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>13 reasons why I must blame on others for my own failures

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>13 reasons why I must blame on others for my own failures
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13 reasons why i must guilt trip others for my lack of willpower
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13 reasons WAAAAAAHHHH
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>>81953657
>13 reasons why i had borderline personality disorder
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>13 reasons why i should give a shit about this show
Name literally one
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>>81954265
This
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>>81953657

>The tapes she makes literally says "these are the 13 reasons i kill my self, this is YOUR fault"
>People that did mundane shit, like saying she has a nice ass, is grouped together with a rapist for her reasons for taking her own life
>Clay (the main character) literally didn't do anything at all, and is niceguy.jpg, but she still put him on the tabes, because he didn't stay and talk to her after one of her tantrums where she tells him to "get the fuck out"
> which almost drive him to kill himself
>The guy that said she had a nice ass kill himself because of the tapes
>Ruins the life of a therapist because he didn't "help" her in the exact way she wanted him to help her, even though he tried (getting the name of the rapist etc, which she wouldnt say)
>Instead of talking with her friend that was raped she makes a tape about it and kill herself

it's a piece of shit show. The final conclusion of the show is basically "yeah it's our fault she killed herself, be nicer to people or they might comit suicide" the characters whom (rightly) points out that iin the end it was ultimatliy Hannahs descision to end her own life are the "evil" ones.
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>>81953657
13 reasons whine
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>>81953657
My 14 year old cousin recommended this to me. I promised I'd watch it for her. Could get past the 14th minute mark. What do I tell her as an excuse?
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>>81953657
but it's great
not my fault you can't enjoy profound things
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>>81955186
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>>81955186
at least try next time you waste of skin
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>>81954959
Just watch it, it gets better in the last 4 episodes.
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Why does this YA shit sell so well to teens and 40 year old white women?
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>>81955476
because they both like drama
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>>81955436
>the worst episodes are actually the best
>watch it dood

Yeah man, totally listen to this anon.
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>>81954265
Cool rape scene.
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>>81955503
>*says the opposite of what anon said*
>*doesn't attempt to substantiate it*
>heh, that'll show him.
>i'm totally not a contrarian guys!
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>>81955491
It's not even good drama, It's either melodramatic or saccharin like that film about that teen with cancer
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>>81955640
dood, high school is so tough when you're a white middle-class attractive female
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>>81955596
>I'll recommend a shit show by implying the very last episodes are actually worth watching
>While this is where the awful story, which gets worse every single episode, reaches its apex of shit
>Anon won't find out until he's wasted all this time on shit lol
>Any anon who disagrees I'll just contrarian lol
>Everybody needs to substantiate their opinions and reasoning, except me!
>I am the most EBIN OF TROLLZ XD
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I literally only skimmed through for the rape scenes.
They weren't even that good either
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>>81954959
Tell her you couldn't watch it because the rape scenes were triggering
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>>81954959
Post her pics
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>>81955819
and lack of black actors
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>>81955730
You're a "my taste is objectively the best" type of autist, aren't you?
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>>81955998
>what an ironic comment
>you a hypocrit autist fag loser
>takes one to know one
>NO WAY FAG

Pick whatever comment makes you feel best about yourself.
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>>81953657
The dialogue in this show pisses me off so much, teenagers don't talk like this.
The forced earnesty and sarcasm is complete bullshit, people don't talk like that. Is it because the writers are all 30 and removed from """youth culture"""? Surely they know people don't talk like this, and never have.
Netflix writers are such fucking hacks I swear to christ.
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I cba watching this, how does she kill herself and has anyone got a webm?
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/tv/ has become a place where you try to troll people into watching garbage if they say i couldnt get into it first few episodes you tell them it gets better they go back and finish and realize theyve wasted hours of their time and anonymous who recommended it feels epic for the win!
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>>81956817
>has become
/tv/ has horrendous taste in shows
there is dr who general that has been going for god knows how fucking long now
that's the one thing you absolutely don't trust this place in
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>>81954653
I'm pretty sure the point of putting Clay on there was so he could hear her story moreso than
>you walked away :'(
They weren't passing on the tapes to people outside of the group, remember?
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>>81954653
>the main character has to be likeable for a series to be good
>yfw

Also, the point of the show is that it probably wasn't any one thing that made her kill herself. It was all of them, piled one over another. Hell, maybe not even the rape alone might have "killed" her if she would have had a friend or a bf to commiserate with.
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>>81955476
>40 year old white women

They miss being young and good looking.
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>>81957014
the show is saying it's okay to be weak minded and that others are directly responsible for your own actions
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>>81954653
>>81957103
God damn, I wonder what it's like to be this obtuse/autistic.
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>>81954959
Jesus Christ, just tell her you got bored with it.
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>>81957103
Welcome to your tape, anon.
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>>81955476
Because women stop maturing mentally at 25.

Something that appeals to a 25 year old woman will probably appeal to a 40 year old woman too.
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>>81957014
>I like edgy bullshit where everyone is a bad person because that better reflects my cynical edgelord faggot views of reality

k bruv
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>>81954265
She's attractive and Clay's hopeless attempts to get with her will make you reminisce hard about your own unhappy high school experiences.
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>>81955436
>>81955503
>>81955850
>>81955819
>>81957188
Update. I told her what you anons have been saying in this thread. List 13 reasons why I should watch it. She said:

>Bc it teaches u to to bully
>And it's just very good!
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>>81958751
Books>Mainstream media
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>>81954959
If you could get past the 14 minute mark, then why do you need an excuse for her? Jesus christ, learn to speak English properly you fucking degenerate (no offence)
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>>81957014
Name one unlikable main character in a good film or series with a proper plot structure before your autist ass gives me some shit that doesn't even have characters.

