>forcing myself to watch this its so bad

It's about that hour of the night that I get ISP banned because all the autistic pedophilic/gore/pornographic posting.

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>>81901691

i feel you dude. people irl badger me to watch it constantly and even the little bits i've seen i had to suffer through. watching this shit show is bad enough but on top of that you lose respect for the people who recommend it

>>81901691
Mods are finally deleting all of these. Thank fucking Christ.

Then don't watch it?

Reminder that this show was going to originally be called "Doc and Marty" and was intended as a spinoff of Back to the Future.

>>81901899
That's not true.

>>81901997
http://rickandmorty.wikia.com/wiki/The_Real_Animated_Adventures_of_Doc_and_Mharti

>>81901799
okay i found the first genuinely funny part, 5 episodes in, i guess they finally got a decent writer

>>81902047
Yes I'm aware of this. A couple of things that are false in your post:

1. "Doc and Marty" when it's Doc and Mharti
2. It was never "intended to be a spinoff of Back to the Future". Merely a parody.

>>81902105
Those are some pretty semantic corrections to make

>>81902170
How about wording your post much better next time. Especially something like: "intended as a spinoff of Back to the Future."

That's just an outright false statement. Idiot.

>>81902209
We'll let the judge decide, I'll see you in court.

>>81902230
Retard.

So did we figure out the meaning of life and whether there is no god yet, can someone give me a quick rundown

>>81902209
>>81902243
You must be a ton of fun at parties

>a wacky grandfather and his grandson go on adventures
What's not to love?

>>81902284
Well this is 4chan and I reserve the right to shit on stupid posts like >>81901899 all I want.

>>81901691

It's a great, feel-good show, fag

>>81902286
>a miserable grandfather teaches his optimistic grandson to be miserable too

>>81902353
Sounds funny, what's the objection? You're never to young to learn.

>>81902353
its more like cynical passive aggressive show, which is why redditors love it so much

also you notice every episode mocks society at large and takes being a contrarian edgecase to a whole new level

>>81902416
So why doesn't Rick just commit suicide if he hates life and hates god and hates everything and everyone?

>>81902170
There's a pretty big difference between a spin-off and a parody

>>81902484

Why does /tv/ still watch TV shows and movies if they hate them all so much?

BUUURRRRP DUDE SHIT ON THE FLOOR I'M PICKLE RICK MORTY BUUUURP GET SCHWIFTY WITH MULAN SAUCE WUBALUBADOODOO POOPY PANTS SHIT FUCK BUUUUURRRRRP

>>81902267
1.) There is no god, Morty.
2.) Szechuan sauce

>>81902589
>TV SHOWS AND MOVIES DONT EX-*buuuurp*-EXIST MARTY. THERES NO POINT TO ANY OF THIS AND LIFE IS HOPELESS AND MEA-*buuuurrp*-NINGLESS

lol what a funny show

>>81902284

hi redit

>>81902484
That sounds quite a bit less funny.

>>81901899
Doc and Mharti was a one-off, it was never intended to be a series

>>81902663

I didn't compliment or bash the show, I just made a joke about tv. Why so triggered,

>>81902715
It couldn't possibly be any less funny than a cranky old douchebag walking around telling people they should stop believing in things

>>81902805
Have you even watched this

>>81902861
Once or twice.
>Tells his 8 year old grandson that life is meaningless and there's no point in anything
>Goes to an alien planet
>Tells aliens that life is meaningless and there's no point in anything
>Invents sentient robots
>Tells robots that life is meaningless and there's no point in anything

It's just a miserable sack of shit spreading his own personal existential crisis to anyone that comes into his life. Woo how hilarious.

I know people like this in real life, and they are anything but funny to be around.

>>81902985
Sounds funny. Maybe if you don't like it just don't watch it?

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WE BELIEVE IN NOTHING!

>>81903021
>Sounds funny. Maybe if you don't like it just don't watch it?
Maybe if you don't like my comments, then just don't read them?

>>81903089
That must be exausting.

I just watched Rick and Morty and I spent the entire series repeating the words "This is 4chan, this is shitlords, this is 4chan, this is shitlords..." under my breath.

I fucking hated it. I was writhing around on the floor in, I mean, like, front of my sofa, like, for the last 30 minutes it was so painful. Ugh!

