SO CLIMATE CHANGE

>>82145081
wtf i like pistachio ice cream now

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Also, listen up: climate change is a spectrum. The closer you look at ANYTHING the blurrier the lines get. INCLUDING CLIMATE CHANGE. NATURE is complicated. If you're yelling "PROVE IT" in my twitter feed, you're not actually having a discussion, you're being a dick. Stop it or unfollow me. xoox

is going to be the end of the human race

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>>82145081

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CLIMATE CHANGE AND TRANNIES ARE IMPORTANT AND (YOU), THE NORMAL PEOPLE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THIS

YOU'VE BEEN BERRY BERRY BAD, BUT IF YOU DO AS I SAY, EVERYTHING WILL BE ALRIGHT

>>82145207
orgasmic

do you ever think history will be as trendy as science is now?

so weird to see normies meme junk science so much.

CAUSE

>>82145081
idc about trannies but climate change is real tho

>>82145373
History would make people realise racism works so no. The only reason why science is popular now is because of the gizmos and the fact you can become rich in social media.

>>82145081
I thought it was called global warming

>>82145373
>do you ever think history will be as trendy as science is now?
only in movies. kinda hard to make non-war history interesting for normies, since by simplifying it you lose a lot of the complexity that makes it so interesting in the first place.

t. historyfag

>so weird to see normies meme junk science so much
it's almost like religion in a lot of ways. they understand next to fuck all about it, but they just want to BELIEVE and try to """objectivity""" to their claims of moral supremacy

>>82145466
try to add """objectivity""". fuck me it's early

>>82145081
>>82145081
>/pol/ STILL triggered that this new show is popular and successful

It's 2017. Genderqueer people exist. People can fuck who they want. Straight white men are boring and outdated. Trans girls are sexy as fuck. DEAL. WITH. IT.

>2 minutes of actual science
>28 minutes of economics, ethics, and sociology

>>82145373
Pseudo history is already as popular as pseudo science right now. Both have been heavily corrupted by cultural marxism.

Now lets cry about the evils of white imperialism, slave trade, and the holocaust some more. ....

The sad thing is it's getting pretty hard to get any type of American institutional education that doesn't teach these topics heavily corrupted by Marxism.

These days anthropology, science, and history; are propaganda, cherry picking facts to support an agenda, and burying your head in the sand when you see something that doesn't fit the agenda.

>>82145494
leaf detected

>>82145081

Reminder that 4 out of the 7 producers of this show are Jewish.

>>82145509
>he says while making up a completely fake movement in history called cultural marxism with fake origins and fake motives

kill yourself, you alt right trailer trash

>>82145081
VAGINA

>>82145494
kek

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DUDE, CLIMATE CHANGE LMAO

>>82145494
Hey Justin

>>82145461
They changed it because retarded people wondered why global "warming" meant some countries were getting colder. It's the same shit they still say about evolution. "Why are there still monkeys?"

Fact is climate change is VERY REAL.

We just need to bottom out how much is man-made and how much of an impact globally it's having.

>>82145373

Not likely. Scientism is far too embedded in popular culture because it has a good cloak of legitimacy despite being a contradiction. You can't prove that science is the only way to know truth using the scientific method. It's much easier for people to believe that science is the only way to know truth than it would be for somebody to say that the historical critical method is the only way to know truth. "Historism" will never have that same popular appeal.

>>82145081
I thought everyone agreed that climate change is real but there is debate about it being man-made or just a natural thing

>>82145508
Sociology and psychology are the two hardest sciences

ICE CREAM ORGY!

Not gonna lie, former Trump voter here. This is fucking hilarious watching Trump crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this guy get the nuclear codes.

>>82145574
Your use of all caps on certain words makes me think you're either from tumblr or reddit.

>>82145590
>>82145574
theres no real debate about it being man made anymore, the change is exponentially quicker than ever seen before and it syncs with the industrial revolution basically perfectly, the debate is how bad it is, how quickly itll get bad and how to mitigate it

>>82145509
>The sad thing is it's getting pretty hard to get any type of American institutional education that doesn't teach these topics heavily corrupted by Marxism.
entirely not true. i would be mad as fuck if i had to deal with it, but i haven't had to even see the appearence of it once. a chick in a first year class tried to compare christopher columbus to heinrich himmler and got shut down so hard by the prof and rest of the class.

>These days anthropology, science, and history; are propaganda, cherry picking facts to support an agenda, and burying your head in the sand when you see something that doesn't fit the agenda.
i'm only in history but you will get called out SO HARD and so quick if you try to do that.

don't listen to /pol/ lad, they just like to blow each other and try to forecast the apocalypse

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>>82145649

>>82145647
protip for the future, if they space their posts like

this, they are from reddit.

>>82145647
Only morons limit themselves to a single forum.

Leave your circlejerk once in a while dude.

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why won't climate truthers leave me alone

Oy vey don't you dare to deny muh clima holocaust

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>>82145081

IS CAUSED BY WHITE DEVILS

>>82145710
the earth has always had a changing temperature and conditions, we are way ahead of schedule in terms of how the quickly global temp is changing,, we have increased the amount of CO2 to 410 ppm from 300 since 1900, in the same time The Average temperature of the planet has increased almost a full degree.
That is a lot even tho its doesnt seem like it

>>82145373
No, science is cool now because "muh geek culture".

normalfags just look at history and see a bunch of old people doing boring things so it will never be trendy.

I wonder why the temperature hasn't increased in over 15 years.

>>82145836
>we are way ahead of schedule in terms of how the quickly global temp is changing

How do you know this? People only seem to look at the past 150 years but that's nothing in the grand scheme of things. You can't make these sorts of sweeping generalizations from such a small data set. This isn't a big problem with skeptics, they're more concerned with the climate models that are consistently incapable of making any sorts of accurate predictions. Models that have failed repeatedly, models that Democrats are trying to base legislation on.

>>82145081
>just dismisses the potential of nuclear energy with "nobody wants that"

I thought he was supposed to be a scientist? What kind of scientist dismisses something just because it goes against popular opinion? Fuck, better tell Galileo that he should've just given up since nobody wanted to know that the Earth revolves around the Sun

>>82145819
>a species explodes way beyond what current resources can provide
>an increasing number of it's population becomes attracted to mates it could not reproduce with

Nature is beautiful.

>>82145649
>the change is exponentially quicker than ever seen before
How do we know this?
We only have accurate records for the past ~100 years

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>>82146059

Leftists would rather destroy the earth to create solar panels even though the power grid is incapable of handling the inconsistent generation of power, resulting in either spikes in cost when they're not generating enough or in wasted power and massive loss of money because it forces power companies to pay to dump the power when the panels are generating too much. Germany figured this out very quickly and trying to switch completely to "renewables" they're moving back to coal. Nuclear power is just too clean and efficient for them.

