>*clears throat* Hey Anon, I've got some advice for you

I don't understand what you're trying to say. He worked for everything he has. Good for him

>>82327665
Nah I'll just live off of autism bucks for the rest of my life with my parents until they die or society collapses.

My dad is a welder and retiring next year at 58 and moving to Hawaii

>>82327665
>grew up blue collar
>worked all types of blue collar jobs
>got a TV show where he does all types of jobs, typically hard, unappreciated, unnoticed and necessary jobs in society
>it all pays off in the end and he promotes hard work ethic

BUT IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR. I READ DAS KAPITAL, I KNOW HOW TO FIX THE WORLD'S PROBLEMS AND IT DOESN'T START WITH ME GETTING A JOB!

>>82327840
>worked all types of blue collar jobs
Yeah. On the TV show. He hasn't had a job outside the entertainment industry since he was 22. He has a degree in communications and was an opera singer at one point.
Grew up blue collar, yeah. But that's it.

>>82327840
Go back to r/The_Donald

why do people think being an actor is easy

>>82327665
Exactly how much do you think Discovery channel pays???

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Don't fall for the blue collar meme, I did and its fucking miserable. It doesn't get any better either, like I thought it would throughout my entire apprenticeship.

I wish I would have went to school for something, and I'm planning on doing so in the future.

>most actors are insanely self-absorbed and throw a fit over nothing but a guy who goes balls deep into literal shit to glorify the hard work of nobodies is a bad guy
k

http://ijr.com/2014/08/170671-mike-rowe-live-mansion/

Oh look, he lives in a normal apartment.

>>82328288
>Mike Rowe has earned a spot on our list of the RICHEST CELEBRITIES! Widely known for his work as television host and narrator of “Dirty Jobs,” Mike is one of the richest celebrity television personalities. Mike's net worth is an estimated $45 million, and he earns a $10 million annual accumulated salary.

>>82328188
Because it is piss easy.

Source: Have worked in the industry for over 15 years.

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>>82328407
>Source: Have worked in the industry for over 15 years.

>>82328681

No interest in risking my career for some anon.

Don't believe it's easy? Sign up for an acting workshop (or class if you're still in school).

Now imagine having everything you want at your fingertips while you work MAYBE four hours a day, while the crew you look down on works 12-15 on a good day.
Craft services rules though.

>>82327665
>dat #7

Is he asking people to become literal wage cucks?

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>>82327665
Is that a pledge for ants?

>>82327665
ITT: Envy and Entitlement.

>>82328811
Yep, he's advocating wagecuckery.

>>82327665
This is pretty cringy. Blue collar jobs are shitty. I don't know why anybody's complaining about their disappearance. If illegal Mexicans who don't speak English can easily do most blue collar jobs for a fraction of the pay, then maybe they're not all that fucking valuable.

>>82327665
The thing that pisses me off the most about that picture is that fucking smug look on his face.

>>82328841
Back to the retirementment home boomershit.

>>82327665

I'm I the only one noticing that Mike rowe seems to be the new target of the left?

Trying to take the heat off of Nye

>>82328759
Go to bed Shia

>>82327665
he used to be a fucking opera singer

>>82328921
>I don't know why anybody's complaining about their disappearance.

Because they'd like to put food on the table, I imagine.

>>82327665
who hates Mike Rowe honestly

>>82329004
Anyone who's actually worked a blue collar job. It's shitty, but you do it so you have food.

>>82328999
I mean, I get why people who worked those jobs are complaining. But I don't see why anybody else would be. I don't get why Americans and especially American politicians feel this affinity for replaceable blue collar workers. For most people, the decline/offshoring of blue collar jobs just means lower prices.

>>82328830
>multi-millionaire actor living in a mansion telling poor wage-slaves to be happy that they have the opportunity to get shit on and work overtime with no pay

Also,
>I understand that the world is not fair
>I believe that all people are created equal
lol

>>82328934
>Literally the only thing anyone can say against Rowe is that he's rich
Yes, that's envy, you mong.

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>>82328830
>#1
>implying you could be anybody other than who you are now
Brainlets, when will they learn?

>>82329028
Because they're still an influential voting block.

>>82329028
>Why should I care about my own countrymen when replacing them with foreigners gets ME cheaper goods
You are the sickness in this country.

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>>82327665
keep in mind, he is /our guy/ though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDBM8lwVmQo

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>>82329051
The problem is he pretends to care about the working-class while at the same time telling them that they should have a slave mentality in relation to their superior employers. I guarantee you he shits on labor unions despite those being one of the best ways for blue-collar workers to improve their lives.

>>82328830
>I believe the most annoying sounds are whining and complaining

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WN7D-iTOvTQ

>>82329051
Nah, I got nothing against rich people. I find some millionaire larping about being one of the "workers" extremely arrogant and disrespectful to those who have to deal with working 12 hours days for little pay comparative to those who produce nothing useful for millions of dollars.

>>82329076
It's better for the economy. What do you want me to do? I have no sympathy for the working class that refused to adapt to an obviously changing world.

>>82329114
>shits on labor unions despite those being one of the best ways for blue-collar workers to improve their lives.
Nobody's life gets improved if the factory closes or the high level of unionization stops companies from moving in.

And the only rational response to this point is, "Well EVERYBODY should be unionized!" which just makes it an even bigger racket.

>>82329114
>if your jealous
>your
>jealous

IF YOU'RE ENVIOUS. Fucking illiterate union scum

>People complaining about Mike Rowe like he's a fraud like Bruce Springsteen
He may be rich, but the difference is, he hasn't let that money go to his head. I think Mike actually prefers a simple life to a rich life, which is why he doesn't seem to be your typical celebrity.

>>82329161
Yes, the world is just "changing" by some impersonal force. It isn't politicians purposefully flooding the country with low-skilled foreign workers. Not at all.

>>82329146
Are you too autistic to realize that video is older than you probably are and that people change their minds about things? I'm willing to bet Mike would slap the shit out that version of himself if he could go back in time.

>>82329226
Mike Rowe is infinitely more of a fraud than Springsteen.

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>>82328830
>I believe that I have won the greatest lottery of all time. I live in America

>>82329161
No, retard. Cheaper prices in exchange for causing part of your consumer population to enter unemployment is NOT "good for the economy", because one way or another, those unemployed workers are getting paid (government benefits or if you cancel those, crime), so now the economy is paying the old workers AND your new "cheap" workers who have even lower productivity than the "low skill" natives due to language barriers and such.

The reason you people are cancer is because you think you understand economics when you've really just been fed a bunch of PC bullshit.

>>82329266
Yes, it actually is, and those impersonal forces are globalization and improving technology.

>>82329298
What he just said is called "Globalization" in your PC happy-talk.

