Was it rape?

She didn't say no.

Hannah was a stupid cunt. I'm glad she killed herself.

Bryce did nothing wrong.

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>>81957618
rape is a social construct

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>>81957753
kill yourself tripfaggot

>>81957707
>She didn't say no.
Neither did Jessica. That's not how consent works.

yep.

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>>81957811
You seem upset. Upset with /pol/. Please, feel free to elaborate. I'm listening.

>>81957707
she tried to leave the hot tub and he literally pulled her back in and held her in place

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>>81957833
People don't ask in real life, anon. The truth is actions speak louder than words, and the recent development of someone having to affirm with a verbal yes is kind of unrealistic.

can't wait for tyler to end these annoying spoiled kids, except tony

>>81957618
Yes, fuck Bryce.

and Hannah was a fucking idiot

>>81959703
>the recent development of someone having to affirm with a verbal yes is kind of unrealistic.

>"Are you okay with this?"
>"Yeah"

wow, so unrealistic. jesus christ what a disgusting sad little creep you are.

>>81957618
why was she at this party

>>81960121
because she is a normie whore going to where all the normie dicks are

>>81959703
>People don't ask in real life, anon
Normal people do. I can see why an autistic rapist would try to justify their actions by asserting that it is abnormal to do so, though.

Post the webm

>>81959703
>actions speak louder than words
What about the action where she struggled to escape and he forced her back and held her in place?

What in the fuck is wrong with you autists?

>>81960267
it's just part of the game you fucking sperg, girls love to do that

obvious you never had sex

>>81957811
Put game of thrones in that pic and you're spot on

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>>81960079
No need to get upset, friend. Can you honestly tell me that each and every time you're intimate, you ask for validation?

Also, [spoier]I've had someone force themself onto me in real life.[/spoiler] If I can hold a more moderate opinion, you shouldn't have an issue admitting not everything is black and white.

>>81960252
this

>>81960216

lol what? no, normal people do not ask DO YOU WANT TO HAVE SEX just before having sex

unless its your sister or cousin or something

>>81960267
We're not talking about the show specifically, anon.

>>81957707
I feel like saying no while getting raped is the same as when you got bullied in school and din't ask them to stop
> Well bro is your fault you should have told them to stop

>>81960079
No means no but yes also means no. Life is hard.

>>81960478
>normal people do not ask DO YOU WANT TO HAVE SEX just before having sex
Nobody claimed they did. If you're making out with a chick and things start to get heated, all you need to do is say "is this okay?" or "are you alright with this?"

The fact that you equate consent to some kind of formal request is autistic beyond all comprehension.

>>81959703

That's funny, I was hanging out with a girl I liked a few days ago, and when it was clear by the looks she was giving me I should probably make a move, I just straight up said "I'd really like to kiss you. Would that be okay?" She quickly agreed and then we made out like crazed weasels. It was great.

so yeah man, you actually CAN just be straight with people and let them know your intentions before you're about to do something very intimate and give 'em a chance to respond

>>81960478
Holy shit you really don't know anything do you? You think it's like the movies where it just cuts away to fucking?

>>81957618
>>81957707
It was rape, she didnt want to have sex
on the other hand Bryce didnt know that because she didnt physically or verbally reject him. She even said "Bryce please" which would only make things more confusing.
You could call it a misunderstanding
Bottom line is that this satisfies the definition of rape, even if Bryce's ignorance of the fact should exonerate him in a court.

>>81960550
>all you need to do is say "is this okay?" or "are you alright with this?"

Why do virgins feel the need to lecture others about sex?

>>81957707
What was weird about this show is she told Clay no but really wanted to fuck him. So Bryce was actually right when he was talking to Clay about women not knowing what they want.

>>81960451
One time I was fooling around with a girl and she started saying no so I stopped and she asked me why.

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Can someone post the webm of her getting raped so I don't have to download the episode?

>>81960586
You being a rapist doesn't make other people virgins, anon.

>>81960606
>someone i know was okay with it, so that means it's fair game to fuck any woman when they say no
Autism.

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>>81960550
Asking for it each and every time makes you sound insecure. What's truly autistic is not understanding the social implication of chanting that.

