What happened to South Park, when did it go all do wrong?

>>82451166
One of the creators got blacked. They also got old living in fagifornia. They conformed.

>>82451166
South Park jumped the shark with the scientology episode.

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>>82451166
When they decided to write plots entirely about current events with everything else as a side gag instead of the otherway around.

sometime right before they made the Book of Mormon play.

they really just started phoning it in with the pop culture reference episodes.

though the change of South Park from a tiny mountain town of rednecks. to a growing suburban city of annoying liberals. does have an interesting meta commentary. as it reflects the change in real colorado, as they got colonized by californians.

>>82451166

Having continuity throughout a season instead of being more episodic really lowered the quality.

>>82451280
>>82451735
these

>Issac Hayes leaving because of Scientology

>Matt and Trey getting older/married

>Getting new writers because they cant do every episode like they use to

>The country has changed so much since the show came out. So they adapt


Pick any one of those

>>82451956
>>82451735
>>82451280
/thread

>>82451166
last season or whatever (dicks out, muh vagina) was pretty funny.

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>/tv/ doesn't like the fact Matt and Trey hit too close to home with the latest season of South Park

>>82451956
The only real change since southpark started is political correctness stopped being a universal joke to everyone alive.

Mostly because it got jazzed up from being fruity pussy bullshit and made XTREEM for all the young kids as part of rebranding it as SOCIAL JUSTICE

The Kids stopped acting like real kids and became mouthpieces for the creators.

And for some fucking reason, Randy became the main character of the show. Randy is fine in small doses, but now he's fucking out of control and is all over the place.

They turned into self righteous hacks

>>82451202
No they didn't. What the fuck are you retards talking about?

>>82453503
Of course, trumpets are the most delicate flowers on the internet. Anything that might even remotely upset them warrants their eternal wrath.

>>82451735
DONT FUCKING REMIND ME

>>82453711
why do you libshits turn that special snowflake shit around? you're the ones with the i'm special mentality, eg. fag-parades, dyed hair n shit

>>82453711
>>82453974
T-TRANNIES ARE COMPLETELY NORMAL AND SANE AND HEALTHY *FUCK* DRUMPF!

>>82453548
PC hasn't been a "universal joke" ever since the government decided it can enforce speed codes/thought crime laws in the 50's

>>82451956
>writers
Nigger, Trey Parker is solely responsible for 99% of the writing in every episode.

>>82453974
>>82454018
youre both special snowflakes that get incredibly butthurt at the slightly provocation
'
i honestly hope drumpfledorp starts WW3 so I dont have to live on this planet with you fags

>>82453974
It's classic projection. They do the same thing when claiming ""science"" is on their side and the right-wing is more emotional.

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Look Ike, your daddy's a dolphin!

>>82451166
The second time they had a "final season."

I think it was about 3-4 years ago. I'd say the last good season was the "growing up" episode where Stan and Kyle stop being friends, that was unironically emotional. After that, yeah it became a shill for current events which gets boring.

>>82454090
Speed codes?
Are you a god damn alien?
They are speed limits, you fucking mong

>play music box
>non-diegetic soundtrack kicks in a moment later with an almost identical frequency
how

>>82451280
This. While they always had topical references they didn't frame entire seasons around stuff that's going to be horribly out of date in less than ten years.

>>82453554
Those two points are were annoyed the fuck out of me. Remember when the kids went on a big adventure just to get their game system back while ignoring all the crazy shit that was going on around them?

for such a long running show its not half bad, couldve been so much worse. i also think it was a mistake to focus episodes around recent events but if you think about it it was the most logical thing to do for them because they came into the very unique position of being able to produce an episode in less than a week.

Come on, fag. Listen to any fucking "commentary" of theirs. Gluten free works, home alarm security, my wife's black son doesn't watch TV and prefers PDP, i only slept well on 2 nights when GLOMKPF fucked up.
Just take last disgusting season as example. Started out with potential of Cartman as always jewing everybody for power pretending to be SJW, everybody getting too fucked up on nostalgia, (((Gerald))) being behind horrible things. Potential was endless, regardless of election result. Ended up in being brain cancer, we're not ready for Trump to win episode and LMAO BILL CLINTON FIRST GETLMAN DUDE. The fact that nobody in that writer's room quiestioned Cartman's transformation into WaPo movie reviewer says it all. Suck my balls, Kyle.