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>>82145114
memes aside I fucking love pistachio ice cream. I know I can't be the only one

>>82146224
ice cream is for kids

>>82146232
so are imageboards, what's your point?

>>82146023
what models have failed repeatedly ?
Many models from the early days are eerily accurate to what weve seen..
Its often hard to argue with people on here about this because they flat out cant understand concepts like concentration which are important in this. I used to think it was no big deal like you but it was just denial cos its easier to think itll be find theres omething these scientists havent thought about thatll mean this never happens. When you actually look into climate science as a field you realise that every aspect you can imagine has a large number of people investigating and double checking incredibly specific things.

>>82146224
you have shit taste, vanilla is objectively the king of ice cream with unlimited condiment combinations

>>82146271
ever tried vanilla pistachio?

>>82145494
YAAAAAS QUEEN SLAY

>>82145574
>We just need to bottom out how much is man-made and how much of an impact globally it's having.
this doesnt matter. who cares what level it is at, its clearly not a low percent. Humans have made a significant difference for the worst.

https://youtu.be/46h-LfNWPn8
>haha just suck a dick, c'mon what are you scared? just do it, all the cool kids are doing it haha!

>>82145575
>what is validity and predictive power
"Scientism" exists but it has nothing to do with the scientific method or most scientists. The scientific method works because you can apply its results, make predictions about the real world and build useful tools.

>>82145539
Maybe the name "cultural marxism" is misguided, but don't even pretend bullshit like critical race/gender theory doesn't exist or is irrelevant.

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Insert your penis into a goose's neck and behead it once you ejaculate.

Then eat it.

>>82146023
>respond to models with data 150+ years old, trying to debunk climate change
>"HOW DO YOU KNOW THEY ONLY LOOK AT PAST 150 YEARS"
>"THE MODELS FAIL ALL THE TIME ANYWAY"

no one is this retarded right?

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>>82145170

>The people of the thin blurry line are more important than the people that aren't on the thin blurry line

>>82146059
>What kind of scientist dismisses something just because it goes against popular opinion?

What the fuck are you talking about you imbecile? What does the politics of nuclear power have to do with scientific investigation?

>>82146408
lmao

>>82146333
>Mocks conservatives on their views on sexuality, saying it's "based on feelings"
>Literally minutes after saying that gender is "how people feel"
Jesus Christ this show. It's a complete trainwreck.

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A couple of weeks ago th today show had nye on it to promote his faggot show and introduced him as "esteemed scientist Bill Nye"

>>82146217
>solar energy is inconsistent and the only renewable source

try not being an edgy faggot before you try to think about something you dont understand.

>>82145081
Climate change is a spectrum

>>82146333
What the fuck is Strawberry's problem

>>82146342

Scientism is the belief that the only way to know truth is with science, and you can't do science without the scientific method. Scientism is an obviously false belief because there are other ways of knowing truth that the scientific cannot touch, a few examples would be mathematical truths, logical truths, or historical truths. This is on top of my previous point about Scientism being a self refuting belief since the scientific method can't prove Scientism correct.

>>82146482

Wind is even more inconsistent in its power generation. Like wildly so because at least with solar you can predict the sun pattern and weather.

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>mfw I do think man made climate change is a growing global disaster and grew up watching Bill Nye, but think Nye is a fucking Dem shill who has made the fight against it even worse

>>82145539
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School

>>82145081
As a person who leans conservative, a fucktard like Nye is a godsend. His foolish drivel has done more to undermine the fascist left than any amount of common sense dogma. Thanks Bill!!!

>>82145855
science gets credit for consumer electronics and combating the evil boogieman that is anti science religion.

thats why its always "cool".

>>82146546
So why be upset about it and demand trillion dollar taxes levied against Western Civilization? According to 'settled science' and their models it's already too late to reverse the trend. So then, who fucking cares?

YOU STOP HAVING WHITE CHILDREN YET?

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>mfw I think trannies should be free to be trannies, but the science doesn't fucking matter because their beliefs on gender are protected in the first amendment so Nye is yet again full of shit

>>82145649
People like you are so fucking stupid it literally blows everyone's mind. Nothing scientific is ever beyond debate you fucking idiot.

>>82146580
>According to 'settled science' and their models it's already too late to reverse the trend. So then, who fucking cares?

Why should anyone bother responding seriously when you post shit like this?

>>82145081

FAKE NEWS
>FAKE NEWS
FAKE NEWS
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FAKE NEWS
>FAKE NEWS
FAKE NEWS
>FAKE NEWS
FAKE NEWS
>FAKE NEWS

>>82146451
Not that guy but this show is supposed to be about explaining scientific findings to the lay people to disprove common myths (climate change, vaccines, etc.). He should be explaining why people's beliefs on nuclear power are correct or not, or at least give a summary of some advancements in the field (like he did with the renewable energy guy). Instead he dismisses it with an idiotic statement and changes topic. It's fucking stupid.

>>82146451
Did you even watch the episode before posting on this thread? The man said nothing about the cons of nuclear power, he only said that the people didn't want it and that's that.

You're not much of a scientist if you care about public opinion, science is at its very core, unpolitical, the planet doesn't care if you're a democrat or republican.

>>82146482
Keep your pie hole shut you ignorant faggot.

>>82146626
You call me a Drumphfy if I say Climate Change is not anthropogenic, you call me retarded when I say fine, let's pretend the models are real and it is, what exactly do you want? To be contrarian no matter what? The Church of Climate Change's Prediction Models demonstrate that unless the entire world went Carbon Negative, it is too late to reverse the damage. That's not possible to accomplish.

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>>82146580
Here's the thing,
I think both that man made climate change is a real problem and and the carbon taxes are a scam.

America getting fucked at both ends. The American right ignores the problem while in the pocket of big oil and ghe American left wants to crrate a bullshit new big oil with carbon crddits that won't solve shit but make them rich.

>>82146561
this

>>82146659
>You're not much of a scientist if you care about public opinion, science is at its very core, unpolitical, the planet doesn't care if you're a democrat or republican.

In one breath you want him to discuss the pros of nuclear power, and in another you say that science is unpolitical. Are you for fucking real?

>>82146702
>You call me a Drumphfy

I'm not even going to read the rest of your post lol

>>82146506
But you seemed to be implying that it is a widespread belief. Very few scientists will deny the importance of logic and mathematics, and I don't see how pop sci shows are denying it.

