it, that was so horrible because everybody knew about her pancake ass and it put too much pressure on her right?
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>>82519067
But it's fun
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The Asian girl was so ugly she became hot.
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hannah makes tapes, what happens if we change the "T" to an "R"
>>>82519013
>hannah makes tapes
>comes from a family of australian apes
>but meanwhile bryce rapes;
>hannah as her asshole gapes
>clay does nothing but masturbates
>semen off a picture of hannah he scrapes
>her ass is not a very round shape
>but it is still a good landscape
>m'uh boy Tyler will be wearing a cape
>a 9mm he will take
>in some fun he will partake
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>Tfw no qt asian bf
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>>82521569
i hope this was originally done by you man
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>>82521569
POTTERY
O
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T
E
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>>82521903
yeah it was
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>>82519013
How come it wasn't about a 24 year old neet neckbeard fat shit ugly loser who's been rejected by everyone his entire life and considers suicide every day as he shitposts on an indo-chinese macrame puppetry board wondering how he missed out on his teenage years and now is missing his twenties?
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>>82522081
wanna talk about it
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>>82522112
I was really hoping for some kind of tv series but it's always about teenage girls for some reason.
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Is this the one of the kids that start dancing in a cafeteria to stop a school shooter? Why do you guys watch such terrible shows?
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>>82522189
Why do you rate something without watching it?

Are you retarded or something?
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>>82519013
Oh look, it's this thread again.
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>>82521376
>when your belly reaches farther out front than your tits

why did bryce even want to rape this ugly whore?
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>>82519013
shills get out reeeeeeee
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>>82519013
What else would you expect form Selena Gomez?
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>>82519013

Production: Kino tier. The past/present transitions are smooth as fuck and the vibrant/cold colors is a nice touch, it's honestly probably the best execution of this trope out of all tv-shows.

Acting: Very good across the board. Everybody did their job well and some did excellently. Most of them are literally whos and Hannah's actor hasn't done literally anything before the role of Hannah so props to her.

Story: Pretty good, for what it is. The main hook is very interesting even if the payoff always wasn't. Fairly realistically depicted teenager life.

Entertaining? Yeah definitely. The episodes welt like they were half as long as their actual run time, time flew by watching this show 2bh.


Did I get moved? Yeah. Clay's tape was pretty sad and her suicide too, definitely shed a few tears there.
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>>82521606
Reminder that Zach did nothing wrong.
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>>82523157
realistic ? no not at all. an interesting thing is, didn't see a single cigarette get smoked by a student

it is really really good still no matter how much i talk shit about it
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What game was he playing?
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>>82523157
>The past/present transitions are smooth as fuck and the vibrant/cold colors is a nice touch, it's honestly probably the best execution of this trope out of all tv-shows.

Honestly this. It's not kino, but it's done pretty well.
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>>82523790
to me looked like some mixture of CS 1.6 and cod
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>>82523790
>Wearing Jordan 1s

The wardrobe department needs to get fired
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>>82519013
Clay's actor was actually pretty good and the episode with his tape is quite good IMO
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>>82519013
Clay is a supreme gentleman.
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>>82524344
>i get bullied hurr durr
>wears those boots
swear they give off that "im 40 and i ride horses" vibe
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>>82524890
I think they're pretty cute.
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Why is it that Clay's usual intellect completely wanes and he becomes denser than a shonen anime protagonist whenever Hannah is pining for compliments or trying to talk to him about issues?
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>>82525344
He just probably thinks he isn't good enough for her or something along the lines of that, I relate to him.
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>>82519013
Reminder that he did absolutely nothing wrong and was the ultimate bro along with Jeff.
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Best show since death note
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Absolute fucking evil tier
>jessica
>tony
>asian lesbo

ok tier
>zach
>justin
>alex

bro tier, nothing wrong done
>jeff
>clay
>bryce
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Is this worth watching? I can't imagine anything successfully elevating the stories of a bunch of vapid, melodramatic teens.
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>>82520739
He didnt break her heart.
She knew he was a beta. Took him forever to courage up and finally kiss her. WTF did she think she was gonna do to a beta ego when she screams at him to stop and leave?
At that point it was up to her to run after HIM. He would have forgiven her she'd still be alive.
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>>82526353
>Tony
>Absolute fucking evil

What?

>>82526549
>Is this worth watching?
Yes.
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>>82526353
>bryce

0/10
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WHY DIDN'T THEY GET TOGETHER? REEEEEEEE

HE COULD HAVE SAVED HER

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWNLf_vgdwk&t=192s
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People in the wrong:
Bryce, Hannah, Sherrie or however you spell it

The rest of the cast did literally nothing wrong
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>>82525663
Wait wait wait she had a handsome friend and she killed herself?

