>Come here looking for Jack Kino threads >Every other post

>>82055688

Kinda.

I still enjoyed it.

I lulled at penis.

I thought it was a "gather the allies" episode mixed with fanservice, because the Scotsman said in episode 5 that he's going to find Jack and assemble a bigger army so maybe the people Jack helped will show up for the final battle

But I guess we'll see

Yeah I agree, not a lot happened. The penis bit caught me off guard

>>82055688
It was decent fanservice

not as bad as season 3 but its up there

>>82055754
She was naked the whole time desu

don't Samurai Jack threads belong on /co/

Recent episode was good but strange. The dancing part was weird? Why do they have to dance like they're doing autistic karate moves.

>when you realise Jack is still a virgin
>most likely to see a sex scene or some kind with cute reformed Aku mercenary because no more PG-friendly

The last episode was trash
Really disappointed with the mounted samurai character.

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Would you?

>>82055967
Because in the original rave episode Jack comes up with a new dance on the spot by autisticly doing karate moves

Dont watch Season 5 if you haven't seen the original series you pleb

>>82055967
It's a reference to Jack and the Rave. Jack has to "sneak in" to rave because the ravers are being brainwashed and he dances like that to blend in

>>82056003
You're trash.

>>82056003
Yeah, I thought it was something like Jack sees himself as that or its aku or just some symbolism in his hallucinations

Not some ghost who wants samurai souls, what the fuck

>>82056023
>>82056055
ah yes, I remember now. I haven't watched the older seasons in over a decade.

>>82055688
Aside from the cringey rave song and the pointless demongo cameo, this episode was alright

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/pol/beards are cancer, they make everything about politics and get offended over the littlest thing. So a cartoon that has a black guy but doesn't show him murdering white people is LITERALLY white genocide.

Anyway, last weeks ep was good. The spoilers confirmed the last 2 eps of the series will be non-stop Jack vs. Aku. I still want to see the jump good guys though

>come here looking for manchild thread

>>>/co/

Ashi is Aku
3 strikes, you're out, big guy
Screencap dis

>>82056288
>>82056266
>>82056244
>3 consecutive gets
HMMMMM

>>82056288
>the series ends with Aku falling in love with jack and giving up on being evil

How would you react?

>>82056266
Sorry to burst you're bubble but this place is filled with manchildren, you self denying manchild

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>>82056288
>MFW THIS IS PROBABLY GONNA HAPPEN

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>>82056288
GENNDY WOULDN'T

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>>82056288

sss

>>82056353
Hot

>>82055688
yeah you just watch your precious cartoons while the world around you crumbles
good boy, yes, very good goy uh I mean boy

>>82055688
the last episode was the last straw for me

it was just NOPE at the dick joke scene and I shut it off for good

fuck everything I used to enjoy is dead

>>82055688
I know everyone said it already but the penis joke really was out of left field, it was surreal.

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>>82056449
>genndy is secretly an SJW
just wait...

>>82056732
that's what made it funny

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>>82056288

>>82056756
>funny

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>>82056732
>mfw when penis joke

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>>82056288
No.....no.....you wouldn't....

>>82056883
>>82056288
SOILED IT

>>82056288
Add me on the screencap YOU FOOLISH SAMURAI!

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>>82056288

>>82055688

It was, but that's not an inherently bad thing. It wasn't a rehash of an old plot or recycled animation, just some entertaining callbacks to tickle the nostalgia gland.

The new rave song was shit. You can't take bangin' acid techno beats and replace it with poppy EDM trance shit

>>82057091
force awakens levels of callbacks
a fucking callback hurricane
aka, bullshit
>plus he threw in some feminism by ignoring sexual dimorphism and physics

>yfw ghost scotsman spends the next 4 episodes harassing Aku

>>82055688
The fanservice wasn't even the worst part. The worst part was how they couldn't think of a decent way to resolve jack's inner struggles so they just go
>Hey guys what if his inner demons are actually a real demon
>And then they lie to him about kids being dead so he wants to kill himself
>But then he finds out the kids aren't dead and he cuts his inner demon in half
>I think that would be a satisfying resolution to the themes we've been suggesting

>>82057201
that's pretty much the new samurai jack in a nutshell

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>>82057204
at least we don't have to sit through a SOILED IT reboot of SBT

>>82057201

>plus he threw in some feminism by ignoring sexual dimorphism and physics

por que? Elaborate.

>>82057392
all the feats of the girls

human bodies, especially female ones, don't do that

>>82055688
Last episode was shit.

>>82057459

I could understand this complaint for one of those shows on the CW but this is literal sci-fi with alien worlds and magic and you care about the realism of sexual dimorphism?

>>82057459
and by girls I mean the 'daughters' of Aku

>>82057512
not generally but this show exaggerates it to a ridiculous degree
the daughters of aku are depicted at being Jack level, which going by the first four seasons is has been GOOD FRIGGIN LUCK for literally EVERY other villain he's faced (with the exception of the robot ninja and the gatekeeper)

>>82057611
edit: as* being at Jack level...
it* has been...

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APOLOGIZE

>>82056663
Come the fuck on man, we get 4 more episodes and it's over. AND we waited over a decade for this. Why don't you shitpost in literally any other thread for anything else?

>>82057611

They trained their entire lives and had strength in numbers, only to get annihilated by Jack in the third episode anyway. I'd say it was a fair depiction.

Plus, y'know, who's to say the cult lady didn't imbue them with freaky Aku magic or some shit.

>>82057665
he never will

did george lucas?
did andrew hussie?
do jackson publick or doc hammer?
did jhonen vasquez?

no.

>>82057767
I don't really care about a group of girls being on jack's level but their huge swing in competence between episodes 2 and 3 was pretty dumb.

>>82057767
there's no saving this show because the only solution to that is this >>82056288

also, you're missing the 30+ foot fall that one survived, the breaking of rocks, the being able to lock blades with Jack (which is a feat in itself), etc.

>>82057832

Eh, to be fair, a black fullbody suit is easier to hide in a dark temple than a bright white snowy forest.

