My God. I haven't been fucked like that since...

how am i supposed to make a funny reply

did you just want me to say grade school or what

She says “Grade School” but at what age is grade school in the US the place kids go?

reminder that she didn't know what grade school was during filming and when she found out later, she was not happy

I had OP's mom over last night

>>82144670
Kindergarten-fifth grade usually

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>>82144658

>>82144707
FUCK YOU!

>>82144626
Mel Gibson's "Hamlet"

>>82144626
Something something harry potter bla bla bla

>>82144672
That's funny

>>82144626
I used to know a girl who based her entire personality on Marla Singer. I hadn't seen the movie at the time so didn't know; seeing it later, realizing what she'd done added an amusing dry poignance to the experience.

>>82144670
5 - 11, typically.

>>82144626
>>82144672
>>82144670
>the original script included the line "I want to have your abortion" but this was deemed to offensive so it was changed to "I haven't been fucked like that since grade school"

Who was in the wrong here?

>>82147434
I thought the story goes that the studio objected to the original line, and when they asked Fincher to change it, he said he would but made them agree that the new line be kept no matter what. So the grade school one stayed, which is arguably worse than the original.

Fincher is a master fucking troll though. He shot 99 takes of the opening scene in Social Network, and when the cast/crew asked for one more just to make it an even 100, he said no and called it a day.

>>82147499
>which is arguably worse

>banging a kid is worse than killing a kid

>>82144626

>it's another joke that only American audiences will understand in a film marketed to worldwide audiences

UNDEROOS!

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>>82144626
There's an error in the original subtitle track too

>>82144626

>I haven't had my penis inspected like that since grade school

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>>82147653
>watching Layer Cake
>"I'm rubbing this phone on my fanny right now"
>"I'll be right over"
>hehe he got turned on because he thought she was rubbing the phone on her buttcheek

>>82144670
1st to 12th. Anyone who says different is kind of retarded. It's almost like they didn't finish grade school.

I think the implication is that since Marla is such a fucked up individual, then it's probable that she was sexually active at a very young age (molested/raped and then just sexually active on her own from then), and she kind of gets off on the memory of getting fucked by dominating men.

It's a metaphor for big dicks and what not.

>>82144626
HOGWARTS!

>>82147683
Oh, it shows Marla

>>82149129
what's that?

I feel like this is next on the chopping block for an unnecessary and inferior remake.

>>82147860
>1st to 12th.
Ah, yes, who can forget the 8th year grade school students. Moron.

...since being BLACKED

Why do Americlaps feel the need to make a joke only they would get

>>82147737
That is hot though.

>>82149129
this isn't right. we're trying to maintain our behavior and they make a movie this suggestive? what is wrong with them? Don't they know this isn't healthy. My Word!

>>82147737
fanny is vagina in euroslang

>>82152803
I did not know that. Thanks for telling me.

>>82144626
MIDDLESCHOOL

>>82149129
WHAT DID SHE MEAN BY THIS

>>82144915
Reminder that Bellatrix gave birth to Voldy's baby.

>>82147601

>killing a kid

No kids are killed during abortions, a foetus is removed from its host, kinda like a malignant growth is.

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Such a missed oportunity

>>82154280
Back to grade school, retard.

i could've swore the line was "since the 5th grade"

is this some mandela effect shit?

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>>82154280
See now, by saying that, you just invited pol here. It's like telling a vampire come in, and the thread will be derailed

>>82152735

Were those forward young men supposed to be high-school kids?

>>82154385

But I was the victim in this, I had to stand up for the truth. You're victim blaming.

>>82154524
But there's no such thing as truth. What are you, a racist?

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>>82147434
>>82147499
>you'll never work along side fincher and have a blast fucking with the studio
hes probably still bitter over alien 3

>>82154382
grade school actually. They changed it.

>>82154280
>>82154385
Is /pol/ seriously against abortion? Fucking lol.

The thing is I can see the chain of reasoning that led them to making that decision. They would need to take the opposite stance to liberalism, all in order to combat "degeneracy" and muh jewish shadow puppeteer. So they think in order to morally condemn some dirt poor trailer trash teenage Mom getting a 3rd trimester abortion, they need to swing all the way to the other side and support a fundamentalist stance on abortion. The end result is they just end up looking fucking retarded. They decide in order to oppose that, they have to go full retard and support fundamentalist christian.

