Collateral

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>>81936363
pure nightcore

You know the opinion

Mann's best aside from Miami Vice.

>>81936460

I agree MV is his best. I think Heat and Thief are better than Collateral. They're all great though.

>>81936460
>>81936483
wtf. Miami Vice was shit

>>81936508

The only people who can hold that opinion are plebs.

Miami Vice is a masterpiece, one of the best films of the current century.

>>81936508
You have terrible taste

>>81936483
not liking cocktails the most

>>81936581

what does this mean

Mann fucking sucks. Literally the only director to get a boring performance out of Daniel Day Lewis, Manhunter vs. Silence of the Lambs is absolutely embarrassing. and he got DeNiro and Pacino in a movie together and blew it.

>>81936668

Silence of the Lambs is trash mate

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Enjoyed it so much I forgot about that movie. Cruise played amazing.

What's your guys top 5 movies ever?
https://youtu.be/TlF0Ik7b55s

>>81936363
Tom Cruise rarely makes a bad movie.

In fact, apart from Jack Reacher 2, I don't think hes ever made a bad movie.

>>81936668
>shits on Manhunter
You just outed yourself as a pleb... The ambience alone that Mann creates in that movie is better than anything in Silence of the Lambs.

>>81936714
one hour photo
solaris 2002
melancholia (by lars von trier)
the machinist
collateral
wall street
memories of murder
margin call
enemy
amadeus
maniac 2012
memento
the prestige
insomnia
ninth gate
snowpiercer
lost highway
eyes wide shut
whisky romeo zulu
unfaithful
casino
fight club
secret window
only lovers left alive
under the skin
black swan
pandorum
possible worlds

>>81936363
It was a perfect role for him and he played it perfectly.

Cruise will go down as the biggest movie star of the last 30 years

>>81936363
Watched this movie realistically 7 times.
It's good. Not on my top list but it holds your attention perfectly for a late night with a bowl of snack items.
Probably one of my faverite tom cruise movies though.

>>81936688
Wew

>>81936742
For some reason Jack Reacher 2 touched me the wrong way and I'm still upset over it. It was a bad film, it was a bad Tom Cruise film, and it ruined any chances of a Reacher series. The books are actually really good.

But you're right, he rarely makes bad movies. I love most of his movies in fact. I didn't really care for Oblivion though.

>>81936616
not knowing the 1988 classic cocktail starring a very straight Tom Cruise who is not gay at all

>>81936809
>Cruise will go down
reporting you to the FBI for suspected assassination implications

>>81936363
Mann is operatorkino extraordinaire

>>81936889

we were talking about Michael Mann's best movies you gigantic plebeian

>>81936668
You're trying too hard, friend.

>>81936363
I used to consider it one of my favorite movies of all time but not now, still it's really really good and a really nice movie to watch when you want to chill late at night, comfy as fuck

It's one of the few movies that captures late nights perfectly

>>81936380

>No judgement night with based emilio estevez

Fuck off.

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There's so many solid 7/10+ Cruise kinos
>The Firm
>Vanilla Sky
>EWS
>Jerry Maguire
>War of the Worlds
>Oblivion
>M.I
>Knight and Day
The list is endless. The guy's a fucking beast.

>>81936809
Cruise sucks Pitts dick on the daily compare war of the worlds to world war z.

>>81937005

Vanilla Sky, Jerry Maguire, Oblivion, and Knight and Day are all terrible.

I like most of the movie, but maybe 2/3 of the way in I lose interest.

I can't explain why.

The cinematography is great and the story is interesting, I just... stop caring.

LA looks great, though -- better than being there.

>>81936380
Where's Nightcrawler

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>>81936998
relax mate. add it to the pic if you want.

I'd literally suck Tom's dick and I'm not even a faggot.

>>81937025

World War Z is trash. War of the Worlds is a masterpiece.

>>81937038
old pic. needs updating

>>81937063
I was gonna point that out to him but what's the point.

>>81936363
Pretty lame but I enjoyed Cruise in some operator stuff

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>>81936889

>>81937027
Shut up, Vanilla Sky is kino as fuck. Oblivion was retarded though, that was a huge mistake for him.

Also Edge of Tomorrow is a really great flick. Also pre-99 he also did good works occasionally.

>>81937106

Vanilla Sky is a very, very bad movie my man.

dat nightclub scene

>>81936688
>>81936767
all you need to know about people who enjoy the work of Michael Mann

his movie was literally so forgettable that it only exists for people to go "wow Hopkins did Hannibal so much better"

>>81936363
it was good for its time

>>81937136
You're a faggot.

>>81937136
not that guy but I don't agree

it does seem very Marmite to me though, I can see why someone wouldn't like it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8ZisDHg6v0

pure fucking kino

>>81937167

I like how you think loving a mainstream, Oscar winning piece of mediocrity is proof of the fact that you have good taste. Sorry but it's the opposite.

