thoughts on the latest episode?

i mean they did a good job representing the abo's but that's about it - seemed like a filler episode.

Garbage
Lindelhack and his filler

It was great.
Can't stop laughing at "nothing happened" plebs

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Third Kevin's the charm.

>>82297390

Whole thing is genius. Loved it.

It basically confirmed that Kevin Snr. is a fallen angel, wants to be god, confirmed Hotel Assassin really happened. The series is going to be Kevin Jnr vs Kevin Snr in ultimate battle of good vs evil.

This show is too fucking good

scott glenn fucking crushed it.

>>82298052
I still think he is just a crazy old man. And now he has found a crazy old woman.

>>82297950
he looks so miserable and sad here meh kev-o my husbando what happened

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>>82298541

His story about the "burning mattress" shows that he really did communicate with Kevin Jnr. As we saw that happen in International Assassin.

BTW he died from the snake bite. When you see those people building the ark (who are the 5 dead kids, grown up a little (races match, not a coincidence)) he is in purgatory. They know who Christopher Sunday is BECAUSE he died.

Note that he took 7 pills but did NOT drink water with them. (we know not to drink water in purgatory from International Assassin).

Note that his totem is a snake (biblical reference).

Note he died with his crutches pointing outwards like wings (fallen angel - Satan).

Note that the cross is upside down implying the satanism symbol.

Note that when he was told he could "speak to God" and took God's tongue (the drug) he ended up speaking to Kevin Jnr (God/jesus).

Note that he thinks the story is about HIM and not his son (Lucifer was banished from heaven for this).

Note that it is Grace is the one who shot him with a tranquiliser dart - he literally had a "fall from Grace" WHILE in purgatory/heaven, after thinking he was God/Jesus. Literally satan

>>82300152
B R A V O D A M O N

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>>82297390
i wasn't too into it at first. but I watched it again and fucking loved it. it was hilarious watching Scott Glenn's adventures in the outback. Beautifully shot. The self-immolation scene was disgusting. I only wish there were more flashbacks like this showing his insanity. One of the best shots in the series.

reminder kevin died off screen in the first episode, shot by his wife's son, and the entire series has been in kevin's head as an attempt to comprehend is own death.

how to determine if a work of fiction is really about "muh charcters" in one easy question

>Do the characters drive the events?
>If yes, the work is character based
>if no, the work is plot based

>>82300152
that's pretty damn well put together, never thought of it that way.

>>82297390
I never thought I'd enjoy a Kevin Sr. episode as much as I would but there you have it. Best of the season so far. Lindelof is going full madman but I'm enjoying the fuck out of this ride.

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>>82297390
Was boring. I won't lie. It was basically episode 3 filler to mimic the past two seasons when the third episode is to showcase someone else other than Kevin.

>>82300152
>>82301605

Most of it I believe to be true but I was wrong about Grace shooting him with a tranq in heaven/purgatory. He left purgatory after taking the pain meds and passing out in the armchair with the photo album. Grace shot him when he woke up after that

Second half was kino

>>82301605
its copypaste from reddit

>>82300152
sorry, it's been awhile since i saw the first two seasons- What burning mattress? What dead kids?

>>82302321
He was talking about waking up to a burning mattress . After he tripped balls and spoke to Kevin in pergatory in season 2. The woman's departed kids building the arc confuses me.

RIP chris sunday

>>82302691
aahhhh holy shit i didnt make that connection that kevin sr was talking to kevin jr during international assassin.

>>82297836
>seemed like a filler episode.
>connects to a lot of things that have happened or are happening
>establishes a setting for kevin christ in future episodes
>two exceptional scenes
>filler episode

>>82300152
too reddit for me, sorry.

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>>82302773

You didn't?
Good think the internet is here for you to bestow awareness you would not have had on your own.

>>82302921
Good thing, even.