Extremism is stupid no matter what side you're on. It's all about moderation, the kind of "moderation" that Erasmus wrote about.

>>82144626
was Marla real? or just another manifestation like Bob?

>>82154280
A fetus is a human life. When it's aborted they slice it up and pull it out with forceps. They kick around for a bit and then die. You can find plenty of images and videos confirming this on the Internet. It doesn't matter how you try to phrase it in your head as "like a growth" or an "it", human lives are worth far more than your convenience because you were too stupid to wrap it before you tap it or just abstain.

>>82154940

>i read a theory about bob on the internet so it's true

Oh, fuck off, Bob was real, hence the 'his name' scene. Marla is arguable but seeing as Palahniuk wrote a sequel where they're married with a kid, it's basically canon that she's real

Also, Helena thought grade school was what Americans called high school. When she found out grade school kids were 5-11 she was not happy about it, but hey, too late

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>>82155180
What did Finch say?

>>82154385
Go back to /co/
/pol/ is and always has been more welcome here than your kind

>>82155239

No U

>>82149378
>american "culture"

>>82154615
I love his movies like the next guy but the past decade or so he has been picking the trashiest pulp novels to adapt. I wish he'd pick a decent story or write one himself.

>>82154870
Abortion is murder. to engage in it makes you murderer. Are you a murderer?

>>82157989
ill abort u little bitch

>>82147434
Grade school line is obviously the better line.

>>82144626
"I want you to father my abortion"

>>82147860
Grade School is the American equivalent of saying Grammar or Primary school. It's synonymous with Elementary School. If she meant middle/high school she would have said that.

>>82154940
Obviously Bob was real, but I'm bored. Why would you think he wasn't?

>>82155067
Don't give a shit. I care more for the human who wants that growth out of them than the pile of cells. Accidents happen, nobody goes to have an abortion like they're picking something up from the store. They do it to prevent a shit situation.

>>82154870
>needing to write an entire essay making MUH /pol/ boogeyman look bad just to justify killing babies

>>82152803
bongslang not euroslang

>>82144626
I haven't felt that good since Archie Gemmill scored against Holland in 1978.

>>82147499
>Pedophilia is worse than abortion
Are you serious right now

>>82149337
You mean 8th graders?

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>>82144739

>>82155067
Humans die on the spot through freak accidents, that's just how fleeting life is. How does that make them worth more than my convenience? While it's legal I'll make sure to use abortions to my best advantage, thank you.

>>82154280

>i have never watched an abortion video on liveleak

It's murder anon.

>>82159272
>m-m-muh clump of cells is human

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>>82150097
Tfw my exgf used to ride me in bow legged cow girl position like this.

Anytime I have sex now I cant cum unless I shut my eyes and imagine it

Since when does America give a fuck about murder?
Sex is EVIL!

>>82152735
>Milla was in married with children
Wow, she sure came a long wa... oh.
No ... I guess she didn't.

>>82160552
>ex gf
>using crying bald cancer man

I want r*ddit to leave
NOW

>>82147434
>pedophilia is less offensive than pointing out women kill their own babies to be whores
Things like this make me think west deserves islam

>>82144626
....my abortion.

>>82154385
>rape to the future
not
>Back to the Rape

>>82144626

Fun fact;

>I haven't been fucked like that since grade school

Was a studio requested change to the original line;

>I want to have your abortion

Interesting that abortions are legal and child fucking is illegal but studio executives believed that child fucking was less offensive than abortion.

>>82160445
>clump of cells

>>82161273
Dead muscle spasms.

...I visited the White House in '95.

BILL CLINTON IS A RAPIST

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>>82161273
God almighty

>>82144626
Is sex really that fun?

>>82161427
Only if you're attractive, its kind of forced if you're an average guy

>>82147499
>I thought the story goes that the studio objected to the original line, and when they asked Fincher to change it, he said he would but made them agree that the new line be kept no matter what. So the grade school one stayed, which is arguably worse than the original.
No, the story is that in America, child-rape is less controversial than mentioning abortion.


Americans are literally more okay with raping kindergarteners than they are with a normal aspect of women's health.

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>>82152735
Milla is underrated.

>>82161273
>>82161302
>>82161406

That's not even real, it's a training aid.

/tv /moronic shits

>>82161721
Do I look like I'm a fucking doctor, Mr. PhD?

>>82160426

>abortion hurts my feelings

It's not pleasant, but it's not murder.

