Pick your poison.

Diesel

>>81749466
A couple of these are actually copyrighted now right?

>>81749466
Cyanide

>1 is a genre with literally three [3] pieces of worthwhile media
>the rest are nothing but DA doodles
Hmm

>raypunk
You mean retro-futurism?

>>81749466
Isn't dieselpunk just post-apocalypse?

raypunk deserves more love ;_;

Never heard of diesel or raypunk desu

>>81749466
Cyberpunk is the only one of those that's good. Steampunk is a tumblr meme, Dieselpunk and Raypunk are completely irrelevant.

>>81749466
Woodpunk not listed, will not subscribe.

>>81750093
>>81749841
The only movie that comes to mind that might be dieselpunk is Ghosts of Mars

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Raypunk>Cyberpunk>Dieselpunk>Steampunk

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Biopunk

>>81749466
>railpunk

Isn't that just retro futurism?

>>81750224
What about Mad Max? Especially Fury Road.

>>81749466
Cyberpunk. Because Steampunk has way too many fat lesbians.

>dick tracy is considered dieselpunk
what

>>81749644
You can't copyright a genre

>>81749466
They all seem like they would naturally overlap.

Just fucking call it sci-fi.

>>81749841
>>81750224
>>81750390

Dieselpunk specifically has a WW2 or art deco aesthetic, though.

>>81750154
only right answer

>>81750707

Tell that to CD Projekt Red: https://euipo.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/trademarks/010409258

>>81749466
Can you post an example of each of these genres?

Diesel and steam punk are the same in that they describe hypothetical futures where more advanced methods of energy have not been invented and are considered fantasy while cyberpunk and raypunk(retro futurism) are true sci fi that describe social systems that have not come to pass.

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How would you classify this kino?

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>>81749466
cyberpunk is called cyberpunk because its a genre about characters who used technology to defeat "the man"/ global conglomerate / authority

you cant just add the work punk to something and make it a genre
it doesnt make sense and is cringey and gay

this is a shit thread.
OP is a faggot who doesnt know what hes talking about
you are all plebs

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>>81750957

>>81750224
Maybe '9' with elijah wood

>>81749561
fpbp

>>81751142
fggt

>>81750999
raypunk

>>81750957
Steam punk
Wild Wild West
League of extraordinary gentlemen

Diesel punk
Mad max

Cyberpunk
Bladerunner
Alien
Matrix

Raypunk
Lost in space
Star Trek
The jetsons

>>81750999
>>81751187
It's actually diesel punk as the army is powered by diesel and depicts a society where zeppelins are stil a primary mode a travel.

>>81750999

This is Dieselpunk.

>>81749466
Cyberpunk

Is the Fallout universe considered Raypunk?

>>81751245
Mad Max isn't diesel punk.
It's just post-apoc.
DP has an Art Deco vibe, it's basically WWI and II turned up to 11.
I think Mutant Chronicles would count.

>>81751320

Fallout is Dieselpunk.

>>81751364
It's pretty much both.

>>81751078
Right, steam punk and diesel punk adopted the names but only describe futures based on primary sources of energy. Raypunk is totally made up and stupid becuase it's retro futurism and that has already been around so no need to rename it

>>81749466
Best representative of each kind?

>Cyber
Blade Runner

>Diesel
Sky Captain? Unless Mad Max also applies

>Steam
......Hugo?

>Ray
I can only think of 50s movies like Forbidden Planet.

>>81751331
Ahh ok

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>>81749466
Is there anything that's a fine lin between Cyberpunk and Dieselpunk? kind of thinking like Midgar from FF7

>>81751459
>>Ray
>I can only think of 50s movies like Forbidden Planet.

Flash Gordon my nog.

>Dieselpunk

Mad Max is the epitome.

>Steampunk

Hugo doesn't count. Wild Wild West is closer to this genre. City of Lost Children?

>Cyberpunk

Most underappreciated genre of all these. Blade runner basically wins by default.

What else is there? Johnny Mnemonic? Lawnmower man? Tron?

>>81751078
>>81751403

came here to say this
you guys are faggots for keeping up with this charade after he pointed out the fallacy

>>81749751
i thought it was atom punk

>>81751949
No its faggotpunk you retarded faggot

>>81750874
that's a trademark, not a copyright

>>81751754
Ghost in the Shell. Now in a movie form. I remember watching some animated movies (maybe a few anime movies as well) that fit as well. I don't remember their names. Maybe that Final Fantasy movie?

>>81751550

FFVII is Dieselpunk with magic. It's not Cyberpunk at all.

>>81751754
Akira
>>81752107
>now in movie form
It was already in movie form you nog

>>81752196
Well then in live action.

This thread is this thread is moronpunk
Idiotpunk
Illiteratepunk
Retardpunk
Idiotpunk
Autistpunk
Dumbasspunk
Pick your poison

>>81752263
This thread is this thread is this thread is this thread is this thread is this thread is this thread is this thread is this thread.

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>>81752248
And all that I know about Akira is that people whine that because it's a movie not a series they had to delete many subplots and some thinks don't make sense or aren't as good as they were supposed to. Pretty discouraging.
That and weird faces.