There's no reason to get angry over this. You have the opportunity to change our opinions, but screeching insults does nothing back make us want to ignore your points or match your response.

>about to lose virginity to best friend, who takes things slow and asks if you're okay

"FUCK OFF CLAY GET AWAY FROM ME!!!"

>be around known asshole and rapist who (surprise!) forces himself on you in the hot tub

"i think im gonna leave bryce...oh well if you insist..."

>>81960555
I'm not saying you can't. It's just not always appropriate for every situation.

Good job, by the way.

>>81960550

>If you're making out with a chick and things start to get heated, all you need to do is say "is this okay?" or "are you alright with this?"

uh no. you start to take her shirt off. the point at which she doesn't want you to continue further is if she says that's far enough, or places your hands someplace.

I learned this shit when I was 15, holy shit I weep for you children.

>>81960777
Not him, but I think the point is that the situations can be far more complex and the narrative that concent is only owned by the woman puts a lot of preassure and uncertainty on the man, and he could be wrongly accused.

what show is this?

>>81960555
>we made out like crazed weasels
Faggot.

>>81960663
Nice ad hominem you have there.

>>81961025
>uses ad hominem
>gets mad when someone ad hominems back
Autism.

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>>81960550
>If you're making out with a chick and things start to get heated, all you need to do is say "is this okay?" or "are you alright with this?"

She says yes, you do the deed then next day you call the cops and have her arrested for rape because she didn't ask you back.

>>81961095
I'm not that anon. Being called a virgin isn't on par with being called a rapist, anyway.

>>81957618
When she go to his house I though she was gonna ask for money (because her parents money who she lost) and let him fuck her or something

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>>81961099
Chess, not checkers.

>>81961272
this

>>81961272
Why would he try to justify rape if he wasn't a rapist? Literally all of the people in here defending non-consensual sex are doing so because they've done things like this in the past and refuse to believe that they could possibly be rapists themselves.

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>>81957811
lol at the accuracy of that pic

>>81957811
Saved

>>81961366
I don't want to speak for another person, but no where in his conversation chain does he talk about any of his personal experiences. No one here is saying that rape is okay. We're just discussing the nature of consent and what it entails. He's going about it in the wrong way, but I agree with the 'idea' behind his mud slinging.

what fucking show is this you fucking autist faggots

>>81961735
I just realized the title isn't anywhere in this thread. The show is called '13 Reasons Why' and can be found on Netflix. It's nothing special, though.

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>>81957833
>it's only le consent if it's le notarized in le triplicate!!1
fuck off cuck

my gf is into rapeplay, do you know how fucking difficult it is to fuck a girl who isn't facilitating the sex? nigh-fucking-impossible.

if the """""""rape""""""" victim wasn't either coerced (coercion is the use or threat of FORCE), bound or beaten into submission, she was an active percipient who consented through action. Fact.

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>>81960555
>only got verbal consent to kiss
>dicked her
fucking rapist

>>81962294
>my gf is into rapeplay
Sure she is, little guy.

>>81961735
>>81961872

people doing this drives me up the fucking wall, especially since /tv/ is shitposting 90% of the time and the rare threads when someone discusses movies or tv they dont mention the title

>>81960555
anon larping with your hand doesn't count.

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The only reason you chill with someone like that is to fuck. Stupid slut.

It seems like this new generation forgets about the whole "men and women can't just be friends" thing but I guess that's what happens when you throw gender out the window...

>>81960573
>It was rape, she didnt want to have sex

That's not how it works, dumbass, it doesn't matter she "didn't want to", she should've made very clear that she didn't want it verbally and physically, and go as far as scream, scratch and run away to preserve her purity. She, literally, just stood there like a JAV actress and took it like a champ from based Bryce.

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>>81961366
>they've done things like this in the past and refuse to believe that they could possibly be rapists themselves.
kek

where do you think you are?

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>>81960550
>all you need to do is say "is this okay?"

Is that the garbage they teach in public schools these days? No wonder millennials are so fucked in the head.

If she didn't say "no" or punch him or kick him, then it wasn't rape.