>>82329203
You do realize that if you are in a blue collar or service sector job, it's in your best interest to unionize. Stop sucking your bosses dick.

>>82329288
What support do you have for that? I mean, obviously at the limits you'd be right, but there's universal agreement among economists that trade agreements like NAFTA (that cause unemployment and decrease prices) are good for the economy.

The only cancer here is you because you've managed to convince yourself you know the truth and that everybody else is an idiot, when, in fact, you're the idiot.

>>82329271
This is a completely false statement. Mike Rowe doesn't act like he represents the blue collar worker then show up in a fucking limo.

>>82329341
>Everybody should be in a union!
No, fuck you. Why would anyone want to give up part of their paycheck just so they can risk their company packing up and leaving to avoid the union?

And protip: anti-retaliation laws don't mean shit. There are people who fight their boss, and there are people who advance in their jobs.

>>82329322
Is everything you don't agree with now "PC"? Globalization isn't low-wage workers coming into the country. It's the emergence of ever more efficient multinational corporations, a process that's been sped up by technological change.

>>82328759
>>82328407
Property master here what is your job title and local?

>>82328951
>take the heat off of Nye
Both of them are actors. Most of my left leaning friends say they're pointing out the hypocrisy of criticizing Nye and ignoring Rowe.

>>82329270
>he actually believes Mike Rowe practices what he preaches!

>America should export all its jobs, from the toilet cleaning to the Mechican to the number cruncher at wall street to the Indian, over sea. What could go wrong?

>>82329419
Globalization means lobbying for dissolving the borders to ease movement of people and goods.
That's part of the "efficiency" you reference, if you'd learn what you're talking about.

>>82329417
>just spread your cheeks for that promotion, bud

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>>82329275
yeah same, stopped reading right there

>>82329448
We'll get cheaper plastic shit from China so everything will be okay, right? Fuck working people (unless they are foreigners, in which case we'll help them).

>>82329341
It's in everyone's best interest for there to be employees in and not in unions. It allows more genuine bargaining. You get disastrous situations with unions that have too much bargaining power.

>>82328830
>I understand that the world is not fair and I'm okay with it
So this is what the good goy pledge looks like

>>82329244
But he said something about them queers that I don't like, that means everything he has ever said or done is commie propaganda.

>>82328275

what state do you live in and what profession? plumbers and electricians make 80k around here (new england)

>>82329360
Protip: those NAFTA loving economists are speaking about a GLOBAL economy due to the fact that those companies which are being helped (at the expense of workers) are GLOBAL companies.

Unless you're advocating complete abandonment of the reason for government's existence, economic policy should help the COUNTRY, not "the world at the expense of the country"

>>82329360
> economist
literally the same level as sociology in terms of hard science

Their metrics for judging what is good and bad for the economy, besides being horrendously informed by their won personal politics, are bogus.

>>82329446
You're acting almost like shareblue does. Bringing up ancient videos, trying to make someone look like a hypocrite while failing to realize human beings are capable of change and do change.

Also, if you believed every suspicion posted on 4chan, you'd never be able to trust anyone ever again.

>>82329474
If you don't like the game, don't play. The necessities of economics aren't going to change for YOU, snowflake, and every leftist strategy to "fix" economic reality just backfires.

>>82329531
Economics is not a science field, you moron. It's mathematics.

>>82327665
>>82328830
>wageslaveindoctrinator.jpg

>>82329417
>implying even non-unionized minimum-wage American workers can compete with literal slave labor

http://www.kvoa.com/story/35247392/sierra-vista-woman-finds-note-from-chinese-prisoner-in-walmart-purse

Don't be retarded.

fyi this anti mike rowe shilling is happening on multiple boards right now. it must be the contingency plan since colbert is in hot water.

>>82329559
>snowflake
Don't you have some epic memes to post on facebook or something

>>82329448
I'll explain to you what's going to happen if you don't export those jobs. Currently American corporations export those jobs and bring profits back to the US. Eventually, they'll just reincorporate in other countries (like, say, Ireland) and then not only will you not have any jobs, but you'll be missing a sizeable chunk of your tax base.

>>82329557
>Also, if you believed every suspicion posted on 4chan, you'd never be able to trust anyone ever again.

But I don't trust anyone.

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>finish trade school
>zero student debt
>60k starting
>fast growing industry
why is college still even a thing?

>>82329565
Yeah, this is why tariffs are important and free trade is retarded.

American workers should not have to compete with people who have no standard of living.

Oh. But wait.
That's Trump-ism, and therefore Satan, regardless of how sensible it is.

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*yawns and stretches*

Ahhh. How relaxing...oh, hello there little wagie, I didn't see you there! Have you enjoyed your little one-day holiday free from labor? Well, I sure hope you did. Your free days are over now. Better get to bed soon! You know what they say: another day, another dollar.

And me? Oh, I'm just collecting my neetbux. My savings is over 55k now, I sleep in most of the day, and I don't have to worry about traffic, overtime, or wait for Friday to enjoy myself :^)

Work reaaaaally hard for me this week, okay? I've got checks to collect! Tick tock, wagecuck!

>>82328141
Go back to leftypol

>>82329595
>Get btfo
>Get mad and try to change the subject
The leftists cycle

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>>82329524
In fact, they're not speaking about a global economy. Have you ever taken an economics class?

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>>82329644

>>82327717
This. OP is a faggot.

>>82329583
Whether that's true or not doesn't change the fact that Mike Rowe is an asshole like those others. I don't like any of them.

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>>82329631
>finish trade school
>zero student debt
>30k starting
>dying industry
>no work in the winter
>surrounded by morons
>despise everyday

>>82329631
Put kids in debt and have marxist professors brainwash them. Typical tricks.

>>82329531
Explain to me who's better at explaining economic problems than economists. It's not perfect, but at least they've studied the problems for decades.

>>82329662
>This specific survey didn't involve global economics
>Therefore free trade doesn't relate to globalization
Imagine being this dumb.

>>82329682
Become a certification monkey.
Just get certified in as much garbage as you can and you're pretty much never out of work.
I do trade work and I do CAD monkey shit on off seasons.

>>82329682
not an argument and not based in reality

>>82329704
Explain to me who's better at explaining a mortgage backed security than Fannie Mae?

They're not perfect, but at least they've been working with the things for decades.

>>82329716
Free trade obviously relates to globalization. You said that NAFTA doesn't improve local economies, while this survey suggests the opposite. Free trade improves both local and global economies--my basic point. I can't even imagine how you make it through the day solely on delusions that you've invented to conform to your worldview.

>>82329114
How do you know he doesn't care about the working class? Because he has a lot of money? Great logic

>>82329600
>Currently American corporations export those jobs and bring profits back to the US.

Nope.

