>Promoting mental illnesses as normal >"Science" Guy

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>food analogy
every time

>>81940109
>asian, white, black, and green?

>>81940109
which mental illness?

>>81940109
You just are brainwashed by the Republicans and their crony lobbyists for the bathroom male/female sign industry

>>81940439

That's right. Keep giving them an inch, cuck

>>81940434
>>81940439
something like 41% of trans commits suicide or attempts before and after transformation. Clearly, we are handling things the wrong way or we are classifying them wrong
>source?
literally everywhere, including liberal websites

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Oh god, did Nyddler's awful show actually try to push this shit?

>>81940529
I'm asking what mental illness is this science guy promoting as normal

>>81940434
Homosexuality, transgenderism, etc...

>>81940564
Ok, fair enough

>hey kids, member me from 15 years ago? Well we need to have a serious talk. And you need to recycle more, be more conscious of what you use and what you throw, and some tips to help keep your carbon footprint low
>"wow, thanks Bill Nye"
>don't mention it millenials! Look at my zany bow tie!!! Oh by the way there is hundreds of genders not just male and female, make sure to never use he/her or his/hers any longer
>credits roll

>>81940529
don't forget most suicides are caused by undiagnosed mental illness.
>Gender dysphoria is not a meme

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WHO /GROWNUPKID/ HERE!!?!??! I LOVE STAR WARS AND SCIENCE!!

>Vanilla confirmed for least degenerate flavor

Feels good. Eat shit, chocolate fags.

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>>81940785
Oh god.

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>>81940895
WHERE ARE YOU GOING????

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>>81940911
>there are people who talk like this outside of Reddit.

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MISTER NYE THIS SCIENCE TASTES FUNNY

>>81940785
>>81940911
>>81941122

Embarrassing. This is catering to the most obnoxious millenials

>mentally ill sterilize and then kill themselves
Aren't they doing human genetics a favour?

>Kid get dick chopped off and fed a shit ton of hormones before even hits puberty
>"HOW DARE YOU QUESTION HER CHOICE! Don't you even dare insulate that this is the work of her overbearing parents!"
>Kid goes to conversion therapy
>"THIS IS THE MOST UNNATURAL THING IN HUMAN HISTORY. No one would willingly do this, they are being pressured by their family!"

if men can identify as women why can gays identify as straight?

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>>81941216
Don't ask too many questions, goyim.

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>>81940336

>>81941196
Literally everything on Jewflix is. I can't imagine actually paying money for that garbage.

>>81941295
>imagine being at computers so fat you look and see food

>>81940571
Okay let's debate this
Homosexuality is a wide phenomenon. It has many causes. Female homosexuality is not the same as the male homosexuality.
My opinion on this one is sometimes it could be a mental illness. Sometimes it is just a result of our genetic predisposition. Some times (even more on this time) it is just indoctrinated, you could say it has become a trend and this one is neither here or there, it more of a social driven behavior.

On the issue of trans people, its hard you know. Because what makes someone trans? It's really hard to say if this is an illness. Most trans people have a mental illness of some kind, that's evident.
This last one is more complicated, but again it is now more than ever being indoctrinated into the society. I don't think this case is a mental illness.
It's not all black and white. There are many causes for mental illness and many causes for homosexuality and transgenders, sometimes these two meet and sometimes they don't.

I get you guys, I really do. I also dislike trans people. But I think we should stop fighting them with the same braindead logic they use. Instead of trying to disprove them we could try to learn and arrive at the actual truth.

Here's another example:

If I told this Bill guy: "Hey this is today's percentage of co2 in the atmosphere" do you think he would try to research why that could or could not lead to an issue, or even try to erase my doubts about this particular spec on the climate issue? He would more likely call me stupid instead of engaging in a debate where we would actually arrive to a conclusion about how climate change will affect us.

>>81940109
Didn't watch the show but I'm not surprised. This is basically the sole purpose and goal of Bojack Horseman.

Why the fuck does Netflix want to normalize depression? It is raw evil thing to convince a society that being depressed is normal and not the result of outside forces.

>>81941216
Except that's not how transgender treatment goes.

>>81941366
Homosexuality and gender dysphoria are largely patholigal behaviours brought on by enviromental factors (abuse, molestation, weak fathers, etc...)

>>81941467
That's just outright false.

>>81941590
Wanna bet?
http://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/preface-sexuality-and-gender

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>>81940911
wtf he's in this????

>>81941366
lol wow I cringed at your post. Nice troll.

>>81941467
You missed the whole point of the post.

I want actual facts. We should use those facts to determine the truth. Instead of trying to find facts that accommodate the truth we are most comfortable with.

I have no doubt gender dysphoria can be brought on by for example, abuse because I have seen examples of such.
But what about homosexuality? I haven't seen those be caused by abuse. (that doesnt mean I dont believe it can be caused by outside factors)


>>81941590 I swear its true some people can be so fucked up in the head that they think they are dead, or gods or animals, why couldnt it happen with genders?

>>81940911
>going after creationists
Doesn't a creationist just believe that the universe was created by an abstract entity? How is that something you could ever disprove, let alone be smug about?

>>81941701
You have to go back newbitch.

>>81941696
you probably misunderstood the post
and if you got offended then you have some issues because I was actively trying to make that post as neutral as possible
I dont have a way with words, and I dont speak english either. I'm sorry you cringed

>>81941739
>Doesn't a creationist just believe that the universe was created by an abstract entity?
not quite

>>81941776
>a person who believes that the universe and living organisms originate from specific acts of divine creation, as in the biblical account.
This was the first result on google.

>>81941761
why exactly? because I dont accomodate your circlejerk of hate against different opinions?
you should state why you disagree and then provide another point of view and if you can, some facts to back it up

>>81941839
ur reddit n need to fuck off newbitch

>>81941646
>Microsoft OLE DB Provider for SQL Server error '80004005'
I get some server error. Got another link?

>>81941701
There are people who get sexually confused after being raped. That doesn't mean they turned gay. Nor does lack of fathers or mothers have anything to do with sexual orientation. We have lot more of straight people who were raised by single mothers or fathers than gays raised by single parents.

>>81941739
You can be smug about the fact that they're all really stupid and believe in magic

>>81941911
THIS

also there are 64 genders

being a tranny is a mental illness 100%, its a identity disorder that is becoming normalized because bleeding hearts feel the need to accept these people for "who they are"

when in reality they don't know who they are and its why they commit suicide at such a high rate, because they cut off their dick or do insane amounts of damage to their body with hormones and it doesn't actually change anything about them and they realize they have made a huge mistake, and this shit gets enabled.

this is basically like telling the schizophrenic that yes dragons really are chasing him and its not all in his head, society does this to these people, they let them do this then cry about how "sad" it is.

the funny thing is that even gay people largely dislike trannies because they realize they have a mental illness and most trannies are psychopaths because of it, with hormones all out of wack and just everything about them is chaos

>>81941879
reddit does the exact same thing as you do:
"I dont like this, here is an article that doesn't prove anything but it agrees with me and it used the scientific method so I cant be wrong"
the difference is, you bash on the things they praise

>>81941765
You're fine esl bro. He was just b8ing.

I agree with most your points but my problem arises when the media clearly pushes an agenda revolving around these issues via virtue signaling or other disingenuine methods. Though that is not necessarily bad, what happens often is media romanticizes and embellishes the Idea of positions like trans when very real problems can arise from mistreating the issue properly. see >>81940529

In other words, prioritize well-being over politics

>>81941815
creationists believe the earth was created a few thousand years ago instead of billions of years ago

so basically dinosaurs aren't real and science is fake

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>this thread

>>81941911
Atheists believe in abiogenesis, an unprovable multiverse, and the simulation hypothesis.