WTF?
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>>82526712
>was I responsible for her death tony?
>yes, clay, rot in hell
he wasnt a good guy at all
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>>82520906
>based Alex

With one piece of paper Alex made her the most popular girl on campus. This is bad how? Sure she loses Jessica as a friend but you see how Jess really is so nothing of value was lost.
Also, Alex and Chaz were the only ones to admit they were mean and apologize.
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>>82521014
So much ^this
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>>82526718
not bait, tell me what he did wrong. In both instances there was a great deal of confusion-bryce thought jessica was waiting for him to fuck him and took justin's lack of interference as a signal.
As for hannah, why did she strip off in his jacuzzi and then say
>please, bryce
?
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would LOVE a season of this but through bryce's eyes. He's just going about his business, when girls throw themselves at him, only to later claim rape. It would be a greek tragedy
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>>82526841
>justin's lack of interference as a signal.

>when he walked into the room, said to bryce "get off her" and grabbed bryce but bryce overpowered him and threw him out of the room

Lmao?
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>>82519328
Not really. Seems contrived that all those events would happen to her. I like the series, but realism isn't a strong point of it.
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>>82526915
interesting interpretation of the scene, maybe justin was jealous. doesn't mean it's rape though
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>>82526712
Tony based evil manipulator
>They killed Hannah
>WE all killed Hannah
>YOU Clay, you killed her
>Nothing we could have done feels bad bro
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>>82526783
Well he was responsible. If he hadn't left after he kissed with Hannah then she wouldn't have witnessed the rape, leave with Sheri and thus killing Jeff, getting raped herself and ultimately killing herself. Clay was the ultimate bad guy in the show.
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>>82526981
Justin cucked her so it wasnt raep
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>>82519013
I thought it was pretty comfy actually. Seems to cop a lot of contrarian flak because it's popular. Reminded me of Life is Strange a lot which made positive associations I guess. I found it a little frustrating at times but I thought ultimately the score was great, plot was interesting and acting was decent. Pretty great for a teen drama which usually do not interest me in the slightest
suicide scene was hard to watch
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>>82519013
Hold on, just what exactly did she mean by this?
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>>82527170
Do yo think Clay masturbated to this?
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>>82527039

All consequential
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>>82527271
Yet nonetheless technically all his fault.
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>>82527216
I did
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>>82527216
Not sure but he did masturbate to this.
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>>82523790
Shouldn't they be able to license games for shows like this? Publishers should actually be willing to consider a sponsorship deal, and pay them to show their game. There's no reason they should have to waste manhours to code some really shitty facsimile of a dudebro game when there are plenty that would fit the bill on the market.
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>>82526618
Hell just tell him the next day he would have crawled back to her lol
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>>82527416
Delete this, Hannah is pure and not for lewds.
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>>82524344
>A faggor published my poem and everyone liked it
>must kill myself cuz of this
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>>82527676
Hannah is a slut
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>>82527676
fat bitch
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>>82528061
>those legs

Brehs...
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Reminder that Jeff is the best wingman anyone could have and that he didn't deserve the shit that happened to him.

I really hope they play the school shooting angle for season 2.
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>>82526751
because she wanted to string him along while fucking chads
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> clay did nothing wrong
see
>>82520831

to
>>82525663
Transcript

everything obviously happened in the past and the events are a mixture of the tape and Clay's flashback
(no shit)


I wanted you to do everything you were doing Hannah /tape head
So i dont know why my mind took me everywhere else Hannah /tape head
And i thought of every other guy Hannah /tape head
Sometimes its better to wait - flashback H
But they said you had the best ass -flashback H
and They all became you Hannah /tape head
i thought you were easy -flashback
just stop it Hannah /tape
im sorry im sorry Clay /tape
just stop ok Hannah /tape
just dont Hannah /tape
what Clay /tape
what happened Clay /tape
i thought it was ok Clay /tape
hannah im so sorry Clay /tape
just leave me alone Hannah /tape
just leave me alone clay Hannah /tape
you should go Hannah /tape
part of me was saying please dont leave Hannah /tape head
part of me was saying "i never want to see you again" Hannah /tape head
i dont want you here get out Hannah /tape
Hannah! Clay /tape
get the fuck out Hannah /tape
but you walked out the door Hannah /tape head
like i told you to Hannah /tape head
why did you have to leave Hannah /tape head
it was the worst thing ever Hannah /tape head
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>>82528917
Why most women be such cryptic assholes? Jesus christ.
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>>82520739
She told him to get the fuck out, he made the most logical decision with the info he had, being that she didn't want anything to do with him romantically.
You can never tell what's going on in someones head, and Hannah is stupid to assume Clay would be able to.
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Zach was innocent.
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>>82529088
i know, people are like "but she's mentally ill" i can totally see something like that happening IRL with someone who isnt gonna anon hero