>historical truths
Such as? Sounds like postmodernist idiocy

>>82146649
>He should be explaining why people's beliefs on nuclear power are correct or not

How can you be correct or not about wanting to live near a nuclear power station?

>>82145509
>/pol/tard talking about pseudo science

>>82146120
What did THEY mean by this?

Wait, how many Trump supporters actually deny climate change? I figured most of them were more scared of jobs/economy/illegal immigration and such.

Do the Trump supporters here actually pretend its not a thing? I thought MSM was possibly misrepresenting again.

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>Bill hugs the women he introduces on the show
>But for the men he only shakes their hands

What did he mean by this?

>>82146828
What's wrong with living near a power station anon?

>>82146861
US energy has made huge advances the last few decades. Carbon emissions are far lower now, yet we still have regulations that hurt the economy while other countries outright dodge the regulations.

We're at an economic disadvantage for literally no reason.

>>82146925

Why don't you ask them, you fuckwit?

>muh carbon taxes
If global warming continues at its current rate, then farming conditions are going to make food much more expensive. You can't get out of this without consequence.

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SO WHITE PEOPLE

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>>82146962
Shut up Jamal

>>82146804

It is a widespread belief. Listen to Richard Dawkins or Lawrence Krauss, these people are beleivers in "scientism." Bill Nye is another one, have a look at his video on philosophy and abortion. I'm not saying that every scientist acts like this but it is absolutely prevalent.

By historical truths I mean things like Julius Caesar crossing the Rubicon. There is no scientific experiment that prove this took place but is it rational for us to believe it did based on the historical evidence.

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>>82146945
You're the one who brought it up...

>>82146828
There's plenty to the nuclear debate besides subjective feelings. For example, people believe that nuclear reactors are unstable and dangerous, and one could try to analyze that in a more objective way. Individual incidents of nuclear plants are a complete disaster, but they are extremely rare and on average nuclear plants cause less deaths than most other alternative energy sources.

If nuclear power is safer than other sources (I'm not saying it is because I'm still reading on this, but just assume it for a moment) then he could try showing the evidence for that, which might make people who watch the show feel less unsafe around nuclear plants and change public opinion.

Instead, he says the public doesn't want it and so it shouldn't be considered. The same could be said for his gender spectrum, vaccines, etc. It was a pathetic moment in the show.

>>82145451

Good goy

>>82145453
>History would make people realize racism works so no

example?

>>82146828
>How can you be correct or not about wanting to live near a nuclear power station?
The science of feelings, eh?

There are a lot of misconceptions about nuclear power and it is disingenuous to pretend that these misconceptions don't feed into people's fears about nuclear power.

>>82147025
Nope, Simpsons made it so we can never go nuclear.

In fact, nuclear energy is being phased out of certain countries altogether because of anti-science alarmism.

>>82146408

BILL NYE THE WEIMAR GUY

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>>82145081

>>82146937
Not really answering the question, anon. Complete dodge.

>>82147121
But that's the Trump stance. Have you listened to the new EPA head at all?

>>82146987

So only darkies and gooks are fucked? Sign me up for this one! Hopefully we can finally get rid of some pests.

>>82147163
No, anon, Clickclick Boogaooga in Africa needs to have 10 kids.

Stop driving cars.

>>82146828
Been living near a nuclear power station for about 2 decades now.

Just because you retards fear something you don't understand doesn't mean the whole world should bend over and still continue in this fossil fuel death-spiral.

>>82147163
you realize that it will only make them want to migrate in even greater numbers and replace us than now right?

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>>82145466
It's kind of fucking annoying though. I'm not an expert on science nor did I study anything related to it but I have an interested in some areas. It's just painful to see people acting like an authority on a complex subject like quantum physics or something similar and being so fucking wrong, yet others around them take it in like fucking gospel.

Watching a youtube video about Schrodingers cat while high doesn't make you an expert on the subject, yet many people think it does. Dude science lmao.

Gave a homeless man a rimjob yesterday, did I do good?

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>>82145081
>stop having white children

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>>82147213
That's what the Wall is for, lad.

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>>82145494
You dropped this, m8

>>82147163
The only thing it will accomplish is greater and greater refugees "immigration" wave and the final nail in the coffin for the West.

>>82146987
Ayyyy time to annex Canada

>>82147144
>still a dodge
Guess that explains everything. Deniers, but too embarrassed to say out loud.

>>82145624
he has them

>>82147213
They're going to try to come no matter what. The answer is to stop them.

>>82147144
What does that have to do with Trump supporters, and getting triggered over talking about climate change?

>>82147254
see
>>82147234

No entry, Pablo

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>>82147236
>safe breaks

>>82147281
>>82147261
Are you braindead? The Trump admin and Trump supporters are against archaic climate change regulations.

We don't need them, they do more harm than good.

>>82146992
It is a widespread belief only if you sneak in "historical truths" or anything involving humanities. I don't think Dawkins would deny that historical events happened just because he can't prove them using the scientific method. What you are calling an "historical truth" seems to be what we should tentatively believe based on historical evidence, but only as long as the scientific method doesn't contradict it.

A lot of historical sources would call floods an act of the Gods, but we have reasons to believe (based on the scientific method) that this is unlikely. In areas in which the scientific method can give answers, I think we should prioritize it over other sources of knowledge. Is that scientism? Because I feel this is what the people you criticize believe in, and it is completely different from thinking that scientific method is the only way of producing useful knowledge.

>>82145649
So what would you call the fact that polar populations are increasing in and that there is still snow on Mt Kilimanjaro?

Would you consider those. . . inconvenient truths?

>>82146937
>while other countries outright dodge the regulations.

What other countries? If you mean the rest of the west then they're all bound by the same treaties as we are (Kyoto, Paris, Rio conferences etc)

The third world will always ignore such treaties since their economies would literally collapse otherwise.

>>82147315
>still continues to dodge the question and answers a completely different unasked question
we're done, folks

>>82145509
> these days history is propaganda
History has always been propaganda that is adapted to include real world events around it.

>>82146804
>Such as? Sounds like postmodernist idiocy

No, postmodernists don't even believe in truth in any serious capacity. get your terms right.

its a spectrum

>>82147355
>The third world will always ignore such treaties since their economies would literally collapse otherwise.

So according to climate change dogma, we have to either let them have an economy or save the planet. What's the correct choice in a climate change alarmist's world?

>>82147356
We get it, you're retarded.

>>82147025

Trying to convince people to want to live next to a power plant is literally playing politics you fucking idiot.

>>82147401
you're on the spectrum

>>82147236

Pissing in a sea of piss.