Do people even know how hard it is to get their profit out of new market?
I working for a NGO what has dealing with some Chinese local university, and it was near fucking impossible for us to get pay as the Chinese government is actively preventing people moving money of the country (legit or not legit business)

Mots big company just spend that profit locally (not in the US).

>>82329767
>Factories close down
>Local businesses close down
>Lose trade job to illegal Mexicans
>Train for a more advanced job
>Lose new job to H-1B Indians
>At least I can work at WalMart
>Hey my phone ended up being a bit cheaper

You're right, free trade is great.

>>82329762
Nice deflection. In fact, I suspect that Fannie Mae was better at explaining mortgage-backed securities than almost anybody else in the world. Sure, they were wrong about the market, but like you say, it's not an exact science. If I had to trust Fannie Mae or someone else to make an investment, I'd still go with Fannie Mae.

>>82329767
Its very simple: the argument that "this will see a net boost in productivity in the long run" is a nebulous argument for a LONG TERM benefit which causes massive short term suffering.

Responsible government demands courses of action that don't fuck over the population in the present based on a HOPE (even if it has fucking "consensus")

I can't even imagine how psychotic you have to be to think this shit is viable policy.

>>82329773
Because he puts out bullshit like that "pledge," specifically points #7 and #8. That whole thing is "how to be a literal wage-cuck 101."

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Ways you mess with wagies
Personally I do pic related I shall tell the best moment of this.
>Go on bike from apartment, and go straight to the Crowded street in the mornings.
>Then proceed to hook up a speaker to my phone and blast static.
>Have ear muffs on
>30 mins later I get given the m finger and sometimes thrown stuff at
>going like 5 in a 30

>>82329873
>>>/n/

>>82329841
>I suspect that Fannie Mae was better at explaining mortgage-backed securities than almost anybody else in the world.
You're saying exactly my point. The ability to explain something extremely well and convince unskeptical idiots like yourself has no bearing on one's actual competence.

Please apply this principle to economists and all other experts who you treat like a priesthood.

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>>82329873

>>82329843
It causes massive short term suffering to a select population. That's life. Sucks for them. In fact, there are immediate benefits to consumers from free trade through lower prices.

>>82329838
That was all going to happen anyways, regardless of what government does. And there are only like 80K H-1B visas granted per year, and expire every 6 years. It's like .4% of the workforce. It's a nice talking point, but not that much of an impact except for some select industries.

>>82327665
Before he got on TV he was an actual grunt working for wages.

And there is literally nothing wrong with doing honest work for an honest wage. Only Anitfa and Occupy faggots use the term "wage slavery".

>>82327767
I live in Hawaii. It sucks. Too much traffic. Tell your dad to move somewhere more Red.

>>82329928
>That's life. Sucks for them.
This is not how governments are meant to operate.

Oh, wait. That's right. You faggots got voted out based on that exact fact.

That's life. Sucks for you.

>>82329928
>It causes massive short term suffering to a select population. That's life. Sucks for them.

Keep up this line of thought and you'll understand why you lost the election.

>>82329583
You're retarded. It has nothing to do with Colbert. The people criticizing Nye are causing this, and it won't stop until they do.
>>82329631
Because trade schools don't teach doctors and physicists. I'm a machinist myself. You can't seriously not see the importance of universities.

>>82329905
Give me a break. Your alternative seems to be to go with gut instinct on incredibly complex issues.

>>82329660
>Projecting this hard

>>82329975
>>82329969
>hurr durr you lost the election

I don't even vote. I think the Democrats had a policy that's more in line with reality, but it sounds bad and people don't want to hear it.

>>82329969
Governments are supposed to do what's good for the country in the long term, despite short-term impacts on specific populations.

>>82330024
You do know people can just click the linked post and see, right?

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>>82329114
Unions would be fine if they were voluntary

But they almost never are. I can't think of one. You have to be in the union if you want this job. You have to pay dues. You have to let someone else bargain for you.

It violates freedom of association, therefore, unions are immoral and a threat to freedom. That's real talk.

>>82329940
Nope, he was an opera singer who came from a well off family.

>>82329940
>believing the meme
I don't know when he was an 'actual grunt,' assuming he graduated from high school at 18 and college at 22. He became an opera singer at 22. He's been on TV or narrating ever since.

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>>82330053
>I think the Democrats had a policy that's more in line with reality,

>legalize tens of million of illegals will surely make America better and not sink it into a Latin shit hole nation.

>>82330077
The shop I'm in now is like 3/4ths union.
It happens. Seems pretty common around here, but I don't know how that pans out nationally.

>>82330057
>Implying that I'm samefagging
>doesn't realize that people can agree on things
lol

>>82329562
This is post of the year and every one is ignoring it. Wow.

>>82330004
Protip: when you're talking about a large economy, which has complexity enough to rival the human brain, a human brain is not going to be able to grasp the whole thing anyway. Its beyond the cognitive limit.

This is why "experts" in some fields are so unreliable compared to other sciences (see also: sociology and psychology).

>>82330131
Obama deported record numbers of illegals and illegal immigration leveled off. I suppose he started DREAM and DACA, but you'll note Trump isn't getting rid of those.

>>82330185
So what's your alternative? Because it's hard to understand, we shouldn't study it at all?

>>82329562
>>82330156
if economics as espoused by economists was mathematical, there would not be "schools of thought" with gaping disagreements.

>>82330212
>but you'll note Trump isn't getting rid of those.

Yes, and it is still better than the other alternative at the time (Hillary and the Democratic party) who were literally almost out-right stating they will legalize them if elected.

>>82329993
>You can't seriously not see the importance of universities.
Colleges are important and there are plenty of fields that require college degrees. However, in the 90s it became expected that people should "go to college."

There are dozens, if not hundreds or thousands, of jobs that shouldn't require a degree. There are degrees that exist that shouldn't.

People think they have to go to college now to get a "good job" and it's not true.

Employers who are looking for office workers, like typists and secretaries, etc, should not require degrees. Accounting firms should only require 2 year associate's degrees.

Gender studies, and the things like it, are useless except in academia. There is not a future in it except for a very small minority of people who are brilliant. A philosophy degree will get like 1% of people employed as authors and will get the other 99% a shit ton of debt.

This is coming from someone who get a fucking expensive degree in communications and now makes $80k a year not using the degree.

>>82330239
Macroeconomics is not, it's more like sociology """""science"""""

>>82330261

I just graduated with a degree in communications. I wanted to be a sports journalist, or a teacher, or fuck if I know. What do you do now? I'm a year out of college and have no idea what to do because my major didn't prepare me for a fucking thing, and I'm too scared and confused to try some random shit

>>82330232
Its not a matter of not studying, but right now, there's a massive "I fucking love science!" portion of the population which has become obsessed with treating soft sciences as hard science, when there needs to be a grain of salt taken.

See: any time someone has argued a feminist or social justice position as being "proven by science".

