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Wheel of Time to be produced by Sony

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Thoughts on this /tv/?

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/wheel-of-time-tv-series-sony-1202390897/
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>>81843984

I just hope the White Walkers don't look too fake
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>Sony
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>sony
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>sony
>we want the GOT audience
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>Sonny
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>>81843984
I dropped the first book halfway through because all the female characters were completely insufferable. In an time when pandering to feminists is considered profitable, and because Sony is thunderously incompetent, I'd wager this is going to range from bafflingly bad to unwatchable.
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>>81843984
>Sony
NOOOOOOO
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>Sony
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NO MORE DAMMIT

Just sell the fucking studio already, you Japs.
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>>81843984
I just hope the hobbits don't look too fake.
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>>81843984
>sony
So all white males changed to black males and white females?
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>>81845199

Literally propped up on vidya, so many faggots going HURR HURR SONY GOING BANKRUPT THEY GON' DIE and ten years later still in the game
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>>81843984
Fantasy trash. Who gives a shit
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>>81843984
I liked most of the books, the middle 4-5 were boring as fuck, coincidentally that's where most of the female-centric chapters are located, and those tended to be boring as fuck. Hopefully Sony can do the series justice (not counting on it).
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A shit book series produced by a shit company.

Figures
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>>81845368
book 4 was the only good one, and only the Perrin loses his shit and goes braveheart hunting trollocs.
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Can't wait to alter The Expanse copypasta for this
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>>81845418
First 2 and last 3 were definitely the high points in the series, I guess 4 was ok. I really enjoyed the character development of the main 3 over the series. Perrin from shy guy to monster hunting king was pretty neat.
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>>81845368
I remember the first couple being kinda interesting but the rest of them were a real chore to get through I dunno why I did it to myself
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>>81843984
I've heard this has a ton of femdom
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Remember when Columbia made good movies?
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>>81845316
They were already 10 times bigger than competitors when they propped so they'll be the last to die. Doesn't mean they're doing well.
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>>81845050
after 12 or 13 books, i forget how many there were, there was only 1 good female character. mat cauthon was the best male character and ill fight anyone who says otherwise
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They should adapt books 1-3, spend half of a season on books 4-10, then skip ahead to book 11
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Audio booked the whole series 3 times hope they wont fuck it up like that trailer they showed
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>>81845316
>Literally propped up on vidya
Literally not true
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>>81845316
Sony is good at crushing tiny companies. They're shit at competing against megacorps like them though.
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>>81845767
playstation is literally the only reason sony is still a company. leave it to video games to have to save movies and tv
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>>81845672
Mat>Rand>Rodel Ituralde>Baldhere>Perrin
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>>81843984
>BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE GOOD PEOPLE AT SONY
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I dropped it somewhere around book 7 when there was a long ass boat ride.

I keep thinking I'll go back and finish it, but there's literally an endless amount of other things to read.

He should of just ended it at 3 (4?). It was obviously written that way, considering the big bad was retconned to be only a disciple.
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>>81845825

>Mat first

this guy fucks
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>>81845672
>there was only 1 good female character
I liked Verin, Min and Lanfear.
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>>81845720
Seriously, nothing at all main-plot relevant happened in 6 fucking books, it's insane, it was just girls sighing at each other and swishing their skirts during inane white tower politics for weeks.
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>>81845852
blood and bloody ashes, we have to fight now
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>>81845850
You fucked yourself m8.
Gets really good again from like 11-14.
I think 12 and 13 were my favorites.
Those middle books are some serious fan-killers.
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>>81845791
>playstation is literally the only reason sony is still a company
Not at all true. Sony makes far more money selling insurance than the Playstation line could ever bring in.
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>>81845880
min was the one i was thinking, but you are right, verin was ok too. one of those aile women who followed rand around i liked to but i cant recall her name, sulin maybe, the chic who wore a dress for a while for punishment
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>>81845887
A lot of it is simply world-building, which I enjoyed, not everything needs to further the plot imo. But I recognize that not everyone have the necessary autism for that.
Fuck the endless kindnapping plotline though.
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>>81845936
A few of the aiel were acceptable simply because they didn't spend their time sighing and complaining about men in their POV chapters like all the others.
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>>81845825
>>81845852
hurr im not a hero
>does heroic thing
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>>81845979
You best not be talking about Dumai's Well, that's one of the coolest scenes in the entire series. We get to see the male channelers get their collars taken off for the first time.

But you might be talking about some other kidnapping from the boring swamp that is the middle that I can't recall.
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>>81845924
I do love Sanderson's writing. I'm sure I'll get back some day.
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>>81845850
>I dropped it somewhere around book 7 when there was a long ass boat ride.
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Got a third into 4th book before I had to take a break.
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>>81846022
i think hes talknig about perrin and faile
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>>81846022
Nah, that part is over with reasonably quickly and is really cool. >>81846048 got it right.
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>>81846025
READ MISTBORN ITS SO GOOD THE FIRST 3 ARE AMAZING
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>>81845994
It's chance m8, he's been deliberately fucked by fate, he just wants to go be a nobody and drink, and bad shit happens that forces him into it. It's a funny trait that makes him likable. Sort of the Caiaphas Cain of the WoT universe.
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>>81846022
>dumais well
probably the best chapter overall. ashaman doing ashaman stuff, perrin and wolves doing wolf stuff, aes sedai doing that thing to rand, i dont know how to spoiler so i wont say. good chapter
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>>81846074
maybe the battles but he goes out of his way to do heroic things for girls he barely knows like aludra and those horrible aes sedai in ebou dar
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>>81846071
not him, but i couldnt even make it through the first mistborn book. i did however really enjoy the 2 way of kings books, really looking forward to the next one
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So, casting?

I know seeing as it's a GoTesque show there won't be any big names, but who in real life would be your ideal representation of characters?
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>>81846103
rand breaking out of the box and going operator on aes sedai one by one was fucking cool
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>>81846103
Control+S
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>>81846129
Rand has to be someone really tall and he's a redhead if I recall correctly...dunno if an actor exists to fit the image of him.