>>82451166
I think they need to just make a season with 0 political commentary. It would be fun to watch even if it's shitty

>>82451166
You outgrew it.

>>82451735
I never really thought of it that way, but you're absolutely right.

S19 was so good though.

>>82453654
Matt's stripper wife's son is black.

>>82456064
Well, south park has always been a for of social commentary.
And they said the next season would not have any us politics in it.

>>82456452
Thats actually tray

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>>82456641
My mistake

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> Reddit McCormick
> oh my god, they killed reddit
> you bastards

It started sucking around season 5. When it went from being irreverent and funny to being way too topical and preachy. Only the first few seasons were any good.

>>82451166
i thought the pc principal arc was pretty funny

am i gay

>>82456663
she is pretty cute though

>>82454194
A lawyer dolphin? A...a lawphin?

It's like Spongebob if Dryman and Hindenburg hadn't got the fuck out as soon as Shekelodeon played the "Yeah we could end it but we aren't going to" card.

Except they did, and Matt and Tray didn't, so... that's where it went wrong, precisely where it started.

Post your top tens, here are mine:
Asspen
Pip
Lil Crime Stoppers
Krazy Kripples
Terrance and Philip in Not Without My Anus
Cartman Joins NAMBLA
The New Terrance and Phillip Movie Trailer
Tweek vs Craig
The Entity
Casa Bonita

Rate my taste

>>82451166
Every other season.

They made a gigantic mistake agreeing to do five more seasons at the end of season 15. The "You're Getting Old" episode was one of the most self-aware episodes they've ever done, and they had a great opportunity to end it with a solid run of seven more episodes (back then seasons we're split in half, airing in the spring and the fall) but Comedy Central baited them by giving them outrageously good contracts. Then they put all their concentration into Book of Mormon and put the full brunt of their show on their writing staff, which is why the tone changed so drastically from season 16 and onward.

I grew up on this show so I will still watch it to the end, but the serialization of the new seasons has really been a let down.

>>82457170
Did you purposefully pick the worst episodes?

>>82457275

And I guess your favourites are Scott Tenorman Must Die, Make Love; Not Warcraft and Goodtimes With Weapons?

>>82456663
>that smug smile
It's like he knows he's taking this poor old white man for everything he's worth

>>82454116
They have a writing staff they switch out every season. Only writer who had a long tenure with them was Bill Hader since he's actually famous, but otherwise they prefer to staff newish writers who know one knows so they will go along with whatever portrayal of the writing environment Trey wants them to sell.

>>82457170
asspen and casa bonita are top tier, others are pretty good. 7/10 taste, at least you don't pretend to like anything past season 16

>>82451166
didn't they split their asscheeks for Hillary?

>>82456641
>>82456663
Tray is a pretty fucking nigger name though

>>82453554
I just heard them say on a recent podcast that Randy became a more prominent character because they started identifying more with that character than the kids since they've gotten older and become parents.

Whenever they stopped killing Kenny.

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>>82457504
It's Trey and he's a Germanic god
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0WZbgJKgeY

>>82457521

>Kenny Dies
Great episode. A lot of people say Scott Tenorman is when Cartman becomes the manipulative prick he is today but I honestly think this episode cements it, the way he tricked the government into pushing Stem Cell research so that he can grow his own Shaky's by exploiting Kenny's death was pretty genius.

>>82457342
I honestly can barely remember full episodes. I always found the one-liners better than the overall episodes and/or plot.

Unfortunately the one-liners sort of blend, and I can't remember which episodes the best ones pertain to. Makes rewatching pretty fun though.

>Trey Parker does all the actual work while Matt Stein handles the "coordination and business aspects of the production"
>works 120 hours a week for the entire duration of the season
>share 50/50 credit and earnings

>>82451166
I seems to me like they're focusing their writing on the games now

last good (=funny and memorable) episodes were in season 16 but the show started slowly going to shit at season 11

top10 in no order:
spookyfish
korn's groovy pirate ghosts
towelie
probably
cartmanland
asspen
a ladder to heaven
hell on earth 2006
guitar queer-o
over logging

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>>82457504
>mfw finding out his real name is Randolph Parker III, and Trey is a nickname for "the third"

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>>82457780
>trey is a nickname for the third
TRES BIEN

>>82451166

They became rich and therefore unmotivated.

>>82451223
That was one of the funniest episodes

Bigger, Longer and Uncut was fantastic.

>>82454116
haha nah..watch "6 days the making of south park" and come back..

