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What was his problem, why did not he just get a loan? he hated

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What was his problem, why did not he just get a loan?
he hated the bank for whatever, then remained their customer and still pays their fees

Solid movie, the lack of forced diversity is a bonus
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How did he and his brother turn the stolen money into cheques and back into cash without a single person at the casino asking for their identification? That's the real question.
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>>81798734
if you can vote without ID I'm not to shocked you can convert money without ID
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>>81798734
>at the casino
That's why.
>whohoo goy, look at you with all these shekels!
>Come on in, with that much money you can't not win!
>*smiles and rubs hands behind their backs*
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>>81798432
They already defaulted on the load their mother took out and the bank was going to take it.

>>81798734
I thought they did, I thought the whole point of doing it through the casino was to make a paper trail of "legitimate" money.
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is ben foster a good actor or an over-actor?
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>>81798734
there was some bullshit line, we only care about the money or something

>>81798838
from a different bank, the lawyer friend, loan shark etc.
they had like 4 different cars

also, banks can suck a fat one and should not be allowed to run around extorting people, but if you sign with them it is your fault too
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>>81798838
>>81798815
>>81798778

I work at a casino, and whenever there are huge cash buy-ins, shift managers have to be notified and identification must be presented. Whenever a large amount of cheques are brought to the cashier cage, identification must be presented.

Maybe I'm wrong and all casinos don't work the same way, but if I wanted to launder money, I definitely wouldn't go to a casino with such a large sum at once.
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Main character was too aesthetic on this movie, made kinda jelly desu.
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>>81798916
>but if you sign with them it is your fault too
so many movies have this plotline

>de bank is gonna come take my house boohooo
like banks are some dictatorship robbing people. You signed up for this, you dumb fuck
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>>81798952
your post is so white I can almost smell the mayo
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>>81798881
mediocre, no charisma /10
should play in tv shows
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>>81798984
That's an odd admition of jealousy
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>>81798952
>You signed up for this
They control the housing market and real estate in general, the only reason homes and businesses are so expensive is because banks have spent decades giving out so many bad loans and just sitting on property in order to exponentially raise the cost of home ownership same with the car loan bubble that is about to burst.
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>>81799031
>banks want to make people unable to afford the banks' property

quite the interesting model
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>>81799072
They want people to take 30 years to pay off what used to be done in 10.
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>>81799105
I thought you said they don't want people to be able to pay at all so they can take their houses
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>>81798919
This is also a casino in shitkicker Texas, it's not unlikely that places like that wouldn't bother.

I mean, they had a very specific timetable and did a lot of prep, it's not out of the realm of possibility that they'd check casinos too.
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>>81799129
Nope they want people to pay for 10-20 years, then be able to take away the house anyway once the interest is paid off and the people are old and unable to work.
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>>81799031
don't tell me that the american economy isn't based on buying a house and then selling it for 50% profit after 3 years. I've seen it too many times. The banks aren't at fault for this
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>>81799174
>This is also a casino in shitkicker Texas, it's not unlikely that places like that wouldn't bother.

I find that extremely unlikely, actually. It's too risky for a casino to not request identification after such a large buy-in. It's simply not what happens.
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>>81799180
fun fact, almost anyone with a decent job can afford a house in any state they want, it just won't be 10 mins from downtown like everybody wants it. There is supply for anyone's demand
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>>81799216
The banks fund and in some cases own the real estate companies that rely on the exponential increase in the housing markets that the banks create.
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LET THE WORLD CALL ME A FOOL!
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>>81799240
Then why has home ownership has taken a nosedive over the past decade and why do millenials own homes at a record low rate of around 30%?
https://www.census.gov/housing/hvs/data/charts/fig07.pdf
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>>81799316
because you didn't read my post. Everybody wants a house but also cheap but also nice but also 1h or less from work. Not happening. The population is rising, more people have more money and they can afford the good houses and most millennials can't. If you don't earn much and you want a house, buy a fixer upper in bumfuck nowhere. If you suddenly don't want a house, stick to renting a condo with a roommate.
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>>81799374
>more people have more money
No they don't because they are wasting interest money paying off bad loans and the wealth is more concentrated at the top than it has been in a long time.
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>>81799415
so nobody can afford a house but the prices aren't coming down

do you see the flaw here? There must be a fuckton of empty houses out there that I'm not noticing.
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>>81799415
don't take out bank loans. I still don't see the evil bank plan
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>>81799460
They are forced into bad loans or bad rentals and there are a lot of empty houses all around Detroit, LA, and Miami to name a few.