>>81962781
They teach this in colleges actually, and they have since at least 2009.

We have witnessed the fallout of one generation, lets see how the next one goes with this shit starting in early teenage years.

>>81962294
You are a retard.

>>81960079
>>81960216
t. virgins

>>81962781
I hope this pic is a joke.

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>>81960550
>all you need to do is say "is this okay?" or "are you alright with this?"

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>>81962922

It's serious. This picture is the real joke.

>>81962607
she did try to leave the hot tub.

When you have to physically hold down a girl to have sex with her...that's not really a 'go ahead' sign.

It could be a weird reaction from Hannah, but Bryce surely knew what he was doing.

Wanna call it rape? Call it rape, same difference

>>81962992

>she did try to leave the hot tub.
What is playing the hard to catch girl. EVERY other time someone made advancements she screamed and made a scene. The one time it mattered she didn't.

>It could be a weird reaction from Hannah
In the real world it's called non-verbal consent.


She went to his house willingly, took off her clothes willingly, and then got into the tub with TWO couples making out that got out of said hot tub to FUCK inside the house. She didn't do enough to protect herself, and should blame only herself, and maybe her "rapist", not the other 12 people that were "kind of mean" to her for not being able to "be there for her when she needed most", or whatever nonsense she believed in.

>>81960555
>I just straight up said "I'd really like to kiss you. Would that be okay?" She quickly agreed and then we made out like crazed weasels. It was great.

Fucking nu-male lying faggots lmao

>>81962992
>fails to get out of the hot tub once
>might as well give in
Where were these girls when I grew up

>>81962607
She did make it extremely clear. Did you even watch the show? How socially inept are you?

Does someone have a webm for that scene?

>>81963223

It happens by the end of episode 12.

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>>81960605

>>81962607
>>81962781
It was pretty God damn obvious that she didn't want it. You don't just get to decide on your own which girls are "playing hard to get" and which girls genuinely don't want you there. If there's anything other than stark enthusiasm, you leave her the fuck alone.

You people are feloniously stupid.

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>>81962880
oh iam sorry did my facts ruffle your cuckold lib sensibilities?

The first rape he committed was rape. He could get off in court if he could get witness accounts of his sobriety.

Hannah never yelled for help like she does if a guy so much as looks at her in the rest of the series. She never tried to fight. She never said no or stop. She fidgeted then laid there soulless. It was her giving herself a reason to take her own life that wasn't "duh I told my fwiend to walk away n he did wut a jerk". Bryce was in the right in that scene.

>>81963409
jajaja

>>81963412
No you are a fucking retard because you are replying to bait, you dumb mongoloid

>>81963557
>replying to bait

">She didn't say no."
"Neither did Jessica. That's not how consent works."
was bait? face it, you got told, cuck

>>81963632
Jessica was also passed out drunk and trying to mumble no. Not an argument.

>>81963632
Holy shit, you dumb newfag I'm not the same guy. Now go fuck off, you retarded memespouting drone

>>81957811
Is Sam making these? MDE seems to make it into every starter pack.

>>81963632
>>81963662
Lol (you) >>81963632 are a fucking retard.

>be Hannah
>biggest self-pitying cunt in high school even though she has a perfectly happy upbringing and is well liked by everyone
>constantly grasping at straws to find fuel for her personal "tragedy" and eventual drama queen suicide
>walk in on dude Bryce raping her friend Jessica
>feel totally butt-blasted that now even Jessica has a sadder life than her and doesn't even know about it
>go to Bryce's party and linger around in his hot tub wearing a bikini
>he finally takes the bait and fucks her
>starfish and do bare minimum to resist him without risking actually causing him to stop because then she doesn't have a sad story
>YES!! now i finally have a more tragic story than that bitch Jessica!! time to pull the biggest john green bullshit ever and record a bunch of fucking cassette tapes guilt-tripping everyone who's ever looked at me sideways, then an hero in my bathtub where my loving parents will find me and be horrifically traumatized!

>>81963809
Get the fuck out of here mongoloid.

>>81963827
That's really this series in a nutshell.

