>Gandalf?

>>82296464
Yeeeeeeeaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh

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>>82296464
Watching this in the theater was so hilarious. Every time another character showed up with this incredibly gay smile, everyone started laughing. It was a fucking riot.

Why the fuck did Jackson think it was smart to put a soft filter on this scene? literally looks like a 2-bit porno

>>82296464
https://youtu.be/ArQe1jBTAEg

>>82296573
You think too much. Just enjoy their celebration of destroying the ring.

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Were they being ironic when they decided to include this scene?

>>82296813
>music swells
serious feels

>>82296813
All the budget went to Gollum, apparently. That green screen looks awful

>>82296883
It's 2002/2003. That's 14 years ago. Don't expect too much.

>>82296573
It was supopsed to be a fairy tale happy ending with marshmallows and everything but Jackson got carried away a little bit.

>>82296883
>>82296920

Looks fine in motion

>>82296927

It's super homoerotic. I can't believe no one brought that up when they were reviewing the final cut.

>>82296956
I think that horrible bloom/shine effect is the #1 responsible for this. I don't get why Jackson insisted to put that shit on half of the movies' runtime. The whole "Everyone laughing in slomo" thing could have worked okay.

>>82296956
It was a different time. Not everyone was so obsessed with homosexuality then. It only looks super gay now.

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>>82296464
Why did he forget Legolas' name?

>>82296987
>>82296956
I think you are forgetting that this scene happens after frodo and sam at the "here at the end of all things" and eagles rescuing them at mount doom, where everybody at the theater were crying.

>>82297045
They never interacted

>>82296994
>>82297048
Guys I was in the theater when this movie debuted and everyone was fucking losing it. Granted it was a bunch of high school kids, but still. It's just way too gay.

I blame the filter.

>>82296994
It's more that the movies failed to emphasize the relationship between Frodo and Sam properly. Frodo is around 50 years older than Sam, Sam sees him as a father figure and Frodo treats him like a son.
There's a time skip of about 60 years from Bilbo leaving the Ring to Frodo and Frodo escaping the Shire, whereas the movies presents that as happening within a few days.

>>82297098
Of course. For a book is fine, but if the movies would follow the correct timeline it would be a constant climax killer.
Scourging of the shire wouldn't make sense.
I think they even spent 1 month at lothlorien in the books.

>>82297157
The scourging of the shire was better off cut honestly, but cutting out that timeskip removes a pretty significant piece of context from Frodo as a character. Sam, Merry and Pippin are kids, whereas Frodo is actually fairly old and he's trying very hard to keep the stupid kids from getting themselves killed.

>>82297268
I think the movie conveyed a nice companionship between the hobbits. And that's what the movie is about. An old man taking care of some kids would feel a bit awkward. But hey, everybody got different opinions and that's a good thing.

>>82297098
This. Jackson went full bromamce before that was even a word

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>Be 14
>Front seat passenger side in car
>Reading the third book
>Never finished it; dropped it after they destroyed the ring
>Close to the scourge
>Pull into apartment complex driveway
>This blonde 12 year old loli in an EXTREMELY high-cut one-piece is getting ice cream from a truck
>Blows everything else the fuck out my mind, just staring at this goddess
>Never finish the book

>>82297045
>GIMLI! SAM! AND aaahhhh! ohh, youuu! it's youuu...! oh AND ARAGORN! GANDALF

poor legolas :c

>>82297098
Frodo isn't 50 years older than Sam, he's not even 50 for a start. He's like 11 years older, which is not much of a difference in the Shire since most hobbit men have kids at 40+. Pippin and Merry are quite a bit younger though.

>>82296464
should not have had a filter
should not have been in the bed
get frodo out of the bed and then have everyone pouring in to greet him

>>82296927
to be fair Jackson could hardly make the ending less gay than the books. In the books Aragorn sings the WHOLE story of the one ring and Sam bursts out crying. The least homosexual part of the ending is Faramir showing mad game and picking up Eowyn.