>>82456663

Literally a chuck. I'm not surprised at all.

>>82458258

Oh to add fuel to it, that's the non-jewish one.

South Park Kino

Tweek vs. Craig
Butters' Very Own Episode
The Return of the Fellowship of the Ring to the Two Towers
Casa Bonita
Butt Out
Good Times with Weapons
Up the Down Steroid
The Death of Eric Cartman
Trapped in the Closet
Make Love, Not Warcraft
Stanley's Cup
Cartman Sucks
The Snuke (Hillary BTFO in this episode)
Britney's New Look
Breast Cancer Show Ever
Margaritaville
Fishsticks
Insheeption
Crack Baby Athletic Association
You're Getting Old

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>>82457170
>Asspen #1

Agreed

My top five rounded out are (in no order):

Mecha Streisand
Butters Very Own Episode
Not Without my Anus
Conjoined Fetus Lady

>>82458215
They really like musicals. Book of Mormon was hilarious and Cannibal the Musical was also great.

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>JING JONG JILL LOOPI LI

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>>82456663
Even though I am disgusted by race-mixing, the thing that triggers me the most are those white shoes.

watching "the f word" episode for example it's just fun for the sake of being fun, now the show is pure trash

>>82458248
The amount of clueless fucks saying talking out of their asses in this thread is disgusting

>>82458377
Not the jacket that goes to his knees and the pants that reach his heels?

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>>82458377
>vomit knight
PRAISE THE FUCKING SUN YOU BITCH

>>82458411
wat? Just watch that documentary, you'll see that Trey doesn't come up with stories all on his own

They got too political. I mean the fact that they delayed the episode, which is only the second time that ever happened, because they didn't have the episode ready for if Trump won is just said. So many of the jokes weren't funny, they were just basking in the low hanging fruit of "it's the end of the world and Trump is stupid" without actually trying to be funny. The war room is the epitome of this.

Also the member berries. Holy shit did they get old

When they stopped making fun of everyone else's beliefs and started making fun of mine and making me uncomfortable ;_;

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>>82457762
>"The gang and I wrote a song about it, and it goes goes a little something like this."
>"And a one, and a two, and a FUCK"
good shit

>>82458451
Of course, it's hideous, but the combination with those white shoes is just inexcusable.

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>>82458589
member when posts had quality to em?

>>82458564

Trey has more creative input now than ever before.

>>82458753
He STILL doesn't come up with them all on his own

>>82456836
liberace gay

only middle schoolers who play call of duty find it funny

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Can someone explain the whole member berries joke? How was this even remotely funny

>>82458957
it wasn't
this show has been shit since since about season 10 sans maybe ~20 memorable episodes since then

>>82458636
That's cute and all but S20 was poorly structured. They dropped Member Berries halfway through with no explanation. And how conveniently people forget Trump was lampooned in Season 19, and that was actually funny.

They experimented with continuity in the 19th season, and it was still pretty good. Every episode had its own identity but ultimately all tied together. Episodes in season 20 have the problem of not concluding properly because they were part of a season-long arc that only had a payout near the end.

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they got BLACKED

>>82458957
It's making fun of people's obsession with nostalgia which ultimately turned into nothing but Star Wars references.

They became to self-concious their instead of having episodes with sometimes refrences or commentary the show pretty much shoves down some message about some recent event
South Park has become a caricature of itself

>>82458167
No it wasn't, not if you know anything about Scientology.

All Matt and Trey did was pander to a bunch of conspiracy theorists.

>>82459488
tom please go

>>82453554

Randy is great you fag

>>82459488
Shouldn't you be stalking Leah Remini?

>>82458636
This. The butt of the joke was meant to be everyone in the world other than me.
All their arguments up until now have been flawless and exposed how wrong everyone other than me is. However when my own position came under fire I thought their arguments were silly and they didn't do their research.

>>82459593
Sure is a weird coincidence that everybody stopped liking South Park in the most recent seasons. Probably has nothing to do with the quality of the show, though. They're definitely just triggered!

>>82451280
This. The main 4 boys seem like passive actors to 'le current events joke' rather than actual characters with agency or distinct personalities

>>82458829
No one is claiming that. He WRITES them on his own.

>>82454155
>>82453974
now this is what i call projection

>>82460093

The "Madd and Drey are le lebdard guggs now" line seems to be what a lot of T_d and /pol/ faggots are criticising them over for the most recent season.

