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Thoughts on this movie?

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Thoughts on this movie?
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>>81987495
I liked the snake duel. That's the only part of this I can remember so I'm not sure if I've even seen the whole thing.
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Christkino
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>>81987495
A cinematographic masterpiece;

One of the best movies involving Christian mythology and it has perhaps the best scene ever made involving the physical representation of God; Powerful yet abstract.

>Remove the sandals from your feet, for the place on which you stand is holy ground

This movie really touched an almost ethereal nerve somehow, the story felt very real on a personal level yet it felt like it was all a dream at the same time.

The voice acting was GOAT as well.

Imo there's something about animation can seem almost more real than live action movies, perhaps because it's not bound by physical restraints and can speak directly to your imagination/sub conscious.

/tips
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It's kino, but most Christians I know are assholes
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Exploring the strained relationship between Ramses and Moses was an interesting take on things that gave it personal gravitas and every single song in it was brilliant. If you're not raising your kids to at least appreciate the Judea Christian mythos and you're not showing them film then you're failing as a parent.
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>>81987495
"found babbies" were a popular explaination for princesses who fucked their slaves and had a half slave babby
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>>81987495
I miss this style of animation.

We should get more stories from religions too. I'm worried that many people are so close minded they will bash Pringe of Egypt for being about a story in the Bible. Open your minds, folks. No one complained about Road to El Dorado being about Mayan religion.
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This movie kicks all sorts of ass. Dreamworks best imo.
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>>81990299
Such a masterpiece. Will 2d animation ever come back so strong?
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Best song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bcg5rN-jlaw
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>do as the Jews say or we kill your children
I can't believe /tv/ actually likes this movie
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i liked it as a kid and the animation still holds up but when i rewatched it some time ago i felt like it really pushed the religious aspects on the audience beyond just telling a story.
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>>81989424
I miss this animation style, too.

I'm fucking sick of the annoyingly bright and high contrast CGI Pixar and Dreamworks shit with the generic plots and characters with the same fucking smirk on their faces.
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>>81989424
The Mayan religion isn't forced down our throats or even remotely relevant , nice false equivalency
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This is a film. Capeshit are movies.
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>>81988017
There are literally zero Christians in that movie.
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>>81991012
>The Mayan religion isn't forced down our throats or even remotely relevant
Okay, I give you that. All religion is full of wisdom though. We should not reject the story of Moses even if some people force that story down our throats. If people think for themselves they can decide if they think the story is real. Either way it holds value and should not be rejected without a thought. At least I think so. I'd actually like a 2d Dreamworks animation about Hinduism. Many great stories there...
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>>81991219
Only now I realized that has to be a fish because of the tail
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>>81987495
is this good for 6- children?
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>>81991219
this shit was really scary to me as a kid.
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>>81992446
YES
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>>81987495
pretty good animated movie. the scene where God sends the angel of death to murder a bunch of children was pure kino.
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>>81987495
Fantastic
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>>81991012
Neither does the Prince of Egypt shove its religion down your throat, it's just a straight adaptation of a story in the Bible
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>>81988879
In the Bible everyone knew Moses was a Hebrew, and he just lived in the palace so he was never a prince
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>>81991489
Most likely a whale shark
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>>81990822
>muh jews jews jews
>it says the word jew? ew!
>dude this movie has JEWS in it
>wtf jews
>why would you watch jews
>ffs its a jew movie
>omg jews anon
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>>81987958
Pic related is also pretty decent
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>>81993874
whoopsie
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Cinematic masterpiece and a good take on a biblical myth. As an atheist I really appreciate this film, and I will definitely show it to my kids.

My only concern is that it humanizes the Jews too much.
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>goal is to get jews out of egypt
>purposefully harden pharaoh's heart so he won't let you, thus sabotaging your own goal
>mass murder egyptian babies to punish pharaoh for what you yourself made him do, and to further motivate him to finally do what you're actively preventing him from doing
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WHO MADE MAN'S MOUTH? Who made the deaf, the mute, the SEEING OR THE BLIND? DID NOT I!?