>>82297645
You forgot the part where Sam tells Frodo he loves him.

>>82297599
Was about to say this
Hobbits don't live long enough for any of that shit to have happened, Bilbo was considered pretty fucking old at his birthday in the fellowship(which IIRC was around 100 or so). IIRC the Hobbit takes place 60 years before the fellowship, and from the time the ring was left to frodo to gandalf telling frodo what it was, took about a year or so.
Pippin and Merry are like 20 years younger than Frodo but for Hobbits it doesn't matter much because they mature slower than humans

>>82297713
>took about a year or so.
I'm pretty sure it's longer than that, around 10 years. Frodo is a middle-aged chubber by the time he leaves the Shire

>>82297645
>Aragorn sings the WHOLE story of the one ring and Sam bursts out crying
What's gay about that? Snackson could've pulled it off.

>>82297045
keked

>>82297748
>Frodo is a middle-aged chubber by the time he leaves the Shire

The ring had an age halting effect on him though. So while in terms of maturity he was older than the other hobbits in terms of how he looked he would have only looked up to a decade older than them at most.

>>82297713
Bilbo was 111 at his birthday

I think it's called a "gross" in the books for whatever reason.

>>82297748
its 17 years. he is the same age as when bilbo set out in 'the hobbit'. the other hobbits have just turned of age after their tweens, which is the hobbit equivalent of teen years except in your 20s.
So Meery, Pippin and Sam are around 33 and Frodo is 50.

>>82297809
Frodo doesn't use the ring while he's in the Shire. He only starts using it after, first at the Inn by accident and later at Weathertop on purpose.

>>82297645
>ooooh there once was a hobbit from the shire
>had a ring the size of a tire..

Great song that

>>82297809
I don't think Hobbits look much different from when they are 30 to 70 in any case, ageing in terms of its affact on their appearance is less harsh probably because they have slower metabolisms and a longer maturity. A lot of the effects of age are brought about by hormones past puberty. Testosterone for instance raises male blood pressure and maintains more lipids in the blood which over time hammers our capillaries and veins meaning most men start to go deaf.

>>82297865
You don't have to use the ring for it to have influence over you, you just need to be in its presence. Bilbo also looked remarkably young for his age due to his proximity to the ring for years. This is specifically mentioned in the book.

>>82296813
Can you imagine this scene from the perspective of one of those dirt farming peasants?
>OI, WUT DID THESE WEE CUNTS DO THAT WE'S BE BOWIN'?
>DEY CARRIED A RING, THEY DID
>DEY CARRIED A FOOKIN RING? ME SON AND ALL ME FRIENDS DIED FOIGHTIN OFF THE ENTIRE BLEEDIN ARMIES OF SAURON LIKE THREE DAYS AGO AND WE'S BE BOWIN FOR DESE RING CARRYIN MIDGETS?

>>82297958
Then why does Frodo just chill with the ring for like 20~ years while Gandalf is off fucking about looking for answers?

You'd think he'd slip it on, give it a try so to speak.

You probably need to have it literally on your person for it to influence you.

>>82297981
in this more perfect universe, peasants know their goddamned place

>>82297809
I don't think it halts aging, I think it just prolongs your lifespan. Case in point, Bilbo mentioned that he was feeling very 'stretched' in the books and somewhat understood it had granted him an unnaturally long lifespan. Gollum is the prime example, because originally he was more or less a hobbit that exceeded his max lifespan by several hundred years. It didn't halt his aging, it just made him live longer.

>>82297645
Trying to imagine the characters doing the singing while reading the book is fucking bizarre. Like in Legolas last scene where he randomly starts singing about the sea and then walks off into the distance

>>82298065
it is, but Tolkien was driving at a fair point that past cultures would have been pretty big on singing, it tends to get overlooked in history and archaeology.

