Doctor Who General /who/

The music for Smile was absolute kino

We Woz Londoners And Shiet!

>>81922220
moffat will eternally burn in hell for this crime

>>81919145
episode was much better than expected. i liked the john simm cameo

>>81922281
Nice wacky meme

So let me see If I understood, The Emojibots became sentient and built the city for themselves? So the Doctor pretty much wiped past events from the minds whilst jeeping their sentient status therefore achieving cooperation with the humans?

Have never seen any episode of Dr. Who, should I start watching right now?

Ah yes another Humans are bad and robots have feelings episode

Great music reminded me of sci of 80's movies and Mass Effect. Overall good episode. I think it would have been better without the survivors they dragged it down a bit.

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>tfw no qt emojibot gf

>>81922377
No

Hahaha Bill did a WE WUZ KANGS being intimate with that bust of Nefertiti

>>81922377
No, fuck off

where was simm

>>81922437
in one of the pods

Someone make a gif of 12 smacking the shit into that Emoji bot with the crowbar.

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>It's a having to wait a week until the next DW episode

I'm ready...

>>81922370
no

>>81922437
I hope you didn't actually believe that

I didn't like the ending. Mostly because the Doctor left the machines to potentially go haywire again and kill of the remaining survivors. Granted the survivors were faggots, but still.

>>81922313
Lol, where was it?

So it's pretty much confirmed that promise the Doctor made was referring to Susan right.

>>81922486
watch the whole thing again. youll find it

>>81922377
Stop while you're ahead.

>>81922437
He was inside each and every one of those dumb looking robots.

>>81922377
Yes.
Series 10 is a good starting point, you can start even with today's episode.

Admit it that scene of 12 running across the wheat field back into the city was one of the most kino moments in the shows history.

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>tfw this episode made me realize that Bill can actually be kinda qt in an unconventional, uncomfortable way

How old is Bill meant to be? Since she looks like a fucking 40-50 years old

>Humans are now a slave race because they have no money to offer

Also whoever was the engineer for not being able to identify loss to the robots was a retard.

Requesting the robot face with a loss edit.

>>81922511
Damn you Moffat, it's cheap way to raise view count

absolutely terrible episode
FUCK this show

>>81922465
I believe that I want Bill to slobber on my slimy cock

>>81922220
that woman (?) is a chore to look at

This episode was absolute fucking shit

for the record, I thought last week was pretty kino

>>81922532
I kind of wanted to see him running back to the tardis with the whole city blowing up in the background

Enjoyed that episode more than I thought I would, despite the whole "Wiping their memory so live together" ending, first half was a nice flesh out for Bill and The Doctor and how they'll interact, already prefer Bill to most companions desu.

Also, I am liking the Hartnell feel to these episodes, the end leading into the next is a nice touch though I bet Briggs is shitting it for Big Finish shoe ins.

>>81922220
Once again an ep with a good concept was ruined by "le human colonists are ignorant" cliche yet again. The episode was so good until the little boy turned up then I knew it was about to take a U-turn. And what was with the wacky camerawork? When 12 said "he fancied me" why did the camera linger on him for like 10 seconds? I thought doctor who had one of the biggest BBC budgets, couldn't they afford a decent editor?

>>81922437
Nardole :^)))

7/10
GOAT MUSIC
GOAT CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN BILL AND DOCTOR
GOAT VISUALS

CRAPPY SIDE CHARACTERS THOUGH
THE ENDING WAS SHIT.

So Doctor Who TV had this in their teasers yesterday:

"3. My favorite bit: the comical take on Emergency Program One."

...Where was this?

episode was shite, Capaldi deserves better

My stream fucked up, so I missed the middle. It was basically happiness patrol, wasn't it?

>>81922627
It was a homosexuality joke.
You had 10 seconds to realise that it's a joke and laugh.

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I think this felt like a really Doctor Who episode. Morffeus wasn't lying when he said the stories were back to essentials.

>>81922673
no, because Happiness Patrol was good

The next episode feels like The Beast Below Victorian version.

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That episode was shite.

Please for the love of fuck can Bill just be a 1 season companion. It's just pandering to tumblr fags and all those other cunts who think they're who the showrunners should listen to purely because they're fucking louder than everyone else.

What a good episode.

All apart from the ending. If maybe it had shown the doctor reprogramming the bots instead of "and then I did x" it would have flown better.

>>81922673
>My stream fucked up, so I missed the middle

Same :/ Just gonna wait and watch a rip first next week.

>>81922636
Agreed on everything aside from your use of caps

>>81922730
Confirmed, she is.

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>>81922568
It'd be like fucking a cheesegrater.

