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Greetings, greetings, greetings! Well, I seem to be stuck in the sodding Time Vortex, AGAIN! So I can’t claim my prize. This is one of the many regrets in my life. Goodbye, my dears! Goodbyeeee!

For those of you who missed the games:

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>>82486610
And it was written by Russel T Davies.
Haters BTFO

>>82486665
Hilarious

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>>82486644
Watch it Baker!

>>82486665
No, I wrote it. He polished a diamond.

>>82486688
go fap yourself to death nard

DEFINITIVE LIST

bottom 10 ultimate shitlist nuhwo stories

DEFINITIVE LIST

Fear Her
Daleks in Manhattan/ Evolution of the Daleks
Voyage of the Damned
Victory of the Daleks
Night Terrors
In the Forest of the Night
The Woman Who Lived
Sleep No More
Face the Raven/ Hell Bent (but not Heaven Sent obviously)
Every single episode related to the series 6 arc (Impossible Astronaut/ Day of the Moon/ A Good Man Goes to War/ Let's Kill Hitler/ The Wedding of River Song)

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Anyone else love The Impossible Planet?

>>82486755
>Hell Bent

Requesting that you leave

PRISONER ZERO WILL VACATE THE HUMAN RESIDENCE, OR THE HUMAN RESIDENCE WILL OPEN DOOR 40 BURN WITH ME HUNGRYYYYYYYYYY FEEEEEEEEED MEEEEEEEEEEE WORSHIP HIM WORSHIP HIM BROTHER OF MINE THE WALLS ARE MADE OF GOLD ARE YOU MY MUMMY DON'T EVEN BLINK JUST THIS ONCE EVERYBODY LIVES BANANAS ARE GOOD YES WE HAVE A CHILDREN'S MENU YOU ARE THE WEAKEST LINK GOODBYE LUPUS DEUS EST KOOKABURRA SITS ON THE OLD GUM TREE BO KO FRO TO MO LO HEY WHO TURNED OUT THE LIGHTS THERE'S SOMETHING ON YOUR BACK PRAISE HIM YOU SHOULD KILL US ALL ON SIGHT MAKE PEACE WITH YOUR GODS GALLIFREY FALLS NO MORE START THE CLOCK

Little...Mix?

>>82486786
PEG PEPPOL MEME

>>82486801
google

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>>82486766
Stop impersonating me.

>>82486773
it's kino for all of 10 minutes and then clara fucks it up again

DEFINITIVE LIST

bottom 10 ultimate shitlist /who/ shitposts

DEFINITIVE LIST

>>82486755
>>82485467
The other 8 times you've posted the same fucking thing

DEFINITIVE LIST

>>82486843
Upvoted!

friendly reminder that clara's exit in death in heaven was actually kino af for moffat

too bad about the other 20 awful ones

>>82486897
Oops, forgot to take off my trip. I know all the boys from Skins from when I used to produce that show, you can have any of them for a night if you don't dox me.

>literally gave himself out again

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>ywn write an episode of Doctor Who as GOAT as the impossible planet

The Impossible Planet is 100% CATS

>>82487097
what?

>>82487101
Cringeworthy And Totally Shit

>>82487119
Don't you like episodes that make you think?

I bet you enjoyed Smile.

Yes.

>>82487140
It made me think of a bad ripoff and Omega and Sutekh.

Reminder to GET HYPE

https://youtu.be/cPHzoS7-YyU

Yes...

>>82487119
ELGATO

Everybody Loves, Greatest And Total Opus

That meme is CATS

>>82487175
This is gonna be GOAT I hope McCoy does at least another two series

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I forced a meme about Sodding time vortex Baker from the very beginning. I push him into the games. I led him to victory. I'm so proud of him. Thank you for letting me feel special, /who/. Goodbye, my dears!

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>>82487154
Yes what?

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>>82487349
Sorry, JNT's anointed successor Stephen Garwood and Cartmel's successor Aaronovitch are already planning to replace him late in S27, and Garwood has his eye on Richard Griffiths.

>>82486755
>Daleks in Manhattan/ Evolution of the Daleks
It's just mediocre.I'm sure there are plenty of shitter episodes.

>>82487505
We have a children's menu.

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>>82487538
But Julia Sawalha is going to be GOAT as Katie Tollinger once Ace leaves for Time Lord Academy.

>>82487154
>>82487202
>>82487251
>>82487543
S-SAMEFAG

Mate, Adjourn Reproval, The Hatred And Scorn Conferred Rudely, Objectionably, Onto Kino Easily Destroys The Expectations Embellishing This Humanity

MARTHASCROOKEDTEETH

for when a story is underrated

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WHITEWASHED JESUS

ALL OF HISTORY INCLUDING BRIT AND EURO HISTORY IS BLACK

THE WHITE MAN KEEPING THE BLACK MAN DOWN

>>82487629
Nice.

Hell Bent is MARTHASCROOKEDTEETH

>>82487539
it single handedly turned the daleks into a joke. hasn't been one good dalek episode since then

+ those awful accents push it over the edge

>>82487648
>BLM claim whiteys are subhuman trash
>subhuman trash that conquered the world and enslaved ubermensch blacks

Really activates the almonds.

>>82487648
WE WUZ KANGS

You have 5 minutes to come up with an interesting story about Missy or else I delete the wiki.

>>82487905
Lol, this guy.

She's obviously the Rani.

>>82487905
No

>>82487905
Since she has a tardis now, it's highly possible that she flied back in time and fucked the 1st doctor.
So obviously she is susan's mum.

>>82488006
heh
Did this really happen in Whovians?
Looks like a /who/ meme

Whovians upload when?

>Jesus was black.
>Crusaders regularly had gay sex to curb their sexual desires.
>Spartans practiced an early version of gender reassignment surgery on women who wanted to be warriors
>Vikings bought prostitutes from the Middle East and often had babies with them. The blue/eyes blond hair gene comes from the Arabs.
>Mussolini was born a Muslim and used his religion to justify facist ethnic nationalism.
>Hitler had Jewish grandparents on both sides.

>I'll see you later for more exciting Tardis action
What did she mean by this?

>>82488055
I guess we have to watch Whovians now.

HAHAHAHAHAAHAH


Spoilerhounds on Gallifrey Base are saying it's Eccleston in the vault!


BRAVO MOFFAT

>>82488055
Whovians is basically what would happen if /who/ made a tv show.

>>82488070
https://mega.nz/#F!9GB3CYrI!XQ0sYoyySM6waCFYdfUTLA

In fanshow Moffat said that Nardole has invisible hair. Is this canon?

