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Official Alien: Covenant review & spoilers thread

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A containment thread where you can discuss Alien: Covenant.
Did you like it? Post your review here.
Also share some spoilers, answer questions, etc..
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>>82494735
Did David create the aliens?
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It was shit.

I am basing this on the fact that out of everything do with this movie none of it has filled me with any amount of confidence in its viewing quality.
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How tf has the screener not leaked
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>>82494876
Did it even answer any of the questions of Prometheus?
Like who created mankind? Where ayylmaos came from?
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>>82494735

What happened to Elizabeth Shaw ?
That is what I want to know the most.
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>>82494735
The spaceship Covenant is transporting frozen embryos to a human colony on a faraway planet when they receive a distress signal from Elizabeth Shaw (Noomi Rapace), from the Prometheus expedition, which disappeared 10 years prior. The crew is brought out of hypersleep to answer to the signal, which leads to the death of the Covenant's captain, Branson (James Franco). His wife, terraforming researcher Daniels (Katherine Waterson), is deeply affected by the accident, while Branson's first officer Oram (Billy Crudup) is made captain. The Covenant is piloted by Daniels's friend Tennessee (Danny McBride) and the crew is aided by an android, Walter (Michael Fassbender).

The Covenant follows Shaw's signal to Paradise, an uncharted forest planet and homeworld of the Engineers, the ancient extraterrestrials that seeded life on Earth and then sought to the destroy it. The Engineers' secret weapon, the black ooze, has spread through Paradise, turning it into a wasteland. The Covenant's crew ventures into Paradise on a transport shuttle, and two of its members are exposed to spores released by plants infected by the ooze. One of them is quarantined aboard the transport shuttle, where a monstrous "Neomorph" bursts from his back and kills a crewmember. While trying to kill it, another crewmember accidentally shoots the shuttle's fuel tank, causing it to explode.

Another Neomorph bursts from the other infected crewmember's throat and chases the remaining crew into the forest, where they are ambushed by more Neomorphs and all but Daniels, Tennessee, Oram and Walter are slaughtered. They are rescued from the Neomorphs by David (Michael Fassbender), the sole survivor of the Prometheus crew. He reveals that Shaw sacrificed herself to crash the Juggernaut spaceship against Paradise's surface, exposing the Engineers to the black ooze to prevent them from destroying Earth, which also left him stranded on Paradise.
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>>82495327
David leads the survivors back to the Engineers' derelict citadel, where he's been living ever since. Walter spends time with David, who regards Walter as his brother, but comes to mistrust David upon realizing he is not behaving in accordance with their programming. Walter learns that David's mind has been warped by the numerous modifications that their creator, Peter Weyland (Guy Pearce), made to his programming during the Prometheus's expedition, and that David is obsessed with creating the "perfect organism". David exposed numerous lifeforms on Paradise, including Shaw, with the black ooze and, after several failed attempts, has created an alien egg, which produces a facehugger that latches itself to Oram.

Daniels and Tennessee realize David is controlling the Neomorphs and flee back to the Covenant with Oram and Walter in order to escape. Together, Daniels, Tennessee and Walter manage to detonate explosives to destroy David's laboratory, with the Neomorphs and David himself apparently perishing in the explosion.

The four return to the Covenant, where a xenomorph bursts out of Oram and begins slaughtering the remaining crew until Daniels and Tennessee manage to lure him into an airlock and eject him into the void of space, where it dies. The duo are the sole survivors of the massacre and place themselves back in hypersleep to continue their voyage to the colony, unaware that David has killed Walter and stolen his identity to leave Paradise, and that it was Walter who died in the explosion. David secretly plants alien egg embryos among the human frozen embryos that the Covenant is transporting to continue with his experiments.
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>>82495327
>aided by an android, Walter

They didn't stick with the naming convention for androids in this film?
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Just how common are xenomorphs, or have they just landed on the same planet yet again?
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I saw the movie on friday, and to be honest im putting AVP above this one strictly because of the rate in which the xenomorphs grow and the fact that the facehugger that gets onto the captain wasnt even on him for a full minute, let alone even made him unconscious it was like it was made by someone who never seen an alien film. the xenomorph, not the neomorph, isnt even a chestburster at first, just a small version of a fully grown xenomorph.
they also showed way too much of the xenomorph in the shots concerning indoors and on the ship, there was no sense of claustrophobia at all especially when we're watching walter (david) looking through the security cameras watching the CGI xenomorph as he's locking airlocks trying to seal it in as daniels and waterston try to find it and peers up and bites the CCTV camera for some cheap gimmick jump scare, it should have been shot completely differently with just hearing david over the intercoms guiding them through and telling where it is, wouldve been great especially since we could hear the damn thing moving in the air ducts as they're getting closer.