I have this whole theory that she isn't even mentally ill, does it on impulse which plenty of normies have
>>82529178
far from it , he took away an important thing she had and hurt her
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Reminder: Bryce is brotier and did nothing wrong.
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>>82529342
You know he goes to prison in season 2 right , anyway with Hannah's situation it could be a manslaughter charge
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Cant wait for season 2 to see what hapopens to nigger guidance counselor.
>Be raped
>Give her the equivalent to Bobby Knight "just lay back and enjoy it" speech
He deffo fired and worse
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>>82529342
>cuck your best friend
>not wrong
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>>82529144
>Hannah is stupid to assume Clay would be able to

yeah but she did anyway, which is why she was hurt

welcome to the world of teenage women
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>>82519328
>It was a fantastically haunting insight into [...] our bullying culture
Only people who have never been bullied believe this.
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>>82526758
how did sherry do anything wrong?

she hit a stop sign and didn't report it. It wasn't her fault that Jeff and the Old man didn't know how to drive.
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Criminal cases
>Bryce (cuckoldry and raep)
>Tyler (illegal dissemination of a minor)
>Sheri (damage to public property, involuntary manslaughter)

Good civil case against
>Justin
>Courtney
>Guidance Counselor

College is only a year away so no probs
>Jessica
>Zach
>Ryan
>Marcus

No probs but ded anyway
>Alex
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>>82520739
>I DON'T WANT YOU HERE GET THE FUCK OUT!!!
>Why did you have to leave ;___;
Female holocaust when?
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>>82519013
Jeff is a faggot.
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>>82529205
She hurt him when he was trying to be nice to her after an uncomfortable experience, being mad about the letters was fucking petty.
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>>82530018
yeah but he objectified her or something , he said she had a nice ass but like she didn't like it or something ? i dont know alright
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>>82529862
Fuck off courtney
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>>82529840
Just imagine being Clay in this situation. You've lusted over an ultra qt Stacy for god knows how long, masterfully evaded all of her signals and advancements towards you until this point and after months and months of suffering and watching her go out with everybody but you, mostly because of your own fault, you've finally decided to go all in on that special night. You ask for her consent like a true gentleman would and when you get the green light you go all in, start kissing her neck, grab her tit and all that jazz and you think you will die as an happy man? Wrong. At this point you have a raging boner when her mental illness kicks in and she just fucking throws you off for seemingly no reason and tells you to fuck off.

Months of suffering down the drain, you start walking home barely holding your tears, confused as hell thinking "what the hell did I do wrong?". Then you see an car accident in the distance. You wonder who could it be? Well it's your friend Jeff, the one who was helped you with Hannah as best as he possibly could. You think could this night possibly get any worse? And then it starts raining. You go home, you're on the edge of a total breakdown but you keep it together. Why? Because you're a man, and that's what men have to do. Just bury it and go forward to a new day.

Would you want to be Clay in that situation? I know I wouldn't.
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>>82529840
She deserved everything she got.
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>>82530316
MASTERFUL ANON
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>>82530316
oh would i fuck, completely agree, forgetting about the Jeff bit, (Jesus Christ that was ad) that scene is shit out of nightmares
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>>82530316
Clay suffered so much more than Hannah did throughout the entirety of the series

female suicide is a meme
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>>82530469
>Tyler
>Jessica
>Justin
>Clay
>Alex
did people not see the conditions that Justin was living in? For half the show (exaggeration) he was basically homeless. The bitch had nice parents that cared. She had a house to live in. She had Clay. She was good at shit like school and poetry. But sometimes i try to remember that the show is made up, and if she didn't an hero we wouln't have had a breddy gud tv show
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>>82521606
literally did nothing wrong
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I completely agree, some of the acting was ok some of it was just terrible and some scenes just annoyed me. I can't justify recommending this show but I also couldn't stop watching it either.
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Absolutely stupid shit, and Hannah was to blame for a good deal of the shit that happened to her because "MUH EMOTIONS!"