>>82149548

Because who cares about you?

Zodiac>fight club>social network>seven=gone girl

>>82161774

No, son, you don't.

Do not reply to this thread again. Adults are talking.

>>82161909
>>82161721
Nice source you have there Doctor Shekalberg

>>82147683
That's actually a pretty cool line, maybe better than the original, which was just Fincher trying to be super edgy

>>82162300

>Anon posts image and claims it's an actual abortion but cites no sources
>nothing from you
>Another Anon refutes this claim
>SOURCES OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN

Nice double standards you have there, sonny.

>>82147683
Where does one enroll in Fuck School?

>>82162598
They don't let dorks enroll, so you don't need to worry about it.

>>82160751
So that we can all have 9 year old wives?

>>82162300
I'm not an expert on this shit but I don't think that's what a typical abortion looks like, they don't take the fetus out fully "encased" like that, if it is a real gif then the procedure must've had some other purpose since it looks like it'd damage the mother

>>82162540
You honestly got BTFO

>>82163037
No one asked or cares what you think a typical abortion looks like. The point is you don't. Sit the fuck down.

>>82163050

If you say so, sunshine.

keke

>>82163074
Everyone knows that image wasn't a typical abortion. I mean, abortions are a really fucked up part of society, you don't need to make up shit if you really want to criticize the act. Your actions actually hurt the cause, since it's disingenuous.

>>82144670
American school breakdown.

GRADE SCHOOL
>Kindergarten -5/6y
>First Grade -6/7y
>Second Grade -7/8y
>Third Grade -8/9y
>Fourth Grade -9/10y
>Fifth Grade -10/11y

MIDDLE SCHOOL / JUNIOR HIGH
>Sixth Grade -11/12y
>Seventh Grade -12/13y
>Eighth Grade -13/14y

HIGH SCHOOL
>Ninth Grade "Freshmen" -14/15y
>Tenth Grade "Sophmores" -15/16y
>Eleventh Grade "Juniors" -16/17y
>Twelfth Grade "Seniors" -17/18y

>>82163168

Like those cunts that faked that video of PP selling aborted foetus parts.

>>82147380
What does poignance mean?

>>82144626
...Archie Gimmel scored against Holland in 1978

>>82154385
>Spot the movie reference
This'll be fun
Who's the artist?

>>82163235
What? They were charged with recording without consent, not fabricating it

>>82163282

What is a dictionary?

>>82154385
>RAPE!
guffaw

>>82161909
Make me.

>>82144626
this is the movie that turned me into a cuckold. the scene where norton arrives home to hear his qt crush getting her brains fucked out by his roommate made me cum buckets as a youngling.

i still voted for trump tho

>>82163311

Because it's not illegal to make false claims, however it is illegal to film without consent.

>>82163525
>the scene where norton arrives home to hear his qt crush
He doesn't have a crush on her. He hates her.

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>>82163526
But it wasn't a "faked" video

>>82160552
iktf. literally the best position of all time

If abortion isn't murder then at what point in the development of a fetus/child does it become murder? It's rebranded murder plain and simple.

Still if I was a lady and had an unwanted pregnancy I'd still get an abortion though fuck that noise

>>82159272
>>82147601
All these anti abortion posts i see scattered throughout threads once in a while are just all troll and bait posts right? I guess i missed the start of the joke but it seems that it's now a meme to always post saying "abortion is killing a child" whenever related.

I know /tv/ isn't exactly full of smart people and reddit has definitely invaded the site in general, but i've always felt boards like /tv/ is composed of people of at least above average intelligence, so i can only assume this is just some joke that i missed.

>>82163795
>tfw to intelegent to let children live

>>82163795
>i've always felt boards like /tv/ is composed of people of at least above average intelligence
You must be new here.

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>>82163795
its all ironic shitposting, hide, ignore, etc..

>>82163634
>But it wasn't a "faked" video

Yeah, that's why a dozen Republican states carried out investigations and discovered that PP did nothing wrong ... because the video wasn't faked.

Haha. Put down the kool aid.

>>82163234
>Americans start school a year later.
I didn't know this but it makes a lot of sense.

>>82164061
They talked to Planned Parenthood execs and the execs discussed accepting money for fetal tissue. Their actions were deemed legal because they aren't paid for the fetal tissue, they're paid for processing and transporting the fetal tissue

And Assistant Director Gatter fucking said "I want a Lamborghini" while negotiating prices. Best case scenario, she was joking. She was an abortion doctor telling a cheeky joke about the dead baby parts lying around her office.