>>81963827
Hit the nail right on the head, anon.

Couldn't stand watching past episode 3.

>>81963827
>ywn take Jessica's boyfriend's place and save her.
>ywn have to look at a gun in her hands and hope she doesn't shoot herself after shooting Bryce.
>ywn have to watch her spiral into alcoholism.
She was the only tragedy in this show. Why'd the focus have to be set on such an attention-craving bitch? And fuck that main cuck too, keying people's cars and shit for no reason. I'd have beat him down worse than Bryce.

>>81963900
>>81963908
And if we're being honest here, the actual reason chicks like Hannah slit their wrists in the bathtub, when you get past all the reasons they manufacture out of self-pity, is because they watch self-indulgent shows and movies that romanticize suicide.

>>81960791
>Asking for it each and every time makes you sound insecure.
Only because you are insecure. Get over your arrogance you childish faggot

>>81960550
>all you need to do is say "is this okay?" or "are you alright with this?"
Literally nobody does this. You sound like some kind of sperg.

>>81964064
Yeah there was all kinds of sad shit on the fringes of the show that apparently just wasn't worth anybody's time. Jessica's rape, Justin's abusive stepdad, and you know, Alex's fucking suicide at the end which apparently isn't worth any real fanfare because he didn't make a whole big thing out of it, so it's treated as a footnote.

>>81964171
Literally everyone does this if the girl is timid. Stop watching so much rape fantasy porn

>>81964135
Dude, I don't know which country you're from but I've literally never heard anyone, ever, no matter where they came from, to say they ask for consent for each sexual act or they initiate sex by declaring their interest in having so and asking for consent: the universal experience is of non-spoken consent, everything develops organically. Honestly what you said previously sounds like the most unpractical thing ever, it literally sounds like a thing a 14 years old girl who hasn't had sex and is afraid of men because her dad used to beat her mum would think.
Not only that, but it looks really unattractive from the perspective of a woman. I've heard all kinds of feminine sexual fantasies described, and in none of them the man spends time asking for consent for every bit of action.

>>81964232
I don't understand why Justin didn't simply beat his stepfather up. Wasn't he an athlete? At that age you can fuck older people up easily if you're in shape.

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>>81964339
>hey we're cool right?
>yea
>WOW THIS IS SO IMPRACTICAL, FUCKING LITERALLY NO ONE DOES THIS EVER HOW RIDICULOUS

>>81964389
>we're cool
How old are you? You need to be 18+ to post here.

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>>81964339
yea bro much better to take the chance of accidentally raping a woman than just getting over your pride and making sure she's okay with it

>>81960079
Are you a fucking virgin?.

Body language. Look it up.

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>>81964426
>accidentally raping

>>81957618
of course

>>81964389
I've heard autists can't read body language, but this is on another level, anon.

>>81960573
>Bryce's ignorance of the fact should exonerate him
As soon as he got into the hot tub with her, she acted uncomfortable, tried to leave and he pulled her back in. The held her down and had sex with her as she started to beg him to stop. There's no way a court wouldn't find him guilty of rape.

People can bring up her being at his house, having taken off her clothes, and gotten in the hot tub all the want, but she didn't even do any of that when Bryce was present. We don't even know if she knew it was his house. She was hanging out in a hot tub with her friends. Bryce showed up after she was alone, and she made it pretty clear she didn't want to do anything with him. The only reason he could have sex with her is because he pulled her back and held her down.

That's rape by pretty much anyone's standards, and she didn't make it ambiguous at all. Anyone that's saying it was ambiguous is either trolling, or has serious issues.

>>81964389
>hey we're cool right?
Sounds dorky as fuck but english isn't my first language so, whatever.
Anyway, you know there's a thing called body language, right? You know you can read it and understand people's intentions, right? And that people can voice opposition in case they disagree with what you do, right?
>>81964426
>accidentally raping a woman
How about
>try to do x
>she moves your hands away/moves herself away
>realize I shouldn't do x
I knew 4chin was full of autists but are you guys seriously telling me you wouldn't be able to function in a situation like that?