It's kinda hard to feel sympathetic for someone who just fucks up over and over out of sheer lack of forethought, or even the slightest regard of consequences for actions.
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>>82519013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQHx_GPKccY
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they better not ruin tyler's shooting scene
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>>82530623
Ive been trying to pin-point for a while why i couldn't stop watching. I did literally finish the whole thing in as little time as possible. I think it's that the show makes the viewer think that Clay has some kind of really dark secret like he did something real bad. Tony basically screams in the viewers face "CLAY KILLED HANNAH" So you keep watching and watching, thinking "Is this clay's tape ?" but it never is. Of course we don't know that Clay's tape is second to last. As it turns out Clay didn't kill Hannah , Hannah's stupidity killed Hannah.
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>>82530569
>>Tyler
Fucking creeper. He has a good family. All problems are his own. Zero points for suffering
>>Jessica
Its hard to be a military brat nowadays. Loving father going off to war and u dont know if sand niggers hate dark niggers. But all her problems are her own. 5 points for suffering
>>Justin
Meth head mom. Choked out by mom's boyfriend. Some sympathy until you realize he is a textbook cuckold. 2 points for suffering
>>Clay
Good family. Good friends. Loses points for being ultra beta but arent we all. 8 points for suffering mainly due to losing 2 friends in one month
>>Alex
Good family. Good friends. Probably never did a mean thing in his life up until "The List". Admitted to it and how bad it made him feel. A one time dick move drove him to an hero. 8 points for suffering.

Tie: Clay Alex

Tie breaker: Jeff
Literally did nofuckingthing wrong. Killed by a fuckin dindu's actions 10 points
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>>82531061
Tyler definitely has it worse than Hannah. People try to talk to Hannah.
The way she laughs at him when he tells her he loves her. Jesus chirst. It's so fucking brutal
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>>82527436
Tamest fucking porn folder ever. Though there are feet.
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So could Sheri actually face the law for Jeffs death? Its not like she meant to kill him
Sure she should have called immediately about the stop sign but Jeff WAS driving drunk anyways
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>>82531061
>But all her problems are her own
Was it really her fault that she got raped?
Unless you're going to argue that she deserved it for being drunk.
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>>82529786
There's no evidence against Sheri though, just the tapes. Bryce and Tyler have a confession/Possible other cases and photographs respectively.

Wow, Tyler is really dumb. I'd bully him.
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>>82531187
He told Clay the he loved Hannah, not to Hannah herself.

She just asked Hannah out and she laughed at him which is understandable considering how he had just taken the pictures of her and Courtney the other night and got caught.
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>>82531281
Jeff wasnt drunk. They assumed he was because of all the beer but he was on a beer run. They also thought it was Jeff that knocked over the stop sign.

http://www.nytimes.com/1997/06/21/us/3-are-sentenced-to-15-years-in-fatal-stop-sign-prank.html
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>>82530316
>Finally work up the courage
>She's into it
>Finally made it bros
>"Fuck off"

Clay deserved better
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>>82531320
>no evidence
Sheri turned herself in. Thats bretty good evidence
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>>82531459
Should have just called the show 4Chan
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literally watching the last ep right now as she's with the black counselor, whos trying to be a nice guy

she sits there crying giving non answers and literally expects him to read her mind, then names him in a tape

is there no end to hannahs selfishness
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>>82531294
I gave her points cuz no one deserves rape. But she was a drunk slut before the rape. Then she finds out she was possibly raped and decides to hang out more with Bryce.
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>>82531459
he did, and then he stupidly turned down an ebony goddess to boot
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>>82531664
Yeah, that's fair.
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jeff was a fucking champ the entire time and then got killed

clay suffered for like 2 years and no one gave a shit

justin's life is a total shambles and he has no future

and yet hannah moves to a new school, has a few problems settling in and its fucking defcon 9
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Black counselor man did nothing wrong!
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>>82531398
>>82531281
I really fail to see the dilemma in that episode. Sure she hit a stop sign, but just because there is no stop sign doesn't mean that you shouldn't slow down or look before making a turn, also the old man said he was on the phone with his wife when he was being carted into the ambulance.

TL:DR bad driving is the bigger culprit here.
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Courtney and Sheri should both be hit in the face with a fucking brick
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>>82531677
Ew no, Clay did the right thing with not fucking her.
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>>82531624
>>82531664
you must be 18 to use this website
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>>82531757
Really, Sheri? She didn't do anything intentionally wrong, and felt clear guilt about it. She then helped care for the old guy in the accident, and then reported herself to the police to face the consequences.