Note I said unlikable, not bad. There are tons of straight-up evil main characters and they still muster up sympathy in one way or another. But name one that is objectively unlikable and the movie is still great.
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>>81958944
>Name one unlikable main character in a good film
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>>81958914
*couldn't. What the other anons could understand using context, you couldn't. Also are you bullying me to get me to commit suicide?
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>>81958944
>Name one unlikable main character in a good film or series with a proper plot structure before your autist ass gives me some shit that doesn't even have characters.


In movies

>ghost world
Moody bitch that decides to be "cynical" just because.
Pretty decent movie.
>gone with the wind
Whiny bitch that gets no redemption in a fucking 4h movie.
Masterpiece.
>clockwork orange
Aautisitc edgy faggot that goes on the street to beat people for fun.
I don't particularly like it, but it is widely popular.

In books:

>lolita
Literal pedophile.
One of the greatest works of XX cent. literature.
>catcher in the rye
Whiny faggot complaining about everything being "phony".
Controversial book, but almost required reading for every kid in the Nation.
>the great gatsby
Self explanatory.
The great American novel.
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>>81955515
Cute
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>>81955745
>trying to fap
>can't reach orgasm
Shame
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>>81953657
Most of them weren't even bad. The rape was the only thing that made sense for her to feel a bit bad. What the fuck is wrong with normie millennial women?
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>>81956635
At least the dialogue isn't as cringeworthy as life is tumblr
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Honestly the world could use some more hyper-entitled teenage roastie suicides, they end up becoming the coal-burner's and liberal-voting worthless cunts who are destroying western society anyway...better they kill themselves before they take the rest of us with them.
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>>81953657
Give me (1) fucking reason why Hannah is even slightly responsible for how she got killed. Explain to me how any decent human being could blame her
-not the people who did all those horrible and disgusting things to her, ho no no, not them-
HANNAH!!! for her own death??

Fucking sickos
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>regret having sex with chad
>kill yourself
roasties BTFO
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>>81954265
don't
i tried to watch this just today and dropped it after 20 minutes or so
terrible acting and main character is so fucking ugly
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>>81957103
No it's not. How do retards still not get that you're supposed to judge Hannah as much as anyone else? They didn't exactly make her a pure innocent victim.
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>>81961398
what are you saying? the entire show is a guilt trip over the people who treated hannah bad
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>>81961181
That criticism doesn't count but this is 4chan what do I expect
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>>81961398
That's why we are supposed to like the idea of a civil suit against a suicidal student's school because they didn't reorganize student society to protect her from her feelings?


Get bent m8
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>>81961143

i have no sympathy for this whore. my best friend killed himself because some roastie didnt want him anymore. fuck her.
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WHY THE FUCK WOULD ONE GIRL GET OFFENDED FOR BEING COMPLIMENTED FOR HER ASS?

fuck this show. I once complimented a girl for her nice ass, she smiled and thanked me, not paused in shock and stared at the horizon while thinking to kill herself.
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>>81953657
lel this show was so embarrassingly pathetic.the chick killed herself for the stupidest shit ever. I think it was still a pretty well made show, and entertaining. But jesus christ I just could not bring myself to care about this chicks
"problems" at all. People saying you have a nice ass is one of your biggest problems? Fucking seriously?
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>>81961966
>not paused in shock and stared at the horizon while thinking to kill herself.
I've decided i'm going to do stuff like this from now on, to improve MOODIENESS and TONE of real life.

Its
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>>81954959
Tell her you got distracted thinking of her sitting on your face.
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>>81961181
Clay or Hannah?
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>>81956656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIBq5m_B1cE
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>>81953657
But that's /pol/ ever does.
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>>81954959
Tell her you'll watch it with her if you can give her a foot massage the whole time. Also tell her none of the people did anything wrong except the rapist's first rape, which he was drunk for and might have a case in court.
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>>81962423
WHERE'S THE FUCKING AND RAPE WEBMS REEE
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>>81962467
What if the jews actually are to blame
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>>81955713
You sound like you came straight out of tumblr. Fuck off.
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>>81956635
*normies don't talk like that

ftfy desu senpai :p
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>>81962533
glad my sarcasm is on point
i may have a chance to work as a netflix writer then
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>Makes it a point to make a spectacle out of guys talking to her by saying everything they say very loudly and taken out of context.
>Very yelly bitch.
>Gets into a tub her friend's rapist then enters.
>Basically gives a known pussy slayer the go-ahead while looking like a dead fish.
She asked for it.
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>>81955515
post the webm
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>>81958944
is this b8?

is this really where /tv/ has sunk to?
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>>81962423
why would she cut herself vertical and not horizontal? doesn't she understand how veins work?
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>>81953657
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>>81963004
You bleed out faster and its harder to repair.
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>>81963004
Do YOU know how veins work?
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>>81963084
would you cut a cord horizontal or vertical?
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>>81963127
The goal is to bleed the most, not to "separate" you stupid retarder nigger.
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>>81963004
m8 the cut scene was the only thing this show had going for it. Don't ruin that.
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Well it's all through the viewpoint of teenagers and guilty parents, of course they ride the blame ride willingly
It's only in the last episode where you see an actual voice of reason through the counselour when he pretty much says straight away "maybe there's nothing you could've done, when people are fucked up enough that they won't reach for support and will consider suicide instead it's really out of everyone's hand"