Mat could probably literally be anyone.
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>>81846134

>rand and min captured
>guards slap min about
>Rand literally flips out and kills 3 guys before they get him under control again

and let's not forget

ASHAMAN

KILL
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>>81846128
give it a chance theres some great twists
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>>81846175
jesus christ that shit was cool. literally unarmed starving and beaten rand somehow kills a warder steals his sword and kills to others
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>>81846153
like this?
thanks anon
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>>81846245
i failed that one
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>>81846266
It's okay
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>>81846216

The sword styles/stances were a really neat element, Boar Crashing Through Woods motherfucker.
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Do you guys think they're going to cast actresses with big ol' titties since everyone is always crossing their arms over their bosoms?
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>>81846316
nynave has to be a chesty woman, lan wouldnt get with no stick. and mats queen girlfriend obviously would need large ones, same with that woman who was trying to nail perrin
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>>81846429
Mat's queen was supposed to be short and swarthy, going to be hard to find that AND stacked.
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>>81846492
Short stacks exist, anon. It made note of her bust more than anything.
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Binged read them to about book 10, took a break, really need to get back to it. But I was getting more and more annoyed with Rand's whole "women are the most precious beings alive, I cannot allow any to be harmed, even enemies, at the cost of me and all my loyal soldiers(male only) lives" shtick. It wasn't really there at the beginning, he even kills that one chick hunting him in book 3 I guess, but it kept getting worse and worse. It's a character flaw I suppose, and I thought he would get better about it after what happened at the end of book 5 or 6, but it seems to be getting worse. Does he ever get over that shit?
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>>81846601
I think her being short and petite was more emphasized, he assumed she was underage the first few times he saw her from afar. Her being busty wasn't brought up until like the kidnapping and wooing and such.
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>>81846621
That turns out to be one of the ways the taint is fucking with his mind, he gets over it right near the end
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>>81846071
I am him, read all the Mistborns. Great shit. Overarching plot sometimes suffered, especially between books, but chapter by chapter it was fantastic.
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>>81846492
>>81846429
Well she wasnt busty at all, Tuon herself points that out that she isn't like other women and all that they see is a small woman in a boys body, she sees it as and advantage as people will underestimate her fightning provess.
Mat points out how he usually likes busty women and finds it odd how he likes Tuon when she is the opposite to his type, not having big breasts, being noble etc.
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>>81846312
none of them made much sense except ones that sounded more literal like Parting the Silk or Plucking the Apple or something when someones head gets cut off
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>>81846621
he realizes how disrespectful it is to not allow woman warriors the honor of dying for him.
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>>81843984
>Sony
I dont know what to expect.
Is Mat gonna be a black dude?
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>>81846692
River undercuts the bank
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>>81843984
>Wheel of Time
Cool
>Sony
it's probably going to suck

What a shame
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who else is hype for
>COME AT ME IF YOU DARE SHAI'TAN
>I AM THE STORM
as rand destroys the entire seanchan army and his own men at the same time
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>>81846727
>Tuon is now Nordic
>Mat is now black
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
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>>81846792
Mat is gonna give her his tower of midnight if you know what i mean
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>>81846790
Really interested in how they're going to portray the progressive madness in all the male channelers, will it just be surface level "lol so random" or will they actually incorporate it into characters.
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>>81846680
Okay, at least there is "some" justification for it, and better late than never if he gets over it.

>>81846718
That's what it seemed like he realized at at the end of book 5 I think, with his group of female bodyguards. But then he basically backslides on the promise he made the over the next few books.
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>>81846863
It's going to be difficult to emote it and not make it sound stupid, as the way the books tend to show it is through internal monologue, which the show can't really do.
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>>81845726
>Audio booked the whole series
my nigga.
how great was michael kramer's performance? nothing compaired to my nigga roy dotrice with asoiaf but still pretty top notch

i feel like audiobooking it helped me get through it all, i dont htink i would have been able to read all 14
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>>81845791
i have a sony 4k tv...shits cash yo
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>>81846884
The whole point of the entire series is that the shadow wants to break rand, not kill him, everything they did was to that end. Killing him would eventually just lead to the pattern spitting out another "chosen one", and wouldn't have progressed their cause.
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I'm both excited and terrified.

They'll probably make Mat or Perrin black, always paint Egwene as the "right" one and the boys as completely incompetent, and probably butcher 80% of Rand's development, especially his epiphany.

But, damn if I'm not excited to see Rand declare himself the Dragon Reborn.

>inb4 the Aiel become niggers and not just tanned white people with red hair
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Hope they wont fuck it up
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this book series is unfilmable.
it's like 14 books, they'll do what, 2 or 3 books per season? it will fail horribly.
can you imagine the m-muh feminism?
Also, Lan is gonna be a woman, mark my words
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>>81847106
>Tfw no pillow friend
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>>81847204
Maybe they'd just write the entire white tower schism and faile kidnapping out of the script, that brings it down to like 6 books total.
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>>81847204
They can easily mash some of the middle books together with nothing of value being lost. As for Lan, you're being silly, his gender is kind of important to his plot functions.
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>TFW there are no black people or islam in the WoT universe

Tell me /tv/, how will they enrich the script?
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>>81847289
so you mean books 1,2, the last one, and what between? an amalgamation?
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>>81846863
>>81846895
general strange furtive glances and muttering to themselves, we didnt see Dashivas mind but we all knew he was clearly mad
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>>81847272
>>81847106

>get to the introduction of Seanchan
>get mad as fuck about how they treat female channelers like trained animals, some of them even committing 'bestiality' with them
>years later
>thatsmyfetish.jpg

I don't know how people don't pick up on all the fetish stuff throughout the series the first time..
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>>81845282

The book already has strong women characters.

You'd know that if you read them.

If you haven't read them and don't actually give a shit, go post this cancer in /pol/
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>>81847341
Seanchan nobility are black tho
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>>81847341
Weren't the Sharans black?
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>>81847341

>what is the daughter of the Nine Moons *roundhouse to the face*
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>>81847354
Sure, you could essentially just handwave away the break and not effect the end battle, just jump straight to verin revealing a black ajah and have egwene come out on top somehow from that, no need for 4 books of bullshit. Same for Faile, there were 3 books with many chapters devoted to perrin chasing the shaido that didn't effect the end and only had minor character development that could easily be handwaved away. There was SO much filler in the middle of the series that didn't progress the main plot at all, just think of how often you saw rand and mat in those books, they show up in PoV like 3 times total.
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>>81847432
Some of them
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>>81845880

>Min
>the "one of the guys" girl who follows Rand around fucking him

Egwene in the White Tower was GOAT
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>>81847420

-Chapter 24-
*sigh heavily*
*Swish skirts*
"Men, ughhh"
*Nearby females nod in agreement*

-Chapter 25-
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>>81847391
I dunno about other people, but I certainly picked up on it as I read the books the first time. The bondage stuff is incredibly obvious.
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>>81843984
>Sony
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>>81847341
>islam
Shaytan is an Arabic word that in religious contexts is used as a name for the Devil
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>>81847456
>>81847432
Weren't they supposed to be more indian brown than black?