>>82164105
His scale for grade school is fucked, kids are in Kindergarten and first grade a year earlier than he says.

>>82164061
Were there actors playing the Planned Parenthood doctors selling dead babies? Were their lines dubbed over? Were they CGIed in?

>>82163234
Exactly the same in Canada, except children enter "Junior Kindergarten" at age 4 and "Senior Kindergarten" at age 5.

>>82163778

>at what point in the development of a fetus/child does it become murder?

In law? That depends on the State ... usually abortions are lawful before 14 weeks, sometimes before 24 weeks (a standard pregnancy lasts 40 weeks)

Morally? After the foetus reaches a point where it would be viable if removed from the uterus, ie when it can live outside the mother with minimal aid

>>82164140

>they're paid for processing and transporting the fetal tissue

No, they were reimbursed for the cost of transporting the foetal tissue.

There were no dead baby part lying around her office.

>>82164203

No-one was selling dead babies.

>>82164607
>>82164572
In the same sense that a porn star isn't a prostitute because she doesn't get paid to have sex, she just gets paid to be filmed, so it's all perfectly legal

>>82160158
Where's Lisa Jr.

>>82164653

Your bait is weak and unnuanced.

>>82149548
Because it's an American movie based on an American book made by an American director you faggot.

>>82164765
>we kill babies
>we turn over their body parts
>we make money
>but we don't make money for selling dead baby body parts
I'm sorry I can't appreciate this level of nuance

>>82164451
>Morally? After the foetus reaches a point where it would be viable if removed from the uterus, ie when it can live outside the mother with minimal aid
That shifts with advancement of society/medicine though. It's not something inherent to the development status of the baby. It's like saying if some new medical technology allowed babies to survive/develop outside of their mothers sooner it'd make all past abortions murder.

Also any X-week line is arbitrary as fuck since not all babies develop at the same rate. Conception is literally the only logical line at which it stops being birth control and starts being murder.

>>82164915
That'll be a fun utilitarian argument when the time comes

>I don't want this baby anymore, it's my body my choice
>okay miss we'll just extract the fetus, place it in this artificial womb and send it into the adoption system when it matures, you won't face any further health or financial burden
>REEEEE KILL MY BABY NOW

>>82156826
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5VvEgVgXbI
bro....

>>82164915
>Conception is literally the only logical line at which it stops being birth control and starts being murder.
Why? Because your autism requires you to have an absolutely case specific date for everyone since saying "x-weeks" isn't the same for everybody? No but seriously you might as well say that the age of consent makes no sense logically and should not exist since everyone matures differently.

>>82154122
>harry potter fanfic
hello rebbit

>>82154385
>Fast rapes at ridgemont high

>>82154870
its not trailer trash that has the abortions its niggers
which is why im conflicted on the issue

>>82165235
Why?
>Among black women, the current abortion ratio is 420.2 That means there are 420 abortions for every 1,000 live births. Statistically, 30% of black pregnancies end in abortion (excluding miscarriages). Among white women, the abortion ratio is 121—which means less than 11% of white pregnancies end in abortion.
That's still a lot of white babies being aborted. If you don't look at it in proportion to population then it's a hell of a lot more white abortions.

>>82165311
abortion culls the black population more and prophylactic measures(condom,pill) has a greater effect on the white population thus banning abortion would be a boon to niggers and would hasten the decline of the white majority this being said abortion is still deeply immoral but at least theres a silver lining

>>82165166
A case specific date does not even exist though. If you point to literally any date/moment past conception and argue that it is the one that defines the line between murder and not murder it's bound to be absurd. It's literally saying that the humanity of a fetus depends on a few extra cells that it naturally develops if its left by itself, and it's OK to kill it just before it has those cells but not after. How the fuck does that make sense?

>>82165644
>How the fuck does that make sense?
its not about making sense its about being able to avoid the consequences of your own actions which is why you will never convince these "people" that murdering the most innocent that can exist(an unborn child)is unjust
they care only about their own cummies

>>82158665
1st grade
2nd grade
3rd grade
4th grade
5th grade
6th grade
7th grade
8th grade
9th grade
10th grade
11th grade
12th grade

All part of "grade school"

>>82144670

Grade school ends at age 11. Age 12 is the start of middle school.

