the last kingdom

>>81872684
I already read the books and the writer tends to drag things out all the time. Is the show any better?

>>81872684
Uthred son of Uthred will save the princess duh.

>>81872699
i feel like lots of things happen every episode, it's like season 1 and 2 vikings. haven't read the books so can't properly compare. it satisfies my 90s sword adventure show hunger mostly.

>>81872684
cause it came out like a million years ago

>>81872684

>MY NAME IS UTHRED SON OF UTHRED

Every fucking episode.

This show has the dumbest protagonist you can find on a non-comedy show. Its hilarious how much of a fuck up Uthred is.

The show was alright. I hated the drone shots tho, like the ones where he was riding his horse and it would change to take from a drone that's following him from above. That looked so bad and they do it several times.

>>81872801
you mean last night? season 2 is on literally now.

>>81872751
eh i guess, will he take her concubine? i want to see how they humiliate the pretty boy.

>>81872822
>>81872757
One thing that's bugging me, in the books he wasn't a manlet and nearly as stupid.

>>81872825
dude i watched the first season like a year ago. how am i supposed to remember any of the shit that happened during that season. i mean a second season at this point is just stupid

>>81872825
Athered will be humiliated by having Uthred son of Uthred save his wife. As a bonus, Alfred will trust Uthred son of Uthred again since he saves his daughter.

The thing I dislike about the show is that Uthred son of Uthred never has a worthy adversary.

>>81872825
>81872825
alos didnt he have like a super hot brunette and then he was like fuck it
also i remember a redhead girl he grew up with and she just disappears for the rest of the season

>>81872822
i actually like how retarded he is. he's a character that would die in game of thrones in an instant, but survives thanks to plot armor. i like this, because i don't like the muh realism meme.

>>81872872
i'm liking the current dane brothers, shame they wasted his uncle and that other dane dude with the one eyed retard son.

>>81872882
the redhead is back, looks like a necromancer and has wolves.

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>>81872684
this dude was goat

>>81872882
The red head was the qt he was set up with. He left her because he was shamed in front of her by having to humber himself before a religion he doesn't believe in and the fact that she wanted to baptise their son into it. The brunette was from when he was a dane.

>>81872882
this anon >>81872926 is right, i was thinking of his sister who's also a redhead he grew up with.

>>81872822
Dumbass, Son of Dumbass is the best part of the show. It's annoying at first but becomes endearing the more the show goes on.

>>81872920
This. Best viking on the show and that other viking show.

>>81872822
>uhtred is a bad character

This is the worst fucking meme I have ever seen

He's the best character ever

He doesn't give a fuck. He's chaotic neutral, he wants the land that is his birthright, he wants women to fuck, he sure is she isn't going to be an obnoxious religious extremist, and a bit of wealth. He's a little bit wild from being brought up by Danes.

he's fucking hilarious. I can't understand how anyone can't like him unless they can't appreciate chaotic neutral characters

The thing that annoys me about this show is fucking Alfred. Fucking Odda literally tells him that he treats Uthred way too poorly and all Alfred can do it make it worse. Does he realise that if he treated Uthred better he'd actually be loyal and not ready to jump ship every time an alternate offer came along?

>>81873244
>>81873278
these. he reminds me of xena somehow. it's also interesting how you mentioned chaotic neutral, because he also sometimes feels like a player character, with all the variety in his entourage.

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>>81873209
Wrong.

close though

>>81873278
>threaten to imprison a man's brother to force him to swear an oath to you
>treat him like a traitor at every opportunity despite him doing nothing but good things
>he starts to get offended
>treat him even worse
alfred is retarded in his own special way. his wife is a cunt. 10/10 daughter though, would wife.

disappointed the nun is all boring again
Beocca is a ledge though

Sharpe >>>>>>> The Last Kingdom

same author

>>81872699

There are a lot of changes in the show for pacing and just generally to make it suitable for television.

Events and characters get shifted around or merged and the personalities of a lot of the characters have been heavily altered. Uthred himself is something of a hothead antihero who frequently does stupid or bad things.

But, its worth watching.

>>81873244

People aren't used to having an antihero as the protagonist, or if not an antihero then someone who is not necessarily a person you're meant to admire or even like.

>>81873331

I feel like I'm playing Mount and Blade when I watch this show

There's even a Mount and Blade Viking DLC which feels heavily derivative of these novels specifically.