Bryce is a badly written cartoon character though, it would've been much more interesting if the rape thing came from a misunderstanding or drunken regrets with the main characters instead. You know, actual grey area conflict, instead of making it easy by drawing from a mustache twirling whiskey drinking billionare villain.
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>>81963352
>Bryce is a badly written cartoon character though, it would've been much more interesting if the rape thing came from a misunderstanding or drunken regrets with the main characters instead. You know, actual grey area conflict, instead of making it easy by drawing from a mustache twirling whiskey drinking billionare villain.
They are already pushing the idea that women should have zero responsibility to stand by their accusations or participate in basic due process of law, so no I don't think it would have been better if we had the same unrealistic self-absorbed demands that Hannah attached to her encounter with Bryce being attached to a hook up between two people who clearly had tension, one of whom is psychologically kung fu'd by his infatuation to her. We have enough false rape complaints and manipulated confessions as it is.
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I've seen like 3 people so far say Hannah is ugly... how the fuck is she? She's really the only reason I watched the show and fapped to the thought of Marcus's BBC inside her.
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>>81959033
>implying hes unlikeable
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>>81963518
I thought she was a qt. She was the chick with the lung problem in bates motel right?
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agreed and i blame the numale "father" aswell
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>>81963518
I think the people saying she's ugly are just trying to be contrarian. But you're right, I think if she got fucked by a nice BBC she wouldn't have killed herself.

>>81963563
That was someone else
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>>81963635
This is true actually
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>>81963518
She is super mediocre looking and basic, its like Default: the white woman snowflake human bean.
It doesn't helps that she is kinda fat without being thicc and that she already has a ton of beta orbiters like you praising her for being barely fuckable...which hilariously shows you the bs premise of the show in full colour.
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>>81962551
Nobody except autistic losers talks like that.
I don't think you talk like that either, but just in case you do, you should kill yourself.
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>>81963635
initially I disagreed but now that I think of it.. you're probably correct
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>>81964147
She has great eyes
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>>81965698
and lips

i want her to succ my dick so bad
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>>81962487
Go to infinity chan for that stuff
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>>81964609
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>>81958360
>projecting this hard
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>13 reasons why I would ever bother finding a cassette player to play this shit
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Is the main character of this show schizophrenic? He hallucinates like 10-20 times per episode
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>>81958944
Are you serious? Star Wars
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>>81953657
Yea I think it sounds retarded, so I havent watched it and dont plan to. In fact I wouldn't even know this shit exists if you fuck tards didnt stop pretending to hate it when you're really shilling.
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>>81963476
>We have enough false rape complaints and manipulated confessions as it is.
Women amirite?
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>>81953657
Get off the internet, Bryce. We know what you did
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>>81966500
>implying that you're virgin throughout high school
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>>81957103
No, its saying a character believed that and this is her story. Fucking idiot.
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>>81966753
The same thing that happens to me with teen titans go.
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what's the appeal of a show about suicide of a teenage girl?
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>>81967053
The great rape scenes
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>>81967019
I watched that before, its funny how the characters act like incompetent deconstructions of themselves. Sometimes.
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>>81967053
>Why do people find death and youth interesting?!

Gee I dunno
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>>81953657
13 reasons why this show is PROBLEMATIC and you shouldn't be watching it!
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>>81958360
I never attemped to get with any girl ever in my life
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13 reasons why jess is so fertile
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who else painted their fingernails blue as a tribute to hannah
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>>81954959

"It's shit for teenage girls, I don't like it"
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>>81958360
reddit please go
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>>81968427
i asked the chad on my school to rape me as a tribute
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>>81968427
I fucking hate Normie trends and virtue signaling
I want to fucking die
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>>81953657
>Hey anon would you help me study?
What do you do?
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Hannah deserved to get BLACKED
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The whole Bryce rape seemed so contrived. It is as if the writers didn't feel convinced enough that the rest of the "reasons" would justify her killing herself, so they tack a rape at the end of it to make it "serious" enough.

The problem then becomes that they frame a rapist as morally equivalent to a well-intentioned counselor, some kid who said she had a great ass, and a literal nice guy who went away when he was told to.
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> Oh look a rapist
> I should join his house party
> I should undress myself and get into a whirlpool with him
> The other guys are leaving, well I should stay alone with him

> Eww that guy is sitting alone, that is so weird
> Waaah no one notices me Im all alone

> I should guilt trip the decent guy that actual had feelings for me while I threw myself at all the chads
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>>81963518
I wouldn't call her ugly, but I do find her unattractive, and she's a gooey kind of fat instead of a nice plump.
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>>81969798
you know the show is based on a book? the bryce character is supposedly real
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>>81964147
>>81970291
How the fuck is she fat?
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>>81970428
he didn't even rape her in the book
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>>81968761
>tfw no Jeff to suck off after baseball practice
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>>81970254
but he wasn't in the whirlpool at first, Hannah jumped in because Jess told her to
he came in after everyone else has already left
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>>81959363
>Catcher in the rye
>"""""good"""""
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anyone have webm of sluthannah getting her ass grabbed in episode 3
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>show attempts to make me feel bad about a beautiful girl living life on easy mode
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>>81968427
>>81968603
She's the executive producer
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>>81968761
Jeff is the only character i like and i hope it stays that way(only on episode 8)
>Chad
>good looking
>genuinely nice fella
I wish I had a friend like Jeff.
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>>81972886
well done anon, however...
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>"FML Forever"
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>>81972886
,':^)
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>>81953657

