Rome thread

>>82118556
what was the deal with her fucking the Jew merchant?

>>82118603
Cheaper than paying him in gold.

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>>82118632
>tfw ywn get to choose Atia's body over mere gold
kill me

>>82118556
GOAT female tv character?

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>>82118556
>it's a Pulo kills someone in an autistic rage episode

>>82118556
Shame, shame on the house of Ptolemy.

>>82118603
all mockery of jews and their one god shall be at an appropriate minimum

hottest character in the show by far

>>82118556
HE WAS A CONSOLE OF ROME

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>>82118556
>ywn penetrate atia, octavia and cleopatra
>ywn be as based as mark antony
Why even live?

>>82118603
She uses sex to try and control people to varying degrees of success. Merchant guy has money and influence so she fucks him.

just finished watching episode 9 of this where she seduces her brother

really good but how did they make the city feel so lifeless, like it doesn't feel like the capital city of the Roman Empire

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Who here /AGRIPPA/ ?

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They say slaves talk of bravery as fish talk of flying.

>>82119991
sadly he is a total cuck in the end

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THIRTEEEN!

>>82122672
PULLO

Can we all agree that the second Octavian is completely inferior to the first one?

>it's an Octavian fucks his sister, then lectures her on why incest is philosophically and morally wrong as they lie in bed post-coitus

>>82123548
yes

>>82123619
Octavian is a true patrician.

>>82123619
He just had to prove to her that she was a degenerate whore

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>>82119991
>Marcvs Antonivs
>based

HE WORSHIPS DOGS AND REPTILES

HE BLACKES HIS EYES WITH SOOT LIKE A PROSTITUTE

HE DANCES AND PLAYS THE CYMBALS IN VILE NILOTIC RITES

>always want to fap to the women of the julii

>find it so hard to fap alone

i think something is wrong with me

>>82123753
I think this guy might have been my favourite part of the show.

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>Fetch that German slut from the kitchen or you'll be next for the king of goats over there.

>>82123781
>find it so hard to fap alone

wat
how else do you do it?

>>82119991
The fact that his cleopatra arc got cut makes me so sad. Could you imagine an entire season of James Purefoy being degenerate in Egypt?

>>82123830
chatting with someone else whos fapping

>>82118603
she had a fetish for goaty little men

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>>82121609

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdzUOCqYU0Y

>Rufus Tranquilus

>Isn't he father to Octavia's friend Jocasta?

kek

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>>82120026
>Merchant guy has money and influence so she fucks him.
you're fucking retarded cunt.

>>82123800
>Not Posca nagging to Caesar and Mark Anthony with them being unable to retaliate because he is THAT good.

>>82123870
Nigga that's gay

Real question is how Pullo knew of Vorenus wife button.

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>that scene where the skinhead guy fucks that black haired girl roughly on the table and uses the rope in her mouth like reins

>>82123966
i need help

>>82123870
>>82123945
90's born queers

>>82124023
Nigga you misquoted

>>82119939
PC master race

Plebeian trash pls exit this thread

>>82123991
there is no help,4chan is where the dreams come to die.

>>82124080
4chan has made me a degenerate

>>82123753
>HE BLACKES HIS EYES WITH SOOT LIKE A PROSTITUTE
You mean a Puerta Rican whoaah?

>>82121239
Well I mean, it is a TV show from 2004. They didn't really have the means to show anything but smaller sets and maybe the occasional real life alley.

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>>82123817
>ywn have a harem of female slaves you can fuck whenever you please

Why live?

What are some other decent historical series like Rome?

I had some fun with Marco Polo despite it's flaws, but it got cancelled. Deadwood is amazing as well of course.

>>82124275
The Last Kingdom
Vikings
The Pillars of the Earth
World Without End
Spartacus (less accurate and more action based)

>>82124275
Boardwalk Empire is bretty good.

>>82124039
are you not a 90's born queer anon?

>>82124397
The Pillars of the Earth and World Without End are pretty underrated imo

Vikings and Spartacus are more normie-tier.

samefag btw

>>82118556
I quit 3 episodes in, does it get better?