Atheists are the most credulous faggots on the planet.

>>81942040
The only common thing all atheists agree on is that there is no God. That's literally the meaning of atheists.

>>81941988
Both leading creationist organizations say dinosaurs are real.

And most science is fake.

https://www.firstthings.com/article/2016/05/scientific-regress

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>>81940911
This kind of mindset is what inspired the fedora meme in the first place

Giving kids and adults hormones that fuck them over for life, performing irreversible gender surgery and mentally confusing young adults into thinking heterosexuality isn't normal is the equivalent of lobotomy and chemical castration/sterilization that wa performed at the turn of the century.

The road to hell is paced with good intentions.

>>81942040
Abiogenesis is logical, life is comprised of the same fundamental particles as everything else. Just because we haven't yet found the exact mechanism by which it happened doesn't mean it didn't, and it certainly doesn't mean it was actually magic. People like you are generally just too stupid to appreciate massive timescales.

>an unprovable multiverse, and the simulation hypothesis.

No, they just don't claim to know. What's certain is that magic isn't real, and there isn't a magical ghost living inside of you that magically floats away after you die.

>>81941893
>There are people who get sexually confused after being raped. That doesn't mean they turned gay.
I know that. I agree. I said some people had gender dysphoria after repeated abuse, not all of them.
>Nor does lack of fathers or mothers have anything to do with sexual orientation.
I dont know about this one. I'm not saying its wrong, I just have some doubts about these issues because some homosexuality percentages get higher when that particular thing happens. I would like someone to prove or disprove this to me.
>We have lot more of straight people who were raised by single mothers or fathers than gays raised by single parents.
I still dont know. I think we need more info on this issue

>>81942118
>What's certain is that magic isn't real, and there isn't a magical ghost living inside of you that magically floats away after you die.

Is that really certain le reddit? Where does our consciousness come from?

>>81942118
>Abiogenesis is logical

Life arising naturally from non-life isn't by any means logical.

>Just because we haven't yet found the exact mechanism by which it happened doesn't mean it didn't

Ah, atheism of the gaps.

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If you disagree with this then you are ANTI-SCIENCE

>>81942172
>Life arising naturally from non-life isn't by any means logical.

Of course it's logical, life and non-life are made of the same things. Scientists have produced organic compounds in labs using conditions similar to those present on early Earth. You're wrong and stupid and on top of that you think you aren't making you truly the scum of the earth.

>Ah, atheism of the gaps.

That's not "atheism of the gaps," that's something called logical inference. Given the available information, by far the most likely explanation is that life came from non-life. We already know that complex life came from very simple life, so it stands to reason that very simple life came from something simpler. Additionally, morons like you have existed throughout all of history, explaining things with "magic did it." Guess what the actual answer has never been, not even once?

>>81942170
not that guy but
bottom line is it isnt known exactly
I speculate that is comes from the interaction of the billion of neurons in our brains, not all of them though.
but the bottom line is that it hasnt been pin pointed

>>81942170
You're just a brain, in your case, one that doesn't work very well.

>>81941400
>It is raw evil thing to convince a society that being depressed is normal and not the result of outside forces
But trans people feel happy once they fully transitioned. The depression more so comes from the social stigma and people hating them.

>>81942292
Yep that's more or less my point since le reddit said
>one thing is certain
like an indoctrinated cuck

http://www.sciencealert.com/a-man-who-lives-without-90-of-his-brain-is-challenging-our-understanding-of-consciousness

>>81942273

>Scientists have produced organic compounds in labs using conditions similar to those present on early Earth

So life can arise when intelligently designed to do so? There's a difference between doing something deliberatly in a lab and something maybe happening by accident under conditions we can only speculate about.

>Of course it's logical, life and non-life are made of the same things

There's more to it than that, champ.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/995875-prominent-chemist-says-scientists-dont-really-understand-evolution/

>“I will tell you as a scientist and a synthetic chemist, if anybody should be able to understand evolution, it is me, because I make molecules for a living, and I don’t just buy a kit, and mix this and mix this, and get that. I mean, ab initio, I make molecules. I understand how hard it is to make molecules.

>“I don’t understand evolution, and I will confess that to you. Is it OK, for me to say, ‘I don’t understand this’? Is that all right? I know that there’s a lot of people out there that don’t understand anything about organic synthesis, but they understand evolution. I understand a lot about making molecules; I don’t understand evolution. And you would just say that, wow, I must be really unusual.

>“Let me tell you what goes on in the back rooms of science—with National Academy members, with Nobel Prize winners. I have sat with them, and when I get them alone, not in public—because it’s a scary thing, if you say what I just said—I say, ‘Do you understand all of this, where all of this came from, and how this happens?’ Every time that I have sat with people who are synthetic chemists, who understand this, they go, ‘Uh-uh. Nope.’ … And if they’re afraid to say ‘Yes,’ they say nothing. They just stare at me, because they can’t sincerely do it.”

>>81941815
the biblical account is not just a general story of deism

>>81942402
Holy fuck you're dumb. Scientists reproduced the natural conditions in early earth, that doesn't mean it takes intelligence to create the conditions. You're like fucking chimps, I hate religious people.

>>81942121
Well, if there are so many straight people who were/ are being raised by a single parent of same sex parents, wouldn't that then mean there is no correlation between these factors and being homosexual? Having a lot of outliers means the hypothesis isn't correct.

>>81940911
>the image says nothing about religion
>christianity can be compatible with evolution
>asspained christcucks still mad af

topkek

>>81942402
>Don't really understand evolution

You're a moron. If what this retard is saying is to be taken to heart, i'm going to go ahead and ask you if you REALLY understand creationism. No, don't tell me what it is, tell me if you REALLY know how it came to be?

Thats right. You can't. Checkmate. Me right. Me smart. Big brain. Honk honk.

>>81942450
>Scientists reproduced the natural conditions in early earth

Impressive, considering they've never seen early earth. You also have yet to explain how scientists deliberalty creating life proves natural abiogenesis.

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>You could make a show that actually focuses on science and explaining why people have conflicting viewpoints

>Instead you just make a masturbation show based on your opinions

>>81942653
It doesn't prove it you dim cunt, it provides compelling evidence that it can happen. It's also the only plausible or likely explanation, since magical fairies aren't real.

>>81942713
It proves that it can happen in a lab under controlled conditions, but actual scientists have no idea what how it's possible in nature, see:
>>81942402

>>81942340
>But trans people feel happy once they fully transitioned

Then why do 40% of them kill themselves after transitioning?

>The depression more so comes from the social stigma and people hating them.

Odd, since their suicide rates are still abnormally high in liberal countries like Sweden and Holland.

>>81942713
>>81942450
>>81942324
>>81942118
The 15 year old reddit oozing out of these posts. Man you've become so wise since you stopped watching Saturday morning cartoons 3 years ago.

>"I'm the normal one because I feel like it!"
no, the normal gender is the one that leads to reproduction. literally the goal of all speices.
wtf I hate Bill nye now.
I watched the first 4 episodes before seeing one about gender and watched it. it turned into all liberal politics and no science. no shit people are gay and identify as retarded things. how about you explain how it is biologically wrong for a species to evolve into not wanting to reproduce. wtf bill. litteraly what did this episode have to do with science?

>>81942500
not exactly, maybe its a sum of events and single parents is just one of those. I only say this because I've heard the percentage of homos is higher in those cases, even if there are many exceptions

>>81943003
>biologically wrong

You are a fucking moron. Biology is not a moral compass you halfwit.

>>81942931

What does that make the religious people who think magical fairies are real?