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>>81922730
>not liking Bill

>>81922281
>>81922231

Nah that's a load of shite. Regency era London exists at the end of the era when the city had a population of 'black poor' which went into decline after slavery was fully abolished between 1808 and 1833 as they all began to emigrate to places like Sierra Leone. During the 18th century, Lord Mansfield had declared that a slave who fled from his master could not be taken by force in England, nor sold abroad. Up in Mile End, Stepney, Paddington, and St Giles, there were populations of blacks living amongst whites, The majority of these people did not live as slaves, but as servants to wealthy whites. Many became labelled as the "black poor," defined as former low-wage soldiers, seafarers and plantation workers.
There were bunches of black campaign groups in London at the time as well, like the Committee for the Relief of the Black Poor, and the Sons of Africa.

Still, the population was relatively small when compared to South Asians and East Indians (lascars) who were also sometimes referred to as 'black', leading to confusion.

Famous black people in Britain during this time include Pablo Fanque, Olaudah Equiano, Ottobah Cugoano and Joanna Vassa.

>>81922730
Both her and 12 are gone at end of season. They are starting clean after the Moff leaves.

>>81922369

You don't actually know anything about London history.

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>>81922636
>goat conversations

Doctor: Explains something
Bill: LOL I'M SO RANDOM

Every. Single. Cunting. Time.

>>81922670

>there's broadband, watch a movie

Jesus christ the voice volume is too damn low! it's hard to fucking hear what their saying half the time.

>>81922772
>>81922816

I could kiss you

I usually re-watch a new episode later in the evening.

Not this time.

>>81922730

shut up cunt

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>>81922783

>>81922907
She is not random, She Just don't want to fuck doctor. until regeneration

>>81922983
what's that got to do with Emergency Program One? EPO was the thing that took Rose back home in The Parting of the Ways m8

>>81922988

turn up your tv dumbass

>>81922815
>Famous black people in Britain during this time include Pablo Fanque, Olaudah Equiano, Ottobah Cugoano and Joanna Vassa.

So no one then?

>>81923014
Let me guess, you are clarafag?

>>81922988
Thought so too during the machine reprogramming bit. Otherwise it was normal.

>>81923062

idk boss that was the only line i could think of that relates to that. just suggesting that maybe that's what they were referring to?

>>81923082
No, I'm a decentepisodefag

Enjoy the episode quite a bit, but the third act felt a tad schlocky and it was a bit distracting. Visuals, music and acting from Capaldi and Macke were really good though. They should definitely bring the direct back for Season 11.

Not sure how to feel about Episode 3. Hope it sticks the landing.

>>81923067

What?

>>81923132
What did he mean by this?

>>81922538
The Female Anglo Wall effects all roastie scum, even the half-caste quintessentially British ones.

Can Guarantee you Dollards episode will be one that shits on white men, while praising non whites.

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>>81923132
never forget

Bill's innocence is CUTE

CUTEEEEEEEEEE

>>81923167
Doctor is white

>>81923033
You're right, she's not, saying this quirky shit hasn't been random for years but it's still being portrayed as such.

And you can pull off a companion not wanting to fuck the doctor (which should be every one but they're never gonna stop doing it) and not have her shitty attempts to be "LOLWTF?!" i.e. Donna

torrent anyone?

>>81923180
There's innocence and there's being dumb.

Not a bad episode, got early nuWho vibes

It took him 7 years but Moffat finally created a likeable, realistic feeling companion who doesn't just rely on being gorgeous and quippy.

Bill is Donna-tier.

>>81923132
HAPPY FOURTEENTH BIRTHDAY!

>>81923142
>famous people
>famous

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Shit episode. LOL EMOJIS

>Ctrl+ F "Ark in Space"
>0 results
>same in last thread

What the fuck is wrong with you, do you guys even watch Doctor Who.

>>81923239

Not my fault you're fucking historically illiterate son.

>>81923261
Loss Edit please.

>>81923280

i mentioned The Ark in the last thread and I was actually referring to The Ark in Space, just got confused.

>>81923209
https://docs.google.com/document/d/107k4dkqOM_G_4p6eZR90y8Nla1NEiKgB1qMkMmv8Yz0/edit?usp=sharing

>>81923280
When Bill said "What is this?" in the pod scene, I said, "Indomitable, that's what it is."

To nobody

Cause I was alone

>>81922220
Ayo I missed the episode today. Was it any good?
ALSO TORRENT WHERE

>>81923194
She has no control over that. But he's an alien so it doesn't count. She'll still go for the white men are evil lulz.

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>>81923231

Reminder that Smile was written by the same guy who did Forest of the Night
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-06-18/the-most-divisive-doctor-who-episode-has-been-revealed

>>81923337
Thank you. Also you live up to your name, nice

So, this episode's gonna be a cheap carbon of "Happiness Patrol" just like the previous one was a cheap carbon of "Remembrance"?

