10 years later and still the best capeshit of all time.

>inb4 reddit
but actually op is entirely correct
Spiderman will always have a place in my heart though

I wish Heath Ledger smiled more, and smacked his lips less. Other then that it's one of my favorite super hero movies.

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Well, best DC capeshit, but I'd say this is on the same level.

>>82275804
I also didnt like the lip smacking/lip licking.

>>82275935
Too bad it lacks Nolan's aesthetics.

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>>82275725
Logan

the blu-ray transfer is so bad that i mistakenly think it's a poor film now

>>82275803
But he's not. The only reason people say it's the best capeshit is because it tries not to be capeshit, resulting in one of the most mediocre, pretentious crime dramas ever made, but since it's accessible (more-so than something like LA Confidential or Heat) and hides under the guise of capeshit, people think it's a masterpiece. The only movie that actually managed to pull off capeshit properly without trying to be something else was>>82275935

>>82275964
Nolan fucked up so bad by making Gotham look all normal, it was perfect in Begins.

What are your top five capeshit movies?

>>82275965
is garbage

>>82276191
Spiderman 1
Spiderman 2
Batman Begins
Superman the movie
Ang Lee's Hulk

>>82276191
The Dak Knight
Iron Man
Spider-Man 1
Birdman
Logan

>>82276249
Yeah TDK is.

TMC

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That's 100% arguable, OP. Regardless of that I want to touch on a subject here. Remember how TDK came out and everybody was saying it was a game changer and then every superhero movie would try to follow its ways? It's funny how it didn't quite turn out like that.

Nowadays I see it would have been better if it did. I'm not talking about the tone. The reason why these new DC films are failing is because they want to be dark and gritty and "realistic" just because, but they're forgetting the fact that what made TDK what it was was the writing and the acting.

After TDK I along with everybody else thought that now comic book movies would stop always being idiotic and stupid and would get a little more interesting and explore their characters better and have better themes. I thought Iron Man 2 would touch on Tony Starks alcoholism in a serious interesting way, for example. We were wrong. As a matter of fact they are even more stupid than they were shortly before TDK came out. A movie like Spider-Man 2, although lighthearted and silly, is miles above any of the formulaic pathetic stuff that the MCU has put out (Hello, Ant-Man) minus The Avengers, maybe.

It's a shame that TDK is such a great movie but it wasn't the game changer that everybody thought it would be. Most people look at it and try to follow it simply by making their movies dark, completely missing the point. TDK is a hell of a thriller that doesn't let you breathe and keeps you interested literally from the first shot (Joker standing on the street before the heist) to the last one (Batman escaping the police). It's all about the characters, philosophical and moral dilemmas, non-stoping actiong and character development. Then we have shit like the MCU and these shitty dark DC movies that are so fucking awfully done.

I wish The Dark Knight could have been more influentional than it turned out to be. It just influenced studios in a bad way (WE NEED TO GET DARK) instead of a better way (we need to get deeper).

>>82276191
Watchmen
Spiderman
Spiderman 2
X-Men First Class
Iron Man 3

>>82276110
this. the narrows looked really cool, as did all the aerial shots where it it seemed like a gigantic megacity stretching out in all directions. Then it's just Chicago in TDK and New York in TDKR

>>82275725
TDK is the objective best. Everything else is just memes an contrarians. Fuck off and appreciate brilliance for once. And if you don't, just admit you have shit taste and move on.

>IMDb 9.0
>RT 94%
>Mc 82
>Oscar winning performance

>>82275965
Logan is arguably the best since. But for me The Dark Knight is number one still.

Raimi's Spider-Man 2 is true cape-kino. But TDK is second best.

>>82276191
The Dark Knight
Logan
Batman Begins
The Avengers
Captain America: The Winter Soldier

Do animated films count? Cus The Dark Knight Returns bitch slaps these movies.

>>82276110
That's what happens when you shot on location for the sequel. TDKR was clearly New York too.

The best capekino of all time is still Watchmen, though.