>>82302846
the entire series is filler because its all in service to nothing

>>82302983
>life itself is filler
whoa, 7deep1me

>>82297390
TELEKINO

>>82303075
Life isn't in service to anything. So, no, it isn't filler.

>>82300152
nice

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Equal?

>>82303130
>Life isn't in service to anything
>Life is in service to nothing
>It's not filler
whoa, it gets deeper

>>82300152
so if chris is dead he should be there with them, no?

What about the dog? Is he planning to assassinate Kevin Sr?

>>82303512
If you think that's deep its pretty easy to understand why you think leftovers is good.

>>82303545
>being this autistic/retarded
there's no way to describe how deep you are breh

>>82300152
what about his call to matt?

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>muh stories

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>>82297390

THE WRONG KEVIN DIED!

>>82300152
>races match
>looks like two abos working on the boat
>only one abo kid
this theory is falling apart at the seams

>>82303740

There were extra people working on the boat. 7 or 8 in total. They had recruited a few people. What truly mattered was that the 5 kids were there.

(BTW their age is not a problem. Patty was a child in purgatory)

>>82303982
yeah, now you're trying to force it to work. It's a fun theory, but like all the other ones, it's shit.

Is Australia really such a shithole?

>>82304339
yes

>>82304339
What do you mean by shithole?
It's really fucking big and it's hot, yes

Great episode. Episode 1 is the best one so far though.

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>>82304028

really doesnt take much effort for it to work

>>82304977
>ginger kid turns into a muslim looking guy, but hey, they're wearing the same colored top!
also, by your loose justifications
>abo isn't wearing a hat
>literally not the same person

>>82300152

This is all very thoughtful, but I bet like none of this will lead anywhere because Lindelof.

>>82304028
>some people actually didn't realise that mini ark was built by spoopy ghosts
kek

>>82297390
Jesus, I thought that was Kevin Sorbo.

>>82305342
>some people actually believe any loosely formed theory that literally breaks apart with minimal observation
kek

>>82305275
The references to Satan don't have to be paid off since he's not literally Satan. But it's really obvious that Kevin Sr. will be pretending to be his son this season.

>>82306108
>But it's really obvious that Kevin Sr. will be pretending to be his son this season.
or he's gonna use the crazy lady to try and remove his son

>>82306108
>Kevin Sr. will be pretending to be his son
sorry i'm stupid
where did you get that from?

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>>82304653
what was so good about the first episode??

>>82306192
>woman is looking for police chief kevin
>his name is literally kevin, was a former police chief
>his son is named kevin, is currently a police chief
>he will say he is the kevin the page is written about, which is actually written about his son

it's unlikely he will pretend to be the kevin that is written about though. But his ego will use her one way or another.

>>82306192
We see him get pissy about how the story is about him but he isn't in it, to Matt and then we get this woman you doesn't know which Kevin was on the piece of paper.

>>82306240
>>82306297
oh, i thought it was something bigger than that

i bet it won't happen

Did they only shoot the season in Australia because their budget is so shit?

>>82306221
probably because its the only episode about people actually reacting to a completely insane situation.

>>82301714
but episode 2 was a nora-only episode too

>>82306498
He either tells the truth or lies. Either way, it'll be in service of his Rain Man destiny.

>>82306649
well they've been hinting at australia since last season, perhaps even earlier than that

>>82304339
they didn't show the drop bears

Scott Glenn looked in pretty good shape for 76 ngl

Would you kill a baby if it would give you dubs?