>>81872757

Vikings is trash full of trash tropes and cliches

>>81873514
True but I like the battles in Vikings they're fun. They weren't very good last season though, not enough.

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Just finished the latest episode

>That tracking shit

Holy FUCKING banana balls now that was some serious fucking kino right there

>>81873278
>if he treated Uthred better

How? Uthred has made it difficult for him to do so. You have to remember he is King. Kings don't lower themselves to their subjects level, as it would ruin their all powerful image. He would obviously love it if Uthred was more loyal, but everytime Alfred starts to believe in him, he does something stupid and makes Alfred look like a jackass for trusting him. Uthred's whole deal with wanting his birth right is also an issue. Alfred knows he will always push that issue and his loyality will always be in question because of it. Is he fighting for me because he thinks it to be right, or because he thinks I will help him win is land back? Uthred doesn't realize that helping him win "his" land back doesn't help Alfred or anyother ruler, and his only value is in his warfare abilities.

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Meant2write tracking shot of course LOL

Seriously the whole scene was nearly Children of men-tier not even memeing

>>81873535
>>81873563

Yeah it was really well done, gave a great feeling of the chaos of battle. I think this series is better than the first in all honesty.

Would you drink of the bitter waters, /tv/?

>>81873496
I was playing Brytenwalda MOD when Season 1 aired. Shit was so cash, especially when they Uthdumb just decides to form a Band with Bro Leofric and raid Cornwall for shits and giggles.

>>81873244
what's the difference between chaotic good and chaotic neutral?

>>81873615

one is good and the other is neutral

>>81873615
good acts for the people
neutral acts for themselves

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>>81873581
>>81873581
Now they just have to get rid of that fucking gayass mascara on Uthred lel

Also i counted two instances of non-white extras being used, one of them was a literal nigger (when they travel to saxon-occupied lands you can see him sitting in front of the cabin with the others and shit)

>>81873615
Chaotic Good would be interested in fighting for a just cause, just perhaps willing to break rules to do it (Jack Bauer)

Chaotic Neutral is more interested in themselves and what benefits them, and don't really care about the law. But they're not outright evil

>>81872684

I hated it because the MC went through four love interests in the first season. I'd rather they keep that shit out because it makes him look like an indecisive faggot. I know it doesn't make sense that I'm calling an alpha male who fucks tons of women a faggot, but he isn't just pump and dumping, he's constantly in the flirty stage of a relationship and opening up to every woman he sees. He's such a fucking faggot Gary Stu

>>81873674
He's a man of passions m8, he knows how to seduce

>>81873674

So he's a womaniser who cant keep his dick in his pants and falls for numerous different women. So what?

A lot of men are actually like that anon.

>>81873674
he is a medieval chad, let him bed any woman he can.

>>81873641
>this woman is 40 years old
goddammit.

>>81873674
>constantly in the flirty stage of a relationship and opening up to every woman he sees

sounds like me

>>81873641
I've just accepted that the jews have won and that everything will be fully pozzed, I just try and enjoy the battles like the autist I am

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IMDB lists her as only appearing in 8 episodes

Is she going to die during the season finale next week bros?

>>81873635
>>81873648
so which one is the reluctant (anti)hero?

>>81873761

She's a plot device to get alfred hating mercianshit

>>81873761

The season only has 8 episodes

And no she won't die because she was historically instrumental, along with others, in unifying England

>>81873782
both, but chaotic good is more likely.

>>81873790
also because she's the most attractive woman on the show and it is best to keep her in as long as possible.

>>81873551
It's not that I don't get those things. Also for Alfred it truly is an issue of faith.

My problem with the relationship between them is that Alfred still hasn't learned anything about how to handle Uthred in the ~10 (?) years they've known each other. Without lowering himself to Uthred's level, he might show him some respect, the same way he does Odda or his other Aeldormen, and that respect would go a long way. Fuck knows Uthred has done plenty of things that deserve respect.

To me it they kind of feel like those two characters who are only kept apart by """"misunderstandings"""" which could be cleared up with some frank conversations.

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>>81872915
Yet despite his massive plot armor, Uthred (and many other characters in the series) feel more realistic and human than any of the "realism-anyone-can-die-lol" Meme-Characters in GOT. Why is this?