>lol fuck causality shit just magically happens totally independently of everything else

who the fuck pay you retarded niggers to spam your nation killing ideologies here all day
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>implying bryce isnt the coolest chad in television history
>implying bryce isnt the best character
>tfw bryce will never have your back in a fight
>tfw you will never drop by bryces pool house with your friends whenever you want just to smoke weed and play video games and generally shoot the shit with your alpha bros
>tfw bryce will never buy you basketball shoes and tells you it was a spair pair because hes too humble

why even live?
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>>81972026
Is that so? I remembered that part wrong then, sorry.
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hannahs a fucking bitch

>blames counsellor for not helping her even though she wont reveal any details about the rape

>blames alex for her death for a stupid high school list

>why the fuck was zach even on the tapes to begin with???

>kill herself because she didnt want to get fingered my marcus

hannah bakers a stupid bitch.
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>>81954179
I FELL DOWN IN THE DESERT BAY-BEH! YEAH!

I HAD NOTHING BUT A PIECE A PAYPEEEER! OHHH YEEEE~AHHHH!!!
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The good news about this show is maybe it will cause more roasties to kill themselves.
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the memes are good though
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>people are assholes
>I'll kill myself, that will show them!
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>>81972624
Right? She was a spoiled cunt.
Bryce did nothing wrong
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>>81953657
My fiance started watching this. From what I can gathered, some overblown egomaniac girl who fancied herself an 'intellectual' and a 'writer' killed herself and somehow its everybody else's fault, and everybody else's problem. Especially the cuck kid with the forehead wound.
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>>81975106
Bryce did do something wrong. The rest of them, not so much.
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>>81974887
I can fap to this.
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>>81955476
dumb people
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My main problem with the show so far, is that I don't get Hannah being the type of person do be so vindictive. I could see messing with the rapist, but, otherwise this whole thing doesn't add up to me. The biggest mystery is why the girl they are depicting in these episodes is the type who would setup this whole thing. It just seems out of character for anyone who doesn't have some kind of wild personality disorder, which - so far - they haven't shown her as having.
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>>81975242
Well Jessica was a total slut and overall dumb bitch.
Justin was pretty stupid to deal with her shit after she showed no sympathy for him:

Bryce was the only guy that gave him at least something similar to a family, which probably prevented Justin from becoming a meth shit and made it possible to attend school properly.
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>>81975283
duh
why did you think I made this gif?
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>>81973836
don't say it
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What did bryce mean by this?

https://vid.me/iTUH
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>>81963004
Don't tell me, you made the classic error?
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>>81953657
So, is this show good or not?
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>>81977307
Moderately entartaing to watch, but it's fucking dumb and you quickly realise it.
The main actress is hot though.
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>>81977518
Why does everyone say this?
She has an attractive face but it's ruined by her being chubby.
In the real world she would be attractive but not too attractive.
In the show her and jessica were treated like they were so hot when they weren't.
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>>81977307
Yeah
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>>81977640
Look at this fag, he doesn't like chubby girls.
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post her boobs and shoulders pls
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>>81977640
Dunno honestly. I am normally attracted to very skinny chicks, that's the first bigger one. I guess I really like her face,
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>>81977708
say no more
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>>81977640
she isn't chubby. She's T H I C C
Even with a diet she can't lose those wide shoulders and bi cheekbones
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>>81974887
This scene plays out in a way exclusively aimed at inflation fetishists.
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>>81977640
They're treated as attractive because the book characters were attractive. They just cast average (Hannah) to homely (Jessica) actors for the parts.
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>>81961669

You aren't meant to like it, or dislike it. The story isn't some clear cut "good and bad" story. People are complicated, motives are mixed. Hannah probably felt like all these people were to blame to some extent, as an observer who sees all the other stuff going on you have the ability to make your own mind up.

To me the lawsuit felt like the desperate act of parents looking for closure for the death of their daughter.
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I would bury my face in her little big plump ass and sniff her farts
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I'm watching this show now after having watched Christine for the first time earlier. I feel like this is the total opposite of that movie where it made commiting suicide a selfish and spiteful move. I had a family member kill them selves and I have seen how it damages the people that are affected by it. This show makes me sick.
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>>81978365
why do i still visit this place
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>>81977640
These threads are full of Betas and bitches that feel identified with a 5/10.
What did you expect?
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>>81978597
go back to /co/ you virgin fat manchild
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>>81954200
this. textbook.
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>>81953657
your joke fell flat at open mic because it wasn't funny and also nobody watches this trash
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>>81973836
>>81974362
>>81976510
WHAT THE FUG DID JEFF DIE IN THE ACCIDENT FUCK THIS HE DIDNT DESERVE IT FUCK THEM ALL
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Anyone else thought that jeff was just in clay's head?
He was just so nice ;__;
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>>81979654
I just want an irl friend like Jeff that will help me get a qt gf
Why did he have to die bros he was so nice and cool
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>>81979727
I actually met people like jeff in rl, they usually give up sooner though when you reject them a lot.
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>>81968603
#Pray4Paris
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>>81956635
Teenagers do talk like this, except maybe a bit meaner. They talk shit all the time but not in person anymore. They definitely wouldn't make a fucking paper list on a girls ass tho, it would be more like face mash than that.
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I just marathoned Episode 1 and no fucking way are teenagers in (CURRENT YEAR) listening to Joy Division.
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>>81957014
It's a teen series aimed at that demo. So they want a flawed character and to tell the story in a compelling way.

