wtf I love Obamacare now

He didn't blame Trump for his son's defect.

>>82360946
Yeah that is the fault of his old wife

>>82360946
He's already setting the mood for "if you vote against ACA, you're nazi baby killers!" At this point, no one will do anything and just leave the ticking time bomb going until it's somebody else's problem

>>82361256
Why should the tax payer be punished for someone's else defective genes

>>82361367
im okay with paying for someone's healthcare if they have a genetic issue they couldnt control

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>>82361367
Yeah, because you having to pay taxes is so much more tragic than someone dying unnecessarily.

Never change, reichtard.

>>82361417
>>82361429
Taxation is theft

>>82361429
Fuck anyone that isn't me, my children, or my family. I'm not paying for Jimmy Kimmel's mistakes because he decided he want to fuck reproduce a spawn with a geriatric patient.

>>82361256
I thought liberals loved killing babies though.

>>82360946
No, he blamed Trump for taking away the insurance requirements (which he isn't) that were created by Obama, that were not used on his son because children are covered on their parent's insurance and infants can't have "preexisting conditions" because in the eyes of the law they didn't "exist" before birth

>>82361509

Ha. There's always at least of you tax whiners in every thread.

Let's say I agree with you...so fucking what? You will ALWAYS HAVE TO PAY TAXES. Doesn't matter where you live, what you do, how much you complain. You can slap all the anti-IRS bumperstickers on your pickup you want to, and that will never change.

So as long as it's inevitable, you might as well have your tax dollars go towards something other than cruise missiles.

>>82361615
they do

>>82360886
can he not afford medical treatment?

>>82361573
oh nice, you filtered vowels.

>>82361429
t. unemployed

>>82361615
Only if they're illegal immigrant anchor babies.

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>>82361631
we're running out of bombs though. even cnn doesn't deny it.

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>>82361583
Blah, blah, blah, me, myself, and I.

Reminds me of some conservative whose wife was shopping around a GoFundMe for his health care. I never had a better laugh in my life, looking at the photo of him looking half-dead in his hospital bed.

I said a prayer for him (that he'd go bankrupt over medical bills, that is) and made myself a tasty cup of coffee afterwards. Was pretty good...not enough sugar, though.

so kimmel is nearly 50 and his latest wife is nearly 40

what did they think was going to happen?

>>82361820
they probably didnt know or care

>>82361631
Good goy

>>82361810
>not enough sugar, though.

Oh accursed monkey paw! What demon from the depths of hell created thee?

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>>82361927
>>82361740

Actual /pol/ "arguments". Sure beats having to fire up a few neurons, I s'pose.

>>82361367
I hope you have children with genetic disorders and you become enslaved to an insurance company with debt you and your child will never pay off, you greedy faggot

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>>82360886
This is becoming straight up North Korea style propaganda. So bizarre to watch.

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>>82361810
Nothing wrong with spoiling yourself. I too plan to enjoy the nicer things whenever I'm not paying for mutant ninja turtle babies with geriatric mothers and other burdens of life.

>>82361583
Uh huh, go ahead and pretend like you're not just as reliant on social services as the rest of us.

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>encouraged viewers to put aside their political differences to hold politicians accountable for health care issues.

This is quite literally the entire problem; Healthcare shouldn't be political. What the fuck is wrong with this country? Why does the Government need to be involved with its citizens on a cellular level?

>>82361417

Which leads to more genetics problems in the future and higher costs

>>82361367
>Why should the tax payer be punished for someone's else defective genes
Why would you respond to the possibility of being labelled a "nazi baby killer" by saying something that sounds exactly like what a nazi baby killer would say?

>>82361367
why should the taxpayer pay for emergency services after you and your wife are raped by niggers?

some services are essential and only govt exists as a large enough body to organize and coordinate those services for everyone

>>82362102
I'm not, but if this keeps up, I just will one day.

>>82362102
Some of us work actual jobs and provide for our families off our own hard work instead of leeching off everyone else.

>>82362073
>mutant ninja turtle babies with geriatric mothers and other burdens of life

If that's how you actually feel when reading about babies with heart defects, then it's pretty clear that nothing I say will ever get through to you. Take care, buddy.

>>82362127
not necessarily

>>82360886

Whats stupid is he didn't make any of kind of point. Or he tried to but muddled the whole thing.

First he says the hospital saved his kid, which hes thankful for. Then he says he saw other families who didn't have the money to save their kids. Then he said we had to protect healthcare. Wait, so he wants to keep things as they are? Obamacare ain't saving those dying kids. The only thing it did was force insurance companies to ALLOW people to buy insurance if they could afford it. They still have to pay the goddamn premiums, deductibles and fucking bills.

