What the fuck happened /tv/? Is gender really a spectrum? Is

"Gender" can go ahead and be a spectrum so long as we acknowledge that "biological sex" is only to be defined as Male or Female, and that it is permanent based on what sex you were born as

>educational

>>82071917
Take a look at the "scientists" he gets on the show and decide for yourself
https://youtu.be/Wllc5gSc-N8

>>82071917
>What the fuck happened /tv/?
He's washed up.
>Is gender really a spectrum?
Yes, but sex isn't. If you're a feminine faggot who likes to wear skirts you're probably on the spectrum.
>Is Bill Nye really a science?
He's a scientist, but not a very accomplished one.
>Is he even an /ourgoy?
He made science class a little more fun, that's about it.

>because some people can have xxy or xyy there aren't just 2 genders
>just ignore the fact they look like abominations and are usually sterile

>>82072319
No one disputes that retard

I swear you retards argue with non existent people

>>82071917
People fear what they don't understand.

>>82071917
>40k dislikes
>~600 likes

holy shit

If gender is a spectrum, then what about race ?

>>82072407
Doesn't matter how many chromosomes, if you have a y, you're a male. XXXY and XYY are male and will look male (also look and be retarded, but still obviously male).

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>>82072424
>No one disputes that retard

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>>82071917
>>82072319

Even lefties are hating this show. This is a leftist newspaper in Britain:

>Billy Nye Saves the World is a science show aimed at adults but, as Gizmodo notes in its review, "delivers so little information in such a patronizing tone it’s hard to imagine a toddler, let alone a sentient adult, enjoying it."

>The nadir appears to come in episode 9 'The Sexual Spectrum', which sees Nye invite Crazy Ex-Girlfriend's Rachel Bloom on the show for an odd, has-little-to-do-with science skit called 'My Sex Junk'.

>It's a painful couple of minutes that limps its way to punchlines and sees Nye pretend to 'drop the bass'.

>With a note of sadness, one former fan wrote of the presenter's show on Reddit: "Bill always comes off as frustrated, pretentious, or lost. I kept wondering "where's that amazing guy from my childhood?"

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/billy-nye-saves-the-world-netflix-tv-show-my-sex-junk-skit-video-a7703236.html

>>82072399
>Yes, but sex isn't
Whats the difference?
>If you're a feminine faggot who likes to wear skirts you're probably on the spectrum.
They're definitely on a spectrum alright

>>82072424
Gender isn't a spectrum, though. The guy who tried to claim otherwise had his experiment contradict his theory and ended with a suicide. Gender and sex are the same thing unless you're a tranny.

>>82072468
Yeah that's what I meant. But it's the argument they use. At least at my university

>>82072481
wtf i like Bill Nye now

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>>82071917
Gender and sex used to mean the same thing.

I guess gender is more subjective now. It still looks like there's enough sane people to keep sex as defined as male and female. Although I now hear the caveat "biological" attached to the front of it.

>>82072374
I feel betrayed by Bill Nye.m

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>>82072523
>woman-loving
>womon-loving
>womyn-loving
holy shit

>>82072456
There's basically four races, but yes, of course its a spectrum. Unless you live in the 18th century Spanish Empire and are trying to categorize every racial admixture.

>>82072523
Doesn't even have Straight or Heterosexual.
Triggered.

>>82072374
>get off your soapbox

fucking cringe

>>82072490
Sex is biological. Gender is is cultural/social.

>>82072490
your sex is based on your chromosomes and can never be changed.

your gender is based on what sex you mentally identify yourself as and can change as you change your mind.

>>82071917
>no Creationists invited on the show
>just bashing "God doesn't exist"
Bill Nye has to be the biggest pleb ever.

He is so awful when it comes to being rational with what may be actually true

>MUH ATHEISTIC SCIENCE
Yeah, despite there being dozens of proof of Ghosts, supernatural forces, Kundalini energies in our body and ancient Pagan religions who's rituals are still done to this day...

Let's all forget the facts and just focus on MUH ATHEISTIC SCIENCE because if science cannot explain it, then it isn't true despite all the evidence

>>82072523
Gender used to mean "sex"

Now these insane clowns have twisted it to be used as a term for their "inner character"

>>82072523
>the gay
>teh gay

>>82072399
he only has a bachelor's in mechanical engineering. scientist my ass

>>82072576
This is what I think as well.

Unlike gender, which you have only 2 variations based on chromosomes, race isn't determined that easily, there is an infinite amount of variations.

There are all types of people, from pitch black to pure white. This isn't the case with gender.

I think the issue is that many people are trying to conflate sexual orientation with gender.

>>82072622
But why would anyone want to be a woman?

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>>82072656
>only has a bachelor's in mechanical engineering

>>82072523
>bitchboi

>>82072699
I have a Masters in one month, who gives a shit.
Bachelor is piss easy.

>>82072656
Isn't a bachelor just 3 years of university studies (not american) ?

top kek, at least NDGTyson is a university professor.

>>82072685
>But why would anyone want to be a woman?
Not joking, I would love to be a young slut and seduce tones of guys.

Imagine seducing your male teacher as a school girl? THE POWER WOULD BE INCREDIBLE

>>82072645
I dunno. If you're a tranny, your gender is female, I guess. As in you want that to be your role in society.
But you're still a man, sexually. No matter how much they shave down your jawline.

Basically gender, like everything in the social """sciences""" is neither here nor there, while sex is still something that can be determined scientifically.

>>82072637
Creationists make Theists look bad m8.