Also: Father Beocca is great, flips of nordic throat-biters for the lord

>>81874181
yeah, i'm glad beocca got a waifu

>>81872684
Is the new season out yet?

>>81872684
They killed my favorite character at the end of Season 1 and I felt like the season was already getting a little weak towards the end so I just left it there, is the second one any better?
I enjoyed the first season initially but it started to drop off, not sure if that was just due to the MC feeling too mary sue-ish or what.

>>81874907
6 episodes in
>>81874909
i remember kinda losing interest in the last season, this season feels way more fun, but it could be because i'm watching it week-by-week and not binging it this season. uthred son of uthred is still a mary sue though.

>>81874999
I might give it a shot if it's fun again. It'll be harder to enjoy it without Leofric though, he was easily my favorite part of the series. Was much easier to enjoy the MC when he was on dumb brosome adventures with him.

>>81873761
She'll be raped and killed and Alfred will blame Mercia for taking her to the battle camp.

>>81873244
I think it's Americlaps that hate uthred. They can't watch anything unless the main character is consistently portrayed as an unfallible hero.

>>81873761
>Is she going to die during the season finale next week bros?
No you idiot, Aethelflaed was an actual figure who lived into the 900s

>>81873535
Agreed. It didn't really fit in with the usual director's style, but it was masterfully done.

>>81875080
they wouldn't dare get rid of my waifu.
>>81875054
he has some fun companions this season. there was a warrior nun but she became boring, there's a fun irish dude, a giant warrior type, a few others too.

What kind of bothers me is how long they're dragging out uhtred getting his land back. From what I can tell it's 1 shitty fort in the middle of nowhere, how on earth would uhtred not have used his connections to take it back by now I don't know.

>>81873414
Sharpe was held back by budget limitations (the Battle of Waterloo looked pathetic t.b.h.) Also the action scenes looked staged and tame. TLK is better in both respects.

>>81873341
Totally wasted this guy. Skorpa could have done great things in this show.

>>81872684
>9th century
>medieval
come on now

>>81875142
fuck me, that's well old

>>81875286
yes, early middle ages is still medieval. how do you falsely define medieval anon?

>>81875233
Part of that is Alfred, and later Aethelflaed, keep tricking him into taking more oaths for longer service.

But it stupid. His brother-in-law is the king of Northumbria and owes him a massive favour. Getting my land back would be the first thing on my list.

>>81875326
My MA in Medieval History allows me to define it however I wish.

>>81875150
I miss Halig, but I think Uhtred's "new" crew is keeping up the pace well. The Irish guy is neat and Sihtric's grown on me. I keep expecting the big guy to eat an arrow but he keeps surprising me.

>>81875365
>i have a degree in computing therefore the binary system is base 4
>i have a degree in chemistry, so the only four elements are fire, water, earth and air
social sciences man, literally no standards as evident by you.

>>81875393
yeah seriously, i can't believe the big guy survived this far, i'm sure he'll die before the season ends though.

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>its an uhtred fucks every woman in the show episode

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>it's a uhtred is told not to defile a pure woman and does so anyway and with ease episode
Honestly can see why people hate him so much

>>81875393
>I keep expecting the big guy to eat an arrow but he keeps surprising me.

You just know that one, some or all of Uthred's posse are going to snuff it in the final episode. Like the Leofric deal in Series 1. Muh bittersweet ending, and all that ...

Uthred represents what a true warlord could behave like in those times and i love the show for that, but hes weak compared to book Uthred

>>81875858
how much does it stick to the books? how are the books any different? there's too many for me to attempt to read them, plus i've a huge read-list as it is.

>>81875888
checkd

Books have slower pace and also go more indepth on the plot, the slave rescue for example is kinda different in tone.

The books are kinda short, each having like 240 ish pages and they can be entertaining.

>>81876277
checkd back my friend

i doubt i'll have the time read any, but good to know, thanks.

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>>81875393
Steapa goat

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>>81877777

>>81877777
HOLY SHTI

Why do they keep Beocca as a priest, didn't he break his vow by marrying?

>>81872684
I watched S1 and enjoyed it, watched first 2 episodes of S2 and really disliked it. Worth carrying on?

>>81873641
Kek. His fucking eyeliner kills me. Does the make up department think they are being subtle?