So is he advocating tearing up Obamacare and installing free healthcare for all? Nigga needs to step back, get his shit together and think before he speaks. His defective kid has derailed his thought process.

>>82362320
he was just reading a teleprompter

>>82362259
Yeah, because bad things never happen to good people. Just work hard and shit luck will slide off of you like butter. Sounds legit.

>>82360886
>wife is 40 years old
>having a baby at all
It should be criminal. At that age you have a higher risk of birth defects than you would've if you fucked your sister. Seriously.

>>82362252
I'd rather just pay a monthly bill for emergency services from a private corporation that actually has quality control.

Police and Fire may as well be like Healthcare; You pay for it if you think you need it. It's your risk and your responsibility.

>inb4 removing police would increase crime

>>82362259
I work too, idiot. Our society is a better place when there are less broke and sick people around.

Pay your taxes and stop whining like a bitch.

>>82362357
Being good doesn't automatically make you responsible. If you're living life in a way that you're a single bad incident away from welfare, then it was your fuck up, not societies. You don't NEED the new iPhone, you don't NEED high speed internet, you don't NEED cable television and a vehicle you can barely pay on when you're a block away from the bus stop.

This generation of gibsmedat has no notion of fiscal responsibility and whenever they hit a crisis and go into the poor house, they blame everyone but themselves.

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>>82362320
It's almost as if Republicans had allowed the single payer option healthcare in this country might be less retarded. But they didn't, and then bitched about it for eight years, and then came up with the most retarded plan ever which they couldn't pass even though they control the house, senate, and presidency.

>>82362393
>gibs me ur money and quit complainin
>you should be so lucky to give your hard earned cash to someone who is irresponsible with their own
I wonder why the number of niggers like yourself on welfare continues to rise every year?

>>82362263
Don't fuck zombies expecting healthy newborns, it's just that simple. And a fuck off to you as well.

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>>82362437
I've never seen anyone beg harder for a karmic buttfuck in my life. Enjoy it, anon.

>>82362437
There's literally no comparison to be made between the cost of a phone and the cost of healthcare you blithering idiot. Also, if you don't live in an urban area, there is fuck all for public transit. You're dumb.

>>82361367
Kids with birth defects should just be mandatory killed. We put down animals at the pound, I don't see why we should put down kids that will only be a burden on society.

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yeah it's a shame that people were just dying on the streets before 2013 or whenever obamacare passed

>>82362533
>working hard, sacrificing the extras for being responsible means karma will fuck you
>living beyond your means and leeching off the hard work of others means you're owed a karmic handjob

The delusion in this generation never ceases to impress.

>>82362533
yeah, keep believing that karma meme there, home slice.

>>82362368

Emergency services, like many many things, is more efficient if it's run as a national insurance service. Go read a history book and find out what happens when fire services are privatised.

Why do republicans hate helping people so much?

i have a genetic disorder that requires costly infusions. im happy that i have insurance

>>82362199
When you're fucking relatives or older spouses, you are taking a gamble with your baby. We're talking about babies that end up retarded or have cardiac issues, not "this baby has a fine forehead" nazi examination you twit.

>>82362690
Why do Democrats hate being responsible so much?

>>82362693
you should be castrated

>>82362764
We were responsible for Clinton's economical spike though. We literally invented the internet.

No thanks necessary.

>>82362764
Yeah, helping someone out is just more of that evil gommunism again. It's better to see people dying to death than lending them a hand.

>>82362838
The economy doesn't work that fast, retard. Clinton presided over the economy when the effects of Reagan's policies were in. Clinton was responsible for the economic crash that followed, retard. Remember his "everyone should be able to own a home" shit? And how when all those balloon mortgages started to mature people started defaulting and the whole damn economy went to shit?

Fuck me, it's not enough that you idiots are ignorant, but you're aggressively ignorant and proud of your misconceptions.

>>82362800
its only about a 10% chance of passing it on to my kids but i am choosing not to have kids anyways

>>82362658
Yeah, you got me there:

http://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/luis-lang-discovers-gofundmes-much-worse-than-obamacare/

>>82362864
Except according to Pew, Republicans donate far more to charity than Democrats. Democrats help no one, they literally feel that just by voting Democrat that they've done their charity.

>>82362920
In a free world "people" with birth defects would be killed. Hitler did the right thing killing the mentally ill and other genetic enemies of the german people.

>>82362920
doesn't matter if it's even 0% because science can be wrong and is often untrustworthy

and your opinions barely matter, it's how it should be

>>82361509
Then leave.