And Manhunter isn't even in the top 5 Mann movies, no idea why you keep talking about it. It is good though, leagues above Silence of the Lambs.

Can we all at least agree that Blackhat was shit in every way?

>>81937261

Nope. It's great.

did anyone get a Malick vibe from Miami Vice or am I being retarded

especially the scenes with Farrell and the asian bitch

>>81937311

Absolutely not. It feels very similar to The New World. And I mean that in the best way possible. A double feature of those two movies would make for an incredible experience.

>>81937063
Yeah watching Tom Couch play an idiot father running from aliens with constantly crying Downsy Fanny. Masterpiece.

>>81937381

You sound like someone who probably has nuanced, insightful views on art.

>>81937284
Say something that's great about it.

>>81937136
>>81937106
It doesn't matter what either of (You) think, all of these >>81937005 were a success, including Vanilla Sky.

>>81937248
>I like how you think that there is universal agreement that Silence of the Lambs > Manhunter is proof that liking Manhunter means you have shitty taste

whatever pal, enjoy your totally not mediocre Mann crime flicks, having one movie in the past 20 years that wasn't critically panned doesn't mean he's a bad director

>>81937424

It's absolutely gorgeously filmed.

>>81937452

Enjoy your middle-of-the-road, palatable, soccer mom movies that mainstream critics and the Oscars deem worthy.

>>81937489
Do you think Mann movies are more than just boring, overly serious crime thrillers? Yea those mainstream audiences really hate crime movies that must be why they don't like Mann's movies.

>>81936363
Liked everything except the ending
I found it depressing and hollow, not the depression that's accompanied with satisfaction either like: "Damn.. that sucks but it makes sense"

I think Jamie should have defeated Vincent using his cowardice, turning it and making it a strength somehow. Using Vincents aggression and mercilessness against him, a fight between opposites culminating with nature striking a balance in the end

I didn't see this, I saw the weaker of the two besting the other at his own game for some unexplainable reason.
That drained out the immersion which at the same time mixed in the endings somber setting and.. really fucked shit up

>>81937556

Sounds like you're intimately familiar with his oeuvre

>>81937556
They're peak crime movies though, there's just not that much market for them. I mean how many can you put out in one decade? He has more success on TV and in not-directing roles unfortunately.

>>81937455
It looked awful in a theater. The use of different digital cameras was extremely visible, especially during action scenes like the shootout at the docks.

>>81937261
Blackhat sucked but was beautiful to look at

>>81937628

It sounds like we have different aesthetic standards I guess.

What do you think of the look of Miami Vice? I think it's probably one of the most beautifully shot movies period.

>>81937597
at least 75% of his movies are about criminals

>>81936773
So mainly a bunch of movies from the past decade with a few 80's and 90's flicks here and there.

>>81937656
I think we do.
I didn't see it because I wasn't interested in either a Miami Vice movie or another Mann movie.
I can't even remember why I went to see Blackhat.

>>81937261
>>81937636
Everyone knows hacker movies are impossible to get right so I guess they decided to just go for broke with pleasing executives. It was better than it had any right to be given the circumstances.

>>81937717

Too bad. It's his best movie.

>>81936363
To be quite honest I wasn't into this movie for the story. I heard about it and saw a rip of it online and then purchased the DVD because I thought it was an enjoyable action flick.

When it comes to movies of this sort, you really do have to toss the story in the trash. But on a bit of a side note it did work pretty well. Tom Cruise is believable, although strange looking with the hairdo in this movie.

Really, this movie has some great action sequences (club scene) and works well along side movies like Ronin (my go-to) and Heat. It's in good company there.

>>81936380
>spring breakers
>lost in translation

You were so close

>>81937261
Only thing I couldn't get over was the fact that there was zero chemistry between Hemsworth and the asian chick. I thought they were going to pull one of those "decoy love interest that refuses to fuck the protagonist" shticks but unfortunately I was wrong

>>81937823
Has hemsworth ever had chemistry with anyone but himself?

>>81937719
The script was still an unforgivable mess.
And while I agree it has some great shots, it also has some ridiculous shots, like the bad guy and all his henchmen standing inside an unfinished building in different rooms so all you can see are their silhouettes

>>81937845
No but the one in blackhat was probably the flattest I've ever seen. It makes his relationship with portman in thor look like romeo and fucking juliet.

>>81937766
replace them. add more. jesus christ i didnt even make the image.

>>81937876
Yeah, it was a train wreck from the outset. I want to know what sort of deals went on to get that thing made at all.

>>81937593
What you wanted to happen is exactly what did happen. Vincent shot straight, using the Mozambique drill technique, but the bullets couldn't penetrate the steel center of the subway door. Meanwhile, Jamie jukes around and blindly fires, hitting Vincent in the side. Vincent died because he did the same thing he'd always done, and Jamie took a chance. i.e. literally the theme of the movie. Mann is a genius.