>>82297981
Kek

>>82298065
>>82298135
if you think of our world at that level of technology, what would people do for entertainment, most people were illiterate, gather round the fire and tell stories sing songs, pass on oral history.

would have been pretty common.

>>82297896
>>82298064
The book specifically mentions Frodo looking young for his age. So while mentally he was 50, in terms of physicality and appearance he was still the same age he was when he received the ring at 33.

>"As time went on people began to notice that Frodo also showed signs of good 'preservation' : outwardly he retained the appearance of a robust and energetic hobbit just out of his tweens. 'Some folk have all the luck,' they said; but it was not until Frodo approached the usually more sober age of fifty that they began to think it queer"

>>82298022
Frodo doesn't try on the Ring because he has no temptation to. He's incredibly resistant to its call but not to its passive effects of agelessness.

If Frodo had had the ring for as long as Smeagol or Bilbo then he would have started to look more fucked up but for the time that he had it for the only effects that it showed was a sort of agelessness.

Why did Treebeard said "The ents are going to war, it's likely to be their last", when they didn't lose a single tree in the combat and btfoed Isengard?

>>82298065
>>82298135
Consider also there was no Pandora radio or youtube, not even CDs. All music had to be performed. It would be a rare treat to hear someone with a real good voice sing something.

>>82298135
There are studies that suggest that tonal vocalization(the precursor to singing) predates actual language. In other words, we were already singing before we even properly had language.

>>82298223
because all their bitches had been gone for centuries and without bad pucci ents take roots and stop being conscious

>>82298223
Treebeard was a bit of a prankster

>>82298259
>all their bitches had been gone for centuries

They could resist the Big Black Ent Cocks ?
lmao, poor little white ents

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>>82298286
kys

>>82298238
rock stars think they get pussy now, imagine being the one guy in a ten miles radius that could afford to learn and play an instrument.

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>>82296464
>Sam?

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>>82298286
>we wuz TREES n sheeeit

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dacuJCKTeec

'I will not say: do not weep; for not all tears are an evil.'

>>82298331
Youd be a court performer, with the kings harem of hotties shlicking themselves while you played. Then youd be beheaded

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ9NOV3KNpY

Is this the single greatest piece of cinematic music ever produced?

>forever ruined by shitty high pitched mixing done by some deaf fuck

RRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>82298223
>Be Merry and Pippin
>Get lost in one of the most dangerous places in Middle Earth on a quest to save it
>Get rescued by ent
>Ent almost kills you after thinking you're an orc
>Figure these guys must hate orcs so you ask for their help with your quest to save the world from them
>"lol nah it's not our problem, brah"
>"We'll drop you off at home though, it's not like you're doing anything important, right?"
>Ents notice that they're getting killed too
>wtf we hate Saruman now!
>"Fine we'll help you but this means the extinction of us all. I hope you can live with that"
>They defeat Saruman easily and with only a couple of ents dying at worst
>Hope that the ents can continue to help since they're now fully aware of the threat posed to them and are of great help too
>"lol nah it's not our problem, brah"

Fuck the ents

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>>82298286
I think maybe you meant the Redwoods.

>>82298331
I'm pretty sure every dumbfuck shepherd could play an instrument, herding sheep is boring

>>82298427
That's nothing Bateman

https://youtu.be/U8b6Ov-U98k?t=35m1s

All the music is pretty incredible tbqh

>>82298331
I wish traveling musician was still a thing. Just travel town to town, singing for food and lodging, getting laid on the regs, picking up and moving on.

Shit sounds so cash.

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>>82298505
nvm the soundtrack version is kind of fucked.

there's a lot of nuance to the editing in the scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8yOdAqBFcQ

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>>82298528
They still are a thing, they usually look like this

>>82298528
I wish highway robbery was still a thing. I'd slit your throat you minstrel fag.

Shit would be so me taking your cash

>>82297878
>said nah to the eagle
>i'll walk it with Smeagol
>but both fell into in doom's fire

>>82298208
Gandalf had a LED staff, their technology was good enough

>>82298584
>Fiddle kicks in right as they begin to charge

Chills every time.