>>81799487
Then you just have to rent from a place that is stuck in a bad loan.
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>>81799523
literally nobody can force you into a loan
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>>81799523
>rent from a place that is stuck in a bad loan.
that's not your problem as the tenant
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>>81799547
The threat of homelessness and insecurity is akin to economic force.

>>81799569
The costs get passed onto you.
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>>81799582
>The costs get passed onto you.
so choose a place with rent you can afford
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>saw the thumbnail and thought it was trevor from gta5
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>>81799606
Then you live 3 hours from decent jobs and can't afford to go to work or you live in a ghetto where your life is in danger and you can't afford the insurance for all your stuff constantly getting stolen and vandalized.
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>>81799240
I live in Denver that's complete bullshit. It doesn't matter where you go. All the houses are extremely expensive and rents out of control.
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>>81799705
yeah. Tough shit. Better earn more money so you can afford a better home

>>81799734
interesting, so literally everyone earning less than, say 60k in Denver is homeless?
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>>81799748
No they are forced to take bad loans in overpriced homes they can't actually afford for 30 years.
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>>81799780
forced how? with a gun? Did they report this to the cops?
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>>81798881
hit and miss...He's either really good, or seems like he's trying a little too hard...all the characters he plays are really intense. I thought in hell or high water he nailed it.
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>>81798432
I thought a land that protagonist's parent own, got taken away because of not making loan payments on time .... That is why the brother hate the bank, not the customers.
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>>81799795
with the threat of homelessness and insecurity if you had been paying attention
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>>81799850
does the US allow citizens to leave a city and move elsewhere? If yes, I don't see the issue
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>>81798432
Hell or High Water was ok. But depressed me that we'll never get another movie as good as No Country For Old Men
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>>81799795

It takes a special kind of detached evil to become defensive on the behalf of the banks and mortgage brokers who shamelessly prey on the financially illiterate and unfortunate. I hope that one day, when your hubris has led you to your inevitable and sudden impoverishment, you remember what a cunt you were and take a minute to reflect and repent before you throw yourself from your office window.
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>>81799865
>banks only exist and run the financial markets of cities
Does the US allow citizens to opt out of the Federal Reserve and its IRS systems?
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>>81799795
This is your brain on Libertarianism. Are you really so stupid as to not understand what economic coercion is?
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>>81799921
ok anon you've convinced me. Half of Americans can't afford to live in America. I'll look forward to the imminent civil war
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>>81799316
They don't want to. Many don't want the work of dealing with maintaining a house and don't want to be tied down for 30 years.
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>>81799946
Look around you, its already begun.
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>>81799938
>>81799915
>what do you mean "I can't afford to live here"?
>I DESERVE affordable rent and house prices
>"there are people here willing to pay more"?! The FUCK is this shit! I didn't spend 3 weeks in Walmart training for some faggot dentist to take my apartment
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>>81799748
There is a lot of variance between having an affordable house in a good location and being homeless. No, it's just most people commute from 50+ miles (and especially when you're in a state full of assholes who didn't believe in proper freeways (thank you Dick Lamm), essentially adds 2-3 hours to your workday), or have shitty loans for shitty houses in some shithole house that's overpriced as fuck. Colorado Front Range has grown so much in the last 20 years, housing is shit here, freeways suck because in the 80s they had a "don't build it, they won't come" mentality, and commuting sucks ass if you actually want a house (because the only new houses being built are in shithole subdivisions built out in new towns popping up out in the boonies that used to be nothing but ranchland and rattlesnakes (I prefered when prairie dogs and rattlesnakes were the citizens of a lot of these newer towns).
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>>81799982

When "the people who are willing to pay more" are foreign investors looking for a holiday home or boomers on the verge of retirement looking for a second or third investment property so that they can shore up the hole that the '08 crash left in their pension, then yes, it becomes an ethical issue.