That's what I recall from the WoT wiki, I think the blackness just came from fanart.

>>81847467
Indian, like Raj style, not feather.
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>>81846943
michael kramer does brandon sandersons mistborn series too, i fucking love that guy
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>>81847073
i mean the Aiel are kinda Arab-y
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>>81847579
They're red heads with light eyes, they just got exiled to the desert for a thousand years so seem arab-y.
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>>81847492
Egwene was one of the worst parts of the series
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>>81847579
yeah i guess the desert shoufas and clothes and spicy food through me off
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>>81847467
>>81847432
>>81847456
Seanchan: Imperial China, Imperial Japan, Persian Empire, Ottoman and Byzantine Empire. (RJ); The lacquer work of the Seanchan seems to be inspired by the Far East, the Emperor/Empress that is too magnificent for commoners to gaze upon is a concept borrowed from Japan. The phrase "Ever Victorious Army" was actually in use in Japan during one point of its history. Persian Empire: The Crystal Throne that inspires awe is a direct allusion to a Persian epic story. Ancient Egypt: pleated linen clothing, the tonsured heads, the patterns on Suroth's gown (symbols within cartouche-like ovals) which could be visualized as resembling hieroglyphics. WH provides even more cultural flavorings, including Greek names (Tuon's middle name is "Kore" [an ancient name for the Greek Goddess Persephone] and Selucia [Selucid Kingdom]), and Egyptian names (Neferi [Nefertiti]).

They're indian with an amalgamation of asian culture.
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>>81846492
not tuon, the one who made him wear pink ribbons before her
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>>81847717
Oh, Tylin, the chunky one
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>>81847673

Well whaddaya know, I got memed.
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>>81847808
You probably just saw the mountain of seanchan fanart that for some reason gives them all cornrows.
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Obviously the trollocs are black because they won't work without the deathly white fades behind them
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do you really think they would keep rand having 3 wives? gore and torture like game of thrones yes but I dont think they have the balls to actually present official poligamy to the west
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>>81847983

Eh she was bald but kinda zoe saldana/halle berry-ish.

I guess big boobed Sand Snake chick could play her
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>>81847540
>>81847673
I was taking Shara Demandreds playground, not Seanchan though. They seem to be mentioned as very dark-skinned whatever that means.
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>>81848100
Oh sorry, I misread that as seanchan with the other 2 posts about seanchan, yes I suppose Sharans are an unspecified black, I guess we won't get actual blacks in the series until the last season.
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So, who has the gravitas to properly portray Barid Bel Medar in the last battle?

Show yourself Lews Therin
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>>81847510

>doesn't post actual quotes, page numbers, or real analysis

Oh you got me, anon
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>>81848329
Oh come on, if you read the series you will know that what I wrote there happens at least a thousand times total.
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>>81848041
It's actually a significant part of the story, so it would be stupid to do that.

>they keep min as Rand's lover
>aviendha doesn't take a husband
>elayne finds some black dude to marry instead
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>TFW you realize that RJ said in an interview he based ALL the female characters loosely on his wife

Jesus I feel sorry for the guy.
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>>81848584
He obviously had a fetish for that shit.
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>>81848625
His wife managed to inspire 30+ skirt swishing physically abusive characters that do nothing but nag the nearest man at any given time.
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>>81848652
But look at Mat and Tylin or the marriage vows of Nynaeve and Lan, if that isn't self-insert fantasy I don't know what is.
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>>81848652
That's just how Mormon women are
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>>81843984

love that it's getting made, hate that it's getting made by Sony

Disney already butchered the sword of truth, i guess it's only natural that Hollywood ruins the rest of my favorite fantasy series
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>not liking Nynaeve

tugging my braid tbqh, i thought Nyn was funny with her antics

only females that pissed me off at times were Elaine and Egwene, but they had their moments as well
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>>81843984
I was just watching the old AOTS show where they announced universal bought the movie rights..
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>>81848886
>>81847510

-Chapter 24-
*sigh heavily*
*Swish skirts*
"Men, ughhh"
*Nearby females nod in agreement*

-Chapter 25-
*Tugs braid*
*sigh heavily*
*Swish skirts*
"Men, ughhh"
*Nearby females nod in agreement*
*Tugs braid*

This excerpt was taken verbatim from book 7, guess which chapter was Nynaeve
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>>81845924
Books 1-6 I thoroughly enjoyed. Shadow Rising was a bit slower paced but was kind of necessary for Egwenes arc.

Lord of Chaos was fucking epic.

Crown of Swords slowed noticeably, but was still good.

Books 8-10 were glacially paced and Crossroads of Twilight was literally "Nothing happens, the book".

I've never seen so much fluff and filler in my life. He would spend 5 pages describing the dresses of each character and how you could tell "She was from a working class family due to the cut of her dress which was obviously inferior wool from Illian" and the always used "She swooshed her skirts!"

Havent read any since 10 over a decade ago but have been pondering a reread from the beginning and finishing the series this time.
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>>81848886
>tfw you will never bury your face in Nynaeve's bosom after she scolds you

Why even live?
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>>81845936
Avienda?
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So it's confirmed that Rand is Idris Elba, Mat is Michael B Jordan and Perrin is some no name latino actor yet?
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Mat, Rand, Perrin, Egwene, Nynaeve, Elaine, Min, Aviendha, Moiraine, Lan, Faile etc.

who will they black? i'm guessing they'll make all the Aiel black to fill the SJW quota and completely ruin Aviendha

Seanchan is a possibility too, but they show up much later in the series and they have to fill the black quota before that
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>>81849001
>Thinking movie stars would do some hack Sony TV show
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>>81847657
The issue is that the Aeil are supposed to be way taller than humans and they all have a "look" to them. Not sure how they are going to pull that off.