>>82057459
nigger, this is samurai jack, it's all stylized and was never realistic from the very beginning

jack got crushed by a 700 ton sumo once and came out completely unscathed

>>82057832
I think they realized they made them too competent at first but needed them to be there (at first) otherwise they would have never caught up with Jack (but once they did it would just be too obvious that they were being given author favoratism/handicaps if they're keeping up with Jack because... well, he's Jack)

>>82057832
It wasn't a huge swing in competence, Jack in the 2nd episode was caught off guard and wasn't in the right mental state. In the third episode he's the one who ambushes them. The entire first half of the third episode was him accepting that he may have no choice but to kill.

>>82057910
he's also been sanctioned by gods to defeat evil, traveled through time, and is apparently immortal

there's clearly something 'super' about Jack - but not these girls (at least until we find out they're all Aku - who has somehow figured out how to shapeshift without his facial color scheme)

>>82057978
different anon but,

I also notice they've severely nerfed Jack;
he's nowhere near as powerful as he was in the first four seasons (I don't think we've seen him jump good even once!)

>>82058004
There was nothing established in the original series that Jack was anything other than peak human who traveled and trained around the world. The immortal thing was only established in the fifth season.

>>82058063

Didn't he get out of that giant fish thing in episode 4 by jumping good?

>>82058063
Because he lost the will to fight. Jack in the fifth season doesn't see the point in continuing his quest while Jack in the previous seasons was at his prime. This was made extremely obvious with him seeing shit at random and flat out saying that there's no hope

Episode 2 and 3 was just him defending himself out of pure survival instinct

>>82057904
He killed two of them instantly by throwing spears while in the previously episode they were moving imperceivably fast and he couldn't even track them with a gun.

>>82057978
He didn't even realize they were human the entire time they were kicking his ass in episode 2.

>>82057962
I think they were going for a 'back to his roots' thing where fighting with primitive weapons/using the environment and shit made him more powerful but it didn't really come across because they really just slowed down the daughters until he can hit them with spears.

>>82055688
I honestly hated last episode

>>82058183
thank you, this

I loved in the samurai vs samurai episode where he fights with the bamboo - we clearly see how good he is with that, it's just insane-
ACTUALLY CRUSHING METAL WITH BAMBOO

damn Jack.

>>82057767
Do you think the cult lady is someone Jack has met before?

>>82058183
>I think they were going for a 'back to his roots' thing where fighting with primitive weapons/using the environment and shit made him more powerful but it didn't really come across because they really just slowed down the daughters until he can hit them with spears.

Both times he used a spear was a surprise attack while hiding in the snow. Again there is a distinct difference from episode 2 and 3, 2 is him getting ambushed while in 3 he's the one doing it.

>>82058180
major plot hole here:

Aku is also shown to be worn out which can't be the case; it's either one or the other.
1)
If Aku is worn out then Jack has won because now Aku doesn't have the motivation to hold a time portal over his head just out of reach anymore and he can finally get back to the past!
2)
If Jack is worn out then Aku should be happy because he finally doesn't have to worry about the one damn thing in this entire universe that can stop him!

>>82055861
Technically, but /co/ is shit.

>>82058358
Aku already destroyed all the time portals. He literally said so in the second episode, he destroyed all the portals thinking that he could just wait it out so Jack would die from old age but that didn't work. That's why he's depressed

Jesus christ, how is /tv/ this bad at watching tv

>>82058362
srsly,
no one should ever have to go there

>>82058310
The first death I can see. But the second one where the daughter in back just doesn't react in time despite her sister just being killed by him throwing a spear is just the villains being incompetent to even the odds some.

>>82055688
I thought it was hella stupid. Ashii meets all these people that Jack helped in the past, she's telling them that she's looking for Jack because he might be in trouble, they tell her how Jack helped them and then that's it. whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? why didn't they go with Ashii to help Jack? what the fuck?

>>82058404
Aku destroying all the time portals would have been a much better show than this

given the writing so far in this new season I can't trust their narration; you're going to see another time portal

>>82058418
The first daughter who dodged literally saw Jack come out and throw the spear. The second daughter who was behind her didn't. She could've been looking somewhere else for Jack

>>82058424
thanks anon, more examples of why the writing in this show sucks,

I think this one is summed up as: they care more about stupid callbacks than actually writing good plot

>>82055688
>kino

Why do redditors love that word so much?

>>82058481
No she was also facing him.

>>82058424
Because they don't actually know where Jack is. Ashii was still looking for him and they (at least the archers) just said "if you find him we can help." They have no reason to wander around with her in the middle of nowhere

>>82057806
No, you should apologize

>>82058547
why did newfags start saying kek instead of lol?

because people are sheep

>>82058560
No, she was behind the other sister. And even if she did see jack there was nothing established in the second episode that they could react quickly, just that they could move fast. Jack spent most of the 2nd episode defending himself, he rarely actually fought back

>>82058063
>nerfed jack

he's inconsistent. One episode he would destroy literally a horde of the best warriors and then the next episode he would get his ass handled by a couple of hick robots.

>>82058572
>They have no reason to wander around with her in the middle of nowhere
lame excuse. Jack helped their fucking lazy ungrateful asses. if a friend of yours, who you owe a great debt of gratitude, was lost and in trouble, anyone who isn't a dick is going to go out of their way to go and find him.

>just send us a text when you find jack.
jfc

>>82058362
This board is as bad.

>>82058358
aku is in hiding thinking a immortal jack still has his sword.

Also where's /ourguy/ with Mega Download links?

samurai kino

>>82058702
So they should abandon their homes to go on a goose chase to look for someone who could easily be hundreds, if not thousands of miles away? It would be far more efficient if they all looked for him separately instead of all together as a single group.

>>82058678
Booooooooooooooooooo

troll harder

>>82057665
Apologize for what?

3 good episodes followed by 3 shit episodes?

>>82058739
Sssssssuppp Reddit!

>>82058760
>It would be far more efficient if they all looked for him separately instead of all together as a single group.
but they didn't, and that's the problem. those characters just ended up, at least in that episode, as exposition/recap pieces when they could have been used to do more.

>>82058660
She was behind the other sister turned exactly towards him standing there. If she couldn't see the spot she knows her adversary is at maybe she should have moved slightly to the side.

He tried to shoot them but it didn't work because of their crazy ninja skills that they lost for the second fight. You even see him flailing around trying to punch them while they whip around being barely visible because of all the speed. They're blatantly just much slower for the second fight because they were ridiculously powered up to make them seem intimidating the first time.

