Is this literally just propaganda

>le being nice and good is bad meme
take your meds

>>82182741
You are thinking too much, go to bed.

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>>82182810
>>82182817
DRMPH

Obviously. How much of it is just people believing what they say, and how much is just the intent of pushing an agenda, is hard to determine. The net result is the same.

>>82182810
>>82182817
This. FUCK TRUMP AND FUCK WHITE PEOPLE

>>82182810
>be nice and good is the message
take yours. you're delusional

>>82182741
Climate change is simply a matter of opinion!

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>>82182810
>>82182817

FLAAL FUFFF

>>82182903
It's a real thing that's exploited for political agendas.

>>82182899
>le "yes goy don't be tolerant, instead just lash out like a true albino monkey you are" meme

>>82182999
>be tolerant is the message
take your meds

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-YchwrdPw0

Who will put him out of his misery?

>>82182903
What's the best solution to climate change? I suggest that the most effective solution would be to deindustrialize the world. Take all our machines and throw them into the ocean. Every last one.

Ah, but while that would work, that's not a politically tenable solution, is it? I suggest then that the handling of this issue is less about science and more about politics. Finding a compromise between technically correct solutions and politically acceptable solutions is the domain of politics, not science.

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This show had no science whatsoever.
For his gender episode I wish he focused more on legitimate trans people and gender dysphoria. Trans people's lives are living hell because they hate their real body meanwhile with non binary they can identify as whatever they want without surgery. I don't hate non binary people but with a long list like this it's really hard to take seriously. This show has an Indian guy doing terrible standup, a dude getting a free trip to South Korea to talk about a female KPop artist with short hair, Ice Cream gay conversion, and a girl singing about her vagina. No science in this show aside from a global warming circle jerk where Nye calls climate change deniers idiots and does nothing to persuade them to care about the environment. This show was a major disappointment and I totally understand if it made people cancel Netflix.

>>82183053
what is the message then?

>>82183585
let others dictate you

>>82182741
Literally everything on tv is propaganda. It's a hard pill to swallow, but that's part of growing up. Every rich asshole out there wants to shove their worldview up your throat.

>>82182741
>I CAN BELEEV IN FUNOUNDED BULLSHIT IF I WANT TO!!! MUH CTR EVEN THOUGH THE ELECTION WAS 6 MONTHS AGO!!! MUH 1984 EVEN THOUGH WE'VE DRIVEN THAT SO FAR INTO THE GROUND IT'S TOTALLY MEANINGLESS!!!

>>82183651
>dictate
like Hitler?

>>82182999
>be tolerant
Tolerant to what? Tolerant to giving kids hormones? Tolerant to cutting kids dicks and letting jews suck on them? Why are you tolerant to those things? Sounds like you shouldn't be.

>>82182810
>science show
>be nice to each other message
there's the fucking problem.

>>82182741
>but every other episode is about Correcting The Record ™
No, it isn't. Let this faggot meme die.

>>82183794
yes, like all rulers or wouldbe rulers

GIVE HANDJOBS TO STRANGERS ITS SCIENCE

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>>82183794
Hitler dictated better social policies though.

>>82183713
Wow you really won me over with your compelling argument.

>>82183816
It is advantageous to our species to be egalitarian and altruistic. Making an argument otherwise makes you look like a Downs suffering idiot.

>>82182865
>>82182995
>>82182841
>trumplings are this easy to trigger

>>82183889
That game is fucking weird.

>>82183898
BECAUSE MY SEX JUNK IS OH OH OH

>>82183924
>lel ur triggered even though there are just as many triggered libruls in this thread XD

>>82183889
>"better social policies"
>over extend your military
>pool millions into extravagant military and aesthetic problems
>completely ignore economic issues in favor of illusions
>systematically destroy your own population
You aren't too bright if you think Hitler had any real policy that worked.

>>82183929
You tell 'em gurl. That's jut SCIENCE!

>>82183893
it's about as compelling as any of the arguments against the show, which are never any specific refutations of points the show has made, but instead just implying that the whole show is inherently wrong

>>82183951
>trumplings are THIS easy to trigger

>>82183951
>just as many triggered libruls in this thread XD
Liberals don't make these threads.

>>82182741
>(((Soros))) buys 40% of Netflix shares
>they start making shit like this

What a coincidence

>>82183971
>show saying first world countries should have less children and make china like policies is right

>>82183962
*projects
Not problems

>>82183898
Isn't "egalitarian" the word all the anti-feminist neckbeards use?

>>82183898
>It is advantageous to our species to be egalitarian and altruistic
t. Lenin

It's advantageous to our species for everyone to be a superhuman. We're not though. We're a bunch of greedy cunts and don't tell me you're not. Go on and be altruistic, move to Congo and give away you house to some african guy.

>>82183898
>you're dumb if you don't agree with me politically
A tip of my hat to you, epic gentleman. I fucking love science too.

>>82183990
>they also coincidentally disable the old rating system before all this
Hmm

>>82183971
because the show doesn't present 'arguments.' it espouses value judgements i.e. opinions, which are intrinsically impossible to 'refute'

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>>82183962
Ignoring aesthetic problems is how we end up with an ugly world not worth living in. You can thank rising levels of depression, suicide and obesity for the ugly unaesthetic world we've created "ironically".