Might educate some homos though so who cares.

>>82147412
>either too retarded to understand he's dodging, or willfully being "stupid" because answer in embarassing
bravo anon

>>82147053
>The science of feelings, eh?

Yes that's called politics, retard.

>>82146937
What does that have to do with believing climate change or not? You didn't actually answer.

>>82147465
You might as well spam brap posts at this point, you obviously have no argument to contribute.

>>82147412
Didn't say it was right lad, just what it is.

If the international community actually gave a shit about climate change they would make sure the rest of the countries that signed those treaties would follow its rules.

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>>82147213
let them come

>>82147202

>I've been living next to a muslim ghetto for 2 decades and I'm fine
>Just because you retards fear something you don't understand doesn't mean the whole world should bend over and still continue in this islamophobic death-spiral.

>>82147491
Not even the same person. A question was asked, and was dodge by you, and ignored by other trumpers.

You're just being called out.

>>82146987
Kazakhstan truly is the greatest country in the world

>>82147477
No, that's called demagogy.

>>82147484
He answered by accident. He said it's "for nothing". They're deniers, but are too embarrassed to actually say because it makes them sound retarded.

>>82147484
>>82147537
>brap brap brap

>>82147512
So we're on a crash course for disaster. Earth is destroyed blah blah blah.

Why have regulations if the troublemakers aren't going to follow them? The US doesn't need this shit.

>>82147554
That's one form of politics, stupid

>>82147520
You do realise the Germans are facilitating this and the only people trying to stop it at the British and French? And even the latter has a 20% chance of success.

>>82146987
I've been meaning to move back to Washington. Though I may give Montana a try. Get a fat American wife to cook the rabbits I raise

>>82147574
>"brap" because too embarassed that he got called out
in case anyone was on the fence about Trump supporters being retarded

>>82147574
>why make murder a crime if some people will still murder

hmmmmmmmmm

>>82145649
>>82145574
The reason there are people skeptical about climate change is that they know a bit about advanced prediction models and how rarely they end up being correct. Weather and climate are extremely unpredictable in the long term, look at how wrong Al Gore was in his documentary and the math checked out for his projections. It's just that his model was completely wrong.

>>82147412
True or false, you're a high schooler on April vacation

>"white people I love ya, I really do buuut."

How is this any different from "I'm not racist, buuut.."

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>>82147572
>>82147537
>>82147484
>>82147465
>>82147356
>>82147281
>>82147617
>>82147615
>>82147628
>being this desperate to score political points

I'm gonna LOL at you when we leave the Paris Agreement. In your FACE, you retarded anti-science hippies. LOL

>>82147574
Anon.
Just typing "brap" makes you look like an idiot.

>>82147451
>politics is completely independent of science
No anon, you are the idiot. As long as you are dealing with the real world there are things in which science can have an answer. Or at least, frame the debate in a more rational way.

If you don't want to live near a nuclear power because you think the radiation emanating from it is going to kill you then yeah, science should get involved. If instead it is because you think the risk of an accident, even if lower than 0.01%, is too high for you to feel safe then it's fine.

>>82145373
Science seemed sort of cool when Jurassic Park came out, at least where I lived.

>>82147655
>climate deniers
>calling others anti-science
Jesus.

Here's your answer, >>82146861
Trump supporters actually ARE climate change deniers. it's not just MSM exaggerating.

>>82145710
I like how on the climate change side there are the majority of scientists and on the anti climate change side there is Ted Cruz and a guy on 4chan

>>82147665
>because you think the radiation emanating from it is going to kill you

You just assume that as the reason why lol

>>82147520
>implying Chancelor For Life Merkel would allow you to resist
>implying there is anything but guilt and self-destruction left in the German psyche
Germany is gone, it just hasn't figured that out yet. The only thing left in this world is the Anglosphere and Japan.

>>82147392
Equating the validity of the humanities as truth-creators to scientific fields is the first step to postmodernism.

>>82147721
>postmodernism.

>need word sound bad
>what word sound bad?
>postmodernism
>what mean?
>dont know, sound bad but

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>>82147584
>>82147719
reminder that environmental refugees have no legal right to seek asylum in europe and would all be illegal

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>>82147699
>>82147700
Climate change IS a meme and you're anti-science for not looking at the facts. All you ever do is shout "consensus" like it's a religion.

Go do some eco-terrorism in Vietnam if you're so adamant about your gay little pet "science" project.

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>>82147655
>didn't leave NAFTA
>didn't leave NATO
>couldn't even repeal fucking obamacare

But surely we will manage to leave the Paris Agreement.

>>82147707
I'm saying there can be different reasons. I gave two. The first one is objectively wrong, while the second is subjective. My point is that Bill Nye could try to address issues like the first one on nuclear science, but instead he chooses the irrational path and doesn't even want to think about it.

He had an expert in nuclear science and didn't even let him talk for more than 10 seconds for fuck's sake.

>>82147777
>Go do some eco-terrorism in Vietnam if you're so adamant about your gay little pet "science" project.

Is that supposed to mean something?

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I believe that climate change is real, but the entire west will be around 10% white when it really starts to fuck us so I don't care

>>82147777
>climate change deniers still saying to look at facts, while completely ignoring them
It'd be funny if it wasn't so depressing on what that says about human nature

>>82147809
>I'm saying there can be different reasons.

You don't know what the reasons are though because you've never spoken to the people that have this problem

>>82147655
I'm pretty much a national socialist so forgive me for not wanting 1 billion pajeets from being displaced because (((oil and gas))) wants to make an extra profit.
Global warming will lead to uncontrollable migration. You're too caught up in GOP talking points to take the long view on things.

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>>82147784
>>82147832
>gets BTFO on climate change meme
>starts vomiting democrat talking points

And the flimsy disguise vanishes. Attack of the butthurt liberal!

Hillary will NEVER be President. Trump won the popular vote now too btw.

>>82147773
I needed a word that expressed skepticism in the scientific method, and postmodernist fit the bill.

>>82147857
>>82147784
You can't be too obvious, or bait will start failing.

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>>82147856
>uncontrollable migration.

Yeah, you're totally NatSoc. You do know all it takes is to avoid migration is to say "no" to open borders, right?

>>82147859
Except post-modernism has jack shit to do with skepticism as it relates to the scientific method. Just because you hear a word used in a negative fashion doesn't mean you can toss it in anywhere. Precision is important, anon.

>>82147845
I have spoken to people who don't like nuclear, and a lot say stupid stuff that is objectively wrong. Shows about science could help clear the misinformed ones.