And unless I'm forgetting, never treated anyone badly in school
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>>82531835
She tried to absolve herself of all blame for ages, brushing her terrible mistake off as just an unlucky thing that happened and kept trying to push the 'jeff was drunk' narrative which she knew wasn't true

then she tries to seduce poor fucking clay who she knew would fall for it, just so she could save her own ass

fuck her and her fake smiles
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>>82531798
Why are you here then?
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>>82531835
Her actions had the worst consequence, the death of based Jeff, who is the best person in the entire series.
Although I doubt the police would get out to the sign quickly enough to save him she shouldn't have tried to avoid responsibility.
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One thing I didn't get was, if Hannah wasn't lying on her tapes how did Zach had the note she wrote? Was Zach lying?
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>>82531949
don't even know how anyone can trust Hannah desu
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>>82531949
No, she just made a mistake.
Zach didn't deserve to be on the tapes either way.
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>>82531677
Nubian Queen
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>>82531990

Neither did Alex, Clay, Justin or Jessica
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>>82531949
No, the tapes tell Hannah's truth, not necessarily THE truth. She probably thought he threw the note away since he didn't react to it in anyway or didn't confront her after reading it. The flashbacks in the show are from Clay's POV and they're based on the information in the tapes and that's why we see Zach throwing the note at the school hallway.

But yeah, like said Zach didn't really deserve a tape. Hannah was a bit of a cunt to him, even if he did fuck up mentioning the list and all, but she shouldn't have shouted at him like that in the middle of the diner.

That said Ryan didn't really deserve a tape either, his wrongdoing was fairly inconsequential.
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>>82532050
It was genuinely shitty of Alex to put Hannah on the list, but not as horrible as she made it out to be.
Justin shouldn't have showed people the upskirt, but that was forgotten pretty soon.
You're right, Clay and Jessica are completely innocent.
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>>82531916
>>82531928
But just because there isn't a stop sign doesn't mean that you should just plow through the intersection without looking, also the old man said he was on the phone at the start of the episode.

I find it hard to hold her accountable for that accident when there are so many more factors at play.
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>>82531949
He could have thrown a random piece of crumpled paper and she thought it was her note. In which case neither were lying.
I don't think Hannah lied about anything. She definitely blew it all out of proportion cuz of her drama queen tendencies.
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>>82527510
You think they actually make a game and dont just buy some cheap video that plays on screen while the actor pretends to play?
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>>82532112
Ryan was a stuck up fag, but he published her poem cuz he thought it was beautiful, not to be mean.
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>>82521376
That's a nice TIGHT ass. You can just see with the eyes how tight it is. No loose skin or unwanted fat. Just pure ass. It's a nice size for grabbing and I would do that if she allowed me.
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>>82532128
I suppose you're right, Sheri is definitely one of the less egregious offenders.
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why don't people like tyler just be less entitled and fucking weird?
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>>82532248
devils advocate, maybe he could have typed it up or something? like he put it in with her handwriting, and plus was her poetry any good? My knowledge in poetry doesn't go further than
>>82521569
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>>82532332
>if she allowed me

JUST
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>>82528917
So in this show she say no to two guys at different times, one leaves the other stays and rapes, but the message of the show is the guy who leaves and doesn't rape is the worst?
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>>82532393
Thats basically it in a nutshell
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>>82532352
All photographers are pieces of shit.
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>>82532393
pretty much
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I'm on episode 2. I know this is a teen drama but for fucks sake everyone seems to be way too clever and it seems to class with how they handle situations. Like Hannah and Jessica were on the same wavelength just right off the bat fucking with that counselor and Hannah had the intuition to know that basketball player would follow her on the bus so she could trap him on there but she cant handle people saying she has a nice ass or has the intuition to know the guy with a ton of tats and the teeth of a pack-a-day smoker would probably do scummy shit?
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>>82532495
The writer is 41 years old, of course he's out of touch with teenagers.
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>>82532545
>hahahahahaha Justin is the cutest hahaha fuck my life hahaha
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>>82532632
Who is Justin? Is he the guy with the fucking wrap around barbed wire tat no one has gotten since the 90s?
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>>82519013
It served its purpose and a second season is not required,
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>>82532675
yep
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>>82532675
ahahahaha yep.

why do all of the characters have so many fucking tattoos? tony has a face tatt for christ sake
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>>82532722
Because all the actors are like 25. I wondered how they had them. Justin seems like he might be 18 and was able to go get some despite being poor as fuck. They don't look like stick and pokes but they are still trashy. Whatever. FML forever.
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>>82532332
This man knows what's up.
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>>82532699
I can't believe how many people were glad to hear a seasons 2 is coming, do people really not understand how bad an idea that is?
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>>82532916
man i might start making a compilation of the funniest shit in this tv show. "its tight in the store" and "This is Justin , Justin stole my bike , Justin wheres my bike?" Are my two favourite lines
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>>82532983
These^ and any of the "Shut up Courtney" "Fuck off Courtney" lines
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>>82532948
People want to see if Clay loses his virginity to Kevin Bacon's daughter
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>>82533229
>yes but Hannah.......
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>>82533273
Hannah is ded.
Take all the crap out of Skye's face and shes a cute
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>>82533334
Clay is reserved for Hannah and Hannah only.
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>>82532352
just b urself :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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>>82533461
So you are saying that Clay must die a virgin?