In this conversation, the relevant point is trying to shut down arguments about short-term harm of free trade based on "assurances" that it will have long-term benefits.
Fuck the assurances of soft scientists. Their word is not worth enough to cause concrete harm over.

>>82330261
post your last pay stub

>>82330258
I take your point that Clinton was for citizenship. But I don't think deporting 15M is feasible politically or otherwise, and I don't think that Trump will do it. Trump will just have a highly public crackdown like he's having now that won't actually have any significant impact on the total number.

I don't know enough to say whether legalizing illegals is a good idea or not, but the choice is probably between 15M illegals working in the shadow economy or 15M citizens.

>>82330330
So, you don't have an alternative.

There aren't just assurances. Free trade has had measurable short-term benefits.

>>82330261
Ah. I dig. I 100% agree on that. I tried to get a job at a place that installs fire suppression systems. I was a firefighter for 3 years, but they wouldn't take me because I didn't have a bachelor's. Not anything specific. Just fucking anything.

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>>82330310
Communications is good for someone who doesn't know what they want to do. Lots of different industries you can put yourself in

>>82328054
kys

>>82330423
I do have an alternative. Tarrifs and deportations.

To the question, "Which experts should we surrender our political decision-making to", I say, "N/A".

>>82330484
I'm not saying we should surrender decisionmaking to experts, but we should certainly take them into account.

I think your alternative (at least in terms of tariffs and protectionism) will harm the USA in the short and long run. You might save some jobs in the short term, but they'll be gone eventually, meanwhile cost of goods will keep going up for everyone else. I suppose I could see how that's a tradeoff someone would accept, but I don't care for it.

>>82330467
All of those jobs are either horrible or require actual programming skills that "communication" person wouldn't have

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Are there seriously people who're just fine with bending over and taking their bosses dick in their ass?

>>82330467
>reddit
>mobile posting
>letting your phone get that low

kys cuck

>>82330672
You didn't spot the .ca did you

>>82330604
You didn't sign the pledge? Make sure to do work as hard as you possibly can, your boss has a new car to buy after all.

>>82330604
As long as it makes the liberal special snowflakes mad, they're fine with getting fucked in the ass.

I miss being able to afford a low rent 2 bedroom off of one entry level job's full time salary. When my wife and I started out we both had to work full time to pay our rent, bills, and save up to start schooling. I don't have a dog in this stupid fight. Good for Mike Rowe for making it I guess. Actors are overpaid LARPers. Promoting good work ethic is nice and all but the rich should stfu about it. That's all. Good night.

>>82330706
Why do you think I called him a cuck?

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>>82330470
>getting mad at facts

>>82330310
I work below the line in Hollywood on film and tv doing art related thing. It sounds superficially related to a communications degree, and it's a cool ass job, but literally no one cares about my degree. In fact, in my first interviews to get in the door a production coordinator told me to not even bring it up, since people with communication/film degrees usually come off as know-it-alls and douchebags who think they should be directors instead of doing work.

>>82330363
No.

>>82330604
Hookers?

>2017
>Still falling for the college meme

I'd say that only 25% at most of current college students need to be in college. Most of them will never attribute anything to their field of study and would be much better off getting a form of certification or going to trade school.

t. Flight school student

>>82327665
>work 60-hour weeks

Fuck you

>>82331199
Compared to just a high school diploma they're still better off getting something from a college, but yeah a significant amount of people would probably be better off just getting some more specific job certification like for plumbing, truck driving, or to be an electrician or some shit

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>>82329244
>Developed devices for the Mars rover missions
Did he co-author the theory of relativity as well?

In secret they conspire to make the goys willing slaves again
Their old tricks refurbished and presented anew
We have nothing to lose, they everything to gain
Let their machination go askew

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Ex-Boiler maker here.

The idea you can "Work hard and get rich" is pretty much a myth. Making a big break basically requires Nepotism or Luck.

The vast majority of Blue Collar workers do extremely hard, back breaking labour, for long hours, and earn maybe around the same amount as a low level office worker.

I remember looking over the fence during work and watching like office workers go get a coffee and shit and be able to sit in air conditioned/heated offices while I'm stuck surrounded by fucking meathead assholes doing 12-14 hours a day completely open to the elements and those office workers, likely, were earning more than me.

Oh also try take a 5 minute break? Sit down after carrying a 100kg load up several flights of stairs in 40C temprature and the foreman sees you? Say hello to a written warning.

Blue Collar work fucking sucks dick, most people in the trades are fucking high school drop out machismo idiots who only care about sport and the pay sucks.
Oh and it's incredibly dangerous and you're basically guaranteed to have severe health problems by 40.

The only thing Trades does have over office work is the work itself is more interesting in the trades, it can actually be fun at times, where office work is literal tedium.

>>82331396
>We have nothing to lose, they everything to gain

So what are you suggesting?

>>82331511
I think it really depend on the location.

Over here, (not US), skilled labor is in demand. one month on a construction you will make twice or three time more than the average office worker which is around 1000 USD.

If anything, it is the low to mid level office workers are getting squeezed these day for not seeing any raises in salary.

>>82330604
4chan is filled with young people who haven't really experienced what the real world is like and thus they build their entire political views on "triggering liberals/the left" even if that means fostering a shitty fucking culture that will fuck them in the ass when they properly enter the workforce.

Though, /pol/'s brainwashing is probably so intense that these idiots would defend their own bosses engaging in wage theft against them (which pretty much does happen in most low level jobs)

>>82329940
And the "free" market determines what is honest work and what is a honest wage for that work.
Hmm...

>>82331584
Storm, earth and fire concoct me a brew
Unyielding and unrelenting, the revolution comes for you

>>82331635
You can make a lot of money in the trades, but what people don't see is the hours.

Most tradies will start work about 5-6am and will work to often 5-6pm, hell often I would leave work at 7pm.

You get half an hour break.

You also will generally work a "half day" on Saturday, so you work from 5-to usually 1 or 2.

So yeah, you're going to be pulling money, but most of that money comes from long hours/overtime. The average payrate for the trades is only $40,000 even in the US though this may not take into account overtime which is where money is actually made.

>>82331511
>I remember looking over the fence during work and watching like office workers go get a coffee and shit and be able to sit in air conditioned/heated offices while I'm stuck surrounded by fucking meathead assholes doing 12-14 hours a day completely open to the elements and those office workers, likely, were earning more than me.
Haha, I do workhouse shit and I started out loading trucks. Can remember seeing through the chainlink fence to the carpark at the 150kg landwhale cunts chainsmoking on their 5th fag break no doubt making more than me.

>allow your labor to be exploited and don't cause a fuss

What did he mean by this?