I don't even know what you are trying to accomplish here. Do you think it was wrong when Nye talked about the importance of vaccines? By your words, he was literally convincing people to get vaccinated.

The fact that someone created this thread and that people are talking about climate change means Bill Nye achieved his goal.

Also, even if climate change was a hoax, why would we not want to diversify our means of energy production. Too many eggs in one basket.

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>pay the tax carbon goy

>>82147776
Reminder that the unelected leaders in the EU decide what is and isn't legal on the fly. If they want to do something, it's legal. The EU is a great example of a Rex Lex political entity.

Just because someone isn't wearing a crown doesn't mean they aren't nobility. Just because you aren't wearing rags doesn't mean you aren't a serf.

Sorry Hans, it's over.

>>82147901
We should pre-emptively nuke countries likely to send us refugees.

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>>82147845
>>82147991
>>82147966
Nuclear is shit, dude. Carbon emissions up the ass.

Solar and wind only if we want to actually be able to breathe our air in 30 years.

>>82147991
>Also, even if climate change was a hoax, why would we not want to diversify our means of energy production. Too many eggs in one basket.
This is a sensible stance, and is the one I hold. However, the politicization of the issue and the science has led to a place where people who support and push CC regulations want an all or nothing approach, which has led to those opposing to do the same

>>82147777
Citing consensus as opposed to what? Doing a half hour of research in blog posts and decide that you know more than the vast majority of people who have spent their life studying that same subject. I work in climate s hence and people who think they know so etching because they read some blog post are the worst, the mistakes made are almost laughably simple.

>>82147907
What. As long as I'm aware post-modernism focuses on criticizing truth-seeking methods, and is specially virulent against the scientific method. I've read plenty of pomo articles criticizing the scientific method specifically with claims like you can't separate a scientific theory from discourse etc.

I agree that not ALL criticisms come from postmodernists, if that's your point.

>>82148020
>Nuclear
>Carbon emissions
pick one

>>82148020

That's water vapour nogger

>>82148020
I know we're fucked. Just trying to frame the argument in a way that accentuates the fact that we really don't have anything to lose by switching to renewables.

>>82147991
>Bill Nye achieved his goal
If his goal was making people that climate change is real or that gender is a spectrum he utterly failed.

>>82148062
That's good for you, and it's a good stance to take, but that doesn't change that so many outright deny the science.

Just look at this thread, there's a couple of idiots that pretend it's not a thing at all (and some dancing around it because they're too embarrassed).,

>>82148070
>agree with my narrative or I pull your funding

Nice scientific "consensus"

>>82147236
>come to /pol/
>get redpilled

>>82148020
>clearly doesn't know a thing about nuclear power

Why do I even bother?

>>82147991
His goal was to upset people to the point where they switch off from watching him?

>>82148020
>Carbon emissions up the ass
>muh utopia about renewables feeding the entire overpopulated planet in 15 years
Two lies in two sentences. You are proving my point that a show highlighting misconceptions about nuclear would be useful. Their carbon emissions are negligible.

>>82148020
>Solar and wind only if we want to actually be able to breathe our air in 30 years.
They said in the 70s
They said in the 80s
They said in the 90s
They said in the 00's
They're saying now

Hyperbole and fear mongering are the lefts favorite tools with climate science. However, their doomsday predictive models and forecasts continue to fail. This kills their legitimacy to anyone not already part of their religion.

If instead of making statements like that, they stuck to the actual quantifiable science they'd gain more support people outside of their base.

>>82145575
science doesn't claim to find truth.
The goal of all science is constructing models that can predict events to a satisfying degree.

This is why major scientific breakthroughs nearly always coincided with the development of new or better measuring methods. The then-used model no longer functions and delivers predictions that do not match the measurements.

>>82148074
>>82148076
>>82148148
>nuclear lobby shills

>>82148157
>negligible
Not good enough.

>>82148175
FUCK

OFF

>>82148120
>Back your arguments with valid theories and methods or I'll ignore your claims
This is what is actually happening and seems quite fair desu

>>82147901
it's naive to think that you can snap your fingers and say 'no' to people smuggling and immigration. Fucking North Korea can't completely control its border with China! and they shoot river crossers on sight!

You can tell soldiers not to let anyone pass but it's tough for soldiers to say no to bribes or sexual favors. In some cases, a national gov will directly intervene in enforcing pro immigration policies. This used to happen in Africa during famines (let these fucks in or we will send in paratroopers) but in an increasingly famine ridden world it's possible that countries like india (which has nukes) would aggressively negotiate with countries like Australia over immigration.

>>82147236
>Make sure you visit /pol/ and not /po/ as it is not politically motivated

I don't know why but this gave me a hearty kek

Bill Nye may be an idiot, but climate change is still real.

>>82147721
Postmodernism is fucking retarded but why misuse the term to mean something it doesn't? True Postmodernists would probably denounce the idea that there are historic truths in the same way they denounce scientific ones.

>>82148219
Walls work. Ask Israel.

>>82148062
That's also a fair point. It is a human problem, not a utility problem.

>>82148071
>truth-seeking
That's the problem. Science is about data, theory, and fact. It's not about truth.

Post-modernism goes after truth-seeking methods, theories, and ideas. However, science should be none of those things. When science moves from describing natural phenomena into making value statements its going to become a target for post-modernists and post-modernism.

tl;dr - Post-modernism attacks scientism, not science

>>82148192
>Not good enough.
What if I told you that if you compare with the energy produced, nuclear energy actually has LESS of an impact on the environment than something like wind energy does? It's insanely efficient compared to the contamination it causes.

>>82147966
>I don't even know what you are trying to accomplish here.

I'm simply pointing out that you're shitting your pants because someone didn't kowtow to your political biases

>What kind of scientist dismisses something just because it goes against popular opinion?

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>>82148271
>nuclear energy actually has LESS of an impact on the environment than something like wind energy does?
Literally lies.

Nuclear power creates smog, acid rain, and radiation. Look at Fukushima and Chernobyl.

>>82148074

Where do you think they get the power to build one and turn it on?

???

>>82147700

>Ted Cruz and a guy on 4chan

and my physics professor.

>>82148313
On average you fucking idiot. It's better on average.

>>82148313
he's talking about relative impact, which may be true.

But how do you objectively measure environmental impact?

>>82146561
Seriously I've even seen left wing publications freaking out at him because his show is driving young people to the right.

>>82148350
>>82148356
Solar has no impact.

Wind has no impact.

Nuclear is dangerous and has a massive impact.

The choice is clear. SOLAR AND WIND.