>>82058760
but they aren't and he's also basically their jesus - so really there is NOTHING better they could be doing with their time

because an actual lord of darkness controls their planet...
not a metaphorical one

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>>82056019
You Fuckin know it

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>>82056288
hehe funny hehe oh god

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>they were naked the entire time
Live action remake when?

>>82058820
>He tried to shoot them but it didn't work because of their crazy ninja skills that they lost for the second fight

They spent most of the time hiding in the trees. He couldn't make out where they were

>You even see him flailing around trying to punch them while they whip around being barely visible because of all the speed.

Again, because he was caught by surprise in a wide open area and he had no weapons left.

Again there's a big difference between ambushing someone and being ambushed. They don't move super fast in the third episode because for much of the fight they can't find him or they're looking for him. Then when they're down to three he leads them to the tree.

>>82058819
The Woolies were looking for him though. The archers were busy defending their home, and da samurai grew old and basically gave up fighting. And how do you know they won't play a role in the future? There are 4 episodes left.

>>82058828
See above.

>>82055688
Last episode gave me massive feels.

>>82058910
Rewatch the first fight. They're running around him as blurs while he's trying to punch them.

>muh ambush
That stops mattering when everyone is aware of what's happening.

> They don't move super fast in the third episode because for much of the fight they can't find him
That's completely wrong. The 4 remaining sisters catch up to him and all know exactly where he is the rest of the fight. They just no longer have blur speed.

>>82055967
Found the bandwagoner

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>>82058994
I don't think you get what I'm exlaining

I'm saying Jack isn't the only one with a mission; literally EVERYONE else is dropping the ball in this world because they're not fighting against Aku - especially the ones who could/want to/should fight against Aku

>>82059036
>Rewatch the first fight. They're running around him as blurs while he's trying to punch them.

Yes, but there were 7 of them during that fight and they were all moving around. That doesn't mean all 7 were moving sanic speed, it could just mean that 1 went after his gun, 1 went after his tuning sword, 3 were moving around him, etc. at the same time. That would obviously be very disorienting.

In the third episode he whittles them down to four, so it they don't look as intimidating.

I don't know why we're arguing every autistic detail about how quickly they move, in the original series Jack was crushed by a 700 ton sumo and came out completely uninjured and yet regularly gets hurt by shit that would cause way less force than that. It was never a realistic show, all of it is heavily stylized.

>>82059156
Because most of them can't find him. Aku lives in a tower that teleports all over the place. It's implied that the Scotsman with his army was one of the few that could.

And even then we do see some of them fight Aku. The archers were shooting some beetles and the Woolies were about to attack an assassin they thought was after Jack.

>>82057235
>what is symbolism

>>82059246
>That doesn't mean all 7 were moving sanic speed
But they were if you watch the fight.

>I don't know why we're arguing every autistic detail about how quickly they move
Because you keep falsely claiming they're basically the same in episode 2 and 3, I guess.

>>82059314
A crutch so you can avoid things you don't know how to write, apparently. What was lying to jack about dead kids and jack being fine after finding out it was a lie a symbol for?

>>82059484
>What was lying to jack about dead kids and jack being fine after finding out it was a lie a symbol for?

How do you know the horseman was lying to Jack? It left with him before the kids woke up. And that's assuming we're taking the demon as a literal demon and not just a representation of Jack's lack of self-worth, in which case he definitely wouldn't know the kids are still alive.

>>82057708
>watching cartoons

how underage are you?

I think my problem right now with it is that it doesn't feel like Aku has won. People are having raves, there are all these resistance armies and fighters and warriors and it seems like everyone is all set on overthrowing Aku.

It feels at odds with Jack's attitude of everything being hopeless if all he had to do was just find his sword, too.

>>82058527
>>82058424
You guys are silly, they're obviously going to be back for some final confrontation. The Scotsman will likely recruit them for a new army.

>>82059699
nigger, what about all of the scenes in episode 5 of Jack showing the destruction

and the point is that jack doesn't have faith in himself, he constantly failed his quest to return to the past for 50 years, the fact that other people are still resisting aku shows that there is still hope and that jack is just misguided and doesn't see it

>>82059612
>And that's assuming we're taking the demon as a literal demon and not just a representation of Jack's lack of self-worth
Jack's lack self worth really kicked the shit out of ashi then.

The point is it's lazy and unsatisfying to have everything completely resolved by tying all of jack's problems to something unrelated to his earlier inner dialogues.

>>82059484
Jack believed that he had killed those kids. He was full of doubt, struggling to carry on, and seemingly killing a bunch of kids which was the last straw for him. Him slicing the ghost samurai telling him that he's a failure, brings death everywhere, has a hopeless cause, life isn't worth living anymore, etc. = him seeing the light and getting his shit together again.

>>82059812
>Jack's lack self worth really kicked the shit out of ashi then.

Because it's a visual representation of his inner conflict. Ashi obviously being his desire to continue and the demon his desire to give up. Yes it's shown as a literal "fight" but what it actually is from a story perspective is Jack struggling to make a decision.

>>82059731
the issue here is that you don't have a problem with this gimmick

and you recognize it's a gimmick...

we could have had a season where things actually happen; instead we get episode upon episode of stupid callbacks and no plot - not to mention the awkward, hamfisted transition into not having to use fake blood, among other things

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>>82055688
it was awful fanservice. literally the worst way you could think of, incorporating past characters like that

these characters should have come to jack in his moment of NEED, not just fucking aishi. and its all pretty pointless right? jack wanted to die because he thought all those kids died. all aishi had to do was say "hey those kids are alive" and he would've been fine. no journey across fanservice land needed.

demongo wasn't animated correctly and they didnt filter him right

the animation quality is dipping

the last 2 episodes sucked.

>>82059965
It's only one episode that was a callback (episode 6). And again how do you know it's a gimmick? There are 4 episodes left and they may come back for the finale. If all they were were references then why did they bother reintroducing how Jack freed them?

>>82056019
NIPPLE SALAD

>>82059965
and let's completely leave aside the awkward shift to pc/sjw values/rhetoric which have no place in this show (which is not meant to be political)

>>82059965
>the issue here is that you don't have a problem with this gimmick
What gimmick? This was obviously something planned from back when they still wanted to do a movie to finish the series.