>>82329244
>a netflix show discussing science

>a netflix show normalizing mental illness

>>82331704
What kind of revolution, comrade?

dad fell for this meme and im a blue collar worker now while both of my sisters who did worse than me in school are living at out of state colleges with their bf's. if you can help it try as hard as you can to stay the fuck away from this.

>>82331873
He meant that goyim are like cattle and can be used and abused at the whim of their masters. It's his job to condition these creatures to accept the slaughter they are fated for.

>>82331915
It's time to exit society. No marriage, no relationships no kids, no consumption of products and services, work to have what you need and live out your years on this planet spreading the message.

>>82331826
I work in an office now (girder crushed my left arm and now I have literally no strength in it and can barely move my fingers on my left hand, just enough to type and play vidya thank fucking god, also no workers comp payout stingy fuckers).

I actually like the work less, office work is literally sleep inducing and I find myself struggling to stay awake most days, but the atmosphere and people you work with and flexibility make up for it 100 fold. We also get a 15 minute break every hour for get this, occupational health and safety reasons, so we don't get back and hand cramps from sitting on our asses on a computer.

Oh also Flex time, flex time is the greatest shit ever.

Even if I didn't have this injury I would never go back to the trades. The work environment in the trades is toxic as fuck.

>>82331962
What message is that?

"The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race"?

>>82327665
I actually agree with you. You'd HAVE to be out of touch to not realize that the working poor in America work hard even without some bullshit "man up and take a shit sandwich, eat it and smile" pledge.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with asking for more, and if he's ever once negotiated a contract he's a hypocrite. If he's ever taken a vacation, he's a hypocrite. Especially if it's out of the country, which I and millions of others will never be able to afford.

>>82328921
Language has nothing to do. They were already plumbers, electricians, etc. in México. That said, fuck mexicans that betray our land by becoming slaves in the first world instead of fighting for rights in their homelands. Fuck them because they are illegals in the US or miserable tamed wagecucks in Mx.

>>82329562
>t. autistic libertarian

>>82331994
The message, tavarish, is that "those" in power are using the natural mechanism of life to increase their already immeasurable wealth, just like one would produce energy from a river.
Since we are the spirits residing in the river, it's time to let it go dry.

>>82332001
He was just on Tucker Carlson joking about vacations to Cabo. He's a fucking fraud and hypocrite who is against both the minimum wage and unions.

>>82329025
blue collar worker here. Def don't hate him cuz I'm not an emotional faggot. He seems genuine and has worked blue collar jobs his life including thru his fame. I don't see a problem.
>wah he has money

>>82328921
Fuck illegals, they were tamed wagecucks in México and preferred to be treated like scum in the US instead of fighting for good salaries. Fuck wageslaves, they ruin the world with their cowardice. Fuck that guy And hus droppy cocksucking jaw.

>>82331965
That's interesting. Honestly the thing I hate most about my job is the backstabbing and shittalking but I can only see that increasing tenfold in an office situation.
What I like is the variation in both stuff to do and people I work with. I meet all kinds of cunts even if a third of them are Indian.
As someone who has done a TON of terrible shitty jobs that I wouldn't wish on your dictator of choice I think as long as you are working somewhere that doesn't make you want to die then it could be a lot worse.

>>82332062
He's like the personification of the phrase "Man Up"
>Do what (((they))) want to protect your ego, or else you're not a real man!
Meanwhile an entire class of people have been marginalized due to their efforts to adhere to this way of life. Just ask any carpenter, contractor, mechanic, etc... They'll all bitch and piss and moan as long as you let them, but they'll not once consider doing anything else. They've all collectively agreed to do their shit jobs for admittedly evil companies until they die.

>>82332105
Forgot to add, I never worked in any sort of trade. Just labouring and other misc. blue collar shit.
Had a lot of customer-side experience with tradesmen who I wouldn't cross the road to save though. Christ most of them are okay but the bad few were fucking amazing.

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>all these sheep that barinlessly follow a capitalist symbol created to brainwash you into working your ass of for next to nothing with only the hope that if you push yourself hard enough your corporate masters won't turn around, fuck your asshole raw, then charge you for the privilege

Even worse than a race traitor is a class traitor.

>>82328830
Damn, this reads like something out of a Rockstar game

>Whats that? My generation sold off all the jobs to Mexico and China once we reached managerial level leaving the job market i shill so much dead and gutted? Just pound the pavement everyday ;)

>>82332048
Damn, pretty good shit. But how do we do that? How can we acquire enough resources from the system to fuck off from it and live a life away from wage slavery?

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>>82332173
Nice OC there comrade. Why is leftie propaganda always "adapted" from somewhere else?

>>82332256
Not a single humor bone in their body.

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>>82327665
If it were my decision, I'd never hire anybody that wasn't a misogynist piece of shit.

>>82329559
Psychopath.

>>82328275
>blue collar meme
What are you talking about? Noone thinks blue collar jobs are good.

>>82332256
Yeah, because all those primetime talkshow host memes and Tim & Eric ripoff shows are very original

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God intended for you to make your own business, remember that.
You should only ever work for another if it helps you gain the experience to eventually start your own business. This is where most post-graduation unemployment comes from. You have the knowledge to be the jew yourself, use it.

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>>82332338
>God
>existing
>pretending to know what she wants for you

>>82332287
where's penis inspector?

>>82332357
doesn't matter

>>82331781
That's the caveat about trades, you gotta be willing to work hard and you have to actually be good at what you do. If you are mediocre, you're not going to do well in the trades, but if you are truly good at what you do, the trades can open a lot of opportunities for you.

I had a professor who started his career (note that he graduated high school with a 1.7 GPA) as an aircraft mechanic working for a logging company. He had to live in a large tent on site in the mountains, working on the heavy lift helicopters that hauled lumber away from the site. It was hard work, bad living conditions, and he was away from home for weeks at a time.

He also made about $3500 a week after taxes. He was living in the mountains and the company fed him, so he had practically no living expenses. Officially, he was on duty for 120 hour shifts (his whole workweek was one shift because during his shift he was on call at all times, even though he only typically devoted 6 hours a day to actually working unless something really fucked up) so he made INSANE amounts of overtime bonuses because he was working literally days overtime. By the time he left that company to settle down with his wife, he already owned a 3 bedroom, 2 bathroom home in the countryside. After another decade of working in town, he had enough experience to apply as a college professor. He never got a college degree.

>>82332358
Penis inspection has been almost completely automated in most schools now.

>>82332338
> it's a protestant good goyim episode

>>82327717
Not as a thankless manual laborer. He was an opera singer, worked for QVC, and then got a job hosting Dirty Jobs.

>>82332389
>owning your own business
>not bad goy territory

>>82327665
Is Mike Rowe gay? He is a lifelong bachelor living in San Francisco.

>>82332387
fuck, i was born too early

>>82332358
The very top of the list

>>82332287

Driller of earth is a pretty good job title.