>>82072699
that's not a PHD in Astrophysics

>>82072637

Try harder kiddo, 0/10

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>>82072717

>>82072717
When a girl tries to seduce a teacher it's actually pretty cringy from the point of view of the teacher.
t. heterosexual male teacher

>>82072728
nah Creationists are very based

Bill Nye debated a Creationist and guess what? Nye fucking lost big time!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6kgvhG3AkI

I do have to hand it to Bill. He is perhaps the only atheist to debate a Creationist. People like Richard Dawkins never want to for some reason. Why? If evolution is 100% true, it should be easy to debate someone who is against it?

Just letting everyone is this thread know that according to science, whites are dumb
https://youtu.be/lx_VoH0C8G4

>>82072637
>there being dozens of proof of Ghosts, supernatural forces, Kundalini energies in our body and ancient Pagan religions who's rituals are still done to this day...
>Let's all forget the facts and just focus on MUH ATHEISTIC SCIENCE because if science cannot explain it, then it isn't true despite all the evidence
I'm gonna need some sources on this evidence.

>>82072789
White people are the reason civilization is still standing today. I beg to differ

>>82072775
Ken Ham lost big time... don't kid yourself
>>82072716
NDT is literally the poster boy for affirmative action

>>82072798
>I'm gonna need some sources on this evidence.
youtube video where a guy recorded his guitar suddenly ring a chord and white particles floated around his room. Seen it in all other ghost videos where white particles float around - this is meant to be the ghost energys.

All you have to do is go on youtube and the internet and read all the ghost sightings

Yes some are fake but majority have to be real

>>82071917
You just mad because bill nye fights fake science

>>82071917
>zach braff -reddit hero
>tim gunn -old faggot
>rachel bloom -...
>joel mchale -reddit hero
>steve aoki -le caek meme dj
>will wheaton -king cuck

what kind of a show is this....oh le ebin nostalgia science guy XDDDD

>>82072319
>"biological sex" is only to be defined as Male or Female,
What about herms?

>>82072523
kek

>>82071917
I thought the idea of being trans is to pass as the opposite gender, kinda ruins the point if you need your own categorization.

>>82072685
>Not wanting to be a little girl
>>>/out/

>>82072374
I don't think anyone could enjoy this. It's actually pretty disgusting, honestly.

>>82072523
>>82072645
I was always under this impression as well. Almost as if gender was a less vulgar way of saying sex on forms and things.

>>82072374
*kicks knee-height*
*gets winded*

>>82072523
>goy

>>82072789
This cannot be real

This is parody-tier

>>82071917

Bill nye literally fucked up by falling for the kikes ploys

>Used to actually talk about science
>now he caters to snowflakes despite it's all about mental illness

>>82072374
This kind of shit didn't work for MTV, Buzzfeed, or Comedy Central. So why are they still doing this shit?

>>82071917
no its a predominantly bimodal distribution with variations in the 99.7th percentile

>>82072468
XYY men are of above average height are fertile. The condition is usually undiagnosed. I wonder how many tallfags I see actually have the XYY or even if I have it since none of my relatives are tall, while I am.

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>>82072523
>straight
>straight?
>straightly queer

oh god my sides

>>82073084
Because the people who make these kinds of shows don't care about social justice, just money. Bill Nye probably knows he's saying complete bullshit, but he wants another show and the best thing to do is to focus it on the kinds of people who watch TBBT.

>>82072523
>male lesbian
i guess thats me

>>82073223
SJWs have been proven time and time again to not be a profitable target audience, though.

>>82073229
Kek
>not being an android

>>82072481

in the uk we have brain cox

watch one of his series and then watch this

>>82073283
Yeah, that's why this show is being recieved so poorly. The people who make TV shows are always three steps behind popular culture.

>>82072374
So, I guess they are trying to give Trump another 4 years?

>>82072866
Hermaphrodites are like natural trannies. They have both XX and XY chromosomes naturally, so they should have the right to choose whichever gender they most identify with - considering that they were never even given the option to be definitively male or female from birth.

If it came down to it, they could just check both the M and F checkboxes for a medical report, because they really are a bit of both anyway.

>>82072523
>hi i identify as a stone and i'm an amoeba

>>82072714
Masters in Engineering in a month?

4 options total

>Male
>Female
>Both (hermaphrodite, super rare)
>Niether (asexual, super rare)

That is fucking it. There is no spectrum.

>>82074004
asexuality has nothing to do with your sex or gender. Its not an option.

>>82073907
Well, in a month I have to turn in my thesis.

>>82074004
super rare options are exceptions, there is no reason to add two more categories. With nearly all divisions into groups you eventually end up with some exceptions not fitting in either category.

>>82071917
I can't comprehend giving a shit either way. If some dude wants to be called a girl, I don't give a shit. It's not going to hurt me to just play along for a bit. That's their own life.

>>82074214
Playing along is dishonest. If they want to feel that way, fine for them. But don't expect me to indulge their head fantasies

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>>82072456

Race has infinite dimensions, but big clusters everywhere that are easily mappable and visible in just a couple dimensions

You can reduce the dimensions with stasticical dimensionality reduction techniques such as principal component analysis

>>82072523

>Gender Nazi

Que?

>>82074004
>Both
Incorrect, there has been no reported case of a hermaphroditic individual having both sexual organs develop through puberty.

>>82072645
No, even growing up I was taught that sex was biological and gender is what you identify as

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>>82071917
Always remember, the user score is much more insightful and tangible than the critics consensus. Always.

>>82074263
I don't give a shit if it's dishonest. I just don't get intentionally acting like a dick, you know? It's like when I'd work retail and the town's retard would start telling me these bullshit stories. You just reply with "Oh, that's cool." Maybe ask them some questions about it. No part of me felt like it was necessary to call the guy a fucking liar you know?