NOW GO!
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>>81993982
>My only concern is that it humanizes the Jews too much
Fucking idiot
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>>81994012
Please take up your issues with the Bible, anon.
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>>81993982
>My only concern is that it humanizes the Jews too much.
it makes them just as horrible as the Egyptians.

"yaay baby genocide is our ticket to freedom."
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>>81993847
This, given all the fish around it.
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>>81994012
Except God doesn't harden Pharaoh's heart in the movie, so you're only issue is with the source material.
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>>81994012
The "harden pharao's heart" segment really ruins the entire dramaturgy of the story.
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>>81994079

But Moses was the only Jew doing the bad stuff, and God was the asshole. Couldn't really blame the other Jews for that.
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>>81994171
the story of moses is pure jewish propaganda written by jews in exile in babylon with very little basis in history, of course it shines a positive light on the jews.
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>>81994079
It wasnt the Jews who killed the baby it was their God. Even Moses thought it is going too far and tried to reason Ramses to just let them go because it's going to get worse and worse.
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>>81994251
>>81994171
Could you shitheads just talk about this film instead of your boring generic pol crap
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was Yahweh autistic?
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>>81994262
>Moses himself realizes he has become a slave to this psychotic god but is too afraid to stand up to it
fucking kek.
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>>81994251
Or it's a religious myth like literally every other religious myth?

Are you gonna start calling the Odyssey Greek propaganda?
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>>81994288
It's not possible. They spend far too much time and energy bemoaning the Jews in entirely unrelated threads to ever allow for conversation about something actually Jew-related to go without it.
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>>81994298
nah, he's just a sociopathic mass murderer. remember when he killed almost everyone with the great flood? he also killed a million innocent babies in that event.
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regardless of what you think of the religious shit the story, visuals and soundtrack are epic, I don't use that meme word lightly
even the CGI was appropriately
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>>81994319
>what now we're killing all the egyptian younglings too?
>wait who am I not killing besides Aaron?
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>>81994367
>Be omnipotent
>Create life
>People somehow think that means you don't have free reign to do with it as you please

Fuck off, heathen. Are you a genocidal murderer when you kill of Sims?
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>>81994385
oh for sure. it's definitely one of the best animated feature films Hollywood ever made.
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>>81994288
i love the movie, i saw it as a kid first with a bunch of jewish friends, and i don't think there's anything wrong with any group of people making themselves the heroes in their national epics. but you cannot talk about a movie about the most essential jewish story without talking about jewish history. i only go on pol if there's a current international habening, like the turkish attempted coup

>>81994337
yes, odyssey is very much greek propaganda, of course it is. most epics are. nothing wrong with this. although in the case of odyssey, it's more about homer's personal view on gods and ethics and politics that's being didactically shared as there was no unified national greek idea, unlike the exodus which primarily has the aim of preserving a distinct ethnic group's identity during their time in exile in a foreign land.
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OP DELIVER US
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As a Muslim would I enjoy this?
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>>81994479
>ut you cannot talk about a movie about the most essential jewish story without talking about jewish history
Actually, yes, you can.
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>>81994367
>Y DO PPL HAVE TO DIE?!?!?
>IF GOD IZ GOOD, Y WOULD GOD MAKE ME SADZ?!?!
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>>81994453
i used to feel bad when i plotted to kill my retarded grandson whom i secretly fathered with my own niece who was married to my naive son, and then my son figured it out, and so i had to duel him and kill him and got bored with the plot and just imprisoned and executed the child, but, infanticide, like anything else, loses it's shocking effects once you get used to it.
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>>81994500
Does the story of the Exodus "trigger" you?
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>>81994521
good thing he actually doesn't give a fuck in real life. otherwise we'd all be dead... sooner.
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>>81994479
>it's more about homer's personal view on gods and ethics and politics
Homer very likely didn't exist, and the recorded version of the text is definitely not in the ballpark of what the original spoken-word poem would have been.