Megalink WHEN

>>81923432
The last episode wasn't copy of rememberance.

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What did /who/ think of 'Smile'?
http://www.strawpoll.me/12803469
http://www.strawpoll.me/12803469
http://www.strawpoll.me/12803469
Last time:
The Pilot: http://www.strawpoll.me/12755860/r

>>81923478
>>81923209
Are you banned from RARBG?

Utter shit.

Cheers, Jon Blum

>>81923357

DO
ONE
BOARDIE

>>81923169
we know you are PilordeParadox too

>>81923302
What?

>>81923432

Literally how is that anything like accurate you complete fucking dinlow.

Calling it now

GOAT SEASON 10 EPISODES

Knock Knock
Oxygen
Extremis
Lie of the Land
Empress of Mars
Eaters of Light
The Doctor Falls/World and Time Enough

>>81923502
7/10

So it was basically a Tom Baker story with nu-who graphics and cinematography.

If you disliked it - you hate classic era.

>>81923610
More than S9 had going for it, so there's that.

>>81923629
This is not how I remember Tom Baker's era.

>>81923610
>Empress of Mars
>GOAT

Any mega link yet?
Nothing on r/megalinks yet

>>81923629
No, wait, I found a difference.

The Tom Baker era was entertaining

Nope but plenty of good torrents on Rarbg, so a megalink won't be far away

>>81923629
Well I do hate Underworld, so maybe you have a point.

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>>81923302

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p85xwZ_OLX0

Oh look, the ending's been uploaded

>>81922728
I thought that was this episode.
>apparently perfect society
>but if you fuck up you get recycled
>actually, humans were the monsters all along, the whale/robots were only trying to help
>doctor almost wipes out humans by accident, companion shows him his error

>>81923742
>>actually, humans were the monsters all along, the whale/robots were only trying to help
I missed this part due to bad connection, how were they trying to help?

>>81923502
It's pretty much the definition of a 6/10 to me. Some nice moments jotted throughout but was all in all a bland episode in a bland environment with a bland plot. Not like I was expecting anything more though.

Ok /who/ which episode is going to be that one that looks awful from the synopsis but is actual 10/10 GOAT

>>81923807
By making sure nobody in the colony is sad.
>kill all sad people
>number of sad people in colony: 0
>ROBOT LOGIC

>>81923822
This one was the one with bad synopsis and it wasn't GOAT.

>>81923822
Whatever one has John Simm.

I think the series will start picking up around knock knock. eps 1-3 are just the starting eps, nothing ground breaking or special.

>>81923855
it was SHIT

>>81923345
This was me yeah.

I thought it was really nice, all the nods toward Ark In Space, and then I was surprised they when they went the full way and actually linked it in.

CASUALWHOSTREAM

WE ARE WATCHING AFTERSHOW WITH PETER CAPALDI AND CHRISTEL DEE
GET IN
GET IN
GET IN

>>81923734
Not what I was expecting I was wanting it just in the robot's face. Bravo though.

>>81923940
like the original comic inside the robot?

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>>81923917
I was thinking of The Ark throughout the entire pod scene. And then the elephant cliffhanger happened.

>>81923975
Kinda, but using emoji or just the Lines.

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Say hello to your next doctor

>>81924098
bretty gud actually.

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>tfw Capaldi BTFOs Christel on the Aftershow

Dubs confirm series 10 will overall be meh.

IT DIDN'T SUCK!

Capaldi Who is saved!

>>81924183
I'd shove my big cock into Christel Dee's little tight snatch and i'd make her feel like a blown woman again. A bit of cock is all that these ''lesbians'' need in order to be fixed.

>>81924187
Cool now it's 50/50 between terribad and great

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>tfw s10 links up all the stories directly, preventing Briggs from easily inserting Big Finish stories

Is it too late for thread theme?

https://youtu.be/0WxDrVUrSvI

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>>81922627
rehashing old jokes. it's like the whole "oh you've redecorated.....i don't like it"

singles confirm most of series 10 will be GOAT

Dubs confirm from oxygen onwards series 10 will all be GOAT.

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>tfw Capaldi discovers the alien shrub

>>81924300
Fucking Netlix spelt Cheam wrong

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>tfw renegade master

Why is Bill so flat?

I ended up missing the episode, does anyone have any links where i can watch it?

>>81924463
see
>>81923337
:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8O2sIh0yq8

Can we talk about the sonic having three (red, blue and green) different lights? What is the difference between them? Especially between green and blue. Also why has the Doctor in the 4 episodes we have seen only used the blue light?

The scene where 12 runs back towards the city was cool and his whacking the robot.