>>82184004
oh hey look, you're doing exactly what i described
>>82184041
then maybe you should stop getting triggered over other people having different opinions lol

>>82184032
First off, egalitarianism is not a political belief. Secondly, regardless of what end of the spectrum, there are absolutely flat out wrong political beliefs or beliefs informed by politics. I'm not quite sure what your argument is.

>>82182741
everything on american television is propaganda

wtf!!! this is bullshit!!! fucking alt-left politics!!! I hate libcucks!!! "Im a cuck and I voted for obama" hahaha fucking retards!!!

I hope fucking Sam Hyde, Gavin Mcinnes and Alex Jones fucking nuke this kyke nigger!!!

Sieg Heil to all my alt-right bro's on /tv/

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>>82182741

>>82184058
this wasn't a serious post was it?

>>82184029
Nice strawman argument to justify you probably being a shitty faggot.

>>82184063
so they're allowed to espouse their opinions but others aren't allowed to respond? makes you think

>>82184041
The gender stuff is more sociology than science Tbh

>>82184063
yes anon im pretty sure every politician, economist and what not is wrong and that one guy is right

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I don't really care if the show is "leftist propaganda" or not, but its clear that the people who watch this are the same normalfags who pretend to like science

>>82184107
>aesthetics don't matter
Careful with that edge.

>>82184063
You seem pretty triggered yourself Tbh

>>82183990
He bought minor stock in the parent company and this show would have already been filmed months ago, before he bought it. It's sort of a reach here...

Shows aren't magic. They don't get made in a day.

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>>82184081
>egalitarianism is not a political belief
Stopped reading there.

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>>82183898
>It is advantageous to our species to be egalitarian and altruistic
>Therefore, that's the reason you have to pay a 50% income tax

For anyone wondering, that's where this guy was going.

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stop procreating

>>82183898

>It is advantageous to our species to be egalitarian and altruistic.

meanwhile 1 in 200 men are direct descendants of Ghengis Khan, the most brutal conqueror in human history

being nice to other groups just leaves you open to exploitation and replacement. you should ask the native Americans how it went for them when they helped European settlers survive through their first winters.

>>82184111
>strawman argument
How is that a strawman argument? You're saying we should be altruistic. Tell me, are you altruistic? What % of your income do you donate? What's that, you don't have an income? Oh I see, I see now.

>>82182741
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCdk9fDE8zA

>>82184112
>but others aren't allowed to respond
lol everything is muh free speech with you dipshits. respond all you want, you'll just rightfully be called out for being whiny about it and not presenting any real counterpoints.
>>82184134
oh hey look, you're doing the thing i described again
>>82184152
no u

>>82184004
>crowded first and second world nations, who can afford not to have more children, should just overpopulate instead of poor third worlds that can't handle or afford it.
?

>>82184101
>not an argument
All I see in this thread from liberals ins pure condescension. It's no wonder you guys lost the election when you think that calling everyone you disagrees with you a bunch of inbred hicks is a good political strategy.

>>82184156
But it isn't...

>>82184212
>can afford
is that why people are trying their hardest to raise their birthrates

>>82184171
That is literally another strawman.

>>82184225
>All I see in this thread from liberals ins pure condescension
where as you guys have been nothing but respectful lol did you forget what thread you're posting in?

>>82183962

>Germans create the Weimar republic after world war 1

>the average German hates it and grows weary

>Hitler wins the election promising to fix all these problems

>turns shitty Weimar Germany into a world superpower

>Germany is crushed

>entire world then slowly adopts Weimar culture

>???

>>82184170
Oh wtf I hate all inmigrants then! You just convinced me to move to an island and genetically box off my family!

>>82184285
Are you the strawman? Because I'm just asking you questions that you can't seem to answer. If you're a strawman, don't blame me.

>>82184257
>believing in /pol/ lies

>>82184328
worked really well for iceland, now look at south america

>>82182741
For fucks sake...

JUST

DON'T

WATCH IT

No one is forcing you to watch this fucking show. There's like 3 to 5 threads up, minimum, about this shit every day, all fucking week. Yes, it's shitty. We get it.

Please post about something, anything else.

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>>82184111
>justify you probably being a shitty faggot
I don't care about every case of oppression and injustice in the world. I have no hippie fantasies of a kumbaya Stark Trek utopia. I know I'm a shitty faggot and I don't care.

>>82184196
>lol everything is muh free speech with you dipshits
yes it's called discussion. it's part of how humans communicate
>not presenting any real counterpoints
opinion doesn't warrant "counterpoints"

>>82184328

nice strawman arguments bro.

I just don't like it because of the change of tone from the original, and I don't mean how the original was a kids show and this one isn't, or at least pretends it isn't. The original show was just a guy being really excited about explaining basic science concepts to kids. He wasn't irreplaceable or using his own star power because he hadn't earned any fame yet. Bill Nye Saves The World felt like a lot of it was coasting on Nye's ego and reputation rather than the message. This is even expressed in the title of the show itself. The other thing that really bothered me is that Bill is an old man trying to be cool, but his previous show wasn't shown before a live audience so it could be heavily edited. Editing for flawless comedic timing and having the benefit of multiple takes probably really helped the original show. This show lacks that, and it REALLY shows. The comedy falls flat, and often the studio audience laughs at what seems like inappropriate times, like they don't know what is or isn't a joke but just want to play along.

I'm not disagreeing with the show on a scientific basis, I think climate change and the holocene extinction event are definitely real and bad things, but he's not helping that much by being an uncharismatic, self-pandering fuck who plays to his weaknesses more than his strengths, probably because he doesn't know which is which.