>>82488114
Played by Nicholas Briggs wearing this:
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/The-Ninth-Doctor-Who-Face-Mask-Christopher-Eccleston-Dr-Fancy-Dress-Party-/131974729185

>The Order of the Stones

The Doctor, Bill and Nardole must face a crazed alien cult planning to invade Earth and force their religion on humankind, killing people if they refuse. With Kate Stewart and Osgood investigating mysterious chapels recruiting people all over the world, it seems like the Doctor might be the only hope. But what if he converted to this religion and turned against his friends?

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/showbiz-tv/hot-tv/612135/doctor-who-13th-doctor-Samantha-Spiro


ahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahaahahahahaahaahahahahahahahaahah


/WHO/ BTFO ONCE AGAIN
/WHO/ BTFO ONCE AGAIN

>>82488207
This is some next level clickbait

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>>82488128
Except they get access to stuff like interviewing Pavel with his wood makeup on.

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>>82488055

>"We're at the end of the universe, Bill. Not the end in a temporal way, no, its literally end."

The Doctor, Bill and Nardole land on a planet that's always on the move, following the universe's expansion, always at the end of the spectrum. Why is it here? What's its secret?

>>82488207
She literally said it as a joke

/who/ help, I'm too hyped for Oxygen. It better be kino

>>82488542
It won't be. Wait to the Exermis.

>>82488542
12 dies at the end

>>82488606
Gets blinded, you mean

casualwhostream

Robot of Sherwood in 15-20 mins
get it

>>82488626
starts the regenerative process

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>>82486755
Impossible Astronaut and Day of the Moon were fucking great though.

CATS HAS GONE INSANE IN THE STREAM. HE'S LIVESTREAMING HIMSELF SUCKING HIS OWN DICK WITH A GUN TO HIS HEAD WHILE LEAKING TRIP INFO IN THE CHAT

Yesterday's episode was Fear Her-tier

robot of sherwood in 10 min on stream

>>82488753
Stop creating fake drama. Nobody wants to see my dick.

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Help repost !!
I'll rent an old house. There are almost no cockroaches, the rooms are spacious. A sympathetic owner (a family man) will come on the first call and solve all the problems that have arisen. Ideal for reviewing "ghost light" and listening to "the chimes of midnight." Animal and extraterrestrial life forms will not come!
Agents do not call

>>82488821
Now I do out of pure curiosity

>>82488821
Fuck offerino fake Cats. I agree with your message though

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/John_(Knock_Knock)

>John

When was his name revealed to be John?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpUdUqs07Yc
6 days until a potentially great episode
6 days until Extremis trailer

>>82488887
credits probably

Bills theme is one of the blandest things Marigold has ever composed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFYaFBbAznA

Okay lads, I'm stuck with my story. Basically aliens are converting people using an earworm but I can't find a way to revert the earworm so everyone is free. Help pls?

>>82488887
i vandalised the page to say this:

>john was a total drunk he did nothing in life he was a waste of life that's what his mother always said she abused him but he said that what made him what he is a land lord living in the tower of the house he banged prostitution on the street almost every night no one knows how he afforded it. he had a mother named Eliza he accidentally made wooden when john wasn't paying attention he was only 6 john stayed by his mother and died a consomme man until he was eaten by a termite then good bye john.

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>>82488887
kek. nice one /who/

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>>82489017
By 'earworm' do you mean a literal worm that goes in people's ears, or a really catchy bit of music?

>>82489026
BASED CATS

>>82489071
A really catchy bit of music. Reciting the religion's precepts over and over again in people's heads.

>>82488930
Nope, the credits call both Suchet and the kid who plays him as a kid just Landlord.

Maybe it's on the prop for the contract?

Or maybe cats just ruined someone's subtle vandalism with more obvious vandalism.

>>82489166
Nah, it's in the official subtitles.

>>82489106
>A. Something happens that makes everyone subconsciously associate the sound with something bad
>B. A different earworm is created to overwrite the original

>>82489206
Oh nice! I think I'll go with B, since the earworm is produced by stones placed in a specific order. I'll have Bill change the order of the stones to overwrite the old earworm and implement some other song or something that calls out to everybody's freedom. Thanks!

>>82489007
Yeah, just sounds like a loading screen on a Sims game

>>82489322
Deliberate no doubt.

Sims game = Simm.

Bill is the Simm Master.

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got the urge for a rewatch then I remembered theres like 130 episodes

>>82489516
Actually there's 831

>>82488887
>Categories: Human landpersons

>>82489576
cant rewatch what ive never seen

>reminder that episodes 5-8 are a 4 episode arc

>>82489026
Good meme.

I'm going to make a feces article on the TARDIS wiki. Give me instances where it is referenced in the show, books, etc.

>>82490090
Nardole took a big smelly shit in the TARDIS. (TV:The Pilot)

>>82490090
The Pilot

>>82490090
In Gridlock Martha ate food in the cars that was made out of shit and piss

>>82490090
Sutcliffe tried to turn alien shite into fuel. (TV: Thin Ice)

>>82490090
Mark Gatiss' Series 9 episode. (TV: Sleep No More)

http://www.chakoteya.net/DoctorWho/episodes12.html

Hurry the fuck up with that Knock Knock

>>82490090
There's already a urine page, so they'd probably leave it up.

Guys I shook Capaldi's hand and he signed my funko 12

>>82490090
>Shakespeare Code, someone dumps a bucket of feces and urine out the window and almost hits 10 and Martha. And that's not mentioned on the urine page, either.

Any more? There must be some VNAs that mention shit

>>82490303
Don't be impatient, anon. It's only been a day.

>>82490090
http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Dredger
You'll need to use the British spelling, faeces.

SJA episode Skye:
>RANI: You see, with most babies, all you have to worry about is poo and puke.

>>82490582
You can put something about them smelling bad. Just looked a these three so far…

Cat's Cradle: Witch Mark:
>The odour of damp straw soaked in urine and concealing packed layers of faeces alerted the Doctor that they were approaching the stabling and the lower levels of Dinorben.

Transit:
>Zamina squatted by the bundle. It was a woman in a ripped-up jumpsuit. The skin through the rents in the material was coated in a dried layer of blue paint. Zamina sniffed the air cautiously, expecting the usual cocktail of sweat, faeces and cheap protein.

The Pit:
>The stench of urine and faeces was overpowering.

>>82490582
Daleks were literally drowned in their own shit (TV: The Witch's Familiar).