>>82298702
Yeah man same. Also I love those fucking horn FX.

It's amazing how well this scene holds up over 10 years later.

>>82298627
kek

>>82298528
they're called gypsies, m8

>>82298797
Actually they're called troubadours

Gypsie are ethnic nomads, typically Irish-American.

>>82298797
The word that guy meant is "bard"

>>82297599
>Frodo isn't 50 years older than Sam, he's not even 50 for a start
yes he was. He was literally supposed to be about 50

the film got his image right though

>>82298427
>forever ruined by shitty high pitched mixing done by some deaf fuck
What?

>>82298797
Gypsies were more notorious for being copper and bronze workers, and of course thieving, kidnapping shits

>>82298223
Why didn't they use the eagles to drop nukes on Isengard?

>>82298818
>Gypsie are ethnic nomads, typically Irish-American.
>typically Irish-American

What kind of bait is this?

>>82298482
Dumbfuck shepherds couldn't afford any instrument that wasn't a flute they carved on their own. Being the one guy who could afford a lute or some shit like that, something you don't just carve in an afternoon, would have been rockstar-tier.

The Shepherds would spend their time singing too, but that doesn't mean they'd be any good at it.

>>82298900
Irish gyppos are a thing, but they are unrelated from those of mainland Europe and are less of a lost cause in terms of acting like actual human beings

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>>82298900
sorry I got all my knowledge of Gipsies from pic related

traveling Irish-Americans is a real thing tho

>>82298259
Didn't trees become Ents and vice-versa?

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>>82297645
>>82297878

I'm I the only one who skipped all those shitty badly written songs and poems?

They were so shit.

>>82298596
That's what I'm saying. They're trying to pursue a career that went the way of the dodo pretty much the instant radio was born.

>>82298900
There are Irish gypsies though. We call them Tinkers.

>>82298584
Now compare this to the fecal matter that Battle of the Five Armies. It's amazing the same guy directed both.

>>82298598
But I could write songs for you and turn you into a folk hero. It would become an honor getting robbed by you.

>>82299043
>[Autistic screeching]

>>82299043
It is truly amazing. It never should have been three movies. There's enough material for MAYBE 2, but the studio is so Jewish that wanted more shekels.

>>82299033
>>82298941
We've all seen Snatch, lads.

It's the American part of Irish-American that's weird as fuck, while it's a bit weird to equate gypsies to typically being Irish anything.

>>82299033
>Tinkers
Really makes you tink

>>82298584
>>82298742
>>82299043
Someday I want to do an indepth attempt at figuring out why LotR works and The Hobbit doesn't.

People are quick to point out the big problems but I think it's all the little nuances that really make the difference.

>>82299176
The worst parts have been memed to death here, that's definitely part of it. I think we all have antigrav Legolas seared into the brain at this point.

Why didn't Jackson include singing orcs?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdXQJS3Yv0Y

>>82299176
The Hobbit feels like a Marvel film. LOTR was more mature in comparison of course since The Hobbit was based on a children's book but it doesn't feel like a children's movie. It feels like a children's movie for children who want to feel like adults.

>>82296464
I wanna fuck Frodo's hobbitpussy.

>>82299176
As many have pointed out the three movie split is what killed it. Most of the bad stuff were done in reshoots (Alfrid shit, dwarf/elf romance) and/or in computers (Legolas stunts, Smaug chase, golden statue, most of the battle of the five armies). When they were still two movies the plot would have been more focused and closer to the book. I think the fact that jackson got no time to prepare was what led into the decision to split it into three, a decision that happened just shortly before the release of the first one

>>82299402
I really hope to someday see the original 2-movie cut.

>>82299472
There's a fan edit out there that cuts out everything not in the book. It runs about 5 hours.

It's surprisingly well-done, even the river-barrel-ride is fixed and I couldn't tell it was edited.