>>82306221
Wrapped up the Dean storyline, had that great birthday party scene with all the guys talking about their 25th birthday, Kevin finding out about the book of Kevin and a lot more

>>82303207
This guy has really hypnotic eyes, I wish we saw more of him

>>82306960
also Gary Busey

Am I the only one a little taken aback by how hard the show is pushing the "he's just crazy" stuff with the hunter and reinforcing it with Kevin Sr.? So much of this show has tread the line between supernatural, spiritual, and mundane, now they seem to actively be grounding the show

>season opener the preacher is just a fraud
>Dean is a paranoid maniac
>Kevin is an schizoid egomaniac who has convinced himself he's the messiah
>Matt tells his congregation that his wife was cured the day they came to Miracle but the audience knows that's a lie
>aussie cunts are deluded by a single page in a book written by a huckster that they found in the trash to kill a man
>all the while Nora is being strung along on the most fantastical departure theory yet
Nora's thing will either not end well for her or will prove all the crazies right

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>>82300152

>>82307395
And I forgot the whole tower guy thing, another mundane incident being spun as something bigger

>>82303660
Her story didn't even make sense
>hurrr my kids decided to wait me for exactly 5 minutes, not even try to contact anybody, and just fucking roll through the desert, lol

>>82307395
it's as if the show is about desperate people wanting to believe in things...

>>82300152
Lindelhack, is that you?

>>82307227
the fact gary busey got raptured totally brings the entire series into focus

the world go insane without garey busey acting as an insanity capacitor.

>>82307474
I don't think the show has been so open about proving them wrong before

>>82307427
they waited longer than that. They also saw their father disappear in front of them

>>82307546
and that matters why?

>>82307395
>I just figured out the shows premise 2 season in
Really made me think, senpai.

>>82297390
It was kino

>>82302846
I really don't get this either. It was chock full of content; as far as shows go Leftovers is remarkably fat-free. Every episode explores the characters or a character AND moves the plot forward.

>>82300152
I hate this theory and I hate you and your pets

>>82307588
Because I'm curious about where they're taking the show in the next 5 episodes, and the small change in tone seems to suggest something is building

>>82307678
> the small change in tone seems to suggest something is building
no shit, the show is ending.

the show has pretty much always been about kevin dealing with his sanity/insanity. The show is literally going into the final stretch. Do you expect them to just keep it in a holding pattern until the final episode?

>>82307662
It's just symbolism you autistic neckbeard.

>>82307761
I don't know why you're so bothered by it

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Everything is a red herring. The show is called Leftovers, thats the point. It's a show about people desperately searching for purpose and never getting any because the purpose already happened and they weren't a part of it. The flood would be purposeful, and they won't get even that

>>82307854
I don't know why you're making it seem like it's surprising that they wrapping up the show on its final season.

>>82307886
then dont watch it

>>82307886
While I agree with you on the specifics, I disagree with the spirit of this idea. Yes, they're all looking for meaning where there is none. This episode was a perfect example. Kevin Sr thinks he's going to be responsible for preventing the flood; Grace Playford thinks she is fulfilling or becoming a part of prophecy because of the page of the book she found on Kevin. Both are entirely wrong and it's merely an odd set of coincidences that has brought them together.

Someone at Collider saw 7 of the 8 episodes and said in an article they were mystified as to how it's going to end. So Lindelof and Perotta are going to play it close to the vest till the last episode.

>>82307509
>Well, the Pope. I get the Pope. But Gary fucking Busey? How does he make the cut?

Still one of the best lines in the series

>>82307886
Based Damon

Loved it.Really gutted this is a shortened season and the last.I never expected it to be a 7 season mega series but I think they could still keep the quality up for a good 4 seasons.At least we're actually getting a conclusion though , could have easily been cancelled.

>>82308169
Do you think the madman will do it? A Gary Busey cameo?

MAKE IT HAPPEN LINDELOF

>>82308325
>gary busey was just lost in some desert getting high and trying to contact aliens the whole time

>>82308134
>Gary Busey turns out to be crazy St. Peter

>>82297390

best ep so far

>>82308134
>Someone at Collider saw 7 of the 8 episodes and said in an article they were mystified as to how it's going to end
This makes me slightly worried, but I remember that I felt the same way with seasons 1 and 2, and those were superb season endings.

>>82308583
They also talked about how they ended season 2 in a way that would be conclusive, were it not renewed by HBO. And I feel it could have ended there, so the question is: can Lindelof pull it off again? Can he top himself?