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>>81941927

Like the 64 squares on a chess board. Masons gender swap their kids with hormones and surgery. The LGBT movement is so they can be more open about these things, that walk amongst us, pretending to be something they are not. Literally They Live!

>>81941988
That's only one specific type of creationist though.
What if someone were to believe that the big bang was intentionally created by a divine being?

>>81940529
>abominations kill themselves
>if they don't they end up sterilizing themselves through their surgery or hormone treatments
>this is a bad thing

I thought evolution was accepted now

>>81942097
This. I bet anything in 10-20 years it'll be a giant controversy, with kids suing their parents for 'encouraging' them to cut off their cock, documetari ex telling us how barbaric it is, etc

>>81943055
Nice Reddit spacing, reddit

>>81943003
>biologically wrong

Actually, homosexuality is an adaptation for population control and same-sex bonding.

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>>81940571
>the homosexuality is an illness meme from 50 years ago
We still on this?

>>81940670
You sound upset.

>>81943157
they're not 'creationists' as the word is used, but are convinced by some version or other of the first cause argument
The word creation is probably what's getting you here. Intelligent Design is more like the umbrella term for the theory the universe was created.

>>81940109
So, is "not /pol/" just going to spam this fucking show every hour on the hour now? This board needs to die, seriously. Nothing is a discussion or fun anymore. It's just the same tireless "who's triggered again today" shit over and over. You'd think having your own /pol/ board was enough...but no...

>>81943534
My theory that 4chan has become so Republican/conservative lately is because the internet became more available and affordable in rural areas, where they still teach the Bible in public schools.

>>81943534
The only reason it isn't considered an illness any more is because a bunch of faggots rigged the votes at the APA convention in the 70's.

>>81943471
>Source: Your ass

>>81943659
>everything I don't like is rigged

Tell me how homosexuality is an illness.

https://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/item/11640-former-apa-president-says-homosexuals-can-change

>Cummings said some homosexuals leave their lifestyle and return, much like “falling off the wagon” in a manner similar to an alcoholic or drug addict. But “there are successes.”

>Cummings said an APA committee that considered the possibility of successful reparative therapy would not permit supporters of that therapy on the committee. “[T]his kind of bias prevails in the APA all under the scientific aura,” he said. “[T]he APA has become a monolith. ...The APA has become politically correct. Political correctness rules not science.”

>>81941946
I don't understand how it is skin off your bones to just treat them respectfully like fucking people. Certainly better than shaming them or calling them degenerate. You just sound angry.

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>>81942087
>And most science is fake.
Wew. Literally no hope for America. We deserve every nuke.

Gender identity is pretty much a faith based religion. You FEEL something but you can't prove it? Bam, you're 100% correct.

>>81941946
Transgenderism is a disorder, not a mental illness. Trannies' brains not matching their bodies is real, as in biologically true. This itself doesn't cause mental problems, it's the symptoms such as dysphoria, anxiety, and depression that causes mental problems. Cross sex hormone treatment works and significantly reduces suicide rate. This meme that Republicans are pushing that it doesn't work has been proven to be false.

>>81943738
>spout stupid shit with no scientific basis
>gets kicked out of the APA
>says APA is unscientific like a sore loser

wew lad

>>81942249
This show is just politics isnt it?

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>>81943837
Are we able to do brain transplants yet? If so why not just transplant the brain of a male with a female brain into the head of female with a male brain and vice versa.
Problem solved, right?

>>81943659
>muh tinfoil.
Just like climate change too?

>>81943653
This actually explains a lot.

>>81943837
Watch out anon! You are gonna get a lot of triggered posts or image macros or even, dare I say, youtube documentaries.

>>81943837
>trannies' brains not matching their bodies is real
no it isn't
>Cross sex hormone treatment works and significantly reduces suicide rate.
Suicide rate increases after transition

>>81943998
We can't do brain transplants yet. Also, the cross sex hormone treatment is the best that we have so far but it's not perfect. They're still trying to improve on the treatment.

>>81944044
>>81943653
Science is the backbone of the Democrat Party.

If you are right wing, you are ANTI-SCIENCE

>>81944111
>no it isn't
Woah, great argument. You really showed him.
>Suicide rate increases after transition
This is literally not true.

>>81944133
i used to think that was true

>>81944116
The first official head transplant is happening either the end of this year, to beginning of 2018. If anyone is interested in a conversation with substance here..

>>81943534

Homosexuality was removed from DSM under lobbying-pressure, not scientific advancement.

There's also the fact that it's a literal behavioral compulsion affecting 3% of the population maximum, and compels them not to breed.
Far more innocuous things are considered "disorders".

Inb4 20 triggered indoctrinated PC drones calling me a "redneck" or some other ad hom nonsense.

>>81944164
>entire GOP lobbies literal billions to discredit climate change science for the explicit purpose of limiting competition in the energy market
Yes, it is true.

>>81940402
(((Reptilians)))

>>81944180
Not making babies isn't a disorder. There are straight people who don't want babies while there are gays who want babies.

>>81942249
>female comedian
>encouraging abortion is empowering women
Is this the power of science?

>>81944180
But what if you breed and have a wife but secretly masturbate to trap hentai?

>>81943837

>Trannies' brains not matching their bodies is real, as in biologically true.

It literally isn't. The fact you believe this myth shows you aren't educated enough to be taken seriously on this topic.

Literally no scientific organizations, not even the ones that DO perform sex-change operations (which is fewer and fewer, as more and more organizations are coming to the realization that it's a barbaric and grotesque practice based on junk science), believes that self-identified trannies are "women born in male bodies".

It's New Age bullshit and you're a useful idiot for thinking otherwise.

>>81944180
I wouldn't worry too much about it, it's only your biases that make it seem like a significant issue. For example, religiosity should certainly be considered a mental illness. It isn't because of political correctness.

>>81944180
>removed from DSM under lobbying-pressure, not scientific advancement.
Who keeps parading this dumb fucking meme around? It is literally not true, kiddo.
>inb4 20 triggered indoctrinated PC drones calling me a "redneck" or some other ad hom nonsense
Well, I will tell you that you are pretty stupid if you believe that. Since it is 100 percent factually wrong.
>inb4 you spend ten posts citing one conservative """"psychologist""" who just so happens to be some sort of anti-gay religious faggot

>>81941467
>patholigal

>>81944240

>There are straight people who don't want babies

You realize I said "compulsion", not "choice", right?
Or is your average lefty shit becoming illiterate too?

>>81944260
>It's New Age bullshit
>because I don't like it and it makes me icky icky poo poo
There, fixed

>>81944178
>it's real

Jesus Christ, I can't imagine how that guy must be feeling now.

>>81943837

>Trannies' brains not matching their bodies is real, as in biologically true.

It literally isn't.

>>81944315
Yeah, I wasn't memeing about that lol

>>81944300
There's nothing stopping from gay people procreating with people of the opposite sex.

what if i dont give a fuck about social issues but i just want to pay lower taxes and defund useless government programs

>>81944311
Damn great argument, really activates my almonds

>>81944262

>shoving your dick up another man's shitter before chopping your cock off and calling yourself "Barbara" isn't a "mental illness"
>believing in God is a "mental illness"

This is why you Marxist faggots can never seem to win actual support with the populous that isn't indoctrinated cucks.

>being so stupid you don't realize homosexuality is probably caused by a gene that bestows advantages to the individual and relative's survival rate
Oh ignorant child.

>>81944349
I guarantee that half of the problem with your brainlets is how you personally feel about trannies, not because of the science you don't bother to understand past a layman's familiarity.