Also the whole ageless Aes Sedai thing. I guess alot of those botox Hollywood whores in their 50s could pass off as a 300 year old Aes Sedai.....
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Important post
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>>81849116
Don't know if "Way taller" is accurate, I think it's more like in the low-mid 6' range, that's not too unheard of for humans.

The part that generally makes them stand out is the red hair and light colored eyes, whereas most wetlanders had darker colored eyes.
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>>81850577
Isn't Rand 6'7" or something like that, with several Aiel males being even taller?
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>>81850577
The Aiel are always referred to as being much taller than an average person and their women being as tall as a normal man. When was the last time you read one of the books?
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>>81850704
6'6"

>>81850771
Known measuresEdit

Rand is 6'5"-6'6" 195/198 cm in our terms, according to Robert Jordan himself.[1]
Mat is 5'11"" 180cm in our terms.
Perrin is somewhere between them, 6'2" or 6'3". 188/190cm According to the RPG, he is 'half a head' shorter than Rand.
Therava is a 'good span' in height.[2]
The RPG lists these average heights and weights (in their measures, not ours):
Ogier: 7'2" to 8'6" for males, 6'9" to 8'3" for females. (that's definitely too short!)
Aiel: 6' to 6'6" for males, 5'6" to 6'2" for females. (that seems too short)
Ebou Dari, Illianers, Midlanders, Taraboners, Tar Valoners: 5'6" to 6'2" for males, 5'2" to 5'8" for females.
Cairhienin: 5'3" to 5'9" for males, 4'9" to 5'5" for females.
Domani and Tairens: 5'7" to 6'3" for males, 5'3" to 5'9" for females.
Atha'an Miere: 5'8" to 6'4" for males, 5'4" to 6' for females.
Borderlanders: 5'5" to 6'1" for males, 5'1" to 5'7" for females.
Humans average 5 lbs/inch of height: males are 14 stone + 10 to 80 pounds, females are 10 stone + 10 to 80 pounds. Adjust for height.
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>>81850771
6 to 6'6"

It's medieval, so many of the poorer lands have nutritionally shorter people.
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>tfw /wot/ threads on /tv/ will never be comfy again
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>>81843984
>Sony
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>>81843984
>wheel of time
Yey!

>sony
Awwww....
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>>81845791
No it's not retard their insurance branche is why they're still a thing. Their gaming division makes peanuts compared to it.
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>>81847579
>Aiel are kinda Arab-y

Aiel are literally white aryan ubermench elves,
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>>81851420
>implying Irish are white
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>sony
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>>81848711
that was fking hot,
i dream of that happening to me since i was a little boy
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>Sony will produce along with Red Eagle Entertainment
Looks like their Winter Dragon bullshit worked. Harriet BTFO
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>>81849015
Lan, Min and Perring will get blacked
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>>81848652
>it's a Rianna Andomeran looks exactly like Robert Jordan's wife, has the Talent of making others' blood boil, and gets punched in the face when she tries to talk episode
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>>81849936
That's... that's a really interesting take on things. It also makes sense when you consider that the only Sedai worth a shit in the entire series, and she is based, is Moiraine. Moiraine avoids the fuck out of the Tower, and she knows what the purpose of her Ajah and stays true to it.

She's the one good academic, and she spends the majority of time away from academia.
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>sony
If they produce more blunders like ghostbusters they'll have to go bankrupt one day, right?
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>>81850844
>applying Earthly nutritional explanations to a fantasy world where there are goblins and giants and the One Power
>not being retarded

choose one
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>>81851798
>the only Sedai worth a shit in the entire series
>the one good academic
Who is Verin
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>>81848584
Ehhh, they aren't all bad. A couple of them are gloriously stacked, and if you don't want to fuck both Aviendha and Moiraine Sedai you're fucking gay.
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>>81851840
Turd Sedai from turd Ajah. Books and years of buildup for nothing. On one hand, way to leverage despair and frustration, one the other hand... fuck Verin. No, not like that, just fuck her and her entire character arc and plot interactions.
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>>81847391
I picked up on Faile's BDSM.
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>10% cool fantasy stuff
>90% feminism, identity politics, and other propaganda
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The most annoying thing is how Rand thinks he's so smart and then it all backfires and has to have other ppl save his sorry ass.
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>>81843984
There is no chance they do not fuck this up horribly. WoT is flawed, but it doesn't deserve Sony. Sword of Shannara on the other hand...Second rate series pairs well with second rate studio.
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I put these books down in middle school.
There are adults who are man child enough to read these books.
Sad.
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>>81852099
we've got a badass over here
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JUST MAKE IT ANIME ALREADY
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>>81852563
I always thought it was a pretty anime series tbqh. Has to be animated at least, GoT has a ridiculous budget and they still have the dragons show up once a season.
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>>81845880
Believe it or not, I live Nynaeve.
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>>81852563
This is a much better idea than a live action.
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>>81852616
I actually liked Faile until book 9 or so. It would have been better if she'd died in the last book
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>>81843984
>Sony
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>>81851954
If that's your interpretation it's entirely your own fault and not the actual material.
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>>81852710
I'm only at book 8 or so, just kind of took a break, but I always hated her. Not only is she super manipulative, from the get-go she's always sticking her nose where it doesn't belong. Not that most of the female cast isn't the same way, but she was particularly annoying to me.
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>>81852875
I thought the back and forth with Perrin was cute, I never hated her nearly as much as Elayne
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>>81853016
It may have been better if Perrin actually put his foot down a bit more. As it was, it was more that she would always get her way with him, but again, only about half way through, maybe things change. No doubt the others have their own issues like you said, mainly the constant bitching and superiority complexes. Still been a pretty fun read so far, flaws and all.
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>>81851825
What I said is factually accurate in the universe m8.

The richer lands and royalty are all larger than the average populace of randland, when anon said "aiel are freakishly large" it is only true in relation to the poorer lands and peasants, when even according to RJ himself there are plenty of main characters and non-main nobility that are Aiel height.
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I will never, ever get over the fact Bela dies at Tarmon Gaidon

ESPECIALLY because it was the fault of that little ugly ass shit stain of a kid
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>>81843984
Just Sony my shit up
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>>81854066
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>>81843984
Wasn't there like domatrix witches in this?
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>>81854121
from what non canon content has this been pulled
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>>81854140
Yes, but you're probably thinking of Sword of Objectivism
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>>81852563
This.