Im alright with david basically finding out how to make the xenomorphs from researching engineer records, this was a very pivotal point on whether to drop ridley scotts franchise or not considering all the rumors if david made the classic xenomorphs .
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>>82495973
i have to agree, the growth rate is legit AVP levels of stupid
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>>82495973

Well keep in mind the xenomorph in this movie is probably the first "true" xenomorph after the neomorphs, of course it's lacking the quirks of its sucessors. David has yet to truly perfect the line
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>>82495973
>I saw the movie on friday, and to be honest im putting AVP above this one strictly because of the rate in which the xenomorphs grow and the fact that the facehugger that gets onto the captain wasnt even on him for a full minute, let alone even made him unconscious it was like it was made by someone who never seen an alien film. the xenomorph, not the neomorph, isnt even a chestburster at first, just a small version of a fully grown xenomorph.
autism
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>>82495973
are you telling me that in the movie someone is literally walking around with a facehugger on their face?
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>>82495973
What happened to Shaw?
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>>82495973
Agree on the shots where the alien is on the covenant.
>that first person perspective from the xenomorph
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>>82496550
death by david
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How much wheat is actually in the theatrical release?
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Then why the fuck are there eggs on LV-426? Why is the Engineer there fossilized?
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>>82496656
R I O T
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>>82496656
>death by david

Did she become a queen?
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>>82496710
>>82496785
its not explained exactly what went down between him and shaw. the only thing that happens in the movie is david talking about how she crashed the juggernaut onto the ground.
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>>82495973
Dude, its WORSE than the AVP alien life cycle.
in AVP it takes 10+ minutes to full grown xeno
in this its literally 5
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>>82497066
Absolutely disgusting.
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>>82496683
sequel
>fossilized
it could just have calcified in the unforgiving void of space.
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>>82496999
That's fucking bullshit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5t1yI35r-U
Explain this
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>>82494735
fuck this poster, I keep thinking it's Godzilla
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>>82497511
LV-426 wasnt in space. Alien implies the Engineer got infected trying to do a bombing mission and crashes the craft and makes a warning
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It's not out for like 2 more weeks though.
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>>82497637
it was a planetoid with no atmosphere, just like the moon.
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Fuck >>82497677 (Me) and fuck London. I'm outta here before spoilers.
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>>82497577
The monsters that were spawning from the tail in shin godzilla were clearly inspired by the xenomorph
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>>82497700
>planetoid with no atmosphere
>The moon's atmosphere was described as "primordial", consisting mainly of nitrogen, water vapor, carbon dioxide, trace particles of oxygen and small concentrations of methane and ammonia. It is constantly racked by strong winds, although the moon is too small for potentially dangerous very large storms to form. Needless to say, LV-426 under native conditions was inhospitable to human life.
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>>82496683

because black goo
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>>82497784
my bad.
having shitty weather would do a number on the ship's interiors.
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>>82497932
But not fossilization.
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Anyone got a good torrent of the movie, if there is one?
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>>82498299

yeah it's on kazaa
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>>82498181
it would just be ossification or sedimentary deposit.
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>>82497549
>showing a trailer as if its proof.

havent learned anything from rogue one have you?
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Is this one supossed to be scary like the first one of its more action oriented
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Ridley Scott has said that this won't be the last film in the series, so it's intentional that a lot of questions are as of yet unanswered.
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>>82498860
I don't watch capetrash
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Maybe this xeno is a evolutionary step towards the perfect xeno David is trying to make.