>>82184384
Monkey girl a cutest

>>82182741
DUDE WHITE PEOPLE CANT USE ASIAN INCENSE LMAO

>>82184352
You seem to just not know what a strawman is.

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REMINDER THAT BILL NYE ONLY HAS A BACHELOR DEGREE.

>Doesn't even have a PhD
>Doesn't even have an honours bachelor

>>82184212
First world nations are in no way overcrowded. It's the (SOME) 2nd world and 3rd world nations which are overcrowded. And nobody is telling them to sterilize their women and depopulate because that would be racist genocide.

>inb4 superpower by 2020

>>82184385
free speech has nothing to do with being laughed at in a discussion, it means the government can't make laws against what you say
>opinion doesn't warrant "counterpoints"
you're not fooling anyone with this, we know you just want to be triggered with all of your triggered internet friends without actually having to demonstrate any of the problems with the show

>>82184370
>I informed all my isolationist opinions on immigration based on Iceland, while ignoring actual statistics on immigration benefits in most of the first world.
Just stop getting your news from /pol/

If climate change is such a problem then why don't they call out the chinks and poos that contribute a huge percentage of pollution?

>>82182741
how fucking stupid are trumplrinas

it's ironic. they agree with you

>>82184519
show me the benefits

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>>82184477
>First world nations are in no way overcrowded.
KEK

DUDE GMOS ARE FINE PLEASE LISTEN TO OUR MONSANTO GUEST LMAO

>>82184148

The same idiots who like I Fucking Love Science pages on FB and share the shitty popsci gimmicks but don't pay any attention to the actual science stories.

>>82184484
Laughing at people is not an argument. Thinking otherwise just makes you look foolish.

>>82184552
America.

>>82183829
$0.02 has been deposited into your account.

>>82184561
He's not wrong you dumb retarded faggot

>>82184148
>engineering degree from cornell
How did that happen?
Do they teach something other than tapdancing there? Bill Maher also went to that school.

>>82184484
the show's problem is that it espouses values that some people don't like. it's not complicated

>>82184561
Confirmed for sheltered city dweller.

>>82184561
overpopulation, anywhere, is a fucking myth

>>82184466
>REMINDER THAT BILL NYE ONLY HAS A BACHELOR DEGREE.

and it's in mechanical engineering

>>82184595
>90% white till the 70s
>black cities are in the 50 most dangerous cities in the world
>spic gangs everywhere
yea

>>82184583
calling a show fake and bad and propaganda and refusing to elaborate on how it is any of those things is not an argument. thinking otherwise just makes you look like an idiot

>>82184603
But he is.

>>82182841
I'm beginning to like this meme

>>82182741
DUDE POLITICISED SCIENCE LMAO

DUDE TWO CIS MALES WHITE GUYS TLAKING ABOUT SEX LOL LMAO

>>82184626
Oh, so you are retarded then?

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>>82184321
I think you forgot one very special ingredient.
It was jews pushing literally BLACKED tier interracial pornography on the germans during the 14 years of weimar interracial sex shows, pornography, child prostitution, drugs and transsexuals were "normalized" and everyone protesting it was called a "bigot" and "antisemite", so much that people just said "ok Im a antisemite, what now?" and started throwing jews into ovens.

>>82184667
yes anon america is safer and more first world than iceland or europe

>>82184102
Whoa bill nye is a musician now!?!?

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>>82183261
legitimate trans people and gender dysphoria

>>82184684
No you are right, America is a martial law dystopia...look at all the mad max types running around. It's terrible. Breitbart was right all along!

>>82184725
its objective fact that america is more dangerous than europe, its not even an opinion

>>82184620
Who told you that? Seriously, who?

>>82184702
Yes. People who actually have a mental illness that makes them think that they should have been born in the other gender

>>82183990
>Soros buys 40% of Netflix shares

Is there a reason you keep shilling this lie? Are alt righters really this mentally ill?

>>82184744
>if I make shit up it must be true.

@82184803
ill stop replying to you now

>>82184759
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=043Vw6NEhwI

>>82184780
Look at these threads. Trumpfags are legitimately mentally ill.

WHY CANT THE ENTIRE WORLD TURN INTO AFRICA UGH JUST STOP HAVING KIDS WHITE AND ASIAN PEOPLE

>>82184824
But you keep making shit up with no evidence. Kill yourself.

>>82184841
as opposed to the men having their genitals cut off because they "feel" they're in the wrong body

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>>82184867
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-50-most-violent-cities-in-the-world-2015-1/#-victoria-mexico-had-3391-homicides-per-100000-residents-10

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>>82184834
OH A YOUTUBE VIDEO? WOW!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.news.com.au/technology/science/nasa-study-overpopulation-depleting-resources-and-wealth-distribution/news-story/a23084056dfa2ca2809d9f9b1b7db31e

>>82182741
wrongthought doesn't cause death, it is death
wrongthought doesn't cause death, it is death

>>82184935
You aren't too bright about population densities, right?

>>82184904
>whataboutism

I don't know man, there's something fishy about the fact that I keep seeing people claiming George Soros bought Netflix, even though they've been explained otherwise over and over.