Better than The Pilot

>>81922220
Jesus fucking Christ don't post this hideous creature again

>>81924611
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>81924640
you are not very smart are you

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>>81924640
That's just a terrible photo,

Thoughts on Bill? So far she's completely average to me. Glad she's not annoying but she's not a real standout either. Almost doesn't seem to matter since Capaldi is so watchable though.

>>81924041
Yeah defo some of The Ark in there too. Outright referenced the whole Season 12 setting though, which I thought was nice.

>>81924804
I think she's fantastic compared to Amy and Clara. Moffat really tried with characterisation this time.

>>81924804
Think she's p. cool. A better Rose but a lesser Donna. Plays off The Doctor really well. Much better than Clara ever did.

>>81924804
I think being average is the point; Moff must have heard one too many "Impossible Girl Who Waited" complaints

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>tfw today was Record Store Day
>they release this

Is there anywhere online I can buy this?

http://recordstoreday.co.uk/exclusive-releases/rsd-2017/doctor-who/

>>81924828
Anything in particular you think is fantastic?

>>81924855
At the record store. Clue's in the name.

>>81924804
t. Nilso

>>81924828
She asks real questions, which are logical to ask
She isnt behaving bossy, she didnt real want to save everyone at first because she didnt understand why did they have to do this if its dangerous

>>81924828
yeah. this. and I'm /pol/ af

Moffat chose the other companions with his dick

this time I think the SJW racemixing kike BBC producers chose for him

and the result (quite accidentally) is pretty good

>>81924883
Do you see a purchase button?
This is like the comic book day scam where you have to go outside to a local comic book shop.

The thing is I've only just found out and even if there were any record shops near me, they won't be open at 9pm

>>81924879 => >>81924936
replied to wrong post at first

>>81924940
>(quite accidentally)

Pablo Fanque's circus next week then?

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>>81924943
>this is like the scam where you have to go outside

>>81924804
She's not very important which is good. But they overdid her lack of genre understanding, makes her look stupid.

Anyone find the ending to smile almost nonsensical?

>>81925105
liked it until the 3rd act
the episode had 4 acts in total which is a flaw in and of itself

>>81925105
Yeah, that's the prevailing opinion over at reddit.com, you might like it there (:

>>81925177
:(

>>81924828

Amy was a lot better when she had Rory to balance her out

>>81925208
Brave heart anon :)

>>81925077
that's been bugging me too, especially as she's also supposed to be a big sci-fi fan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VSRbkP-a78

>>81925249

I was expecting an "Oh my god Doctor, are they feeding me people?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSDtD63xzcM

We will never get the series 9 soundtrack nor the series 10 soundtrack. Reel that in folks.

Didn't the Doctor forget to deal with the whole grief thing when he reset the Vardies? When someone dies of old age aren't they just going to start killing people again?

>>81925612

I have no idea.

>yfw the Tree episode made more sense than this one

>>81923854
tfw that is a pretty good argument against negative utilitarianism and I really liked that.

>>81925570
It's cause Marigold had a baby

https://twitter.com/edwardrussell/status/855463630179008513

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>>81925612
delet this

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>>81925612
No. Instead they're going to act the complete opposite way and throw a celebration.

It'll be.....a Vardy Party

>>81925612
No I thought the point was that he wiped their memory of human obligation therefore they weren't programmed to specifically make people happy and were their own species.

Is there a good review series of Classic Who that is hosted by normal people and not Reddit hipsters and neckbeards?

>>81925780
This

>>81925799
Wife in Space

>>81925808
Yeah, they are basically their own species and off screen (which was retarded they should have focused on this more) the doctor helped negotiate how the humans would live with them.

That ending was weak should have just blown them all up.

>>81925799
based stubagful

as much as i like bill as a character im not sure i can ever find her physically attractive

this is not a bad thing

did anyone elses copy of todays episode end early? annoying.

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>>81922816
>12 is leaving already

Fug

>>81926317
>copy

>>81924804
Best companion since Donna. Moffat finally learned how to write real people.

Pearl is actually really cool and likable in the aftershow thing.

>>81926020
I don't trust Stubag
>Didn't hate The Final Problem
>He thought that overrall DC2>DC3

BIT MORE BLACK THAN THEY SHOW IN THE MOVIES

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>>81924842
>fans get what they wanted: an ordinary girl as companion (yeah she fancies women but it's Who after all). Not the Doctor's perfect woman/ most important person in the universe/ future mother in law/ scattered through his whole time line. And fans still complain.

so when moff leaves all his tropes go with him like with RTD?

>A bit more black than they show in the movies!

Oh shit I better not miss next week's episode!

>>81922378
Its more a "robots can turn you into fucking confetti so you better learn how to get along with them" episode.