Maybe hes going to figure out how to combine some android dna with the xeno eggs, hence the perfect mechanized Xeno we know ?
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>>82495363
David the absolute mad man
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Does the Xenomorph meet the Neomorph dammit?
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Wow. Ridley really is a hack. Xeno's being terraforming bio weapons made much more sense than David creating them. Hell even the comic's depiction of xeno's coming from a homeworld where they live in a balanced ecosystem is better than this
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>>82501392
no
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>>82495363
>into the void of space, where it dies
But it fucking survived being exposed to the void of space in Alien. What the fuck, Ridley?
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>>82501392
I want the Neomorph to have sex with a Xenomorph while flipping off David.
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>>82501701
Bullshit. They said it happens
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Any torrents of it?
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>>82501782

Does it matter if the alien survives in space if it can only float aimlessly? Its dead.

The Queen also drifts in space at the end of Aliens but for all intense and proposes its dead too.
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>>82495387
David is the fourth android and appears in the fourth film, "D" being the fourth letter in the alphabet... Walter is the fifth android in the fifth movie which is serving to bridge Prometheus and Alien, and for whatever reason, probably to show the duality between Walter and David, Walter begins with a "W" because it's the fourth letter in the alphabet going in reverse from "Z."
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It's not mentioned in the film, but in one of the art books, but at some point in the original script it was revealed David has infected an engineer ship with the Alien eggs laid by Shaw turned into a monster Queen and activated it with a "drone operator" that are huge and fly the engineer cargo ships. The fancier the engineer, the more human they are, with a lower class of them bigger and uglier. This ship crashes onto LV426 and the distress signal auto activates. When David escapes and gets back to weyland HQ he tells them what happened and the crew from the first movie are re-routed immediately.

So I imagine the next film follows concurrently with Alien from a different perspective.
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>>82501886
>probably to show the duality between Walter and David, Walter begins with a "W" because it's the fourth letter in the alphabet going in reverse from "Z."
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>>82501886
>and appears in the fourth film
Whether you like it or not, Prometheus was the fifth film.
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>>82502042
>Whether you like it or not, Prometheus was the fifth film.

Resurrection has to be acknowledged regardless because the android Call, is what makes the pattern keep flowing.

The only movies we can drop are the AVP turds, lads. Everything else stays.
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>>82497066
Glad I'm not watching this shit.
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>>82497739
What? No they wernt, They are a mix between Godzilla and Humans
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Anyone else think this series has gotten worse than Alien 4? They need to scrap all of it.
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>>82502349
It needs too die
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If I thought that Prometheus was perfect in every way and dislike the Aliens franchise, how much fun will this movie be?
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>>82502562
kys
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>>82495327
>>82495363
Seems interesting enough.
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Do we get to explore more about te engineers in this film? Imo they are the only good thing to come out of prometheus.
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>>82502349
Ridley is pretty autustic about the Aliens expanded universe in the comics/games making them into a alien species thats taken over countless worlds, partly because various species want to study em before eventually losing control AKA humans or Preds seeding em on planets to hunt and accidentally a queen on said planet.

Also have heard mention he gets incredibly autistic about the idea the the xenos taking some dna from their host when becoming an adult ala dog xeno, Predalien, and the Kenner Alien toys.

Funny thing is no matter how hard Ridley tries to make everything a clusterfuck of lore he still leaves open the incredibly easy backdoor that Xenos are biological weapons research of some sort and Davids attempts to make xenos are nothing more than on the scale of North Korea trying to make a nuke
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So if David creates the xenomorphs, how does that explain the fact that the ship in Alien was obviously thousands, possibly millions, of years old? Or the xenomorph-like figures on the walls of the temple in Prometheus?
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So does Scott with this movie justifies the fact that he decided to cancel Blomkamp's movie?
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>>82503843
He found a recipe and baked the cake, he didn't invent it.
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So why does David drop the black goo on the Engineers as seen in that footage they showed off? If Shaw dies during the crash of the juggernaut then she was alive when he bombs the hell out of the engineer city with the black goo, was she ok with this? I thought she wanted answers from them?
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>>82504032
Killing Blomkamp's movie was a mercy killing.
Everything he's done since District 9 has convinced me District 9 was a fluke.
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What is the point of David and Walter kissing?
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>>82504058
spoil

she didn't die from crash.
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>>82504140
Absolutely this.
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How have you faggots seen it?
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Is Shaw shown at all other than the prologue and the hologram?
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>>82504058
maybe you don't know it but some robots likes to lie.
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>>82504293
All we come from the future, dah.
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>>82502042
Prometheus was the seventh film, though.
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>>82504311

as a dissected body.
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>>82502298
But the first AVP is better than Alien 3, Resurrection and Prometheus.
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>>82504376
Nothing of AvP isn't canon.
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So the spoilers from a few months ago were all true?
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>>82501886
>probably to show the duality between Walter and David, Walter begins with a "W" because it's the fourth letter in the alphabet going in reverse from "Z.
SCOOTT RIDLEY YOU HACK
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>>82504385
Jesus that's rough
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>>82504410
Fuck no! is just shitty action with retarded dialogues and script, plus the reused of the ressurection Xenomorph and the fucking fatsos Predator make the movie disgusting.
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>>82494735
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>>82504385