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>>82299498
Nice tumblr gif

I remember watching the 3rd movie and how long and fucking boring it was, but during the end gandalf is wearing a pair of white basketball shoes and we couldn't stop laughing

>>82297268
Frodo,Sam and Merry are all around the same age. Only Pippin is young

>>82298861
The LOTR soundtrack suffers from occasional piercing high pitched "whining" noises, it's a known issue. If you can't hear them then either your ears or your audio equipment isn't up to par

>>82298223
Because the bulk of the troops where at the Gate, if they haven't moved the ents would've been massacred

>>82299902
there's just over a ten year gap from Frodo to sam/merry, and then about the same again to pippen.

>>82299176
Executives. A trilogy is one thing, but not letting enough time to completely redo it Jackson's way (he took over early from the hellboy director), and fucking up the schedule so that he had to do it at one half while completely ill and the other on roughly two hours sleep a night, is something else. Even things like Legolas, CGI, alfred and the tauriel/kili romance could all have been improved upon (which includes reducing their screen time as an option) if there was a chance.

The only thing that isn't forgivable is that there wasn't a full-cast audiobook recording released with it. Really wish we got a full version of Misty Mountains by Armatage and co.

>>82299282
>It feels like a children's movie for children who want to feel like adults.
Isn't wanting to feel like adults how children enjoy adventure movies? Given 16-25 year old Luke Skywalker works, but 8 year old Anikan doesn't.

>>82296483
Am i still to create the perfect ring?

>>82296883

They made this film in 1998 dude.

>>82296813
Who wore the vest best?

>>82301153
Pippin

>>82296813
>when will they ever learn

Can someone illumine me as to why LOTR is so massively popular on places like tumblr and with counterculture leftwingers in spite of it being a tale dense with European and Catholic morality?

>>82301560
I have two theories. The first is that it's a fantasy world which allows for a sense of escapism from the nihilism of this one. The second is that it's just a great series which transcends political divides. Not everything in this world has to be related to politics anon.

>>82301560
Because they watched or read it before they were consumed by ideology and now they make things up to make it fit their beliefs
What /pol/ considers redpilled is also affected by this

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>>82301560
>why LOTR is so massively popular on places like tumblr and with counterculture leftwingers
Is it? If anything, it's massively popular among right wingers in Europe, especially in the '60s

>>82297981
You probably thought that was funny when you posted it.

>>82301691
*'70s

>>82297098
>60 years
Absolutely false, more like 17 years. Frodo and Sam were not father and son, they were master and servant. Aristocrat and prole. Sam is simple and always says 'Mister' or 'Master' Frodo, just like a good pleb should.

>>82301691
It was popular with counter-culture leftwingers because of its idealism, it's appeal to a more 'natural' lifestyle and its harsh critique of industrialism. Possibly also because of all the weed-smoking.

It was popular with neo-nazi norse pagans because of a shared fascination of norse mythology and it's accidental call for the white men of the west to unite in the face of an invasion by evil easterners.

I don't know what Tolkien thought of the hippies but I know he hated the fuck out of the neo-nazis and thought they were defiling norse mythology.

>>82301917
The right-wing crowd I'm talking about is less pagan skinheads (which came to mainland Europe much later), and more Evola-lite antimodernists which actually shared a lot with Tolkien in terms of ideas

>>82302113
Oh, learn something new every day.

I tried googling the "campo hobbit" thing but all I got was italian websites.

>>82298355

top keke

>>82299008
I did when I was a kid. I'll read them the next time I read the books though.

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Reminder that this is the definitive version of The Hobbit and turns them from 3 shit films into a serviceable 7.5/10

>>82296813
This looks like a post from a /fa thread.

>>82302697
Fan edit or something?

>>82299176
>>82299402
LotR also had a sense of passion and camaraderie that was definitely missing from The Hobbit. With LotR you could tell everyone involved knew it was something special and tried their absolute best to make it great. The Hobbit had very little of that spirit behind it.