But being pedantic aside, I'd find it hard to think of any piece of fiction that isn't propaganda by that extremely broad definition. All stories have a point, and it seems like you're saying as long as that's the case, it's propaganda.

Which, of course, is fine. But your original post made it sound like Exodus is bad because it's propaganda, which would only be true if you believed ALL stories are bad.
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>>81994500
well it establishes the precedent that it's ok for god's chosen to mass murder disbelievers, so should be right up your alley t b h wallah desu
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>>81994500
You should be able to enjoy this very good movie no matter what religion you are or are not.
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>>81994500
does the image of a half naked woman set your jihads into a suicide bombing frenzy, anon?
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>>81994595
triggered
>>81994608
triggered
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>Egyptian firstborn that die get to chill out in paradise for eternity with God
>atheists sperge out over it and call God a murderer.
>if atheists actually understood what was happening in the Bible they'd be mad about the fact the Egyptian firstborn get a free pass to paradise while the rest of us have to tough it out

I thought you guys were supposed to be enlightened? You literally can't understand a story that is used to teach Christian children.
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>>81994453
no, I do not kill my sims. it's the only way I can live a life with my waifu.
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>>81994631
This post proves God isn't autistic.
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>>81994500
yes, it's a great movie with good songs, goat cinematography and very well made animations. plus, the story is iconic and exodus is canon in islam so nothing to trigger you religiously.

>>81994511
sure, but you'd be avoiding the plot, or have a very shallow discussion about it. you'd also not be able to discuss the imagery and the tone properly.

>>81994584
>the story of moses is pure jewish propaganda written by jews in exile in babylon with very little basis in history, of course it shines a positive light on the jews.
i genuinely don't think this implies it being bad, but i see your point. that said, exodus is more propaganda than most stories for the reason i mentioned. having to deal with pol people makes you very sensitive to statements like that i guess, and that's fair enough.
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>>81990861

Well it's the story of Exodus, a religious chapter in a religious holy book, what the fuck did you expect.
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>>81994628
>you will never get to fulfill your potential and because you're up in heaven getting molested by an omnipotent old man
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>>81994628
do they though? don't they go to purgatory? they weren't baptized or circumcised or whatever, so i doubt they can get to heaven. did god make an exception?

it's also psychological torture for all egyptians, some of whom might not have been bad.
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>>81990861
It really doesn't.
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>>81994631
>I do not kill my sims

>Not creating a serial killer sim
>Not building a shed in your backyard
>Not placing only a fire place and carpet in there
>Not luring other sims in there and then deleting the door
>Not enjoying the stupid yelps sims make when they're on fire
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>>81994625
then I suggest you watch it. just make sure you tell us first when you're about to run over people with a bus full of terrified children, who you'll blow up in the name of Allah.
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>Ramses screaming for Moses to let him travel with him at the end

I don't think any animated movie has hit me harder.
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>>81994712
>fulfill your potential
What kind of "potential" do you think people had in ancient Egypt? Potential to serve the Pharaoh? Potential to fuck on some Egyptian sluts in the pre-penicillin age? What kind of potential do you think you have now?
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>>81994777
i preferred pool parties with deleted ladders, they just drown to death after swimming around frantically.
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>>81987729
But it's old testament.
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>>81994785
I noticed Ramses yells out Moses' name and Moses saying "goodbye brother" the first time Moses ran away after he killed a guard.

It was a nice call back.
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Prince of egypt is pure kino.
Dreamworks churns out shitty cgi flicks now, but their 2d animations are great.
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>>81994787
I don't know, but at least it's better to live and do something instead of dying without doing anything.
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>>81991361
What wisdom is there in the story of Moses? That if you're a Jew you're special and people deserve to die because someone else is giving you a hard time?
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>>81993825
If you can find an animated film with more impressively grand backgrounds I'd like to see it.

