INTERNATIONAL TRAILER FOR JUSTICE KINO https://youtu.be/WfSZSEtuo90

Looks like shit.

I didn't watch it yet.

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too little, too late, DCfags

>>81995624
THIS MOVIE WILL LITERALLY BLOW THE MARVEL SHITTY-O VERSE OUT OF THE WATER

>This movie bothers me!
So don't watch it. Fucking loser.

>>81995581
>QUIPS QUIPS AND MORE QUIPS
we want the MCU audience

>>81995683
im sure that we dont need to copy anyone to become the most successful franchise of all time

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What is that big exploding thing?

>>81995771

>we

is this a shitty /sp/ meme?

>come together

>>81995581
oh god Batman looks so ridiculous when he says "my turn". holy fucking shit.

why is it so dark? I can't see shit

>>81995941 t. not seen more than two films
Thats colour grading friend.

>>81995624
Takes reviews seriously what did he mean by this?

>>81995941
>why is it so dark
is it your first DC movie?

>>81995581
From the looks of that, Mamoa killing it.

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>>81995624
Intresting

>>81995941
Have you heard of alien vs predator requiem

>>81995581
Thanks for sharing, but it doesn't cover any ground that the first trailer covered. Even less, in fact.

>>81995828
Basically a Bat-Mech. I think it's called the Nightcrawler.

>>81996552
yeah, it's just a reminder like "hey, Justice League is coming" and completely forgetting Wonder Woman which is coming much sooner and in need of more promotion.

>>81995581
>tfw I lived to see Aquaman trending globally on twitter for almost three hours
Based Snyder

>>81995941
You're watching it on a 5 inch screen. Also there was no point in making a thread when this has 0 new footage.

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>>81995581
NOO NOO NOOO NOO NOOO NOOO

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>>81997872
HAHAAHA SUCK IT DC IS NOW THE KINO

MARVEL KEKS ON SUICIDE WATCH

I'm one of those people who think that Batman v Superman is a misunderstand masterpiece and to be perfectly honest I think this looks like just another "There are super heroes. They fight evil alienst. Occasionally one of the say a one liner" movie. So, basically everything Batman v Superman thankfully wasn't.

>>81997927
Please dont use Sams image you cuck.

>>81998006

Hopefully this movie is actually coherent unlike BvS as well.

>>81995581
>Gal Gadot, Ben Affleck Action Movie

>>81995581

WIFN

I haven't seen the films but why does he have a robot voice? where's the voice changer?

>>81998229
The thief who murdered Bruce's parents also shot him in the throat, so he needs a device to speak

>>81998229

>but why does he have a robot voice? where's the voice changer?

It's exactly the same as in BvS, re-read your post and tell me if you think that makes any sense

>>81998279
>I haven't seen the films
>it's exactly the same as in BvS

you need to euthanise yourself anon

>>81995581
Why is there a nigger in this movie?

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>>81998229

>why does he have a robot voice? where's the voice changer?

He IS using a voice changer, Bale's gravel shit no longer allowed.

>>81998332

Geoff Johns wanted the only Green on the team to be a Lantern

>>81998409
>where's the voice changer?
>He IS using a voice changer

wow, thanks for clearing up absolutely nothing.

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>>81998463

OK, time out what exactly do you want, the location of it? It's a throat mike built into the cowl of the suit.

>>81995941
Its shot in poetic Snydervision.

Too bad about the quipshit. If I wanted an action comedy I would watch Marvel. And I dont. Because I hate the abuse of quipping.

>>81998142
Hero punches bad dude and quips. Of course you will be able to understand it! Just like Marvel!

>>81998517
That's what I wanted, thanks anon
I didn't know throat microphones were a thing
it's certainly less awkward than SWEARTOME

>>81998596

>Because I hate the abuse of quipping.

You guys talk more about quipping than it actually happens in the fucking movies so I wonder when you'll stop.

>>81995581
This looks so shit

>Horrible color grading
>quips
>horrible cgi

Btw I hate the MCU so dont call me a marvelcuck

>>81998653
Yeah no, watch the airport scene in Civil War again, its literally 1 punch 1 quip, 1 punch 1 quip. Almost made me fast forward that crap.

>>81998689
I understand you. I see this, and I ask where is the KINO? Where is the passion? Where is the drama?

The dream is dead. From now on everything is the MCU. DC, Fox, Star wars, everything.