But it comes to a point at which the character shouldn't be some whiny sad sack egomaniac that blames others for smaller insignificant things. It also makes these new gen teens more snowflake like as they whine about the smallish bs.
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>>81959033
>a driven man who's looking for his money
>also embodies America's greed
>is unlikeable

He's interesting to watch too.
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>>81974547
>tfw bryce will never rape you in his hot tub while you try to go home
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>>81974887
Jesus Christ. Was not expecting the show to go that far and show shit like this.
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>>81980649
Why not? Youtube seems to flaunt them everywhere
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>>81954265
Netflix BTFO
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>>81954959
Just lie, protip, fourteen year old ghirls aren't the brightest
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The cut scene was actually pretty confronting.
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>>81981674

wait are there not new depressing bands for teenagers to listen to? do people still cut themselves to MCR or Linkin Park?
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>>81983607
>>81980649
Nigga joy division has always been a teenage "look how deep my music tastes are, I listen to joy division" for a long ass while now.

Not to say that Joy Division is bad even though I personally don't like them, its just the reality that I see with teens.
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>>81978604
As well as faggots who just wandered out of their containment board /r9k/ (You).
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Benis
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Is this supposed to be a big thing? First I'm ever hearing about this.
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>>81955596
>doesn't mention that the guy he replied to didn't substantiate his post either
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>>81977518
God I want her to wrap her DSL around my dick and suck me dry HNNNGH
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Is this better or worse than "The OA"
Because that was fucking terrible
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>>81987909
One has an IMDB score of 7.9 (which is awful for a tv-show) and the other has 8.9 so you tell me.
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>>81988057
How
Literally how the fuck has the OA got a score that high
They teleport a school shooter with the power of dance
Thats an actual thing that happens
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>>81968427

pfhahaha
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>>81953657

i wish i could save her and then shed repay me with pusy
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>>81954653
That's why you need the rape otherwise it would be an accurate story about female suicide except all the slut shaming is actually true
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>nice ass
>not suckingcocksest lips
>not biggest T H I C C chest

PLOT ALL
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>>81956888
>these people are actually smart!!!
>the show is very well thought through
>break own rule of show and cliffhanger is 'our mc was safe all along hehe'
>it's a it takes 2 weeks to listen to 10 hours of your dead slut's suicidal accusations: for plot reasons :3
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Why was her ass voted for the best in the whole school?
I mean it's not that good.
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>>81957014
>sit in jacuzzi with bloke you saw rape friend
>when he tries it off with you, you lightly place a hand on his chest to push him off while being silent
>HE SHOULD OF KNOW IT WAS RAPE BECAUSE I WAS SILENT, WENT THROUGH THE MOTIONS OF IT AND NEVER SAID NO OR INDICATED I DIDNT WANT TO
>we find this man guilty because the background ambiance and music clearly show it to be a rape!!!!
>your friend sent out a photo of a upskirt; you caused my death
>you wrote that my ass was the best in the class to make your girlfriend who was pulling away jealous; you killed me
>you were obsessed with me and took photos because you were in love with me, when you apologise and ask to be friends I laughed at the autistic virgin you are hahaha loser; you caused me to kill myself and I will be sending others to deal with you
>you slapped me because ur boyfriend dumped u and although I never denied it; u killed me
>you put my poem in a magazine anonymously at no detriment to me; you killed me
>clay u never made a move even though I always loved you (even though I fucked with everyone but you) but you let me down by leaving so ironically it's ur fault that both gals get raped
>u were mean and took my anonymous drawings that I get daily because I abused you in front of the entire lunch hall when you asked me out; you killed me
>you turned up to a date with friends and treated me easy (didn't know clay liked me hehe ;3); your fault I'm dead
This show is horrendous and Hannah is worthless
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>>81961398
>not a pure innocent victim
>furthest she went was kissing despite gagging for it none stop
>Hannah lied!!!!!
>make sure to show and repeat she didn't
>even make black counsellor the bad guy cause he asked for rapist name and was trying to help
Only way this show is redeemable is if kids move on and forget her except for clay cause what she has done to him is as bad as anything that happened to her.
ALSO BASED RAPIST BETTER WALK FREE SEASON 2 AND STALKER AUTIST SHOULD SHOOT UP SCHOOL/have been the one to kill that faggot Alex, not another suicide because he got cucked by footy captain and rapist
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>>81988057
>imdb score of 7.9 (which is awful for a tv-show)

it's sad how true this is
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What percentage of this hate is simply because the subject is a women? Is a lot of this /tv/ just taking out their interpersonal relationship problems with women out on a story of one struggling?
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>>81970428
>supposedly real
>book has 87 different endings
>survives pill popping in books to live happily ever after
Almost as if they were going for shock value and nothing else, hmmm imagine being retarded as this cunt.
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>>81974152
>friends for 2 weeks then kills herself
>/tv/ and normies "OMG ITS ART NO BULLY ANYMOER POOER ANNAH
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>>81980912
>try to go home
>lying
Lol she put her hand on his chest and then turned around and took it, without the mood music it wouldn't even be a rape
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>>81977640
An angelic face like that makes you forget everything about her body desu.
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>>81954959
is she cute
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>>81954265
Fapworthy rape scene.
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The real reason she topped herself was because she lost her parents money and got herself raped. Tapes 1-11 and maybe 13 were complete filler.
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>>81988930
Hannah is a shit character but everybody around her is equally shit, i guess she gets so much hate because she is on her high horse pointing fingers while abusing her shield anti-criticism called death.