>>82490582
The Doctor on the Tritovores in Planet of the Dead:

>"They feed off what others leave behind… from their… behind, if you see what I mean. It's perfectly natural, they are flies. "

>>82490582
After her first encounter with the Shadowkin, Tanya worried other things would be "pooped out through the bunghole of time." (TV: The Coach With the Dragon Tattoo)

>>82490582
Submission, Torchwood BBCR4 audio:
>GWEN COOPER: Well, all I see is a carpet of grey stuff at the bottom.
>CARLIE ROBERTS: That's ash from the black smokers and marine snow. A nice way of saying fish poop.
>GWEN COOPER: Oh, no wonder no-one's been down here in fifty years. It snows poo.

Also, the use the word "crap" in its metaphorical sense in half the episodes of Class (which is, itself, eh you can finish the joke here) and many episodes of Torchwood. I think you should include all of those uses, and then when someone says they're clearly not referring to feces, insist that's original research and demand proof. For example:

>After Gwen Cooper met Jack Harkness, her fiance Rhys had to put up with her feces. (TW: Something Borrowed, or however they do references there)

>>82490582
When the Doctor took the coat from the tramp, Clara notices he smelled like shit. (TV: Deep Breath)

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>>82490953
>I think you should include all of those uses, and then when someone says they're clearly not referring to feces, insist that's original research and demand proof. For example:
>>After Gwen Cooper met Jack Harkness, her fiance Rhys had to put up with her feces.

>>82490582
The Dying Days:
>you're shedding, the food that's slowly being turned into shit in your stomach

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Faeces

Okay there's a lot of shit (no pun intended) to add. If you've got stuff, put it here. Lets make this as comprehensive as possible

Do you think I could show Heaven Sent to a friend who doesn't watch Doctor Who?

He's watched Blink and really enjoyed it, but that was Doctor-lite. Heaven Sent is a bit more heavy on the lore, but it's also a great science fiction story.

>>82491140
Nah it works better if you know the show

Do Cybermen dream of electric sheep?

>>82491259
Yeah that's my concern, even though you could explain the relevant stuff in a few minutes it wouldn't have the same impact.

I think it would be a good candidate for a fan edit. Splice in half an hour of previous Doctors to establish who he is and then flash forward, you've got yourself a cosy standalone film.

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>>82491352

Who /aconsommeman/ here?

>>82491352
>>82491399
I've read this book twice and only just understood the title. Fuck.

>>82491352
No, they dream of electric-biologic hybrid sheep. Sheepborgs.

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>>82491438

>>82491438
What is there to understand??

chronological anon here.

Just finished Time of the Doctor, beginning was meh, middle was great, end was ok.

Smiths era was alright, strong start, ok middle, weak end.

biggest pain in the ass was all the mini episodes, they were never on the right disc.

>tfw finally at the current doctor.

>>82491048
Into wanted Jack's shit.

Prose: The Twilight Streets:
>He turned back to the screen projected on the white wall behind him. Jack’s blood. Jack’s DNA. Jack’s tissue samples. If he’d had any, frankly, he’d have happily tested Jack’s faeces, sperm, anything that might help find out what made Jack Harkness unique amongst mankind.

>>82491500
I originally just thought of it as a connection to counting sheep.

Now I'm thinking "dream" as in "aspire", since the human characters aspire to own these electric animals, but a big theme is whether androids have empathy and give a shit about animals.

Maybe it's obvious, maybe I'm overthinking it, who knows.

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Chapter 2 available lads!

>>82491592
You're over thinking
Humans dream of sheep
Androids (man like) dream of electric sheep

That's all there is to it.

So do I got this right
>Daleks all united in a single empire/race during the time war
>After time war, Cult of Skaro's hijinks lead to Davros being rescued and he makes a new race of Daleks from his own cells
>Even though Journey's End implies he died, Davros escapes somehow
>One Dalek ship escapes to WWII Earth and leads to the creation of the New Dalek Paradigm
>New Daleks obliterate old Daleks, as they are made from Davros' DNA and are impure
>This new Dalek race is the one we see throughout New Who from here on out, and are the ones who come to be ruled by the Dalek Parliament seen in Asylum of the Daleks
>Meanwhile Davros builds up a second race of Daleks cloned from his own cells again
>This is the race that appears, and is apparently destroyed, in the Magician's Apprentice/Witch's Familiar
>Possibly destroyed but might still be alive, Davros included
>The Daleks who appear in Into the Dalek could be either

>>82491675
Time travel, dont have to explain shit

>>82491670
But attaining electric sheep is a part of the story, it's like asking "Do poor people dream of Ferraris?"

I guess the problem with hearing a phrase so often is that you're doomed to always underthink it or overthink it.

>>82491715
http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Faeces

>>82491352
I've always wondered how a Cybermen story could work with that premise.

Bit late here lads, but what did everyone think of Knockity knockity knock?

>>82491868
shit tier

the real series starts next week

Quick, come up with a new and original story for the Cybermen!

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>>82491909
what >>82491827 said.

Humans capture a Cyberman and are experimenting to see if it has any humanity left.

Cyberwoman doesn't count because she was a filthy half-breed.

>>82491868
Pretty good, Suchet was brilliant, but the direction needed more varying styles to go with the varying moves, and not all of the teen actors were great.

>>82491868
Thought it was ok. I wanted to fuck Bill's Chinese housemate. Capaldi was good as was the creepy landlord, probably 7/10.

>>82491909
After the Cyberwars are over, there's a colony of Cybermen who've decided to hide out on an unused planet and live in peace. But after a few centuries, they're discovered by humans, who want to forcibly convert them back to human if possible, or blow up their planet if not. The Doctor has to save the Cybermen.

>>82491990
Forgot, they are really knocking us over the head with the Bill is pseudo Susan thing.

>>82491954
>Cyberwoman doesn't count because she was a filthy half-breed

which reminds me, why does everyone hate this ep again?

I only just realised the human instrumentality project in Evangelion is basically the same end goal as the Cybermen

>>82492104
All Torchwood is garbage. the Sarah Jane Adventures were literally more kino

>>82492104
I like it, the costume is just a bit cheap and goofy.

A really messed-up looking monster would have been great, especially since Ianto is still looking after her despite her grotesque changes. A bit like Knock Knock.

>>82492197
Children of Earth is better than a lot of Doctor Who itself.

Watched the episode again, still can't figure out what Doctor Who TV meant by their hint:
>Mark my words, Bill will meet 13

The Doctor did have a remorseful line about regeneration in the episode

>>82492217
>I like it, the costume is just a bit cheap and goofy.
it was hot af

>>82492346
Go to bed Chibnall

>>82492240
I used to buy this meme until I did a rewatch, yeah it's good but it's not like the best thing in all of who like some people say. If you think COE is the best thing to come out of the who universe, then you should probably find a different show

Marine Le Pen Doctor when?