>>82182903
Nobody that matters truely believes that, not even Trump. But they will still say it if they think enough citizens are willing to believe it. It's more about the end result of saying it than actually saying it, if you understand what I'm saying. They understand that climate change exists; of course it does, it always has existed. But they don't want to enable the loud minority that will always find something to yell and scream about anymore than they have too. They understand that these people, if they have it their way, will waste resources trying to "fix" climate change, as if it can be "fixed". So they will do whatever they can to prevent these people from getting too much control. You could argue that they should agree that it does exist and enter into some kind of rehtoric, but the truth is, they know that won't work. Any ground given to the far left on these issues will be lost forever and nothing good will come of it.

>>82184936
point me to where does it say ''in the first world''

>>82184904
>freedom only counts if I agree with it
Only consenting adults can get sex assignment surgeries, they pay for.

>>82184962
ok show me how america is safer than europe please

>>82182741
>I'm not even really conservative
>Correcting The Record ™
You couldn't have made it any more obvious that you're a retarded /pol/cuck could you?

everyone defending this show is either doing it ironically or is from reddit

>>82184936
same old inevitable crisis propaganda piece and the solution is to always give up your rights or centralise power.

>>82184986
It's everywhere you moronic faggot. But it strains first world societies less.

Just accept you aren't versed on the subject.

>>82185018
At least we don't have rapefugees

>>82184961
>republicans controlling all branches of government
>HURR BUT U CANT HAEV NONLIBRUL IDEALS OR THEYLL FIND U AND KILL U IT'S LIEK A CONSERVATIVE GENOCIDE
man you people love whining

>>82184936
>“The fall of the Roman Empire, and the equally (if not more) advanced Han, Mauryan, and Gupta Empires, as well as so many advanced Mesopotamian Empires, are all testimony to the fact that advanced, sophisticated, complex, and creative civilisations can be both fragile and impermanent.”
>all fell because of over population
holy fucking shit you can't be serious

>>82185030
first world societies barely have any children, literally the only place having kids right now is africa, even india slowed down, maybe they should stop?

>>82185022
How does that make him a /pol/cuck?
Also, doesn't using the word "cuck" result in everyone exiling you to /pol/ in the first place? What's up with you?

>>82185018
Crime exists everywhere kid, you just don't seem able to wrap your head around how population densities work in statistical relation to crime. It isn't some fucking revelation that highly dense areas have more crime.

>>82185074
>if I disagree with it, it must be false
Snowflakes everywhere I guess.

>>82185085
>have thrid world crime rates
>think its normal
OH SAY CAN YOU SEE

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>>82185028

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>>82185085
fifty-six percent

>>82185116
if it's retarded I'm probably going to be disagree with it, yeah

>>82182741
I don't think it's intentionally propaganda. Just an old man trying to be relevant again by riding the nostalgia train and got some young intern to help him be "down with the kids"

>>82185167
You ever think that maybe, just maybe, it's you?

>>82184148
>exponentially
this triggers me.

>>82185182
>he thinks bill has any input on what happens on the show

>>82185166
shh he thinks having more murder than super crowded places like japan or india is normal

>>82185081
Pretty sure none of that is correct.

>>82185116
>you can "disagree" with falsehood now

Is Bill Nye a descendant of Abraham Lincoln?

>>82184998
yeah, and i'm free to call them mentally ill and refute their delusions

>>82185192
do you?

>>82185205
That's what I said. He's just leaving it to some intern/fresh out of media school kids to run it

>>82185232
You are the only one calling it a falsehood, retard. Facts don't just bend to the wills of minority opinions.

>>82185231
well show me whats wrong

>>82185250
I tend to agree with confirmed and established sciences, with mountains of evidence to substantiate it.

You are the one who has a gripe then, with literally everyone.

>>82185269
>majority opinions are fact
Remember when the Earth was flat? Good times.

>>82185230
It's not normal it's niggers

>>82185310
The earth is flat you r-tard.

>>82185249
>I'm going to go out of my way to call people mentally ill and make them feel like shit
Just makes you a prick

>>82185253
"young intern" implies bill is running the show with assistance. Bill is a tool used by these degenerate netflix kikes pushing BBC, fuck white men, anti cis, trans is cool, gender bending bullshit

>>82185310
You mean about 4000 years ago?

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>>82184595
hahahahaha

>>82185340
that's called freedom

>>82182741
Almost everything made by Netflix these days is weird shit like that.

How far will the right wing persecution complex go?

a FUCKING LEAF

>>82185310
If you reject every consensus of data on the grounds of some autistic hand wave like "every consensus is wrong" or "everyone is out to get me", you will have a bad time understanding anything, son. Science isn't based on opinions, we talk about a consensus in data, not of opinion.

Your problem seems to be one rooted in cognitive dissonance if you have this much of a problem accepting established facts that nobody is really arguing anymore. In this instance, you are the flat earther...not me.

>>82185393
no this is very serious, a c-list children's television celebrity made a netflix series, it's very important

>>82185393
not as far as the left wings

>>82185393
dunno. how far will the black/gay persecution complex go?

>>82185371

In 35 years this country will be Venezuelan-tier. Abandon ship.

>>82185393
It's limitless, that's how it is for groups that form their entire identity on their persecution. The entire basis of the alt right is "we're poor victims."

>>82184400
>I'm not disagreeing with the show on a scientific basis

Honestly, most of the science was ok if not somewhat dishonest. The gender and sexuality episode was unbelievably dishonest though and felt like a propaganda piece.

>>82185372
Yeah, still makes you a prick.