>>81937025
And compare them in Interview with the Vampire.
Cruise blown Pitt out the water.

>>81936380
After hours is amazing

>>81938554
Cruise sucked in that movie, fancy pants hoity toity bitch.
And I like that movie, but it sure as fuck ain't cuz of cruise.

>>81938692
How do you figure? He was accurate to the period the movie is set in. Plus the whole thing smelled of that glam rock era shit that for whatever reason gets women fuckin' moist.

I didn't have a high opinion of the movie before I saw it, but after seeing it it's one of my favorites. It humanizes the vampires and their struggle to cope with what they are. It's fucking fascinating. Both of them did a great job conveying this struggle. It wasn't all "We're invincible and have dem skill n' shit" they were vulnerable and some of them got f'd up.

I thought it enhanced the whole vampire stories quite well.

Dracula was one of my fav's though. Gary Oldman fucking killed it as Dracul.

>>81937005
>Knight and Day
>good
It goes like this.
Great:
Rain Man
Eyes Wide Shut
Collateral
Edge of Tomorrow
Minority Report
Pretty Good:
Interview with the Vampire
Born on the fourth of July
Last Samurai
Magnoila
A Few Good Man
Good:
Jerry Maguire
Mission Impossible
The Firm
Decent:
MI:2 and 4
Oblivion
War of Worlds
Vanilla Sky
Risky Business
Shit:
Everything else

>>81939059
Knight and Day was perfectly fine for what it was trying to be.

>people dislike Vanilla Sky
what the heck

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>>81937151

Fuck that scene was cool

Amazing soundtrack that complimented the scene too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAHxAD6X-Ng

KOM BI KO A DOA.

>>81936363
In my top 20 post 2000.

>>81936363
One of my all time favourites. The coyote scene almost made me cry (was weird to find out it was completely unplanned).

I don't know how to say this without sounding really stupid, but there's just something profoundly human about Michael Mann's films. Things like the diner scene or the beach in Thief - he just fucking gets it.

And that's putting aside the dank action and the fact Tom Cruise was born for this role.

>>81939931
Mann brings out the best in his actors by making them actually work for it. Thief is by far his best film, Caan nailed that shit so hard.
>Literally made him crack a safe on film cause why not

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>>81937381
nice pleb opinion

>>81937845
Rush

him and Bruhl played off each other well

>>81941623
He has that innate chadness that makes his bro chemistry so much better than anything relating to females.

>>81939059
>last Samurai only "pretty good"
jesus christ

Collateral is a fantastic pleb tester.

Tom Cruise is fucking exceptional, plays the part perfectly... but the rest of the film is fucking atrocious.

Foxx is an awful, awful actor. The detective character is waste of a great actor and 40 minutes of screen time. The music sucks. There's no atmosphere. No linear perception of time. No tangible goals for characters. Awful movie.

>>81942985
its a good yet overall generic white savior movie. people who think its anything more are self-inserting weebs

>>81943586
list your top 3
>this should be good

>>81943617
Cool Runnings
Dangerous Minds
Gran Torino

>>81943586
>white savior movie
Oh, so you didn't even watch it then.

>>81943874
The trope fits anon. Dont try and argue semantics.

>>81943586
almost fell for it, until the white saviour part.
So we agree it's great.

White humility maybe

Based soundtrack also.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSMYBasC_OM

>>81943901
It doesn't fit, it's a cheap assessment of a reasonably layered story.

>>81943210
Whoa, whoa we're just playing jazz, man. Let's, let's just play some jazz.

>>81944017
>>81943983
like I said. its just good. but generic. just admit youre a weeb. youre anonymous on an originally weeb-website

>>81944186
Honestly, I'm not. I don't watch anime. I do have a powerful attraction to Japanese women, however.

>>81936460
Black Hat >>>>>>>>>> Miami Vice >>>>>>> Collateral >>>>>> (power gap) >>>>>>>> Heat > Thief

>>81936363

What is Mann's worst film? Is it Ali?

>>81936878
Pretty sure Colbie Smulders ruined. Eternal leaf strikes again.

>>81944309
lol

>>81944186
The Assassination Of Jesse James By The Coward Robert Ford
Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance

only date/wife women of eastern/northern European decent.

Last Samurai is great tier tb/h senpai

>>81944334
its a tie between blackhat and public enemies

>>81944391
Public Enemies filters out plebs really, really well

>>81944371
>generic is great
ok

>>81944421
Yep. People with shit taste like it.

>>81944448
I'm with you mate, didn't care for it

not enough capes, explosions and funny quips :^)

>>81944842
lol try again. you rekt yourself

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>>81943210
>There's no atmosphere.
Dumbest thing I've read in a while.

>>81944334
It's certainly The Keep.

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Manhunter is the most AESTHETIC film ever made

>>81936380
>tfw I made this poster

Buzzy, glad to see it floating around still.

>>81947898
Actually I made it. Seriously though how red is your face right now?