There are too many different races, magics, etc. It would play brilliantly if it was done with animated CGI like the Final Fantasy movies.
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>>81854152
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>>81854258
so fan pandering that was even used a key point in advertising of this thing
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>>81843984
>Sony
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>>81854341
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>>81845791
Sony's Finance/Insurance department is the reason why they haven't died yet.

Fucking retard. If Sony didn't have that they would have folded a long time ago.
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>>81854378
>she was thought to be dead, but unnacountably survived

8/8 lore very deep would read again
this shit is worse than fanfic
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>>81844076
>>81844888
>>81844972
>>81845054
>>81845171
>>81845282
>>81846748
>>81847513
>>81851353
>>81851381
>>81851472
>>81851810
>>81852738
>>81854355
I'm getting really fucking sick of all the retarded Sony hatred on this fucking website. They make great movies (Men in Black, Spider-Man, Zombieland) and they make amazing video games (the best game released this year is a Sony exclusive)

Everywhere I go I just see contrarian faggots shitting on them for no reason and it's really starting to piss me off.
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>>81846028
>mfw also stopped reading the fifth asoiaf book on tyrion's boat ride
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>>81854658
>They make great movies and they make amazing video games
>(the best game released this year is a Sony exclusive)
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>>81847492
That's one of the big problems with the series. Egwene gets tolerable/good 75% through the series. Nynaeve is 50%. Mat 30%. Then there are cunts like Elayne who are always shit.
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>>81854834
Egwene is decent in the middle, she's a shit at the beginning and end though.

I'd cut Elayne entirely 2bh, could give her stuff to non bitch characters
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With 10 hour seasons, what do you think is the minimum number of seasons to tell the story? I think it could be done in 7.
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>>81855373
How would you do it then? What plots would you cut?

>Cut either Tanchico/Ebou Dar
>Cut Faile kidnapping
>Cut Elayne in Caemlyn
>Cut Rand hiding in 9-11
>Cut the circus
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>WoT made into TV series

YAY

>SONY

AAAAAAAAAAAA
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
PLS NO

One of the greatest fantasy series ever written gets one chance to become adapted into a tv-series, and of course its going to be brutally fucked from the start due to Sony killing everything good...
just kill me already
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>>81855604
>One of the greatest fantasy series ever written
Lmao.
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>>81855373
7 or 8 sounds right to me.
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>>81855639
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>>81855639
>someone posted wrong subjective opinions on a Tannu Tuvan sheepherding discussion boards

I'd say top 10 for me, it has it flows, but I'm one of those persons who enjoy complex world building and intricate political schemes
I can say I hate Elayne and Faile with passion, but characters like Nynaeve and Moiraine provide counterbalance to make it even.
It's flawed, but it's also truly amazing at times.

>Veins of Gold
>Dumais Wells
>Rand walks into Tar Valon
>"You can call me Rand Sedai"
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>>81855497
i liked Rand hiding and assassinating renegade Ashaman but like many other plots they could have been done faster.
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To be honest with you famalams, if I were doing this my autism would force me to change the names that are too obviously just Realworldthing + a letter
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>>81855885
he forgot
>I AM THE STORM
>Ituralde being a badass

Rate the Great Captains
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>>81852563
Prefer this. They can save on budget and also cast characters that can voice teens for 8 yrs.
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>>81856316
“Nobody stands toe to toe with the Dragon Reborn"
that scene gives me chills. He summons thousands of lightning bolts at once and one of his own bolts knocks him on his ass and he thinks someone else is attacking him LOL
COME IF YOU DARE SHAI'TAN

other great rand moments
when that asha'man thought he was going to kill Rand in far madding and went to draw his sword but instead Rand simply stepped forward, put a hand on the hilt to stop him from drawing, and crushed his throat with his other hand
someone mentioned him killnig a bunch of warders with his bare hands already
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>>81856316
Ituralde>Bashere>Agelmar>Bryne>>>>Niall
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>>81856452
you forgot
>RAHHHHHVIIIIIN!
at the end of FoH
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>>81856454
Why do you put Agelmar ahead of Bryne and Niall? Niall is quite clever from his PoV scenes even though his plans are thwarted, he could not have predicted Rand. Also Bryne has more in text feats than Agelmar however being a Borderlander would give him better experience than an Andoran
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>>81856493
You forgot Mat blowing his way into the Stone of Tear
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>>81854658
The movie department is headed by two retards, Rothmann and Pascal.
Pascal is insane and doesn't know how to write a proper English email to save her life and Rothmann is an egotistical fool who thought making a Deadpool movie was stupid. He also thought Bryan Singer shouldn't make anymore X-Men movies.
Don't forget this is also the same studio that provided us with the unfunny Ghostbusters reboot and a sequel to the Spider-Man reboot, in which is was severely trashed.

As for vidya, fuck off. If you're saying Horizon is the best of all yr, expand your taste. Persona 5 or Zelda were fucking better than that shit.
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>>81843984

sorny
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>>81856531
I thought he climbed it? Or was that Rand
Mat has a lot of badass moments too. His crossbow guerilla tactics was fucking gruesome, he killed thousands of Seanchan with barely any casualties. Soloing several gray men in tar valon, cutting couladins head off
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>>81856525
Niall was pretty retarded to make the plans the way he did
>Live in a world full of magic and prophecies
>Dragon Reborn DON'T REAL

Nothing in Bryne/Agelmar 2bh, think we only see them command in the last battle, Bryne does better but he has tons of AS with him

>>81856625
Rand climbs, Mat uses fireworks to make a hole
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Niall was corrupted by the presence of Fain's Shadar Logoth dagger, same goes for Elaide. Even a few hours or days were enough to start poisoning their minds.

Ituralde was maybe the one great captain to actually pull of some impossible shit like annihilating the entire Seanchan Almoth front army, though losing lot of men in process, but taking out maybe tens or even hundred Damane's. A defeat that maybe cost the Seanchan more than their fight against Rand in book 8. Lets not forget Ituralde also being responsible for defending the Shadar Logoth front in the final battle; we also see Rand handpicking the best of the best with him to that battle (Nynaeve, Moiraine, Aviendha, Cadsuane..)

Bashere was won quickly over by Rand, partially due to "taveren" nature. More or less created "Army of Dragon", essentially creating a gigantic fighting force in a short period of time. (8-10 months before Tarmon Gaidon)

Bryne literally fucked the bitchiness out of Siuan, so he was pretty gud I guess. Also talked some sense into Egwene.