>>82074394
I do know, but I feel compelled to be a dick about it because this society has wronged me

>>82074004
There not even options because you don't get to choose them.

>>82074428
Oh well you're just a fucking loser then, man.

>>82071917
49 ratings, wow amazing.

>>82072523
tfw a polysnuggler

>>82074548
Yeah but you type like a faggot. I hope for your sake you're actually a girl because you have a very feminine aura and seem like you may have consumed some marijuana recently

>>82072319
Sex is what they're going after next to warp the definition of

>>82072424
Steven Crowder

>>82074344
Were you born in 1997?

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>>82071917
>yfw even the Mythbusters believe this shit.

>>82074725
That's just Adam Savage.

Who is a LE GEEK who naturally would go along with this garbage.

>>82074636
You type like the closest you've come to a "feminine aura" is when your mom squeezed you out of her snatch.

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DAY OF THE MICROWAVE WHEN

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEN

>>82074764
*punches you*

Can somebody explain to me what to fuck gender is even supposed to mean in English cause I always thought gender and sex are totally indistinguishable and if gender is supposed to be some sort of social construct that forces you to sew as a female and love sports as a male then how come it always boils down to bunch of degenerate sexual deviants that sexually identify as something.

>>82074725
>xoox
what?

>>82074772
wtf is dis

>>82074877
Vanilla Ice Cream dealing with all the degenerate idiots who ventured away from the one true path.

>>82074909
vanilla is shit tho

>>82074860
Hugs and kisses, I guess.

>>82074944
Yeah if you've had your tastebuds eroded by years of consuming shit

So is this good triggered or bad triggered?

>>82072481
>leftist newspaper
>the independent

americans are adorable

>>82074725
>Mythbusters
That's the comic relief guy.
What about Heineman?

>>82074725
>Entire show is about proving things
>Gets upset when people tell him to prove something

HA

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>>82075083

really gets your neural net CPU learning doesn't it?

>>82074725
Is he actually refusing to prove/disprove a myth? Whoa

>>82074725
>THIS IS TRUE AND DON'T YOU DARE ASK FOR PROOF

Really makes you think

How is 63 a positive score? The scale's 1-100, correct?

>>82075143
>>82075083
And remember Savage was pissed that Discovery wouldn't let him do a special proving evolution.
I'm starting to get the impression that for hard leftists the whole gender/sexuality BS they keep making up is like their religion.

>Behead those who insult Xirs feminine penis

>>82075231
It was but now it's 1-63

>>82075231
Not everything has to be 9 or 10 to be good.

6 is good, but good for those who seek that particular thing. Others will be dissapointed, but not disgusted.

>>82075239
Stupid sjw bullshit like this gender nonsense has nothing to do with the fact that evolution is real.

>>82075273
I'm just pointing out Adam Savage's blatant hypocrisy

>Wants to prove evolution is real so he can BTFO creationists
>Refuses to even attempt to prove the gender spectrum is real because he doesn't want to risk upsetting SJWs

>>82075337
Fair enough.

>>82074833
this ,wtf i dont even know the word for gender and sex in mz language ,its just one

>>82075273
That's not the point dummy. The point is he wanted to do a show to "prove" backwards thinkers wrong, but then isn't willing to "prove" backwards thinkers wrong and you should just accept his viewpoint.

>>82072789
is that how Buddhism is pronounced? BUHDD-hism?

>>82074833
>>82075372
This is how LGBT people describe it

>Sex
Your body/DNA
Wether you have breasts/vagina/ovaries or a penis/testicles, etc.

>Gender
Your Brain
What sex you feel like you're "supposed" to be

People whose Sex&Gender are mismatched are "transgender"

Instead of treating their minds they go through great pains to alter their body

>>82072424
Jordan Peterson recently had 2 debates, one on TV and one at some campus. Each featured gender "scientists" who explicitly stated that biological sex does not exist.

>>82073084
I hate to go all /pol/ on /tv/ but Soros bought a bunch of Netflix shares.
They are just appeasing their shareholders.

>>82073437
trump didnt win because of the neckbeard alt right. he won because of working class white males in the rust belt who dont give a shit about trannies, christians, and faggots. they just want jobs. if the next democrat wont be an obvious wall street shill, then they would easily beat mike pence come 2020

>>82071917
Anyone who says the gender is a spectrum is on an entirely different spectrum.

>>82071917
All the hate for it on here has made me want to stream it. I torrent everything, but between my roommate, my parent's cable password, and my amazon prime account,, I have access to every single streaming service.

Hoping for a second season since /pol/ seems to hate it

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>it's /tv/ mix gender with sex epidose

>>82074877
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46h-LfNWPn8

Enjoy

>>82075478
Would you treat your mind rather than your body? It sounds safer to treat your body imho, if you fuck your body up at least you can still think the way you used to. I know you'd say the first stage is fixing your mental illness but in this day and age it's hard to know who's really mentally ill.

t. transgender who didn't and won't transition and is wasting a lot of money on psychologists

>>82072468
Not if you got a mutation in SRY

>>82075632
Fucking mentally ill faggot

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>>82075620
>guys gender is just a social construct, you don't have to pay attention to it!
>oh but if a boy plays with dolls/dress as girl he must be transgender!

I heard Bill has a lot of contempt for the people who used to watch him in the 90s as kids. Is that true?

>>82072866
Hermaphrodites are either male with non-functional vestigial female genitalia or vice-versa. They aren't 'both' sexes, they're always one or the other.

>>82072374

>https://youtu.be/Wllc5gSc-N8

Shit, that has to be one of the worst performances I've seen on tape...