I really would, it must be excellent if it exists
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>>81994855
Meh I wanted to kill in a way as to not see it, but hear it.
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>>81994915
"Don't enslave people or bad shit will happen to you down the road"
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>>81994915
The message was that slave labor is only cost-effective in the short term. In the long term, more trouble than it's worth.
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>>81994754
>do they though?

Yes, God claims special ownership of all firstborn lives. As far as God is concerned, when the Egyptian firstborn died he was simply taking back what belonged to Him anyway.

>don't they go to purgatory?

No. Purgatory is Christian fanfiction.
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>>81994888
sinbad almost killed them so they ditched 2d animation entirely
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>>81994958
But the Hebrews went on to have slaves right after that, what the hell they didn't even learn the lesson themselves.
>>81994999
True.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecMfU3910WY
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I've forgotten, but I watched the Charleton Heston version a couple of weeks ago. did Prince of Egypt have the annoying dude who always kept instigating the Jews into a mob or making them build the golden idol?
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>>81995043
>But the Hebrews went on to have slaves right after that, what the hell they didn't even learn the lesson themselves.
And guess what, the Hebrews have a shitty time after escaping from Egypt
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>>81994958
>>81994999
nah, israelites had their own slaves, it was a case of "yahweh is the goatest god and jews are his chosen people, don't mess with them". the prince of egypt being a contemporary adaptation changed the message into what you said though.

>>81995015
huh, good for the children i guess. thanks anon.
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>>81995030
Shame that. Eris was waifu tier.
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>>81995052
No. There's no depiction of the golden idol in this, it ends with them escaping Egypt and Moses receiving the commandments
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>>81994958
*but it's totally cool to invade canaan and murder the people already living there, god wills it n sheet

basic moral: treating human beings like cattle to be subdued or murdered is bad if the goyim do it, but it's cool if the hebrews do it, because they have special license
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>>81995052
No, they don't get that far.
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>>81995068
That would be the liberties taken. It doesn't have to be exactly accurate if you can take a message from an isolated story.

They set out primarily to make a good film, not to be 100% accurate.
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>>81995094
>>81995104
oh okay. no wonder I can't recall that particular scene. thanks.
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The scene from Exodus: Gods and Kings was better because it was at least "realistic".

I mean really, if the splitting of the Red Sea was actually true, then it was without a doubt just a change of tide.
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>>81995149
Zzzzzzzzzz

I'll keep my magic version
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>>81995129
sure, but the question was "what's the wisdom in the story of moses" not "what's the wisdom in the movie prince of egypt", which is why i made the distinction. the movie itself is great.
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>>81995052
Are those old Charlton Heston films good, or are they cheap-looking? I'm in the mood for some Biblekino
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>>81995149
>then it was without a doubt just a change of tide.
Why? What's your explanation for the fucking pillar of fire then? Why would God choose something like that when he's specifically trying to demonstrate his power?
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>>81995218
by today's standards, cheap looking, but still great movies, and the lack of digital coloring actually makes them look better at times i think.
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>>81995228
I don't know, why are you asking me? I don't even believe anything from the Holy Books.
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>>81995149
>realistic
the whole thing is pure fiction
it's a good story though
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>>81995098
>atheists always immediately jump to defend the Canaanites

Yeah an entire nation of people who's culture was full of incest, bestiality, kiddy fiddling and child sacrifice.

>Be a Canaanite
>want to rape the new guys in town
>suddenly get struck blind
>be so committed to raping the new guys in town that you physically exhaust yourself trying to find a way into their house while blinded

Those poor Canaanites were good boys, they dindu nuffin. How's that moral high horse working out for you, atheists?
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>>81995149
>realism
>in a fairy tale

When we do an adaptation of the Odyssey starring Chris Pratt as Odysseus, we must make sure we have no monsters, no magic and make sure the audience knows all these old beliefs about gods are totally false and they're all just schizophrenic if they think they're talking to gods. Also we need to have a big army battle scene like in LOTR and Odysseus has to give a rousing speech.