>im not a conservative
>but these scientific facts are wrongthink

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>>82185480

>facts

>Gender expression
>Science
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Also
>"You white people" episode

>>82185475
>It's limitless, that's how it is for groups that form their entire identity on their persecution
like negroes and homosexuals?

>>82185393
We'll probably find out once right wingers can destroy people's entire careers because they triggered them. Then we'll come full circle.

>>82185461
Until you stop killing them and sperging out that they exist?
>equal marriage was literally only a few years ago

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>>82185310
>spherecucks near me

>reddit unironically agrees with people telling kids to give handjobs to strangers and proposing chinese population control methods

>>82184962
But that map isn't a reflection of population density at all

It just shows that the US is a fucking terrible place across the board

>>82185479
and? does that mean i have to start encouraging and enabling delusional people?

>>82185480
Because in the year 2017, Tumblr posts declare what is scientific fact.

>>82185447
>>82185461
this seems to be an emerging pattern as of late. every time the right does something they criticized the left for they pull out this "WELL THEY DID IT TOO" excuse.

at least we know now that you were mad because it wasnt your turn and not mad because you had actual values that were being contradicted

>>82185517

so until paranoid leftwing lunatics stop being paranoid and delusional, we have to deal with it?

might be better to just start culling them.

>>82185371
Really showed me with this panicky image macro from /pol/.

>>82183898
You know what's advantageous to our species? The weak and/or stupid dying off, keeping population and food supplies in check. Does that sound like a scientific theory you've heard of before?

>>82185182
I dont think it's just that but people downplay that aspect too much. The intern, Bill being friendly to producers same as he was to Monsanto people.

Jewish producers don't simply go "push gay shit, anti-breeding and SCIENCEtm on the goym", it's just a normalized mindset by rich liberal neurotic/cucky jews, people living in a bubble etc

>>82185517
>Until you stop killing them
you mean their killing each other?
>equal marriage
non-issue/liberal absurdity

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>>82182810
PENAL PUMPF

>>82185536
>these people are effecting my life in no meaningful way, they are not stopping me from living their life, I rarely even see them since they are .01 percent of the population
>I am going to express my well fought for freedoms, that people have died protecting, to tell other American citizens who are not criminals, why I dislike them.
>mask it with freedom
You are just a prick

>>82185517
>Killing them
kek

>>82185605
>equal marriage is absurd
Wew, lot of "freedom lovers" here.

One day we are going to need to reconquista our countries

Day of the rope soon I hope

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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMFF

>>82185553
>paranoid left-wing lunatics
Not like death panels though, amirite?

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>>82184148
And hear I thought Dolph was just another big muscled meat head. This puts Masters of the Universe in a whole new light.

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>>82182741
FENIL FRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMPFFF

>>82185461
no black or gay person in the history of mankind has ever claimed that they were persecuted, you liar

>>82185651
Yes, that has never happened...ever...gays have never been targeted by the government or hung in trees or mob attacked.

>>82185640
>I rarely even see them since they are .01 percent of the population
yet they must have 25+% representation in all media and no one is allowed to question their thought processes
>I am going to express my well fought for freedoms, that people have died protecting, to tell other American citizens who are not criminals, why I dislike them.
>freedom only counts if I agree with it
>You are just a prick
and they are just mentally ill

I have never met a masculine white male Democrat voter in my entire life
I lose respect for any acquaintance who voices as such
They're the berry pickers of 20,000BC in present day

>>82185686
>Faggots playing house isn't absurd
But they are free to do that so where's your argument?

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IMBEGH ZRUBMFFF

>>82185755
Not in your life time or the life time of any of the people complaining.

>>82185758
Please tell me the very scientific breakdown you did to reach "le 25 percent"

>>82185686

>giving tax credits to couples incapable of producing future tax payers
>not absurd

really makes me think

>>82185517
Wow, the reddit is strong here today.

>>82185755
But it's totally happening now and everyone is gonna die if we don't indoctrinate kids into believing in a gender spectrum, right?

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>>82183898
lmao

>>82185783
Kek, you want to bet some money on thst friendo?

>>82184595
>>82184519
>>82184328
>>82183898

Wow this goy got BTFO.

>being nice and sharing your inherent superiority with plebs and sheeeeit

evolution=competition=/=being fucking egalitarian and altruistic/autistic

The more superior civilizations sacrifice themselves for lesser ones, the more humanity takes 2 steps back. Literally the exact opposite of what evolution dictates and yes civilizations "evolve"

>>82185763

thankfully they don't reproduce anymore, where as in the past they were forced to due to social stigma.

>>82184081
>-ism is not a political belief
God, I'd be embarrassed if I made that post

>>82185787
>having such a gripe with giving gay couples the same access to a legal institution
Really makes me think

>>82185508
>tfw am gay
>am in pretty prestigious university even though have had pretty hard family life
>go to universities LGBT group (honestly just to meet potential guys I could get with
>all of them are liberal arts students
>sit and start talking to a group of them
>all complaining about how truly oppressed the are and unironically complaining about straight white men etc.
>voice opinion that is seen as wrong think (they were talking about rape statistics on campus and I pointed out how misleading they were)
>get a tirade of "muh feels" and that I'm misinterpreting the statistics
>simmers down back into muh transphobia etc
>Leave and never go back

These people are insipid cunts, basically, any community that builds its identity around being an oppressed group is bound to end up like that eventually.Tfw no normal gay bf.