>we could have had a season where things actually happen; instead we get episode upon episode of stupid callbacks and no plot - not to mention the awkward, hamfisted transition into not having to use fake blood, among other things
Things are happening, you just don't like them. We've had a wonderful variety of episodes, ranging from half of an episode spent in a dialogue-free foot chase to escaping the inside of a gigantic monster. Its been pretty fantastic stuff, and mostly in tone with the series it came from.

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>>82055688
it's amazing how a 90s has-been like Bill Nye managed to trigger so many /pol/tards and now they're sperging out and crossposting on our board.

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>>82060086
Oh for fucks sakes, what sjw/pc values are present in Samurai Jack?

>>82057611
they all get killed by jack effortlessly while hes essentially nude and has no sword

so no, you're wrong. sorry buddy boy

>>82060034
the episodes are flooded with callbacks! WTF are you talking about!?

and that's exactly my point! there are only 4 episodes left and FUCKING NOTHING HAS HAPPENED YET

its an entire season of setup for one episode of fighting that will (I'm sure) be a completely unsatisfactory ending to what has become this ruined show

>>82059947
There wasn't any decision that resolves the things jack was previously talking to himself about. It was just jack finding out some kids weren't dead so now past failures don't matter and his sword is attainable. Nothing has changed since before jack found out the kids were in danger, his brain problems just magically went away because he cut them in half. Talking about his specific problems was completely pointless if the solution has nothing to do with them.

>>82060112
>an entire episode spent inside a single monster
>b-but anon... stuff happened!
...

>>82060086
>SJW/PC values in Jack
>2nd episode jack kills a woman
>3rd episode jack kills multiple women
>6th episode the ravers and ashi are in revealing clothing

I hope you're trolling anon

>>82060168
See, your problem is that you've already decided you hated the show because it wasn't what you wanted it to be. I'm not sure what you wanted the plot to be, but this season has actually been far more story focused and active than episodes past.

>>82060168
The only episodes that had callbacks was 6. 5 if you count the Scotsman, but he's less of a "callback" and more of an actual character. If it's so obvious that every episode is filled with them then name them.

>>82060206
Stuff did happen. It was called character development. The episode ended with both Jack and Ashi dealing with their issues.

What were you hoping for to happen this season?

>>82060240
The blue dogs showed up in the opening episode briefly but beyond that I think he's completely full of shit.

>>82060154
>effortlessly
that first fight is the hardest fight jack has had since the very first fight with the robot beetle army (or maybe the gatekeeper)

and check the feats of the daughters of Aku in that battle - they're straight up level with Jack in strength, speed, durability, etc. (which wouldn't be a problem if they weren't human but the show explains they are and has not given any details yet to the contrary)

>>82060265
how about you name one new character from this season besides the daughters of Aku and that lady who trained them (and I guess the daughters of the Scotsman, but seriously...)

>>82060390
Scaramouch, New ravers, The weird emoji people.

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>>82060282
How about showing what effect Jack has had on the world so far? That episode where the jet mechanic makes shoes for Jack and his kids worship Jack as a hero was AMAZING - how about more of that!? Why is there no underground army supporting Jack's effort?

How about we finally learn about all this crazy supernatural shit that's alluded to in the first four seasons? What about all that cryptic shit everyone is always saying to Jack!? Will we ever get to learn what the hell they're talking about?

What about learning more about what Aku did between the time he sent Jack back in time to the point when Jack arrived in the future? The world in this show is huge and there's clearly been A LOT that's happened because the planet is covered in megalopolis cities and both aliens and new native species. AND NONE OF THIS IS EVER EXPLAINED!!!

and that's just three ideas off the top of my head.
I could go on but I hope I got the gears in YOUR head turning

>>82060181
Jack said repeatedly that hope was lost though, and Ashi told him that it still lives on in the people he saved, including herself, who is living proof that even people brainwashed by Aku can change. And if you watch the episode it's true, people are still resisting Aku and the Scotsman even says that he's an inspiration. The dead kids part was just the final nail in the coffin.

We don't actually know how Jack can get his sword back, but you can argue that Jack losing his sword is, again, more representative of him just losing sight of his quest than anything else. We don't see many details into how he loses it, for example. The "physical sword" doesn't matter that much, what's more important is what it represents to Jack.

>>82060086
Come on, man. You're trying too hard or you actually are looking for a Boogeyman in everything. If you're talking about how she's "way too strong for a woman" or ssomehing, remember that Jack literally carries her weight and saves her 10 times in a single episode.

>>82060548
>How about showing what effect Jack has had on the world so far?
They did that this last episode.

>What about learning more about what Aku did between the time he sent Jack back in time to the point when Jack arrived in the future? The world in this show is huge and there's clearly been A LOT that's happened because the planet is covered in megalopolis cities and both aliens and new native species. AND NONE OF THIS IS EVER EXPLAINED!!!
I feel like they're deliberately underusing Aku out of respect for his original VA. Honestly him being a depressed recluse is pretty in character for him, so I don't mind. Also, we still have four episodes left, so there's quite a bit of time for more things to happen.

I don't know, I'm pretty pleased with the direction the season has gone. As a fan of the original I feel nice knowing its actually concluding.

>>82060477
one new villain who's a lot like old villains but doesn't really do anything in the story (except one cool fight scene and now his story is slowed to a halt because he's hopping around across the world on just his neck)

The who? Pretty sure none of those characters are named

Again, not much there (at least compared to how the show used to be written where we basically got an entire world building profile for each new species/people we met)

>>82060477
Scaramouch isn't an old character, and the new ravers were from the reference episode (#6). You're so full of shit because the truth is, there aren't any old characters present beyond those in episode 6 and the emojis in the opener.

>>82060606
and never once does she appreciate this because girlpower or some shit - even after she realizes he's good and Aku is evil

>>82060548
>How about showing what effect Jack has had on the world so far?

But we do see that. The entire 6th episode was that.

>How about we finally learn about all this crazy supernatural shit that's alluded to in the first four seasons? What about all that cryptic shit everyone is always saying to Jack!? Will we ever get to learn what the hell they're talking about?

Like what? Be specific.

>What about learning more about what Aku did between the time he sent Jack back in time to the point when Jack arrived in the future? The world in this show is huge and there's clearly been A LOT that's happened because the planet is covered in megalopolis cities and both aliens and new native species. AND NONE OF THIS IS EVER EXPLAINED!!!