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>>81873414
Apples and oranges m8.

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>>81873535
>>81873563
>>81873581
>tfw haven't seen any episodes of the second series yet

I'd miss Leofric

>>81879536
>buttpirate kills woman who wants to have sex with him

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>>81874181
>ywn be the man he always hoped you would become
As someone with daddy issues, this line killed me

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>>81873761
>pride and prejudice zombies

Oh yeah I remember her.

>>81879592
She has obviously served her purpose, and now it's time for him to leave with the treasure. Money before bitches, remember that.

>>81877777
TRULY WESSEX'S CHAMPION

>>81872827
He isn't stupid, just young and naive. He made the same mistakes in the books, but he gets shrewder and wiser beyond warfare throughout the series

>>81875233
>What kind of bothers me is how long they're dragging out uhtred getting his land back
book reader here, if thats annoying for you you should drop the show right now

>>81875888
The show makes him a little weaker/more SJW

For example when Alfred first comes to his estate to check on how the burh's building is progressing he asks Uhtred why is the burh in his estate being made so much quicker than in the other parts of Wessex. Uhtred responds with something like "I hanged the first 10 people that were fucking around and not working"

>>81877777
god confirms

>>81878701
some religious figures are allowed to marry i think? this bothers me too, can someone who knows catholicism answer?

>>81878908
if you're not into it, i doubt it. it did pick up somewhat though, so if you have the time why not.

>>81880503
so show uthred is chaotic good, book uthred is chaotic neutral. sounds good.

>>81873278

It's because he's a pagan. That's why.

Common theme throughout the show

>>81879584
At least there are fewer "arselings" in the script. Got annoying as fuck.

>>81882269
t. arseling

>>81880870
>>some religious figures are allowed to marry i think? this bothers me too, can someone who knows catholicism answer?
only monks couldnt marry back then

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>>81872684
>Uhh... you're a big Viking.
>Perhaps he's wondering why someone would impale a man... before throwing him off a longboat.
>Get 'em onboard, I'll call itten.
>When Mercia is ashes, you have my permission to die.

>>81882844
huh, when did celibacy for priests become a thing?

>>81872684
>muh realism
resurecting the dead

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>>81872684
so would his son be called uthred son of uthred son of uthred?

>>81872699
>>81872822
>>81873244
>>81873433
>>81873533
>>81873722
>>81874999
>>81875233
>>81875455
>>81875888
>>81876277
>>81877777
>>81881333
>>81882844
very nice digits

>>81883041
12th century
>>81883057
what did he mean by this?
>>81883088
his son will be a main character in the show next season or the one after

>>81872684
The book is far better

After watching Lindybeige's videos on the show I can't take it seriously.

>>81883057
the resurrection was revealed to be a trick in a conversation between viking bros
>>81883088
no, he would be called uthred grandson of uthred

>>81883123
why would you need to take it seriously to enjoy it? it's a great dnd campaign that you can watch, enjoy it for what it is, magicless fantasy.

>>81872684
Why does everyone wear leather armour and back scabbards on this show?

I only watched the first episode 1 of S2. But I watched S1 last year. I think the first episode was meh.

>>81883131
>the resurrection was revealed to be a trick in a conversation between viking bros
It was revealed to be a trick when Uthred's man hung around to see "Bjorn" bursting out of his grave again, gasping for breath, once everybody had gone.

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>>81873244

This.

I love the character and how the ONLY thing he wants is his family estate back, but keeps getting dragged into world changing conflicts. He's a simple pure character and those can sometimes be better than deliberately trying to make your character deep and falling short.

Alfred's a great character too, he's annoying but the right kind of entertaining annoying. (See also Ruby Rhod - Fifth Element) I like how every time Uhtred does something good in Alfred's eyes it was becasuse of God working through him, but every screw up gets blamed directly on bad ol' pagan scum Uhtred.

the first season was kind of like a Viking harem anime

>>81873244
nice to see someone on /tv/ talking sense for a change.

>>81883680
i can't decide if i like this guy or hate him.

>>81885715
He's /tv/ personified, ofcourse you love him.

I love the banter in this show, doesn't feel forced and each character has their own unique perspective. Feels genuine.