North Korea nuclear strike on ths US might be a blessing.

>>82075620
>its a faggot doenst want to admit hes mentally ill epiDOSE

>>82072456
Negroid Caucasoid mongoloid

>>82074004
if you find a misshapen, defective Oreo in a bag of Oreos, is that a new type of Oreo?

>>82073713
Most of them don't have both sets of functioning genitals so it gets chosen on that. Like a uterus, vagina, etc but with a useless micropenis and a single ball that never drops. They cut the penis off and may not even discover the random testicle

>>82075699
this is deliberately promoted to make people mad and shift to the Right so they will elect conservative leaders who support Israel

>>82075699
This is the absolute lowest level.

>>82075663
an SRY mutation is only going to produce a female, not some other in-between gender. In any case, it's more accurate to say that males have working Y-chromosomes, or functional SRY genes, and females don't.

A person with XXY chromosomes where the Y functions is a male, and a person with XY with no functional SRY is a female.

>>82074725
If he's going to be that relativistic than nothing he says is valid

>>82075699
You're only saying that because it would hit the west coast

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So hard to understand? Gender is a constructed series of roles probably growing out of how the different sexes needed to act in a tribal setting. Given that in a hunter-gatherer tribe a female often has a baby on her hip to feed it and therefor cannot really hunt, she is typically given the role of gathering food and herbs for the tribe. There are other more specific examples of the way females and males must live differently in such trpsyhodue to their psycho/physiological differences and the fact that females are the ones that must give birth. Gender roles, such as they are, likely sprang from this natural, near-animalistic system.

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>>82075790
Everything leads back to the same thing.

>>82074004
I thought asexual was an orientation, not an identity.

>>82072481
>I kept wondering "where's that amazing guy from my childhood?"
He was always just a fucking presenter/actor, I highly doubt he wrote a word of what he said on the show. People need to separate performers from their performances, it's how we keep getting the "WUT HAPPENED TO...??" reaction when a celebrity reveals themselves to be a complete piece of shit.

>>82075819
If incentivized by biology then they aren't simply 'constructed'

fucking kill me now and be done with it
i can't bear this shit anymore

>>82074004
What about numale, omega-male, chad-male?

>>82075819
>Given that in a hunter-gatherer tribe a female often has a baby on her hip to feed it and therefor cannot really hunt, she is typically given the role of gathering food and herbs for the tribe

This isn't a question of tribal behaviour - it's a question of biology. In reproduction, human females are more valuable than males, because one live male can impregnate a thousand women, but each woman can only bear a few children, one at a time, at great expense to herself.

Hence, tribal societies leave their women at home and send the men out to hunt. You could no more say that this behaviour was 'constructed' than you could say that not murdering your children is 'constructed'. Biology informs behaviour.

>>82075895

> simply
Of course not, it's not a simple phenomenon

>>82075603
Wow, you sure showed us my man

>>82075805
I wasn't arguing that. Just that it's the genes, not the chromosomes as such.

>>82075992
Sophistry usually isn't

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>>82075954
>biology has nothing with human behavior
ok.

>>82075819
OH LOOK IT'S THIS FAGGOT AGAIN

You're ignoring the scientific FACT that these gender roles are HARD WIRED into the brains of males and females. Do you have any idea what evolutionary neuroscience is?

Holy fuck you blank slatists are retarded. Kill yourself for being so stupid.

You're actually proud of being ignorant.

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MALE/FEMALE behaviors are literally hard wired into people's brains. It's sociobiology.

Why do leftists ignore this scientific fact?
Why do they think it's all just a social construct?

How fucking dumb do you have to be?

>>82075819
>baby on her hip to feed it
like a transgender cant do
>>82075819
>females are the ones that must give birth.
like a transgender can't do

if they cant do their gender role they aren't that gender. putting on a dress doesn't make you the gender.

>>82076043
We had this discussion a million times since Edward O. Wilson. Everyone has just given up at this point.

>>82072774
you are the pedofag we fear

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>even Gizmodo and Polygon are shitting on the show
This is a failure all around. Little science content and patronizing attitude that just fuels the other side

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>>82074004
>4 options total

No you absolute fucktard.

>1) XY Male
>2) XX Female
This is more than 99% of humanity.

>3)Genetic malfunction.
This is all the rest, from XXY to hermaphrodites, and they have the same basis; a chromosomal defect. This is never an advantage and most often leads to infertility. It's a genetic dead end.

Then you have the absolute retards who try to claim genetic malfunctions existing means that there's no such thing as what 99+% of humanity falls into. The existence of a small group of people who are born defective means gender is anything from male to mayonaise.

It's so fucking stupid the fact that it's discussed at all just shows you how much influence these ideological nutcases have.

It's like someone comes up to you and shows you a person who was born without thumbs, and then insists this means we weren't meant to have thumbs, that it's normal to "choose to be thumbless" and then hands you a knife and tells you to cut off their thumbs. He's a fucking lunatic and the reasoning is absurd.

The exact same bullshit is happening right now, sanctioned by the state and done to children.

We live in a world where a little boy is told they can't "make a vagina" by turning his penis inside out creating an artifical hole in his abdomen, because the hormones he's been on has suppressed his natural development enough that he's going to have a baby dick for life. That's a TV show "star" right there, a program sold to the public as a vector for normalizing this, with the best possible picture painted about being transgender being normal.

The fact that nobody is shown tearing their hair out over how they've utterly ruined a perfectly healthy young boy's life forever should activate your almonds. The fact that even pointing this out would cost you your job in many places should be a cultural mark of shame.