And why does this matter? Jack could have easily been sent hundreds, if not thousands of years into the future. What would you want to see? A montage of Aku constantly conquering cities that get more and more futuristic? What would be the point? There are only 10 episodes

>>82060621
this new season is starved for world building (and no, this last episode only touched on that topic in like... one scene: the scene with the sa-mu-rai where we learn he took over the tavern; the scene with the archers doesn't explain shit and unlike the samurai it's just another callback for no reason)

and to your second point, yes Aku is aloof, but he's also a mastermind who can and does get his hands dirty
-that being said I understand what you mean about Mako (and I FULLY agree), but again, this is more the story of the world around Aku and how he changed it; it wouldn't necessarily have to be Aku-dialogue heavy (but they really should have spent more time giving us more Aku character development that way because it would have been convenient AND awesome)

>>82060682
Oh, okay, you're just an idiot.

>>82060682
except the entire part where she tries to stop jack from committing sudoku and says that he changed her life

jesus christ anon

>>82060554
>oh no hope is gone
>ashi trips over hope everywhere and tells him it exists
>man good thing she was here to tell me there's hope because without her i might have had to talk to one of the bajillion people i've saved

>The "physical sword" doesn't matter that much
without it aku is invincible so it kind of does. one of his dialogues was specifically about how he couldn't get his sword and had therefore failed his quest. he changes his mind about this for literally no reason, the script just told him it was time to man up and go do shit

where are you even getting the idea that he lost sight of his quest? he knew what his quest is, he just decided it was impossible to accomplish

>>82060677
The post asked to list new characters and I did?
I think you're confused anon. Also, I'm pretty sure the emojis are new characters.

>>82060623
Not slowed to a halt, he's trying to reach Aku to deliver the message that Jack doesn't have his sword.
New ravers I was being a bit stretchy with, but they're still a new group of people, only the DJ, Olivia, was recurring.
Rescuing the emoji family was more about introducing Jack, and less about introducing the new race.

Also, some more characters: The Samurai Spirit, The wolf, Aku's therapist and the weird mud alien people.

>>82060693
no, episode 6 does not (see my comment below yours) - at least not to the extent I just explained

>Like what? Be specific.
FUCKING ANY OF THEM DUDE, TAKE YOUR PICK

>>82060872
>>82060925
think about that for a second
she only said that when he was about to kill himself... not while he was saving her life countless times, or when everything and everyone around her was confirming what Jack was telling her, or when her own internal monologues were explaining this revelation - no.
-only when he's about to kill himself

If she was Japanese I could believe it - and holy crap Genndy gets Japanese culture if that's the case

>>82060682
>>82061043
Are you this person?
>>82060851

>>82060955
>I'm the anon you're replying to in the second reply
Okay, so you're basically agreeing with me?
And the samurai spirit? The wolf? Just more supernatural shit that's now overflowing without any of them being resolved or explained in any of the seasons so far - great, love it (I'm being sarcastic)

>>82060929
It wasn't just talking to one of the people he saved though (who he can't find and, for all he knows, may be dead or cowering in fear) it was a combination of things. Ashi changing was another sign of hope for the future.

>without it aku is invincible so it kind of does. one of his dialogues was specifically about how he couldn't get his sword and had therefore failed his quest. he changes his mind about this for literally no reason, the script just told him it was time to man up and go do shit

Sure, but the sword can be also be seen as representative of his drive to continue his quest. It would only make sense that giving up would coincide with him losing it and trying again would coincide with him regaining it.

Also there is nothing specifically saying that the reason why he gave up was because he lost his sword. Suicide Jack tells him he's useless without it but never says that the reason why he gave up was because he lost it. The real reason why Jack gives up is because he spent 50 years losing over and over again, seeing people die, without any passage back in time. Jack losing his sword just coincides with him losing hope.

>>82061165
yes, but I don't care as much about the SJW stuff as I do about the other problems with the writing; I just find it really awkward in this show (along with the new 'adult' jokes)

>>82061224
Okay, thanks. I'm done then.

>>82061043
Because before that she was brainwashed into thinking that Jack was the ultimate evil and just tricking her, and it took her some time to realize that wasn't true. She doesn't start truly doubting what she's told until the end of episode 4, and doesn't cooperate with Jack until the second half of episode 5. And by the end of that episode Jack disappears before she could talk to him again. And even with all of that she still has doubts (beginning of episode 6 she hesitates to call him a friend) and doesn't realize how much of a hero he truly is until halfway through.

>>82061269
sorry if my posts were confusing; I tried to make it obvious when I was adding to a post I'd already made with another

>>82055688
>posting racist cultural appropriation cartoons

wow

>>82061326
this would be fine (really) if they just fit that time lapse over less episodes but it seems like they're taking this character development at a snail's pace because they're too lazy to make anymore more of this show

to maybe say this another way:
I feel like going from the old show to this new season we've gone from a wide world view with lots of people and things happening and places to explore and things to do and of course a mission to accomplish - to a claustrophobically close view with the focus pressed right up against our faces so there's less work for them to do (since filling up the picture that only covers our faces is much smaller than creating an exhibit for us to walk around in)

>>82061203
Ashi didn't have problems finding them accidentally.

>Sure, but the sword can be also be seen as representative of his drive to continue his quest.
Anything 'can be seen' as anything. Declaring something symbolism doesn't somehow excuse it from being bad writing or an incoherent plot.

>>82061472
edit: to make any* more of this show

>>82061178
The wolf is representative of Jack's ties to nature. There is a recurring theme in season 5 (and to a lesser extent the entire series) that Aku is an abomination of nature while Jack is not. In Birth of Evil and the first episode Aku is portrayed as something that came from space, landed on earth and took the form of a forest of gnarled, twisted trees. He also relies heavily on machines or robots to do his bidding and many of the creatures that are associated with him are mutated versions of nature (such as the robot beetles, the giant beast in episode 4 that swallows Jack and Ashi, or the the kids that become monsters in the industrial setting in episode 5).

In episode 2 the normal-looking wolf is fighting against these bastardized versions of nature (the mutant tigers with the massive jaws and tails). In episode 3 Jack and the wolf stay together and bond; this is to show Jack's association with nature. Jack also regains and rationalizes a "kill or be killed" mentality in the cave.

This is emphasized further in episode 4 with the ladybug going to Jack and episode 5, when Jack is able to get the assistance of the sea dragon. There is even a scene in episode 5 showing that Aku destroyed all of the trees except for one.