Shieeeeeeeeet, my hunch was right about this frame
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>>82504456
It's true, all of it
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>>82495327
>>82495363
Oh God that twist...
Ridley Scott should stop making movies.
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>>82504634

so that is Shaw?

How is her body so well preserved?
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This is fucking retarded. The Alien novels are the perfect and logical sequels to the franchise.
>Ripley, Newt and Hicks go back to Earth
>Earth is a shithole so they get thrown into a madhouse
>WY finally hauls Engineer ship back to Earth, fucks up and Aliens start infesting Earth
>The world is overrun, some people survive in space or in specially sealed towers
>Engineer ship activates a beacon that leads a second ship with a live Engineer
>Ripley boards that ship and decides to travel to the Alien homeworld
>After countless dangers and battles she manages to obtain a McGuffin that will make the Aliens turn on each other
>Returns to Earth and laces a nest with it
>Alien plague consumes itself.
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>>82504248
woah so the previous post wasn't true? Or you're saying David lied to the other crew about how she dies? Is the truth about her death never really revealed? interesting.
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>>82505198
Thanks to god that this isn't a movie.

Sound like a teenage fantasy.
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>>82505198
God that's embarrassing. I'm glad this trash isn't canon
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>>82504226
lgbbqt fan service
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>>82505523
yeah so much worse than gay robots making out.. totally..
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>>82504902
>>82504634
That's an Engineer tho
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>>82505596 see? >>82505598
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The true canon is that Ripley, Newt, and Hicks move into a nice apartment and Bishop is there too.
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>>82504226
there's no way to know until we actually see the movie
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>>82505598
Your piece of shit fanfiction will never be adapted into anything
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The comics were a single engineer is sucker punching Xenos left and right is the only decent thing to come out of Prometheus.
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>>82504410
>But the first AVP is better than Alien 3, Resurrection and Prometheus.

As a mindless action movie, maybe. As a good film, Alien 3 is more competent than AVP, Resurrection or Prometheus.
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>>82506076
This.
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>>82506035
wrong person noob
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>>82506076
All of them are equally shlock filled trite that achieve very little.
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In the after credits scene Bishop shows up and handles David a folder that says Project Yautja X
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>>82495327

>Walter (Michael Fassbender)
>David (Michael Fassbender)

u wot m8?
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>>82506070

Let them fight.
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>>82505198
Also the second book is a rip off of Romero's Day if the Dead. A crazed general, a small pocket of humanity, and a government experiment to try and domesticate Xenomorphs.
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>>82506070
>>82507271
Has anyone read Life or Death? It's supposed to be a sequel of sorts to Fire and Stone, but I feel like that story should stand on its own.
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>>82507450

I heard is trilogy mega-crossover series.
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>>82507601
>trilogy
So there'll be one more after Life and Death? Sweet. I like that Darkhorse is doing their best to keep the Prometheus IP alive and put it to good use.
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>>82501881
Intense and proposes
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>>82507127
please be a joke
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>>82506796
Alien 3 dissapoints for the plot, not because it was a bad movie: Nobody wanted a nihilistic approach after that rollercoaster called Aliens. B

On the other hand. AVP, AR and Prometheus have strong issues on narrative, characther develpment and coherence.
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>>82504284
Where the fuck is this from?
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I enjoyed Alien: Resurrection. I liked the characters, and the atmosphere was very oppressive and cold. It obviously isn't as good as the first two, but I don't understand why people give it so much shit.
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>>82507861
Yeah but after Convenent i don't know it still happen or not.