Agelmar more or less does nothing.
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>>81856535
I also forgot to mention that Tom, while at Fox, didn't want to do Titanic.
After it was made and released and crush the box office, Tom didn't want to do Avatar.
Any smart CEO would bank on a director that can become "king of the world". But to say no, initially, to the man who helped your studio out greatly, is a very idiotic move.
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>>81856646
His defense of Maradon and Almoth Plain campaign puts him many levels ahead of any of the other captains and on par with the Prince of the Ravens, none of them have feats that compare to those. Mat has his battles with the Shaido and Seanchan in Ebou dar
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>>81856642
I think his plans were pretty genius and if he succeeded then the Children of the Light would have power in Tarabon ghealdan and Altara
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Favorite Marillin Gemalphin scene? I liked when she fed her cats in the Panarch's palace
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>>81856765
which would not have mattered really because the Seanchan would move in and wipe any resistance anyway.
The main Whitecloak army of 20k or something was torn apart by the damane's in a few minutes.
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>>81856535
P5 is shit and Zelda is overrated. You should both fuck off.
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>>81856535
Persona is a Sony exclusive. It's only on the PS4 and the PS3.
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>>81856765
The Children wouldn't have had nearly the manpower to actually hold those gains, especially not after battles against the Prophet/Dragonsworn. His plans were over-ambitious, and he was totally unable to react to new information that contradicted what he wanted to believe
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fav moments
>"Kneel of you will be knelt" after Dumai Wells.
>ingtars last stand
>i am the storm
>mat owning gawyn and galad with a stick
>perrin torturing shaido
>gawyn taking out 3 bloodknives in the dark. hate that guy but was a cool scene, idk how he became so good with the sword, Galad always seemed like the better bladesman
>lan stepping out of his rightful place and giving Rand advice before he meets Siuan in the first book, he risked his neck with Moiraine to do this probably out of love for Nynaeave but it was touching
things i didnt like
>Thom surviving rushing a Fade
>Lan surviving the charge at the Gap and again fighting Demandred
I think heroic sacrifices are ruined if you are too much of a pussy to kill off the character. Thom shouldnt have survived fighting a Myrdraal, how is that possible? And the whole fucking point of Sheathing the Sword is that youre letting yourself take a lethal blow to finish your enemy, because you are desperate and need him to die above all else. This was foreshadowed a lot in the series and would have been a heart wrenching end. The Last Battle NEEDED some big character deaths besides Egwene. Rand Mat and Perrin all make it out fine Lan needed to die there
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friendly reminder that Mazrim Taim has been CONFIRMED to have been Demandred in Robert Jordan's notes but the little faggot changed this because he was butthurt about fans figuring out his obvious secret since he took 20 years to finish the series
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>>81857052
I thought that Lan had died at first and was rising again as a Hero of the Horn, I would have liked that to be his end.

Agree more deaths were needed, Faile, Tam, Cadsuane all could have gone in the last couple of books, and a few more that I haven't thought of. Some should have died earlier though, to raise the stakes.
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>>81857178
also, Taimandred killed Asmodean
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>>81857252
Rand should have killed Min
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>>81857178
http://www.theoryland.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=8767

"Originally Posted by RJ
b) Demandred: Hated/feared/despised Lews Therin. Like Lanfear, he plays for larger stakes than most of the others, who are trying to stake out wordly kingdoms. HE WILL SHOW UP CLAIMING TO BE MAZRIM TAIM. TAKING ADVANTAGE OF RAND'S AMNESTY."
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>>81857178
that was the initial idea by Jordan, but honestly it was better choice to change it instead to current form.

using up the majority of the Forsaken in the first 6 books would've been a bit meh, I mean Rand&Co blasts one or two in all the first 5 books

1: Balthamel and Aginor
2: stabbing Ishy
3. balefiring Bel'al and killing Ishy
4. Moghy gets slapped and Asmodean enslaved
5. Lanfear gets exiled into another dimension, Rahvin is balefired, Asmodean is killed, Moghy enslaved...

at that point it would have been only left: Demandred, Sammael (locked into Illian), Semirhage, Mesaana, Graendal...
saving Demandred into book 14 was IMO the better choice.
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>>81852875
>from the get-go she's always sticking her nose where it doesn't belong
>her nose
Is it coincidence?
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How come Ishamael, a 3000 year old Aes Sedai of the age of Legends didn't know about the trap in Callador, when Min, a fucking nobody from this shitty age read a few dozen random books and figured it out?
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>>81857363
kys
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>Sony
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>>81857363
nah
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>>81857363

eat balefire, fuckbird
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>>81857422
he wrote book 6 with taim as demandred then changed it after the fucken book was published

not cool
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>>81857444
Ishy was insane on all levels
Dark One granted some gifts, for Ishy it was the ability to "remember" his past lives, meaning he saw same shit happen Time after Time, knowing the only way to end his "eternal suffering" was to ensure DO victory

also he was perma-abusing True Source and probably did not know what was reality and what was Tel'Aran'Rhiod
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>>81845850
>the big bad was retconned to be only a disciple
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>>81857384
Yeah, there were a ridiculous number of clues pointing to it, why did he change it in the end?
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>>81857013
How much of that was down to Padan Fain manipulating him?
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>>81857765
because it was too obvious "hidden Forsaken" and would totally reveal the later events at Black Tower in books 13-14 where they force convert people over to Shadow with Myrddraals.
I mean reading first time, my initial though with Taim being introduced was "yeah he's probably another Forsake posing as someone else".
However then it was not revealed, and as late as book 9 Taim remained a mystery, "de jure" a guy on the Light side, but completely shady and mysterious and with his own agenda. Only his comment in some book about "Let the Lord of Chaos Rule" (book 11?) confirmed him as a baddie to me.

IMO those "grey characters" are what makes WoT great, it's not some totally good guys versus totally evil guys like Lotr, but a lot of different people with their own flawed agendas.