>>82163778
if killing a fetus isn't murder why do you get charged with 2 counts of murder if you kill a pregnant woman?

>>82165751

Wrong. Grade school means elementary school.

You don't get redefine colloquialisms because you have autism and it doesn't make sense to you.

>>82163795

no, you're right, murdering children is a fucking joke

>>82165873
Stfu nobody cares about ameriken edekesjun

>>82165873
As an American, I can see you are American.

You would in fact be wrong, according to the rest of the world.

>>82165644
Why is the drinking age 21? What changes in that femtosecond that suddenly makes you mature enough to handle drinking alcohol? No bright-line existing is not a reason to not be able to set reasonable parameters. Say a zygote is a human if you wish but don't think that ship of theseus shit is worth anything.

>>82165838
The same reason you get to sue for lost wages if someone severely incapacitates you.

>>82166018

No, you are wrong. Literally just google it you fuckwit.

>>82166023
I'm fine with setting reasonable parameters for other things for legal convenience but it's not right when you use one to decide whether a human being deserves to live or not.

Imagine how savage abortion would sound if birth control was so easy and prevalent that conception didn't happen unless both parents wanted it to.

>>82160751
It is, actually.

>>82166506
If you don't consider a zygote a human then you must have some quality in mind that would grant them moral/legal status as a person. What is it for you? It can likely be checked for. Hell you could just take a well researched development cycle, line it up with the case in question, and then subtract two weeks. It really isn't that difficult.

>Imagine how savage abortion would sound if birth control was so easy and prevalent that conception didn't happen unless both parents wanted it to.
Maybe so.

>>82165838
If a fetus is a child how come it isn't counted in the census?

>>82147601
Have you ever been around a kid? Abortions make the world a better place.

>>82147434
I love the line "I want to have your abortion", which is from the book, it's funny because it's true, an accurate observation about female sexuality in the nineties - and still, arguably, today, whereas "grade school" is just edgy.

>>82163795
No, this is a socially conservative board and a socially conservative site, and thus we're pro-life. I don't know how you missed this, one of our mods stated it in national media a matter of days ago.

>>82166506
>Imagine how savage abortion would sound if birth control was so easy and prevalent that conception didn't happen unless both parents wanted it to.

Like now, you mean?

>>82163234
you're an idiot

"grade school" refers to just that: classes/ages are separated by grades. 1-12 in America

t. an American

and the rest of you who say "grade school" = "elementary school," you are retarded and should be held back a grade or two.

>>82160910
What worried them about the original line, I think, was the acknowledgment that women get abortions unfeelingly.

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>>82168811

>>82168921
Why are you showing me that?

>>82168984
It directly contradicts what you just said.

>>82149129
someone made this, got away with it and it got approved. almost comedic, how old was the actress anyway?

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>>82163795
>i've always felt boards like /tv/ is composed of people of at least above average intelligence

>>82169071
No it doesn't, because the fact is that outside of rape, conception doesn't happen unless both parents want it to. Which is why pro-baby-murder people worked so hard in Obama's second term to normalize lying about rape.

>>82169115
i found her on skypebook, she was 12 kekaroo

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>>82169115
>tfw you saw the webm twice, mere seconds before it was deleted

>>82169226
What? Sex and conception aren't the same thing.

>>82168045
If only you had been aborted

>>82169306
are you talking about me or you? could have opened it in another tab to keep but i fear what you would have done with it. 12 is 4 years off at least please no disgusting thoughts

>>82169313
What the fuck are you talking about? OUTSIDE OF RAPE, conception doesn't happen unless both parents want it to.

>>82144626

9/11

>>82169409
Are you being facetious. If not explain how that works and is always the case.

>>82169382
Interesting train of thought my friend, I meant me, no need for paranoia. You fear what I would have done with your copy of the webm? Calm down dude.

>>82169409
at least 30% of all people were an unwanted or unexpected pregnancy

>>82169450
Because people who don't want to get pregnant use protection.

Of course, there's one kind of case I hadn't thought of - stupid peasants who do a slack job of protecting themselves, or don't bother, then whine when they get pregnant. These people should not be accomodated.

>>82169469
not my copy you goose, i meant
>you could have opened it

>>82169491
No, this is propaganda from baby-murder fans.

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>>82169526
>Because people who don't want to get pregnant use protection.