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>>81998637

You should check out BvS Ultimate Cut for yourself, everybody's got their criticisms but one of my favorite things is how it makes Batman fit perfectly into a world of superhumans by having him performs physical feats that are just at the cusp of unbelievable, stuff you'd see in the cartoon like disappear in seconds if you look away

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All capeshit is trash

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>>81998744
>where is the KINO
It died in BvS anon

Expect nothing but quips and low quality writing.

We wont ever get a serious toned movie like BvS again because critics and normies cried that the movie sucked cos had no humor...

>>81998800
Triple dubs can't lie

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>>81998899
>mfw we could have had a serious dark Justice League with Bruce still haunted by his past as he begins to redeem himself after Superman's death

NAHHHH GUYS QUIPS I'M RICH xD ROCK AND POP SONGS AQUAMAN AND FLASH ACTING QUIRKY. COME AND PAY TO SEE THIS NORMIES COS ITS FUN ;)

I am so sad

>>81998992
Im just crossing my fingers the trailer is normie bait like BvS 2nd trailer, and the actual movie is not.

BvS 2nd trailer was a compilation of all the jokes, oneliners and quips. The actual movie had a different tone. Zack Snyder wouldnt betray us, right? Im sure he is well aware of the Kino meme by now. Everyone spams his twitter and facebook with Jesus Christs photoshoped with Snyder's face. He knows he has a cult. HE CANT TURN ON US.

>>81998776
Batman's legitimately supernatural in that scene.

>>81999171
Peak human™

>>81999197
Peak Human, and Trade Marked no less. I can dig it.

>>81995581

>>when the international is just the regular trailer with the same or less footage but every site memes it as news

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>>81995581
Has anyone else listened to this? It's a long interview with Batfleck's main stunt double. Most of it is about what it's like working with Snyder and all it took to do the BvS scenes. Next time you're at the gym give it a listen. The story around the Knight are scene is especially hilarious www.holybatcast.com/podcast/holy-batcast-101-richard-cetrone-stunt-batman-in-batman-v-superman/2017/4/17

I thought there were going to be 4 after-credits scenes in this trailer

>>81999973
>Next time you're at the gym give it a listen
Never figured I could listen to stuff other than music at the gym. Might give it a try

>>81995624

>Ang Lee's Hulk
>part of the MCU

Pick one.

>>81998689
I kinda agree, but Momoa seems to be good (for Hollywood blockbuster standards), and I don't know if it's just me but Cyborg looked a bit better.
It'll still be a shit movie, because Snyder's still directing.

>>82001520
Damn sure its not. Hulkino 2003 would be impossible to make in the MCU.

Daily reminder that Ang Lee just like Snyder, did nothing wrong.

How will they nerf Flash and explain that he's not the most powerful of them all?

>>82001724
He doesnt seem nerfed at all in the trailer. They will make him stupid. Just like JL animated series did with Martian and Flash in 99% of the episodes.

>>82001724
He nerfs himself since his powers cause collateral damage.

I understand why they are doing it, but I wish they didn't go with a bro-fist type aesthetic. I fondly remember the old Justice League cartoon intro that treated them as the highest pantheon of Earth's protectors, the world's shining knights.

Get a load of this true kino https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXph0arElKs

>>81996513
>Mummy
OMG assasinate them please

>>81999171
I fucking love it. What we're seeing is what the *cop* is seeing, which is something that might not technically be human skitter along the ceiling, but what's actually happening is Bruce swinging to another handhold and firing his grappling gun while his cap obscures it.

It's fantastic.

>>82002564
In this regard Bruce Wayne's not unlike a technomage, using technique and technology to give an affect of something else entirely. Sadly, the Studios, instead of releasing two movies, perhaps the blockbuster, Batman Versus Superman with an idea similar to the comic and animated versions, they decided to Cram, too much stuff into one film and the over all message of the film suffers. it wasn't at all Snyder's doing.

>>82001724
I'm betting that it'll partially be explained by a combination of the Speed Force letting him sidestep physics and him just converting into energy above a certain threshold, meaning that he can only put so much momentum behind anything he does.

>>82002700
I hope at some point we see him do cool things with his suit's built-in speakers and voice modulator. Like use the speakers for echolocation and maybe even have some little sticky speakers he can fire or otherwise plant all over the place, and make it sound as if his voice is coming from everywhere, or somewhere other than where he's hiding.

>>82002700
Yeah I remember it used to be 2 films, and it kinda shows. WW has nothing to do in the movie.