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>>82275725
>10 years later

>>82276191
hellboy 2,
tdk
spiderman 1,2
batman returns
watchmen

>>82276191
Spiderman 2
The Dark Knight
Watchmen
Dredd
Batman Begins

>>82276658
>Not mask of the Phantasm
>Not Under the Red Hood

>>82276908
They're both pretty good, but I love the old, bitter Bruce.

>>82276658
I thought Batman vs Robin was prettt sweet.

is Assault on Arkham any good? I've just remembered I have the DVD but never watched it.

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>>82275725
>2007 was 10 years ago
>it's been 3 years since the "2007 was 7 years ago" meme
i don't want to live

>>82276999
it's worth watching alright, it's better than the actual Suicide Squad movie

>>82277002
I had a gf. She loved me. I was happy


she left me. Didn't got a gf since then

no matter what you think about it, capeshit wouldn't be as important as it is if it wasn't for TDK

which is not a good thing but yeah

>>82276999
I enjoyed it. It's pretty much what Suicide squad should of been.

>>82276191
>Capekino
• Watchmen
• Dark Knight
• Spiderman 2
• Winter Soldier
• Iron Man

>>82276703
>>82276475
>clearly NY in TDKR
>its actually clearly pittsburgh

fucking NEETS who've never left their hometown

>>82277096
are you retarded money talks and spiderman 2 broke loads of box office records

>>82277238
>>82276703
>>82276475
>>82276110
Should've made it look like Gotham in the Arkham games

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>>82275725
Umm try again sweetie

>>82276475
The actual Arkham Asylum in Begins is what the whole of Gotham should've looked like

>>82277279
so did avenger and many others flicks I never bothered watching. The point still stands that THE capeshit that changed the game was TDK. Spiderman 2 was just an improvement on Spiderman 1 in a lot of people's mind.

>>82277238
Dude fucking watch the movie again. The scene where the bombs are blowing up is CLEARLY Manhattan. Yes they shot in pittsburg too but that doesn't nullify my point.

>>82276999
Yeah it's pretty awesome.

>>82276094
its better than heat though

Raimi's trilogy had the emotional attachment to characters that The Dark Knight did not. The Dark Knight's philosophy between the Joker and Batman is what made it so interesting. They are both the best of capeshit.

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>>82277238
also proof

>>82276191
1. First 6 Minutes of TDK Rises
2. TDK
3. Spiderman 1
4. Spiderman 2
5. haven't really watched any other capekino but probably Hellboy, then again i didnt watched it.

>>82277470
Memes aside I liked Bane more than Joker in Nolan's films.

>>82275725
>>82275935
Good answers.

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who here saw TDK in theaters on release night and hasn't watched it since?

>future generations of newfags will never know what its like to see kino in theaters

>>82277540
>1. First 6 Minutes of TDK Rises

BANE?

>>82277002
>last year was 40 years ago

>>82277671
>tomorrow was yesterday

>>82275725
But the original spiderman and xmen trilogies exist?

>>82275965
Take away the gore and it's literally one of the worst xmen movies. Thankfully there's lot of gore and it's rad

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>>82275725
I always thought capeshit meant superhero movie, but if Nolan's batman counts then I guess this does as well and takes the cake.

Also does anyone know where I can watch the first 29 movies?

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>>82277464
>its better than heat though

Fuck are you on mate? Heat conveyed the whole 'two sides of the same coin/cat and mouse' theme with twice the effect and half the expository, on-the-nose dialogue. This one image from Heat has more emotion and resonance than anything in the Dark Knight

>>82276191
>super
>defendor
>kick ass
>kick ass 2
>the fate of the furious

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>>82276110
He forgot about the monorail in the sequels. Big fucking mistake.

>>82276191
Batman Begins
Spider-Man
Spider-Man 2
X-Men
X-Men 2

>>82278021
Didn't Gordon blow it up and kill a bunch of hobos?