>Ayy politically incorrect meaniness scientist

If you liked it you're in the wrong place, go to r/rickandmorty with me where us, gentlemen of the new generation can mock this piece of dirty evil 10s.

>>81901691
I watched one episode and died of leukemia

>>81902170
Spin off implies it would involve the same character and would play everything straight.

>>81901691

You really do need to get into the mindset of the faggot atheist Redditor to understand why this show is so popular. These people have never heard of adult animation in their lifes that wasn't stuff like Family Guy, it was completely alien to them. And they can't laugh at these shows because they consider these shows stupid. They want a show that isn't necessarily smart or funny or well-written, but that appears to be to appeal to their surface-level taste. Because these people live for that mindless self-validation. They don't actually understand what makes for good writing or good comedy, nor have they ever picked a book about physics. They want to pretend they do so and circlejerk themselves, that's what matters. Rick and Morty is just perfect for its demographic: these same college-age self-important Bernouts who "fucking love science". The entire foundation of the show is built upon the dichotomy between "silly sci-fi humor and references" and " things are super deep and tragic bro". This pseudo-intellectual "nothing even matters, I'm insecure about existence, we are all going to die" bullshit that R&M shits out in almost every episode is what appeals to it's audience. The show doesn't actually have the tact to even begin to offer an interesting presentation and discussion of any philosophy, so it spouts these edgy teenage catchphrases. Nevermind the bean-headed, noodle-limbed unexpressive character design, or how the story is non-existent and only comes up when the writers beg you to feel something for these characters so devoid of substance, or how the entire show is a trendy forgettable scenario of the week memefest with just enough sci-fi references to trick kids into thinking they are smart for understanding them, or how the characters have somehow been reduced to even more obnoxious caricatures than before, none of these things matter. What matters is that it appeals to the millenial redditor audience, and that's what's selling Rick and Morty

>>81902985

It's not so much that it pushes atheism, it's that it bashes Christianity.

There's an episode where Rick goes to Israel, and he says nothing about Orthodox Jews despite 18 minutes of the previous episode being a hateful monologue calling Jesus a faggot.

Anyway in the Israel episode he frequently states that Jews are 'God's chosen' and better than 'the dirty rat goyim'.

It really shocked me.

>>81902047
>>81901899
>and was intended as a spinoff of Back to the Future

Doc_and_Mharti not Doc and Marty

a parody time travel series not spin-off

>>81904511
I have to laugh every time I see somebody criticizing great television shows made for us normal people who actually leave our house to interact with other normal people. Fuck these autist cunts in their fedora-wearing asses. It's like some unwritten rule in their pathetic notebook that they have to be miserable at everything, that the world is "shit" and everything they hear or see is "shit" and the agenda of everyone is "shit".

We get it. We watched that South Park episode, too. You have Asperger's Syndrome. Now drink some whisky, lighten the fuck up and seek help for it. You're not the only one in that boat, bucko.

WE rule this board, now. WE decide who's cool and who's not. You rock spiders clinging to the 4chan of the past? The ones that yearn for Bela Tarr marathons while you lick Dorito crumbs off of your fingers and weep for "being born in the wrong generation"? You're archaic. You're ancient fucking history. You've been left behind.

Come out of your basement, you cave-dwellers. Come and celebrate the new millennium by watching Rick & Morty with the rest of us. It's and we have cake. Even though it's a lie.

>>81902559
this

>>81903021
>sounds funny
Do you happen to be 12 years old.

*BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURP* L-LISTEN MORTY GOD ISN’T, GOD ISN’T *BUUUUUUURP* REAL M-MORTY, YOU KNOW ALL CHRISTIANS ARE, ARE STUPID MORTY *BUUUUUURRRRRRRRP* REAL MORONS MORTY, CHRISTIANTY IS JUST A, JUST A *BUUUUURRRRRP* COPING MECHANISM FOR LIFE MORTY *BUUURRRRRRRRRRRRP* NO ONE EXISTS FOR A REASON M-MORTY *BUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRP* THERE IS NO H-HEAVEN OR HELL MORTY, DO WHATEVER, DO WHATEVE *BUUUUUUURRRRRRRP* YOU WANT. AND FUCK REPUBLICANS TOO MORTY *BUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRP* T-THEY’RE BASICALLY NAZIS MORTY *BUUUUUUUUUURP* B-BASICALLY NAZIS, RACIST, RACIST SCUM MORTY *BUUUUUUURP* GOTTA GET THAT, G-GOTTA GET THAT MULAN SAUCE MORTY *BUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRPPPPPPPP* GOTTA GET IT MORTY, THAT’S A-ALL THAT MATTERS MORTY IS THAT *BUUUUUUUUUURP* IS THAT M-MULAN SAUCE *BUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRP* THAT SZECHUAN S-SAUCE MORTY *BUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRP* LOOK M-MORTY LOOK I’M *BUUUUUURRRRRPPPP* A MULAN SAUCE, A MULAN *BUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRP* SAUCE PACKAGE M-MORTY I’M *BUUUURRRRRRRP* MULAN SAUCE RICK, I’M MULAN SAUCE R-RICK *BUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRP* MORTY GOTTA, G-GOTTA GET *BUUUUURRRRRRRRRPPPPPPPPPP* SHWIFTY MORTY, GOTTA GET SHWIFTY IN *BUUURRRRRP* HERE MORTY, G-GOTTA *BUUUUURP* SHIT ON THE FLOOR, S-SHIT ON THE FLOOR *BUUUUUURRRRRRP* MORTY SHIT ON THE F-FLOOR *BUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRPPPPPPP* WUBBA-LUBBA-DUB-*BUUUUURP*-DUB M-MORTY SHIT ON THE *BUUUUUUUUUUUURP* FLOOR MORTY *BUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRP* LIFE IS MEANINGLESS, M-MEANINGLESS *BUUUUUURRRRRRRP* MORTY THERE’S NO P-POINT TO ANYTHING *BUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRP* THERE ARE NO GODS M-MORTY *BUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRP* NIHILISM MORTY *BUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRP* THE SOONER YOU U-UNDERSTAND IT THE *BUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRPPPPP* THE BETTER MORTY *BUUUUUUURRRRRRRP* I WANNA BANG YOUR SISTER MORTY *BUUUUUURRRRP* I W-WANNA BANG *BUUUUUUURRRRRP* YOUR SISTER *BUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRP* MR POOPIE BUTT M-MORTY *BUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRP* WUBBA-LUBBA-DUB-DUB GOTTA GET SHWIFTY *BUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRP* MR POOPIE BUTT *BUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRP* SHIT ON THE FLOOR *BUUUUUUUUUUURP*

>>81903021
IT SOUNDS LE FUNNY, DUDE. LOOOOOLLLL

I think Jerry is hands down the most interesting character on the show even if they try to make him a pathetic whelp archetype. I think they realized they accidentally created a good character because the first episode of S3 Beth divorces him. Any further development would have gotten in the way of the BURRRRP MEMES WABALABA NEIL DEGRASSE TYSON NOTHING MATTERS BRO

the redditors coming out of the woodwork to defend this bad show

>>81905181
Jerry is definitely coming back and he will be much better off than Beth.

>>81905337

This show is the ultimate pleb filter. If you like it your opinion is automatically shit.

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I find it hilarious that people on this site think their opinions matter. You're probably some retard who thinks memes are funny, probably an alt right /pol/erina social justice warrior with an I Q around room temperature, and you post your opinions like they matter at all. The show is very good, as agreed upon by people superior to you in every conceivable way.

>>81905483
What if you like Mr Meeseeks.

>>81904715

My favourite episode.

>>81902985
Are you insecure because you're worried people like that are correct and the only reason you believe otherwise is because you're unintelligent? That is the case, by the way. You're a moron, and the show features a smart person reacting to a world full of morons like you.

>>81905634
So true, religion is for chumps and idiots.

Edit: thans 4 le gold, kind sir

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>>81905541

>The show is very good

>>81905659
I mean, it is, and regurgitating rehearsed buzzwords and damage control phrases doesn't change that. You're stupid if you think there's a magical cloud palace that your magical soul floats off to after you're dead. Believing that makes you a retard, the same as believing astrology does or tarot cards or whatever other nonsense morons eat up because they have no capacity for critical examination whatsoever. You're retarded, that's really all there is to it. You're stupid.

>>81905634

>worried that's he's right

Not at all. Nihilism is so absurd that it's not even likely to be plausible.