>>82169536
I could have, but I only watched it for keks, I don't hoard lewdery.

>>82169526
The first thing I linked you was stats showing that protection isn't always effective. Learn to read better.

>>82169555
Oh fuck I'm being trolled haha damn.

>>82169575
This is the truth, though. I know you socialist virgins find personal responsbility literally inconceivable, but people who don't want to get knocked up use protection, end of story.

>>82169555
categorically incorrect. im pretty strict towards abortion but this is a fact of life.
>condoms are expensive if you fuck a lot
>doesn't feel as good
>not always available

3 easy to name reasons why many people have unprotected sex and think they will pull out . Many people i know have at least some times done it for some of these reasons. it only takes one time and people have sex a lot. or thats what i hear

>>82169647
see
>>82168921

>>82169628
Dude, those stats exist solely to justify baby-murder.

>>82169628
No, you're not being trolled, this is 4chan, we oppose the horrors of libtard social engineering.

>>82169647
>>82169681
>>82169681

aside from accidents see this
>>82169665
and also people are fucking stupid

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>>82169700
You're coming off a little strong there fella.

>>82169665
So you admit this is slack people whining? Why the fuck should they be helped?

>Condoms are only one method, but if you can't afford them and won't use any other method, don't have vaginal sex.
>Vomiting your guts up and hormone-induced depression from the abortion procedure feels far worse for the woman than a rubber sheath on your cock does for the dude, and they get better all the time, don't be selfish you fucking douche.
>They are always available, yes. In all cases. This is "it's harrrd to wipe my ass" bullshit, from niggers' mouths to socialists' ears.

>>82169716
Why are you pointing to lazy people's face-saving lies and bullshit excuses? Yes, people are fucking stupid, why should they be helped? People stay stupid because people help them. If getting a woman pregnant by mistake was the error that destroyed your plans, you would know discipline for the rest of your life. As it is, it's like a hangnail or something, especially for guys, who don't have the pain of the experience.

>>82169836
i dont think you understand what i am talking about. i am against abortion (after 60 days because its still like a tiny lizard or some shit). that said i also believe there is a number of unwanted pregnancies and i believe people are at fault.

some others in the discussion are totally pro abortion and agree with me only on the pregnancies point, you got the wrong guy

Of all boards, why is /tv/ so keen on abortion?

>>82169836
>>82169899
>>82169933
I SAID IM AGAINST STOP ANSWERING TO THE WRONG PEOPLE

>>82169933
I don't think you understand what you're talking about. What the fuck are you even arguing? You're against abortion except when you aren't?

>>82169899
>Yes, people are fucking stupid, why should they be helped?
Thankfully, this is not a question doctors have to ask themselves when treating your autism.

>>82169960
Why are you talking about unwanted pregnancies? Why does what they want matter? These idiots are a minority.

>>82169968
you got one month to realize and one to decide. i dont like killing babies so do it before it becomes one, also its all fine and dandy until we got a bunch of nigs and subhumans on our hands

>>82169751
if you post this picture or any anime you should kys

>>82169971
Assuming anyone who disagrees with you has autism is very autistic of you.

>>82169994
see this
>>82169409 i replied >>82169491 . thats the only reason i said what i said. a minority of like 35% is still absolutely massive and significant

>>82170003
So you're basically no help to the babies being murdered at all. We're pretty well stocked for nigs and subhumans as it is, but the sanctity of human life is not our call.

>>82170065
But it's not true, it's just baby-murder fan propaganda. It's like you've never met any low-income people. Given an excuse, they will always take it.

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>>82170016
Get upset all you want nigger. Have another.

>>82170129
I would like to correct this, human disingenuousness is universal - the reason I focus on the low-income people is that that's the group whose numbers socialists are most actively trying to thin out. A few blacks have even perceived this.

>>82170088
EVERYTHING is our call.
>>82170129
its like you never have, most of their children are accidents

>>82170205
Anon..why do you keep falling for it. You know better.

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>>82154280
It's a "lets trivialize murdering babies by comparing it something completely different" episode

>>82170088
>>82170205
to elaborate, smart or dumb people ARE gonna fuck. given there is no 100% safe way, my argument gives the 2 month leniency. you cant control their fucking and i dont want extra drags on our society.

>>82170205
No, the sanctity of human life is God's call. If conception happens, that's a life.