>>81964594
>she started to beg him to stop
I don't remember exactly how it went down but I definitely don't remember her ever saying "stop" or "no!" or anything of the sort, more like "I don't know if we should".

Women are turned off if you ask them before you kiss or grope. You still obviously need to "read the room" and the moment needs to feel right for both parties (which is easy if you're not a sperglord), but it is an active turnoff to women if you ask shit like "is it okay if I kiss you?" or "can I touch you here?" or some other retard shit, it's as big a no-no to women as verbalizing jealousy. Best way to ensure someone doesn't want to have sex with you is by asking if they want to have sex with you, and not just taking the initiative and taking the plunge of your own volition.

If they don't want it, it will be very easy to tell and things won't ever get to the point where sex or kissing could happen anyway.

Read the room and never whip out your autismal numale sensitivity and consent contract.

>>81964232
There's going to be a second season. They're not just going to end the series with all those loose ends.

>>81960836
Anon, let's not act like she didn't go there because the story had to have some actual reason for her to kill herself, before that it was just, i have no friends and I'm sad. That Clay scene was just so Clay could actually have a reasons to be pissed off about her death.

>>81964848
Yeah, really shitty writing.

>>81960836
Not just Clay, pretty much every guy she came across, and she always made a public show about it. As far as I'm concerned, her character begged for Bryce.

>>81962517
Nigger, she was at the party with friends, then they left, she was about to get out but then Bryce came into the tub and they talked, then she was tried to get out of the tub and he came up behind her and started dicking her, she was literally crying and trying to get out until she just stopped, she didn't moan or even show any sign that she was enjoying it.

>>81957618
>Was it rape?
yes, lmao. what kind of turbo autist would think it wasn't?

>>81957811
Why is Dawkins part of /pol/ ?
I thought atheism is (((their))) construct

>>81964674
She looks visibly uncomfortable when he gets in the hot tub with her. When he starts moving closer to her, she says that she wants to leave. When he gropes he, she says "sorry, I need to leave" and gets out of the pool. Those are pretty serious indications that she wasn't giving consent.

Think about like this: Say you're hanging out at a party and notice a cute girl hanging out in a hot tub with her friends. When her friends leave and she's alone, you get in with her, and she acts unforgettable and tries to leave. Would you really take that as her giving you the go-ahead?

>>81957618
>Clay
My name is Clay is this show representing me as a cuck?

>>81960555
Do you have a shaved head and a goatee? Because you sound like you have a shaved head and a goatee

>>81963130
She was in a bikini in a hot tub, she even tried to get out of tub which is how she was dicked in the first place, he had to hold her hands to the rim of the pool in order to stop her from leaving the pool and fuck her. That's rape, non-verbal consent is a conflicting statement.

>>81965022
I didn't say Bryce isn't a rapist, I was just saying she did very little to communicate her discomfort, unlike what you wrote earlier.

>>81964100
name one

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>>81965165

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was it sexual harassment?

>>81965205
>tfw you weren't the one to impregnate Shannyn with Audio Science

Feels bad man

>>81965241
Jesus!
For what purpose?

>>81965241
Thank you anon. This is exactly what I wanted to see posted. Movie is About Schmidt. Good flick.

>>81965246
>chick who named her son Audio Science
I think you dodged a bullet there m8

>>81965143
She literally tried to get out of the pool, how else would you communicate that you dont wanna fuck in a pool? And even she says "Well, uh, I'd better get going" and when he say's" You just got here" she clearly rejects him by saying "Sorry, I gotta go" and "My parents are probably super worried by now" How the fuck else is she supposed to say no without saying don't rape me?

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>>81964389
>>WOW THIS IS SO IMPRACTICAL

It's completely retarded because you are saying that anyone that doesn't do it is a "rapist".

>>81964426
>yea bro much better to take the chance of accidentally raping
>accidentally raping

Oh for fucks sake. You are completely brainwashed.

>>81964389
>>81964426
The only people who would disagree with you are virgins and rapists, so probably 90% of 4chan.

>>81965463

"no, I don't want to have sex with you. Stop right now or I'll scream (for help)".