>>82332369
>he had enough experience to apply as a college professor. He never got a college degree.

What the fuck kind of shitty college did you go to where low-level lumber company mechanics can become professors without any professional degree to their name?

>>82332407
Hope you paid off them loans, goy.

>>82332454
>he doesn't realize all it takes is a domain name to run a business these days
>he actually thinks small businesses have to be brick and mortar shit

>>82332443
I think we can safely assume their are details of this person's life that the poster didn't include

>>82329114
>if your jealous
if my jealous?

>>82332003
Language definitely has a large impact in interactions with clients and stuff. I'm an immigrant to the USA myself (but from Europe), and I don't fault illegals for making it over here. They'll never get conditions as good as the USA in Mexico during their lifetimes.

>>82332443
I wonder if it was a for-profit technical institute thing.

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>>82332369
>After another decade of working in town, he had enough experience to apply as a college professor. He never got a college degree.

You meant community college right?

>Not saying community colleges are bad, I went to one for 2 years and transfer out. So I appreciate the way the US community colleges do thing for the community overall and to the young age students.

>>82332256
Nothing more satisfying than using someone's weapons against them.

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>>82329114
>your jealous
plebes are so cute when they start believing they deserve rights

>>82332527
I'm a legal immigrant myself from a latin hellscape and nothing angers me more than the leeches and the entitled pricks I escaped following me and breaking the laws of the land I love because they couldn't bother learning some marketable skills.

>being a wageslave
>ever

The only time it's acceptable is if it's to build capital to start a business, invest, or travel for a while

>>82332571
I do notice that other legal immigrants are understandably bothered by illegals. If I were in their spot, I'd do the same thing, though, so I don't feel I have room to criticize.

>>82332571
Sounds like your jealous, uncle Tom.

>>82329275
>t. hasn't lived elsewhere
Good luck getting a top tier aerospace job if you're not a burger

>>82332490
what's your great business idea that costs zero dollars do get off the ground?

>60-hour weeks

I know STEM-fags who work 100-hour weeks.

You ain't shit, Mike.

>>82332634
There are literally a million businesses you could start for under $5k

>landscaping
>moving business
>online retailer
>graphic designer
>cryptocurrency trader (ask /biz/)
>car detailer

Etc

>>82329360
Protip, retard: economists think corpos getting richer and bajillions of pajeets getting ever so slightly less poor is worth fucking you over completely.

>>82332604
not everybody can get those permanent neetbux, friendo

>>82332634
Consultation work is very easy if you have a decent base of experience.
Peddling shit using online distributors.
Graphic design and patreon/commission whoring.
Stocks/crypto

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>>82331511
>tfw you grew up watching your father break his body toiling away as a laborer the worst part is, though, I can't for the life of me remember exactly what it was he did - something steel-related
>tfw more often than not, he was away at work, so you never really got to see him
>tfw when he was home, he was too worn out to do much of anything,
>tfw no matter how much work he put it, we still managed to only scrape by
>tfw despite it all, he still clearly took pride in his work
What I remember most vividly of all, though is how adamant he was that I go to school so I didn't end up like him. The last thing my dad ever wanted was for me to waste away in a shop like him.

>>82329341
Everyone in your union is fucking done for the second your emplyers can afford to replace you. Nothing you can do to avert that, since if they don't replace you with robots, those who did will destroy them in the market.

This does not apply just to blue collar jobs, by the way, the vast majority of middle class white collar jobs will be replaced by computers too.

I'd rather shoot myself in the dick than ever work a trade

>>82332606
Why wouldn't they be?

>go through all the channels,patiently wait so you can be admitted

while

>I DESERVE TO LIVE IN AMERICA,I RAN ACROSS THE BORDER!

t-test

>>82332674
You missed the last part of my post, faggot

>>82332173
>We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions.

>b-but you're actually on the side of the international capitalists

>>82332670
Yeah, I'm the retard here. Americans save on goods, pajeets get less poor, and corporations make money. Like I said, certain segments get fucked over, sure. But that's life. They were going to get fucked over one way or another anyways. I don't have a personal dog in the fight here, but I don't see any reason why I should be sympathetic to the manufacturing worker who's bitching about losing his job when it's been obvious for decades that it would happen.

>>82332443
In the state of Califonia, vocational teachers do not require college degrees. Applicants are judged primarily on work experience.

>>82332722
Same

It's not even worth the decent money

>>82328921
>greedy businessmen want lax laws on immigrants to increase competition and lower the wage
>illegals come all over Latin America (they just say they are Mexicans to be dropped the nearest to America) to get "the American dream"
>participate in an almost slavery form of work in which they are paid even less than the already lowered wages or else they'll be reported to ICE authorities
>acceptable jobs like farmers, gardeners, plumbers, etc are seen as inferior jobs because you can pay minorities to do them (and somehow lefties don't see the irony in this).
>B..B...BUT MEXICANS DO IT FOR FREE, YOU MUST BE LAZY

Man, progressiveness and left ideologies really do catter to the lowest common denominator with no rational thinking.

>>82331391
He worked on the sundial that's used to calibrate the cameras on the rovers. I don't know in what capacity, but he was involved.

>>82332723
I'm a legal immigrant from Eastern Europe myself, and I went through all the channels. I'm not pissed at the Mexicans. If I lived in Mexico, I'd run across the border too.

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>>82329244
This man is more qualified than Bill Nye and he doesn't talk about it because gender shit is not his field of expertise

>>82331199
It's not that you actually learn anything in college; it's that the supply of college educated people is so high, you need a degree simply to have a chance of getting work in most fields. Unlees higher education is made much more difficult to access, this will just keep spiralling in a vicious circle as automation creeps in and wipes out 75% of the job market.

>>82332764
Where are you from?

>>82332742
What do you do for a living? You might feel that way now, but even most white collar jobs are vulnerable. Those very same pajeets along with robots are going to replace you too.

Most individuals are too dumb to do anything creative simply by birth, so they don't really have a choice in the matter. You're cucking for a bunch of super rich globalist kikes who benefit themselves and their kin by fucking over you and yours.

>>82328830
>I deplore debt, and do all I can to avoid it.

This is straight up bourgeoisie brainwashing. If you want to move up in the world and make it to the middle and upper classes you are going to need to incur some debt at some point in your life. Every millionaire has debt. Every businessman takes out loans.

>>82332749
To add to this

>low-level lumber company mechanics
Because first off, working on helicopters is much more involved than fixed wing aircraft. Although they all use the same certification, mechanics who are used to working on helicopters are generally considered more skilled and valuable than those who usually work on fixed wing aircraft. So right out the gate he is considered a cut above the typical A&P mechanic.