Ofcourse most completely miss how complimentary season 20 was towards Trump. The storyline of Gerald getting the entire world to hate Denmark is a reference "muh 4D chess" in that Trump used the same phenomena to get elected by taking advantage of the "enemy of my enemy" instinct withing people.

>>82457170
Apart from Pip, all 10/10

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Still find the first seasons the best. Probably because there were no expectations whatsoever and they just did whatever the hell came into their heads.

>>82451735
>They got colonized by Californians

That actually happened in an episode, the independent movie festival one.

Mr. Hanky managed to free the town from its grips, but I suppose the damage was done, a slow burn.

>>82457170
what about Scott Tenerman

>>82453554
>And for some fucking reason, Randy became the main character of the show.

even worse, butters become main character too

>anons not listing Scott Tenorman Must Die
how much of a hipster can you be

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>>82461283
>>82461244

The Whacky Molestation Adventure, Casa Bonita, Medicinal Fried Chicken, and Die Hippie, Die! are my top episodes.

>>82451166

They were forced to hate on trump due to hollywood peer pressure and it lost it's comedic authenticity.

>>82457170
Korn's Groovy Pirate Ghost Mystery
Cow Days
The New Terrance and Phillip Movie Trailer
Lil Crime Stoppers
Stupid Spoiled Whore Video Playset
Quest for Ratings
Timmy 2000
Crippled Summer
Cartman Joins NAMBLA
Christian Rock Hard

Top Ten

Pee
You're Getting Old
Mel Gibson is Crazy
The Dolphin Encounter
I am Mantequilla
Major Boobage
The Losing Edge
Good Times with Weapons
Crazy Cripples
Scott Tennorman

I still like it a lot.

>>82461244
>>82461283
meme episode

>>82451735

California is a plague on this country that needs to be destroyed.

>>82464398
very cool

>>82458957
member berries didn't even have a point, they were in the white house for some reason and this master plan was hyped up and nothing happened

fuck current year south park

>>82451166
Internet humor and culture pumping out social commentary faster than they can make episodes.
When your show turns into this >>82451280 without any other substance, then you are bound to compete with other outlets that contain absurdist social commentary (such as the internet).

>>82453974

they're not smart enough to come up with reasoning so they use feelings and appeal to emotion instead while copying what other people use as insults as a retort

the mind of a liberal never matures after a certain point, refuses to accept responsibility, and longs to return to a juvenile state.

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>>82464757
>They don't member

>>82458303
>You're Getting Old
This should've been the last episode, or at least status quo shouldn't have returned in the next episode

>>82451166

The death of chef, seriously. That's a great demarcation point for the quality of the show, which as a cultural meme goes well with the literal orgin of the Happy Days shark-jump.

The REASON for the death of chef was ultimately a good thing though, as I can remember been an edgy teen, knowing that Isaac Hayes was slept, and waiting anxiously for them to take Scientology to task (they flirted with this with "Blaine-tology, t'aw"). Then they actually did so, and I was impressed. Isaac Hayes was a good part of the show but I appreciate that they did something to piss him off, even if it ultimatley made the show worse, because there's a principle involved.

I've watched an episode or two in the past five years but I hung it up somewhere around that point.

t. oldfag

>>82465258
You are confused. Feelings and appeal to emotion are what the right do.

t. Newt Gringrich

>>82465775

You're proving my point by literally copying what I just said and using it as an insult, and you don't even understand how absolutely laughable liberalism is.

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Eat, Pray, Queef

Episode Summary: Muh Vagina

>>82451166

>It's a /pol/tard thinks tongue in cheek humor is people agreeing with him episode

>>82464335
>>82461348
C'mon now Soctt Tennorman is legit one of the funniest episodes ever made.

I hate what it did to Cartman's character though.

>>82459488
>>82459547
lol'd

>>82466097
It's not funny on repeat, though. The whole punchline to that episode was seeing the plot twist at the end.

>>82465775
Since about 2005 both the left and the right have been completely identical in form and function, all that differs is what emotionally based hot button issues each side bands about.

>>82465847
Totally bro. NatSoc all the way amirite? Or are you AnCap? Commie maybe? No no, Libertarian like Matt and Trey! That's it! Way to miss the point entirely r-tard.

>>82453503

This pretty much.

The irony for me personally is that I actually identified so strongly with Gerald.

>>82466400

these are wonderful clown posts

you should save them should you ever want to make someone laugh again

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>>82466734
Great idea anon thanks!