The problem is that some faggot Reddit show pushes these positions as fact and offers no substance, and then redditors eat that shit up and parrot it.

It's not the show we have a problem with, yeah it's awful but there are plenty of awful shows, it's the fans that champion it as some sort second-coming, and think that it's deep when it really offers no substance at all. As it's a gay fucking cartoon for Redditors.

>>81905700
Thank you leftist.

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>>81905700

The problem with that (((argument))) is that no natural laws can explain the existence of anything. There is no cause for a beginning or the organization thereafter.

If there is a beginning there has to be a cause. We know there was a beginning. We also know that nothing creates nothing. So why is there anything at all?

Not only does the universe exist but it is finely tuned for our existence.

The multiverse and computer simulation theories exist to explain away this paradox. They are based on zero facts. There is no evidence that supports these theories.

Occam's razor would suggest it was created by intelligence that exists outside of time.

>>81905700
Lel. So frkn true, bro/ There is no God. Only... Szechuan sauce.

>>81905700

>he thinks the atheism fairy exploded nothing into everything, for no reason, and had it magically form sentient life

That's just sad Reddit.

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>>81905700

Reddit: The Post

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>>81905700

>whatever other nonsense morons eat up because they have no capacity for critical examination whatsoever.

>>81905744
>nihilism is absurd

It's absurd that your chunk of matter no different than any other chunk of matter has no purpose? Are you retarded?

>>81905760
It's hilarious watching actual clinical retards pretend to be smart by repeating shit they've read elsewhere, minus any comprehension.

>>>/pol/

>>81905834
Poor guy. I can see the appeal of the life he thinks he's living, but there's no way any of that pans out for him, except maybe Devry takes all of his money and puts him in crippling debt.

>>81901691
It's amazing how quickly threads like these get bumped by butthurt reddit and memey fans.
Can we have a designated OP who keeps making threads about how shit rick and morty as sort of containment threads so the rest of /tv/ won't have to deal with the reddit menace?

yeah it trys way too hard to be edgy mixed with random, one rant from master shake was funnier than a whole season of R&M

>>81905541
But I'm a libertarian socialist and I hate reddit and memey

>>81905852

I'm a chunk of matter than can ascribe purpose to many things, and a chunk of matter than has a clear metaphysical presence (i.e the ability to gauge and measure abstract non-physical ideals such as empathy or mercy). This knowledge and measure of the metaphysical implies there are further metaphysical ideals I can ascribe to.

There is a fundamental difference between me and a rock.

Atheist logic, ladies and gents.

>>81905898

Leave your argument on Reddit, kiddo?

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When will you plebs realize that rick and morty is pro-religion and anti-nihilist?

>>81905898

>Says the person parroting ideas he's heard on r/atheism who is unable of defending his position

Poetry

>>81905987
>fundamental difference

Fundamentals is exactly where there is no difference, you fucking imbecile. There is no actual difference, just the illusion of one. Your meaning is entirely an invention.

>>81903134
He didn't say he didn't like your comment. lmao be less defensive.

>>81906067
>illusion
>concedes not only truth, but lies as well

hilarious. Tell me, what medium does truth exist in? How can I observe its properties, scientifically? Seems kinda invisible to me

>>81905760

>We know there was a beginning.
Citation?

>We also know that nothing creates nothing
Citation?

>Not only does the universe exist but it is finely tuned for our existence.
>can die from a thing we require to live
>finely tuned

You are a piece of shit.

>>81906067

Do you deny the metaphysical and can you subjectively prove to me that abstract ideals such as truth, mercy, etc are illusory?

You seem to be positing a lot of opinion as fact, with nothing to back it up.

>>81906120
Are you really so stupid that you believe at some point along the evolution of living organisms from "single-celled" to "homo sapien," some magic popped into existence that created objective meaning? Are you really that gullible and uncritical? The very, very obvious conclusion is that the complexity of the brain creates the illusion of "I'm special" as utility for survival. You aren't special, you're going to die and rot in the ground. Eat shit cunt.

>>81905760
Your retarded pasta is not even loosely a reply to the quoted post.

And no, the multiverse theory wasn't develop to explain away "fine-tuning", it was developed as a model from cosmic inflation (which has plenty of evidence behind it), which was postulated before the fine-tuning argument even existed.