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>>81999973
>www.holybatcast.com/podcast/holy-batcast-101-richard-cetrone-stunt-batman-in-batman-v-superman/2017/4/17
>Holocoast was a joke
Jesus Christ, was it really necessary information, dude? Aren't you promoting movie or something?

>>82003132
Not listening that shit, give me a meme arrow summary

>>81998006
I agree entirely. I still can't wait but I think it's safe to say there won't be another DCEU movie like BvS

>>82002564
remember the security footage of Batman at Lexcorp from BvS? why the fuck would they cut that.

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>>82003482

>>81995941
t. uncultured pleb

>>82003273
>jews did 9/11
>Trump betrayed us when he bombed Syria
>i was Batman fan since like 5 years, always wanted to touch this kind of industry
>Holocoast was a joke
That's what I listned so far

>>82003501
yes. this was fucking awesome. it makes you understand why Batman is a myth figure with criminals

>>82003482
>>82003501

That shit was so fucking awesome. I understand why they cut it, though. Just seeing the aftermath allows him to keep some mystique.

>dem spent shell casing
>firing at a fucking ghost

>>81995581
HAHAHAAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>81995581

REEEEE WHERE IS MY HUSBANDO?

>>81995581
Kino's on its way boys!

>>82003725
snyder hates him

>>82003725
Don't worry. He'll be there.

And he's bringing the sun back with him.

>>81999085
>Everyone spams his twitter and facebook with Jesus Christs photoshoped with Snyder's face.
please say this is real

>>82003897
Oh it's very real. And I'm sure he knows we're legit fans.

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>>81995581
>COOL
>VERY COOL

>>82002866
I really want to see him use the echo location using the mobile phone. That's technology that was the precursor to touch screen, it was like a way of telling where your finger was instead of having you touch the screen because touch based technology wasn't invented yet. Echo location. Could you imagine Bruce utilizing echo location along with any number of gadgets like voice projection from a mobile phone or noise manipulation so you'd think he was behind you or beneath you or above you. My word,that would be classic.

>>82003076
The feminist movement had thoroughly infected everyone and everything so they wanted to give Wonder Woman an outting to bolster her planned project. So they threw JL in there, and Wonder Woman. It was originally just Superman being a puppet of the General. Well not really a puppet, at least i hope not. that was the rumor. And he and bats would come to blows because of some terrorist group that was operating in both Gotham and Metropolis. I think Metallo was supposed to be the bad guy. Because they involved Wonderwoman, you had to do something to warrant Wonderwoman. And then they didn't want to do Man of Steel 2 anymore so all those things came to a head.

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>>82005083

>>81995581
Jesus Christ.

>>81996224
>can't green text properly
What did reddit mean by this?

>>81995624
>let me provide evidence of how bias and paid the critics are
way to sabotage yourself, drone

>>82004862
>Because they involved Wonderwoman, you had to do something to warrant Wonderwoman

With the story they told, you stopped to consider exactly why Diana was in Metropolis and why she was invited to Lex's charity dinner?

My bet is that she only found out he had that photo when he told her.

>>81995581
>cinematography
>lighting
>making an effort to have a certain style

Well shit. You don't see that in marvel capeshit which makes it a point to make their movies look like they were directed by amateurs who only know the basics.

>>82005267
>My bet is that she only found out he had that photo when he told her.

She did look surprised at seeing her own photo in the email

>>81995581
honestly, looks like a fucking blast.
Im loving this old vindictive miller-esque but not quite miller anger level batman. It works for me.

>>82005356
Diana was there to deal with whichever of the two survived - Doomsday or freshly-framed Clark. Now ask yourself how long you think Waller had been sitting on that Task Force X proposal and how much more attractive it would have been to the brass if one of those super-convicts was Superman himself.

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>>81995603
fpbp

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>>81998776
This is hilariously awful

>>81995581
>not even 7 seconds in and it has pointless slo-mo bullshit
Is Snyder ever going to learn to how direct a movie?

>>82006204
There's not a fucking thing wrong with that. Trying to claim that there is only makes you look like a dickhead.

>>82003574
Sounds kino

>>82006475
>Trying to claim that there is only makes you look like a dickhead.
Go to bed, Zack.

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>>82006152
Why does her head look like it was copy pasted onto the body?
It's fucking weird.

Does anyone else feel and see this as I do?

>>82003482
>>82003501
Oh, was that not in the original cut? Should I bother watching the theatrical cut of BvS some day?

>>81995581
>international version
>minimal black man
yup

>>82006282
How is slowmo pointless?

Looks dark, like not the them, but the lighting is so poor.