Thats cruel man. Clay did nothing wrong and deserves to know what the inside of a wet pussy feels like.
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>>82533334
damn, she is real cute

hopefully she will be more involved next series
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>>82532983
Don't forget "Well, if you work at your parents' pharmacy you won't smell like burnt popcorn anymore"
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>>82520739
That the most fucking retarded part of the whole show.
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>>82533702
He pretty much wasn't on the tapes. She acknowledges that it was her fault. In reality that tape isn't Clay's. It's Hannah's.
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>>82519013
>She constantly gazes at him for long periods of time, touches him and basically gives all the signs that she has a crush on him in interviews
>Dylan is already in a relationship with some giraffe when he could be banging ultra qt Katherine

JUST
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>>82533690
"They're real nice ankles Mrs. B"
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It pisses me off that she gave Justin a second tape. The first one makes sense, he shouldn't have shown that picture to his friends. But the second one...
>Why didn't he fight to stop Jessica's rape??? xdddd
Same reason Hannah didn't fight to stop her rape. Because Bryce is much bigger and stronger than them
>He knew what was going to happen if Bryce entered that room!!!! xdddd
And Hannah knew what was going to happen when her and Bryce were left alone in the tub. Justin and Hannah did try to stop him but they didn't insist because [see previous answer].
>Why didn't he tell anyone??? Why was he protecting Bryce??? xdddd
He said it himself: "I'm not protecting him, I'm protecting my girlfriend".
If you had been raped but had no memory of it, would you really want to know? The only thing Justin accomplished when he finally told her is leaving her with great psychological damage. Her life would've been much better and happier if she had never found out about it.
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>>82534474
He could have at least tried to stop it with other people at the party, just by saying "Hey my girlfriends getting raped upstairs come help me save her". Hannah was alone with an athletic football player.
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>>82532983
"You know she's DTF!"
"Whats DTF?"
"Spell it out dude."
"It spells out letters."

tfw you went to HS with someone this dumb
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>>82534474
Jessica knew that she was raped, she just wanted to hear Justin admit it aloud. And I think the reason Justin didn't try harder to stop it was because of his tough home, having history of abusive dad/step dads.
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>>82534751
Mkay. Now explain away Hannah wanting sex with said "rapist".
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>>82534751
oh yeah and that would have been great wouldn't it. "hey guys come here and look my girlfriend is being raped lol XD someone help or something jk hahaha"
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>>82534823
>Now explain away Hannah wanting sex with said "rapist".
But she didn't. I think that was pretty clear by how horrified she looked when she realized she was alone with him.
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>>82534474
As I kept watching the story I felt more for justin than I did for hannah. He had the hardest life out of all of them,
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>>82532983
>>82533690
>>82533938

>James madison probably wasn't a mad stoner.

>What are you guys doing?
>I'm recruiting Clay for the illuminati.
>Okay first of all, you should not joke about the illuminati.

>Don't do any hard drugs! ... Or any drugs!
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>>82534919
>>Don't do any hard drugs! ... Or any drugs!
this was the worst. his parents were complete morons. every bad thing he does they don't even have the assertiveness to fucking talk to clay they just let him leave and ground him for two weeks which is practically nothing.
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>>82535123
>throws up on his mom
jesus christ , the amount of times ive come home pissed out of my cunt , and not once did i throw up on anyone, but it's ok because we trust him haha
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>>82534864
>horrified
She chatted with him for a few minutes before she gave the "Muh parents" line and slowly tried to get out.
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>>82535123
Well he is 17, not 10.
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>>82535226
im fucking 24 and my parents wouldnt put up with that shit. if yours are lax then youre lucky as hell
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>>82535199
You may have autism if you watched that scene and thought she wanted/enjoyed it.
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>>82533925
he's like 5ft8 and not good looking doubt she's into him desu. bryce on the other hand...
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>>82535278
>strips off and gets in his jacuzzi at his house
>knows he raped another girl
>"please, bryce..."
she never said STOP
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>>82535278
>walks to rapists house
>strips down to undies
>gets in to rapists pool
>doesnt get out when rapist gets in
>bants with rapist b4 attempting to get out
>says Bryce Please!