>>82124435
Hell no.
I'm from the 89

>>82124397
I kinda hated Vikings and Spartacus. But I'll give the others a look. Thanks.

>>82124415
I enjoyed the first two seasons but after that I kinda lost interest, mostly because I didn't like a lot of the characters.

>>82124456
>I quit having seen only the best episodes of the series does it get better?
what a gen zombie faggot you are.

>>82119991
Cleopatra was overrated af, also sloppy seconds from Caesar

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>>82121239
>>82124163
you're both blind retards

>>82124456
If you don't like it by episode 3 it's probably not a series for you.

>>82124275
westworld

>>82124465
if that's true why do your posts look like they were made by a faggot teenager?

>>82124528
Why? Don't get me wrong I love Rome's portrayal of Rome and I always thought it looked pretty lived it and pretty full of life, but it's not like you get a lot of wide shots that make you "take in the splendor or Rome". Granted I think that was kinda the point as well, to focus on the individuals over the bigger history.

>>82124572
Great show but unless I've just woken up from a coma it's not very historical.

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>>82124480
>I kinda hated Vikings and Spartacus.
good taste anon

>>82123548
ya. Second was good, but first was pure excellence.

>>82124598
>but it's not like you get a lot of wide shots that make you
nigga what?
you missed that scene when they kill vercingetorix and they move all the city to see the poor bastard die in agony?
or when vorenus is in mar temple to be named evocati.
it has plenty big moments

>>82124397
>>82124275

I really liked The Last Kingdom but it doesn't get much appreciation. Also, The White Queen is bretty gud.

AVOID OUTLANDER unless you like female rape fantasy.

>>82124635
mind = blown

>>82119991
>Cucked by Timon
>Cucked by Agrippa
>Cucked by Caesar

>>82118556
I've been rewatching season 1 this week, and I forgot how fucking hot Atia is. Perfect tits too.

>>82124756
They had a few shots where they blew their load on sure but it wasn't a common occurrence.

I'm not complaining about it or anything. I'm just saying back in 2004 they didn't really go full out with the CGI like they do these day with GoT and stuff like that.

>>82119991
God fucking damnit why is he never in quality productions anymore

To be fair I think what most of you are looking for is somewhat historical fiction that can be enjoyed for the setting/writing while still being believable enough that it isn't outright offensive.

In that case it just depends what you want. A lot of good movies too.

What I haven't heard mentioned tv-wise:
>Hornblower
>Carlos
>Band of Brothers
>Generation Kill
>The Pacific (not recommended unless you're into that theatre specifically)
>Peaky Blinders
>The Borgias
>The Tudors

Off the top of my head.

Has anyone seen the new Medici series with Dustin Hoffman and Robb Stark? It looks kind of like Rome, I want to check it out.

>>82124275
I, Claudius should go without saying. The Last Kingdom is pretty cool, and Vikings is good, atleast the first couple seasons. Sharpe's series is great, although regarding battles the low-production is noticeable. Counting miniseries, Lonesome Dove is top-tier, and all of that series is decent (if it's based off a McMurtry novel). Centennial and Shogun are solid vintage miniseries as well.

Cadfael is a good hidden gem, it's a mystery drama series set in the early middle ages around a former crusader who became a monk after returning to England. On the subject of historical mystery series, I've been recently enjoying Nicholas Le Floch, a crime drama series set in pre-Revolutionary France (it's in French with subtitles).

>>82124598
they used more extras than game of thrones do today

>>82125663
Well that's because they can just CG everything in and use more wide shots.

>>82125165
vikings is garbage

>>82125699
and you think that somehow makes it better?

>>82124886
Hap and Leonard was kino.

>>82125773
God no. I was just trying to explain to the guy why there weren't a lot of moments where they series show the huge scale of the city.

There really should be a big-budget well-casted series about the 3rd century crisis that Rome faced. That shit writes itself with breakaway realms like the Palmyra and Gallic Empires at work. Or how the new Sassanid Empire was making a serious comeback against their Roman foes at the same time.

>>82126184
I just wish they made more historical shows not set in medieval England.

>>82126184
>>82126184
I'd watch a show based on Agrippa tttt

Pretty awesome dude

>>82126184
the general public is is too stupid to support something like that.