>>82061495
this anon gets it

>>82061748
"We can't think of anything to write"

"No problem, we don't need to have any actual plot; we can just have Jack get injured and have that as the precedent for him to go on a spirit journey with some wolf. No plot or character development whatsoever. WE JUST GET PAID!"

>>82061839
"Man I love tropes that take up an entire episode but don't actually advance the plot at all. Where would writer's paychecks be without them?"

>>82061839
Just fuck off, Samurai Jack was never story heavy. These past few episodes have been ridiculously plot heavy for the show.

>>82061472
It's at a slower pace because it makes sense. Ashi was brainwashed from birth, she isn't going to magically change all of her world beliefs overnight.

And it's really only two episodes, and part of a third. I don't see how this is too much, Jack being able to redeem someone is a big part of him regaining faith in himself and continuing his quest. The reason why it seems more claustrophobic is because all of the other episode were essentially one offs that were not one continuous story. It makes sense for the show to be more focused on a specific set of characters in a specific time frame for the latter case.

>>82061839
Are you fucking serious? They do have a plot and character development, you just don't like them.

You're a fucking retard who thought the show was pushing SJW shit:
>>82060086

Why should anyone give a shit what you think? You've outed yourself as a moron.

>>82061906
Because before it was episodic and now it isn't. Doesn't change the fact that the pacing seems real questionable and they do shit like spending an entire episode on references and wacky robot head hijinks instead of making jack face his demons in a more meaningful way than cutting them in half.

>>82061495
Jack was intentionally keeping a low profile. He was wearing a mask and armor in the beginning of the series

>Anything 'can be seen' as anything. Declaring something symbolism doesn't somehow excuse it from being bad writing or an incoherent plot.

And how does this not make sense? Again, Jack never said once that the reason why he gave up was because he lost his sword. Him just losing his sword emphasizes how bad things are and happens to coincide with him giving up.

If him getting the physical sword back was so important then why was there such little emphasis explaining how he lost it or where it is? What's actually important was for him to regain his will to continue.

>>82061839
Jack was never plot heavy in the first place. And it wasn't a "spirit journey" it was a way to characterize him to help better frame his conflict with Aku and why Ashi would be more inclined to trust him. Ashi was attracted to nature in the first episode and Jack being closely associated to it is part of the reason why she even gives him a chance in the first place.

Where can I watch the original seasons? Haven't watched this show since I was a kid and I'm really excited to watch it again, but I got to start over with the original. Anyone got a mega link or something?

>>82061906
No, the first seasons were a lot more plot heavy than you might remember:
-aku is released, Jack gets trained across the world
-Jack's fight with Aku and getting sent forward in time
-Jack's first fight with the robot beetle army and his start on the road to becoming the hero everyone in that world knows him as
-the continuing development of his physical skills whether it was jumping or learning some new technology, or learning a new weapon, or having to call upon a skill he learned long ago, etc.
-the succession of plans Aku uses to try and defeat Jack which, as the seasons progress, cover every kind of attack/vulnerability Aku can imagine for Jack - including getting pretty close to seducing him at one point
-the oppression of the people of the world by Aku
-I could go on...

>>82061914
no, it doesn't make sense - but not the way you're thinking about it

the reason it doesn't make sense is because it's not Samurai Jack! it's some new show that is told completely differently, has reimagined its main character somewhat, but also happens to use a lot (too many) of the same characters from the old show. It would make sense if this is how Samurai Jack was, but it's not. Samurai Jack is a different show that has complex world building, consistent characters, and isn't awkward and cringy

>>82061938
someone here has indeed outed themself as a moron but it's not me...

>>82062220
google is your friend

>>82062051
>Again, Jack never said once that the reason why he gave up was because he lost his sword
Other jack may not have turned to the camera and said "by the way boys and girls having the sword is necessary to kill aku so he can't achieve his quest without it" but that's still how the universe works. And it's in the same context as other jack talking about the quest now being impossible to finish which jack is unable to refute.

>If him getting the physical sword back was so important then why was there such little emphasis explaining how he lost it or where it is?
They showed where he lost it. What do you want them to do, draw a map and have him randomly spew exposition about how he failed to recover it?

>What's actually important is something other than the thing that is literally mandatory for him to achieve his objective
That's fucking retarded. There is nothing 'more important' than something which is required.

>>82062348
all I got were hulu links and shady "download this third party software to stream this show here!"

do you even have a link?

>>82062235
to explain more about my second point there:

it's pretty much the same difference between the star wars original trilogy and the prequels;
the original trilogy was a serious setting in the midst of a civil war,
the prequels were half slapstick comedy for kids and half plot holes with cgi and bright lights thrown in

>>82062395
9cartoon .me
you're welcome

>>82062235
Okay, so if simply explaining what happens is the plot then

>Episode 1
>Jack saves some people from the beetlebots, but leaves before they can thank him
>Ashi and sisters are trained from birth to kill Jack
>Jack sees a burning village, but decides not to save the villagers. He is then haunted by guilt and visions and changes his mind
>He encounters Scaramouche at the village and fights him
>He defeats Scaramouche
>I could go on...

>the reason it doesn't make sense is because it's not Samurai Jack! it's some new show that is told completely differently, has reimagined its main character somewhat, but also happens to use a lot (too many) of the same characters from the old show. It would make sense if this is how Samurai Jack was, but it's not. Samurai Jack is a different show that has complex world building, consistent characters, and isn't awkward and cringy

Again, where are the "too many of the same characters" outside of just episode 6? The only other character they brought back up to that point was the Scotsman.

And yes it is told differently, but that's because Genndy basically wanted to end the series with a movie and couldn't, so stuck to a miniseries. He made it very clear from the beginning that it would all be one continuous story. Were you expecting season 5 to be exactly like the previous seasons where each episode is self contained and Jack at a different place with different people?

>>82062395
http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=samurai+jack+season+1+episode+1

>>82062440
yes, you've almost got it - now let me help you:

you see how all the plot points you mentioned were not actually anything to do with character development and are all just scenes within an episode? those are not actually plot points; they're filler

>>82062512
another clear indicator is that the things you mention have very little impact on the story whereas the points I mentioned ARE the story impacts

>>82062418
thanks bud

>>82062440
also, to answer your question of what I expected, I gave a pretty good answer to that earlier here >>82060548

another point I guess to help you understand is that it should not make sense to you that they started this new season with a time skip. that was completely unnecessary.