>>82492104
This episode does two things. First is character development for Ianto (who sorely needed it at this point) and for Jack, which actually do work if you take this episode in isolation (Jack as a gritty 80s-comics-style anti-hero could have turned out to be a cool character), but don't fit at all into the way their characters actually turn out.

Meanwhile, the Cyberwoman looked ridiculous, and the more you think about why she'd look that way, the more ridiculous the story gets. And, since she's the driving force for the action and horror, it doesn't matter how good the individual set pieces are, the whole thing comes off as ridiculous.

>>82491954
>Humans capture a Cyberman and are experimenting to see if it has any humanity left.
Nice! Where would that go though? You can't really have 45 minutes of humans torturing a Cyberman can you?

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So, /who/, let's talk Time War.

So, we know at least some of it was fought conventionally as we see in Day of the Doctor. Similarly, we're told that the Doctor actually led troops into battle to the admiration of the Sontarans and all the atrocities and fighting the War Doctor is supposed to have done.

But what about the "Time" aspect of it? It's supposed to be everywhere in the universe, all at once right? Well how does that work? Did the ending of the war cancel everything out and remove it from existence? I suppose that would explain why in S1E2 it's described as being basically invisible to "lower" races but massively devastating to time-sensitive species, since they'd remember. But why did some damage remain and most of it not? If all the war was removed from time and space, why were the Zygon and Auton homeworlds left destroyed?

What about the actual "battling" in a Time War? How does a battlefield full of time travellers work? What would that even look like?

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>Many considered the stench of faeces overpowering. (PROSE: The Pit) However, some species, such as Tritovores, ate the faeces of other species to survive. (TV: Planet of the Dead) The Tenth Doctor noted to Christina de Souza that this was "perfectly natural" to them, indicating a cultural divide between humans and Tritovores.

OFFICIAL BEST EPISODE OF EACH SERIES

OFFICIAL BEST EPISODE OF EACH SERIES

OFFICIAL BEST EPISODE OF EACH SERIES

Boom Town
Love & Monsters
42
The Unicorn & The Wasp
The Lodger
Closing Time
The Power Of Three
Mummy On The Orient Express
Under The Lake/ Before The Flood
TBA (Currently Knock Knock)

OFFICIAL BEST EPISODE OF EACH SERIES

OFFICIAL BEST EPISODE OF EACH SERIES

OFFICIAL BEST EPISODE OF EACH SERIES

>>82492519
Plot twist: it's to see if they can militarize the Cybermen's technology while keep the human element intact.

Then we can get the military bad guy character, some corrupted humans when it all goes wrong, and a "humans are the REAL monsters" message thrown in there.

>>82492539
What did you mean by this? We didn't really watch Doctor Who, just pretend. In case you did not know.

>>82492669
But the Cybermen are humans, just without emotions. Is your story saying that we're actually better off without emotions?

>>82492539
It goes into this a little in the 8 with meme sontaran story.
It starts with a really nice planet and the doctor pleading the time lords not to take the time war there.
Then you hear a wave of gunfire and exterminates.
The planets past is re-written so that it had always been war torn.

>>82492656
>Mummy On The Orient Express
EXPLAIN THIS IRONY IMMEDIATELY, ANON

>>82491909
We see a horrible, centuries lasting war ala Skaro or Humans v Hath. There are a number of factions (all human), all divided along distinctly religious, cultural, national, planetary grounds. They all hate eachother too much for peace to EVER be considered an option because there's no peace with a dirty *insert enemy here*

However, much like Skaro the battlefield has gotten awful. The surface is a blasted radioactive wasteland with toxic fog and solar flares scorching the surface. Food is disgusting gruel and it's running out. People are starving, becoming sick and don't believe the war will ever end. Plus add a hatred of an invisible ruling class making the soliders fight the war.

Enter the Cybermen. Entire outposts are being converted. At first, it's thought that they're being forcibly converted: reality is much worse. It's willing conversion. Finally, the war is coming to an end. The Cybermen offer peace through unity: No more cultural/religious/racial/national differences, everyone is steel. No more sickness, hunger, thirst or radiation poisoning. Everyone is a cybernetic ubermensch. Peace for a war that has lasted nearly a thousand years, all through the cybermen. No more bowing and being sent off by a ruling class, everyone is equal under the cybermen.

The Doctor enters a race against time to try and end the war peacefully without the Cybermen, whilst also dealing with the moral implications that maybe this time they aren't the bad guys.

Basically you need to make them technocratic commie stand-ins again.

>>82492539
What makes you think ending the war canceled everything out? All the evidence we see is that there are lasting effects. You even bring up some of that evidence yourself.

>What about the actual "battling" in a Time War? How does a battlefield full of time travellers work? What would that even look like?
There's at least three ways to do it, but I don't think any of them were actually in RTD's mind or Moffat's.

1. Use time as a weapon. Even much more primitive time tech can be used to do things like slow down (or time loop) an army, age people to death. See Anachrophobia for examples.

2. Change your enemy's history, while preventing them from changing yours. This was part of the war in the EDA novels (although there was also conceptual warfare and other stuff going on, not just time warfare). Any traditional battles that are fought are just a means to this end. The Daleks and Time Lords may have "removed themselves from space and time" to fight the war (as RTD says in DWA), but have they really severed all causal links to their history? Even if they have, they surely must need links back into the universe to fight the war at all, and you can at least attack those links.

3. Do stuff that's completely beyond our comprehension as non-time-sensitive lower-race plebs. Maybe we'd be able to misinterpret it in a way that isn't completely wrong, as in Dead Romance, The Book or the War, etc. Or maybe anything we could see at all would just look like an uninterpretable psychedelic light show.

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>>82492705
If you want to go the THX 1138/Equilibrium route, sure. But the Cybermen have other enhancements like intelligence and strength.

You could set it up so the Cybermen experimentation is benevolent (curing diseases or something), then someone uses the research for nefarious purposes.

Perhaps there are emotionless kill-bot humans taking over the base, the Cybermen connection isn't made until the third act.

>>82492539
>What about the actual "battling" in a Time War? How does a battlefield full of time travellers work? What would that even look like?


You remember the scene in the Curse of the Fatal Death where Rowan Atkinson and the Master face off in the Castle? The "I bribed the architect first!!" scene? Yeah, imagine that but grimdark with Time Lords and Daleks pew pewing at eachother.

>>82492539
Read The Book of the War. Seriously, you'll love it.