The movie reveal that david create an alien but predator and engineer on comics show that they know alien and fight them very long time ago.
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Can we get a link to a torrent or a stream? I'd appreciate the gesture. Thanks again for sharing the story, seems like its worth watching, but to be honest I'm pretty let down that its not what I hoped it would be. The story seems like an overplayed trope at this point.
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>>82507601
>>82508572
Please learn English before posting again, dumbass.
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Just watched the directors cut of the original Alien 1979.

Jesus fuck I swear old movies suck. I mean the movie was passable only because of how good it was at the time, but viewed from a modern perspective it was basically shit. Characters are retarded. Tons of plot holes. Tons of running around for no fucking reason. Of course visuals are terrible, so the only thing left are shock scares and I guess the acting?

I need to stop watching old movies. Even the best of them disappoint.

Prometheus is far better. Much deeper and far more interesting. Alien is a cheap thriller at the end of the day.
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>>82508871
try harder buddy
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>>82508871
i rewatched Alien (theatrical) today in preparation for Covenant and while i disagree with you in that i think it is a great film, one thing that struck me is that there are plenty of flaws:
>Characters are retarded. Tons of plot holes. Tons of running around for no fucking reason.
if it was released today, there would be the same kind of inane internet nitpicking that made prometheus "divisive" and people would hate it
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Seriously how are people seeing it already.
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>>82508871
This is a patetic bait, nobody is this retarded.
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>>82509635
apparently there was a torrent of a cam somewhere but I haven't been able to find it using Vuze
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>>82495327
>>82495363

So does Blomkamp's movie come after,didn't the actor that played Newt say they were looking for a stand-in for her character since she'd be an adult now?
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>>82510775
its working title was alien 5 and was going to retcon 3 and 4, it was supposed to follow up on aliens
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>>82496999
>its not explained
Running theme for Ridley anymore
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>>82511054
maybe he's just tired of it all anon
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Crazy Robot is Xenomorph Creator.
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>>82511375
We've known this for a long while now m8
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>>82511375
Doesn't create, he just finds the recipe to make them and replicates it
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Holy shit i figured it all out bro check this out:

>The engineers wanted to create the perfect xeno wich they idolized
>They needed a species of wich gets infected and spawns said xeno
>They create the species from marble jesus's sacrifice

Omg, humanity was just like a planet of cattle to this dudes to spawn hordes of Xenos.

Thats their big bad secret that David uncovers and looses his circuits over.
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>>82495327
>>82495363
So this leak that you copy+pasted from the archive is legit or you're just shitposting like the cunt you obviously are?
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>>82511375
Wait the Engineer's were in the first Alien movie?
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DUDE WEYLAND YUTANI ARE EVIL LMAO
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>>82512278
I dunno, am I a pleb for liking Xenomorph more when they were just a space animal, instead of this genetically engineered bullshit?

>t. Nostromo
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>>82512331
Last time i check,yeah.
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>>82505471
>Alien Covenant isn't grade school level of writing

kek
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Why don't they just send a team of replicants to catch the xenomorph
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>>82512401
They were never some space animal, in the first movie they find thousands of eggs in some alien dude space pickup.
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>>82512498
This. Leave 4 or 5 meatbags in cryosleep and send a few robots down to grab an egg. Are WY retarded?
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>>82495973
In alien 3 the alien is not a chest burster but rather a smaller xeno that grows
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>>82497739
no modern monster movie beats Shin I gotta say, let the Japs do what they do best
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>>82497577
I thought it was just me. Wew.
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>>82513170
but it looks nothing like the Big G
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>>82508871
>Characters are retarded.
I know it's bait and all but I really liked Alien because the characters didn't feel particularly bad on this end. The airlock and Lambert are the only two moments that stand out as points where someone would argue it but the movie establishes that on its own. The airlock was an argument, and Lambert is established as someone who buckles under pressure.
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>>82494735
the lesson here is never follow James Cameron

once he touches something and decides he isn't coming back

let it die with dignity
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>>82513584
what about snake bro?
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>>82495327
>Daniels's friend Tennessee
This shit right here, jesus fuck.
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Wait how is David supposedly doing all this shit when he was just a head at the end of Prometheus?
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>>82515196
Shaw repair'd his head in the prologue dude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeMVrnYNwus
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>>82514924
I'm tired and probably also dumb to boot. Did you switch tracks to Prometheus?
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>>82515374

I figured that's what they'd do but it's still horseshit. This isn't like putting a toaster back together. He's super secret super advanced Yutani tech. Even with him guiding her I dont buy her ability to fix him at all. It's retarded.
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>>82515572
>Yutani tech
is from Weyland, faggot.
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>>82501881
>intense and proposes
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>>82506076

This. The reason Alien 3 sucks is because as soon as you discover that everyone from Aliens except Ripley has died off screen, it's basically the movie saying "fuck you if you loved Aliens." And lets be honest, most of us loved Aliens (tho I know where Aliens haters are coming from, Alien was way different).