I've met many low-income people, indeed I basically come from a low-income background myself, which is why I find the anti-responsibility propaganda of baby-murder fans so transparent in its deceit.

You're stretching the definition of "accident". An accident is when something happens despite your plans. When something happens because you lacked the agency and moral fiber to make any plans, that's carelessness, and the only way you'll learn is to walk every step of the road it puts you on. You'll never make that mistake again. Being able to get rid of every child you accidentally have is not going to teach you responsibility.

>>82170300
There is no reason to set an arbitrary limit on when abortion becomes baby-murder. It's all baby-murder. You have no argument. Exactly, we can't control their fucking. They have to control themselves.

>>82170323
there is no room for realism in your argument, see >>82170300

also
>god
ok goodnight is 6 am

>>82170300
>>82170385
Oh, and you're falling into the atheist, materialist notion that society exists for some purpose other than human life. An extra life is never a drag on "society", however much it might be a drag on the economy, and a stitch in time saves nine - a family clearly miserable from the kid they couldn't avoid having to raise acts as a warning to five other couples who will now take precautions.

>>82170385
is a zygote a child?

>>82170431
look up welfare usage per capita per race in the US.

>>82170398
My argument is about the reality, I actually know these people while you believe that the state wiping their asses for them is a workable indefinite solution.

So you're scared to bring God into the discussion? Without God in the discussion, why should abortion be limited at all? Yank 'em out two weeks before birth and dash their heads to pieces, who gives a shit? Without God, human beings are pork, and the overdogs can use them as they please. With God, human life is worthwhile, and baby-murder is wrong.

>>82170460
Yes, obviously.

>>82170500
WITH legal abortion, you dense motherfucker.

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>>82163795
>board is infested with /pol/tards
>but i've always felt boards like /tv/ is composed of people of at least above average intelligence

>>82164164
>he went to kindergarten at 7
>he graduated highschool at 20

>>82170503
because humanity has value besides God. is that so hard to grasp? what happened to advanced societies before Christianity?

>>82170541
if you think it wouldnt lead to welfare leeching and more money to feed the more children of the same idiots you're deluded.

>>82170500
If it wasn't legal, you'd see a lot less welfare use. This seems counter-intuitive, but the truth is that having a life in which the very functions of your bodies are santized by socialism inculcates a dependant mindset. Someone will help you clean up your mistakes. Someone will always be pointed out to you to blame - it's not your fault, it's Donald Trump's, George W. Bush's, Ronald Reagan's... Remove abortion entirely from the agenda, and people will be trapped with the consequences of their actions - like adults. Like most people in human history. They'll get smarter. They'll raise smarter kids. The whole base level of society will improve. You won't feel like starting a race war anymore. These people will redeem themselves when it's all on them.

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>>82168858
>rest of you who say "grade school" = "elementary school," you are retarded

Looks like this stupid nigger never finished grade school.

>>82170626
There are some very advanced animals, but we're the human race, we're here and now. Of course humanity has no value without God. Fortunately, God exists, so that's not an issue, but humanity in and of itself is just electrical impulses in meat, as any biologist will tell you.

For your second point, I answered that here: >>82170730

Check out history - the right-to-murder delusion is a recent development. Most eras had no such right and far less welfare. They survived and prospered. How? How can people do well without a government that gives 'em shit?

>>82170824
>Fortunately, God exists
>humanity in and of itself is just electrical impulses in meat
Pick one
Any biologist will also tell you that the definitions for what constitutes life is often ambiguous and hard to concisely circumscribe. At what point do you begin to criminalize the potential for life? The truth is that it's the most contentious issue in American politics because it's a very blurred line. Life is generally defined as being capable of homeostatic mechanisms & capable of reproducing, functions that are far beyond that of an foetus/embreyo/trilaminar disk at <24 weeks gestation
You're probably the same kind of philosophical doublethink pleb who believes in capital punishment and eats animals, both of which abet the termination of self-aware life to a much greater degree than abortion.

>>82172138
I don't have to pick one, as anyone looking at the context will plainly see. Humanity, putting aside God, the source of all value, is only what it can be observed to be.

No, no biologist will say that except one who has been paid by the baby-murder lobby. What the fuck does "criminalize the potential for life" mean or refer to? It's not contentious because of any real ambiguities, there are no real ambiguities, only attempts by fallen humans to reject or sidle past reality.

Animals don't have souls. I don't believe in capital punishment and your grounds for assuming I would are zero.