>>82306221
Forgot to mention that remixed version of the main theme was amazing

>>82308134
>Collider
Remember these people are retards so I doubt it's that complicated Tbh.

>>82308756
Well the article touched upon the internet (they say reddit but we know there was plenty of analysis here too) and it's ability to unravel "puzzlebox" tv. So I think Lindelof's strategy at this point, if there is going to be some le epic tweest, is to be as opaque as possible until the very last episode, which they purposefully did not air for the Collider people.

We might not be getting a bunch of red herrings, but we're not getting any clues to the end either.

>>82308683
the only thing lindelof ever really pulls off is making people think hes going to pull something off.

>>82309155
He's already proven that he can end a season off well, so I have faith that Lindelof knows how to end the series satisfyingly.

>>82309196
>tfw Kevin Sr. kills his son and then stands on top of a house singing and then stuck by lightning
You heard it here first.

>>82309155
Plus we have an actual good novelist also pitching in. It's not like this is exclusive Lindelof's fanfic.

Perhaps Perotta dampens his worst tendencies and that's why The Leftovers is so kino. Hope these two work together again.

>>82309196
>a bunch of old fat chainsmokers are suddenly ninjas and sneak mannequins into people's houses
>RIOT

>three bitches in white stand on a bridge with a countdown timer
>timer reaches zero
>nothing happens
>RIOT

>good

lying, lindelof, or retarded?

The only reason people think season 2 is good is because of the updated greek afterlife segments.

>>82309296
meant for
>>82309196

>>82309296
>the writer of the book the leftovers was based upon
>good novelist

...

>>82309309
takes a special kind of autism to disregard the good aspects of the finales and reduce them down to bullet points

>godfather
>a bunch of italians cause problems
>what a shit movie.

>>82309309
I don't get what your argument is. Are you trying to say those kinds of things wouldn't happen in real life, and that the show isn't realistic?

>>82297390
i cant stand kevin sr
he looks and sounds like a surfer dudebro who is 90

>>82309390
Except I'm not being reductive at all or ignoring any aspect of the two finales. Sneaking mannequins into people's houses was the GR's ENTIRE PLAN in the first season.

Then standing on the bridge with a timer that does nothing was the ENTIRE PLAN of the GR in the second season.

and the only reason either plan resulted in anything other than confused headshaking is because the writer, lindelof, forced them to work.

>>82309353
He also wrote Election and Little Children which by all accounts were excellent novels and adapted into excellent movies.

>>82309470
>Except I'm not being reductive at all or ignoring any aspect of the two finales.
>literally being reductive and ignoring many aspects of the two finales

>>82309470
Yeah, that's what happened in the episodes. What did you dislike about it?

>>82309470
>and the only reason either plan resulted in anything other than confused headshaking is because the writer, lindelof, forced them to work.
it's as if this is a method of story telling that has been used forever.

>>82307427
She didn't make it home until 2 days later.

>>82307427
you obviously have no experience with kids whatsoever

>>82309553
>the only reason either plan resulted in anything other than confused headshaking is because the writer, lindelof, forced them to work.

>>82309524
funny, neither of those were popsci drivel.

Though little children did have that OH FUCK SOMEONE WITH GOGGLES GET OUT OF THE POOP bit, which was utterly retarded.

>>82309470
>Black kid gets shot
>Riots, in places the kid had never even been, over it

>Finds the reactions to the GR unrealistic

>>82310437
Nice to see you put human life on the same level as B&E + unauthorized feng shui and blocking traffic + winning hide and seek

>>82309583
Hi lindelof.

People who aren't hacks can create believable context for just about anything. Leftovers fails at this utterly.

>>82310615

I hope that you don't talk like this in conversations with real people, because I'd hope the first time you did they'd punch you right in the fucking face.

>>82310731
Sorry that you can't come up with any counter arguments.