>>82148271

I'd tell you to back that up with evidence

>>82148377
>Solar has no impact. Wind has no impact.
All those things take an ingent amount of material to build, relative to the energy they produce. And wind turbines are known to have a heavy effect in ecosystems, and would only get worse if you want to cover the entire fucking landscape with wind turbines because of your autistic obsession with renewables.

>>82146587
Yeah that's the thing. Good right wingers see it as "I don't have to like it. They're not bothering me so they can act like degenerates if they want to." But the left deals with these issues by saying you have to not just tolerate others, but like them.

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>>82148433
Maybe I just want clean air to breathe for me and everyone else. You seem pretty intent on huffing this shit coming out of this nuclear smokestack.

Sorry if I want to actually save the planet.

>>82148433
>And wind turbines are known to have a heavy effect in ecosystems

like what?

>>82148465
even children know that's water vapor

>>82148483
*irradiated water vapor

>>82148440
>But the left deals with these issues by saying you have to not just tolerate others, but like them.

If you did like them what would be the problem?

>>82148222
>I don't know why but this gave me a hearty kek
Tumblr actually raided /po/ one time by mistake. The results were hilarious.

>>82148192
>FUCK
>OFF
Not an argument. I'd like to see the science discussed more; I'd like to see us start to make sensible changes that don't involve Hollywood'esq doompauling. That can't happen while CC supporters continue to play Nostradamus.

It's like eschatology focused fundamentalist Christians. Every couple of years they come up with some new series of events that they say lines up with the Book of Revelations. So far though, no Apocalypse, no Anti-Christ, no Second Comming, and no Rapture. Those are the same folks that wrote, published, and read: 88 Reasons the Rapture Will Be in 1988.

... and its nearly as popular sequel: 89 Reasons the Rapture Will Be in 1989.

>>82148117
>>82148255
The whole affair is made damn near impossible to navigate, let alone take action on, because of political tribalism and >muh team must win.

Thanks for the back and forth, though.

>>82148262
>fact =/= truth
Is it fair if I accuse you of using postmodernist tactics now? I don't even know how you are defining Truth to say that science doesn't tell us anything about it.

>>82147620
This.

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>>82145710
>misinterpreting that last graph so badly
Look at the time scales on the bottom. We have accelerated warming with greenhouse gasses. You just have to look at the instrumental record from 1856 and see how it looks.

https://iridl.ldeo.columbia.edu/SOURCES/.NOAA/.NCDC/.ERSST/.version3b/.sst/

I welcome anyone to take data from this database and plot it yourself. I even made one.

>>82146901
That's pretty common manners. It does seem hypocritical from someone who's supposedly "challenging the gender binary" or whatever.

>>82146580
Policy made about climate change has nothing to do with science ad you know it

>>82147236
If this is real, link the site.

>>82148377
Objectively non-true.
Both solar and wind energy have a severe impact on the environment, although not in the way you might at first consider.

Nuclear power, while it is relatively dangerous (but not even nearly as much as populists want you to believe) and produces high amounts of dangerous waste products also produces a high amount of energy.

But since there is no objective way to measure "evironmental impact" you can't calculate impact per MW or something, so you might as well discard that thought entirely.


>>82148470
retarded birds flying into it and dying.
This happens a lot.

>>82148489
it isn't, do you not understand the idea of a heat exchanger?

>>82148465
That's water vapor.

Do you have an autistic fit every time you see a cloud in the sky too? Or when mommy starts to cook your tendies in the pressure cooker?

>>82148304
How did you deduce that nuclear is the wrong path, if it is not using scientific facts?

>>82148553
>retarded birds flying into it and dying.
>This happens a lot.

How is that an ecosystem?

>>82147039
Just about every single war and conflict prior to the age of empires

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>>82147236
>do not expect to "win" any arguments

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>>82148555
>>82148553
>my face when retarded right wing climate denying hillbillies don't know smog when they see it

>>82148573
lots of birds dying in an area affects the ecosystem of the area, are you mentally deficient?

>>82145081
>>82145170
>these liberal cucks made fool of themselves when it comes to social "sciences"
>now we can get /tv/ to doubt science overall
what's the end game /pol/? You're really shooting yourself in the foot with this shit.

>>82148243
Dude I was originally just making an offhand comment that someone seemed to be pushing postmodernist arguments. I was wrong, but I fail to see how that was a misuse of the word.

>>82148465
Idiot. Nuclear is the best energy we have and those are water cooling stacks. Nuclear doesn't produce emissions.

>>82147191
It's very rich seeing a brown dude on his show giving white people shit when it's brown people's out of control breeding that's ruining the environment.

>>82148562

What makes you think I don't use scientific facts?

>>82148600
smog is a suspension of solid and fluid matter in a gas.
This would fog, if anything.

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>>82145170
>"I'm going to bed"


Is this the ULTIMATE "I Win" gesture of the Liberal left over social media?

>"I will now fall to my bed a depressed failure, but clearly I've won the argument I didn't even bother to have."

>>82148607

What ecosystems are those? What is the level of impact?

>>82148509
Facts are observable, quantifiable, and are able to be proven or disproven. Truths are value laden claims, ideas, and schema that while not quantifiable make calls to action for a group or an individual.

Truths can be subjective or relative, facts cannot.

Also, conflating and equivocation are not post-modernist. They're logical fallacies, or dishonest rhetorical tactics, take your pick there, that pre-date post-modernism by a few thousand years.

You should do yourself a favor and read up a bit on post-modernism as a philosophy and a movement. Reading post-modernists critiques of X, Y, and Z may not be giving you the complete picture.

>>82146702
>You call me a Drumphfy if I say Climate Change is not anthropogenic,
I'd call you a retard at this point instead

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>>82148433
>All those things take an ingent amount of material to build

While that's kind of true to wind power, any starving nigger in Africa can build a solar power plant.

The guy is still a retard for being so afraid of nuclear power though.

>>82147039
ethnic cleansing ireland, now they're laughable leprechauns who we drink to in march

>>82148638
Your entire rant has been that popular science shows should not adress issues regarding nuclear energy because they would be pushing for politics. But you reached your political position (that nuclear is bad) through some kind of method. If it's not science, which is it? And if it is, why is it bad if a science show talks about it? If you are right then it would give the answer that you want.

>>82148665
I'm 100% certain I've seen others do it. It's like they can just resume fucking arguing the next day but have to be like
>"WELL THE DAY IS OVER FOR ME SO EVERYTHING TO DAY IS DONE, AND BECAUSE I SAID SO I WIN"

>>82148668
I dunno, coastal areas with lots of birds or something.
You can't quantify it in a meaningful way, which is why this argument is completely pointless. I already mentioned that.