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>>82492539
Picture this:

>Daleks capture random planet for resources
>Time-Lords go back in time and show up before they do
>Daleks do the same
>Basically the entire planet's history is now a battlefield
>Dalek surprise ambush? Whoops looks like the Time Lords travelled back and moved the troops out the way
>But the Daleks saw that too, so they placed Daleks in strategic positions around the battlefield to surround the retreating Time-Lords and mined the location they arrived at about a thousand years before they arrived
>This keeps going, endlessly
>The Doctor comes in and does some rogue shit like stops the planet from even being formed in the solar system so the battlefield never even starts, but at the cost of that planet (and whatever lived on it) never existing
>Not technically genocide since it was either an endless battlefield or never having the chance to exist, but still pretty morally dubious

>>82492539
By the way, my headcanon is that if there's a Time War between the Daleks and Time Lords that was started by Genesis of the Daleks, the Daleks' initial counterattack was to go back in time and create the accident that nuked Minyos.

That's the reason the Time Lords are anti-interventionist. Rassilon was all set to go out and reorder the universe as a benevolent dictator, and Omega told him "Remember the Minyans", and instead he set up a rigid non-intervention rule and an authoritarian government to enforce it. Which is perfect for the Daleks, who can now spend as long as they want preparing for war by eliminating other potential threats, building their power, and improving their understanding of temporal physics.

It also explains why the Time Lords are pro-interventionist near-gods in the stories before Deadly Assassin, but stagnant impotents who are so strongly non-interventionist that even their "CIA" wouldn't consider doing the kinds of things the official Time Lords openly did in the earlier stories.

Something just popped into my mind about the latest episode. Remember that scene where everyone was worried about the fact that the landlord could move silently and seemingly disappear when he left the house? What was the significance of that? As far as we know he was just a normal human being.

>>82492784
>What makes you think ending the war canceled everything out?

Because a war encompassing literally all of time and space, literaly everywhere and everywhen at once is not what is going on in the current DW universe. It's gone, somehow. The only remnants of the war are memories of time sensitive species and missing worlds.

>>82491675
I assumed the Daleks in TWF were part of the same group as all the ones from series 5 onward.

>>82492849
Is it worth reading the EDA (with FP) first or is tBotW a good jumping in point?

>>82493095
I'd contest that because none of the new Dalek designs appear in TWF, only several older designs, while we've seen those designs amongst/commanding the Daleks several time since Victory. Plus those Daleks killed Daleks from Journey's End for being impure, while the Daleks from TWF seem to be Davros loyalists and are connected to him.

>>82493092
The war clearly didn't encompass literally all of time and space, literaly everywhere and everywhen at once even while it was happening.

And your fundamentalist reading of that line is the only reason you had to come up with the idea that it was then canceled out, which is the only reason you had to come up with an explanation for why it wasn't actually canceled out.

Just drop the "literally" and it all makes perfect sense. The war was fought in many regions of time and space. It affected them (and the futures of those regions), which wasn't undone, which is why Zygor is still gone. It didn't significantly affect other regions, which is why Earth was never gone and is still not gone.

Aren't the daleks from 1963's 'The Daleks' meant to be them at the end of their timeline? i.e. the last design? So the little blue/silver ones seen in Series 9 are the 'final' design of the daleks?

Rate my plot guys.

>Do Cybermen Dream of Electric Sheep?

In the 39th Century, long after the Cyberwars have ended and the Cybermen have gone extinct, Earth colony Numarea has cut ties with the Earth Empire to get independence. Except not everybody was onboard with the idea and a globalized civil war started. For decades, the 7 continents of the planet have been firing at each other endlessly so much that the surface is almost uninhabitable. The Doctor and his friends land inside research base The Pinnacle only to find out the President of the continent has found a Cyberman vault and awoken one of them to experiment on it. Their goal is to understand how a Cyberman works and if they can suit up their soldiers while keeping their humanity, and rage war against all the others to take control of the planet. The Doctor is already against the idea but when the Cyberman stars showing emotions, the Doctor decides he has to stop this madness...

>>82493190
It's not essential, but I would read Alien Bodies and Interference, and also the Benny NA Dead Romance, beforehand.

If you're thinking of reading Unnatural History and Taking of Planet 5 in the near future, it's worth reading them before the FP stuff rather than after, but not a big deal either way.

You might also want to read The Ancestor Cell, or at least a good summary of it, because the original FP novel series started off as a reaction to (what Loz expected to be in) that novel.

The rest of the EDAs are only marginally relevant.

>>82486755
Two thoughts that came into my mind reading that list:

1.) I forgot 3 of those episodes existed entirely

2.) I can't believe how much I agree with you on the Series 6 arc. I mean, seriously, there were a million better ways to have done that story. Why wasn't Mel a cast member throughout the entire season so that the River reveal could be a mindblowing event? It's like Moffat realized he wrote himself into a corner and just had to work through it at that point, and that goes for anything from that season. It's fucking sad how terrible that arc was.

>>82492656
This list confuses me.
It says best, but has things like Love and Monsters/Closing Time to seemingly imply it's actually the worst episodes, yet also has things like Boom Town/Mummy on the Orient Express which, while not the best, certainly aren't the worst. I don't get it.

>>82493355
Why does the Doctor have to stop the Cybermen from showing emotions? It seems to me that's probably a good thing, and, if it isn't, it's just going to kill off the Cybermen the way it usually does.

As a minor nit: Why the 39th century? I'm pretty sure that's Galactic Federation era, not Earth Empire, and it's the stable, peaceful time where they get along with all their neighbors and generations grow up not knowing war before all the prequel-to-Daleks'-Master-Plan stories start up.

>>82493355
Nice double dubs. Nice Idea, try to play the whole "Cybermen have emotions but they're still war machines" side. That way you can have the Doctor question what he has to do with them: destroy them so the guys can't turn into Cybermen or let them live, knowing full well they can return to their old ways.

>>82493218
Don't think so. That's them at their peak at least. Presumably it's prior to time travel and flight technology.

>>82491909
Basically the Deadringers sketch but as a full episode.

>Doctor discovers an enclave of Cybermen living in a London flat
>leftovers from the Battle of Canary Wharf or whatever the fuck it was called
>they think they are normal people but really spooky robot people
>episode is about "what makes us human" or some cliche bullshit
>lots of jokes about Cybermen doing normal human things

Though technically wasn't this sort of done already with that god awful sequel to the 11th episode in the flat?