>>82451166
They're jokes stopped being about fads and started turning into fart jokes.

They used to make fun of fart joke shows, then they became one. Lazy writing is cheaper than good writing and since they already had a following of the kind of people who can never admit when something they like has become shit they just rolled with it.

>>82454294
Less than 10 years? Son, it's already almost all out-dated as fuck. So forgettable it sincerely makes me angry and upset. Even the "best" new ones just contain a couple laughs and still a forgettable plot. It's all fucked.

>>82453711
>>82466682
>turns everything into political discussion
Thats another reason the show went to shit.

>>82457170
Korn's Groovy Ghost Pirate Mystery
4th Grade
A Ladder to Heaven
Casa Bonita
Marjorine
Mystery of the Urinal Deuce
The List
Breast Cancer Show Ever
You're Getting Old
Tweek x Craig

>>82467099
this

>>82458636
But they didn't used to make fun of most peoples beliefs. In fact most episodes used to end in them making fun of both sides and then saying fuck it, it doesn't really matter or finding a compromise. But thats also when the show started going downhill.

>>82467099
thats gay

>>82467099
>openly posting desire to have sexual relations with a character whose clearly depicted as a prepubescent young boy

Stop this shit.

>>82460093
>revent months
I stopped caring about the show for years and years. Then out of the blue I hear they are shilling politics so I checked them out and it was pure garbage. The show was just not good enough when I dropped it but now its gotten so bad that I can't help but say something because i'm autistic and can't stand to see people enjoying such a shitty show.

>>82460734
It doesn't matter what political side they lean with. The show is shit and has been shit for years now.

>>82464398
Just destroy the Bay Area and parts of Los Angeles and you'll be fine.

>>82465489
>t.oldfag
newfag
>>82467502
get out

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CHOKE A SOUTH PARK WRITER WITH A FISHSTICK

>>82453974
It's like how cons tried to make "liberals are the real racists" happen, no one actually believes them, but it allows them to jerk each other off and not confront criticism.>>82454018

South Park was irrelevant and shit for YEARS but when they did an episode making fun of SJWs every single fucking retard started sucking their dicks and claiming they were BASED /OURGUYS/ SJWs BTFOOOOO and if you said "South Park has been irrelevant and shit for years" you were just a butthurt SJW numale cuck etc etc.

And now they've "betrayed" you by making fun of Trump. Of course they make fun of Trump. Regardless of how you feel about him you have to see that he's very clearly someone that South Park would lampoon. If your bias or desperate need to defend Trump makes you think that "Matt and Trey have CHANGED" then you haven't got a fucking clue.

>nobodies mentioning chinpokomon

>>82457170
Good list - but I feel that Majorine flies under the radar

>>82468020
Liberals are racists but they don't like to admit. The right on the other hand will admit they are racist. I am racist. Fuck off and stop talking politics. Why don't you go back to your shitty colbert threads.
>>82468034
I remember south parked being shilled hard for a short time. Some guy was even pretending to be Trey Parker while posting. But yes, it was always shit and then they shilled it back into existence but it was still shit.

It started going wrong when they started doing multiple-part episodes regularly.

It got worse now that they're making seasons with overarching stories.

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>>82468020
>could not possibly fit more perfectly into the definition of a racist
>literally promote institutionalized racism
>not racist

>>82467374
>they didn't used to make fun of most peoples beliefs

so you've never watched south park?

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>>82467099

>>82468020
HAHA what? I'm black and every time a hardcore lefty finds out that I'm republican or don't think like the other blacks, they berate me.

They literally think all minorities are supposed to think the same, their college professors never taught them diversity of thought. They're so racist that it's blatant.

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>>82469063
That's my biggest problem with them, they view minorities as a monolith. Liberals have this huge savior complex, and if we don't align with their worldview that we are "poor oppwessed people of color" that need their help, you are accused of being "internally oppressed," which, ironically, is pretty racist when you think about it. I'm not fond of conservatives but at least they are blunt as it pertains to their opinions on matters like this.

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Awesom-O was always my favorite episode

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>>82451735
>as it reflects the change in real colorado, as they got colonized by californians
FUCK THESE GOD DAMN TRANSPLANTS

>>82453711
I have yet to see a single instance of this actually happening

How many people on 4chan actually voted for trump? 7?

The only people "getting butthurt" are people getting annoyed at your inane phoned-in diatribe