>>82296464
>>82296483
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iCP256Zjmmw

>>82297505
WOW THAT'S 101% HETEROSEXUAL OF YOU!!

>>82298449
The ents helped at Helm's Depp dummy.

>>82303573
Deep*

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Will Mr Trump stop (((Sauron))) the manipulator and his army of SHITSKINS hell bent on destroying the white Western nations of men?

Will the Japanese Elves save us in our time of need Mr frodo?

>>82298222
>they began to think it queer"

Did they really think he was gay?

>>82303609
>lmao liberals are so uncultured and no nothing about history, they can only compare Trump to characters in popular normie films, what retards XD
>btw did you guys notice that Trump is like Aragorn, and Sauron is like Hillary and maybe Merkel, and the armies of Mordor like liberals and Mordor itself is the EU? Look how smart and cultured I am to make such a powerful and accurate comparison!

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>>82299613
No it isn't... this is!

>>82303683
Did you really have to make that zero effort joke, anon? Be better.

>>82299008
>it's another 10 pages of italic script

>>82299511
we now live in a time where viewers have to edit movies themselves

>>82300120
Is it paranormal?

https://youtu.be/w1jPnm33Pkk

>>82296813
They wanted to portray the hobbits as heros some how

>>82302697
Is it an edit that tries way too hard to be book accurate rather than just fixing the pacing problems of the films?

>>82304588
Pretty much.

>>82304622
Stupid. Every "definitive" fan edit tries to cut Azog or the lady elf or Legolas when the narrative just doesn't flow as well without them. I get that their implementation was shitty but if you actually put them in the right spots and shave down some screen time you could make them work. My friend was actually working on something like this and he had planned to space the Azog flashback introduction and the reveal that he was alive further apart rather than happening right after one another. That sounded like a good idea but tough to find where to do it. Maybe I should check in with him.

>>82298065
>>82298208
yeah there's a scene like this in the 60s Spartacus movie.

>>82303801
They don't have to per se. It's a waste of time desu. Less of a public service and more of a passive aggressive way to insult movie makers.

>>82304866
Hell. there's a scene like it in Raiders of the Lost Ark.

https://youtu.be/GMMCz07zfeA

>>82302113
In most fanbases, there tended to be a counter-culture left-wing undercurrent in the decades after it was published.

It is because of the anti-war, anti-industrialisation vibes to Tolkien's work. It is unfortunate that traditionalists and other forms of conservatives have less emphasis on the tree-hugging, peace-loving attitudes that used to be so prominent in their camp.

>>82297098
I cannot understand if I am more mad for you making shit up, or for people (inb4 samefagging) falling for it.

>>82297098
This is the wrongest post of all time but of course redditors eat it up because they are THIS insecure about not having read the books

>>82301642
>The second is that it's just a great series which transcends political divides.
True and has some ecologist aspects that part of the left loves.

>>82301917
He actively disliked hippies. He was by all means traditional, right wing and catholic. There was a story of a couple long-hairs showing up at his door to tell him how much they loved LOTR and what fans they were. Tolkien slammed the door in their faces.

As it was mentioned the romanticism and naturalism appealed to the counter-culture movements

>>82304727
There is nothing bad in Azog, Legolas, Tauriel, the Council or Radagast. Is their implementation (in a less extent of Azog) that was fucking terrible.

- Legoland made sense being there
- Tauriel was suish but not more than a glorfindel in the book. Less justified, but she is not the protagonist. Less focus and is ok
- Azog was a cool guy, just too big. He is special, that's ok, but the other orks had the Uruk-hai becoming pointless. Better Worgs.
- the council was cool but the last battle is literally a videogame and is written like shit
- Radagast being there was fair was awesome but I would have preferred a distant druid archetype

And in all of this, we lost Beorn. Sad.

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For real though, what was the tax policy of the court of Aragorn, King Elessar Telcontar?

>>82307440
Sing and you don't have to pay. It's in the Silmarillion