Star Trek Discovery

Not at all

>>82429109
I hated hearing everything about it from the cast until I realized the black chick is actually a seasoned actor from TWD, a character I know and have seen.

I hate it more now for the fact that CBS is going to show a piliot on television and then move it to their gay streaming service now one will buy.

>>82429109
no

Do they have sexy costumes for the ladies?

>>82429289
>what is pirating
If I like the pilot I might actually pay for their service since this is probably go to be the last Trek show for a LONG time if it fails.

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>>82429109

>>82429109
>mentioned but never explored in previous series
lets start guessing

>>82429337

no that's misogynist

>>82429369
The asian chick isn't a member of the Discovery crew.
Jason Isaacs is the captain of the Discovery.

>>82429378
Easy, first ship to go through the great galactic barrier

>>82429109
I don't give a shit. Dead franchise for me.

>>82429338
Sign up for CBS all access trial
Try show: if not like, cancel.

I for one like to cycle the trials and get entirely free streaming. Sign up for 30 day trial of dish or direct online, both come with prime and parter streaming for 30days free, then cancel out at 29th day. Then repeat process thru the other guys like Uverse, direct, cox cable ect.. they all have free trial runs, just need to give their systems time after each one, about 120 days to do it again

>>82429338
Just download it the next day for free

>>82429109
Not at all.

>>82429563
Yeah but if it's actually good CBS needs to know people want to see more of it.

>>82429369
Make it into a Sealab 2021-esque comedy. Every other episode, they allahu akbar the ship in a Ferengi marketplace.

>>82429431
what makes you so sure, brotherman?

>>82429109
I just hope they let characters keep their development, unlike in enterprise

>>82429800
What did you mean by this?

The observant Muslim crewmember and the prayer room are the dealbreaker for me. Until that's confirmed I'll give it a chance.

not really, but I'm going to watch it so that's probably a good thing. it means low expectations.

i really wish it wasn't a prequel. even if it had been something like Voyager that ultimately meant nothing for the larger storyline, it at least opens up the possibility of something big happening. Enterprise was just implicitly less interesting than other Trek series for that reason. it's a show about the new and unknown.

>>82429369
an asian lady given a recurring guest role in MY star trek?

i'm truly triggered

>>82429109
Thats a good cast so yeah I'm looking forward to seeing it. I kind of hope they meld the movie style with a little Enterprise.

>>82429531
if you're lucky it'll finally be out about the time BB OTT 2 is on

>>82430324

Star Trek already had a Middle Eastern recurring character, but in all of the shows past original no one mentions religion unless it's some made up alien religion that can stand in for literally anything

>>82430324
A koo chee moya.

>>82432098
knowing that it's [current year] it'll probably be brought up every other scene

>>82430413
Can you imagine the temper tantrum these guys would throw if DS9 was made today and the cast list came out

>>82432098
Voyager had Chakotay's vision quests and shit.

>>82429109
I hope it fails.
How dare anyone do this to Star Trek it could have been a great return to Star Trek TNG format but it's going to be SJW shit and you know it you know the whole season is going to be about Refugees and Cuckolding YOU JUST FUCKING KNOW IT

>>82429369

Other than the terrorist I don't see a problem.

Just looking at the Klingons is enough to tell me that they don't give a shit and that the show will be ass.

>>82429109
None of these are selling points for me. Let Star Trek die.

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>>82429369
It always makes me laugh when people accuse Star Trek of having a pro-diversity agenda. It has since 1966. Yet somehow it outrages the alt right anyway.

Why is it all this pre-TOS stuff now?
Doesn't anyone want to see what might happen after the Dominion War or something maybe?

>>82432769
>Can you imagine the temper tantrum these guys would throw if DS9 was made today and the cast list came out

The only Asian lady with a recurring role was appropriately a soulless wooden automaton.

>>82432875
>could have been a great return to Star Trek TNG format but it's going to be SJW shit

You do realize that TNG was SJW shit for the '80/90s, right? Other than the Tribal Nigger Planet ep.

>>82433406
what?

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>>82433406
Do you even Trek?

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>>82433514
>>82433712
>DS9

>>82429505
This.
I'd just rewatch the old series

>>82433949
>neckbeard is threatened by strong-willed woman

>>82429109
>Fear The Walking Dead lady as the main character and first officer
I hate niggers too but I think you mean The Walking Dead y'know since it was Season 7B's big sacrifice

>>82434065

Keiko was a passive poorly written and poorly acted character in every single appearance, except the one where she was possessed.

Miles O'Brien: The guy whose wife is only enjoyable when she's Satan

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>>82434065
>angry Japanese hate ghost
>strong-willed woman

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>>82430324

>>82434103
>passive

Throwing words at the wall? They didn't give her a lot to do plot-wise, but she was never passive.

