How did they mess up The Joker and DC films?

>>82253866
Upvoted

>>82253866
where is the upvote button for discussions?

There's another thread I posted, can't delete. Sorry folks, did not understand that everything has to be approved now and thought it was some bug.

So, Affleck could have directed Batman with Brolin as the older Batman about to take on Deathstroke after he kills someone Batman couldn't save. Cut back and forth from Jake's younger Batman and Robin - Jason Todd (Alden Ehrenreich) with (Taron Egerton) as Tim Drake, Joker's origin how it ties to Brolin's Batman (the criminals Joker was used as a patsy by - were underlings for the Court of Owls who are now higher-up members). Joker finds this out and is out to get revenge, Deathstroke hired by Oswald to kill Batman so he can gain favour and join the elite Court of Owls. Shit gets real. A genuine detective story almost like LA Confidential, just with more Batman... AND BATMAN NEVER KILLS. Batman apprehends the Joker as Deathstroke turns on Oswald Cobblepot, Oswald is killed by the Talons for failing them. Two years later, Superman Vs. Zod - Bruce Wayne catches it on television and gets onto a plane there (Gotham and Metropolis are not sister cities - they are like New York and Chicago)

Batman V Superman - Luthor should have honestly been in this as the real Luthor who is about 49, his company is into all sorts of shit. Possibly an extended member of the Court of Owls, someone with a lot of political power but who is actually very diplomatic, clear and you could actually see him as a potential Presidential candidate due to his magnetism. Bring in Daniel-Day Lewis for the part and it makes Batman V Superman more epic. Like a legitimate contender to MCU but more importantly, a really good film.

No Doomsday. Way too early. If they're going to team up against the introduction of Darksied's forces who are attracted to Krypton then Earth due to the cosmic waves reaching Darksied himself with Steppenwolf leading the charge. Nightmares sequences. A possible evil Superman? A rogue Batman who DOES kill now. Yeah.

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>Woman of Wonder

>>82253866
The reason they messed up the Joker was he was trying too hard to be "edgy". I don't blame Leto actually, given the right direction he would have made a fine joker (but not the best). But it was pathetic with the gold cap teeth and all the tattoos, remove those and it would have gone a long way to making it less rubbish. And if they're going to make Batman old, then a Jack Nicholson type Joker would have made way more sense when a young, hip, "gangster" type joker to appeal to the kids

>>82253866
Ledger shadow is just too big, same thing with Bale. They needed to break away from that. Leto's Joker and especially Harley Quinn were cultural hits so they did fine, the movie had a lot of issues but their portrayal wasn't one of them

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>>82255985
>the gold cap teeth
That's not what they are, not that the Joker shouldn't have fashionable grills

>>82253866
>implying Leto was a bad Joker
>implying Leto even got to play the Joker

If they just took the stupid tattoos off he would have looked as good as he acted, but he had like half a scene.

>>82254782

What I'd do with Justice League is wait until
>Flash
>Wonder Woman

And introduce Aquaman into JL (because people need to see the brilliant casting of Jason Momoa first to buy into an Aquaman film).

Cyborg unfortunately looks fucking terrible and I'd just dump Synder from all of this and cut out all the fucking CGI, and use real locations and real prosthetics mixed with green socks. For Cyborg, I'd have Lex having already establishing artificially intelligent robotic servants to some degree in Batman V Superman, and have Cyborg with a body like that but Stone alters it to keep his son alive, the body itself is like a Luthor proto-type (a military AI killing machine and is pretty good introduction to Braniac into being born someday through Luthor's fucking with AI and Braniac taking over Cyborg in future films).

There has to be three Justice League films

>Justice League sets up Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Cyborg, Aquaman and Flash together. Earth is like sending out massive signals which hit other galaxies light years away, Darksied begins sending his pawn para-demons out and it's a game of chess. After Steppenwolf is defeated by Superman, Darksied sends him out to a distant planet to see how their "experiment" is doing. Justice League defeat the pawn para-demons. We then see Steppenwolf standing over one of their "scientists" or whatever the fuck he is catching up on some shit, a humanoid is born and keeps getting slaughtered over and over (this has been happening for nearly half a million years), as Darkseid then uses his second tier para-demons who are tech-based and do some kino shit with Zod's ship by putting one of Luthor's AI servants in there with a human who is sacrificed by the COURT OF OWLS who worship Darksied. So Darksied is pretty much the devil confirmed. Braniac is created and knows everything, about everyone, which sort of backfires into Darksied's face as he takes over shit, anything technology based but Darksied's like "cool".

>>82256312

He was great but looked terrible. Now we are stuck with this stupid design for what? The next 5 years?

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>Injustice 2 Joker looks better than the cinematic universe Joker

What went wrong?

>>82256546
>>Injustice 2 Joker looks better

Stopped reading there