>>82362974
they didnt know i had it until i was 16

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>liberals all of a sudden care about dead babies

Made me think

>>82362898
Ah yes, the fabled trickle down economics, truly a wellspring of growth

>>82363027
/pol/ loves abortion as long as it's used to kill nonwhites.

>>82362987
>Science can be a... LIAR sometimes

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>>82362898
Increase spending, cut taxes, economy go BOOM BOOM! You can't explain that!

>>82363039
Solid counter-argument. Like all liberals, you've really impressed me with your knowledge of the facts.

>>82361429
It is to me you leach. If you can't afford kids don't have them.

>>82363087
>UR A LIBRUAL
Not an argument

>>82362974
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the Pro-Life Party™.

>>82363083
>rampant consumerism that followed Reaganism spending and tax cuts
>economy explodes in the following years while Democrats are in charge
>bad policymaking under the Democrats comes to fruition in the years following with Bush in charge
>anyone with a highschool education in economics can follow this
>literally no Democrat has ever pieced it together though
Really activates my almonds.

>>82362368
Yeah, I'll bet you would love to pay more bills to your big business overlords

The only thing you're good for is paying bills

>>82361367
it's more economical.
Insurance is a scam, the hospitals charge the insurance companies far more than the procedure would cost you outright because they know they'll pay it.
Sometime your insurer will pay 3 times what the treatment would cost.
If you have health insurance you're paying for this bullshit.
Health care bypasses this inefficiency by charging what the procedure actually costs to the tax payer.

>>82363114
repealing glass steagall caused the great recession

>>82363087
>knowledge of the facts
To be fair, you didn't provide any fact in your posts either. It was mostly just ad-hominem: the post.

>>82363114
Nor is your "lolreaganomics". If you have an actual counterpoint, I'm waiting. Otherwise, it's just memes responding to memes.

anyone who can't afford health care should be left to die, no excuse for having so little money. Try saving some money or getting a second job. lazy fucking idiots in this country. Also why should an insurance company be forced to cover someone with pre existing conditions that they know will lose the insurance company money to treat. Fucking stupid leftists want everything on a silver platter

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>>82360886
>fucking grandmas and expecting healthy newborns.

>>82363132
>espouses libertarian and socialist views
>"lol he's a republican"
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the Politically Ignorant™.

>>82363139
>you're just a sheep for those corporate fat cats man!

>>82363191
>Hitler was a socialist
Jump into an oven, kike.

>>82363170
Insurance for a pre-existing condition isn't insurance it's just health care.
Base healthcare is for the poorfags who can't afford shit, the tax payers pay for them to be shoved into a shared hospital room and have to wait for surgery.

Insurance is for people with money, they get actual good treatment.

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>>82363138
>rampant consumerism that followed Reaganism spending and tax cuts

You mean that recession that cost Bush the '92 election? Thanks for the economics lesson! ;)

>>82363170
I want to say this is a false flag but I really can't tell anymore these days

>>82362441
It's going to pass the house tomorrow.

It's not an exaggeration to say millions will be faced with the choice of whether to die, or have their loved ones die, or go into enormous, life-wrecking debt. We will basically go back to the shitshow that existed before Obamacare when insurance companies chose how much they wanted to pay.

All so that the top 2% can get a sweet tax cut. No one in this country gives a fuck about anything except money. This whole conversation is being framed around money, costs of coverage and such, instead of how we can best save lives and improve the health of the country as a whole.

>>82363159
Except he did. Clinton's role in the housing crisis is a documented fact. The changes his administration made to the CRA meant that minimum wage people with virtually no credit were taking out hundreds of thousands in housing loans with no ability or forecasted ability to pay them back.

It's why Clinton had such high approval ratings. Suddenly everyone became a homeowner under him. And it's not like he'd still be president when the balloon mortgages became due, that was the next president's problem.

>>82363258
yeah man they should seize the means of production and shit

>>82362626
It was 2009 and people were going bankrupt in droves as a result of insurance policy.

You were probably too young to remember, but health care in American was destroying a lot of lives by putting people into bankruptcy so that their kid could have a fighting chance against leukemia or something similar.

>>82363233
>Nazi literally means "National Socialist"
>regime implemented hundreds of social programs, pioneering ones socialists use today
>"y-yeah but he hated jews so he wasn't a socialist :^DD"
Literally kys you historically illiterate faggot.

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>>82363191
>Be Hitler
>Hate "Marxists" with a passion
>Get supported by German industrialists, who make out handsomely during Hitler's reign
>Shut down labor unions
>Persecute anyone other than white, straight Christians

Wow, ya sure got me. Sounds like a flaming liberal lefty, right there. Mm hmm.

>>82362974
I'm sure you would be the first to suggest that we terminate your child if it was discovered to have birth defects, right?