It's like when somebody crooked you know dies and nobody has the heart to say what the person really is except, in this case, this person left a manifesto calling everybody a shithead and assigning blame on top of it.
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>>81961398
well than majorty of its audience seemed to miss that point and are shitposting on media about muh hanna
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>>81989988
you must be fast as lighting
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>>81988618
This. I get angry when people think she did nothing wrong or try to make excuses based on her age or emotional state
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>>81990035
>she is on her high horse pointing fingers while abusing her shield anti-criticism called death.
I wonder if the author looked at it this way. I'm not that far into the show, but, no one seems to be calling her out on that yet.
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>>81980859

>america's greed

way to misunderstand the movie
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>>81988940
idk, mate
i don't read chick's novels
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>>81990173
she is dead,so no one will
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>>81990276
>I don't read
You don't work either
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>>81954959
Tell her you had to defrost your freezer. That's what I tell everyone when I can't do something.
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Two fundamental problems with this show.
>>Why didn't you all try harder to save me?
>>Lol cbf I killmyself

And secondly
>>teehee you all regret it now I'm dead

I feel like the first is just awful writing, and the second is inexcusable. I know we say this shit is for teenaged girls. But it's not even good shit for teenaged girls, it just perpetuates roastie princess mentality.
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>>81991308
I can't wait for dumb roasties to try and emulate this with the packages and all and have it not work at all. Like they fail to kill themselves then the package is sent FedEx to the first person and they just give it to the authorities/their parents/the school or just throw it out.
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>>81953657
>a guy everyone said was an asshole was an asshole
>my friends outgrew me
>my old friend said i had a nice ass
>school creep creeped on me
>while i knew someone was spying on me i got drunk and naked and lesbian'd out
>expected girl to be fine with being a lesbian with me the town edgelord
>another asshole everyone warned me about was an asshole
>screamed at asian guy twice and he got upset over it, not reading my pity note
>i wrote a great poem and someone published it
>someone who was abused in his home and only had one escape didnt immediately run to turn his friend in to the cops
>someone knocked down a stop sign and has to live forever with indirectly killing someone, this is somehow my problem
>only nice person ive ever known in town i treated like hot trash
>said rapist from earlier threw a party, i attended it, got almost naked, hopped in a jacuzzi, didnt stop his advances, and got raped. This surprised me.
>counciler couldnt get anything out of me at all and didnt chase after me when i left angry he didnt help

There. I summarized everything. Dont watch this shit. Its such absolute garbage.
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The part with the counselor genuinely upset me. How the fuck can you blame him if you won't even tell him what happened? How is he supposed to press charges on your behalf if he doesn't know who to charge and you don't want people to know about it? There's confidentiality requirements when it comes to being a counselor and he's walking a thin line trying to help your ass. Give the man some help so he can help you. Don't try to frame him and act like he's actually the reason you killed yourself, fuck.
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>parents file a law suit
Well that part is realistic. Lol Americans
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>>81990035
>equally shit
Asian jock guy did nothing wrong. He tried to be her friend and she flipped on him so he fucked with her a little bit by taking her papers every now and then. That's nothing compared to an actual rape.
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>>81953657
Were you too dumb to realise Hannah was transitioning FtM and that Hannah's suicide a metaphor for her gender reassignment surgery to Clay? Hannah is a reflection of Clay in the series poster.
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Hannah can call the cops over a stop sign but not two rapes or stalking?

What is her problen?
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Is this the Life is Strange of /tv/?
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>>81991909
4 out of 5 stop signs surveyed in college admit to being knocked over but they don't go to police because of shitlords like you.

Check your pole privilege
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>people cry about Riverdale shilling but not this

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>81991544
Does anybody in the show actually aknowledge that she was being a bitch?
Don't get me wrong, the rape was probably terrible but if someone sent me a tape depicting what I did wrong according to her I'd send that to the proper authorities. I mean if I wasn't the rapist, what are they gonna do? Tell me I made a girl sad?
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>>81993504
Skye Williams calls her out for being weak.

Everyone else lives in leftist lalaland where feeling=facts
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>>81961966
also, it's like the girl who got voted "best ass" somehow is more of a victim than the girl who got "worst ass". Like we are supposed to think that even compliments are always microaggresions. Then you wonder why in college they try to police your speech with that safe space bullshit.
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>>81963004
i've always wanted to post this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J46CgNDBUxY
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>>81953657
I just finished binging the first episode. Hit a little too close to home for me.
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>>81994662
Don't worry bro, it get's worse.