>>82007802
>he says as F8 of the Furious is destroying the international box office
You tried at least

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ayy lmao
still havent fixed it

>>82007625

Nah. UC is the real movie

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>>81995581

I just... I just wanna know where he is...

>>82008625
He's in Arkham. Probably recruiting.

>>81998632
>tfw too dumb to understand Snyder Jesus symbolism and King Arthur reference

>>81995624
>>81995581
DC comic fan here. The big 2 have horrible predictable movies made for brainlets.

>>82009021

Recruiting what?

>>81995624
>>81995581
>Marvel comics are trash and selling horrible to the point that they might just up and quit comics
>DC comics owning the comic book industry by the balls
>B-But muh movies

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The only good thing about Justice League coming out is the fact that this is Snyder's last movie.

Who the fuck let this idiot use a older batman. Who decided that was a good idea. "Let's introduce batman! Let's make him old so that we can only do like 2 batman movies!" Genius Snyder.

"Oh let's do the death of superman in his 2nd movie", fucking briliant.

"Oh let's blow up metropolis in superman's 1st movie, FUCKING GENIUS!!!!!"

I think the best way forward now is to just reboot the entire universe. Start with a Batman film and make him young. Don't deconstruct superman in his first movie and have him die in the 2nd. Snyder fucked over the future of the DCEU pretty fucking hard.

>>81998409
You fucking retard. He is asking where the voice changer is located on Batman. Not questioning it's absence

>>82009359
Anal annihilation.

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>>82006204

>>82009359
Followers.

How are Batman and Captain America both peak human? Batman I can buy, but Capt is LITERALLY a superhuman at every level.

I can see a decathlon athlete reaching Bats levels over a lifetime, no one can reach Cap... he takes punishment waaay above peak human.

>>82010050
They stopped pretending with Cap during The Winter Soldier. The elevator scene comes to mind.

>>82010050
Super soldier serum, plus he's more op in the comics.

His shield is legitimately op, oh I can just throw the shield and take out 5 people. It's ridiculous.

These ding-dongs still gettin fooled by a couple flashy trailers, showing cool moments and visuals. Wait till they are in the theatre and realise Snyder yet again has bu-fued them into a dumb, mischaracterised movie. Just watch.

Also love how these fukin straight up jerbronies will now use the warranted poor reception of BVS to try and excuse the inevitable short comings of JL.

Like adding shitty one liners was all the critics wanted? Seriously?

Dude just accept your shit wont get better than Nolan-verse.

>>82010213
I know about the serum, but they claimed it would turn him into peak human not superhuman when the evidence is exactly the opposite

>>82010094
Anything official on it? Or we are supposed to take it as a retcon?

>>82010305
Fuck off, Nolan-fag. You wouldn't know good characterization if it sat on your face and shat.

>>82010346
Nothing official, but the power creep is pretty clear.

>>81998776
>>82003501

kinda plays on this theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP4bxXZ3rXc

>>82010346
>KNOWN SUPERHUMAN POWERS: Captain America has agility, strength, speed, endurance, and reaction time superior to any Olympic athlete who ever competed. The Super-Soldier formula that he has metabolized has enhanced all of his bodily functions to the peak of human efficiency. Notably, his body eliminates the excessive build-up of fatigue-producing poisons in his muscles, granting him phenomenal endurance.

>Captain America has mastered the martial art of American-style boxing and judo, and has combined these disciplines with his own unique hand-to-hand style of combat. He engages in a daily regimen of rigorous exercise (including aerobics, weight lifting, gymnastics, and simulated combat) to keep himself in peek condition. Captain America is one of the finest human combatants Earth has ever known.


Cap is kind of like Supes, he's as strong as the writers/directors want them to be.

If you want to complain about power creep Batman is the perfect example.

>>82010387
Yeah your'e probably right, you probably understand those lofty, cerebral Transformers films too.

not saying Nolan is god at all, but its pretty undeniable his films (even the 3rd) are superior to anything Snyder has done.

I think people make the mistake of not differentiating between peak human as in the best a human can achieve vs. peak human as in the best the human body can do even if it is not achievable by standard means

the latter is a lot more powerful

>>82010576
You probably haven't even figured out why Bruce chose to make a spear instead of a bullet. There's a reason, and every clue to it is right there on the screen to see.

If you knew anything at all about the character, you'd probably have figured it out, but yeah, by all means keep thinking these guys don't know these characters way better than your smug ass.