>>82434161
>implying our man is a dirty muzzie

>>82433442
TNG was left wing but it was almost all white.

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>>82433370

Nemesis is as far as the timeline got IIRC

But we don't talk about that shit film here

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>>82434275
Nemesis is excellent though.

>>82434316

t. Rick Berman

>>82434353
You must break through the fog of lies RLM has created around you.
Let me help you to know the subtleties of Nemesis.

>>82434376

Well it's better than Insurrection at least

>>82434615
Whoa whoa inserection was the best of those shit movies.

>>82433712

except for that one episode about her and her friends she was pretty much an extra..

They need to just make a series with what happens after DS9 and Voyager. The only series that matter are TOS, TNG, Voyager and DS9. The TOS movies and the TNG movies too I guess.

Enterprise, the new Star Trek films and anything new that's set in the past or "prequels" nonsense needs to get the fuck out. They just fuck with the timeline and make it so all sorts of shit in TNG, Voyager and DS9 wouldn't have ever happened. And that's coming from someone that thought the majority of Voyager was shit.

Discovery will just be more fucking with the timeline bullshit, and I hope it rots in hell.

>>82429431
so... 30 years after the time the series is set, by the enterprise - a?

>>82432098
>middle eastern but behaves likewise to what a starfleet officer should
>middle eastern that behaves like a 13th century middle eastern on a spaceship

pick one

>>82435549
The *other* great galactic barrier.

>>82433370
if i'm not wrong, at least the last 3 or 2 tng movies happened after the war

>>82435580
>>82432098
Oh, like what they did with the American Indian officer and shoving all that preach native american spiritual bullshit and their fucking spirit animal bullshit trying to convert innocent viewers to native american belief systems migrating in mass to other countries causing economic crisis, raping women in mass, throwing around anti-christian and anti-jewish hate speech and committing acts of native american terrorism left and right?

Yep.

Totally the same deal as putting an innocent member of the religion of peace on a star ship.

>>82435591
the enterprise again then? the only other ship that got that close was in 2065 and it was destroyed

>>82435708
that's one of the reasons voyager is shit

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>>82435633
Only the last one.

Insurrection was during the war, right after Worf's wife died.
>"Worf, how good to see you. What brings you here?"
>"Actually, Captain, I requested a leave of absence after the unfortunate d--"
>"Just kidding, Worf, I don't actually care. Go bother someone else, I'm busy wearing a silly headdress."

I want a Lost in Space style Star Trek where they're flung galaxies upon galaxies upon galaxies away, and have to deal with actual alien looking Aliens. You know, like if SGU and Voyager got their act together and actually delivered on their fucking concepts.

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guys what if

we're all wrong and it's actually pretty good.

>>82435755
so picard was dicking around doing useless stuff instead of fucking shit up with that sovereign class ship of his?

>>82435776
If all the rumors/information are wrong, then maybe

>>82435740
Not saying it wasn't ham fisted, I even agree that most Voyager episodes were pretty hard to watch. I'm just saying there's a difference between wanting actual diversity, but pulling it off badly, and shoving in things this modern brand of progressive that are so obsessed with being progressive and diverse that it's turned into some sort of self hating/loathing/self destructive cult mindset.

>>82435776

I'd rather things be good, instead of terrible. So I'd be happy.

>>82429109
Hmmm let me think, it's a prequel that doesn't advance the DS9 story but instead is pandering to the TOS which we already know what happens in that timeline.

Thanks but no thanks, tired of prequels.

>>82435820
It's only the rumors that we have to worry about.

The information is mostly fine. No bad actors, no bad writers, only two bad producers, and CBS All Access is only an issue for Americans.

>>82429109
Anyone else dislike the Star Trek religion?

>>82433442
>SJW shit for the '80/90s
What do you mean by that? Because everyone has a different definition.
Also, you might be incurring into an anachronism.

>>82435896

The model makers don't like the ship designs. They say the old style models sell better, and that these too closely resemble new style trek which tends to sell less.

The rumors about reshoots, delays, inner turmoil, revolving door positions as people get booted or get sick of things, the rumors about the writing and actual characters?

I mean, I'm willing to give it a go, but CBS all access sounds like it could hurt things. They probably should have teamed up with Netflix or Hulu or HBO/Showtime for a new Trek series. They're hoping it'll attract people to all access instead of going with a service that has a decent sized user base.

>>82435972
Please do not respond to me with rumors.

I already agreed that the rumors are worrying, but the confirmed information (not rumors) is mostly fine.

>They probably should have teamed up with Netflix
They did. Netflix is part of the financing. Outside of America, it's available on Netflix worldwide.

>>82435776
I would LOVE to be proven wrong and will happily eat my words.