Both life and the show
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Why did no one just go to the cops straight away?
Especially those with the most trivial offences.
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>>81974887
That scream was pretty haunting
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>>81968603
if you do please leave at least 7 tapes explaining in detail which 4chan boards led you to it. Include me in the recording
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Hello (OP)
Welcome to (your) tape
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>>81994948
>This next person constantly made me small and powerless
>Did you do it on purpose? Was it all part of your master plan?
>Well congratulations you got me to kill myself.
>Yep, tape number 2 is for you Bane.
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>>81979654
at first i thought Tony was only in Clay's head. He was straight out of the 1980s and you almost always saw him alone with Clay.
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>>81979843
for me personally, the only "Jeff like" guys are the kind of guys who are successful at sports and social life and are nice to anyone, but never take a stand when they see some fucked up shit because they NEED to be liked by everyone, both the cool kids and the losers. They navigate through highschool in easy mode because they don't bother anyone, and like you said if they try to help they give up quick. I'm not saying they're wrong in doing that, just that they're not saints like Jeff was portrayed.
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>it's a truman masturbates to JAV then cries for hours tape
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>>81954959

JUST FINISH THE TAPES, CLAY
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>>81990960
Mind if i use this?
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>>81980649
Joy Division is basically hipster kit requirement in your early 20s. They're one of the most important New Wave bands and i think they included them because Ian Curtis killed himself. Personally i'm glad they used JD music instead of Nirvana because at least Ian wasn't a whiny bitch like Kurt Cobain and had a more understandable reason to kill himself (also he had the guts to use a rope and not a fucking shotgun)
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>>81980859
that's not Killing them softly anon...
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>>81994819
Because this show is actually really fucking bad if you stop to think about it. It's entertaining though
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>>81993405
>4 out of 5 stop signs surveyed in college admit to being knocked over but they don't go to police because of shitlords like you.
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>that scene where Justin gets thrown out of the room and sits downstairs on the couch while his girlfriend is getting raped upstairs
I wanted to throw my fucking TV out the window. What kind of weak son of a bitch does that? Even if he can't beat Bryce in a fight, Bryce can't rape and fight at the same time. Hes not some weird demigod that can fight like Mile Tyson with a drunk girl hanging off the edge of his dick. He could have protected his girlfriend, or better yet, have gotten help from all the other dudes downstairs. And then he watches his mom get drugged and railed out every day and all he does is cry like a bitch.

Fucking cucks I swear.
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>leads on generic self-insert MC
>about to have sex
>WTF OMG GET OUT AHHHHHH GET OUT!!!!!!!!!
>Are you sure you want me to go? You were ok before?
>GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>wtf why did he leave, wow i cannot believe this welcome to the tape

Fuck women. If he stayed he would have been charged with rape and put in jail.
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>watch friend get raped
>don't report rapist, get mad at completely unrelated shit
>actually gets a hold of a phone and reports a minor offense instead of the rape during conversation with police
>gets raped the next week
I shouldn't have laughed, but I did. That's some good irony.
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teenage girl power fantasy can't believe you idiots watch this show. if you unironically enjoy this show you are the problem with /tv/
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>>81967873
Thats the saddest thing I've ever read in the 10 years I've been posting on 4chan
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>literally wants to kill clay to hide that he's a cuck
>expect us to feel bad
I wish Seth would have beaten him some more
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JUST POST THE FUCKING RAPE WEBMS ALREADY
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so I just watched the first episode and so far the dead chick seems like a whiny pretentious bitch making mountains out of molehill and the beta friend listening to the tapes seems like he has a literal cuck fetish
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>>81953657
>tfw had to watch this entire shitfest for girl i'm into
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>>81993243
I was thinking this the entire time. "WOW SO DEEP" plot with shitty """teenage""" dialogue obviously written by out of touch middle aged women
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>>81999321
She's the only reason I watched this flick of a show too. I hate myself for it.
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>>81990173
Twilight calls her out on her shit.
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The show is pretty good as a depiction of the mindset of the current teenage high school student: pretty much hyper-aware of their feelings, nothing can be outright fun, no matter what you do someone else is being stepped on in the process: parents are well meaning but teenagers think they're too smart to listen despite parents showing them kindness and understanding.

The main lesson I got from this is girls can't handle objective reasoning, critical thinking or self-evaluation unless someone (cough, cough, a guy) validates them into doing it.

When I found out that Clay's reason for being on the tape was for not being rapey, and generally being a good guy, I fucking laughed and resigned myself to knowing the show's values are fucked beyond belief.

Looking forward to season 2.

/blog
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>>81962777
Lol I know what a dumb bitch I guess she just had to cuck clay b4 killing herself
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>>81953657
I had never heard of this but looked it up, the only full plot description was on the page for the book, so this may not be accurate to the show:

>She admits that Clay was the nicest person she ever met and that she wishes they had had more time to get to know each other.

Instead, though, she kills herself and denies him that possible friendship, but decides to let him know about it after the fact anyhow so he can hurt thinking about said lost friendship instead of never knowing and not having to feel as bad.

>Clay, while at a party, connected with Hannah and later made out with her. Hannah, after being reminded of Justin while kissing Clay, along with all other people she had kissed in the past, asks Clay to leave the room. Clay does, and afterward she cries.

I get it now, she'd literally kill herself than be with a guy who treats her decently as opposed to the other males she's interacted with.

> Hannah hides in the closet and witnesses Jessica being raped by Bryce. Justin knew about the rape and let it happen.

Did Justin *watch* it and let it happen, like Hannah did?

I was going to go on about this, but shit. There's too much to go on about. This shit gets made into a series but we'll never see new Firefly or Frisky Dingo?
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>>82000458
Rape and death intrigues people. It's no surprise that the show is popular and will continue to be no matter how dumb the plot and characters are.

You could probably write a semi dramatic movie about a person who plays the tuba with their butt for gas money, and if you include a scene where they get raped, you'll make money hand over fist.
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Netflix has way too much money now.