>>82009420
It was actually a pretty good idea. Fuck sequels. I care about the movie I'm watching being good, and older Batman meeting younger Superman could've been great. If it was done by pretty much anybody but Snyder though. This guy made nothing but flops, except for 300 and Dawn Of The Dead. How the fuck did he get this gig?

Seems like there should be more Wonder Woman promo stuff out.


Does WB just suck at publicity?

>>82010842
Apple has proven the importance of advertising. The Disney Jews are very good at it.

>>82010732
explain the spear plz

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>>82010832
>It was actually a pretty good idea. Fuck sequels.
Not from a business perspective.
> If it was done by pretty much anybody but Snyder though
Agreed, I would love for a stand alone movie where anything can happen, kind of like Logan.
>How the fuck did he get this gig?
Holiwood is filled with idiots. That's why over at sony they want to start their own "Venom-Verse"

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>>82010900
>Batman sees his parents die with a gun
>Swears off using guns, because it's a cowards weapon
>Creates Spear instead of bullet

It's still incredibly dumb because Batman freely uses guns anyway in the Snyder-Verse so none of what I just said makes any sense. Inconsistent and stupid just like everything that comes out of snyders mouth.

>>82010900
this nerdist fag thinks the spear is Robins old spear and batman makes the kryptonite spear from it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPlwtgjnN74

1.44

Wow. Kino indeed.

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>>82011057
Yeah, no, although I'm pretty sure he did convert that pike into his spear.

>>82010900
Bruce let the beast off the chain, and he's been struggling to rein it back in ever since. Remember that time in the comics where he was absolutely going to beat the Joker to death but Gordon stopped him? Imagine how that might have played out if Gordon hadn't been there. Something along those lines has clearly happened in Bruce's past.

And it happened when he received his scar.

>>82011057
>>82011137
can't decide which is more retarded

I fucking hate being a DCfag, but the marvelcucks are worse kek

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>>82011205
>I fucking hate being a DCfag
Then we are truly on the same team here, but I am at least smart enough to realize that DCEU is garbage.

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>>82007558
leave marlel

>>82010732
Dude you are clearly a fanboy and its sad you cant decipher between fan service and the one or two metaphors SNyder likes to over- use and relies upon over and over again in his schtick movies

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>>82011200
Bruce repeatedly puts himself in harm's way over the course of the movie, using it as a justification for allowing himself to kill in self-defense. It's something he's said multiple times in the comics over the years - if he ever let himself go that far, he might not be able to stop. Turns out he was at least partly right. But even in full-on vigilante mode, Bruce still can't bring himself to put a bullet directly in someone. He aims at equipment. He aims at vehicles, and as pic related shows, even then, he doesn't aim for the passenger compartment.

He always needs a buffer - something to depersonalize the kill, whether it's fire, a wreck, a crate, an explosion, you name it,

This is him compromising with the part of himself that wants to keep killing.

>exactly the same footage

why did i just waste my time

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>>81995581
I don't know how people can watch this shit and expect the movie to be good.

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>>82011381
In situations where he's face-to-face with someone he deems worthy of death, he just can't bring himself to do it. This is his limit - he can't kill an opponent who's at his mercy. He can't kill in cold blood. Hence the brand.

The brand allows him to mark the people he sees as the absolute worst, the ones beyond redemption, and let some other "more respectable" criminal do his dirty work for him. It's really just a different sort of buffer for him. It's a compromise that still gets the "bat" its blood by proxy.

Take note of where he likes to brand them.

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>>82011570
In his nightmare, Bruce's highly symbolic dream reveals what's going on with him internally.

Unconsciously, he knows that his vendetta against Superman is just him rationalizing one more kill for the "bat." In the dream, we see him glance briefly at a depiction of the Archangel Michael in his iconic pose, but there's one key difference - Michael is typically depicted with reddish to strawberry blonde hair. The angel in Bruce's dream has hair that is coal-black.

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>>82011705
pic related.

>>82011570
are you forgetting the time where he shoots a guys flamethrower next to Supermans elderly mother and the guy burns to death

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>>82011737
Bruce turns away from the angel to be attacked by the Man-Bat that erupts out of his mother's tomb.

This is his unconscious mind warning him that by turning a blind eye on what Superman is, by lying to himself, he's allowing his own obsession with vengeance to consume him. When the Man-Bat attacks him, it lunges for his left clavicle, the same area where he's scarred, and the same area where he chooses to brand his "irredeemables."