>>81965660
I'm not that guy, but it's possible she was scared he would have reacted more violently if she was more assertive. It's an incredibly difficult situation to be in, and people undergoing trauma don't always behave rationally.

>>81965205
Isn't that the chick from Rules of Attraction? How many wrist cutting movies is she in?

>>81965623
(You)

>>81965623
You're probably a virgin if you can't read a woman's body language.

>>81965660
>>81965724

Yeah, well. It sucks to be put on the spot, but you have to try to defend yourself. Your feelings aren't more important than your actions.

>>81965143
>she did very little to communicate her discomfort
She literally tried to leave. Again, the only reason Bryce was able to have sex with her was because she pulled her back into the hot tub and held her down.

Again, are you really telling me that in the same situation you'd think a girl was giving you the go-ahead? A girl that had just tried to shut you down and leave the situation?

>>81965843
>you have to try to defend yourself.
Maybe she believed she was defending herself from violent recourse by submitting to him.

You're acting like these types of situations are completely black and white with an obvious "correct" course of action, but that's not how life works.

>>81965848
>>81965913

remember what she did when Clay tried to fuck her? Yeah, she could've done THAT.

>>81965553
>because you are saying that anyone that doesn't do it is a "rapist".
How could you possibly have gotten that from my post you fucking illiterate monkey? Off yousrelf

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>>81965843
>It sucks to be put on the spot, but you have to try to defend yourself. Your feelings aren't more important than your actions.
>t. NEET who has never been in a violent situation in his life
heh i would totally fuck that school shooter up! just charge him while he's reloading lmao better to die a hero than a coward

>>81965963
She's confident Clay will comply without bashing her face in. She knows Clay well and trusts him.

Bryce is basically a stranger to her, and a demonstrably strong and violent one.

>>81965913
>You're acting like these types of situations are completely black and white

No, an overwhelming majority of the time they are just black

>>81965553
>LOL THE TERM SOUNDS SILLY I'M GOING TO PUT IT IN GREEN TEXT!!!

>girl doesn't consent
>you think she does, and for her to have sex with you
That would constitute accidental rape.

>>81964676

>>81966075
This, it's Clay's fault for not going for the implication

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>>81965963
>unironically victim blaming
mock SJW culture all you want but you're being a fucking retard implying that it's her responsibility to stop him from raping her

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Welcome to your tape Jim.

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Bane? Welcome to your tape.

>>81965994

That's exactly what you believe, you scumbag feminist. You didn't even deny it.

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Welcome to your tape sirens.

The rape scene wasn't even in the book, right? She just got groped a little and called it a good enough reason to off herself

Dunno why they shoehorned such a poorly written scene in the show, maybe they felt being groped wasn't a good enough reason and they needed to SHOCK you into feeling sorry for an obviously mentally imbalanced teenager?

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>>81966112
>>PUT IT IN GREEN TEXT!!!

That's how quotes work, you retard. You insult me for using quotes correctly, then use the quote function to lie. You are the inversion of grammar as well as the inversion of morality.

>>you think she does
>That would constitute accidental rape

Not in a civilized country with just laws. That's why the Founding Fathers refused to give females the power to vote.

Unfortunately now our laws are written by feminist SJWs. A girl that never says no or fights back can claim "rape" with no evidence whatsoever. Men have to be mind readers and are guilty until proven innocent. Some countries are even trying to outlaw cross examinations during rape trials. All because of scumbags like you.

Why do we need multiple threads a day on this show?

>>81966688
name some shows you would rather see being discussed.

>>81966652
>Men have to be mind readers
>hurr how could i possibly glean insight into whether or not a woman wants to have sex with me
you could try asking? you only "have to be a mind reader" because you're too autistic to open your mouth you dumb cuck

>>81966709
Any other show but this one, there is no need to make multiple threads discussing the same thing every day.

Why not just make a general?

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>>81966652
>dude just ask her if she wants to fuck
>NO I'M NOT GOING TO ASK HER YOU FUCKING AUTIST VIRGIN WHY WOULD I DO THAT
>okay well then might get the wrong idea about whether she's consenting or not
>WOW MEN TODAY HAVE TO BE FUCKING MIND READERS IT'S LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO TELL WHAT A GIRL WANTS

>>81962922

Whats wrong with the picture? I see this shit happening all the time now.