However I'm sick and tired of bullshit prequels, I want a series that takes place after nemesis. Continue the story and stop going backwards

>>82435925
>Anyone else dislike the Star Trek religion?
Is that atheism or agnosticism?

>>82436088
I feel like they think that post-NEM would be continuity heavy and alienate new viewers.

>>82435937
>>82433442
>>82434237
TNG/Voyager/DS9 were all pretty tame and inoffensive in the 80s/90s, people outside of trekkies tended to think of them as dull boring shows. Compared to other things at the time, they never really pushed any real limits. The only one that did was TOS with a couple episodes here and there that, for the time, were shocking, but they were small moments like the kiss out of a greater whole of the run.

The progressive aspects of Star Trek have been hyped up well beyond anything they originally represented. They are there, but they aren't anything like the modern progressive movements that push diversity and white guilt as something more akin to a religion or cult. Not saying all modern progressives do that, but the extremist elements have been clearer and louder for the past handful of years which colors perception and the sort of people that get into writing, directing and other positions as we've seen in the comic industry and the like. The problem is how badly it's effected sales because no matter how loud or wide spread this ideology may seem, it really is still a minority. A loud annoying minority, but a infirmity that when the general populace is exposed to it, they tend to just stop buying the shit pushing it unless its a name so big that people bought in without knowing what had been shoved in ahead of time, making it look like a success up front, with the grumbling coming after.

I'll be curious to see what people think of the 2010s, looking back, a couple decades from now.

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>>82436088

we're only getting prequels because that's what sells the most. People who don't know Star Trek at least know what Kirk and Spock is therefore $$$$ t. the JJ Abrams school of film.

>>82436064
>outside of america
That'd be the problem. America needs to get with the fucking program.

>>82433210
I agree with this. I think the only thing that fucks up ST is if they have a female lead. For all the leftist shit in the series Picard and (((Kirk )))are extremely traditional male heroes.

>>82436169
>pretty tame and inoffensive
>they never really pushed any real limits
Religion is bad.
Money is bad.
Terrorism is not always evil.
Work only if you like your job.
Multiculturalism is good.

Though it was presented in subtle ways most of the time, I think that is pushing the envelope.

About the 'loud minorities', I agree in general, but it depends on which group we consider, and how they're percieved in each region, time, social group, etc.
There's a lot of chaos and atomization.

>>82436211
>For all the leftist shit in the series
You don't agree with the general ideology of Star Trek?
>Picard and (((Kirk))) are extremely traditional male heroes.
Kirk yes (but, that's old, 1960s), but Picard? Remember his speeches against money and in favor of personal improvement? Or against religion in general? Or always trying the diplomatic solution and not getting involved in other peoples affaires?
I wouldn't call him traditional / conservative at all.

>>82436156
>>82436200
I get that and it makes perfect sense, but as a trek fan it's very frustrating

God I wanna lick that girl from TWDs ass hole. Fucking bet its so tangy

>>82433210
you've fallen for mainstream media fake news. the 'alt-right' doesn't care, because they know star trek has been diverse from the start

>didn't see Jackson's last two Hobbit movies
>didn't see Star Trek Beyond
>have still seen every Star Wars movie but am a hairsbreadth away from dropping it
>Conan the Barbarian remake stars a Samoan
>NetHack DevTeam officially replaced by numales for no reason
>can't even play a LucasArts kickstarter revival without being forced to main an 80s chick who somehow has a modem
>can't go to a friendly speech by my favourite author and commentator without antifa smashing me in the face with Molotov cocktails
What has happened to America?

everything is pointing to a dumpster fire, but sometimes you end up with a good product despite it all.

>>82429850
I mean that 99% of the character development in Enterprise was unwound the next episode and never mentioned again

>>82439095
But that's completely false.

>>82439009
I bet you've never even ascended.

They are trying too hard to be different in every which way possible.

If they want to the cast to be as diverse as possible that is fine, because that makes sense in a universe where Alien races are in the federation along with with Earth.

Making the Captain not the main character is a dumb move. It's so much 'free' writing opportunities when you are focusing in the Captain, that person is in charge and that person has to make the tough decisions. You are still able to write good stories that focus on the other characters because they did it so well in TNG.

It won't be a Star Trek like anything we have ever seen, and that's a bad thing.

>>82439144
Pacifist tourist was my favourite. The mail I got from confused freenode viewers who didn't understand what I was doing was almost the best part.

Illiterate wizard was also really fun, sadly I couldn't read any of the mails the mail daemon brought to me.

Its going to bomb because they are probably expecting it to be more popular than it will be due to the success of the JJ movies. What they dont realize is that the vast majority of people dont give a fuck about star trek. A movie every once in awhile is fine, but they dont want to watch a fucking tv series. So trying to appeal to those people is pointless and will result in the shows failure.