>>82310615
Nice to see you ignore the entire concept of the departure

DUDE. GOSPEL MUSIC LMAO

They're going fucking overboard with it this season

>>82310721
>The only reason the story played out the way it did was because the writer wrote it that way and that's stupid

>>82310817
yes, its weird how people would not address something that isn't relevant to a particular line of discussion.

But what about the migratory patterns of australian caribou?

>>82310886
>writer fails to establish proper context to make events believable
>whys that's bad tho?????

... for the love of god lindelof.

>>82310960
>The GR isn't dedicated to telling people they're worthless and the people that disappeared are worthless
>You don't see how people would find this disrespectful
Your mental gymnastics are terrifying

>>82300152
He's not dead.

>>82311025
The problem of course, is the GR doing that for thre years and people still reacting at all.

People stopped caring about the westboro baptists after less time.

>>82300152
I miss S01 when it was only about people dealing with loss

>>82300152
I agree with a lot of stuff you asid but I'm sure he didn't dei from the snake bite, and he didn't want to purgatory, he was just seeing them because he just can.

>>82311547
>people dealing with loss
That theme has been so overdone in fiction that it makes sense why they want to move away from it, desu. You can only cover a topic beaten to death in so many unique ways, after all.

>>82300152
Retard.

>>82311692
all topics have been beaten to death.

>>82311379
The difference is that the westboro cucks were being retards about specific things like some rando soldier's funeral or gay people
The GR are being retards about 2% of the population essentially dying in the strangest event of human history
I'd imagine it'd take more time to get over that.

>>82311022
>proper context
>it's been shown many many times through the story that people really hate the GR
I don't know why you think that people rioting because of what the GR did is unrealistic. They made it pretty clear that the GR were assholes and that people hated them. The mannequin shit was just the final straw for it.

>>82311379
>nah bro, it's ok for you break into my house and bring up how I mysteriously lost family members and just dredge up all those hurtful feelings
pls kill yourself.

>>82311759
what's the difference?

>>82311915
Everyone on earth vs one family and some Patriots?

>>82311915
westboro people make signs and try to disrupt funerals. They don't personally follow you around without saying anything and actively disrupt your life. They don't break into your house. You can literally walk away from westboro retards and they wouldn't care. GR are in your face all the time.

>>82311969
again, what is the difference? The GR can't be all places at once.

>>82311995
Oh so GR are like papparazzi combined with westboro

oh god those things exist in real life! why isn't everyone like, super depressed all the time???

>>82309065
>but we're not getting any clues to the end either.
Ehhhh Sarah seems like a pretty big clue, probably not the ending scene of the series but, definitely in the finale.

>>82312047
wew lad. Beautiful false equivalence you have there. No point in continuing this.

>>82312014
What are you even arguing at this point?

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>>82306928

What is the secret of Tony the magic chicken

>>82313008
he's the writer's view on abortion. Since the egg was literally a chicken yet, it didn't depart. Hence, he's for abortion. His magical power is fake and he's just pecking shit like any chicken would.

>>82312346
I'm thinking it's always the same guy that keeps making a bunch of retarded posts in leftovers threads

>>82307395
>>aussie cunts are deluded by a single page in a book written by a huckster that they found in the trash to kill a man

It was the one page Kevin Sr. had on his person when she found him at the cross she made where her kids died. If she didn't get the page specifically there she wouldn't have thought much of it.

>>82300152

B R A V O

D A M O N

>>82312126
>the GR is literally westboro + paps
>LOL FALSE EQUIVIALNCE I'M OUT ITS NOT LIKE I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER ARGUMENTS OR ANYTHING

Beautifully directed and acted. The Abo song playing in the bridge scenes subtly reminding us that he is trying to prevent the apocalypse. Chris Sunday noting Kev Sr's fear right away. The rife symbolism. Each ep of S3 keeps getting better.

>>82300152
How the hell did he call Matt from purgatory?