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>>82275725
Excuse me

>>82276094
Finally someone said it. Capeshit aside The Dark Knight is a mediocre, lazily written crime drama. Capeshit not aside, it's the best superhero movie in terms of being grounded.

>>82275935
Nope not at all. It was very well cast though.

Actually now that I think about it, it is very well done. But it's not on the level of tdk or batman begins.

>>82278021
gotham was unrecognizable among the trilogy. It actually looked cool and Gothic in Begins, but after that it just looked like a generic city backdrop. Considering how the city is supposed to be a character in and of itself, this is a major fuckup. It's like if the Cabin in Evil Dead 2, somehow became modernistic between movies

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>>82278096
That was just one pillar on one rail. The other rails weren't affected at all.

>>82276191
The Dark Knight
Kick-Ass
Logan
The Avengers
Blade

>>82278253
>Gotham city
>has a Gothic art style
Mind status: BLOWN

>>82276703
Funny enough, TDKR was filmed in Pittsburgh.

>>82276191
The Dark Knight
Spider-Man 2
X-Men: First Class
Batman (1989)
The Incredibles

>>82275965
Literally propaganda

>>82278363
Take off Blade, add Spideman and your list is perfecto

>>82278665
You wouldn't be able to tell from TDK and Rises

1. TDK
2. Spiderman 2
3. V for Vendetta
4. Watchmen
5. X2
6. Batman Returns
7. Sin City
8. Batman Begins
9. Dick Tracy
10. Rocketeer

>>82277238
try watching it again you utter retard

>>82278942
He's right though. Rises was primarily filmed in Pittsburgh with only a few scenes in New York and Los Angeles locations.

>>82276191
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
X-Men Origins: Wolverine
The Punisher
Thor
Iron Man

I don't think bad effects is a valid reason for disliking Origins, they don't matter that much, and they weren't as bad as the workprint. If you asked me this question in 2000 I'd say:

Blade
Flash Gordon
Danger: Diabolik
Judge Dredd
Barbarella

And none of them were known for their great effects.

>>82275965
A runner up.

The Nolan trilogy hasn't held up that well in my opinion. The bland production design, the shitty fight scenes, the half baked philosophising, the endless expostion, the weirdly asexual take on the genre. Every other director understands that Batman is about a rich pervert and his nocturnal proclivities, Nolan turns him into some neutered thought experiment about ethics and responsibility and blahblahblah.

>>82278895
Dick Tracy was alright but was very clearly trying to be Tim Burton's Batman without Tim Burton.

>>82279155
Yeah, other than Batman Begins on occasion, I can't say I have much interest in rewatching them.

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t-ten years
a decade

The dialogue in the dark knight is the most lazily written cringe inducing dribble. Real people don't talk like that, even in a capeshit universe, people don't talk like that. The direction of the dialogue makes it even worse.

>>82279181
you only say that because Elfman scored both flicks

>>82275964
Raimi's style is better. Nolan's "aesthetics" are gritty realism (in a comic book movie). Raimi's Spiderman knows what it is and isn't ashamed of it.

>>82279310
Nah. The heavily stylized look is very Burton.

>>82279379
Agreed. Raimi wasn't afraid to be goofy and playful and his movies have aged better as a result.

>>82276191
BvS
TDK
Spiderman 2
Hellboy 2
MoS

Man, I remember being so excited to go see it.

>>82276191
The Dark Knight
Spider-Man 2
Hulk (2003)
Superman: The Movie
Iron Man

>>82279428
Hellboy 2 is criminally underrated. It was 2008's best superhero movie as far as I'm concerned.

>>82279379
>Nolan's "aesthetics" are gritty realism (in a comic book movie)

His urban realism shit is so boring, give me some Burton style gothic bullshit any day.

>>82279521
True. If you watch Burton's Batman movies and pay attention to the set design, you really come to understand how much work went into creating that world and it's very impressive. Couple it with Elfman's fitting scores and it works extremely well.

>>82279621
Burton really understood the interesting parts of Batman in a way that Nolan doesn't. Like in this exchange he has with the Penguin in Batman Returns.