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>>81926723
yes, then we'll gradually learn all of Chinball's tropes

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Whoever requested smiley 2nd Doctor and Cybermen here you go

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>>81926790
you had better miss it or im going to land a tardis on you

and its chameleon circuit will be set to look like a giant yolandi just to mess with you

>>81926791
And don't get behind paying the rent.

>its a sarah dollard episode
D R O P P E D

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>>81926938
Can you do smiling 11

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2017-04-22/the-tupperware-party-is-just-beginning-in-first-look-at-karen-gillans-directorial-debut

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y81C_Ts5Tc

>inb4 chibnal does an episode about a planet where daleks are basically the cleaning crew for a bunch of humans until they get attacked by the normal daleks and get whipped out

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>yfw Ecclescunt will never have a Davros scene

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>yfw 9 never met Captain Jack

>>81927130

He references him in Dalek and it was awesome.

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>>81926993
I liked Face the Raven, and also historicals, so am looking forward to it.

>>81927152
but he did

>>81927154
>in Dalek

eccleston was in In the Dalek, that was capaldi

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>>81927051

>>81927237
only in audios which arent canon

Is it the same period as starship UK in beast below?
Some people invented wardies shit, and others flew away on a whale?

is the new season

>>81927307
Pretty much.

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>>81927247
>eccleston was in In the Dalek, that was capaldi

>>81927285
he met him in the last two episodes he was in we are talking about jack harkness right?

>>81927298
They should have made the survivors in Smile Scottish

>>81927337
i meant eccleston WASNT in In the Dalek. that was capaldis episode. ecclreston never met davros.

>>81927342
the briggs-as-eccleston things dount count

>The ship's name backwards is "Nowhere"
I'm never sure how I feel about backwards words. On one hand they're completely overused. On the other, at least for this one, it was never made a big focus point.

>>81927383
there is no briggs as eccelston what is this nonsense? why are you shitposting?

>>81927270
that's pretty unsettling

>>81927247

What?

>>81927383

What the fuck are you smoking boy.

FYI if your torrenting todays episode it ends like 5 minutes early. Had to watch the rest on Iplayer.

>>81927247
are....are you trolling? is this bait?

>>81927567
im waiting for tonight so i have something to watch during break

>>81927567
I just checked, you're right, fuck! any chance this might get fixed?

>>81922220
I was wondering when nuWho was going to have a non-human as a companion for the Doctor.

>>81927152
>Captain Jack was sort of a 9th Doctor companion.

Not like you to make an error like this, Cloister. Think you meant 12. You ok dude?

>>81927711
>>>/pol/

>>81927383
They were talking about the ecclestone episode "Dalek" where Van Statten asks him who made the daleks and 9 says "by a madman, a man who was king of his own little people" or something.

9 meets Jack in the gas mask zombies episode and Jack stays with him until parting of the ways.

>>81927750
Can't I call someone hideous regardless of their race or their character's sexual orientation?

>>81927768
He's trolling. Or just really stupid.

The robots were cute as fuck.

>>81927768
oh ya that was the episode billie piper start crushing on him i mean of course rose id too but it was obvious billie liked him

>>81927567
Mine cut out all of the "next time on doctor who" but the whole episode was there

>>81927794
No, that would be you treating people who are different from you equally, which means not treating black people and gay people as gods who are worthy of so much more than you, and so you are therefore a racist bigoted homophobic fascist.

Did we get any new hits on the titanium age bingo card?

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>>81927442

It gets more unsettling

>>81927857
which one did you get?

How retarded were those crew members?

>better kill the monitors even though this whole city is made of tiny robots
>let's just hope they haven't gone so haywire that they'll kill us

Did they somehow not know that? wtf?

And why just not take the mood badges? No mood badge, no monitoring

>>81927421
>Thinking it was nowhere instead of now here

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Missed a few threads, but hopefully reminding again.

>>81928068
MTB's

>>81928265
thanks friendo

>>81923610
>World and Time Enough
Jesus, it's "World Enough and Time", Mongo.

>>81922815
Do you really think that people who've gone out of their way to be racist because they think it's cool are going to change their preconceptions of history just because you give them some facts that were always readily available? You can't educate someone who's trying to be an idiot.

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For those in which torrenting isn't an option,
primewire ag/tv-5134-Doctor-Who/season-10-episode-2
If you have adblocker, you should probably enable it.

>>81928560
Is the last five minutes cut off?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtHOEELvJAI
Surprisingly great reaction

>>81928614
Dont know, currently downloading. it's this version though
Doctor Who S10E02 Smile 720p WEB H264-BLiNG

>>81924272
They've already written two NSA novels with just Bill and one with Bill and Nardole.

And that's all Briggs needs. He finds a small gap you wouldn't think anything that big could fit into, and he makes it fit, and then you're happy. Sometimes he needs astroglide.