Stop copy pasting garbage

>>81905987
>we can think about mercy
>therefore physicalism is false

Kys

>>81906191
>some magic popped into existence that created objective meaning
hardly, I'd argue that would be impossible, Objective value existed before the universe, which leads us to another Source, which you cannot quantify
>the very, very obvious conclusion is that the complexity of the brain creates the illusion of "I'm special" as utility for survival.
which then disproves the assumption life isn't special. Against the forces of entropy, which is the death of all systems, not only does it struggle on for billions of years, it manages to become more complex, by factors unimaginable. The notion that their even is a utility inherently separates it from any other system. That it is so obsessive over its self-preservation bolsters this.

>>81906143

>There was a beginning

There was a beginning because there is time. As time is monodirectional (variable depending on factors like gravity I'll grant, but still moving in one direction), therefore time tracks backwards to an original point. The beginning of time therefore was the first possible moment in this physical universe. Therefore a beginning.

>we know that nothing creates nothing

The second law of thermodynamics states that matter or energy can neither be created or destroyed, only changed from one state to another, and that any entropy in an enclosed system will increase until an eventual point of uniformity. Under the current physical system our universe operates under the creation of matter is impossible.

>finely tuned

The weakest point I made, I'll grant you. But not just what we need to live, everything from the fundamental forces gravity, weak nuclear force that governs the different molecules in our body, etc. Our existence is literally a ballet of improbability. And yet here we are.

>you are a piece of shit

Not an argument.

>>81906191

The Truth (and by that I meant moral truth, which is eternal and linked to God) has always been there. Even when we were evolving.

The Church has long held that evolution was the physical process that God used to cause the physical creation of Man. At some point however the addition of a Soul to the rising ape that was pre-man was when we were able to fully apprecialte God's truth.

The genesis of the Soul, and therefore the elevation of man from the physical to the metaphysical, was a divine act.

>the very very obvious conclusion is the complex brain creates the illusion of I'm special as a utility for survival

Demonstrably untrue for the soldier who throws himself on a grenade to save his comrades, or the person who dives into a river putting themselves at risk to save a stranger. The abstract and metaphysical elevate us from animal.

Its most powerful expression is summed up in the words 'Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends'.

The huge differences which can be observed between Christian societies and all others, even in the twilit afterglow of Christianity, originate in this specific injunction.

>>81901691
It really is great, even more, worth it because you start appreciating so many new and exciting memes.

>>81901899
Big if true

>>81906005
It's neither nor the reverse, it's just a cartoon.

>>81906303

>There was a beginning because there is time.
Not proof.

>As time is monodirectional (variable depending on factors like gravity I'll grant, but still moving in one direction), therefore time tracks backwards to an original point
Still not proof, what original point?

>The second law of thermodynamics states that matter or energy can neither be created or destroyed.
Cool, now define nothing in terms of the cosmos.

>Not an argument.
Didn't say it was, idiot.

>>81906381
god isn't real though

>MORTY DID YOU *burp* KNOW DID YOU KNOW T-T-THAT DISNEY IS MAKING A *burp* MULAN REMAKE DO YOU REMEMBER MULEN MORTY? DO *burp* YOU?
>DID Y-Y-YOU KNOW MORTY THAT DAN *burp* HARMON ALREADY WORKED W-WITH DISNEY DOING RESHOOTS F-FOR DOCTOR STRANGE MORTY
>gee rick I'm not following
>GET SCHWIFTY MORTY WITH SZECHUAN *burp* SAUCE ONLY IN MCDONALDS AFTER WATCHING SOME G-GOOD DISNEY MOVIE MORTY

>>81906445

That's some mighty fine goal post shifting, Reddit, but I'm sure if you re-read my post you'll see that I logically assert my position. Feel free to refute any individual point with your own position, and I'll address it, but I'm not going to write another long post only to have you greentext a sentence and act as thought that's a valid argument.

For what it's worth I'd like you to make an argument based on a position. I like arguments like this.

Eh I like it. Infinitely better than the crapshow Archer has become

>>81906513
You're arguments are terrible, you're just making blind assumptions about the nature of reality and pretending they're true. Oh wait, that's always the basis for religiosity and spirituality. Any first cause arguments then begs the question of what created the first cause, which religious people actually believe they can just wave away because they're not intelligent people.