>>82313366
dude kevin has been dead since the first episode and matt represents part of his personality lmao

>>82313188
GR go after a wide range of people, literally everyone. WBC and paps target specific small people. Unless you're a famous celebrity or at a funeral for soldier where tehy happen to be, they would never affect your life. The GR is everywhere fucking with everyone's life. Yes, it is a false equivalence. Go fucking kill yourself already and end your pathetic sad life.

>>82309196
He wrote Season 2's finale without knowing if there would even be a season 3 as well and I thought that was great.

The exchange between Kevin Sr. and Matt on the phone was pretty obvious foreshadowing.

>Matt: Children don't feature prominently in scripture.
>Kevin Sr: What about Abraham's kid?
>M: Isaac? He was 36.
>K: No, no, when Abraham tried to sacrifice him.
>M: He was a grown man, 36 years old.
>K: That makes no fucking sense at all.

Kevin Sr. is gonna have to sacrifice Kevin, though we already knew this from the end of the final trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkJ6oraES9E#t=93

Also apparently they took down the version of the trailer with S.O.S. by Abba, and replaced it with some other song, lame.

>>82314704
Said this in an earlier thread. How does Sarah (Nora) come in to play here?

>>82306928
Just smashed my newborn with a sledgehammer. Let's see if it worked.

>>82302691
>The woman's departed kids building the arc confuses me.
they didn't depart, they died in the outback.

>>82315219
Sorry, mate...

>>82313767
The people the WBC targets got bored with them after the first time they saw them. The people paps target get bored with them the first few times they see them.

But the GR, somehow, did the same shit for seven years and still no one is bored with them. For literal reasons.

So yes, the writing is absolutely ridiculous.

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>>82315404
No need to be sorry bud, kid survived. I've taken care of it now though, check em.

>>82315915
Your lack of counter-argument is noted.

>>82314704
>Also apparently they took down the version of the trailer with S.O.S. by Abba, and replaced it with some other song, lame.

They always do this, the fucking cunts. HBO trailers usually have God-tier music, but they take them down and replace them with the most generic shit. Except for Game of Thrones and its shitty trailer music.

>>82307395
the further one gets, the harder one's beliefs are being tested

>>82315853
Well there is the fact that the GR keep escalating their attacks. First it was just standing around, then they broke into people's houses and put effigies of their departed loved ones there, then they were threatening schoolchildren and storming and occupying the only "safe" place in the world.

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>>82307395
Yeah I'm with you on this, I hope they don't end the series with "everyone's theories are bullshit and they're all definitely crazy"

Part of the reason I loved episodes like international assassin was how well the show has walked that line- at first you think its utterly ridiculous and then you start to think about the part where hundreds of thousands just vanished and clearly there's at least some element of the world thats supernatural/beyond human explanation.

Now this season seems to just be honing in on "there is no chance of any such element existing" which kind of makes me sad

>>82307395
>>82316646
I don't see it that way, to me it seems like the show has long gone past any ambiguity about supernatural events taking place when Kevin was dead and buried for 8 hours and came back to life. If the first season of the show was about whether people were going crazy or seeing signs, the second season was about how to interpret those signs, which are vague and inscrutable.

>>82315853
Context, man. That shit's a little different when 2% of the worlds population disappeared, society is basically just broken, and the cult's explicit purpose is "fuck you for caring about the departed"

>>82316765
The show goes past any ambiguity in its basic premise, the departure is 100% supernatural/beyond human understanding (I don't think the difference is meaningful in the context of the show).

Part of the shows charm for me is that there's almost equal evidence for both interpretations- Kevin drank the poison but was it really the instantaneous heart-stopping drug that John's father said it was, or was it somethign else? John believes Kevin is christ because he shot him, but a gunshot isn't even close to 100% deadly.

I'm with you that it's about interpreting signs, but the most recent episodes (in particular the last one) seem to be pushing the narrative that there are no signs, just human interpretation. I don't think thats the "correct" interpretation of the show at all but I just hope they don't veer too much in that direction