>>82076112

Humans also have the free will to go against their nature, and there's nothing wrong with that. Also, sometimes people are born with the wrong wirings in their head, explaining the existance gays and transexuals.

>>82075954
Woman are also physically smaller and weaker than men so it would be less efficient for them to hunt.

>>82072374
Holy fuck the cringe.
What where they thinking?!

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>>82076202
>Humans also have the free will
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>82075686
>oh but if a boy plays with dolls/dress as girl he must be transgender!

This is the kind of shit I'm legitimately worried about. I played with both gender's toys as a kid without putting much thought into it and I grew up to be a normal enough guy.
I'd hate to see parents putting their underage kids on hormone therapy purely based on their personality and behavior.

>>82076179
Do you think they would have 1 or 2 years ago? Is the tide turning?

>>82076043
>biology has nothing with human behavior
this is exactly the opposite of what the post you're quoting says

>>82076112
>Why do leftists ignore this scientific fact?
Because some Judith Butler word salad told them to.

>sex

Your body/DNA
Wether you have breasts/vagina/ovaries or a penis/testicles, etc.

>gender

How much of a porn addict and pervert you are

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>>82072374
I was only able to watch for 20 secs...

>>82074725
>Be a mythbuster
>Make absurd claim without any evidence to back it up
>Mad that people ask for proof

FULL RETARD

>>82072576
*5 races

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>>82071917
Reminder of this classic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR4uyMjUnDI

This scientific paper blows these social constructionist leftists out of the water.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0163638300000321

Leftists aren't scientific at all.

>>82072374
I've opened this video around 10 times since yesterday but I can't watch it to the end.

>>82072374
>Bloom was born in Los Angeles and grew up in Manhattan Beach,[8] the daughter of Shelli (née Rosenberg) and Alan Bloom.[1][9] Her family is Jewish.[10]

every time

>>82072866
that's less than .01% of the population

Bill: "we're enlightened and forward thinkers, but not everyone sees it like that" he says with a straight face. What a fucking joke

>>82076572
So?

>>82076608
Can someone explain the whole vanilla ice cream thing to me? Is it a segment of the show or something?

>>82076620
can you refute him tho? oops

>>82076645
>>82075621

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>>82076541

>>82072523
remember their gender can change day to day.

>>82076645
basically everyone is gay even if they dont say they are.

>>82076684
Thanks!

>>82076269
It's not as much as tide turning but maybe they're noticing that calling the other side idiots and being condescending, actually does more damage than good.

>Let me be clear. I believe climate change is real and human-caused, I believe that vaccines work, and I believe that most alternative medicine is a load of malarkey. Like Nye, I’m outraged to see anti-science beliefs promulgated at the highest levels of our government. Nye and I are on the same team—and yet I still felt like I was being talked down to throughout his show. How will the average viewer feel?

>>82071917
I wonder how long until they blame the alt right for this score.

jay get out

>>82075621
Does anyone else really feel the need to eat ice cream right now? I think it's the colors, the orange, pink and green are spot on.

>>82075686
>>oh but if a boy plays with dolls/dress as girl he must be transgender!
>He didn't have female friends as a child and play pretend with them and have adventures where action man and barbie go fight the dinosaur and evil teddy king in their super cool car.

Fucking hell I fear for the next generation.

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>>82072523
>byke lesbro

>"there are more than two genders!" says the man who dresses like a woman, acts like a woman and has changed their name to a woman's name
This whole thing summed up.

Disregard all the SJW nonsense that the show espouses, and you're still left with a really shitty show with a terrible format.

>>82075621
Lmao this is gold. No shit the vanilla ice cream will get mad, literally everyone else is a flamboyant LGBTQ.

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People will do anything for money.

>>82077178
whoawhoawhoawhoa, I get the whole gender is a spectrum thing but sex is a spectrum too?

>>82077207
Yep. He is the science guy, don't be a science denier.

>>82073713
>so they should have the right to choose whichever gender they most identify with - considering that they were never even given the option to be definitively male or female from birth.
>CHOOSE
>OPTION

So, you got to choose both your sex and your gender then? You stupid fuck.

>>82075621
fuckin choclate ice cream takin all our strawberrys

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>>82077178

>>82075621
>the vanilla ice cream is the bad guy
Subtle

>>82072374
I identify as a serial killer and killing people feels right.

How can there be more than two genders if they ar modelled after sexes which there ar only two of?

>>82077432
Oh well, I'm gonna take it as vanilla being a muslim since he believes in a diversity hating god. Problem Nye?

>>82075819
>Given that in a hunter-gatherer tribe a female often has a baby on her hip to feed it and therefor cannot really hunt

Equality for cave-women when?

>>82077453
B-b-but transgenders don't kill people?
>inb4 some news story of a transgender murderer
>inb4 aids

>>82074860
Its pronounced "zooz", and if your parents loved you they would have told you about it.

>>82072523
>male lesbian
wat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCTbFN0EsDM

>>82072456
yes, you can self-identify as any race you like

>>82076645
>>82076720
>>82076732
Notice that they chose "vanilla" for straight sex. Vanilla is typically used to denote the boring flavor of something. Why be vanilla (straight) when you can be something more fun and cool!

>>82076112
>>82076243
>sociobiology
People will STILL say /tv/ isn't reddit

>>82077525
>male lesbian
roflmao

>>82077560
Oh yes I noticed. Besides the obvious white color.

If these leftists want less division, they shud just abandon the idea of genders and act how they want whilst still acknowledging their own real sex. There's no need for these ridiculous names.