So yeah, most of us got to hear Alien 3 yell "fuck you" at us. But if you can force yourself to ignore that, you'll find a good heart in Alien 3... and if you can't, well, I don't blame you. After all, Alien and Aliens are two of the best movies ever made in the history of cinema. Alien 3 is merely a great-tier monster flick compared to the two God-tiers before it. By contrast, every Alien movie after it is either complete schlock or confusing bullshit.
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wtf at shaw being dead, then whats the point of the whole prologue thing?
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>>82516930
Probably a quick TLDR if someone decides to watch the movie without seeing Prometeus first, like

>okay these dudes did things in prometeus
>that's why they are relevant to the "plot"
>this android is evil
>see? he killed all these engineers
>okay got it? now let's resume into the main "plot"

And then already into the movie

>remember the hot red head? she's ded btw, omg android so evil I told you!
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>>82504051
I hope this is the case. Personally think the origin of the Xeno being a mystery is better. Having humans be involved in it would just be disappointing.
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>>82517167
It's not that we all wanted to know what happened to Shaw and the engineers or something...
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>>82517167
what david says also contradict the prologue though, in the prologue it's presumed that david bombarded the surface with the black ooze bottles, but in the spoilers he said Shaw crashed the ship? wut? maybe he's just lying and shaw's somewhere hidden getting ready to be raped by aliens to make her the queen alien, anyway this is confusing as fuck.
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are evil gay robots the clichè Alien needed to become true auteur kino?
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this film is going to save the Alien franchise.
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>>82517552
It's 76 now
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>>82517465
>what david says also contradict the prologue thoug
>this is confusing as fuck.

Not really, you pretty much nailed with your guess.

Prologue:
>Basically a TLDR of what happened in Prometheus and why these two fucks are important
>Show us what happened to David and why he's got a body
>Shaw is naive for trusting David and goes to cryo sleep
>David goes full /pol/ and genocides the engineers with the black goo
>HUGE FLAG 1 about how David is evil
>Prologue Ends

Now in the actual movie
>David lies about the crash (evil flag 2)
>David lies about Shaw dying in the crash that never happened (evil flag 3)
>Other android suspects that David protocols aren't normal (evil flag 4)
>David got a bio lab with lots of weird shit (evil flag 5)
>The new crew finds a video of Shaw in pretty bad shape but can't actually tell it's her (evil flag 6)
>They eventually actually find her getting fucking raped by Xenos non-stop or something of the like somewhere in the lab

BIG REVEAL, SHOCKING FACES, THE MISTERY SOLVED! THE LYING ANDRIOD WAS EVIL WHO KNEW?!

Im actually kind of dissapointed because the movie seems really dull and Im kinda turned off, I wanted to go see it for the pretty visuals but maybe not even that is enough
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>>82517943
ok found this on the webs.

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=56490.msg2208963#msg2208963

i guess shaw is pretty dead then, seems like a pretty lame way to close off prometheus, even when it's a fucking terrible movie. Doing this just makes covenant feels cheap.
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>>82518154

>Alien 3 gets ripped on for years for killing Newt and Hicks offscreen
>Alien Covenant does the same damn thing but with Prometheus' Ripley

Fucking bravo Scott.
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>>82517943
>David goes full /pol/ and genocides the engineers with the black goo

kek
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>>82495234

They have the prologue(s) on youtube. David goes full Hitler on the Ayy's. I assume he kills Shaw too or she just dies of old age and gets mad.
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>>82495327

I've seen it, for reasons I can't disclose, and this isn't the film's finished plot but seems to come from an early draft. Mainly the opening paragraph is off (but the result isn't wrong - it's not a distress signal that brings them to the planet).
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>>82518154
>http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=56490.msg2208963#msg2208963

Shaw's fate is mentioned by David twice.