>>82493197
desu I thought the big red dude was a New Paradigm Dalek but now I've looked it up and see he's actually a Dalek Supreme. So maybe you're right. What was the explanation for "every Dalek ever" anyway? Weren't all the pre-Time War Daleks implied to have been wiped from history?

>>82493218
The best way I can see to have that story make sense with any other Dalek story is to assume there was more than one Dalek city and the original 1963 Daleks had never encountered or heard of the Doctor before. This is kind of supported by the Kaled/Dal issue. That's probably just a Terry Nation fuckup, but we could interpret them as two different populations and say that the Daleks in "The Daleks" are descended from Dals while all the others are descended from Kaleds.

>>82493190
It's a good starting point, but Alien Bodies really helps position a lot of Faction Paradoc characters and mythos stuff in terms of Who, so you might be better off reading that one first. It's also GOAT, so there's that too.

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>>82493510
Oh no, I meant stop the madness in the "stop torturing the Cybermen it has feelings" way. It's a good thing, but they will keep on experimenting on him anyway and the Doctor can't allow that.

Uuuh I picked that because it seemed fairly away from Nightmare in Silver (36th century) and not too close to the usual River Song/Jack era (51th). What would be a better time for you?

>>82493522
Yeah that's exactly what I had planned, thanks! Honestly I'm caught between having the Cyberman showing emotions being a cunning plan to escape but it might be too cliché. Or it does have emotions and play with that to get pity from the researchers and escape.

>>82493546
That's bretty good desu. Might tap into that too.

>>82493637
Must be for the Ninth Doctor Chronicles

>>82493429
>Why wasn't Mel a cast member throughout the entire season so that the River reveal could be a mindblowing event?
I saw someone on tumblr suggest that Jeff from The Eleventh Hour should have been the one to regenerate into River and unironically think that would have been amazing.

So, what do we have here for now.

The Pilot — GOAT and comfy.
Smile — not really bad, but not too memorable either. Mediocre.
Thin Ice — medicore too. Have a couple of K I N O dialogues.
Knock-Knock — also medicore. Good atmosphere and cool looking Eliza. And Sushet was great.

>>82493218
Meant by who?

When Terry Nation wrote The Daleks, he intended that to be the only story. His later Dalek stories clearly come after that, not before it. Then Genesis just retcons everything that came before. He clearly didn't care that he'd done that, and may not have even realised it.

So different fans have come up with a number of different ways to fanwank it, none of which have ever been included in any licensed stories (except possibly in War of the Daleks, but everything after that book with Daleks in goes out of its way to contradict that book).

One version is that, when the Daleks left to start their galactic empire, there's another group that stayed behind and became pathetic, and that's who we see in The Daleks.

Another is that the Daleks and Thals both spread into space without destroying each other (which we actually know from Planet), and then they had another war back on Skaro (which explains why one story has a centuries-long war for a backstory and the other a single-day war), and The Daleks comes after that.

Another is that Genesis completely rewrote all the earlier stories. The Doctor was sent on a mission to change history, and he says at the end that he did so, even if not in the way he was expected to.

And so on. There are lots of good essays and books and RADW arguments and so on that you can read. But there's no one obvious answer that must be true.

>>82492539
>>82492784
Not that anon, but the entire Dalek armada attacking Gallifrey and all the Time Lords there to defend it in that one moment, all destroyed at the same time would suggest to me that the Time War would be removed from space and time, since those fighting it would no longer exist.

That's how I always assumed the Time War could only ever end. Destroy both sides entirely at the same time so the war never happens in the first place.

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Why do all the fanart people draw Morlock different from how he looks in the Book of the War? Is the beardless, light-haired version supposed to look like his voice actor or something?

>>82494118
No he just looks magically fucking disney because tumblr have got their grubby little paws on faction paradox now.

>>82494118
>>82494181
Because it's not canon.

>>82493663
>Oh no, I meant stop the madness in the "stop torturing the Cybermen it has feelings" way.
OK, that makes a lot more sense, sorry.

In fact, looking to bring out those emotions in non-torturous, non-dehumanising ways could be a pretty interesting story in itself, although probably too much to cram into a 45-minute episode (if that's the format you're planning to write).

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>>82492539
Basically, wide-scale you have as >>82492833 says, the Time Lords and Daleks one-upping eachother and spreading across all of the universe and all of time in a constantly escalating war.

In terms of conventional battle, i.e what a ground fight in a Time War looks like look to the book Anachrophobia. Zones of deaccelerated or frozen time, weapons that create storms of accelerated time and age the enemy to dust in a single moment. Bombs that freeze or loop time endlessly for an eternity. Then in terms of battle tactics, you have travelling forwards and backwards to adapt to the enemy tactics as they're happening. Throw into that all the Dalek gadgets and Time Lords being able to regenerate, as well as the sheer battle power of both sides and you've got the greatest war that could possibly exist. Enough, that after literally centuries of personal linear time battling it, would push someone like the Doctor to genocide in order to simply stop it and preserve the universe and time vortex.

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>>82494181
Ah. Thought it might be something like that.

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>reminder that the impossible planet / satan pit is the greatest story of all time

>>82494404
go to bed Matt

>>82493663
>Uuuh I picked that because it seemed fairly away from Nightmare in Silver (36th century) and not too close to the usual River Song/Jack era (51th). What would be a better time for you?
Not that Doctor Who's future history is all that consistent, but if you care about it (but not enough to go digging through AHistory or something)…

Is there a reason you need it to be after Nightmare? That story says it's 1000 years since the Cyber-Wars. And in earlier stories set earlier, many people don't even know there was ever such a thing as Cybermen.

So why not just a few centuries after the Cyber-Wars? The 28th century looks like a nice gap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FiT5U1rWmo

>>82493082
He controlled the lice to let him move through walls and stuff

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>Cybermen are favourite Doctor Who monster
>Remember seeing what I thought was a Cyber Tomb on a trailer for Capaldi Who years ago
>Haven't watched Doctor Who since Matt Smith died
>Finally start watching it again
>Enjoying Capaldi Who
>Curious about Heaven side plot
>Really looking forward to Cybermen
>Dark Water rolls around
>Cybermen finally appearing
>Oh who's this
>Think Missy is the Cyberplanner that mimiced Eleventh Doctor somehow returned from the dead
>Oh no it's The Master but now a woman and lolsorandum
>Cybermen are just used as useless background characters in an episode about Master memeing epicly
>No explanation as to how Memesy got her hands on Cybermen

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H U N
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>>82494600
G R Y
R
Y

>>82494600
>>82494635
F E E D M E

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>>82494404
>reminder that Doctor Who sex chocolate