Also we'd like to not have so much of this "sailing" and "travelling around" stuff. Can we just set it in the Greek mainland, filmed in Atlanta? Please find a role for Rihanna also.
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>>81995339
>these people have values different from ours
>let's kill them all and take their stuff DEUS VULT
Eh.
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>>81995218
they're cheap looking, it's made in 1956 afterall. but still pretty good. it's also Demille's second to last movie as a director.
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>>81995184
Serious Bible discussion? I guess the main message I got was similar to the Jesus story - that one person can completely change the laws/values of a much larger society just by telling people what they think and staying firm in the face of persecution. God will take your side and shit will work out, in whatever metaphorical or literal sense you prefer
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>>81995339
>an entire nation of people who's culture was full of incest, bestiality, kiddy fiddling and child sacrifice

says the propaganda of the people who need an excuse to kill them all and steal their land, how convenient
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>>81994628
>Egyptian firstborn that die get to chill out in paradise for eternity with God
Nice religious head canon there anon.
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>>81994754

IIRC, God makes exceptions for people who can't be expected to have understood and been able to accept his message. Like newborns, the mentally disabled and people who have simply never heard of him.
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>>81987495
Loved it as a little kid. My grandma loved sneaking good ol' bible stories in on my tv time.
The scene where all the first borns die got me.
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>>81995582
man god is unfair, i wish i died as an infant.
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>>81995582
This.
I've never belived the "babies go to purgatory " thing. I mean wouldn't that suck? Your baby died, then you die and go to heaven thinking that baby you lost will be there and st.Peters like "nah babe, he's floating around in a void right now"
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>>81995582
>>81994754
Heaven and Hell are pagan concepts, in the bible there is mention of necromancy though.
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>>81995582
what about people with self-diagnoses autism?
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>>81991012
>>81994915
>>81995509
Atheists like you make atheists like me look bad
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>>81995744

Purgatory is much worse than that. As far as Catholic doctrine is concerned, purgatory is where you go if you've got residual sins that are bad but not so bad that you'll be condemned. In purgatory you're "purified" by having those sins burned away, and since Catholic doctrine states that the act of being born is itself a sin, purgatory would be a place full of babies being burned for the crime of being born. But don't worry, give your shekels to the pope and it will buy your baby a fast-track out of purgatory.

It's stuff like this that reveals just how steeped in paganism the Catholic church is, and how it's teachings have very little to do with the Bible at times.
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>>81996051
>being born is itself a sin
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>>81995149
nah mate
walking between the water walls was goat

exodus doesn't even have a staff duel
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>>81996625
yes, according to catholics, all men are born sinners. it's a great religion desu, don't see why it caused massive revolts and civil wars.
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>>81993982
>atheist
>hates jews
I thought you secular humanist pussies wanted kumbaya with everybody?
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>>81994319
What is an ant to a man, or a man to a god? If I somehow manage to communicate with ants and recreate the Exodus with an ant colony but my Moses ant refuses, I'm going to completely and utterly obliterate him in half a second and move on to another ant.
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story is fucking stupid. moses only won because his god actually exists. The egyptian gods should have been real as well

if you replace the jews and egyptians with something else you will immediately see how stupidly one-sided and annoyingly preachy the story is. Only people give this a double standard pass because they believe it

art was excellent though
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>>81990861
Not really
It doesn't really tell you to get right with God and portrays all sides sympathetically
God even comes across as a bit of a dick
>Did I not make the deaf and the blind for my purposes
>Yeah why did you do that?
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>>81998097
Trying too hard
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>>81996999
>being secular is being a pussy

I suppose worshiping a shitty God created by ancient kikes whose only corroboration is a book full of ridiculous conflicting stories and laws makes you more of a man? Get fucked faggot
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>>81998097
The Egyptians do have magic though which implies their gods exist
God is just much more powerful in the story. But even then that really isn't the point of the story, in the movie it's about brotherly conflict
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>>81998097
>source material is jewish religious text about how they're the chosen people
>expects fair treatment for egyptian oppressors
wew lad i hope this was a bait
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>>81998420
>being a secular
i will personally behead you once sharia is enforced inshallah, you filthy kafir
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>>81993798
Cant hide that jewnose.. even a halfjew nose sticks out too much to be denied
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>>81998097
>implying Kek didn't exist
>implying Kek doesn't exist now

He's actually mentioned in the film.
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>>81998097
Fun fact, the Old Testament doesn't explicitly state other gods do not exist, just that Yaweh is the greatest.