>>81906588
> first cause arguments then begs the question of what created the first cause

An eternal source has no first cause, by its nature. Its causality inherently extends back into infinity. For the concept of God, which would exist outside of time, causality would not be possible.

>>81906513

>I logically assert my position.
No you don't.

My position is basically, if we can't prove either way we need to investigate. Humans don't know either way if there is a beginning or end of time at least not yet. We can track as far as back as data allows but that doesn't mean that there wasn't something before that.

>That's some mighty fine goal post shifting
Let me know when you define nothing and when existence was full of it.

>>81901691
Why has cartoon quality degenerated so much in these years (as in art and animation)? In the past cartoons were so vivid and able to express feeling without words, now you need to make extremely silly faces and loud dialogue because the ugly simplistic drawings cant express emotion without it.

>>81906588

>Any first cause arguments then begs the question of what created the first cause,

Physical laws state that matter or energy cannot be created, therefore the only thing that could be responsible is the metaphysical. That's fairly logical.

And as bad as you like to pretend my arguments are Reddit, you don't seem to have any of your own. Whys that?

>>81906697
>Let me know when you define nothing
Umm, it's literally no-thing, reddit

>>81906697

Time exists. The universe expands. Time and space are inexplicably linked, and all observation shows us that at some point, 13.7 billion years ago, time and space were subject to a beginning. A fundamental singularity. Time moves in one direction. Therefore something had to cause Time to exist.

The existence of time and the existence of God are not mutually exclusive, btw. I don't see why claiming that time didn't have a beginning has any baring on God, but that time has a beginning is fairly well documented both spiritually and secularly.

>>81906697

Nothing: the absence of something

Now what.

>>81906723
You know remember watching this as a kid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-u07UEDT5I

What went so horribly wrong /tv/?

>>81906766
>>81906761
>Umm, it's literally no-thing
>Nothing: the absence of something
Yeah great, now tell me when 'existence' was full of no-thing or the absence of something.


>Physical laws state that matter or energy cannot be created, therefore the only thing that could be responsible is the metaphysical. That's fairly logical.
If you truly are logical you would see that going straight to 'metaphysical' explanations is stupid. At what point did 'nothing' exist?

Here is what you are saying:
>>81906816

>13.7 billion years ago, time and space were subject to a beginning. A fundamental singularity
No, just because there is a singularity doesn't mean that was were 'time' began. Our data can't really be extrapolated past the Planck epoch and our data can't go any further back at the moment.

>but that time has a beginning is fairly well documented both spiritually and secularly.
Hurr tbbt is how I learned about tbbt!

>>81906975

So you're saying that time doesn't have a beginning, the current Big Bang model is wrong, and that somehow time being eternal disproves God?

Would you care to back any of those points up?

>If you truly are logical you would see that going straight to 'metaphysical' explanations is stupid.

Except that the physical does exist, and there's no natural reason for it to as it's completely contradictory to what we know of the universe, therefore the metaphysical must be the cause.

Meta being greek for beyond of course.

>>81906975

There's very good article from Stephen Hawking showing why it is sensible to say that Time began with the universe, and therefore there was a beginning

http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-beginning-of-time.html

I suggest you read it.

If you would like to cite an actual
source showing that time is eternal that would be acceptable, Mr Fedora.

after reading multiple conversations on this board, there are a lot of fucking unintelligent morons on it.

>>81907307
welcome to /tv/
get out now

>>81907307
they were there before you read multiple conversations on this board too

>>81907307
>everyone is stupid but me

you'll never guess what website you should go back to!

Reminder that the creators of this came shit posted in /co/ about how bad it was when it first started and everyone being the sheep they are went along with it.

>>81907307
Wish I could give you karma, m'lady.

>>81908515
Well they weren't wrong

>>81907218
The big bang model doesn't say it's where 'time' began you mongoloid.

>>81907306
Yes it is sensible to at some point put a 0 on a graph so you can put numbers to things, that doesn't actually mean nothing existed before the big bang though.

>>81908610

From the Hawking paper linked above

>One can then apply the theorem of Penrose and myself, to show that time must have a beginning.

>The focussing of our past light cone implied that time must have a beginning, if the General Theory of relativity is correct.

If you think you know more about Stephen Hawking about time and general relativity how about backing that up, hey kiddo.