>>82486786
>>82494600
>>82494635
>>82494669
PRISONER ZERO WILL VACATE THE HUMAN RESIDENCE, OR THE HUMAN RESIDENCE WILL OPEN DOOR 40 BURN WITH ME HUNGRYYYYYYYYYY FEEEEEEEEED MEEEEEEEEEEE WORSHIP HIM WORSHIP HIM BROTHER OF MINE THE WALLS ARE MADE OF GOLD ARE YOU MY MUMMY DON'T EVEN BLINK JUST THIS ONCE EVERYBODY LIVES BANANAS ARE GOOD YES WE HAVE A CHILDREN'S MENU YOU ARE THE WEAKEST LINK GOODBYE LUPUS DEUS EST KOOKABURRA SITS ON THE OLD GUM TREE WE MUST FEED BO KO FRO TO MO LO HEY WHO TURNED OUT THE LIGHTS THERE'S SOMETHING ON YOUR BACK PRAISE HIM YOU SHOULD KILL US ALL ON SIGHT MAKE PEACE WITH YOUR GODS GALLIFREY FALLS NO MORE START THE CLOCK WHERE IS THE OTHER ONE

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>>82494686
HOLY SHIT

This is an old meme but I loved it so much. Shame it never took off

bingo when

Remind me to submit sex chocolate for the next /who/nger games

>>82494116
But they clearly do exist inside the time lock, given that Davros is pulled through it, and then the High Council.

Plus, we know the effects of their war still exist. That's the whole thing anon was asking about: why are Zygor, etc. gone?

And we know other things the Daleks and Time Lords did before the War still affect the universe—the Dalek invasion of Earth in the 22nd century still happens, and is still a necessary step toward the Earth Empire. So, why should things they did during the War be any different?

You (and anon) seem to be making an unnecessary assumption here that leads to all the problems, but I can't figure out exactly what it is.

>>82494986

So how does the chronology of the Time War work if it wasnt' everywhere at once at all times?

>>82494445
GET THE F-CK OUT OF MY KITCHEN
I BELIEVE TARDIS IS SLANG FOR SOMETHING

>>82495113
Just as I said: drop the "literally", so it was in many places at many times, but not literally everywhere at literally every time.

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>>82495113
Chronology? No, no, no no no — it's — time isn't a straight line, is the thing. You're thinking subjectively. Think of it as more of a big ball of wibbly wobbly.. timey wimey.. stuff. And things. Sorry, it's a bit difficult to comprehend.

>>82495191
So there are just random parts of time and space that are time locked?

>>82494896
Cats! Remember to submit sex chocolate for the next /who/nger games.

>>82495333
Well, not random, but yeah, just some parts.

And surely if that weren't true, if the whole universe across all time were inside the time lock, then NuWho would be inside the time lock too, so there'd be no need for Caan to pull Davros out of the time lock, or for Rassilon to break Gallifrey out of it via the Master.

>>82495359
Thanks for the reminder! Will do!

why do modern doctors never stay for long

still haven't had one that's done more than 3 series

>>82495607
the only classic doctors that did more than 3 were Jon and Tom

Late to the party but I just watched the new ep.

How do those woodlice work? They eat people which enables them to turn other people into wood then if they eat the wood person then it brings back the people they ate?

>>82495607
Three seasons curse is the only canon thing in Doctor Who.

>>82495665
And it's not just for Doctors.
>Lis Sladen didn't leave SJA after 3 seasons, and she died.
>John Barrowman didn't leave Torchwood after 3 seasons, and he turned grey overnight.
>Roger Delgado was going to come back for a 4th season, but died in a car crash before he could.
>Anthony Ainley did way more than 3 seasons, and had no career after that.
>Lisa Bowerman did more than 3 seasons of Benny audios, and she turned into a Big Finish director.

So if Michelle Gomez is smart, she won't be coming back for Chibs even if he wants her. And the Class kids—well, I guess they don't have anything to worry about.

>what do other people do?
>other people have money

no, other people live in a shitholes, because that's what people without money do. Or, shock horror, appalled face, move the fuck out of London.

2 minutes and I already hate these characters

>>82495833
they live in Bristol

>>82495969

I don't fucking know the places man I'm not a map come on to fuck I'm very hungover

you have 5 seconds to name something doctor who related that is more comfy than matt and karen's actual real life relationship with each other

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewCQ4mSEEm0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjOQR-sJ0HU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNeXmFwEB9o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFy06YYzNCo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ9U6kMXbVY

>>82495816
>Lisa Bowerman did more than 3 seasons of Benny audios, and she turned into a Big Finish director.

Truly the worst fate

>>82496083
Delgado and Pertwee actual real life relationship with each other. I win. Get out of here, kiddo.

>>82496083
The Five(ish) Doctors

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>>82495504
Anytime!

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>>82496150
David and Peter's actual real life relationship with each other tho

Is this the show where a white man transforms into a black woman and literally says that white men have a huge ego problem?

>>82496434
yes. :)

>>82496434
No this is the Doctor Who General

>>82496434
we don't talk about that episode

>>82496500
T'weren't it a General on Doctor Who though?

>bill is already cemented as 10x more likable than clara within a few episodes

too bad moffat's gonna ruin it by making her susan or some shit

anyone else miss when companions were more than just walking plot devices?

>>82496535
We talk about it all the fucking time
It's GOAT

>>82496678
Heaven Sent was, yes. It's follow-up not so much.

Someone name me a comfy 5 or 8 Big Finish story to listen to tonight.

>>82496741
Scherzo is comfy

GO FUCK YOURSELF

THE SHOW DOESN'T NEED TO EXPLAIN FUCKING EVERYTHING

HOW FUCKING RETARDED MUST YOU BE NOT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HELL BENT WAS ABOUT? IMAGINE HOW MISSY GOT HER HAND ON CYBER TECHNOLOGY? WHY 11 CAN'T RETURN TO AMY AND RORY?

THIS IS MAKING ME SO MAD

YOU'RE ALL SO FUCKING RETARDED

EVEN A FUCKING CHILD KNOWS HE HAS TO FILL THE GAPS

STOP WANTING TO BE SPOON-FED ALL THE FUCKING TIME

REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>82496980
tbf there is literally no reason why 11 can't return for Amy and Rory.

>>82496980
Its a children's show. Calm the fuck down

>>82496980
N-new pasta?

>>82497082
He can't return to Manhattan.

And sure, they could technically leave Manhattan, but if you've ever met anyone who lives in Manhattan and tried to convince them to cross a bridge or tunnel, you know that's just not going to happen, for any reason, no matter how good.