She may not have enjoyed it. But she deffo wanted it
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>>82535260
Well my parents always allowed me to do basically whatever I want from like age 12 and up. I could watch any movie I wanted, play any game, watch whatever on the internet and so on. Hell my dad even bought all the MA rated games for me. And when I went outside of home basically the only rule I was ever given was to be back before it's night. If I did something really stupid it was always resolved with a short talk, no groundments or any punishment like that. Shit was chill.
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>>82521606
COPY THAT
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>>82535494
>>82535499
Bryce please. The scene doesn't leave any room for doubts, it was rape and that is that. If you can't read the gestures in the scene then you are socially challenged.

https://vid.me/iTUH
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>>82535494
the inflection in

>"Please Bryce"

made it pretty clear it was a plea to stop, not continue.
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DUDE KYS LMAO
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>>82530316
i thought this was going to be a variation of the "can you imagine being arnold in that situation" copy pasta. Your post was much less funny.
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>>82530316
not enough "imagine" in the text but overall bery good anon
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>>82530316
That's probably one of the most heartbreaking experiences a teenage guy can go through.
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>>82534751
Well she was already raped. Calling for help at that moment wouldn't unrape her and wouldn't help much.
She probably would've woken up and realized she had been raped. Which leads us back to:
>If you had been raped but had no memory of it, would you really want to know? The only thing Justin accomplished when he finally told her is leaving her with great psychological damage. Her life would've been much better and happier if she had never found out about it.
Plus she would come to this realization in front of other people with her panties still down which would make it much much more humilliating. And now she'd be "Jessica, that girl who got raped while unconscious at her own party"
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>>82535702
>yfw your parents walk in on you beating it to that scene
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>>82536105
that was funnier than i expected. bottom text should be "enjoy living with the guilt faggot" or something
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>>82535840
OC post > stale pasta
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>>82535175
>tfw one of the first times I was drunk I was having a dreamlike romantic moment with my crush and I was about to kiss her (I had never kissed anyone before) but I fucking vomited on her (Not in front of her, ON her).

9 years laters I'm still a KV.
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>>82536259
When i was young i was spilling spagheti so bad i legit stopped liking girls. Like no in asexual way but i had no crush i stopped trying.
You still got further than me
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Fuck Courtney.

She somehow managed to make me dislike her more than a bloody rapist.
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>>82536362
Alleged rapist*
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>>82519013
Seriously, what the FUCK was this guys problem?
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>>82536362
>Hannah goes looking for meaningless sex because much depression
>fucks chaddi daddy
>well now she is a slut
> cries rape which simultaneously makes her look like an angel and justifies the unjustifiable anon hero
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>Jeff will NEVER be your bro
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>>82536430
writing for him was so lazy

literally only exists to wind people up for no reason, character never goes deeper than that
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>>82536973
Ikr. Insert random over-teh-top jock here and hope no one questions who the fuck he is
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>>82536394
Fuck off, courtney.
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>>82536430
this is the guy that randomly got in a fight with alex right? he was just always looking for shit to start
surprised he didn't wrong hannah in some way and get a tape
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>>82537153
Same guy.

>surprised he didn't wrong hannah in some way
Well he was a dick to her at the winter formal dance.
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>>82537153
Season 2- The Lost Tapes
Montgomery
You showed no interest in me whatsoever.
Here is ur tape
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>>82520739
Jesus that's fucking weak
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>>82519013
>tfw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtlgYxa6BMU
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>>82537873
great song, but the only real standout on the soundtrack

Selena Gomez's Only You cover was decent
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>>82537979
There were a couple of good ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSycSBYHitc
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>>82536897
He was too good for this world.
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>>82520610
clay x tony is how it needs to end you fucking mong
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>>82532050
Justin was on the tapes for being a cuck as well
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>>82539205
This would be neat too. You could cut the sexual tension with a knife when they were together.
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>>82539639
>You could cut the sexual tension with a knife when they were together.

do you have male friends?
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>>82533925
She's probably a lesbian (interested in LGBT rights, has a video about her crush on another girl on her old YT channel), so I don't think so.
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>>82539736
yes, and there isn't much sexual tension. did you not even watch the rock climbing episode?
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>>82539736
Yes why?

>>82539891
And then again she probably isn't, you can't really tell.
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>>82539971>>82540011


i saw no sexual tension there whatsoever, at any point. what bit of the cave climbing episode are you talking about? they acted as they always did.