>The Penguin: You're just jealous, because I'm a genuine freak and you have to wear a mask!
>Batman: You might be right.

>>82279696
>tfw we never got to see Billy Dee as Two-Face

>>82276191
Logan
TDK
Spider-Man 2
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Guardians of the Galaxy

I'd place Unbreakable in #3 but it's barely capeshit and it's not based on a comic book

>>82279696
Looking back I also think Christian Bale was miscast. He's too much of an intense, self serious actor.

>>82276463
Even DKR failed to get dark and gritty right and it was the direct sequel. It seems to be something hard to do right.

>>82275725
>still the best
Not when this scene exists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkjrbusnTuo

It's not even as good as Batman Begins

Nolan isn't as insightful as he thinks he is. His philosophical shtick is really bad

Movie gets worse every time I watch it

TDKR is unwatchable garbage though.

>>82279752
Once heard it described that Bale played Batman as a guy who was ashamed to be wearing the Batsuit, whereas Affleck plays him as a guy embarrassed to be having so much fun in the Batsuit.

>>82279847
Begins captured the atmosphere of Gotham, dark and you actually felt like it was crime-ridden.

Plus, Scarecrow and Ra's Al Ghul? Awesome.

>>82276191
The Dark Knight
Logan
Watchmen
Super
Defendor

Defendor was some straight "The Sound And The Fury" levels of feels.

>>82279878
Yeah that's sounds about right. Bale never seemed comfortable in the role but seemed to enjoy working with Nolan.

>>82279929
You mean Razal Ghoul?

>>82279929
Yeah that movie had like steaming gutters, dank tenements, creepy asylum. TDK on the other hand is clearly just boring old Chicago or whatever.

>>82280025
That pronunciation bugged me like crazy.

I really hope Scarecrow turns up in Batfleck universe, I want a half-superhero, half-horror Batman film.

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>>82275725
there's no way to prove it, but I totally and unironically agree, all Batman memes aside.

>>82278746
>Take off Blade
>but keep avengers
>but keep kickass
the fuck is worng with ypu nigga

Why so many people picks Spiderman 2 as one of the best, if not the best superhero movies out there? Even people outside the site thinks like that.
I'm not saying it's bad or I don't like it, mind you, but I'm genuinely curious on the reasons it's considered outstanding over the rest.

>>82280241
The fights are amazing, and the story actually has feeling, the scenes with Aunt May make you feel as sympathetic to her as Peter must.

Plus, the cast and soundtrack and spot on.

>>82275935
what makes Spidey 2 better than the first Spidey movie?

>>82277418
>>82278942
>herf derf I'm completely retarded
yeah ask anyone who's ever been to the city of pittsburgh. You can pick out the streets of oakland and central downtown.

>pittsburg
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>>82280353
Peter Parker has a lot more problems in 2, which adds more drama (and it's well done drama), and Doc Ock is less cheesy and more sympathetic than the Green Goblin.

>>82280353
I always liked Doc Ock more than Green Goblin mostly, not to say that GG wasn't a great villain.

The struggle of whether or not Peter wants to be Spiderman is a good plot too.

>>82280423
I liked cheesy Green Goblin.

The fact that Hob goblin didn't show up (Properly anyway) is sad.

I liked that Web of Shadows used the movie aesthetic.

>>82280423
They also had gotten the origin stuff out of the way and Raimi and the cast were firing on all cylinders.

>>82280353
nothing, its in reality worse.

>>82280502
I liked him too, but it's just objectively better when the villain is at least somewhat sympathetic. Green Goblin was fun. Doc Ock was more serious.

>>82280529
Spider-Man 2 is better than the first one just by virtue of not having some weird out of time Macy Gray bullshit. Same is true of Burton's Batman films, first one is almost painfully 1989, second one is timeless.