This reveals that Bruce associates his scar with his own fall from grace, and that he's projecting his feelings about himself onto the criminals he brands. Bruce sees himself as also being past the point of redemption.

>>82011820
Are you forgetting the part where I said:

>He aims at equipment. He aims at vehicles, and as pic related shows, even then, he doesn't aim for the passenger compartment.
>He always needs a buffer - something to depersonalize the kill, whether it's fire, a wreck, a crate, an explosion, you name it,

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>>82011898
OMG this movie is so deep.

>>82011898
In light of all this, his reasoning behind machining the kryptonite into a spear becomes obvious - it's self-sabotage.

Unconsciously, Bruce already knows he can't kill this way, By forcing himself to even attempt it, he's forcing himself to confront his own demon head-on, and predictably, he balks.

>>82011981
You're cute when you're butthurt.

>Be a criminal in Gotham City
>Get arrested by the bog standard police
>This gives me superiority over that guy who was caught by the man who dresses up like a bat and has shit loads of gadgets and can seemingly disappear and reappear at will
>kill the inferior scum bag

w h o a h, this just goes to show how dangerous the world batman and superman occupy truly is

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>>82012055
This movie was written by goyer...

But nice fan fic.

>>82011381
they should just reused DKR, have him be retired after killing someone (something Robin-related) and his paranoia about Superman makes him return as Batman with no breaks until Superman changes him.

>>82012138
Yeah, all just pure coincidence. Keep telling yourself that, retard.

>>82012188
They did reuse DKR, They just reversed the roles. But I bet you didn't bat an eye when Superman maimed and killed, did you?

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>>82012234
>Yeah, all just pure coincidence. Keep telling yourself that, retard.
Even if it's true, it's an easteregg, that's all.

It's like im12andthisisdeep garbage. Entry level garbage.

>>82012234
>But I bet you didn't bat an eye when Superman maimed and killed, did you
in what scene? The african guy wasnt shown as killed, Superman probably just punched the wall before going through it

also everyone balked at superman killing zod

>They did reuse DKR
barely, only in surface (clothes, fight etc) similar to Watchmen copying without understanding what was underneath

DC wins again

Yeah but seriously can somebody please explain to me
>>82012119
I was playing threes! when the film was on so I may have missed the actual explanation

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>>82012333
DC Comics>>>>Marvel Comics
DCEU<<<<<MCU

>>82012296
An Easter Egg is a shield on a workbench in the background, not something that's front and center the entirety of the film. Sorry you missed it, Sorrier still that you're too butthurt to admit that it's perfectly in keeping with Bruce's psychology from the comics, but hey, I'm not the one who was acting like a smug asshole in the first place, so my pity can only go so far.

>>82012306
>in what scene? The african guy wasnt shown as killed, Superman probably just punched the wall before going through it

I'm talking about in DKR. Superman maims, Superman kills, and it so barely registers on people that it's almost criminal, and they more than "barely" reused DKR, They just reversed the roles and updated the message to something more contemporary.

Anyone who balked at Zod's death has no business calling themselves a comics fan.

>>82012390
not him, but that's not how you tell a story, specially the arc of the main character

>>81995683
it's darkhearted quips instead of lighthearted

>>82012349
It's all in who it is that Bruce chooses to brand - human traffickers and sex offenders - the guys that don't fare well in prison under the best of circumstances.

>>82012461
I was saying to just use the "retired" trope since he was already older and it made more sense with his new stance on killing. Dont care about DKR

(also how did they switch the roles? in DKR is some borderline Ayn Rand thing about heroic individual vs big government and old timey americanism that had become fossilized. In BvS it's nothing like that)

>>81995581

Cool video game.

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>>82012390
You are trying to equate what happened in the comics to what happened in the movies.

How do we know that all that happened in the comics happened in the movies. We simply don't. We don't know what happens in Batman's past we can only hint at it. Which is what Snyder did, but hinting isn't the same as conclusive evidence.

If Batman was younger, and we watched him grow up and had these interesting experiences then it would make a whole lot more sense. Besides, again it's Goyer writing the plot, it's piss thin.

The Martha meme proves the point that they had no fucking idea what they were doing. "oh your moms name is Martha too? That must mean you are just like me!" It's fucking stupid.

>>82012507
If it's literally a big badge that says "I raped kids"
then that makes a lot of sense

thanks anon, I can sleep easier tonight with one less worry

>>81995941
its to save cost from not having to hire a lightning tech

>>82012465
In what universe? The one where characters always say what they're feeling or, even worse, when another character tells them what they're feeling?