They are shitting out all these awful shows with total abandon. There's no fucking quality control at all.
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>>81990960
>not owning a frostless freezer
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>>81958944
Belle the jour, though she is still nice to look at
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>>81953657
>>13 reasons why I must blame on others for my own failures
Kek, exactly what I was thinking 10 minutes ago. Just watched the first episode of this show.

First off, I think suicide is extremely stupid, but I feel sympahy for them anyway. But if someone who took their own life made these shitty tapes, then I'm quite sure I would stop feeling bad for their death. Seriously, really fucking stupid making "blame tapes" like this.
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>>82001355
This. I feel like you could stop playing the first tape after 5 minutes and just say "mystery solved, she did it for attention." There's no need to listen to ALL of that whiny shit.
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>>81998855
that's bullshit and you know it
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>>82000625
Reminds me of how everyone talked about that rape scene in Irreversible for about a fucking decade even though it was tame as shit and the movie itself was only about a 6, 6.5 at best.

Same with the baby rape scene in Polish Film.
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>>81999905
/tv/ truly is a /pol/ outpost.
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>>82001599
>Same with the baby rape scene in Polish Film.

Huh?
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The one interesting thing the show attempted was Jason's catch 22. He was fucked regardless of what he did, whether he stopped Bryce from touching his gf, turned Bryce into to the police or lied about it he tried to play his cards right and stop it from ruining the few positive relationships he had.

Also why did she not do jack shit while Bryce raped her friend, I get why Jason didn't because he can't do shit to Bryce without getting fucked himself but she had nothing to lose at that point. She flips out at Sheri not immediately calling the police about the sign minutes later just fine. (r.i.p Jeff to pure for this shitshow).
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>>81954959
>this show is like you're waifu. A shit.
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>>81963004
I'd tell you to kys but you obviously don't know how to lamo
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>>81963004
Good lord you fucking idiots - you go vertical to hit the artery, not the veins.

Go to heck
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>>82000458
Frisky Dingo is called Archer now
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>>81974887
So what? Women bleed every month how is this different?
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>>82002790

I really am happy that it has a spiritual successor. Just a shame fans in both camps are divided, I think one fed the other and they are both great.

Also, Mr. Ford, that crack whore Simone and a few together references made it into Archer.

I showed it to my girlfriend after I showed her Archer so she could see the themes that carried over.

Now to show her Sealab 2021 so she can see the bottom of the rabbit hole.
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Watching episode 2.

There's a really really cool guy in this really cool car who drives around and he is everywhere always. Really cool, he is.
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Closed it after watching half of the first episode...

Why did netflix give this 99% match for me?
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>>82004140
because you should kill yourself
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LMFAO, she is mad because they like her ass
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just binged the first 3 minutes of episode 2. don't people in this town understand the concept of privacy? or does Clay's mom want to catch him jerking off?

is she his step-mom?
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Hannah gets a haircut and thinks shes starting fresh. Am I watching a fucking Anime?
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>>81989019
Dude, she was motionless while he was fucking her even if she didn't say she wanted to go home I still wouldn't keeping fucking her if she's just like a limp body.
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these credits are so dense, there's so many layers going on. it's like pottery, it's coarse and it gets everywhere.
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Tony was the only intriguing character
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>>81978577
> had a family member kill themselves

chad stop raping girls in the tub already
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>>81985334
13 reasons, Benis?
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>>82006171
I loved gay fonzie.

I just he had more time on screen that wasn't Clay giving him shit for no reason.
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>>81957172
You tell me.
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I just finished this shit show. The guy who suggested i watch it compared it to Twin Peaks. I don't think I'll hang out with that dude anymore.
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Who /jessica/ here?
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im on the 4th ep and its so fucking corny

idk if its cause i went to highschool in leafland but everyone was so apathetic that no one ever got bullied unless you went out of your way to be a fucking retard
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>>81995396
what music is good from that period?

i heard smiths, is there something like that more?

also

>babby's first hipster kit

i want to find some good music
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>>82006574
Kat is best girl and she got too little screentime
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>"Love Will Tear Us Apart" by Joy Division
>"The Killing Moon" by Echo & the Bunnymen

Donnie Darko or 13 Reasons Why? 97% of Americans Get This Wrong!
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Literally every conversation Hannah the fat cunt has with Clay the Gay is either exchanging sarcasm, or her making fun of him, and him being a beta fuckboy who takes it.
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>>82006772
That's because if she stayed the story would.not have happened.
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He should give the recordings to her mother. It's just that simple really.
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>>82006668
>everyone was so apathetic that no one ever got bullied

the old media just CANT deal with the new post-structure world where jocks become fucking weirdos watching anime, fat guys smoke weed, pretty girls are depressed and god knows what else.

they really need the old system of - jock, nerd, stacey, artsy girl or boy. breakfast club, except it's bad. sad!
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>mfw Marcus' BBC could've saved her life.
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This show has the most unrealistic depictions of teenagers I've ever seen. They all act 15 years older than their ages. That one chick with neck tattoos and a face full of metal lol.
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>>82007683
what parent would allow his daughter to have so many tattoos by the age of 17?
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>>82007546
captain of the hockey team got a bunch of guys into d&d and everyone played CoD and gmod together

fucking retarded show still has photography clubs and not digital imaging
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVUlhi8pe0c
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>>82007756

>fucking retarded show still has photography clubs and not digital imaging

how unrealistic.
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