It's been a long road

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>>82436211
>only thing that fucks up ST is if they have a female lead
>when Voyager is best Trek

>>82429109

>is about an event "mentioned but never explored in previous series"


Why TOS Klingons look different from TNG ones?

>>82439150
I think it's a fresh idea and opens up the possibility of a different format of trek, which is really needed if the show is going to evolve and not just rehash the same tired tropes of the previous series

>>82439529
>voyager is best
they scrapped the plans for the year of hell plot arc and decided that it would be a metaphorical year of hell for the viewers

>>82429109
Not one bit. Sounds dull.

Meh another prequel shit, Parts of Enterprise were good but zero people watched them because they had no relevance to the universe.

Give me post dominion war content and I won't care if it's shit I will eat it up.

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>>82440038
>voyager is best
correct answer crewman

Wait, it's set ten years before TOS, so it basically takes place at the same time as the new movie series?

Rainn Wilson

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Try a bowl of my leola-root stew crewman?

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Neelix reboot show when?

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It's Starship Captain Neelix aboard the Orphanage ship Cunnyprise

>>82433370
Because the are no Star Trek movies or TV shows aimed at Star Trek fans. Why? Because there aren't enough of us to cover the hundreds of millions of dollars they throw into this shit, it has to appeal to everyone if they want to make a single cent back, so they only do TOS because everyone knows who Captain Kirk is.

>>82436064
>but the confirmed information (not rumors) is mostly fine
That's because they've announced NOTHING AT ALL. This whole thread sounds like marketing.

>>82436976
>Remember his speeches against money
Nope, I remember him mentioning that they don't use it twice, but not doing speeches against it
>Or against religion in general?
Nope, there was the Mintakan stuff but that was about their religion, not religion in general
>Or always trying the diplomatic solution and not getting involved in other peoples affaires?
Yeah like Symbiosis

>I wouldn't call him traditional / conservative at all.
I bet you wouldn't

>>82439965

We do not discuss it with outsiders.

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>>82440245

It will be a Neelix cooking show spin-off featuring Guy Fieri

>>82443615

that was the perfect explanation, but noo enterprise had to go and actually cover it..

>>82441725
>there aren't enough of us
There are enough of you. You just won't pay, at least not easily and without lots of tricks employed. It's easier to appeal to the group of people who will pay than it is to appeal to you lot.

>>82443659
>Non-Trek fans will subscribe to our online streaming service with adverts just to watch Star Trek Discovery
This is going to be wonderful. I hope Netflix gave you a good deal for the international stuff because that's all you're getting.

>>82443656

Enterprise ruined a lot of things.

Except for Andorians, needed more of those dudes.

>>82443778
Myopia. STD is being spread outside of America, and it's not streaming. There are bonkers broadcast ad deals outside of America. USD is shit anyway. Notice how the ongoing popular franchises all bring in the Yuan, oftentimes more than the dollar?

If TPP had gone through you might have seen Star Trek on broadcast in the USA.

Two words:

>Muslim character

holy shit stop making prequals nobody likes them

>>82443922
The Chinks are based and hate niggers, they won't be watching this shit either.

>>82443974
Why do you think Jason Isaacs is captain? Doesn't matter what the show is about, marketing optics will make sure this is an overseas hit even in regressive nations. You did see how The Force Awakens was sold, right?

Also, this is on broadcast TV in Canada, dude. That's 30 million viewers right there, and they don't even have to be tricked.

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>>82429505
Trek is not dead to me... yet.

As for Star Wars, it's long gone and buried.

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It's alright folks
I'm back

>>82444091
TV shows aren't movies, even if you trick them into watching the pilot, they'll realise what it's about pretty quickly and not watch the rest, as they don't have to pay for a ticket to watch it, the trick won't do anything for the studios.

>>82444160
The first season will only be 9 hours of television. Pretty sure I could trick fucking Chinese people into watching at least 6 hours of it to the tune of 600 million US dollars. All 9 might be tough depending on the quality but not impossible, especially when you consider that edits can and will be made for international markets.

Yeah, STD is going to spread even if you don't like it.

>>82444099

>As for Star Wars, it's long gone and buried.

Don't worry anon, even Mark Hamil agrees with you.

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>>82444091
>this is on broadcast TV in Canada, dude. That's 30 million viewers right there
>the entire population of Canada will watch a TV show

I hope they end up permanently in the future or something, start in TOS era and end up 100 years after next gen era.

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>>82435476
This

>>82434376
>Let me help you to know the subtleties of Nemesis.
Not him, but go ahead

all I remember is that it was about a clone or something

>>82435896
Yeah I was glad space channel in Canada cut a special deal with them so I can see the whole thing, I don't know why they don't just put it on CBS, talk about killing a shoe out of the gate