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Was she proto Cersei?

>>82126258
They don't even properly depict medieval England. Especially the pre-1066 era with the Anglo-Saxons. With the exception of the 2010's Pillars of the Earth adaptation, shows and movies fail to address the fact that England's rulers and nobility all spoke French since they were descended from the Norman invaders.

And you're absolutely right that other locales should be covered. Like Byzantium. They had plots that would make Game of Thrones look like child's play.

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>ywn jump into the arena to help your best friend stave off certain death
just crucify my shit up, senpai

>>82126326
This is so true. And knowing how SJW-infested productions are today, they'll fuck up any depiction of Rome with ham-fisted liberalism.

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>>82126425
>Rome with ham-fisted liberalism
isn't it funny that at first i was pretty peeved that you would unnecessarily bring up SJW shit in this comfy thread, but then it hit me how easily they could do it and they WOULD do it. We all know they would. A modern day rendition of HBO's Rome would have trannies, forced and awkward homosexuality (instead of the kind we saw in the show), clumsy modern political analogies that would age terribly and make the show less likely to be timeless. Tuff girl mary sue heroines, instead of the manipulative but complex and interesting bitches we got. Shit.

>>82126425
we're very lucky we got rome, sopranos deadwood, carnivale, that was the golden age of television, not the garbage they shit out for retards and sjw's today. none of those shows would stand a chance of being made now.

>>82126570
I'm very liberal in my views, but I really hate how modern productions try to insert their values into historical dramas. For crying out loud, people were far different from us in Roman times. Even modern Italians are nothing like Ancient Romans.

Everything you listed is exactly the sort of shit I expect. Hell, I'd LOVE to see how they'd depict the Parthian and Sassanid Empires; Rome's greatest foe and the only the civilized power nearby. Would they go full-out white guilt and tote the Persianates as superior? Because on a lot of levels, Persia was pretty awesome; something which even /his/ generally agrees upon. Or would they still have superior white cultures dictate to evil brown-skins?

>>82126603
I know. When did SJW's starting shitting up the joint? 2010 and onwards? Because in the 2000's, it wasn't this bad from what I remember in high school and college.

>>82125049
>>Hornblower
>>Band of Brothers
>>The Pacific (not recommended unless you're into that theatre specifically)
>>The Borgias
>>The Tudors

/tv/'s had threads and posts about these series. Hornblower is god-tier as well as Sharpe.

>>82124275
Marco Polo got cancelled?
Fucking shit man I was waiting for the next season

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>>82126660
They'd probably end up darkening and arabizing the Persians too much and making them basically just exotic arabs, rather than the majestic and advanced indo-aryans who were truly our rivals for hundreds of years until we were both snuffed out by the arabs. But since the current zeitgeist is that Iran is evil and we need to psychologically prime the population to fight them, they can't be depicted in a good light.

>>82126691
I'd say start of the aughts is when it got out of hand. also when i started college and basically went through a 4 year white guilt session.

I will get autistic about Cleopatra and the whole Egypt storyline. Most of our characters would be speaking Greek, first off. The soldiers would not have been black but semites or greeks, Nubians were barely in the Ptolemaic army. Did that bother anyone else?

>>82126764
Pacific is shit

Band of Brothers is pure kino

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I wanna see a series following Hannibal Barca and Scipio Africanus going from Hannibal marching from Spain to Italy, through to the battle of Zama, ending with the two main characters disillusioned and cast aside by the countries they fought for.

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>>82126899
>ywn see the struggles of these two historical giants in a relatively unbiased way that allows for their flawed but genius natures to navigate complex storylines and the trials and tribulations their men went fighting for dominance of the mediterannean
Just WEWUZ my Hannibal up, senpai

>>82126691
2007 was the beginning of the end

>>82120026
So she's a typical woman.

>>82126994
tfw two of history's greatest commanders lived in the same period
tfw they also fought each other
tfw they also talked to each other, once before fighting, and once again years later

The dramatic potential here is insane

>>82126880
It's a travesty that due to the hostage crisis and our toxic relations with Iran, we'll never get a good depiction of the pre-Islamic Persians. They're always portrayed as bad guys against the Greeks and I've never seen them depicted against Romans in a movie or TV show.