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FUCK VUMPF AND WHITE """"""""PEOPLE'"""""""

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>>82185858
>Have same privilages while providing nothing in return
hmmm...

>>82183988

No they're too busy trying to burn down college campuses because of how badly they got BTFO in November.

>implying liberalism isn't a mental disorder

testing...
why is my isp blocked on /pol but not /tv

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>>82185393

>WHITE GOYIM SHOULD BE EXECUTED FOR HAVING CHILDREN, IT'S SCIENCE AND IT'S SETTLED

>>82182810
>being nice and good
>discriminating against white ice cream because he doesn't want to race mix
>CUZ MY SEX JUNK IS SO OH OH OH

Is that what they meant by that?

>>82185815
if only life was a thought game with 4 options

>>82185836
>evolution apparently stays the same and does not change the nature of competition
Despite being misguided, we are genetically hardwired to care and to give a shit about our own species. We literally evolved and succeeded because of that.

Fucking pseudo-intellectual retards in these Bill Nye threads, constantly.

>>82185867
I'd totally be your butt buddy if you weren't in some shitty university over in the states.

>>82185855
It isn't a political belief though.

>>82185920
>Dude you cant make gay people straight! they were born like that.
>We can tottaly make that straigh ice cream gay! ;)
P A T H E T I C

>>82185948
I'm in the UK

>>82185920
Impressive they managed to strawman white male hetero christians all in one character.

>>82185900
>the "gay marriage is a privilege" meme
Still going on with that? It's literally always been wrong.

>>82185818
Same could be do about the white people being persecuted, I can also find hate crimes targeted at white people, does that mean theyre persecuted? no, that's just individuals not a sign of systemic persecution as you imply in your case.

>>82185935
it's specifically because i give a shit about our species that i oppose its degeneration

>>82185836
Why burden ourselves with the trash of our own civilisation then.If I am held down from helping lesser cultures, am I not even more held down from the genetic trash in my own culture?

>>82186002
Wait, are you arguing there has never been systematic oppression of gays or blacks?

>>82185964
Really? Fucking hell, I didn't know the limeys were obsessong over muh college rapes too, thought you guys were more about why it's wrong to save your daughters from Abdul.

>>82185867
>tfw am bi and hate the lgbt 'community'
>nobody knows i'm bi because i'm not an attention whore
>oh, but i guess i'm not a *real* bi since i'm not some insufferable cunt
>tfw people get called *blank*phobic for hating people who have repulsive personalities but they get a free pass because they're on the minority bus

>>82186035

FUCK WHITE PEOPLE AND FUCK DRUMPF

>>82186014
>degenerate meme

>>82185932
>life has infinite options
LMAO
http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/16/3/7.html

>>82185959
>ism
>ˈizəm/Submit
>noun informal derogatory
>a distinctive practice, system, or philosophy, typically a political ideology or an artistic movement.

Yikes

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>>82186075
>meme

>>82186001
The marriage is tax privilage, you dont provide anything in return why should you get it?

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>>82185906
>liberalism is a mental disorder
Yes, the foundation of western society, free markets and the concept of democracy, is a mental disorder...

>>82186035
Can you read? not in your lifetime or the life time of people complaining

There was white persecution back in the middle ages in Middle Eastern (did you know more whites have been enslaved by Islam during the middle ages than Blacks through their entire history? interesting right?) that doesn't mean whites are being systematically enslaved today.

>>82186105
That doesn't make every ism a political belief you fucking illiterate clod. So veganism is a political belief then?

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>>82186131
yep. problem?

The reason for the rise in anti-science beliefs seem pretty obvious to me. People have too much spare time now and actually have time to form opinions on things that they'd never really care before. Having opinions means that you're likely to have wrong opinions, and the thing with humans is that being wrong feels pretty much the same thing as being right, until someone shows you that you are wrong. At that moment, you feel terrible, and of course you'd do anything to avoid that feeling, including deluding yourself that you're actually right and that there's conspiracies against what you believe.

There's no particular reason why people have to feel like they have to be right all the time. But somehow, maybe because America is so competitive, that that's just how the culture has developed. The only way out of this cycle is to stop thinking that you have to always have the right answer.

>>82186035
>has never
That's not the point of the conversation, anon, focus.

>>82186160
>can you read? not in your lifetime or the life time of people complaining
But this is flatout wrong and makes you look retarded.

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>>82186131

>>82186199
Sorry, you're right, I should have mentioned not in your lifetime or the life time of people complaining in western cultures, but I thought that was implied.

>>82186174
Move to North Korea then.

>>82186166
>the belief that consuming the product of animals is wrong

It's absolutely a political belief. Or did PETA disband?

>>82186234
nah. they have markets and money

>>82186190
>implying liberals aren't anti-biology

>>82186126
How is this hard for you:
>on monday, gays couldn't get married but you could
>on tuesday, gays can get married and you still could
They were being denied a basic legal institution that was unconstitutionally blocked from them.

Why do some Amerifags hate freedom so much?

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>>82182741
>DUDE LBGQTGDJVDJRU PEOPLE ARE BORN THAT WAY LMAFO!
>Do you have any proof or science behind your claims?
>Not righ- DONALD TRUMP RACIST SEXIST KKK ANTI GAY!

What did they mean by this?

>>82186199
>They're being systematically persecuted, killed and linched
The question is, are you retarded? or you use systematically too permissive?