>>81944311

Actually it's New Age bullshit because it's literally made up by scientifically-illiterate libtards who want to feel more justified about Johnny's progressive parents injecting him with Estrogen.

>>81944180
Homosexuality was included in DSM under lobbying-pressure, not scientific advancement.

>>81944396
>IT'S DA LIBTARDS FAULT!
and we are done here.

>>81944364
You were abused by your parents into believing there's a magical wizard with a beard who created the universe and wants you go to church to worship him.

>all those assumptions

Back to /pol/ low IQ simpleton

>>81944389

>projecting

Do you tranny-cheerleaders have any actual arguments? Or is it all junk-science, ad-hom bullshit and projection?

Or maybe you're having trouble making logical arguments due to all that Estrogen you shot up floating around in your brain.

>>81944420

It literally is Libtard's fault and their retarded anti-science rhetoric.

I'm sorry that fact makes you mad.

>>81944325
>>81944260
http://search.proquest.com/openview/6b2c9d952aea5f05127ce4033fdb652a/1?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=40569
https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article-lookup/doi/10.1210/jcem.85.5.6564

Here's just a couple of studies regarding transgender people's brains.

The American Academy of Pediatrics and the Endocrine Society supports transgender people.

>which is fewer and fewer, as more and more organizations are coming to the realization that it's a barbaric and grotesque practice based on junk science

I don't know where you got this from. Link your news source please.

Psychology is mostly psuedoscience anyway due to not many experiments being repeatable.

Psychiatry is better in everyway.

>>81944461
>complains about liberals being anti-science
>over 40% of Americans are young earth creationists

>>81944364
Guys shove their dicks up girls' shitters because it's tighter than vaginas. Some straight guys like getting pegged or ass played with. Anal isn't strictly a gay thing.

>>81944431
I'm not even a trannie you hotheaded faggot. Why do you even need to give boogeyman trannies you think you talk to online your two cents? What positive influence would spouting off insults to people you've never met, actually achieve? You feel compelled to tell off trannies? Were you like, raped by one or something?

I just can't imagine why you would need to go out of your way to make them feel bad. Is it autism? Help me, help you anon

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ITT PC-drones getting triggered.

I haven't seen /tv/ this filled with non-arguments and angry fucking ad-homs since the fucking Election Night results.

>>81944461
>facts
Kek, whatever you say friendo. I'm sure climate change is just a meme devised by "Big Green" and evolution is a ploy by the devil.

>>81944502

>What positive influence would spouting off insults to people you've never met, actually achieve?

Oh the fucking irony.

Look at this fucking thread, you SJW zealot.

>>81944462
>Mental illnesses are caused by the damaged brain
what a surprise

>>81944521
You ever considered...that it might be you?

>>81944521
>can't argue back so he resorts to insults instead
>brings up the election again since that's the only thing they can brag about

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>>81944545
The difference is that you're a bad person. You deserve to be insulted and far worse than that.

>calling people SJWs because they aren't boot-licking anti-science fascists who argue with their feelings

>>81944502

>You feel compelled to tell off trannies? Were you like, raped by one or something?

It's almost like there's a debate ITT about trannies, so people are having an argument.

I think the real question is why you get nuclear-level triggered by trannies being subjected to skepticism and criticism.
Maybe you should calm down and be a little bit less anti-thought and anti-free speech.

why are trannies such a hot topic when ive only even seen a handful of them irl. they're barely even real

>>81944545
>thread /pol/ bait to trigger retards to spam about transgenders
>literally the tenth Bill Nye thread over the last 6 hours
>anons fucking sperging out about liberal media and "liberal science"
Yeah, I'm looking at it all right. Your point?

>>81940911
the only think i fucking love more than science is skyrim

or is it fallout 4 now

>>81944535

>Kek, whatever you say friendo.

You literally believe a man turns into a woman if he chops his dick off and puts on a dress.

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I'm so fucking sick of white fragility.

>>81944554
Where does it say that?

>>81944573

>The difference is that you're a bad person.

Oh look, an angry SJW zealot moralizing. What a shock.

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>>81944589
I'm not triggered, but telling trannies "YOU DEGENERATE AND MENTALL ILL REEEEE KILL YOURSELF", is hadly constructive
>I can mask my destructive behavior under the guise of free speech, I'm just speaking my mind amirite? ;) teehee trannies are mentally ill subhumans, woah man. I'm just like, using free speech right? Don't be so triggered guy!
>BUT HOLY SHIT, LIBERLS PRESSURED THE DSM TO GET HOMOSEXUALITY REMOVED FROM DSM AND TRANNIES ARE HORRIBLE MONSTERS!
>hey man, I'm just having a debate.
>why are you so triggered?
>(makes this thread)

>>81944607
Quote me, kid.

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>>81944521
Makes me glad, they really have learned absolutely nothing since then.

They are going to be losers forever.

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Daily reminder that SJW's created a program to indoctrinate impressionable young children in Australia's school-systems into this bullshit about trannies and transgender nonsense, and it literally destroyed the lives of dozens of children.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/rendezview/an-epidemic-of-transgender-children-is-safe-schools-legacy/news-story/085d5681f6bc3dae2357302ab2bee227

It only got dropped after two years of horrific results, and only AFTER countless incidents of self-destructive behavior that children will be suffering the effects from for the rest of their lives.

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>beautiful white male baby is born
>it comes into this world red faced and squealing
>infant baby accidentally picks up a PINK toy
>two gay lesbian parents chop the young male child's penis off
>pumps it full of hormones
>brainwashes it into thinking it's a little sissy girl
>at the age of 13, the little girl commits suicide after being mentally, physically, emotionally and hormoncally raped by its leftwing parents

Um, no thank you.

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>>81940109

>>81944732
Never happened.

>>81944690

>I'm not triggered

You're literally blasting moralistic Tumblr shit on 4chan.

Considering how awful SJW's and their tranny pets are at handling ANY criticism, this is unsurprising.

>I can mask my destructive behavior under the guise of free speech
Holy shit you ARE a delusional with a victim-complex.
No wonder you cheerlead so hard for men who want to have Frankenstein tits sewed onto themselves. You fit right in with them.

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>>81944726
>daily telegraph
>this limited amount of self-awareness

>>81940911
Is that Artie Lange?

>>81942118
Believing in a totally unobvervable process is pretty much anti science. People used to believe that spontaneous generation was logical.

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>>81944774
>You're literally blasting moralistic Tumblr shit on 4chan.
More than one poster bud, sounds like you just fundamentally have issues with any dissenting opinion you don't share.
>considering how awful SJW's and their tranny pets are at handling ANY criticism, this is unsurprising.
You are literally doing the same fucking thing. You are a SJW, not able to handle criticism. Look in the mirror and realize how you are just as much of a faggot to me.
>Holy shit you ARE a delusional with a victim-complex
Projecting pretty hard aren't we?
>No wonder you cheerlead so hard for men who want to have Frankenstein tits sewed onto themselves
Kek, what?

It may be time to stop posting and go to bed.

>>81944462

These literally say or prove nothing about self-identifying tranny men ACTUALLY being women trapped in le wrong body.

>I don't know where you got this from.
https://www.mercatornet.com/articles/view/the-troubling-history-of-sex-change-surgery/16113

Considering these organizations make GIANT piles of cash for chopping off dicks, it means this shit is really, really fucking heinous for these money-grubbing institutions to be so disgusted by the practice that they drop it.

>>81942273
Someone post the duck and mouse.

>>81944781

Totally healthy and beautiful, right?

>>81944786

>dude it only happened if someone reputable like bill nye and netflix is talking about it

It literally happened. You can look it up in multiple places.