So if you want to go full Christian polytheist you technically could without being a heretic, but you couldn't really acknowledge other entities as gods of course.
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>>81994319
Well Moses does convince God not to kill all the Jews after they worship the golden calf, so he actually was somehow able to change God's mind. The "slave to God" mentality is much more in Islam, it's not really in Christianity or Judaism.
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It's better than the Heston one
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>>81987495
one of my favourite animated movies; even when i was an edgy atheist teen
t. not so edgy anymore atheist twentysomething
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>>81995149
>I mean really, if the splitting of the Red Sea was actually true, then it was without a doubt just a change of tide.

You do know that the entirety of Exodus is ahistorical right. The entire thing is a wish fulfillment narrative constructed during and after the Babylonian captivity (which did happen), in a "this shit has happened to us before and we got out okay then" way.
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>>81990778
ralph singing turns me on
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>>81990778
KINO
IKON
NOKI
ONIK
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>>81994298
The NEETs are goods chosen people we were the true Israelites let us all praise /ourguy/
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>>81995149
>The scene from Exodus: Gods and Kings was better because it was at least "realistic".
Pls go Ridley.
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>>81994500
do muslims not believe in the old testament? the fuck?
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>>82002645
Yes, they do.
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>>81991012
>forced down our throats
Why do atheists use the same buzzwords when talking about religion?
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>>82002892
Christians use that phrase all the time. They use as many as anyone I've ever seen.
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>>82002662
then what's the point of asking?
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>>82003166
He posted that so he could bait generic "reee muslim" answers from boring pol posters.
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>>82003246
TYPICAL FUCKING MUSLEMS
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>>81987495
>this entire song
>literally just Moses running around the palace yelling "OY VEYY WE WUZ KANGS N SHEEIT"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVmtG9_55F0

my fucking sides
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>>81987495
>BY THE POWER OF KEK
>...
>Succ
>Nutt
>Brappp
>Lel
>Banepost
>Wojack
>Bigguy
>...
>...kek
>Wojack
>Pepe
>Lepenn
>Farage!
>TRUMP!
>...
>KEK!

>YOU'RE MEMING WITH THE GOOD GOYS NOW
>MEMEING WITH THE GOOD GOYS NOW


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxyOTFQFWQ0
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>>82004102
lame
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my first nut was to Tzipporah in this movie
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>>81989424
Fuck, I wish we got a whole series with Miguel and Tulio. At least a trilogy.
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>>81994915
>What wisdom is there in a story that scholars have debated about for the last 2,500 years?
I'm agnostic and even I have to admit that is the worst possible argument.
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>>81994924

Akira comes to mind, if that counts
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>>81994012
Apparently in the Hebrew when it talks about harding his heart what it's saying is that Pharaoh was really weaker willed so all God did was given him the balls to go through with hisdecisions
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>>82004280
p-/pol/ thought it was funny...
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>>81994012
>>81994151
>>82005898
>when you're a super advanced deity running a massive open-world emulator and you need an excuse to test a new water physics package so you have to convince your rival factions of sims characters to fight one another so you re-code their logic algorithms just so you can have one of the admins part the red sea
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>>82004605
Mine too, anon.
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It is shit and gay.
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Moses became paler after changing his look
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I'm an atheist and I think this is a masterpiece. Great story, beautiful visuals, great songs and focusing on the brother relationship sets it apart from other adaptations.
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>>82005962
That's not a good sign anon.
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>>81987958
>Christian mythology

Moses is revered by Judaism, Christianity and Islam

Apart from that, you post is on point

also, the musical score is epic
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