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>>81966892

>>81963409

Not him but why is always so obvious when dealing with a /pol/tard?

>>81962953

Laugh or not but thats how the world works now with the current state of feminism. Its not even worth the effort anymore.

>>81966892
kek

>>81966767
>you could try asking?

No. They can open their own fucking mouth and say "stop". You are back to the retarded feminist argument. A man that doesn't ask is automatically a "rapist". Don't even try to deny it this time.

>>81966892

Two feminized millennials in the same brainwashed pod.

>>81966835
god forbid people like different things than you

>>81966112

Its rape anon. It isn't accidental rape. Let me guess, Her no's were actually accidental yeses?

>>81957811
>This triggers the /pol/ baby

>>81957981
Aww why are you so happy

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>>81960079

>>81957811
How dare you I'm from pol how do you know.

>>81967158
By "accidental" he means the rapist is unaware that it is rape.

>>81967239

But how? Does she not say anything? He would make more sense if the person couldn't speak or something.

>>81967134
That's not the point, i'm asking you do we really need multiple threads about this show?

>>81960550
Dudd ASS BURGER DURR

>>81957618
No, Hannah has proven to be an unreliable narrator and drama queen.

Spontaneity is dead, Lads. It sounds really awkward and a mood killer to ask a girl if you can kiss them but they can also cry sexual assault if you don't ask.

>>81967287
Yes, why not? I personally enjoy having multiple threads about it and assume others do too.

>>81967344
No, it's just hate boner.

Hannah is the female version of Elliot Rodger

>>81957811
rename it the "/tv/ kid starter pack" and you're 100% correct.

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>>81959766
you mean except Justin

>>81967409
If only fedorafags believe it

>>81967287
>>81966835
>>81966688
fucking tripfag kill yourself

>>81966892
When a chick starts undressing me I get pretty sure she's down to fuck and I don't need to blurt out 'a-a-are you o-o-okay with this?' like a fucking sperg.

Must suck if the only type of girl you can pull is the retarded one that thinks that stuff is cute.

>>81964235
>haha I called him a rapist what now

>>81967648
>When a chick starts undressing me
Yea exactly like the situation depicted in the show right you braindead cunt

>>81967725
It's not like the string of posts I was replying to was arguing about what consent means for the last 50 posts you daft fag.

>>81960550
First time me and the ex were gonna fuck she asked me if we were about to fuck. She wanted the d bad.

Asking verbally for consent is very autistic, I never had to say a single word to any girl I fucked, I really hope you guys arent this much of a sperg

>>81967927
You IP has been logged.

>>81967927
Go to sleep, Bryce.

This board proves once again that it is the dumbest board on this website.
Wow.

>>81968129
Nice try, but you see, im brown, i can legally do this in Europe

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>>81965781
>>81965781
Quite a few

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Dear Billy

Welcome to your tape

>>81960079
>Are you okay with this?
why would someone ask that, as if the woman is doing them a favor and doesnt REALLY want it but it's ok if he "does it to her"?

>>81965165

john wick

>>81967222
women want men to be spontaneously passionate, to take charge and lead like a real man, to make women feel like a little girl under daddy's dominance - it's their right to like that!

But ask first. Specifically do it in a Woody Allen voice

POST THE WEBM

>>81960550
you should also ask "hey are you ok with this? Are you sure? You dont think you're being a dumb slut right now? Are you sure you want to be do something like this with someone like me?"

>this is the type of person who eventually goes "you guys, i dont know if you're aware but women also like sex, you know? you virgins"

>>81957618
What fucking show is this REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>81970104
13 Reasons Why

And how am I supposed to know she's not just saying "yes" because she's afraid I'll get violent if she says no?

>>81957618
why did she join him in the jacuzzi when she knew he was a rapist?

>>81971461
She got in with her friends, he didn't show up until way later after they all left.

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>>81971405

>>81969889
How?

>>81963351
>This guy thinks women are logical and consistent with their behavior

Get a load of this virgin.