>>81885824
>tfw you'll never invite him to your court, matrineally marry him to your daughter and press his claim on the kingdom of mercia, effectively placing your dynasty on the throne

>>81885922
You're thinking of Aethelred, this is Aethelwold.

why didn't the brothers just straight up kill uhtred in london

>>81886002

because they want to cause in-fighting.

>>81886002
they were still hoping he was fooled

>>81885958
no, wold is alfred's cousin or nephew, meaning he has a claim to alfred's crown. so if you put him on the throne and ensure his children get the throne after him, you can put your dynasty in control of mercia, provided wold is married to someone from your dynasty matrineally. not really sure what the pretty boy is about or what the marriage was supposed accomplish.

>>81886002
in-show explanation is that everyone wants to use uthred because he is a great warrior, and doesn't appear to have any strong alliances.
real reason is that he is the player character.

>>81885958
>>81886182
wait sorry, figured out what the confusion was, i mean wessex and not mercia. pretty boy is the heir to the throne of mercia. wold has a claim on wessex. i'm retarded.

>i want to be king of all england
>only 1 daughter

just fuck my bloodline up

>>81886617
jokes on you, he'll have another son, his daughter will get the throne of mercia and once she dies her little brother will have both thrones, as well as some extra land from the danes.
alfred's playing the long game, the ck2 game.

LindyBeige told me it sucks ASS.

>>81888258
lindybeige is autistic about historical realism. unless you suffer from the same disease, you should be able to enjoy. think of it as xena minus the magic.

>>81872684
>teal/orange color palette
>kino
k y s
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s

>>81886807
>the ck2 game
I always got the impression that king Alfred might have autism from this show. It makes sense now.

I like to think the syllables "Aethel" were banned from use after this time period. Everyone and their cat is named "Aethel"something.

>>81890513
it means noble apparently, i'm glad the fad is over.

>>81889747
incestuous eugenics program when?

>"hump"
no

>>81888491

I havent seen second season but I remember the end of the first.

Why was he riding into the sunset with two literal whos that never treated him during the show?

I remember that in the last episode some priest girl and some other random dude was riding with him, right before the credits.

That was so stupid.

Hilde is cool. The villains in the series are shitty and undeveloped and basically exist to get knocked down.

Feels like Bernard Cornwell actually got worse after Sharpe.

>>81890849
I'm going to bring it back. I'll name my kid "Aethelbob" and everyone will want to be like me and have an "Aethel"thing too.

>>81891643
that's nice, i'll go for aethelmohammad to merge the two cultures. this show seems to think that's a hot idea.

>>81891672
Hail the future king of the isles, Aethelahmed!

>>81873244
>Utred, stop being an asshole
>Utred raids Cornwall, betrays a king so he can fuck his wife and steals all his silver
At that point the show went from a 7 to a 9 out of 10

>>81883089
Fuck off

>>81891732
And to think he did all that just to pay off his then-wife's huge church debt, only to end up having to swear to Alfred to not get prosecuted and for her to treat him like shit afterwards. Destiny is all.

Haven't seen the latest season. Quick question - is Uthred still making life for himself much harder by being a contrarian faggot?

>>81873341
Now this was a scary cunt

>>81891834
of course

>>81891834
He'd hardly be who he is if he wasn't being contrarian, though it trends towards him still ending up right most of the time and everyone else being butthurt about it. Alfred's wife, especially.

>>81891954
god i hate that bitch, what a retarded cunt.

>>81879660
>only one (1) has nice tits
What did they mean by this?

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question time: how did this come out of autismo alfred and his pig wife?

R E C E S S I V E G E N E S

>>81882269
Leoric bullying arseling was the best thing about the show.

>>81873641
Didn't notice any non-white extras. If there were I think they would of just been there just to fill some qouta they studio has to enforce. Otherwise, out of sight out of mind.

>>81872684
that final scene was actual kino
>dem revenant vibes

>>81893438
i thought of the true detective one for whatever reason.

L U N D E N
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>>81873433
But Uhtred is exactly like that in the books too.

>>81892249
I'd fuck that chubby bitch no questions asked

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>mfw binge watching this late at night last winter, with my dinky little christmas tree lit up, snow falling outside, while drinking hot cocoa

I have never been so comfy in my life bros

>>81895348
>chubby
you mean thicc, and literally every heterosexual male would.

>>81896570
Good on them, because as a homosexual male she needs some fucking help bad.