>>81940785
>grown up kids
he's not wrong

>>81942762
If a scientist created life from scratch on a lab I think we would have heard about it.

Give this post a (You) if the only time you are confronted with SJW stuff is when /pol/ brings it up and tells you to be upset about it.

>>81944893
There are hot trannies I would fuck, anon. I'd blow Bailey Jay if she'd ask.

>>81943055
Nobody mentioned fairies, what are you on about?

>>81944467

Honestly this.

Faggots don't really seem to understand that Psychology is a "social study", not a Hard Science, so they think some faggot in a tenured position saying that trans-racial otherkin soul-changing is a real thing means it's objective hard science like stars being made out of Hydrogen.

>>81944913
Or you can just cite credible sources.

>>81944932
What's more, life showed up on Earth really early in its existence, meaning that it's statistically way more likely that it either had help or that it came here from somewhere else.

>>81944968
Psychology is not a "social study" anon.
>what is clinical psych, cognitive psych, behavioral psych, research methods psych?

You are thinking of sociology.

>>81944935

Are you admitting that you don't leave your basement?

SJW shit is LITERALLY everywhere at this point. There was literally a massive shitstorm involving multiple massive corporations and nearly the entire populous because North Carolina didn't want to let 40-year-old men in drag piss next to little girls.

>>81945001
Ayyy lmao?

>>81943837

Yeah fine for consenting adults but if you are OK with five year old kids on hormones, like the Canadian government is, you're fucked in the head.

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>>81944868
This graph from one of the studies I linked compared the amount of BSTc neurons in the brains of straight males (M), gay males (HM), straight and gay females (F), and male-to-female transgenders (TM).

Also, the study makes it clear that "The sex hormone disorder patients S1, S2, S3, S5, S6, and M2 indicate that changes in sex hormone levels in adulthood do not change the neuron numbers of the BSTc." So male-to-female transgender people who start taking estrogen for their treatment won't change the amount of BTSc neurons in their brain.

The graph also shows that sexual orientation has no effect on the amount.

This study shows that MtF have the same amount as female brains. This shows significant biological basis about transgenderism.

Just a reminder that if you accept bullshit about trannyism not being a made-up concept, you also by proxy accept the countless piles of other shit that comes along with it.

It makes zero sense for trannies to be real but "non-binaries" to be made-up.
It makes zero sense for non-binaries to be real but not butch-facing demo-sexual gender-fluids.
It makes zero sense for butch-facing demo-sexual gender-fluids to be real but not pan-sexual otherkin demo-fluids that self-identify as helicopters.

Reminder that this isn't a one-step game.
If you legitimately think trannies are anything other than mentally ill, you accept the same for everything that comes with trannies, which trannies vocally support.

I hope you faggots are ready to shell-out for those bathrooms for people who identify as lizard-people and characters from My Little Pony.

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>>81945015
>SJW shit is LITERALLY everywhere at this point.
It really isn't outside of twitter, I see you /pol/fags bitch and moan far more often than I see SJWS. Then again, I'm not jumping at my shadow every ten goddamn seconds.
>a massive shitstorm involving multiple massive corporations and nearly the entire populous because North Carolina didn't want to let 40-year-old men in drag piss next to little girls.
Wew, lad. I love the hoops you need to go to register the bathroom bill this way. You ever consider that maybe, it is unconstitutional to regulate a public facility?

Really fires all neuroninos on all cylandaroos

>>81944262
I used to think similarly, but there are compelling legitimate reasons why religion is not in the DSM, though it is certainly common for delusions to have religious elements and to be recognised as such

I'll give two considerations, and one is how Religion fits into harmful-dysfunction models of mental illness as well as how delusions are defined and what properties they have to have to qualify. Since I can only talk about the former off the top of my head I'd recommend reading the literature surrounding it, such as Psychiatry in the Scientific Image by dominic murphy, which discusses both of those things.

The second consideration is a bit more heuristic. If you're looking to construct a framework of mental illness, but your framework captures the majority of the worlds population in the majority of history, your framework has to bite some large bullets or you have to question the inclusivity of it's criteria

>>81945060
>five year old kids on hormones, like the Canadian government

I googled for this and the one I found is this one: http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/transgender-children-getting-more-drug-hormone-treatments-1.1294699

There's no mention of 5 year olds getting hormones. All it says is that kids with extremely strong and consistent conviction they are the opposite gender are given counseling for a period of time then given PUBERTY BLOCKERS, not HORMONES, when they reach the age of puberty, like 12 years old, so they can have more time to confirm this conviction.

>>81945108
>I don't understand these issues
>muh slippery slope
>muh zero sum

>>81945080

>You see, these two brains have one vague similarity in one criteria. That means trannies are women that are magically born in the body of a man.

There are similar metrics that can show similarities between a human's brain and a dog's.
That doesn't mean Furries are now correct in their assertion that they have animal souls and were tragically born into a human's body.

There are also even stronger correlations in studies looking for correlations between prayer and faster recovery from injury.

This is blatant cherry-picking in the name of a desired goal. And the best anyone could put together was a vague attempt that only sort of agrees with their agenda.
And it says a lot when this study, cited by literally every SJW tranny-promoter ever, is the only one they can really ever cite.

A tranny will never be a woman and never was a woman.
You can bullshit about it all you want, but up is not down and straw is not gold, regardless of the existence or not of a study that says "well these couple examples of straw vaguely resemble gold in these very narrow constraints".

>>81945038
Maybe. Maybe just somewhere else where the conditions were way more favorable, and yes, maybe some higher power.

I was more mad that he said the creation of life came from a piece of Mars to earth when that theory is still considered crackpot shit in the scientific community.

>>81944854
What a moronic comparison. Kill yourself.

>>81945217
>A tranny will never be a woman and never was a woman.
You do not seem to understand the discussion...

>>81945117

>You ever consider that maybe, it is unconstitutional to regulate a public facility?

Public facilities are regulated all the fucking time you nig-nog.

It was literally a chimp-out over men in dresses being barred from pissing with little girls.
This isn't "hoop-jumping". You're just an indoctrinated PC-tard that thinks that shit is normal and acceptable and anything otherwise is le Nazi authoritarianism.

And yes, you're a basement-dweller if you're not seeing it in daily life.
It has saturated literally every higher education location in the west at this point.
But you're probably an SJW desperately pretending to be a """centrist""", so you probably see BLM cucks demanding more cop deaths and think "this is totally normal, politically-centered behavior".

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It's funny how thing are going in America.
60s - irrational lvl of racism, irrational lvl of homophobia, irrational lvl of xenophobia at all.
2010s - irrational lvl of tolleracy to all sorte of unnormal behavior whitch is just a reaction to irrational lvl of xenophobia in the past.

>>81945217
>vague similarity
It's not vague. And this is just one study. There are many other studies that compare transgender brains with cisgender brains. Sorry I don't have a folder of studies available so I can readily debate about transgenderism on a Chinese cartoon image board.

>>81945181

>then given PUBERTY BLOCKERS, not HORMONES

Oh thank God, that is totally natural and not fucked up at all.

Thank God they're injecting 5-year-olds with chemicals that fuck their biology up in the name of a delusion. At least it's not ACTUAL Estrogen!

>>81945080
>This shows significant biological basis about transgenderism.

And anyone who tests in that way is a legitimate case. I still don't think that applies to everyone who identifies as trans. If everyone claiming to be one on the internet took that test, would they be willing to abide by what the results showed?

In my opinion, that's where the real problem is - strident, self-loathing types with some degree of histrionic personality disorder muddying the waters and souring opinion against those who legitimately suffer from trans-genderism.