I'm starting to regret my Trump vote. I didn't actually think they would accomplish a repeal of the ACA.

I have like half-dozen pre-existing conditions and I'm poor as shit. I'm currently on Medicaid, but I expect to enter the workforce in a couple of years. Won't they reject me once I start applying for health plans?

Is that really what America is about?

And the worst thing about this affair -- it's not even cheaper than the ACA, it's actually going to contribute more to the national debt.

Republicans are putting in a worse law for purely ideological reasons as far as I can tell. What happened to fiscal conservatism?

>>82363238
The recession that was already underway and that Reaganomics fixed? It's a lucky thing Clinton got in office and got to take credit for the booming economy, as though him just being president magically fixed everything. Naturally, Democrats actually believed that.

So, what's your big gripe with the Gipper anyhow? Was it when he made welfare recipients work for the government to get their welfare checks? I can imagine how that must've triggered you. Why even get welfare if you have to work for it!

>>82363170
Nice troll, but having two jobs doesn't mean you'll have affordable health care. That's basically the problem. People are working more than ever and can't afraid to slip up. One false move and they end up with a mountain of debt. Shit, if the GOP get their way and nullify preexisting conditions, then you won't even have to fuck up to be screwed over by an insurance company.

>>82363363
>Nazi literally means "National Socialist"

Let me guess...I'll bet you think the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is actually a republic and democratic, eh?

>>82363365
socialist doesn't mean what you think it means

>>82363363
Hitler killed all the marxist socialists.

>>82363365
>"lefties can't be authoritarians"
lmao
>"socialists and communists are the same thing and have to love one another"
lmao
>literally no documented persecution of Hindus, Muslims, Taoists, Buddhists, atheists, Shinto, or any other established religion except the one that had literally attempted to seize control of Germany right as he came into power - "jews are the only non-christians!"
lmao

>>82363546
>Hitler was a dirty leftist
Wrong again kiddo

>>82362034
Or you just abort them when you find out they'll have some sort of crippling defect, you retard.

>>82363391
should've thought about that before you got sick

>>82363491
Socialism seems to mean whatever people want it to mean.

In Hitler's case, the Nazi party was named before he came along (he didn't found the party, he joined it as a government spy). What he found was a party with barely any cohesion or discipline and made it his own. Hitler's own definition of "socialism" seemed to mean the concept of unifying all the German people under the aegis of nationalism, because it sure as fuck didn't mean "Marxist" of anything close to it. Read Mein Kampf if you really want to know what Hitler thought of communists and the far left.

>>82363473
So, you're contesting that Nazi Germany wasn't socialist? What part of him expending welfare seems anti-Socialist? Was it the extra funds put into public schooling including higher education? Do you suppose it was the government protection of working rights, abolishing all forms of child labor? Or the redistribution of profits from heavy labor to the citizenry?

Is this what cognitive dissonance feels like? You love socialism, but hate Nazis, and so you have to struggle to prove that somehow despite being the very picture of socialism that Nazis aren't?

>>82363645
>Marxism is socialism
Quit posting. You're embarrassing yourself and it's getting to be so bad that I actually feel embarrassed for you.

>>82363710
Only mothers would get welfare, it was only acceptable for mothers and children to not work. If you were a male of working age you were expected to get a job or be forced into military or a work labour program.

>>82363258
Everyone gets the tax cut because you're not being mandated to pay for Steven Assanti's daily 100 pain pills and 50 lbs of food anymore.

People have their own shitty problems without having to pay for all of yours.

>>82363795
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_People%27s_Welfare

Educate yourself.

>>82362441
Yeah, because the NHS is such a great system that never lets anyone down ever, right?

Also, the replacement plan is better for almost everyone that isn't the extreme 5% of people that need every bit of medical care on the planet, because now you don't have to take it up the ass with higher premiums to cover everyone that isn't you.

>>82363380
>>82363380
>don't have try have children at the age of 40
>don't try to conceive a child with anyone over 40
>avoid cousin fucking
>consider Rh Incompatibility (there's medicine for this)
>avoid having a rockstar diet while pregnant
>don't pass a hereditary genetic problem
Seems easy enough.

>>82363743
Awww, that's sweet. Your concern is appreciated! To think I came *this* close to losing sleep tonight over it.

>>82363318
Well maybe their children should stop contracting life threatening diseases that cost gazillions of dollars to combat.

>>82363833
Hitler would have killed the NEETs of this website or would have enlisted them in the military.

>>82363039
That's literally what it is though.

>>82363932
I think everyone would be ok with that.

>>82363132
If a child has down syndrome or some other defect that makes them a parasite it's morally just to have them euthanized. These things are not truly human.