As for Egypt, why the fuck do black Americans harp about misguided beliefs that Egypt had sub-Saharan Africans when there's a fuckton of civilizations below the Sahel to be proud of. I read a lot of history (including African) and polities like Songhai or Axum deserve more respect from not only black Americans, but non-Africans in general.

You know how they're bitching about Sofia Boutella in The Mummy? Despite the fact that she's Algerian and most likely Berber in ancestry, an indigenous group in North Africa for thousands of years? Yet they consider her "white"? I can't even fathom this retardation.

>>82126691
The day after Obama got elected.

>>82126897
I agree it's shit, but I have a soft spot for the Australia episode.

>>82127122
>we'll never get a good depiction of the pre-Islamic Persians

It's not like we're getting good depictions of Islamic era Persians either

>>82126897
Pacifics battle scenes are top-tier

>>82126899
That would be glorious; 2 dynamic personalities clashing and in the end, it ends with mutual ostracism and abandonment.

>>82119991
They were really too kind to Marcus Antonius in the show. He was a superb cavalry officer and a complete fuck-up at everything else in actuality.

>>82127168
I know, but it seriously pisses me off that a nation's history thousands of years before the Iranian Revolution won't be depicted because of how butthurt the government is.

It's like making all pre-20th century Germans into some sort of proto-Nazi.

>>82127211
>It's like making all pre-20th century Germans into some sort of proto-Nazi.

Well about that...

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The good God's have taken pity upon us and bequethed that Bruno Heller is currently working on a movie to retconn the last season but due to production we will not see it for at least two more years
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>>82127242
Hey, there's no problem that I have to depict Germans in both World Wars as assholes that fucked up the world immeasurably. Maybe not so much as the Great War compared to WW2, but it's the worst insult to countless Germans in the past for the crimes of a Bohemian corporal and his autistic cronies.

>>82127127
You know, I didn't vote for Obama in either election because frankly, I didn't think much of him or any of the other candidates. He got hyped up WAY too much by the media and pop culture because he was our first non-white President. I remember my uber-liberal buddies sperging over him in 2008, but grew disillusioned by 2012.

Yes, a non-white got elected as President, but he wasn't going to magically make the US or the world great.

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speaking of historical fiction
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5057130/

>>82127369
niggers have never ran a successful country

>>82124886
He bad mouthed Game of Thrones showrunners along with McKidd.

Bark at your jew overlords and kiss goodbye to career.

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>>82123945
>if this is the afterlife, it is extremely disappointing.

>>82127917
Looks good, but I'm really bored of late Medieval settings

>>82128236
it's early renaissance :^)

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>>82127995

>>82127211
It doesn't have much to do with our government being butthurt. Persia has pretty much always been an antagonist in Western media since the battle of Thermopylae. Their antagonistic stance towards Israel also plays a role, because Hollywood is run by Jews who aren't going to do a favorable portrayal of their enemies. Between Jewish hostility and historical inertia, there is no incentive to portray Persians as anything other than villains

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>>82127917

The Legend of Concubine Zhen Huan/The Legend of Zhen Huan at 76-79 episodes, or Empresses in the Palace (Zhen Huan abridged to 6 episodes) is another good bit of historical fiction. Though it mostly deals with issues within the forbidden city. I haven't run into a Chinese historical drama of better quality yet, in terms of a series, that dealt with the common populace, or at least life outside of the forbidden city.

It suffered from some bad CGI here and there, and a few corny drama moments, but overall, good quality. I tend to recommend it once people run out of western historical dramas like Rome, Medici, the Borgias and others on a rather long list. More as an entry, because, I'm hard pressed to think of a better historical fiction series out of China, South Korea or Japan (in terms of it keeping soap opera/eastern corniness to a minimum).

Ray stevenson and james purefoy have both played blackbeard. purefoy was better

>>82128906
CAIVS
IVLIVS
CAESAR

>>82128906
"That fatso" as you call him is what all true /tv/ patricians look like.