Christ, watch something besides cape movies and come back and talk to me then.

>>82012531
He had been retired. He came back after Superman showed up, or at least that's the impression it left me with.

>>82012632
if you're gonna make a big deal about a goddamn scar that you can only see if you pause the movie and make it brighter it's not good storytelling

make a 1 second thing where he looks at it in the mirror and actually connect it to his arc, not leave it to fanfic-writing fans

DCucks are pathetic. Literally every single post they make involves Marvel somehow... meanwhile, superior Marvelites don't even acknowledge DCucks 90% of the time. Sad!

>>82012531
>(also how did they switch the roles? in DKR is some borderline Ayn Rand thing about heroic individual vs big government and old timey americanism that had become fossilized. In BvS it's nothing like that)

This time around, it's the Batman that's compromised his principles and Superman that's sticking to them. In DKR, Superman represented the government. In BvS, the Batman does.

He even quotes Dick Cheney's 1% doctrine.

Other parallels:

In DKR, it's Clark who's compromised his principles while Bruce, still sticking to his, is coming closer and closer to the line. In BvS, it's the other way around.

In DKR, it's Clark who maims(Green Arrow) and goes to "war." In BvS, it's Bruce.

In DKR, Bruce's sacrifice prompts a change of heart for Superman. In BvS, it's Superman's that does the same for Bruce.

In DKR, it's Bruce who lies "dead" in the grave. In BvS, it's Clark.

>>82012840
>He even quotes Dick Cheney's 1% doctrine.
>In DKR, Bruce's sacrifice prompts a change of heart for Superman. In BvS, it's Superman's that does the same for Bruce.
yeah true

>In DKR, it's Bruce who lies "dead" in the grave. In BvS, it's Clark.
damn

>>82012548
>How do we know that all that happened in the comics happened in the movies. We simply don't.

I didn't say it did. I said something *like* that happened. How do I know? Psychology for one. I can tell you with almost absolute certainty that Bruce received his scar during the first act of killing. All that we don't yet know is whether the person he killed was the Joker or his own corrupted partner.

Again, based solely off what's right there in this "dumb" movie you like to shit on so much.

>>82012673
yeah the trailer gave me that impression, the movie itself didnt since Bruce's first scene after the intro is already as Batman and Perry doesnt care about the story

it'd be a lot better if they had made a little arc juxtaposing Bruce's fear of crime plus actual alien xenophobia that could be totally a legit fear

>what are your superpowers again?
>im rich
>xd
why not super rich? isnt that a "better" quip

>>82012673
Yeah, it wasn't totally clear how long he'd been back in action, but there was also an 18-month skip between the Battle of Metropolis and the cops seeing him working the docks.

>>82011001
>Not from a business perspective
I understand that, but I'm fucking tired of movies being just a very long trailer for a sequel. CW was the worst offender of this.

>>82012717
That scar is visible when he's in the shower, and you get a nice long look at it later on when he's working out. Incidentally, its full reveal coincides with the reveal that Lex had been sitting on the infodump from the ship's AI for most of the movie.

It wasn't exactly hidden. I saw it in the theaters on my very first viewing and I'm sure I'm far from alone. I'd suggest maybe texting less.

>>82012779
Go be a defensive, insecure little fuck in your own thread.

>>82013122
>I saw it in the theaters on my very first viewing
you say this as though you only made the connection later

>its full reveal coincides with the reveal that Lex had been sitting on the infodump from the ship's AI for most of the movie.
how do these connect?

>>82012673
Well its a wrong one retard. It was never once stated he was retired. Just world weary of doing it for so long

>>82013030
He never left action. Zack never stated he took a break. Zack and Bruce confirmed they were doing it for 20 yrs

>>82013221
>you say this as though you only made the connection later

That's right. Because details stick with me. I turn them over in my head and re-examine them from different angles. Bad stories leave you with nothing more to think about. Sometimes good stories do. I'm not suggesting that's the only way to tell a tale, but it sure as hell isn't boring.

>>82013347
Sorry but all this scar shit is headcanon in its purest form. He could have easily got it in some random encounter with a villain and his goons during some random adventure with Dick. Just like his gun shot wounds and other shit. Making it some changing/defining moment is all fan fic

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>>81995581
Embarrassing.

>>82013347
ok so you just admited you never made that connection during the movie, if it's indeed the author's intent it was badly done. It's supposedly a very big thing in a character's redemption arc, it's almost like Derek's swastika in American History X from your reading - it should have been given proper articulation

i like the theory, i enjoyed the movie in the cinema but cmon man.