>>81858036
a lot, he was ambitious before, but the dagger influence really increased the paranoia, self-righteousness and ignorance of facts over personal opinions. (Logoth disease)
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>>81856316
>Ituralde
>Starts working for the dragon
>Surprised he is no longer completely out of supplies
>Still thinks he is going to lose the last battle but thinks he can now do it in style
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>>81856870
Rodel Ituralde managed to wipe out numerous damane with guerilla tactics in hap plains campaign, so it is possible, just difficult.
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>you will never have a tsundere lanfear gf
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Singles and I play the WoT vidya tomorrow
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>>81858356
Was Lanfear not more yandere?
Egwene was tsundere to shit Elayne brother.
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>>81858366
dodged a bullet there
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>YFW you realize the in-universe god spoke to rand directly like 3 times
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>>81858356
Aviendha was the true tsundere

Tuon was best girl though
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>>81858454
>Tuon was best girl though
Debating best girl aside, do you think she ever learned to channel properly after the last battle?
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>>81857052

>logain being healed

I just want to see this tbqh
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>>81858424
It's pretty fun actually. Although the difficulty is weird, I can't find my way in the map.
But it's fun to play around with the magic.
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>>81858121
>IMO those "grey characters" are what makes WoT great, it's not some totally good guys versus totally evil guys like Lotr

It's funny how in a series with a black and white Good v. Evil overarching story, the majority of antagonists are on the same side
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>>81858521
>>81857052
Mat inside the silver tower, although it would be impossible to get as good as the book describes it, would be amazing to see on film.

Same with mat finishing off the gholam.
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>>81858500
I doubt it, she'll probably liberalise the empire a bit regarding damane, but not all the way by herself.
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>>81858500
>>81858589
Didn't Mat ask Artur to go talk to her at the end?

After that hopefully she would reform a bit, as he would undoubtedly tell her to knock off the nonsense, and he is the only one capable of telling an empress what to do.
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>>81858121
his "let the lord of chaos rule" line was a direct clue linking him to be Demandred since in the prologue the DO is telling that line to Demandred
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>It's a feel like rereading the series but remembers how much of a slog some books were so you just read the wiki for each book episode
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>>81858633
Not necessarily, RJ had already ditched Taimandred, all the Forsaken heard the Lord of Chaos line from Demandred

>>81858620
Artur wasn't too in love with AS even before Ishy got to him. He'd admire the law and order of Seanchan more than he'd hate damane

>>81858561
>Seeing the final battle at Falme and Mat blowing the horn
pls
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>>81857576
>>81857422
not only that but he refused to cop to it. Black Tower was a perfect choice to have Demandred since the White Tower had Mesaana and virtually every other kingdom was accounted for. Shara felt out of left field, surprising but idk. There was too many clues in LoC for Mazrim being demandred, if you reread them its painfully obvious that it was meant to be him. His personality, the way Les Therin acts around him, etc
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>>81858531
various non "Darkfriend" antagonists:
-Whitecloaks doing their shit
-Elaide and Red Ajah in general, doing what they believe is right but somewhat causing shit
-Shaido and Couladin, causing shit
-Borderlanders giving Rand shit, almost making him nuke them
-Tairen noble uprising because "muh privileges"
-Seanchan "hehe, we enslave everyone in the name of the Empress, may she live forever"
-Sea Folk, eh we might help you save the world if you give us tax credits
-Elayne, "lets fugg", but HOW DO WE MAKE ANDOR GREAT AGAIN, "Hey Mat can I get your private army so I can gain monopoly on new weapons" lol last battle muh Andor
-Nynaeves braid
-Thom "heh I dont like the king so better kill him, start civil war that will kill thousands and starve even more thousands" Merrilin
-Egwene "Respect Muh Authority" Al'Vere as a replacement Dark One
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>>81857444
>>81857578
Ish was also a pretty smart philosopher, whilst Min just reads Herid Fels books
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>>81858655
My reread was just the Rand and Mat chapters. I recommend it.
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>>81858500
>Perhaps I could learn, but I choose not to, just as I choose not to steal or commit murder
- based Tuon
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>>81858751
>antagonists:
>-Nynaeves braid

She tugged that thing to death early on so we didn't need to worry about it.
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>>81858232
i remember being so fucking hyped to see what he could do with channelers and sufficient forces after using some taraboners and ragtag dragonsworn so effectively
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>>81858449
>he thinks that was the creator and not the dark one
LMAO fucking pleb
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>>81858756
This.

I started reading the series in like '98-'99
Re-read the entire series to prep myself every time a new book came out every 3 years, but after the second complete read-through I gave up on that plan and just re-read the matt/rand/perrin chapters every 3 years to catch up right before the next book came out, infinitely more enjoyable than the entire series.
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>>81858817
Defended the shit out of the maradon crossing and maradon itself despite being outnumbered something like 1000 to 1.
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>>81858811
curiously enough, best girl Nynaeve lost her braid due to her hair partially burning when Semirhage attacked Rand and her with a burst of fireballs (really, the most legendary sadistic pain-maximizing Goddess of Torture resorts of casting a bunch of fireballs???) in book 11, so she had shorter her in the last books that was not braided

see image related, Moiraine and Nynaeve with Rand, at Pit of "Doom"
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>>81846129
Padan Fain
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>>81858998
Cut Fain 2bh, lots of buildup came to nothing in the end
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I mostly looking forward to all the graphic TV-MA spanking scenes desu
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>>81858715
this really miffs my moghediens
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>>81855854

Malazan could only be animated.
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>>81859062
Honestly they could have done so much with him, he was a crazy frankenstien mixture of different evils and powers. He could have set himself up as the new big baddy after the DO was resealed.
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>>81859080
Honestly how many spanking scenes are there besides the torture lady and the dark ajah with the queen and Nyneave and Elaida and egwene and perrin and faile and all the other ones... fuck
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>>81858715
the way Taim chafes at being Rand's second. Look at how he BURNS when rand puts the dragons on his collar and shit. the way he makes a new title for himself, copies rands dragons with his new shirt sleeves, its all so textbook Demandred. Hes always been in Lews Therin's shadow if youre familiar with their history it makes sense the way Taim acts around him.
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>>81859172
Robert Jordan had to have a Molyneux-tier spanking psychosexual complex
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>>81859080
AIEL SWEAT TENTS
Rand pulling naked Aviendha from drowning
Elayne and Egwene "pillow-friending"
Tylin and her Toy...okay that was kinda messed up
Moridin watching as Shaidar Haran rapes Moghedien...

and I honestly was expecting that someone would carve Elaynes babies out from her womb, was a bit meh that it did not happen.