>>82145373
>science
you mean "science"
The fags that go around posting "I fucking love science" images on their social media accounts don't really give a damn about the scientific method. Only garbage pop science factoids and inserting "its science" into whatever ever beliefs they hold to make them unquestionable less you be labeled "anti-science"

>>82146059
>>just dismisses the potential of nuclear energy with "nobody wants that"

Morons on the right don't believe in climate change, and morons on the left are scared of the thing that would've decreased our emissions more than anything else.

>>82147254
Whites will migrate to East Asia in the 22nd century. The territories of the far East along with Russia and Slavic regions will be the new Europe. America will be very mixed. Western Europe will be Islamic, and the far East will be a white/Asian paradise.

Screencap this for your grandchildren.

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>>82148642
>>82148624
Nuclear smokestacks create nuclear smog -> Nuclear smog goes into air -> Nuclear smog infects and mutates the wildlife -> Radiation everywhere

>>82146987
>Egypt
is the nile fucking magic or something?
Why do they always win?

>>82148685
That statement had two parts, the second one was
>relative to the energy they produce

The amount of wind turbines and solar panels needed to fully power entire Western countries is fucking huge.

>>82148695
>Your entire rant has been that popular science shows should not adress issues regarding nuclear energy because they would be pushing for politics.

No, it has been that their content shouldn't be chosen based on your own political biases.

> If it's not science, which is it?

I literally just asked you why you think I don't listen to science

>And if it is, why is it bad if a science show talks about it?

I'm not saying it's bad to talk about it, I'm saying it's bad to call it unscientific for not talking about it, when it's obvious that you're just saying that because it's not what you personally want to hear.

>>82148761
>nuclear smog
the smoke coming out of nuclear smokestacks is just steam you dummy

There is an economic concept, the precautionary principle, that has been used to help economists think about estimating harm and benefit over long periods of time. It even works when we arn't sure if a fact is true (e.g., what should the insurance premium be on a person who was exposed to a cancer causing agent but we don't know for sure if cancer will develop) it can be applied to climate change economics.

Let's say that climate change has a 90% chance of being false but in the 10% scenario where it occurs it will cost future humanity 500 trillion.
So, let's say the world spends 5 trillion a year today to offset this future risk. If we do the finance math, and calculate how 5 trillion effects (economic growth , we may find that this is too much precautionary spending, that we'd cause far more economic harm by paying too much in 'insurance' than just paying 500 trillion in 2117.

What we can do is try to do is evaluate the probabilities of harm/benefit, and project economic growth under different levels of climate offset, climate harm, and determine what a reasonable % of global GDP is to fight climate change.

In order to do this kind of economics, we've got to stop making global warming a wedge political issue and just disspassionately look at the science and economics.

>>82148549
An anon "borrowing" his sisters computer found it. Won't say where she goes to school other than to say it's California. Best guess so far is that its from UCSC.

I'm a climate scientist and I'm convinced that people like Nye, who have little understanding about the science itself, are of great damage to the field. All they do is provide free ammo for the deniers.

>entering a nye thread for fun greentexts maybe
>its being shit up by anti nuclear/ wind and solar only autists, trump-deniers and hillshills, and probably fucking underagers as well
man get fucked faggots, this thread is shit and you should all feel bad that no none has nyddler posted yet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5GEpyYel4g

>>82148715
>I dunno, coastal areas with lots of birds or something.

so you don't know then?

>You can't quantify it in a meaningful way

Why did you say it's a serious environmental impact then?

>>82145649
>it beyond debate!
that is called religion not science

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I'm going to bed. You GOP nuclear lobby shills didn't win any arguments and just spewed memes.

Look long and hard at the effects of nuclear pollution like pic related. This is not the world I want to leave to the next generation.

>>82146478
>Buy milk

That's extremely racist

>>82148885

Umm no. Who debates whether the earth is flat, the sun goes around the earth, or if the earth is hollow, or if gravity is real, or if evolution is real? Not scientists. Who debates the truths of religious texts all the time? Religious scholars.

>>82148919
>not wanting to live in a world of greek myths

>>82148676
The point is that you are first stating that the scientific method cannot tell us anything about "truth", but then you are defining "truth" to mean something unfalsifiable. By doing that re-definition, the statement "the scientific method doesn't lead us to truth" is trivial and doesn't produce any new information.

Following this logic, Christianity is truth. Islam is truth. And I don't see anything in your definition that puts them below mathematics in terms of how close to truth they are.

And I want to read primary authors at some point but I'm way too biased against it. Reading shit like this article:

doesn't motivate me at all.

>>82146546
don't worry

you are just retarded and nothing is actually going to happen

>>82148792
Then you are not understanding anything that I'm saying. Science shows arguing points that make nuclear power look good was an example, but they could very well do the opposite if that's what the evidence shows. I don't think there is one answer to this, but I know a lot of them are wrong (like the autist complaining about smog in this thread).

Nye's show didn't do anything like that. He just said that he doesn't like it and moved on, which is pathetic for what is supposedly a scientific show.

Everyone has realized at this point that a majority of our global issues are caused by overpopulation.

At this point I would almost believe you if you told me the Illuminati got together and agreed that pushing the gay agenda was the only solution to reducing the population of the world, and thus solving all of the world's problems.

>>82148927
>strawmanning this hard
There is no undebatable absolute truth in science. You're conspiratorial flat-earth argument is the case of people ignoring observations. Science is not about observation, its about discovering explanations to observations through the scientific method. If new evidence is ever discovered then the previous hypothesis is discarded for in light of the new evidence.

>>82148503
>That can't happen while CC supporters continue to play Nostradamus.
There is no way to talk about global warming without speculating about the future. Moreover, there is a different burden of proof for scientific theories than economic claims about harm/benefit. e.g. In food safety research, 'splenda causes cancer' requires less evidence than 'splenda does not cause cancer'. Why? If we got it wrong about splenda not causing cancer, there would be massive harm and little relative benefit.

>>82148600
>nuclear smog
that is water vapor, but then gain this is b8

>>82149161
>There is no undebatable absolute truth in science
There is.
If you repeat an experiment under the exact same conditions you get the exact same result.
This is the fundamental dogma of science.

>>82149073
>Science shows arguing points that make nuclear power look good was an example, but they could very well do the opposite if that's what the evidence shows

Wrong again idiot. Science doesn't label anything as good or bad, that's a political decision.

>He just said that he doesn't like it and moved on, which is pathetic for what is supposedly a scientific show.

Not really. Would you be complaining if he did the same for coal?