>>82006475
Why was he up there? It provided no cover at all. As usual with Zack it exists for the imagery and only the imagery.

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Gotcha, My mistake.

>>82013410
When it turns out I'm right, will you admit it or will that just be more coincidence?

>>82009281

Just like their comics. Well DC had Vertigo at least. Marvel comics have always been trash

>>82013164
Hey Reddit!!!

>Make a film that haphazardly throws together the barebones to start a cinematic universe because every fucking film has to have one now
>Randomly throw in a post-apocalyptic dream sequence to introduce flash
>fuck it Jeremy Irons is a good actor, it's been a good hour since he's had a scene let him have another one!
>seems unfair not to let Morpheus have another scene now though
>Ok no we need a scene in Africa
>right let's chuck in an hour of hour of cgi people in capes hitting each other, and then fuck it a cgi monster the kids love this shit
>right lets have 30 minutes of endings now, bury superman great hook, right remind everyone there's other heroes and shit wonderful, right shit we still have to deal with Mark Zuckerberg - pop in a cheeky batman scene, and finally superman ain't really dead.
>call it a day
>hailed as the saviour of cinema - a true visionary

inb4 marvel cuck, all capeshit is fucking awful, all these films need nuking from orbit

>>82009420

>Who the fuck let this idiot use a older batman. Who decided that was a good idea.

That is a good idea. It takes an experienced Batman to keep up with the league

>>82010094

They stopped pretending in Avengers when Cap got shiot in the gut by an Alien lazer and just shrugged it off.

If they couldn't do any lasting damage to cap how were they going to hurt Iron Man, Thor or Hulk? Has there ever been a shittier invasion force that wasn't played for laughs?

>>82013464

No, I made the connection that he was branding people and what it meant. I just didn't tie it to the dream and the spear until later. That's pretty much the opposite of bad storytelling, like not making the connection that the Seer in Steinbeck's "Cannery Row" was the batter that Doc beaned and ended his pitching career until you've had some time to reflect on it.

>>82013922
maybe it's just bad symbolism. Like moby dick being mixed up with King Arthur without any real articulation

I am exactly 45 minutes and 15 seconds into BvS and it's honestly pretty okay so far, I don't get the hate. I didn't expect the movie to have such little action this far in, it's a pretty refreshing change of pace
Was Lex putting a cherry candy in the Senator's mouth really necessary though

>>82014199
it's a metaphor for a zuckeberg like figure pushing shit down people's throats

>>82013565
He wasn't going for cover - he was going for that trick you can pull where you don't see something because your brain wasn't expecting to see it. The cop was just more observant than he bargained for.

>>82014262
You go through more mental gymnastics than a Christian

>>82014262
lol what the hell, "nobody expects me with my dick out so their brain will filter me out"

it was cool and spooky in the cinema thats it

>>82014075
If it's "bad symbolism," it's a blue-eyed miracle that it just so happens to be in perfect keeping not only with everything we see happening in the movie, but also what we know about Bruce's personality from the comics.

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>>82014327

Watch this and be honest. I know that's asking a lot.

https://youtu.be/vJG698U2Mvo

>>82014399
already knew that one so it doesnt work

but being on the look out for white shirts passing and ignoring the color black isnt the same as a cop not expecting to see batman in the corner

it was spooky at first, its fine

>>82014461
So you walk into every room expecting Batmen to be bracing themselves up in the corners ninja-style? On second thought, that's probably something they drill into you at the Gotham Police Academy.

>>82014522
it was ok, cops sweep the corners, it was dark. Fine, he missed bats

>>82006475
Why not have him perched on a gargoyle like any other batman worth his salt

>>82014665
You know how much trouble he'd have to go through dragging 500 lb statues into that room? I rolled the dice. no biggy.

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>>82003501
HOLY SHIT I am so spooked guys!

>those eyes
WHY DOESN'T SNYDER DIRECT A BATMAN HORROR MOVIE ALREADY!

The Batman nightmare scenes were great and Snyder has talent with horror (his Dawn of the Dead).

Snyder has talent. But the problem is that his movies are over bloated with so many other bits so his true talent is scarce in the whole picture.

>>82009420
>the fact that this is Snyder's last movie.

wrong friendo, he's confirmed to do the Justice League sequel.

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I'm in the in the mind that this wasn't a reach at all, due to there being plenty of evidence to support your claims. It was a good read, thanks man.