Is this like the "systemic" racism that is not systemic at all? is systemic and systematic the new literally?

>>82183149
just

>>82186232
Which is again, still retarded. How old do you think everyone is here? 12?

>im gay im so opressed ugh
>literally never had anything happen to them

>>82186313
rip old bill. the urge to take the shekels was just too much for him.

>>82186316
>systematic racism is not systematic
How far underground do you live?

>>82184292
The difference is, we use facts, statistics, and logic. You don't.

>>82186258
>veganism is a political belief(which is wrong)
>so by this dumb logic
>every ism is a political belief
Fucking Christ, please kill yourself

>>82182810
There's a difference between being nice and good to your fellow man, and not agreeing with what someone does. Bill Nye is not advocating the former. He's saying you have to accept his way of thinking just because he thinks you have to be evil subhuman scum if you don't agree with him.

>>82186370
Try quoting better next time
I said "systematic", or do you prefer """""""""systematic"""""""""", might see that I used " " as in this is imaginary and doesnt exist but people use it even when there's no proof

>>82186298
>poor people get foodstamps
>rich people dont
HURR WHY AM I DENIED MY RIGHTS? WHY DO YOU HATE FREEDOM.

>>82186425
>we use facts, statistics, and logic
where in this thread did you do that to refute something on the show exactly?

>>82186258
It's a voluntary moral choice. Not a prescription per se. It doesn't have to be political.

>>82186105
You literally just disproved your own position.

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>>82186425
>/pol/fags use statistics and facts
KEK you are absolutely opposed to virtually all facts you don't like and pretend everything else is a massive conspiracy.

Go fuck yourself.

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>>82184101
Damn, I feel sorry for you m8

>>82186370
systematic racism isn't systematic because systematic racism doesn't exist, therefore can't be anything.

>>82186425
If that was the case you wouldn't say that climate change is a jewish conspiracy

>>82186511
like the conspiracy to oppress the innocent black man?

>>82186460
So you think systematic racism doesn't exist and there is no proof? This is your autistic premise you are sticking by?

>>82186199
>we round up gays and blacks and burn them or hang them from trees

Neat. Tell me where in the western world this is all happening.

>>82186190
And the second point to that is that you'd need to have a framework to determine what is true and what isn't. And a person in general should be motivated to do things that lead to a correct result because otherwise, we're just acting irrationally. Not surprisingly, the thing we call "science" is just a way of doing that. It saves us time because we can focus on what works and stop focusing on ways that do not work.

"Science" is just what successful humans do. They identify repeatable patterns, determine the root cause, and use that to make causal predictions about the world.

Science is a pretty big part of why corporations succeed as well. It's also the reason why so many people are able to be tricked by those who know how to use science to manipulate them. Human behavior is so predictable, since you can use science to create a model of human behavior. Instead of just trusting what celebrity scientists say or radio talkshow hosts say about a particular thing, do your own fucking research. Don't be such a fucking sheep that can be manipulated by another person who has studied humans to know how to make you agree with their point of view.

>>82186517
>t. 14 year old, suburban white kid

>>82186571
It exists, its called affrimative action

>>82186370
>muh systematic boogeyman
Funny how when you make a statement as broad as "it's the system, man", it inherently doesn't require any fucking evidence. You're no better than the /pol/lacks who point to the "jewish conspiracy" for every one of their problems.

>>82184935
>Minnesota is a light blue when Minneapolis is a highly populated city
>Lousiana is dark blue and New Orleans is probably about as highly populated as Minneapolis

reminder that Minneapolis is nicknamed "murderapolis"

>>82186511
With statistics to back them up. I don't really buy into the whole Jewish shit myself, but at least /pol/ uses statistics to say that Jews disproportionately make up the media.

What statistics do feminists use to prove the patriarchy? Or that there are 76 genders? Nothing. Their fee-fees.

>>82183924

>"hurr, I was just pretending to be retarded"

The modern Democrat, ladies and gentlemen.

>>82186559
Now you are just being silly. This was bait, wasn't it?

>>82186437
Here's the fact you're missing, you dumb fuck. The second someone starts suggesting policy based on an idea, it becomes political. So veganism wasn't political when it was a few people not eating eggs. It became political even those people organized and started pursuing political action.

Similarly, egalitarianism is not political when it's just you patting yourself on the back for treating everybody fairly. It becomes political when organizations push for political action based on egalitarian principles

>>82186614
Ad hominems aren't arguments. Try again, cunt.

>>82186629
The Jews in media meme has no real statistics.

>>82186160
>more whites have been enslaved by Islam during the middle ages
That wasn't limited to the Middle Ages, it was still going on when Jefferson was president, that was what the Treaty of Tripoli was about.

>>82186647
no. just using your own view against you

>>82186623
If you are arguing that blacks have not been oppressed in America, you have to either be baiting or amazingly stupid.

>>82186694
Kek, please tell me what my own views are.

>>82186712
To be arguing that blacks are currently oppressed in USA, you have to either be baiting or be amazingly stupid.

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>>82186042
I'd honestly say that Uni's in the UK are worse for this shit in some ways. It was odd honestly because they were talking about statistics that weren't even representative of the country they are in.

>>82186660
Anon, no. The definition of the word is not a political belief. That isn't how this works. There is no policy or law about veganism...stop being a retard.