>>82148997
4chan thinks my link is spam. Anyways I was refering to an article titled "In defence of the apparently indefensible", it's on google and attempts to defend postmodernism but I thought it was idiotic.

>>82149161

I think you're responding to the wrong person

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>>82147236
>Safe breaks

....this can't be real?

I mean if it is, I guess good for them for stepping out of their comfort zone.

I don't /pol/ this seems like your just kind of feeding your students to the wolves. Bunch of insulated middle class pussies taught to make logical arguments out of feelings v. bunch of anonymous faggots who make vicious illogical arguments out of facts. I don't really see what this accomplishes besides giving /pol/ fags an ez win.

>>82145539
kys, californian

>>82149274
>facts
Many of the sources used on /pol/ are questionable in their objectivity.

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>>82148624
>Nuclear doesn't produce emissions.

doesn't know anything about half-lives of nuclear waste

Fredo, please

>>82149236
>Science doesn't label anything as good or bad
Jesus dude you are making so many logic leaps here. "Make nuclear look good" doesn't mean saying that it is the objectively good method, just that there are statement being made about nuclear energy that are factually wrong, and that a science show that is talking about alternative energy sources could try to adress them. He did it with the renewables, but didn't with nuclear.

>Would you be complaining if he did the same for coal?
If he said coal is not sustainable without backing up his statement then yeah, it would be stupid.

>>82149328
Nuclear waste is not an emission, but a waste product.

>>82149220
Unless new evidence that can provide a different explanation is discovered. Everything is science is subject to reevaluation and experimentation.

>>82149353
I said "exact same conditions", not "same observed conditions".

>>82147992
>Cliff Harris
>literally not a climatologist
>Randy Mann
>literally just a local weather man

>Hebrew Exodus From Egypt
>not even a historical event

Really, those are your scientists? This graph is even missing Y axis.

>>82149332
>If he said coal is not sustainable without backing up his statement then yeah, it would be stupid.

No dipshit. If he said "nobody wants coal, so let's move on", would you be complaining that he didn't dedicate an entire episode talking about how coal has gotten a bad rap and is actually pretty efficient?

Of course you wouldn't, because nuclear is the only horse you have in this race. You wanted him to talk about it because you like it.

>>82148997
No, the point is that I am pointing out that science and the scientific method are good for certain things but not for all things. Science, being epistemologically based in empiricism, has a number of benefits that other methods do not. However, not everything is quantifiable, not everything is data driven. That is not to say that STEM has less value than some other field or the like; that misses the point entirely. The point is to use a thing for what it's good for.

Science can tell you how and and why you're alive. It cannot tell you how or why to live. Science is wonderfully descriptive, but it's ability to be prescriptive is directly related to the specifics of what it describes. The problem comes when people want to use sciences proper authority to prescribe in areas where it's empirical descriptive abilities are either not relevant or as exhaustive as they would be in a different situation.

>>82149185
Well, that's a problem because the big watershed events that CC's supporters have predicted have time and again proven false, again see Kilimanjaro and polar bear populations. You're right about food and drug safety research, DDT and Thalidomide are two great examples of important warnings and restrictions brought about by good research. However, CC supporters have been making their apocalyptic claims for over 40 years and they've time and again been show to be incorrect.

It's a problem of discipline, messaging, and scope for CC supporters.

MECHANICAL ENGINEER

>>82149442
Stop oppressing him, he identifies as a scientist!

>>82149394
>would you be complaining that he didn't dedicate an entire episode
First, I never talked about doing an entire episode. Any time spent on it would be fine, but he didn't, and dismissed it in an irrational way to top it off.

Second, if he said that yeah, I would still think it's idiotic. But he focused an episode on why carbon emission are bad so he did his job there. So his criticism of carbon are based on theory at least. And the same goes for his praise of renewables.

>You wanted him to talk about it because you like it.
You are correct. But I like it because the science surrounding it points towards it being a perfectly valid energy source that can help when it comes to climate change. It is pathetic that Nye didn't adress anything surrounding nuclear in an episode that was focused on that.

>>82145539
>he says while making up a completely fake movement in history called the alt right with fake origins and fake motives

>>82145081
MY SEX JUNK

>>82149430
>that CC's supporters have predicted have time and again proven false, again see Kilimanjaro and polar bear populations
You should start reading scientific papers, not newspapers.

>>82145081
This guy slipped past radars and pushed the Satanic atheist agenda. The end is Nye.

>>82149561
>fake movement
lmao, it was only "fake" when you realized you grouped yourselves with white supremacists and ultra autismos. Thanks for infiltrating GG and making sure no one treats gamers as anything but racists pricks for the next 10 years.

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>>82149430
Supporters. Not scientists. Who besides Al Gore said Kilimanjaro would be snow free by now?
Climate science is highly complex. Getting your info form the media (from both sides) is not productive. Both sides have little understanding about the subject.

>>82146271
I've even go so far as to say that ALL ice cream should be made into vanilla. Anything else is just...inappropriate

>>82149430
I still disagree with your definition of truth but I see the point. What I don't understand is the notion that scientifism is widespread, or that popular science shows contribute to it somehow. Bill Nye's show is terrible for a lot of reasons, but being too concerned with evidence is definetly not one of them. The episode on gender is the most obvious example on that.

Climate change is real but that ice cream thing was dumb.

Its like they couldn't decide if being vanilla meant being straight or being religious. If its religious then shouldn't the other flavors represent other religions? But that didn't seem to be the case at all. If it means being straight then the lesson was basically "straight people shouldn't try to change gay people but gay people should try to change straight people." And that's a stupid fucking lesson even if you support gay people and gay rights.

>>82148020
Canadians get out

>>82149756
>straight people shouldn't try to change gay people but gay people should try to change straight people
My reading of it was the cliche'd "homophobes are closet homosexuals".

But yeah, it's hilarious how they have no problem saying that homosexuality is innate and can't be changed, but everything else (heterosexuality, gender, etc.) is based on social norms.

>>82149756
>"those people you call deviant aren't ever going to try to have sex with you, so don't worry about what they do"
>next segment is a cartoon about those deviants trying to have sex with a cartoon representative of the opposing side.

>>82149857
>But yeah, it's hilarious how they have no problem saying that homosexuality is innate and can't be changed, but everything else (heterosexuality, gender, etc.) is based on social norms.
Yep

>>82148768
>is the nile fucking magic or something?
Yes.

>>82149756
They're implying that the only people who find faggots disgusting are religitards. Obviously religion is an easy target when you're le enlightened science meme man and most of his audience of redditors probably thought it was a sick burn, when all it really did was avoid looking at any other factors so they wouldn't have to make any arguments.