>>81928614
>>81928687
45:37 goes all the way through the credits.

i really loved the ep - mediocre ending but it looked amazing, best direction this season so far
8/10

>>81927421
This is a reference to one of the most famous novels of the 19th century, the first "failed utopia" novel. It's called Erewhon because "Utopia" means "nowhere", and because Samuel Butler can't spell backwards.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erewhon

Waiting for that dickpic anon

>>81929095
Actually, I read that's because "nohwere" used to be an actual alternate spelling for "nowhere."

>>81929005
>best direction this season so far
Anon, we've only had two episodes so far, and they're both directed by the same guy.

What kind of cuckshit was this episode?

So the humans have to abide by the robots, serve under the robot's rule, continue to smile for the robots, robots who by the way would still be confused by human emotions, pay to live there, and the previously sentient robots get away with murder?

Why the fuck can't the humans reprogram them exactly?

>>81929201
yeah but the pilot was really mediocre in terms of direction. i mean it was mostly set on earth and in the one spaceship scene they had to reuse the set from that clip they filmed to introduce asbill

>first human colony
>uses fucking emojis as interface
no wonder why they almost went extinct

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Colossal waste of Ralf Little in that part.

Ehhh Lurkio put da tea on 'are lad was a bigger role.

Famous enough that the BBC got him to make a series trailer, not famous enough to give him anything to do?

Unless... [cue music]

>>81929195
I'm sure people spelled it that way, and every other way you could spell things, back in 1500 or so, but all literate people in 1872 spelled it the same way we do.

The reason Butler gave was for pronunciation. If you read it backward and sound out each letter phonetically, it sounds like (upper class) rural Midlands English of the time, not like (upper class) urban London English, because they pronounced "wh" with a strong "h" sound before the "w".

But I always figured he just screwed up, and it was way too expensive to pulp and reprint a run back then, so he just made up a reason it was intentional. :)

>>81929389
I was joking but then on second thoughts.

He seems to be a loose end and nobody has served the BBC more royley (haha) than being in one of its best loved shows and then doing 10 YEARS of Two Pints of Lager And A Packet Of Crisps (which wasn't one of its best loved shows but worth watching for Sheridan in chav-slag mode if you go in for such things).

He's done a fair bit of kid's TV, some theatre, a "BBC man" through and through...fits the profile better than most suggestions.

A cheeky fiver ahead of the rush?

>>81929389
He made a series trailer?

>>81929095
I'm kind of surprised Doctor Who didn't reference Nehwon before Erewhon.

I know at least Gatiss is a Fritz Leiber fan.

The intro to the first Swords collection, with the whole bit about beyond the gulfs of time and the stranger dimensions of dreams, that's perfect Doctor Who.

And the whole point of the name, besides the Samuel Butler reference, is that his fantasy world isn't just cod-medieval or cod-Roman or cod-Viking or whatever, it mixes and matches from all different periods of Earth history, which is basically every dream Moffat has ever had.

>>81929720
Trailer maybe isn't the word but a promo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-6_RDESNqQ

>>81929783
He deserved a much better and bigger role wtf.

Wow this episode was so good it had all my favorite emojis in it! :) :') :} :|

Speaking of the ship's name. Why does it seem like it was purposely hidden?
The camera never panned down far enough to so the name on the door when The Doctor and Bill first entered. There was rust conveniently covering it on the map. In fact the only time it was ever shown was when the robots unlocked the door.
That seems like a lot of effort to try and hide a reference that most people wouldn't get.

wow can't wait for next week so we can how many black people were REALLY in regency era england!

it will be good to see REAL history for once!

thanks stephen and sarah :)

Have you ever killed anyone?

>>81929996
you are not very smart are you

>>81929996
>Waah! Stop giving me facts that contradict my preconceptions! It makes it harder for me to be racist, and I really want to be racist because it makes me edgy!

>>81929996

>There's so many black people because the villain lured them there then they all get eaten by the snake

This lady is really hard to look at. Does the quality of these new episodes make up for it? Or should I just wait for the next companion?

>>81930085
>facts

>>81930102
No, just wait.
Soon it'll be new doctor, new companion, new head writer so I'd just wait til then if I were you.

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Everyone have a smile

>>81922377
The only good Nu Who is Christopher E and a little bit of David Tenant.

Pretty good episode, but not great.

I can see why people made Tom-era comparisons, but unfortunately, one of the reasons is that the ending kind of let the rest of the story down in the same way as so many later Tom-era ones.

Still, it looked beautiful, the pacing (up until the ending) was relaxed without being slow, the interaction between Bill and 12 was great, the story (up until the ending) was solid, and all of the references were subtle instead of sledgehammery. 7.5/10.