>>82075620
This gender is a social construct thing is just the greatest trolling ever

>>82077640

They can't, they're the special snowflake machine. They get further and further ridiculous because they can't put the breaks on their own machinations anymore. It would be against their strict code of inclusiveness

>>82072523
>gynadroid

>>82076650
I could by using the evidence of his show

Remember when people were upset whenever governmental organizations or groups were trying to determine or enforce a modicum of sexual issues, but people said "they that to individuals in their own bedrooms"

now its everywhere you look, being propagated by media/corporate and whatnot outlets. Why'd everyone suddenly become a fucking bootlicker (which is another fetish you should invest your time in citizen!)

>>82076112
Because saying that its "hardwired" implies that nobody actually desires to act in society as if they were of the opposite genetic sex. It ignores, and essentially tries to deny that there are in fact transgender people in existence.

>>82072523
Can someone make a post number roller for this?

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>>82077640
Should give you a hint they don't actually want less division, just more attention and bonus privileges.

>>82072523
>diesel dyke
>diesel femme

Is this Mad Max or something now?

>>82077771
>government
>media/corporate

It might help to understand these aren't the same thing nor are their motivations remotely similar.

>>82077773
transgenders are the exception, not the rule

>>82077794
should give you a hint that anyone who uses the term "leftist" has no idea what they're talking about and are raging against literal boogeymen.

>>82077861
But now with corporate shilling, people are demanding governments take action

>>82077588
found the radical leftist
please go back to r e d d i t

>>82077889
you can be a moron but still be right.

>>82075522
>I hate to go all /pol/ on /tv/ but Soros bought a bunch of Netflix shares.

But the ultimate blame has to go to the subscribers. If you subscribe to Netflix you're 1. an idiot because because the catalog fucking sucks nowadays despite enforced higher prices and 2. you paid for this show to be produced.

>>82077916
After citizens united, government will only ever take action if action will either protect or result in corporate profit.

Now imagine a situation where corporate entities whip people into a consumerist frenzy over a meaningless hotbutton issue and government did nothing, this intensifying the frenzy. With this situation in your mind, you'll have something close to an idea of the current reality of global politics.

>>82077889

Sorry buddy, if they self identify as leftists that makes them leftists :^)

>>82077963
Broken clocks are still broken, no matter what time it is.

>>82077463
Some cultures going all the back to Mesopotamia have third genders. Though honestly once you start dividing gender from sex gender becomes pretty meaningless. Is lifestyle gender? I might as well say I identify as a student that spends a lot of time on a Chinese cartoon website when asked about my gender.

>>82078017
How can someone self-identify as a gross generalization?

>>82075522
Soros only has 13 million invested in Netflix, literally nothing

>>82078045
goddamn stop slippery sloping all over yourself

the only people who take identity politics remotely seriously are college aged individuals desperate to figure out who they really are.

>>82077888
Yep, but it still means that gender is not "hardwired". The thing is, certain personality traits, behaviors, etc. may certainly be typical of one sex or the other, but that doesn't mean that they can't be exhibited by the other sex. That's why your post was bullshit.

>>82077861

Are you kidding me? They're so in bed together you can barely call them a fucking separate entity anymore

>>82078053
Your moms a gross generalization.

>>82078113
gender and sex were synonyms until some publish or perish asshole forced a distinction by merging the definition of "gender roles" and "gender."

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>49.5 percent male
>49.5 percent female
>1 percent who identify as other
>this is a """""""""spectrum""""""""

>>82078126
see >>82077994

>>82072861
The only thing it's missing is that camel. What's her name again?

>>82075478
'no'

Virilization is systemic. You could no more have an opposite sexed brain than you could have opposite sexed kidneys or opposite sexed liver.

>>82078162
Its probably way lower than that

I still don't understand what the leftist definition of gender is. Some kind of meaningless label that vaguely tells you what kind of genital you prefer to fondle? Some kind of style? an allegiance?
I seriously don't understand.

>>82078240
I used to think I got it but now they've come up with a seperate category called "Gender Expression" so its pretty meaningless, like the word Queer

>>82078099
I'm just on the same page as >>82077640. Assuming gender isn't hardwired into the brain then the line between gender and everything else that makes up an individual is poorly defined and constantly moving, and making up new genders or being transgender is just attention seeking. If it is hardwired then there are still only two, it's just that it can be mixed up with sex and there are only 4 possibilities (of which 2 only occur in 0.1% of humans).

What I see is people looking at the way society acknowledges differences between genders and wanting to include their sexual orientation, fetishes, mental illnesses, etc. into that so they, too, can be special since they have no hope or plan of getting recognition otherwise.

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>>82078162
Yeah. When you look at the electromagnetic spectrum do you get all worked up that the visible portion is over represented in the media?

>>82078240
It is really hard to nail down in simple terms what a huge number of different groups with different opinions on literally everything will define one thing as.

Because "leftist" is not one group of people. As the term was invented by the "alt-right," who are also not a single group of people.

Which is all to say "alt-right" vs "leftist" is essentially "boogeyman vs boogeyman."

>>82078307
Not the same, the visible portion itself is a spectrum

>>82078301
see >>82078152

You're basically trapped in a nurture vs nature debate and trying to say behavior is genetic.

>>82072523
>tfw gender challenged

I always knew I was special

>>82078321
so you can't define it either. Why is it so hard to define then?
Also I used the term leftist sweepingly as the kind of people that spends way too much time thinking what gender they are.

>>82072952
>I was always under this impression as well. Almost as if gender was a less vulgar way of saying sex on forms and things.

Sex and Gender always had different definitions.

But everyone used gender to mean sex because it sounded more professional and proper. Years of that changes the meaning for people.

>>82074004
Asexuals don't exist

>>82078375
I think I just explained that there is no "leftist" definition of anything just as there is no "alt-right" definition of anything because "leftist" and "alt-right" are not cohesive entities.