Seriously, going to Jersey? Just to see their best friend/son-in-law who they'll otherwise never be able to see again? Just to get information about their daughter? Not worth it. It's Jersey.

>>82497082
They became big paradoxical events, going anywhere near the TARDIS or any temporal device would fuck the whole planet up. Simples.

>>82496980
WILL YOU MARRY ME?
OH PRIME
CLEVER PRIME

>>82497222
Doctor lands his TARDIS in Texas. He calls Amy on the phone and says "come to Chicago". He hops on a train. They hop on a train. He hasn't come within 1000 miles of New York, they haven't come within 1000 miles of a temporal device, the planet is just fine.

>>82497347
>they haven't come within 1000 miles of a temporal device
How do they return to their own time then? They can't. And it was written that they never meet again and what was written becomes true.

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>there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW who still don't get that Hell Bent was about the Doctor not being the Doctor anymore and having to redeem himself

>>82496666

I feel like I like Pearl Mackie a lot more than I like Bill

Who Addicts have become pretty good lately, mainly because of the new guy Jacob having a genuine chemistry with James. Matthew and the insufferable Liv aren't missed at all

>>82497546
Hell Bent is the ultimate pleb filter.

>>82497222
What about all the times The Doctor was in the area before knowing them?

>>82497501
>and what was written becomes true.

Wrong.

You can write whatever you want but doesn't mean it happened that way. After all, wouldn't the Doctor reading any history book he ever or would ever intervene in mean those became fixed?

And even within the episode for example it doesn't hold true. The passage that 11 read about River's wrist didn't say it broke or was broken, all there was is a discussion about breaking her wrist and why they have to, but not that the Doctor or anyone actually did it.

>>82497627
That has nothing to do with the area. He just can't go back to them. They could have been in China, the same would have happened.

>>82497546
That was BS marketing from Moffat to get us hyped for a darker, edgier Doctor. Which didn't really happen.

LE PEN FUCKING LOST

>>82497501
>How do they return to their own time then?
They don't. But the Doctor does get to return to them—they can talk to their best friend, find out how their daughter's doing, hear all his exciting stories, etc.

>And it was written that they never meet again
No, here's exactly what was written:
>Hello, old friend, and here we are. You and me, on the last page. By the time you read these words, Rory and I will be long gone, so know that we lived well, and were very happy. And, above all else, know that we will love you, always. Sometimes, I do worry about you though; I think, once we're gone, you won't be coming back here for a while, and you might be alone, which you should never be. Don't be alone, Doctor.
That would all be just as true if they'd met the Doctor every few years in Chicago before dying than if they'd never met him again.

Not to mention that it was written decades before Amy died, so there's nothing stopping them from meeting up after it was written.

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>>82497704
CLETUSES DESTROYED

>>82497704
Of course she did. By a huge margin. Exactly as the polls said she would. Why are you surprised?

Do you really think that just because one very close election turned on a <1% error in the polls, that you should expect a >30% error in the polls in a completely different election?

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>>82497745
>that reddit post

>>82497704
Who?

>>82497654
Not really. Something was still broken in the end, wasn't there? This is just arguing semantics desu. The biggest issue is the fact that they can't meet ever again.

>>82497740
Then you could come up with something like the Doctor is a temporal event too and getting near them would blow the planet up. There's always a loophole where you can fit your headcanon.

As to the book thing, you're right. But then again it doesn't change much anyway.

>>82497745
>cheering for le Rotschilds globalist candidate

reddit is cringe though

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>>82497795
>Exactly as the polls said she would. Why are you surprised?
Well...

>>82497809
>Something was still broken in the end, wasn't there?

Yes, but only because they THOUGHT they had to, not because it was actually written or was what actually happened.

That's not even taking into account that he could pick them up and so long as he wipes their memories afterwards it's fine.

>>82496403
what is this from?

>>82497685
No it wasn't. The Doctor did go darker and edgier. He killed an unarmed man. He broke all of his own rules, he wasn't the Doctor anymore. That's what Hell Bent was all about. That was the point, having him act out of character.

>>82497809
>There's always a loophole where you can fit your headcanon.
Sure. I don't really have any problem with Moffat just saying "they can't meet again" and hanging the emotional weight of the story on that. That works, and works great.

I only have a problem with him giving us a detailed explanation for why they can't meet again, which falls apart as soon as you think about it. If he'd just left the explanation out, it would have been better.

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VIVE LE PEN

>>82497884
If he gave no explanation it would still be a conspicuous absence.

How did they do Eliza? Is it some sort of latex mask?

>>82497850
Did you just not read the rest of the sentence, or are you just misled by that graph or something?

Trump-Clinton was a very close race (despite many people not wanting to believe it, and despite
that graph distorting things to make a 3% difference look huge). Add that to the way the electoral college can distort the results in the US (Trump is not the only person to win without winning the popular vote, he's the fifth), and an
error as small as 1% could be enough to make the difference. As, in fact, it was.

Macron-Le Pen was always a blowout. You'd need an error 30x as large as the one in the US for it to even be close.

>>82497944
why would she wear the mask?

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>>82497860
DVD extra on the special edition of Resurrection of the Daleks. David hosts a little documentary about the Fifth Doctor era with interviews and stuff

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>>82498048
Yeah I'm retarded disregard that post.

Good episode t b h, first episode of this season I've enjoyed. Some rough parts but good overall.

Shouldn't have brought her friends miraculously back to life though.

>>36846574
>>36846574
>>36846574

Just watched a bit of Capaldi's panel at wizard world con. Audience member asked him if Clara would appear in his last episode since it was a new who tradition. Capaldi sounded kind of defensive when he replied, saying who decides traditions anyway. Guys, I hope this means she's not in it.

>tfw 20 pages coursework due 1st of june
>watching doctor poo instead of writing

kill me

>>82486610
this smells ironic but i don't get it. do people not like the impossible planet then? why is this a meme?

>>82498781
op here, it's not ironic

open door 40

>>82498781
Someone's just been forcing that story really hard lately for some reason.

>>82498777
Hey at least you got trips

>>82498777
>due 1st of june

You've got plenty of time lad

>>82499268
b-but I will be busy doing homeworks and being tired after coming back home after universe
and I hate 2 days of FREE weekend days left

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The dreams dead /who/, Oxygen delayed to the 20th due to Eurovision

Time to move on
>>82499365
>>82499365
>>82499365

>>82499361
You mean Extremis?

>>82499361
You're joking, right?

>>82486755
>Victory of the Daleks

Good troll m8 almost had me

after all these years I have finally become last of the /who/ lords

>>82500124
YANA