>>82062371
You're taking everything way too literally. Yes the sword literally hurts Aku. But if we are looking at the series as Jack's journey as a character then it's about him regaining faith in himself and his will to fight. The sword is secondary to that and coincides with it. Jack gives up on his quest and defeating Aku, so he's shown without his sword. Jack regains his will to fight Aku, so he's shown with his sword. I don't understand why it's difficult to understand that him having or losing his sword is also connected to his state as a character considering how integral it is to his success.

>They showed where he lost it. What do you want them to do, draw a map and have him randomly spew exposition about how he failed to recover it?

In a generic pit in the middle of nowhere. The point is the physical nature of the sword doesn't matter as much as what it represents to Jack and his quest.

>>82060548
Shut up faggot

>>82055688
Fan service for sure, but it did do a good job showing Ashi all of the good Jack has done, as well as how she (through them) can reaffirm Jack's hope for the future.

The only part I'd really argue was unnecessary and kind of dumb was that blue-firey guy who came into the bar and then left it. I forget his name, it was one of those episodes I had missed in the past, but his cameo in it was pretty bad and out of place. Could have also gone without the song and dance sequence, but I get what they were going for.

>>82062768
I feel like the only one who smiled during the rave dance because I remembered the original rave episode where Jack danced with the pacifier in his mouth.

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>>82056003
>Really disappointed with the mounted samurai character.
>>82056069
>Yeah, I thought it was something like Jack sees himself as that or its aku or just some symbolism in his hallucinations
>Not some ghost who wants samurai souls, what the fuck

I totally agree. They made it look like this important foreboding and mysterious force.. then its just "We want him to KYS himself lol"

I thought it was more going to be a hallucination on Jack's part, another manifestation of his guilt like blue-jack.

>>82062680
aw, is somebody feeling stupid?

that was not my intention - nor was ruining samurai jack for you - I just wanted to show that you don't have to put up with this crap as a viewer. you can and should expect better!

this new samurai isn't worthy of you; it's like he never climbed up that everest-like mountain with those weird monks in just a kimono at all! I mean seriously, what the hell was that journey for if they're just going to write that he stops caring about all that (OR FUCKING FINDING HIS SWORD!?) during the time skip we know nothing about for apparently no good reason whatsoever.

demand better from writers. seriously.

>>82062667
>You're taking everything way too literally.
Because that's how sequences of events (ie a narrative) work. Samurai jack's universe isn't noncausal with the sword magically jumping in and out of his possession just because you're obsessed with symbolism.

Having the sword is necessary for jack's goal. Not having the sword is dangerous for jack. He would not have given up on getting his sword if he thought it was at all possible to get it.

>In a generic pit in the middle of nowhere.
Not really generic but I'm not sure why you think its exact location which they knew they would be covering in a later episode was so important for them to immediately disclose.

>>82062512
But nothing in his post had anything to do with character development either, aside from the first few episodes showing Jack's training. And even then most of his changes are strictly physical and not permanent. He remains a stoic warrior for most of the series. He never Jumps Good again. He never calls upon his ancestors for assistance again. If "character development" is just "guy got a new power" then Silver Age Superman is one of the deepest characters in existence.

In Season 5
>Jack is haunted with guilt and visions because of his failure
>Even refuses to help the burning village at first
>Eventually meets with Ashi, a brainwashed cultist
>At first they fight and don't get along, but Jack teaches Ashi that Aku is evil and a twisted version of nature
>Ashi, in turn, reminds Jack that there is still hope in defeating Aku, and that she is living proof that redemption is still possible and that the people he saved are still fighting too
>Jack realizes this and regains faith in himself again

How is this not character development? They both literally change from beginning to end.

>>82062879
again, THIS ANON GETS IT

>>82057459
>this level of looking for a complaint

>>82060548
Learn the rules before posting that image. I implore you.

>>82062849
Cringed

>>82062884
yes they are permanent (we do see them constantly, at least in the old seasons; Jack has apparently forgotten how to jump good despite being immortal)
and no, superman never had to work for those powers
think a little harder

just because characters make decisions doesn't mean something meaningful has happened - especially when all the meaningful things they could do are not being done! (except maybe you could say that means their actions are meaningless)
Jack is a character who affects both people and the world; by taking the world out of the equation you've essentially given us a different character who is not Samurai Jack (nor even a Samurai Jack that has justifiably changed - because he has no reason to and in fact HAS reason to do the opposite!)

>>82062928
yeah, that was really in-depth and pedantic...
eyeroll.jpg

>>82058358
Do you know what a plot hole is?

>>82063089
Well your complaint was just some SJW-tier bullshit.

>>82062991
same; you sound like a terrible human - or a human to whom terrible things are happening (either way it's not pretty)

>>82063128
I think you're confusing my post with another - I said the exact opposite - multiple times in this thread

are you even reading, or are you just trolling?

>>82062879
>Because that's how sequences of events (ie a narrative) work.

Yes there's a sequence of events, but that's usually the most basic part of the narrative. The major part is usually how characters change or evolve.

Jack is tired and worn out from years of fighting Aku. Jack doesn't think there is any hope in winning or going back to the past, and that he failed. Jack gives up on quest. To give a visual representation of Jack giving up on his quest, Jack loses sword.

It's not "symbolism" like a Christian cross, it's a representation of Jack's status as a character. Jack has faith in himself again. Jack has sword again.

>>82063093
do you?

>>82063188
different anon but I've said this point already now a couple times:

THEN WHY ISN'T JACK QUESTING TO GET HIS SWORD BACK!?

IT'S THE ONE THING THAT CAN DEFEAT AKU!!!

>>82063133
Yikes that's a lot of projection my man,
Cheers bud

>>82063193
do you?

>>82063245
this coming from the guy who started with "shut up faggot"...

yeah, I'M the one projecting

>>82063243
Because it's not the physical sword that's the most important, it's what the sword represents.

This is becoming tiresome, I give up. If you don't get it then I recommend you watch more movies.

>>82063161
Nice denial.