Not sure though.

>>82078321
>the term leftist was invented by the alt-right

Huh?

>>82072374
>"That's exactly the right message, Rachel!"
What did he mean by this?

>>82078162

How would you describe it?

ITT: /pol/ basement dwellers insist they know more about the subject than actual medical professionals

>>82074725
of course, he is 'gender-fluid'. Weren't you around for the Adam Savage nudes?

that was some kinky legs on the back of his head object in anus shit

>>82078391
>Sex and Gender always had different definitions.

No, they didn't. Gender and sex were synonyms up till the late 90s.

>>82078415
Distributive graphs aren't just black and white.
You don't just have clear spectrums or discrete categories.
Spectrums are nearly always on a spectrum between the two

>>82078240
Society is concerned with which gender you are.
Alice wishes society would treat her as more of an individual.
Alice sneakily includes one of her more unique personality traits into her gender.
Society now distinguishes Alice based on that trait and she feels as though she is more important.
Hence "gender" has come to mean "my bio that extends past Twitter and Tumblr".

>>82078363
I don't have an opinion on whether there's hardwired gender-specific behaviour that may become mismatched with your sex or not. I'm just saying that lefties are stupid either way.

>>82078352
Hahahaha, goodness. So why aren't the 1% of people that don't fit your categories a "spectrum"? And if we look at where this spectrum falls in relation to the two larger categories, wouldn't that indeed just form a larger spectrum?

>>82078198
or opposite sexed genitalia for that matter

>>82078026
yet they show the right time twice a day

>>82078482
Ah, so you're raging against a completely imaginary boogeyman and validating your "not even wrong" positions via response

I guess that's what I get for trying to explain why the debate you're trying to have is fundamentally flawed.

>>82071917
I'm glad my money isn't going to this shit anymore canceled 6 months ago.

>>82072699
He got that bachelor's in fucking 1977 and hasn't done any real mechanical engineering in many years. He's a washed up fraud and you're an idiot for falling for his bullshit. Black science man has more credentials than Bill.

>>82078511
Being right for the wrong reasons is still being wrong.

Its actually better to be wrong for the right reasons.

>>82078493
>So why aren't the 1% of people that don't fit your categories a "spectrum"?

They might, I just think they're freaks and should be euthanized

>>82072374
Just

>>82078531
>He got that bachelor's
It must hurt to know that it's much more than you've ever achieved.

>>82072374
I like Nye but this is possibly the most cringeworthy thing I've ever seen.

>>82075819
Lol

>>82078516
What are you talking about?

I took all my sisters' barbies, removed their clothes and posed them in the study library when I was a kid

what gender was I born as

>>82078578
Nothing that isn't established in the reply chain.

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There's no such thing as Donkeys or Horses, they're all just on the Mule spectrum

>>82078566
Nice projection. It must hurt to know your childhood idol is a washed up fraud. :^)

>>82078587
All I'm saying is that there are either 2 genders (biologically determined) or the term "gender" is meaningless.

friendly reminder that identity politics are nothing but a strained "nurture vs nature" debate muddled with idiocy and politics.

>>82075888
Not to mention he's taking the perception of the guy from his childhood. It's pretty easy to seem intelligent to a child.

>>82072605
yes it does, moron

>>82078549
Hahaha, thank you. I think this honesty is what is missing from these conversations. Quit trying to debate it and just admit that people who don't identify as male or female gross you out.

>>82078543
That is a question of morality, we were talking about being objectively correct.
Claiming a broken clock is "wrong" when it's showing you the correct time would make you "wrong".

>>82078627
Never watched his show, it's not a projection, you know very well that this 'fraud' achieved more than you ever will, both academically and in other areas as well. Well, aside from shitposting on /pol/ and /tv/ of course :^)

>>82078631
and I was attempting to explain the source of a definition of gender that was not synonymous with sex, and, as a result, the entire issue has become an extremely muddled "nurture vs nature" debate where people are stuck claiming that masculinity and femininity are inborn traits.

>>82078676
Never pretended otherwise. For the good of social stability degenerates and/or freaks need to be rooted out

>>82078707
>people are stuck claiming that masculinity and femininity are inborn traits.
I explicitly said that I'm not taking a side when it comes to that so I'm not sure why you're complaining at me.

>>82078689
A broken clock would only show the correct time for less than an instant. You'd need to ignore the fact its broken to pretend otherwise.

>>82078739
so here we both are, being objective and shit, and you're getting upset because you think I'm putting words in your mouth when I describe the debate as it exists?

>>82072523

Its missing a 'normal' option

>>82078762
>You're basically trapped in a nurture vs nature debate and trying to say behavior is genetic.
>Ah, so you're raging against a completely imaginary boogeyman and validating your "not even wrong" positions via response
I'm responding to these accusations.

>>82078698
So what? I'm supposed to be wowed by him just because he got a bachelor decades ago and never did anything of scientific value with it? Should I also be wowed by Guy Fieri because he knows more about cooking than me?

>>82078375
You need to get out of the house more, go ask your local college professor what his political leanings are

10 bucks if he doesn't say leftist in the ridiculous diatribe he spouts after

>>82078580
Librarian cat lady gender

>>82078803
he does*

>>82078782
Stop taking things personally on 4chan, goddamn.

The point is identity politics is a muddled nuture vs nature debate where someone will be stuck essentially saying taught/learned behavior is genetic.

>>82078631
*ding*ding*ding*

Yes, it is absolutely meaningless. Gender, and defining gender roles is just a way for people to concisely describe their sometimes conflicting sex, sexual attractions, manner of dress, etc. That's why people say that gender is just a social construct.