>>82186332
I don't necessarily agree that there wasn't racism in our lifetime, but in the last 10 years it has definitely shrunk is considered very taboo. Public racism in the west hasn't really existed for 15-20 years. You don't see whites calling blacks "nigger" in public anymore. And yes I know that isn't the only form of racism, but it is an indicator of racist levels

>>82186750
They're being systematically killed and lynched in the streets same with the LGTBs. Laws and constitution protect those who kill them.

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>>82186629

>>82186749
You're a special snowflake, man. You're just so intellectual.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB_omHQwYh8

>>82186749
>/pol/ thinks everything is a conspiracy
>the idea that blacks are deliberately and omnipresently oppressed by a faceless group of white people somewhere is not a conspiracy though

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>>82186792
>I don't necessarily agree that there wasn't racism in our lifetime
KEK, NECESSARILY?

>>82186801
Wut

Where? The odd case of a cop being racist?

>>82186792
We're talking about systemic racism, not simple racism done by individuals, systemic racism doesn't exist in current western civilization for at least two-three generations.

>>82186068
People are generally really surprised to find out I'm gay because I don't look act it. It is great though arguing with some of these people when they don't know I'm gay, because when they pull the "you couldn't possibly understand" bullshit they look all the more stupid when I point it out.

>>82186801
Post proof.

>>82186835
>a former slave minority that had to deal with consistent fights for equal rights
>who couldn't even legally marry whites until the end of the 60s
>were never oppressed and racism never happens anymore, anywhere
>it is just a big conspiracy

>>82186855
>systemic racism doesn't exist
Probably because you are painfully obtuse about it.

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>>82186712
>changing your point mid-argument.
You're new to this, aren't you? If you say
>"blacks are currently being systematically oppressed"
and then I say
>"no they aren't"
and then you say
>"so you're saying they were *never* systematically oppressed? lol what a retard
That doesn't fucking work.

>>82186131
Thats called classical liberalism, in yankland liberalism mean college leftism

>>82186919
>can only list things that ended decades or centuries ago
not helping your case

>>82186959
POST PROOF.

>>82186919
compare today to 50 years ago, things are different now and they have rights. "Racism" is just a meme now because people want to feel like they're the victim when no one is the victim in CURRENT YEAR

t. white male who doesn't think he should be at fault for shit that happened centuries ago

>>82186855
It was about 60 years ago when lynching still existed. MLK was in the 60s too. It's definitely under 2 generations. Or maybe I'm misreading what you said. You're talking about blacks not having the same rights as whites right?

>>82186985
The word hasn't changed, retarded /pol/fags and conservatives just made it a pejorative for anyone even remotely left-leaning they don't like.

>>82187008
>racism is a meme
>I am white though, let me tell ya how minorities feel.
Awareness isn't blame, anon.

>2017
>people in this thread still identify with a political system and aren't politically fluid

>>82187022
>60 years ago
Taking into account generations run for 20 years, that's 3 full generations ago.

>>82186998
>it's decades ago man, psshhh
>FUCKING SUBHUMAN NIGGERS ARE DESTROYING SOCIETY THOUGH RACISM IS A MEME REEEE

>>82186781
I will concede that veganism is not primarily political if you concede that political veganism does exist.

Not that that changes the original point, that claiming egalitarianism isn't political is rank stupidity

>>82187008
So I get bitch about arab slave owners and expect arabs to pay for my shit now?

>>82187027
But sweetie, words change over time, get over it

>>82187090
"Generation" is 25 years AFAIK. I'd say it was at least the 70s when racism started it's downward trend

>>82187060
did you forget the part where I said no one is the victim? Criminals will be criminals, regardless of gender or race. Non criminals will be non criminals

>>82187107
ok? still waiting for proof of deliberate antiblack oppression by the system

>>82187114
Egalitarianism is not a political belief and you have sounded retarded every time you defended this point.

>>82187027
Liberalism is about liberal freedom, how are people bitching about hate speech and wanting more gun control """liberal"""

>>82187027
That's just not true. I considered myself a liberal my entire life until about 2013. The liberalism I knew is long gone. The liberalism I knew wouldn't give blacks special privileges to make fun of whites while being immune to being made fun of. And it certainly wouldn't pick and choose specific aspects of science for the sake of feelings.

>>82187127
>no minority is ever a victim
You believe that too?

>>82187060
There will always be individuals of every race that are racist to every other race. Racism isn't sanctioned by the government anymore and racism is extremely taboo in society now

>>82187152
don't bother dude. american political language is completely warped and nothing will change it

>>82187164
>give blacks special privileges to make fun of whites while being immune to being made fun of. And it certainly wouldn't pick and choose specific aspects of science for the sake of feelings.
Show me where this is happening.

>>82187126
70s were 50 years ago, that's two generations according to you, that anon is still right (he said 2-3 generations) no systemic racism, as in by the government and its agencies.

>>82187197
I can't tell if this is you being exceptionally naive or bait.

>>82187235
In UK right now with Muslims.

>>82187184
Have you bothered to look at the middle east? Ever realize that people have much more freedom in America than in third world countries? Yet all these people claiming they're "victims" would hate to live somewhere like that. Give them a week vacation somewhere like Iraq or Iran and they'll come crying back to the USA

>>82187235
There is scientific evidence to suggest IQ is inherited by nature and there are racial differences in IQ. Leftism denies this en mass.

>>82187246
I said under 2 generations. 70s was 40-50 years ago

>>82187121
Liberal has never changed definitions. Except to some Amerifats.