Dentists in their 30s are also struggling to find affordable housing. It's not a crisis that's just hitting mcburgerflippers - the entire middle class is being juiced like a prune.
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>>81800150
Sounds like a lot of people are priced out of the market. I understand that really sucks but the only thing to do is to adjust. There isn't going to be some socialist nationwide rent control scheme anytime soon.
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>>81800250

>but the only thing to do is to adjust

I couldn't agree more, but what exactly do you suggest?

Personally as first steps, I think there should be draconian restrictions introduced preventing foreign ownership of metropolitan and suburban real estate, and strong tax disincentives against using multiple properties as a pension fund.

The long-term goal would be workplace
regulations that would guarantee salaries maintained some form of parity with real cost of living, i.e. adjusted to align with quantitative easing and other forms of shadow inflation, instead of just half-assedly tacking wages to the bogus statistic that is CPI.

That's the kind of adjustment I'd like to see, and the property bubble bursting ought to do the rest to bring rent and purchase prices down to an affordable level for young, working local families.

I'm sure that you, on the other hand, meant that those young, working local families should just move out into the boonies and stump up the fuel cost for the 6-hour two-way commute every single fucking day.
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>>81800440
you're describing a lot of semi-socialist policies that don't have real political support in America, considering not even democrats would dare implement them. This is what I mean by adjust, adjust your education to the demands of employers, adjust your salary expectations, adjust your work ethic and try to become more valuable than the next guy. Or fuck employers and start your own business. But nobody is gonna come down from the heavens and lower rent in your area
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>>81800512

>adjust your education to the demands of employers, adjust your salary expectations, adjust your work ethic and try to become more valuable than the next guy

So... spend money you don't have, expect to make less money, work harder for the same money, or pray that your boss has a stroke and wakes up thinking you grew two more arms.

Those are some truly inspired suggestions, anon, so great that you almost convinced me to stop thinking about my own economic interests and kneel next to you to take my turn slobbering all over the cock of your corporate masters.

If you want to brand sensible, perhaps even necessary, economic regulation as semi-socialist and demonise the concept, that's your call to make. But you should know that the even Democrats would never suggest such a thing because they too get their lunches and holidays paid for by the same fat cat fucks who have systematically made life less affordable for voters for the last hundred years.

America needs to wake the fuck up and realise that the American Dream (TM) never existed, and that their founding fathers' code of laws has been mined out from underneath their fucking feet. Stop lying to yourself and get angry.
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>>81800748
I don't feel angry because I work hard and earn enough to support myself and then some.
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>>81800512
Banks and corporations in general are semi-socialist entities.
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>>81800801
because the government has ensured they have next to no competition. Or if you want to spin it, they've used government instruments to do that
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>>81800794

Congratulations to you, I guess, good luck when you have dependents to look after.
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>>81800794
In other words you are related to bankers or politicians who have given you opportunities most people don't have.
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>>81801000
>related to bankers or politicians
that would mean I wouldn't have to work hard, or in some cases not work at all
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>>81798881
IM ACTING
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>>81801026
Everyone thinks they work hard and most people do, you and the other rich kids of instagram just have the nepotistic connections to justify it financially.
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>>81801088
>and most people do
well there you go
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>>81801125
You didn't fix the wealth inequality of the hard workers who don't have social connections, though, you just accepted the fact that hard work is of little consequence in the scheme of things.
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>>81801290
lel, the most important person in my family that I know of was a factory manager in the 70s and then he retired. He's making ends meet but that's it
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Its a pretty great movie, I was bummed it didn't win best original script at the Oscars, but its a movie that doesn't need accolades.

Ben Foster definitely was the highlight.

>You know what that makes me?
>a Comanche
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>>81799023

>admition
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>>81798919
>>81798734
That's because Indian reservation casino's can do whatever the fuck they want as long as the Feds don't bother them because state and local governments can't touch them
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>>81798432
Are you fucking stupid? They clearly explained this in the movie. Their lawyer guy told them that when they start extracting the oil from his land make sure to hire the bank as the fund administrator and distributor so it would be against the bank's economic interest to continue the police investigation against the robbers in case any there where any leads that indicated that he had anything to do with the robberies. Next time ask mommy to watch the movie with you, ya dingus.
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>>81798432
>Think you could sneak around that ridge and Tomahawk him from behind-
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