Second, remember how I mentioned it is easier to advance in trades without the need for education? Well going from logging helicopters he went to a luxery helicopter mechanic, then a luxery helicopter mechanic foreman. He didn't advance in his career because of education, it was purely because of experience and the fact that he is very, very good at what he does. So the school didn't just hire some sloppy mechanic, by the time he applied for the job he was a fairly well known name in the local aeronautics industry.

>>82332874
Some people are literally too dumb to properly leverage debt. They shouldn't try or they'll fuck themselves over. Even mortgages are too much for some people.

>>82332808
I'm from Belarus.

>>82332830
I'm a corporate lawyer. I think law will get progressively more automated and things like document review will get phased out over the next decade or two (maybe I'm being too pessimistic on time scale). Law will shrink, no doubt. I doubt I'll be out of a job, but who knows.

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>>82332874

>>82332907
Just get some experience with tax law. Unless there's a massive change in tax law, it's not going to be automated until you're retired.
Accountants did their best to machine proof their job by making shit as obtuse as possible.

>>82332907
Shit man,I am from Bosnia and I finished law school,how can I go to states?

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>>82332874
> this entire post

>>82332952
corporate sponsor is usually the easiest outside of marriage

>>82332926
It doesn't really work like that. I'm not in the tax group, and it's too late for me to switch unless I found another job and made a massive effort. I do transactional work, which I think is enough of a pain and involves enough client interaction that it'll be among the last on the chopping block.

>>82332898
>some people
Most people. It takes above average intelligence to create addee value without direct supervision, and even then investment always comes with risk.

Your average factory worker simply is not capable of starting and running an enterprise. Once monkey jobs run out, most people are left high and dry. Funnily enough, the smug urbanite shitting on these people is on average no more capable of adapting than they are. Automation will eventually hit, but there is no point accelerating this process by offshoring and fucking yourself over in the mean time, while giving the pajeets a chance to gradually transition.

>>82332749
>>82332895

Oh, and one last point is that the school already had two professors, each with at least three decades of experience and each with a masters in mechanical engineering, but neither of them where helicopter specialists.

My point is that if you are willing to work hard and you are actually good at what you do, trades can offer a broad path to success without you ever stepping foot in a college. Blue collar work is much more meritocratic than white collar work, where mediocrity is acceptable so long as you meet your expectations. Blue collar work has a much greater potential to reward exceptional skill or long experience.

>>82332907
Law will be automated sooner than you think. I believe there have already been proofs of concept.

>>82328830

is this a joke ?

>>82332982
I have the same chance of attracting a corporate sponsor as I have chances for a green card marriage. Thanks anyway.

>>82332952
I went to high school, university, and law school over here. Your best bet would be to work for a few years in Bosnia (preferably in corporate law) and get an LLM from a top program here in the states, which takes a year. Then you'll have to find a corporate law firm (almost certainly in NYC) to sponsor you, and you'll take the NY bar and all that.

You might as well shoot an application here every year too: https://www.dvlottery.state.gov/.

That's how I got in.

>>82332907
nah, if you have experience which you seem to, you are unlikely to be out of job. But law as a profession has already started to shrink. Plus the massive expansion of the pool of people with legal training and education.

at least in ausfag land, maybe you'd be surprised at how much mundane law stuff isn't done by lawyers anymore.

I wouldn't be surprised if white collars professions get hit harder in some ways, easier to make a computer program do shit than it is to automate a robot to be a plumber.

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>>82327665
>silk
>Egyptian
WE

>>82333051
I'll marry you if you play video games with me

>>82332647
no you don't

>>82333109
Where do you live?

>>82333048
Nah, burger conservatives really are that hokey

>It's a merchant bankers practise divide and conquer and pit slaves against other slaves episode

I really enjoyed the police vs. protesters arc but this one looks a little lacklustre by comparison.

>>82332981
>>82332924
You're a couple of idiots who don't even understand your own memes.

>>82333048
Look at his smug facial expression, he's laughing all the way to the bank. It's a sick joke to him but most Americans are dumb enough to buy into that kind of bullshit "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" rhetoric.

>>82327665
Mike Rowe fucked your mother once, maybe twice, he cant remember.

>>82333522
Good one, did your boyfriend write that for you?

>>82333066
I'm guessing they meant cotton, but silk was a thing in Egypt and still is.

>>82333109
No joke, now that gay marriage is legal perhaps we could start a greencard marriage ring? The main obstacle previously was that one had to find a willing girl.

>>82333284
Shlomo here is right. Debt serves a purpose - it is a way for potential value creators to access starting capital. While banking can and does get horrribly abused, there is nothing wrong with the idea of debt in principle. Hell, even when you're wagecucking, you're providing something and getting your reward later. Most economic interactions are debt in some way.

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>>82328830
> that image

>>82332405
What's your point? He was always just a host showcasing jobs that people do, and trying it for a day on camera, he never claimed to be a real worker of those jobs.

>>82332320
that's why its a contrarian meme here

>>82329161
>I have no sympathy for the working class that refused to adapt to an obviously changing world.

yeah fuck those guys they don't deserve to feed their families when their job is taken by illegals or replaced by automation and there's no other options for them

>>82328275
>I wish I would have went to school for something, and I'm planning on doing so in the future.

Listen to this guy. Even though journeyman in my trade pull in 150+, it ain't worth it.

>>82329843
globalists are sociopaths

>>82332709
Steel stud framer perhaps? You spend a lot of time bent over or on your knees. No homo.

>>82327665
It's probably really easy to tell people to be passionate about their minimum wage jobs if you only have to try them and you get payed tv money for it.

>>82333036
That could be very interesting if it happens.

The law being being treated with machine like logic would shake up a lot of things.

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PROTIP PROTIP PROTIP

If you use the term "Wage Slavery" not only are you a cuck, you are friends of Occupy and Anitfa.

Working for a wage is a just and noble thing, much more so than torching limousines or squatting in a park or posting on 4chan.

PROTIP PROTIP PROTIP

>>82336062
stop posting mai waifu, especially with bullshit attached

>>82336080
yiff in hell cuckfag

>>82328275
Wtf it looks like her foot has 6 toes

>>82336062

I like being friends of people who stand up to hate and wage slavery

>>82331511
That'll be changing soon enough.

The office workers basically just sort through information and shit out appropriate responses to that information. Their work doesn't even need a robot to replace, just appropriately applied computing power.

Marketing, sales, and shit like that will still be humans but kiss goodbye to most
>accounting departments
>records departments

Customer service is also about to feel automation in their lazy asses. They won't be eliminated but technology's improving to squeeze maximum efficiency out of them, pit them against one another, and make performance very measurable- making them accountable for their performance.

Managers are about to be hit hardest. The decision-making isn't what eats up managerial time, it's data analysis. Soon, managers of offices and even hospitals and medical settings are going to have VERY powerful tools to gauge performance and inform their decision making. They won't have to pour over records or do performance reviews or audit anyone's work- software will kick out clean, accurate data to inform those decisions. Know what that means? Fewer managers!