>>81945323
Puberty blockers are completely harmless. All it does it put puberty on pause. When puberty blockers are stopped, puberty resumes as normal. And again, IT'S NOT 5 YEAR OLDS THAT ARE GETTING PUBERTY BLOCKERS. THEY'RE NOT OLD ENOUGH TO GO THROUGH PUBERTY.

>>81945317

>It's not vague.

It's literally one aspect of the single most complicated topic in the history of biology.
And it only KIND OF correlates.

It's called "cherry-picking". This does literally NOTHING to prove the bullshit argument of "DEY WAS BORN IN DA RONG BODIES U BIGOT!!!!".

>>81945359

>All it does it put puberty on pause.

Yes, hormonal treatments that completely alter and outright prevent the human body's natural processes are completely fucking harmless and could never have any undesired consequences.

>>81945333
These are brain scans, not personality quizzes or internet IQ tests.

>>81945372
What correlation are you talking about? It literally shows that MtF have the same amount of BTSc neurons as cis women do. This amount can't be changed by taking estrogen, menopause, being gay, getting castrated, or getting AIDS.

>>81945413
It literally doesn't. The Endocrine Society approves of puberty blockers as harmless.

>>81941911
>>81942118
>>81941988
Who invited Reddit?

>>81942249
>"The best way to save science is to give your wife a bull!"

>>81944754
>denial

>>81945549
Name one time it did.

When did /tv/ turn into a tumblr reddit fusion?

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>>81945288
>ublic facilities are regulated all the fucking time you nig-nog.
No, not in the realm of prohibiting people from access. Supreme Court literally ruled that you can't do that.
>It was literally a chimp-out over men in dresses being barred from pissing with little girls.
You mean, the strawman that was used to fearmonger people like you about the 3 percent of the population that may (maybe) at one point in your life, share a public restroom with you? Yeah, sounds like a rational position and not just an appeal to emotion "whatabout da kids???"
>This isn't "hoop-jumping"
Yes, it is.
>You're just an indoctrinated PC-tard
Nice rational assessment there bud, tell me again how "I'm not triggered I-I swear!" SJWs like you are the worst. You don't even have self-awareness on how retarded you come off.
>that thinks that shit is normal and acceptable and anything otherwise is le Nazi authoritarianism.
I do not think it is acceptable to police public bathrooms, anon. I live in America, not North Korea. Maybe move there? Seems more in line with your strict conservative sensibilities. I'm sorry that most of us don't need Daddy gubment to tell trannies where to piss.
>And yes, you're a basement-dweller if you're not seeing it in daily life
Or, you just an an over exaggerating autist that goes out of his way to get mad at things?
>It has saturated literally every higher education location in the west at this point.
I have no clue what you think this even means.
>But you're probably an SJW desperately pretending to be a """centrist"""
I'm not the hothead writing paragraphs about how angry tranny bowl movements make me, kiddo.
>so you probably see BLM cucks demanding more cop deaths and think "this is totally normal, politically-centered behavior".
Kek, you need to calm down. Please understand how your own behavior is extremely similar to your own SJW meme.

You probably won't and will send me ten more posts though.
>I'm not t-triggered I swear!

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Modern "science" is basically the Medieval Catholic Church.
>disagree you are labelled anti-science and excommunicated
>only certain "scientists" have authority (Bill Nye, Black Science Man etc...) and are believed without question
>devoted redditors believe everything they say blindly and attack people who disagree with them in a fanatical rage
>getting "scientists" needless involed in politics and government
>enemies are seen as stupid and evil and must be destroyed
>if you come up with a theory that disagrees with the science status quo your labelled a science heretic and mocked until no one takes your ideas seriously or even considers them
>all this while pretending they're so much more enlightened and free thinking than those evil Christians
I fucking love science

>>81945576
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2043345/The-California-boy-11-undergoing-hormone-blocking-treatment.html

God forbid the last part of anon's greentext happens.

>>81945580
When /pol/ decided to stay longer than usual with their spill overs from r/the_donald

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Daily reminder that if you're a man, you will always be a man, and there's literally nothing you can do to change it. Or anyone else can do. Cutting your dick off and wearing a dress and shooting up Estrogen won't change that.

Literally every living cell in your body could be used in a laboratory to prove that you are a man. You will never, ever be an actual woman.
The best you can do is play pretend and force other people around you to play pretend with you.

This is one of the reasons so many trannies kill themselves.
If they don't accept this fact early on, it becomes undeniable later in life. And realizing that they have not only lied to themselves and literally everyone around them but also hideously mutilated themselves in horrific ways that have fucked them for life, the paint the interior of a car with their blood and brains, and then Liberals blame it on "le evul conservative Trump-supporting bullies".

You can't change reality. You can only deny it. And often that isn't enough, even for the delusional.

>>81945582
*bowel

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Well well well, /tv/. Look what appeared at the March for Science.

>it's a Bill Nye calls white males the enemies of science episode

>>81945580
Goonsquad

>>81945582

>Supreme Court literally ruled that you can't do that.

Well that makes it unconstitutional and wrong then.
The Supreme Court can't possibly be wrong.

>>81945591
>Modern "science" is basically the Medieval Catholic Church.
Stopped reading after that. There is just so much anti-intellectualism I can take without smashing my head against a wall.

>>81945615
So to summarize:
>no dick chopped
>boy keeps saying he's a girl, literally the first time he can say it with sign language
>don't get pumped full of hormones
>is given puberty blockers
>threatened his parents that he'll mutilate his genitals

Yeah, I can see how it totally happened when anon means the exact opposite of what he says.

>>81945582

>I do not think it is acceptable to police public bathrooms

You realize men caught in the women's bathroom are forcefully removed all the fucking time, right?

You literally just want that changed if they get caught while wearing a dress.

>>81945457

>doctors have never bullshat the public before

Remember when DDT was declared safe and they literally sprayed it all over children?
Remember when cigarettes were literally advertised with endorsements from doctors?

>>81945703
Why don't you offer an actual rebuttal then as to why their decision was wrong? Something other than your autistic fee fees? Otherwise, just stating that doesn't make it an argument. It's just being contrarian to be contrarian.
>they make mistakes sometimes! So -t-the decision w-was bad. Teehee
Kill yourself

>>81945582

>You mean, the strawman that was used to fearmonger people

Why are you lying? That's literally what male trannies are. Men in drag. That want to piss in the little girls' room. i.e. where little girls piss.

Literally zero of that is a "strawman".
Do you just hate facts?

>>81945774
>>81945725
>>81945582
>>81945457
>>81945359
>tfw /tv/ triggered a trans redditor by posting a picture of Bill Nye

Damn

>>81945693

You mean the second episode?

>>81945769
Well, if it gets proven to be harmful, then I'll eat my words. So far, lot of teenagers who thought they were trans and realized they're not stopped taking puberty blockers and resumed their puberty completely normally, just later than their peers.

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>>81945706
>The Pope can forgive sins only in the sense, that he declares and confirms what may be forgiven of God; or that he doth it in those cases which he hath reserved to himself; be this contemned, the sin remains unremitted
Stopped reading after that. There is just so much anti-papacy I can take without smashing my head against a wall

>>81945734
>You realize men caught in the women's bathroom are forcefully removed all the fucking time, right?
Not in most PUBLIC facilities, no
>You literally just want that changed if they get caught while wearing a dress.
You keep autistically simplifying it this way because we both know you don't have any legal argument on why transgenders shouldn't be allowed to use facilities of their choice. We both know your argument is just an emotional appeal. So why waste my time? You have nothing to offer.

>>81945822
I-I was just joking, does it actually happen?

Post proofs

>>81945811
That is literally what a strawman is.
>they want to piss in front of little girls!!! In drag!! REEEE!
Are you confused on what a strawman is?