>>82078566
>>82078698
Bill, is that you? You sound extremely salty.

>>82078787
>So what?
The significance of his accomplishments is clearly beyond a brainlet like you.

>>82076901
I probably played with my friends Polly Pocket dollhouse more than any GI Joe figure. Thank God my parents didnt cut off my dick.

>>82078859
>Gender, and defining gender roles is just a way for people to concisely describe their sometimes conflicting sex, sexual attractions, manner of dress, etc.
Right. Which is why I hate this gender expression stuff. I have eyes to see your appearance and I don't want to hear about your sexuality.

>>82078887
List his scientific accomplishments Hosting a kids TV show isn't a scientific accomplishment.

>>82078973
>this reading comprehension
kek

>>82078729
I gotcha, I meant that as a general statement, like more people need to be up front about.
I am curious how you think transgender people threaten social stability. Like what specific societal catastrophe will they bring about?

>>82078859
Sadly it's not, gender is a huge part of identity so it means a lot. You also don't get to define it since it's linked with your physiology which is why the gender benders deny biology too now.

stop being a penis denier

>>82078959
Now you just sound like a puritanical asshole.

Which makes sense as opposition to identity politics (read: the people who will be stuck saying things that can be interpreted to mean "behavior is genetic") is primarily murrican.

>>82079015
What has he accomplished besides getting a bachelor's? Go ahead, tell me what makes him a top notch scientist.

>>82079051
I think hes trying to say you're both arguing the same point but you're mad, and getting madder, and your reading comprehension is inversely proportional to how mad you are.

>>82079047
>identity politics

that doesn't mean what you think it means

>>82078959
That's a really good point. But when your trolling for boipucci on Grinder, these things become more important.

>>82079085
I'm using it as a catchall for everything retarded in modern politics that is based in either race or wedding tackle.

>>82079051
He's an engineer, not a scientist, are you mentally deficient in some way? Honest question.

>>82072374
The laptop isn't even on.

>>82077513

They kill themselves in a way larger proportion than the rest of the population

>>82079047
I'm a "puritanical asshole" because I don't want to use a made up pronoun to account for someone's fetishes and mental instabilities?

>>82079077
>hes
Bad samefagging. Anyway, I'm aware that getting an engineering bachelor's is hard but it isn't the insanely massive accomplishment that you're making it out to be. Bill never did anything of importance with it, after he got it he got into the world of comedy and eventually became the host of a kids TV show.
>>82079136
He's an average engineer who never did anything unique or special. He would be a total nobody if he hadn't gotten into the world of comedy.

>>82079196
no no, the bits about finding implications of a person's sexual behavior offensive.

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>>82072319
Rember the guys saying slippery slope?
These guys were right.
There are two sexes and gender is a lie.

>>82079202
>he doesn't know how to check for samefagging
>laughingtwinks.exe

>>82079045
No, again you are confusing genetic sex with gender. I'm no penis denier, I have a "If You're XY, You're a Guy" bumpersticker on my pink convertible hummer with tiny wheels and rainbow streamer on the fenders.
Gender is more complex, and incorporates more traits than genetic sex, therefore the infinite subtle variations can have any number of labels applied to them, making the concept as a whole largely useless.

Can someone spoonfeed me what the hell is going on? Why are we getting all political? Is Bill Nye /ourguy/ now?

>>82078851
He can't help it, he's 4chan-reactionary fluid

Why is a mechanical engineer spending so much of his show talking about gender and sexuality?

>bill nye saves the world
>gender is a spectrum
>government cuts funding
not really helping the cause

>>82079234
Am I a puritanical person because I think all the degenerate and gross shit shown in gay pride parade should be more private than shown? It's the same thing, people should keep shit to their selves

>>82072374
https://www.reddit.com/r/BillNye/comments/678gwl/my_sex_junk_rachel_bloom_bill_nye_saves_the_world/

>>82079234
I don't find it offensive, I find it unpleasant. As do the majority of people.

>>82079281
hello and welcome to this autosage thread.

basically bill nye has a new show and /pol/ is freaking the fuck out.

>>82079185
Yeah, but that's not evidence of causality. It makes sense that their inability to fit into societal norms, coupled with pressure, ridicule, persecution and abuse they receive because of their lifestyle increases their rate of suicide.

>>82079349
>Am I a puritanical person because I think all the degenerate and gross shit

Yes. If you use the term "degenerate" in reference to sexual behavior, you are by definition "puritanical."

>>82079404
Not enough apparently

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>>82079202
He's credited with inventing plane engine parts that are still used today, he popularized science among kids and continues to do so till today. If he is a total nobody without any accomplishments, just put some thought into pondering just how much of a failure you are :^)

>>82079281
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46h-LfNWPn8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wllc5gSc-N8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rayxew89NyE

Bill has gone full SJW.
>>82079369
>/pol/
Everyone hates his new show. Even liberals are saying it's condescending soapbox bullshit.

>>82079360
That's on the same level as saying
>I'm not a afraid of spiders, I hate them.

and if the majority of people found sex to be distasteful, there wouldn't be people.

>>82079369
>>82079455
Thanks senpaitachi

>>82079427
hes just angry that no one cares about beakman, at all.

the beakman vs nye thing was so fucking weird growing up.

>>82079407
"Puritanical" is certainly better than "puritanical asshole". It's not like I don't support sexual education, readily available contraception and even abortion. Just keep that shit out of everyday conversation.

>>82079459
What's wrong with that? Are we so primitive that we must be afraid of whatever we don't like?

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>>82075621
>food metaphor

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Netflix is trying to hide this.