And this isn't one of the episodes I was looking forward to. If this is as bad as it gets, it's going to be a great series.

>>81930165
Yes, you know those things that are in history books, and that are widely documented by pictures, legal records, etc.? They're called facts. They're useful things.

>>81922220

Doctor Who decides on a black female companion.

>Getting ready for some jungle fever

They choose the second ugliest black woman in the UK (adult Hermoine being the worst)

Why ?????

>>81930312
t. sarah dollard

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Recycling The Happiness Patrol huh.

Only THP is much better and seems to have had a bit of a critical reappraisal since it was broadcast.

>>81930312
See:
>>81928554

>pressure gauge

>>81924545
£ and Toys.

>>81930411
It's not even remotely recycling THP. It just borrows one idea from that story. It also borrows ideas from The Ark in Space, The Chase, the Samuel Butler novel Erewhon, and a dozen other sources. There's no evil Thatcher analogue, no rebellious gay-rights analogues who demand the right to be glum, no satirically camp costuming, etc.

Saying this recycles THP is like saying The Aztecs recycles Marco Polo because "le going back in time to a famous historical period".

>>81930085
Not saying there weren't black people around back then but even in this century the percentage of black people you see outside of the major cities is very low.

It's just with the Beeb, and especially on Doctor Who, you'd think there were as many black people as there were white people when there wasn't and still isn't. And the high percentage black areas of the country are usually shitholes that have barely any white people (basically south east london).

It's not even a race thing to be pissed off about it's just historical inaccuracy. Yes there are black people about but they're way over-represented. Not saying it's a problem because they're black, just that it's inaccurate. It's like seeing vikings being portrayed with horns on their helmets. They didn't. And it pisses me off when i see it.

Oh yeah and gas the kikes race war now.

>>81930495
The other settings will be kept mysterious until Christmas, when the new female Doctor will say:
>It has three settings!

Chibnall's tribute to Moffat's best episode.

>>81930312
>he believes that history books tell the truth
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>81930314
Black women are globally regarded as the least attractive so can't do much better.

>>81929977
Maybe they didn't mean for it to be a reference to anything, but knew people would come up with all sorts of fan theories whatever it said, so just avoided that entirely.

>>81930314
Pearl is fit as fuck m8. What you on?

What was the Hartnell era reference in this episode?

Blacks are 1% of the UK population TODAY

Anyone arguing that DW's HISTORICAL demographic makeup is accurate is either a we wuz nigger or an amerilard

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>this is a 10/10 in Britain

why do you all care so much about black people and they're representation on tv? you're probably a straight white male, more privileged than you could ever think, and still care about the historic accuracy in a show about a fictional alien that travels to fictional places with his fictional time machine

>>81930538
The BBC is terrible at diversity, when it does 'diversity' it means black people from the same handful London postcodes.

Its effectively more homogeneous than a Bullingdon Club charabanc outing.

Its easier to understand the BBC in terms of it being more focused on London than it is on race.

^
gr8 b8

>>81930697
3% according to the 2011 census

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>>81930803
This is Stacey Dash's hand.

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>>81930761
You are lying to yourself if you think you wouldn't bury your face in her THICC.

>>81930803
>show about a fictional alien that travels to fictional places with his fictional time machine
and there's your problem. If you want fantasy then send them to a Earth like alien planet, don't put them in a real historical setting and turn that into fantasy.

does anyone remember that ginger man on you tube that made reaction videos.?

he died.

>>81930803
i'm a straight white male and i live in a box room and clean shit for a living for less than a grand a month, where's this fucking privilege I apparently have so much of?

>>81930538
>outside of the major cities
But that's just the point. The episode is set right in the middle of London, not "outside of the major cities". In other words, exactly where all the freed slaves were living in that era.

And it's also right in the era when the number of black people was at the highest (until maybe the modern day). By the turn of the century, it had been firmly legally established that any slave who could get to England would be freed, but it wasn't yet legally clear until 1821 that they would remain free if they emigrated to the colonies.

And people at the time even wrote about how surprised they were by how many black people were out at the frost fairs. Because most of them were spontaneous, unplanned events, they ended up with every stratrum of society mixing with the others.

Although most people at the time didn't distinguish between black, north African/middle Eastern, and Indian, and many of them would have been surprised by just seeing more than a handful, so it's hard to tell from that how prevalent they were, I'm willing to bet that it's enough that you, also, would have been surprised.

So you really are complaining about a "historical inaccuracy" that doesn't exist, just because it doesn't fit your preconceptions.

>>81930975
RIP in peace

>>81931014
do you remember his name, I forgot.?

>>81931047
redbeard

>>81931077
>redbeard
thanks

>>81928100
>And why just not take the mood badges? No mood badge, no monitoring
I'd imagine that refusing a mood badge would mean the robots couldn't register you as happy. If they detect an absence of happy that means you get to become fertilizer.