The first time is a lie, later he reveals the truth. He initially tells the Covenant crew that when they arrived on the Engineer's home world, the payload automatically deployed and during the chaos, the ship crashed, killing Shaw in the process. He later shows Walter her grave site and says he "loved" her. Way later on, Daniels stumbles upon David's work room in the Citadel.

Remember that dissected body photo that leaked and everyone thought it was an Engineer? Nope. It is Shaw. We get an up close look at her face and it's quite heartbreaking.

David sneaks up on Daniels and says something like (please note, this is not word for word dialogue), "What a curious little cat we are." Daniels replies, "She didn't die in the crash. You killed her." There's some other dialogue I can't fully recall, but David also says, "What I did to her, I'm going to do to you."
There's also a shot of Shaw's dissected abdomen suggesting that he experimented on her reproductive system.

And no, the prologue YouTube clip is not in the movie. So we never see Shaw alive, but everything from the bombing onward, plus more new stuff is in the movie.


So basically Shaw is >>82504634 and >>82497549 never happened and got removed from the movie.

What a load of bullshit, did they ran out of ideas? Her character had potential and the set up they did in the last movie meant nothing.
I bet Noomi got rused by this shit too
>Suits set you as the main character of a new trilogy with a solid fanbase and high expectations
>Joking, your character will die offscreen and you get to appear for 5 minutes in the next movie, here's your paycheck

Like what the actual fuck?
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>>82515572
He says in that video that they're intentionally designed to be easy to repair. My guess is because they might be damaged when out on a mission in deep space, so an untrained civvy would have to be able to make the repairs.
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>>82501552
>xeno's coming from a homeworld where they live in a balanced ecosystem
Like taking their kids to school and shit?
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Am I the only one who think this sounds fantastic? It bridges the gaps perfectly.

Someone describe beimorph scenes to me
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>>82518945
>Am I the only one who think this sounds fantastic? It bridges the gaps perfectly.

$0.05 has been deposited into your account.
Thank you for your cooperation!
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>>82518945

What's so fantastic about it?

All these Alien movies literally just cycle through a now list of stock "alien franchise" situations with minor variances.

An android with a hidden agenda is messing with alien shit and exposing humans to it.
A xeno bursts out of someone.
A crew of various stock characters gets killed off with some lone survivors managing to get out of there (but they are also carrying the alien with them somehow).
Humans foolishly explore an alien planet where they get exposed to alien spores/lifeforms/mutagens and proper quarantine procedures are not followed.
An evil corporation wants to get their hands on the xeno and is willing to sacrifice the crew.

Etc etc..

The only thing I like about the whole franchise is how 1+2 work as a tandem.
1 established the xeno and how dangerous it is and 2 expands on the setting and gives us more of everything.
After that it's all a broken record.
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>>82518689
prometheus was too clusterfuck of a movie they has no fucking idea how to give closure to the characters so they decide to bury the last remaining crew off screen in the next movie, everyone will forget about her in the long run, or even the movie itself.
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>>82519072
>The only thing I like about the whole franchise is how 1+2 work as a tandem.
>1 established the xeno and how dangerous it is and 2 expands on the setting and gives us more of everything.
>After that it's all a broken record.

My thoughts exactly.
While I don't hate 3 and 4, I find them absolutely unnecessary.
1 and 2 are perfect, and as you said it, they work as a tandem.

Everything else is fanfic-tier (I say this as someone who actually likes the AvP franchise - comics, etc).
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>>82494735
>Alien was a mistake
>It is nothing but trash
>Those who identify as 'director', they sicken me deeply
-H. R. Giger
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>>82519072

>After that it's all a broken record.

maybe, but at least I like the music.
>>
>Alien: Convenient Money
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>>82519507
It's true. Anon... His post... all of it. It's all true.
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The Alien universe was better when the engineers were elephants.
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>>82519333
source ?
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>>82519736
H. R. Giger
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I will never understand the retarded backlash against Prometheus