The best capeshit is the Netflix Daredevil, if we're counting any form of it.

the dark knight is one of the worst movies i've ever seen. it's completely boring and nolan is a hack director

>>82280642
At least Batman 89 used Prince's music. He's more timeless than Macy Gray, but then again Macy Gray is only in Spiderman for like 20 seconds, whereas they used at least 3 minutes of Prince music in Batman.

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>>82280707

>>82276191
Superman I
Superman II
The Dark Knight
Batman Begins
Winter Soldier (or Dredd, can't decide)

>>82281065
Dredd, you fool.

>>82276360
>birdman

>>82275725
Literally dead fucking wrong. The whole end of the movie didnt make sense. It was bvs teir bad.

Batman begins is legitimately a great movie. The other 2 are garbage.

>>82281430
I'll agree with Begins being the best, and Rises being shit, but TDK is undeniably amazing, and the ending being shit doesn't ruin how good the rest was.

>>82276191
Batman Begins
X-Men: Days of Future Past
The Avengers
Iron Man 1
Spider-Man 2

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>>82275725
>best capshit of all time
For you

>>82280353
the "Raindrops keep falling on my head scene"

>>82282577
That and this line from Dr. Ocktavius

>If you keep something as complicated as love stored up inside, it can make you sick

This line didn't mean anything to me until it actually happened. It's absolutely true.

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What do you guys think of Captain America: The First Avenger? It's one of my favorite avenger movies (along side Iron Man 1) for many reasons. People always say "oh he's just a roided up guy, not a real superhero", but that's not his genius. The core of the character is his unshakable morals and ideals. This is maintained throughout the Avengers movies. Also the romance between Cap and Peggy was great, and the bittersweet ending was imo the best ending of a superhero movie ever.

>>82282991
this anon is correct

>>82276249
Agreed, Logan was shit past the halfway mark I almost left the theater. Don't get me started on Deadpool though...where I legit left the theater.

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>>82275725

Do u think people would blow it so hard if it weren't for heat legends death?

>>82275725
Of the 98 theatrically-released capeshit films I've seen, I have TDK at number 10.

>>82280348
>>82280241
I have no idea why people adore the Spider-Man movies so much. Rami's direction is so campy I can't stomach it. Tobey, Dunst, and Franco are horribly cast and the pacing is genuinely slow. I would happily take Nolan any day.

>>82276463
>The reason why these new DC films are failing is because they want to be dark and gritty and "realistic" just because, but they're forgetting the fact that what made TDK what it was was the writing and the acting.
It's funny because this is exactly what happened to comics in the 90's when they were trying to emulate stuff like Watchmen and The Dark Knight Returns by imitating the grittiness but not having any competence to write the stories.

>>82275965

absolute trash movie

>>82286432
TDK sure is.

>>82286449

I wouldn't go so far as to call TDK trash, it's certainly better than Logan though.

>>82275725
Batman Begins is better.

>>82286477
TDKR > TDK

>>82275725
The dark knight is a shitty reddit meme for edgy fedora faggots.

>>82284799
maybe even harder, if he had been in TDKR instead of Bane. You've got to admit, The Joker was one hell of a villain.

>>82286797
DUDE NIHILISM LMAO

>>82286797
Edgelord as fuck.

Bane > Joker

>>82286841
>>82286845
my god you people are cynical. Nobody said Bane wasn't great (for you) but the Joker was a good villain in that movie, objectively mirrored the one in the comics, yes?

>>82286931
> objectively mirrored the one in the comics, yes?
1. Don't use words you don't know the meaning of (objectively, mirrored)
2. Don't type like a faggot (yes?)

>>82286994
wow...what an asshole

>>82275935
Spider-Man 2 is overrated dogshit

>copious CGI fighting
>Dock Ock's motivations make no sense
>Peter and MJ playing relationship chicken
>Peter losing his powers because he doesn't want to be Spiderman or some shit
>non-stop dramatic dialogue between characters
>Ock goes to question Peter about Spiderman's whereabouts, throws a car at him first

>>82286994

You sound like you have a dozen corn cobs stuck in your ass.

>>82287808
That's a lot of cobs.

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>>82275725
Nope