>>81945853
>assuming emotional appeals are wrong
>using straw men to combat straw men

Wew

>>81941122
Is this actually real? I honestly didn't think he would go full SJW on the show.

>>81941122

Wait is that the guy from Veritasium?

>>81945774

Because there is nothing "unconstitutional" about saying "Only women are allowed in the female-only bathroom".

There, that was easy.

It wasn't even reversed because of that decision anyway.
It was reversed solely because the NCAA wanted to virtue-signal hard and pull out of the state because the idea of men pissing in a male bathroom and not the female bathroom scarred some CEO's sense of progressiveness so hard he threw a tantrum over it.

It's amazing how quickly progressives will suck the dicks of the "1%" they claim to hate so much as soon as those evil 1%ers start virtue-signaling.

>>81945882
>assuming emotional appeals are wrong
Yes, they are. They are not arguments.
>using straw men to combat straw men
Point to it, faggot.

>>81945855

Second episode a writer comes out and literally says shoot like "white people I love you but stop being stupid"

Give me a moment.

>>81945898
This, kek

>call people who don't believe in man made climate change anti science
>deny the existence of two genders

>>81945582

>only allowing women in the bathroom designated for women = "North Korea"

So let me get this straight:
You're claiming this and then turning around to also claim you AREN'T an SJW?

I really do hate faggots. Bunch of mindless hedonistic death worshippers. Their culture is disgusting and immoral. Not even christfagging, it's pure degeneracy

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>>81945888
If only you knew how bad it really is.

>>81945674
Except you're wrong. You're just trying to sound like you're speaking common sense when lot of things we know about the human body and brain doesn't make common sense. Like the fact that our throat is used for air and food, the latter which can get stuck in the trachea and cause pain. Or that kids get cancer. Or that women's urethra is very close to the vagina that they can easily get urinary tract infection. Or that some people aren't born with exactly 10 fingers and 10 toes.

You're also trying make it seem like science is supporting your claims when scientific research is what led to the discovery of transgenderism.

If you have any counter claims or evidences against transgenderism, post them, not this rhetorical bullshit.

>>81945903
They are parts of arguments, kiddo. It isn't all just unemotional.

>calling someone faggot while defending LGBT

Sounds like you slipped there. You need to relax

>>81945898
You literally have no clue what you are talking about or how these events occurred. Why do you want the government intrusively in your private life and tell you who can wnd cannot use a fucking public toilet due to which genitals they happen to have? It's silly, anon. Supreme Court made the ruling, you can't prohibit access to public facilities on the grounds of gender or sexual identity. It's over, kid. Sorry that you don't like freedom apparently

>>81945898
>CEO's sense of progressiveness
Fucking this. This whole SJW shit is a Corporate marketing tool

>>81945907

I can't take a screenshot of it on my phone reeeeeee

>>81945769
DDT is safe. Don't fall for the "DDT is worse than Hitler" meme.

>>81945967
Google gender dysphoria

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>>81940529

Or maybe telling a sexually confused 14 year old to cut off their dick might mess them up for life?

>>81945950
>everyone I disagree with is an SJW
It's a tiresome loop anon. You are just going to do this for any point or argument you don't like.

>>81946003
What about it? It's a symptom of being transgender.

>>81945992
It's alright, I believe you.

>tfw this thread got derailed by triggered redditors and tumblr SJWs and we won't get enough shitposting about the show

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>>81945972
Are you really going out of your way to defend emotional appeals just so you can win an argument?

Joly fuck, junior. You really are a faggot. That's lkke justifying being openly stupid about something just to double down on a point.

>>81945853

>Not in most PUBLIC facilities, no
Yes they fucking are.
Go hang out in the women's restroom for a while and see what fucking happens.

>You keep autistically simplifying it this way
I'm "autistically simplifying" nothing you titanic sperg. It's literally the liberal argument for tranny bathrooms. If it's incorrect then correct it. But you won't, because it's what you honestly believe: Men should be allowed to piss with little girls if they wear a dress and go by "Barbara" while doing it.

>you don't have any legal argument on why transgenders shouldn't be allowed to use facilities of their choice
Because they aren't women.
There, that was easy.

Do you have an actual legal argument, and not an emotional appeal, as to why a 63-year-old man in a dress should be allowed to use the women's restroom and not be removed, solely because he THINKS he's a woman?

No you don't. Because it always boils down to "it hurts their feeeeeeeeeeeelings!!!!! :( :( :(" with you faggots.

Keep autistically shrieking and using strawmen and Tumblr-arguments.
I'm sure it will earn you TONS of LGBBQXYZ allies.

>>81946040
And it was classified as a mental illness.

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>>81946020
>I'm not an SJW I just agree with all their views and support their movements
That means you ARE one buddy.

>>81946044
>deflect to "it's everyone else"
Get get off this board already and go back to /pol/, nobody ever wants you here.

>>81946066
>didn't even prove me wrong

I'm not even the same anon, I just stepped in to prove you wrong. But you still sound mad using words like that, lmao.

Stop slipping and get off of the internet, kiddo

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>>81945877

How is that a strawman?

Do you even know what a "strawman" is?

Are you denying that there are middle-aged men who desperately want to have legal protection to piss in the same bathroom little girls use?
Because you'd be wrong. That's literally what's happening.

>>81946080
There it is again.

>>81946091
>redditor pretending to be /tv/
>using the /pol/ boogeyman on someone who disagrees with you

Nice try kiddo, I've been here longer than you, heh....

>>81946076
Yeah, dysphoria is a mental illness. Not transgenderism, which is a condition that afflicts about 0.3% of the population. It's like having weak eye muscles, which causes bad eyesight. The treatment is glasses. For trannies, dysphoria is the bad eyesight and hormone treatment is the glasses.

>>81946091
This. I prefer reddit and tumblr shitting up my board instead.

>>81946116
>uses buzzwords but complains when people use them

Wew lad

>>81945978

>Supreme Court made the ruling, you can't prohibit access to public facilities on the grounds of gender or sexual identity.

So then why aren't all bathrooms tranny-friendly gender-neutral now?
"Male" and "Female" labeling is discrimination.

Also, men are routinely being "discriminated" against for using the female bathroom.
See: >>81946111

Also,
>SUPREME COURT SAID SO SO THEY ARE CORRECT
Kek, authority worship. You cucks are literally Dark Age catholic serfs.

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>>81946073
Anon, you deflected. The question is one of regulation, not of an argument for the absense of one...not for a negative.
I'll ask you again:

Do you have a legal basis for prohibiting select demographics of people, access to public (state or federally funded) facilities?

I'll wait. Just screeching about "MEN IN DRESSES!" Isn't a convincing rebuttal and I highly doubt you will convince the Supreme Court.

Answer the question or fuck off.

>>81946116
>haha geez why is everyone accusing me of having a ideology based on my actions and beliefs
>wow so illogical here they go again XD
Acceptance is the first step buddy

>>81945978

>You literally have no clue what you are talking about or how these events occurred.

Sounds more like you're a butthurt SJW resorting to historical-revisionism.

Do you have a personal stake in this?

Did a woman see your harry ass applying make-up in the women's restroom, and tell you that you "didn't belong there", getting you nice and triggered?

>>81946127
>the treatment for mental illness is to reinforce it
>the direct cause for a mental illness is just a symptom

>>81946111
>Are you denying that there are middle-aged men who desperately want to have legal protection to piss in the same bathroom little girls use?
I want you to guess how many cases of this are happening...

Also guess how many child molestations are happening both in public facilities AND by men in drag.

Go guess.