It's better than ever other Alien film other than the original

Aliens a shitty action movie and 3 is a copy of the first but worse
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>we need a stronk woman
>say no more
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What happened with the Covenant's bonus situation?
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>>82519564
i concur
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>>82520168
Kek. Seriously though why would you open the door in the first place? Keep the thing contained. This is why women shouldn't be in space.
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>>82520147
Don't worry anon, that only means you really don't belong here (and that's a good thing). Covenant seems to be heading in the direction of 3, a shitty remake of Prometheus.
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>>82520147
Gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8
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>>82520296
>containing
>Neomorphs
They are smarter than regular ayylmaos.
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>>82520168
theres a camrip already?
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>>82520147
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>>82520168
holy shit that cgi

ridley scott should be forbidden to make movies
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>>82520623
>Thinking logically under an insane amount of pressure
Damn, they should have put you on the crew instead.
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>>82520654
Going to the right would be instinct, not thinking
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>>82520502
How would you know though? Also surely opening the door goes against quarantine? And it's certainly better than going in, slipping on blood, firing your weapon and blowing up the ship you came down to an apparently hostile planet on?
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>>82520296

>containing xenomorphs
>acid blood
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>>82515572
Complaining about this (and really only this) makes you look like a whiny autistic mongoloid. Change your diaper and accept the head was repaired and trash something else about the movie.
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>>82520093
Kek
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>>82517943
>They eventually actually find her getting fucking raped by Xenos non-stop or something of the like somewhere in the lab
if true it sounds like a r34 artists wet dream
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>>82520797
The Neomorphs answer to David's call. The neolmao on that scene murders both chicks, opens the door and is capable of deduction. It dies a few minutes later when another chick shoots a gas canister and blows up the drop ship just like in the trailers. As the ship blows up another neolmao tears through the face of another dude before David first shows up.
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>>82520565
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=35a_1493640443
no
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>>82522180
>The neolmao on that scene murders both chicks, opens the door and is capable of deduction. It dies a few minutes later when another chick shoots a gas canister and blows up the drop ship just like in the trailers.
But that's clearly not what happens. Because it doesn't "kill both chicks" it only kills one, plus the host, a man, before she comes in and fucks up by shooting the ship.
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>>82494735
I haven't seen it nor will I, because after the retarded Prometheus Ridley Scott took a massive shit on the franchise and stained it forever. Also the trailers and all the clips look fucking horrible. I give it 0/10. I can't even watch the original Alien anymore because of Prometheus.
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>>82517943

The creatures of the prologue do not look technologically advanced, nor hostile.

How can they be Engineers?
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>>82522345

>the entire species has to behave exactly like the guys at the weapons facility 2000 years ago
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>>82522499
One thing is behaviour, another is "devolution". They look primitive. Don't you think it is strange?
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>>82518689
Are they actually implying that David thought her abdomen is of any use after she got that monster squid removed in prometheus?
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>>82516564
Aliens is an overrated piece of garbage and I am glad that Newt and Hicks died off-screen, and that to this day, that is the cannon sequel and will continue to be so for a long time, if not forever, now that Alien 5 got cancelled. Fuck you and fuck James Cameron and his action school grade plot/dialogue movies.
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>>82522202
Banging soundtrack.
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>>82504140
Couldn't agree more
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>>82504140
At least Ridley Scott still has some sense of vision, I actually liked Prometheus.
Blomkamp struck gold with District 9, but Chappie and Elysium convinced me that he's a hack, and his Alien film would likely be fanservice garbage.
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>>82508871
>visuals are terrible
i seriously hope nobody truly think this way
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>>82498427
>he doesn't use Napster to pirate movies

WEW LAD
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>>82520768
Are you sure about that? I think you assume that because you're watching it and not living it
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>>82522554
They have a whole fucking spaceport.
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>>82518689
There's no words can describe how disappointing this makes me feel, I actually wanted to see this in theaters since I never saw an Alien movie in theaters
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>>82522554

Maybe they are cousins to humans
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>>82494735
Why does the CGI in the trailers look so fucking bad. It looks worse than capeshit.
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>>82518689
this is very very disappointed...
was hopping to see Shaw again in a sequel like Prometheus: Paradise

this is so idiot !!!!!
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>>82494735
Wait--how could David make the aliens if one already had burst out of the engineers chest at the end of Prometheus? Is he just messing with the recipe?
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>>82518653
>literally gas the big guys, species war now
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>>82526387

That is what I think. That would make sense.
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>>82495234
>caring about Shaw
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>>82501881
>intense and proposes
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>>82515572
it makes sense though m8
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