but yeah, otherwise it was "childrens fantasy" books :^)
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>>81843984
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Thanks for the comfy WoT thread /tv/

good night
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>>81857052
Fucking every scene with mat after the first book is worth every bit of screen time.
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>perrrin and gaul fighting off whitecloaks, gaul killing all with his bare hands
>loial and gaul going off on a bro adventure to close the waygate amidst thousands of trollocs in the forest
>nameless Tnker in TDR throwing herself at a fade to save Perrin
>Nynaeve when Rand balefired Graendals palace. She didnt turn her back on him even after the most monstrous thing hes done and she tried to put herself in his shoes afterwards and came up with "maybe hes supposed to be this hard." always had rands back even with egwenes bulshit
>Rand seeing a fireball coming at him and not moving because Min is behind him
>Dobraine resignedly charging to certain death for the Lord Dragon at Dumais Wells
>Mat "You cant bloody have her:
>perrin watching rand with all the wolves at dragonmount
>rand cutting off an old ladys head off spidey senses
>rand fighting mirror images of himself and other bubbles of evil scenes
>Rand vs Rahvin in world of dreams
>anything from the great hunt
I need to see this on television
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>>81859240
>Elayne and the sextoy ter'angreal
>Semirhage orgasming a warder to death
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>>81849015
Tuon is black yo
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>>81859593
>they have chained shadow killer
>"we come" thousands of wolves replied just that "we come" nothing more
Dumais wells has all the cool bits
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>>81859696
Indian with asian culture per RJ, the blackness came from fans
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>>81859696
No she isn't only people are retards who can't into context believe that.

Also it doesn't make any sense that black people and white people would originate from the same continent, that is also retard tier.

But because of people like you who are dumb will cause tuon to be sub-saharan african on the show
>>
>>81859617
that warder bit off his tongue to kill himself, badass
>>
>>81859727
>After Dumai's
>Witches that came with perrin think they're hot shit
>Rand notices there are more than the mandated 6
>"Your place is with them"

wew
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>>81859761
Because he couldn't handle the ENDLESS ORGASMS
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>>81859617
when you think about it, Robert Jordan might be one of the most perverted fantasy authors...
of course its about "bad guys are kinda bad" but he keeps coming up with new wicked shit

A few spankings too far?

>Therava drags Galina to the desert to be her personal toy for the reminder of Galinas life
>suldam keeping damane as pets, forcing them into bed activities
>Still not sure what Shaidar Haran exactly did to Moghedien to break her
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>>81859696
sorry m8 no she isnt
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>>81859727
>3 aes sedai instantly stilled when the box breaks
>badass dome shield that shaido get meat grindered into
>loial and perrin chopping away
>shaido battle chants
>WASH THE SPEARS
>ASHAMAN, KILL!
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>>81859696
I think the Sharans are the only actual black people, and even they are light enough to clearly see back tattoos on.
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>>81859787
lmao
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>>81859880

ROLLING RINGS OF EARTH AND FIRE!

Suck on that, bitches.
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>>81859880
>WHO FEARS TO DIE?
>NOONE I KNOW
>>
>>81857052
The battle where the children and other andorians are scared when they finally see Ogier fight the trollocs. They forgot to be afraid of fucking trollocs.
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>>81859831
>Interview: Nov 15th, 2009
>Question
>Was the passage about Cadsuane spanking Semirhage already written, or was there just information in the notes? How did you feel about writing that section?

>Brandon Sanderson
>He was given creative freedom to do what was needed. No author can ever stick 100% to an outline, things change as they are being written, and he was given that kind of control in order to make the books work. Regarding that passage in particular, it made Brandon Sanderson cringe, but Robert Jordan wanted it in the books so it stayed.
kek
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>>81859944
>tfw we will never properly see 50000 Shaidos beat their spears on their shields as they prepare to die at Battle of Malden in unison whilst singing when marching to their death

;_;
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>>81859965
>Robert Jordan posthumously inserted spanking scenes

wew
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>>81860014
>Tuon and Selucia will never rough you up
why even live
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>>81859905
>>81859843
>>81859758
>>81859746
"Skin like good top soil"
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>>81860010
Shaido leaders may be dumb but their warriors are fucking badass. They do the same shit when Sammael scatters them in little groups around the world and are attacked, I remember a specific scene with a father and son with a 1000 other Shaido getting dropped in enemy territory
>Wash the spears
>Life is a dream.
>Wash the spears
>All dreams must end.
>Wash the spears
>till shade is gone
>Wash the spears
>till water turns dry.
>Wash the spears
>How long from home?
>Wash the spears
>Until I die!
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>>81859880
>ASHAMAN, KILL!
>Yakety sax starts playing
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>>81860141
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>>81854834
>Mat 30%
The fuck? He's great after he gets rid of that dagger. The reluctant hero who runs around gambling and drinking. He even gets around before bedding royalty, twice.
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>>81860141
"Almond shaped, turned up eyes"

RJ himself said some mixture of Indian, egyptian, japanese and chinese.
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>>81860243
Keyword was "good"
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>>81860251
He's saying mat gets good 30% into the series, coincidentally about when he loses the dagger.
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>>81860971
Right before he beats royalty with a stick Then "beats" royalty with a "stick"
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>>81860971
Ah my bad then that's 100% accurate. I hated mat in the first book and he turned out to be my favorite character.
>>
I stopped reading that a long time ago.

Did Mat ever get out of that abusive relationship with that crazy lady?

Did Morianne ever come back to life like Gandalf?

Did Elaine ever find out her mother was still alive?

Did Eggwen ever take back the tower?

Did Rand ever meet his half brother again with knowledge they are brothers? Also one of his girlfriends, Elaine, is his half brother's half sister, isn't that kinda funny?

Did Perry ever... I can't remember what he did.
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>>81861092
1. yes
2. yes she literally is a gandalf copy. some other complete lotr ripoffs include :
Ogier (ents)
mats dagger (the one ring)
mydraal (ringwraiths)
haddon mirk (fangorn)
Lan (aragorn)
two rivers (shire)
i cant remember anymore right now
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>>81861092
Perrin went back to the Two Rivers, forged a magic hammer, and killed Faile with it
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>>81861277
He and the hammer lived happily ever after.
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>>81861428

Didn't he have a slutty girlfriend or something. Took pride in her ability to seduce men with an infamous sexy dance or was that someone else.
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