>>81946140
But I'm a /tv/ anon and I want them to stop shitting up our board and shit up /pol/ instead

>>81946103
If you also believe appeals to emotion are sound arguments, you are literally a retard.

Hormone treatment is like giving an alcoholic all the alcohol he wants.

>>81946020

If you honestly believe that only letting women use the bathrooms dedicated for women is "North Korean Authoritarianism", you are unironically an SJW.

If you can't see that, you are so deep in the SJW kool-aid that you've lost your sense of identity.

>>81946219
I didn't say they were sound arguments, kiddo. I said you can't deny them being components of arguments just because you don't like them.

LMAOing@your continued deflection and hypocrisy though. Very progressive of you calling people "retard" and "faggot"

>>81946168

>Do you have a legal basis for prohibiting select demographics of people, access to public (state or federally funded) facilities?

I love how you refer to men as a "select demographic", as if gender-segregated bathrooms were a fucking Jim Crow concept.

>>81946125
>boogeyman
Clearly you haven't seen this thread, or how this is not just a random spur of the moment thread about Bill Nye the triggering guy
>I have been here longer
An account on r/4chan doesn't count

>>81941739
>Doesn't a creationist just believe that the universe was created by an abstract entity?
no, they believe the earth was created by god 6000 years ago.

>it's a Reddit ruins a thread episode

>>81946203

>I want you to guess how many cases of this are happening...

As many cases as there are middle-aged trannies in existence.

>>81946199
Well, transgenderism isn't a mental illness much like weak eye muscles aren't a mental illness either.

>>81946216
>I'm a /tv/ anon but I only hate /pol/
>/pol/ is the problem not the constant SJW bait and BLACKED threads
Sure.

>>81946162
>it's authority worship to accept a Supreme Court ruling, the highest judiciary level in the country
>because I don't like trannies and so I don't like the ruling
You are getting desperate with these reaches

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>>81945582
>You mean, the strawman that was used to fearmonger people like you about the 3 percent of the population that may (maybe) at one point in your life, share a public restroom with you?

>Dude trannies are like 3% of the population at most, I don't know why you're getting so fucking upset over allowing them to use whatever bathrooms they want
>But we should totally put a law in place that assists that numerically insignificant portion of the population regarding whatever bathroom they use, even though only minutes ago I was calling you an overoffended SJW-mirror snowflake for being upset over what 3% of the population does

>>81946175
>fighting with cartoonified versions of arguments in my head

>DUDE WE HAVE TO PUT MEN IN THE WOMENS' BATHROOMS LMAO

Why do SJW's hate women so fucking much?

It's bad enough that they want to Islamiscize culture in America to the point where its unrecognizable, and let in thousands of non-integrating immigrants from country's where groping and sexual assault is literally a game, but now they want to put men in the female bathrooms?

Again, why do they hate women so fucking much?
Is it because they're tired of bull-prepping and want some revenge?

>>81946269
>projecting this hard
>deflecting this hard

Go back to your subreddit, kiddo. Get the 2 hours you spent arguing on a Mongolian barbeque essay-correction site back in another way, lmao

>>81946196
>When in doubt
>everyone an SJW
Right. I see we aren't getting anywhere.

>>81946337
Who are you quoting?

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>>81945015

>>81946316

>it's authority worship to accept a Supreme Court ruling, the highest judiciary level in the country

Actually it's your philosophy of "The Supreme Court said it, so it is correct" that is blatant authority-worship.

>>81946304
>putting words in my mouth

Looks like you're completely slipping there, kiddo. I want blacked and SJWs gone too.

Don't Ever Slip Again

>>81946253
I must live in a bizzaro world...no, appeals to emotion are not real arguments.

>>81946377
Uh oh, the big baby is upset! Someone get him a safe space blankey!

>>81946361
>everyone I don't like is /pol/

>>81946361
>>81946377

>DUDE SJW'S AREN'T REAL, YOU JUST HAVE TO PRACTICE YOUR THOUGHT-CONTROL AND GRASP OF BLACKWHITE LIKE ME AND YOU WON'T SEE THEM ANYMORE LMAO

>>81946259
>poor reading comprehension
>still no concrete argument
So, no?

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>>81945591

holy shit is this you?

>>81946392
Didn't even say that, kek. Misquoting won't get you upboats here, kiddo.

I can feel you slipping.

>>81946289
All middle aged trannies are child rapists now? Woah, all these fired neurons.

>>81946381
>I want the SJWs gone
>but it's /pol/ who caused this mess not the SJWs who are still replying to the obvious bait
>I'm going to legitimise SJWs being here by pretending we're being raided by /pol/ but I don't want them here

>>81946421
>projecting

>>81946454
>all this projection based on misunderstanding posts

Why are you slipping? I said I want them all gone, I don't freaking care who raided us first.

Stop getting triggered over things that never happened, LMAO

>>81945582

>admitting that trannies are less than 3% of the population

It's more like 0.03%.

And with that admission that they are a super-minority, why is it so important that the rest of the world capitulate to them?

Why should 99.6% of actual women put up with men pissing with them and their daughters?

Why can't the 0.03% of trannies suck it the fuck up and use the bathroom they delusionally don't """"identify"""" with?

You literally want and applaud the forced capitulation of a massive majority for a super-minority that is literally composed of delusional men in dresses that are statistically likely to blow their brains out before age 50.

>>81946326
I've literally said I want no regulatory policies, laws or rules on any gender or sexuality...

That goes for cis men and women too, kiddo.

>>81945423
>These are brain scans, not personality quizzes or internet IQ tests.

I know. And if you're contemplating getting your dick cut off, it might should be part of the battery of tests to determine whether or not you're a good candidate for gender reassignment.

Social ostracism is part of the problem, yes, but it's by no means the sole factor in the high suicide rate both pre- and post-op. Some of these people who claim to be trans have legitimate psychological problems that have zero to do with transgenderism.

>>81946454
>>81946304
>autism

>>81946379
>t. how our country literally works

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>>81946424
Did you even read my post? I didn't say anything remotely close to what your strawman said.

>>81946491
Oh you're a lolbertarian aka an autistic liberal

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>>81946351
Tell me again how you aren't the slightest bit triggered. Maybe in-between panicked screeches and quick as shit responses and samefagging twenty straight threads, you can convince me of how calm and collected you are.

>>81946450

Except I never said that. You jumped to that conclusion.

Although I will admit: Men fighting tooth and nail to be able to use the same bathroom where little girls are nice and vulnerable, with no supporting argument other than "i feel better pissing with them", is very fucking suspicious.

>>81946402
Why are you pretending this isn't /pol/'s fault? It's obvious to everyone, it is always obvious. You faggots don't do nuance.

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>>81946545

>>81946491

>I've literally said I want no regulatory policies, laws or rules on any gender or sexuality...

Cool, can't wait to perv in the female restroom smoking a cig and not get removed by campus security under the grounds that it would be "discrimination".

After all, the helicopter I sexually identify as is a female helicopter.

>>81946437
But you did
>appeals to emotion are components to arguments
Is this not you defending appeals to emotion?

>>81946575
I'd say it's all the people who took OP's bait seriously who's at fault desu

>>81946519

So when the courts ruled blacks were 3/5's of a person you were equally sure of their moral correctness, right?

>>81946461
No it isn't retard, I've asked you three times now for a substantial argument and am answer. I get it, you just don't have one.

>>81946486
Just because they're a minority doesn't mean they don't deserve rights and fairness. Women aren't surrendering their bathrooms. MtFs are just getting the right to use the bathroom they should be using.

>>81943733
It creates an organism without the base desire of procreation, something nearly every other functioning organism has as a goal.