One minor thing that bothered me a tiny bit about the episode.

They went to the trouble of post-processing out most of the obviously-modern fixtures at the City of Arts and Sciences to make it look even more futuristic, but they missed a few. You can see what are obviously present-day sodium street lamps in one shot, and there's a cable run that appears in one shot but not in two others (and I don't even know why they removed it, because it looks futuristic enough).

Again, only a tiny thing. But… were rushed in post or something? (If so, I guess that makes it even more impressive that they did as well as they did, but you'd hope after all these years Moffat would have figured out how to deal with production schedules and BBC budgets and all that shit.)

>>81931002
>And it's also right in the era when the number of black people was at the highest (until maybe the modern day)
>freed black slaves were at a higher level than the post-west indies migration of the 1960s

Are you retarded?

>>81931154
How would you detect an absence of something that you can't measure is or isn't there in the first place?

They go strictly by the mood things, anyone that opts out, they can't see as happy or sad, they don't register whatsoever.

>>81931306
>until the modern day
>but what about the modern day?
Duh...

>>81930993
1) Privilege is on a systemic level, rather than necessarily individual level. Overall, society systematically favors straight white men, even though individually there may be outliers.

2) Compared to a minority individual in your situation, you still have more privilege of getting out of the situation. It's not that you don't have it bad. It's that a minority person in your situation, would have it even worse, because they would have to deal with the biases of being a minority, on top of your issues.

3) If you're in Britain instead of the US, it might be more complicated, since classism seems to be more important in Britain than in the US.

>>81931002
>So you really are complaining about a "historical inaccuracy" that doesn't exist, just because it doesn't fit your preconceptions.
>doesn't post a single citation

THE FUCK?

REDBEARD DIED?

WTF?

>>81930933
Capaldi looks like my grandmother.

>>81931335
>1960s
>modern day

So this is the power of WOKE history...

This episode was kino until the ending.
Also holy shit Murray Gold has never been this GOAT before, I hope they keep him around for series 11, and the DP as well.

>>81931002
In the early 1800's the main ethnic group in london was white british, followed by the irish, followed by french, italian, german and spanish refugees, followed by small communities of chinese people, and black and indian sailors.

They just weren't that big of a presence.

>>81931312
>How would you detect an absence of something that you can't measure
That's the very essence of being unable to detect something. Look at it like a percentage. Whenever the robots detect a lifeform, they might anticipate seeing 80-100% happiness. Anything less than that raises concern, then goes into execution mode. If they find someone unreadable, they might come up as 0% happy. So the robot tries to give them a meter to verify if that's true or not. If the person refuses the meter then that means they have something to hide, or that they're staying at below 80% happy.

>>81931377
Yeah he hanged himself from a tree
Pretty rad eh?

>>81931002
>probably about 100 black people in total
>WE WUZ EVERYWHEREZ N SHEIT

>>81931490
Why would it go into execution mode?

They only attack at sadness and grief. Didn't attack for example when the Doctor and Bill were just being curious and stuff like that

They didn't even attack the guys with guns until the guys shot them.

When was the last time we saw the TARDIS fade in and out? We didn't today. Did it in the Pilot?

>>81931350
>doesn't post a single citation

Not expecting much, given that you also posted:
>>81930598
>he believes that history books tell the truth

But anyway:

https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/static/Population-history-of-london.jsp
>Following the end of hostilities at the conclusions of the Seven Years War in 1763 and the American War in 1783, a large number of black men and women from Africa, the Caribbean and North America settled in London. By the last quarter of the eighteenth century the black population of London is estimated to have been between 5,000 and 10,000. The outcome of the American War in particular also resulted in the establishment of a large American loyalist community, both white and black.

First thing that comes up if you ask Google for the number of black people in London in the 1810s. Of course it's a few decades off, but you can see that it's definitely not "probably about 100 black people in total". It's nearly 1% of London, not "less than 0.1%".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8O2sIh0yq8
Capaldi:
>And also I like when one adventure is connected quite directly to the next one because then that suggests that when the next one is not connected, that there is a chunk of time in there in which anything could have happened, in which a spinoff series could have happened.

Is he looking forward to Big Finish?

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>>81931585
>They didn't even attack the guys with guns until the guys shot them.
I could have tried to argue the first part but yeah this is a really good point. Never mind, I'll go fuck myself. I got nothing here.

>>81931585

>They don't recognize Rage
>The new colony endures by becoming /v/

>>81931409
my thoughts exactly

Will Bill be Capaldi's signature companion? The one he'll turn up with in multi-Doctor episodes to come?

>>81931870

No, that'll be Missy