Not to mention even if Clay was gay/bi, Tony is dating a 6ft+ chad model
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>>82540168
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5Ooku73f7g
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>>82540197
i guess at the end it could be argued Tony lets slip he has a bit of an attraction to Clay

but chemistry has to be reciprocal, and I don't see anything on Clay's side
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So what will happen in 13 Reasons Why Season 2: The Boogaloo tapes?
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>>82540335
Well Clay's such an massive autist that he will back down from a kiss where literally the girl is the one who's going for it so yeah.
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>>82540669
Bryce's trial, Tyler's pumped up kicks and Baker case conclusion are probably the main themes. And of course the individual character arcs like Alex's suicide attempt, Justin's fate etc,
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>>82520318

"Now I understand, let's help the tattooed problem girl with piercings all over" was such fucking bullshit
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>>82540830
not really, he needed a friend and they were close before. and it seems she has level of feelings above friends for him too, at least potentially
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>>82540669

>they could've had a fucking mass killing spree in the school and be even more controversial but instead we got a faggy photo autist making a murder look like a suicide

guess we'll have to stick with canadians doing highschool shottings right.
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>>82519067

Hotheads, please leave.
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>justin manually inserts bryces dick into an unconscious Jessica, and bryce assumes it is some sort of sex game they play and is happy to help his bro and his bros girlfriend out
>hannah backs on to bryces dick in the swimming pool and then has sex with him
literally how can either of these be called rape??
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>>82519632

>didn't watch it
>comments anyway

Do you want to know what you did wrong?
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>>82520886
>knock down the stop sign and thus kill Jeff

Hannah didn't knock down the stop sign.
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>>82541078
They can't. Bryce was the ultimate bro, I mean:

>defends Tyler from a bully
>gives free weed to Clay
>buys beer for Clay
>buys candy for Hannah
>bought all the drinks for Jessica's party
>lets Justin to hangout in his mini house, probably smoking his weed, eating his snacks and playing his vidya
>offer Clay a glass of scotch and a rag after HE attacked HIM in his own home

I don't know how anybody can hate him, he's just too based to be hateable.
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>>82540936
>guess we'll have to stick with canadians doing highschool shottings right.
what do you mean?
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>>82541258
he's pretty good in his interactions with guys, even with the nerdiest kids

it's with women where the problems are
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>>82541258
not to mention how maturely and calmly he handled justin's bizzare allegations. a true bro.
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>>82541304
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhplhhnvPQs&t=3s
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So why couldn't he hand over the tapes
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>>82526905

I unironically want Bryce to get his meathead on and die a hero throwing himself in the face of Tyler's school shooting, because alphamale bropower bullshit.

It would give some gray to a what amounted to a psyco character thrown in to be the ultimate evil to justify Hannah's suicide to all of those who thought that the previous tapes where not enough, and it would throw one hell of a wrench in the shitstorm that's comings after the tapes get out (not necessarly public, but now adults have them). Also Jessica coming forward with the rape accusation.

The writers would be fucking morons not to take the opportunity
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>>82541636
To whom?
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>>82541872
but bryce wouldn't ever do that, friend
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>>82541874

The police,just take the decision out of everyones hands
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>>82520615
This desu
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>>82542034

He beats the shit out of people and then offers them scotch and a friendly chat about rape ethics.
He's a weird entitled dudebro with a warped sense of masculinity, I could totally see him granbing a chair and go at Tyler, not out of selfishness but because "Oh no you don't, bitch", only to be blown the fuck away by automatic fire.
That alone would put him in the "hero student" position and hilarity would ensue
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The show's a guilty pleasure for me, plus it gave me a waifu.
I mean Kat Langford is just gorgeous.
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>>82541258
you sound like the kind of guy who enjoys watching his gf being fucked by someone else...
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>>82535837
> Tried this
> Fucked up
> Have slight brain damage

Please don't.
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> wagekek
> new girl gets hired
> qt manic pixie girl that looks exactly like Hannah
> semi autist/fembot-like
> have the same taste in music, same sense of humor, that sort of shit
> "ironically" liked trap music, Lil B, etc
> confesses to me that she doesn't have any friends at school (was an 18-year-old HS junior; held back a year due to truancy after a breakdown)
> asks me out like some cliche anime waifu
> always had an excuse for why she couldn't hang out
> randomly quits work
> only hangs out with niggers now, ditched the hipster style
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>>82541431
That's pretty cool.
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>>82527436

so did i
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>>82531677
Literally Rihanna dude almost made it. His parents were only pretending to tell him to close the door this time. Finally our emo virgin son is going score top tier pussy we didn't fail as parents
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So when is pasty voyeur kid gonna shoot up the school?
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>>82535342
You know how bad that would look right?
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What's Justin going to do with his gun?
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