>>82063320
no, I get what you're saying (although you just confused the point by calling it symbolism) - I'm just pointing out that it doesn't make sense because there's no reason why Jack shouldn't be questing to get his sword back;

Jack has no reason to think he's failed - and in fact has more than enough reasons to think he's some kind of destined chosen one because he's had DIRECT contact with gods -
WHO TOLD HIM SO

it would be different if Jack were in an atheistic universe, but apparently he isn't

>>82063321
read the thread anon

>>82063188
>Jack has sword again.
No he doesn't you faggot. Why are you trying to conflate plot events with your psychoanalysis of the characters? Two different things do not become the same thing just because you've decided they're symbolically related.

I guess at this point it's pretty clear that you don't give a shit about the plot being incoherent because you never cared about sequences of events making logical sense. I'm not sure why you're even watching tv shows instead of declaring relations in patterns of static since the way events lead to each other doesn't matter to you.

>>82063287
Yup

>>82056288
I've seen way too many Ikra comics for this to not be a legitimate possibility.

>>82063524
I think what that anon was saying was that when Jack regains his motivation they'll magically write it into the story that he gets his sword back (convenient timing right!?)

that being said I'm with you - that's terrible writing

>>82063533
wait, so you're just calling people faggots because you're really a faggot but can't admit it?

that must suck
here's to hoping life gets better for you!

>>82060548
reposting this because I just can't overstate these things

THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOULD EXPECT FROM A GOOD SAMURAI JACK SEASON

>>82063698
Nah you just type like an autist lmao

>>82064211
Edit: artist*

>>82064211
>>82064472
THANK YOU!

I don't know how artists type but I'm sure I'm fine with that

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>>82055688
>it's another "/tv/ bends it's considerable contrarian autism towards trying to hate on a season of a show that is near-universally loved" rerun

Just more proof that syndication is a Jewish trap. Nothing that goes for it ever benefits.

>>82056019
How can 3D even compete ?

>>82065535
I've said it before and I'll say it again:

people are sheep who will eat up any stupid gimmick

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>>82056288

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>Unspeakable evil
>just blows up buildings with laser eyes
what did he mean?

>>82065869
I've always wondered this too

>>82060548
>What about learning more about what Aku did between the time he sent Jack back in time to the point when Jack arrived in the future? The world in this show is huge and there's clearly been A LOT that's happened because the planet is covered in megalopolis cities and both aliens and new native species. AND NONE OF THIS IS EVER EXPLAINED!!!

Fucking this. Aku's reign spans thousands of years. Ashi asks for proof for why Aku is evil and all he can point to is some destroyed trees? Lame.

All these abandoned storylines and one-off characters to draw from and instead of expanding on any of that
they spend the majority of the season on some edgy suicide shit. What a waste.

>>82066150
>edgy suicide shit
You mean an integral theme of Jack's character and a principle concept behind the Samurai code?

>>82066475
Suicide is an integral theme of Jack's character? Lol. He was always portrayed as even-keeled and stoic, unwavering in his pursuit of going back to the past. They had no reason to make it edgy.

>>82067095
It is essential to who Jack became after 50 years of fighting and growing hopelessness and isolation. Did you even watch the first episodes you idiot? It isn't "edgey", he changed. Fighting Aku, feeling like a failure, all the portals destroyed...it has worn him out.

>>82067095
It was in the show because they wanted it to be in, not because it was a natural progression for him. It doesn't fit tonally with the rest of the show at all. We were talking about what direction the show could have taken to make it less disappointing. Try to keep up, you mong.

>>82067461
meant for >>82067183

>>82067461
>It doesn't fit tonally with the rest of the show
That is literally the point. It is a different tone....I'm convinced you are autistic

>>82067461
>not because it was a natural progression
The show explains how Jack became this way. Fucking Christ. Characters change.

>>82067516
>i-it's an integral theme of Jack's character!
>it is t-t-totally not edgy!
yep, you're a retard

>>82067589
But I'm right you autistic piece of shit. They show develops this new character change in over 5 episodes...they literally spend time developing it, going over his feelings, his attitudes.

I'm not the retarded one here.

>>82067589
>show spends much of the first half of the season
>explaining Jack's mental state
>fleshing out Jack's feelings
>explaining Jack's attitudes
>"DURRR HURRR HE JUST EDGEY!"
kill yourself

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>>82067617
>unleashes a barrage of insults while discussing a children's cartoon
>calls other people autistic
you can't make that shit up

>>82067714
You are being stupid about this show

>>82067714
>WAHH PEOPLE ARE MAKING FUN OF ME ON 4CHAN!!
I don't normally say this, but holy shit you are reddit.

>>82067770
and you're being autistic. it's not "integral" to who he is, they didn't have to write in a time lapse, there's a million other ways they could've went with this season. this is what they chose and it is not paying off for me, or a lot of other anons in this thread

>>82067846
It is integral to who he BECAME as a character. Fine, it's not working for you, whatever. But you are def in a minority here, as this is probably the most well received show on Adult Swim, prob the best season of Samurai Jack in general.

You are just being a contrarian without offering any real criticism.

>>82067892
>you are def in a minority here
>You are just being a contrarian
how to spot a redditor 101

>>82067964
Both of those are correct statements and you literally type like a redditor.

>>82066475
>>82067183
Stop giving that faggot (You)s. He's turbocontrarianshitposting for attention.

>>82068003
Who is? The anon you are posting?

why isn't the thread bumping?

>>82068018
No, the anon that he was responding to.

>>82066150
thank you anon for getting it

>>82067617
but that's stupid because we understood Jack's feelings before - he wasn't one dimensional

Jack is a good person who aims to do right and him being conflicted about that is REALLY stupid because he actually has gods (REAL GODS) to tell him he has a purpose and a quest

>>82068338
and you can still give us more of Jack's 'emotional internal monologue' without wasting 6 episodes on NOTHING BUT THAT SHIT

yeah, super lame

>>82068338
>>82068366
PERFECT EXAMPLE:
the episode where he climbs the mountain with the monks!

that episode is basically the exact same character development arc that they just wasted 6 episodes on (and probably a few more before the last episode where he'll FINALLY get his sword back and fight Aku)

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>>82067892
I'm starting to think that judging by this thread it's not being as well received as you're saying

these problems we're mentioning did not take a whole lot of brain power to articulate and it's pretty clear the people writing this show just phoned everything in from the beginning and don't give a shit except about how the animation looks (which is a standard that was already present in the first show so basically we lost everything but that in this new season)

>>82068465
You are such a joyless fuck, aren't you?