Skilled labor that can't be easily replaced with a machine will be very happy campers.
Competent managers who can work with improved software will thrive.
Lazy shits and redundant departments will suffer.

No sane employer LIKES keeping around a small army of paper pushers and phone monkeys. It'll end soon enough.

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>>82327665
>*wipes mouth with fine cloth made of Egyptian silk*
You wouldn't Egyptian silk if pharoh himself sent it to you, ya knock off wearing motherfucker.

>>82328188
Marlon Brando literally said it's ridiculous easy and he couldn't believe that they paid him for moving in front of a camera. He said more or less that being an actor is an pseudo "work" every retard could do.

Same thing said Carlos Pedersoli (Bud Spencer): "Even an ape could be an movie actor, every scene will be repeat and cut together".

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>>82327665
Is it possible to get a first time job at 25? Fast food preferably. I don't have any references since I am not a socialite.

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>>82336354
Of course.

>>82328188

it is extremely easy. Many films just pick their actors straight outta street and nobody notices the difference.

Only reason people try to keep up the claim that acting is hard because people might lose their respect for actors, and start filming their own zero-budget films instead

>>82336354
No, they'll hire minorities and teenagers first. It's not my rule, it's the law.

This thread is why we fucking hate millennials.


-Generation X

>>82327717
this

>>82329244
>MUH SEX JUNK IS SOO OH
Since when was this shit science?

>>82328188
It's literally fuck-easy. Just because bad actors exist doesn't mean good actors are working harder, they're just better. I'm a fucking programmer and I have no qualms that my job is harder than heavy warehouse work or ditch digging or something. I've worked those jobs and I can easily say my shit's easier, just takes more education

>>82336062
The good old good goy bad goy distinction

Just turned 29 and quitting my job next month. Worked for the last 6 years and realized that it's all meaningless. Every day, working like a slave for nothing. This isn't life. I finally saved up 21k and taking that money and just leaving. Traveling around the world with just a backpack and seeing how long it will last. Not even 100 years ago it was impossible for people to see and visit countries like Japan and Russia and we all waste are lives never experiencing this world or traveling. Sure people do meaningless stupid vacation like Hawaii or Italy, but they never actually go and truly have a travel adventure. Well I am.
Wish me luck /tv/

>>82336608
catch a foreign venereal disease

>>82329682
>>dying industry
It's dying because less people are doing it
What that means is there is more demand for skilled tradesmen, thus more pay

>surrounded by morons
sounds like any job

>>82327717
It's easy to praise the virtues of a blue collar job if you've never had one. Spending a day goofing off in front of a camera for millions of dollars is not the same as being forced to do a job day after soulcrushing day because your boss pays you just enough to eat, but not enough that you can move up in the world.

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>>82332287
>81% of podiatrists are men
hmmm this REALLY made me think

>>82328830
>i believe there are no such thing as a 'bad job'

AMERICAN EDUCATION

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>>82332874

Reminder that he is LITERALLY our guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDBM8lwVmQo

>>82331199
It's insane, I mean i finished my associates in comp sci, but immediately started my own consulting firm with a friend afterwards, but i'd say about 20% of the people I know who finished school within a specific major are actually doing work in that field. and that goes for about 3 graduating classes before and after myself, as I had friends across that spectrum. I know that's all anecdotal and national averages are probably more consistant, but all I ever see is grads whining about how the markets are too saturated and their degree doesn't really help. Also paid or even unpaid internships are on the decline in general, leaving no practice to the book learning when they finish.

>>82329114
>tfw there are literally people brainwashed to hate unions
L M A O go ahead and trust your employer, surely he wouldn't want to fuck you over! I'm with you anon, non unionized scabs can get fucked

>>82328054
Mike Rowe has actively campaigned against people getting useless degrees

Mike Rowe is the biggest fraud in television, literally worse than Bear Grilles, and right wing retards eat it up because he appeals to muh blue collar werkers.

>>82331231
This.

I will never understand Americans fascination with working themselves to death out of a sense of pride when it all it does is worsen their health and waste their limited mortality. It's not even more productive.

If there isn't shit to do I reduce my staff to a skeleton crew or cut them out early.

>>82337056
>non unionized scabs can get fucked

Damn straight. If I have one hope for myself it's that I'm never made to choose between drinking the contents of a large, ripe pissbottle or scabbing. Because I *will* drink the piss.

>>82337241
My dad is an electrical engineer who works 10 hours a day and commutes 2 hours. He comes home and watches fox news and on the weekend he watches sports. He hasn't taken a trip in 5 years and he only misses work when he goes to the doctor. His health is terrible because he does no exercise. He's very overweight and almost had a heart attack recently. He's only 55 and has had 3 major surgeries, he even has an ankle replacement. I told /pol/ about this and they called me a degenerate for despising his life style. It's purity spiraling. They think having a work ethic means giving up your limited time on this earth for a job. I hate these fucking retards. It's like Jiro Dreams of Sushi. He didn't even raise his children properly because he was a fucking sushi making autist working 16 hours a day because "muh work ethic."

>>82337349
>I told /pol/ about this and they called me a degenerate for despising his life style.

When you're a /pol/ NEET overdoing things assumes an importance it wouldn't otherwise have.

Actors should be hung for trying to influence politics and Mike Rowe is an actor.

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>>82332287
>You will never get to call yourself a "driller of earth"

>>82332716
And so is anyone NOT in a union as well, you realize that right?

>>82336354
>first time job at 25
are your parents rich or have you been on the dole since finishing high school?

>>82337349
what does your dad do? blue collar workers excluding maybe truck drivers usually get exercise on the job

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I like Mike Rowe

>>82337349
>>82337460
oh wait you already answered that question

those people make bank in my country why is he poor

>>82328759
>>82328407
I've worked on movie sets since high school.
Even the actors say they're job is a joke.
Hardest part is the public aspect, like dodging paparazzi, gossip, giving your kids a private life, staying relevant, etc.
But the actual acting part is ez

>>82328830
>1000th sperm to follow disintegration of ovary membrane is now considered "winning lottery"
>bring subjected to the cruelty of consciousness and life is "winning the lottery"
This guy is the biggest Jew around

>>82329244
P sure Billy has a bachelor's in biology

>>82336062
You're retarded.
Fucking Cicero was in no way involved with either of those groups.
Christ.

>>82337196
Against degrees he has deemed useless, you mean.
That's not what that anon was talking about anyway, I don't get your point.

>>82337964
Mechanical engineering.

>>82337349
We work ourselves to death. What worries me is with automation and AI rapidly gaining speed, a world without work might actually kill some people who can't function without that monotonous drive. They have no other concept of the purpose of life.