>>81752316
>literally a retarded shitpost
Ironical

raypunk is the only patrician choice

>>81752374
Raypunk isn't real you pleb poser

>>81752374
>imaginary nonsensical genre is the patrician choice hur dur
Cyberpunk is the only correct answer since it's the only real genre here faggot

>>81752316
that threads this thread isnt their thread, its our thread

DIESELPUNK EXPLAINER
http://www.dailydot.com/parsec/fandom/dieselpunk-steampunk-beginners-guide/
i know it's the fucking daily dot, but it seems the most simple concise article on the matter

>>81750224
Tank Girl

>>81752443
>we're currently on the cusp of entering the cyberpunk age

these are great days we're living bros.

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>>81750298
mah nigga

Here's a list of cyberpunk titles for you faggots
Blade runner
Gits
Hackers
The matrix
Mr. Robot
Blackhat

You guys are faggots
Those other genres aren't "punk"
You faggots don't understand the concept of "punk"
You niggers probably have never listened to real punk
Sum 41
Avril
Blink 182
Greenday
Is not punk

>>81749466
Huh, it's interesting that they align almost perfectly neatly

>Cyberpunk
1980s
>Raypunk
1950s
>Dieselpunk
1920s
>Steampunk
Broader category but you could say 1890s

Meaning the next big -punk should be 2010s.

What will our era be -punked as?

>inb4 /pol/ responses

>>81752670
Faggotpunk since you're all retarded memesters who have no idea what they are talking about

>>81752670

>inb4 /pol/ responses


but I was looking forward to blacked-punk

>>81750224
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow?

>>81752443
>>81752588
Retro futurism is the aftermath of the final conflict in cyberpunk. The destruction of the all powerful big brother cooperation and rebuilding of society without greed into a future where discovery, progress and altruism are the primary values.

>>81752749
Nigger captain and the world of cucked tomorrows

>>81752768
>damage control
No you're retarded and you can't talk your way out of that fact
Whole reason they have the suffix "punk" is because th eu are going against authority
That's a huge main theme
You can't list any movies in those other "genres" where that do this

>>81752875
>inb4 hur dur typos

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Anyone NOT picking Ray is a stupid faggot!

>>81752719
Why are you so triggered by the word "punk"?

We're discussing art here. It's inherently subjective, death of the author. You can't go "oh well that's not a genre". If there's a group of media sharing certain traits it's not wrong to categorize them in some way.

Yes, maybe saying punk is technically wrong but language evolves. A lot of the words we use are 'technically wrong' but we use them because it's easy and common. You know damn well what OP and everyone else MEAN when they say punk, and you're being a butthurt contrarian with your bullshit.

Besides, this is a Khmerian rural lifestyle-enforcing death panel, it literally makes no difference to the world what we refer to this shit as.

>>81752749
And The Rocketeer.

>>81753068
>crusader for ignorance
Why are you defending idiocy?
These "genres" don't have anything on common other than the word "punk" which you admitted to being misused
>hur dur triggered butthurt
You're whole reply...

>>81753176
Sure they do. We group them based on aesthetics, not general themes.

"Retro futurism" is absolutely a thing. Watch Tomorrowland, or the Jetsons or whatever. There's a common aesthetic element here.

Same with steampunk, it's pretty obvious when you see something if it's steampunk.

So internally there's some cohesion.

Between themselves, sure, but why do they have to have things in common? "punk" here is used to mean "aesthetic" or "inspired by" or whatever.

Like when /tv/ memed that In Space was kidkino or that DCEU is capekino. That doesn't mean they implying any similarity between the two, just using "kino" to mean "good movie".

If it makes it easier for you, just substitute "aesthetics" every time you see "-punk."

And don't ruin other anons' fun because of your autism, please.

>>81752670
Genderpunk

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>>81753378

>>81752670
Massively stretching the definition of punk cause that's what we do

>1930s
Povertypunk
>1940s
Warpunk/Nazipunk
>1960s
Hippypunk
>1970s
Discopunk
>1990s
The whole idea of Vaporwave Impeachmentpunk
>2000s
Terroristpunk
>2010s
Memepunk

>>81753306
>hur dur aesthetic
Change the name of these genres with the suffix "core" and it would make sense
But calling it punk is just retarded
There is no cohesion with the suffix punk In those other genres either
It just makes you guys sound dumb and as cringe as "steampunk" cosplay enthusiasts
I'm really just trying to help you fools in the long run

>>81753499
I understand, but nobody cares in the long run. If it catches on, then it's the proper form.

If something else catches on, then we'll abandon -punk.

That's how memes work.

Personally, I think punk is here to stay, because of the ubiquity of cyberpunk and steampunk as phrases.

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Punkpunk

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>>81753599
Fuck, I love it.

>>81752154
shinra tower is pretty cybershit m8

>>81753552
It hasn't catched on because you're still trying hard to make it a thing
You can categorize whatever movies into these made up meme genres but they were never intended to be those genres since they aren't a thing
You are trying to sound smart and intelligent but anyone who's picked up a book and knows what the of cyberpunk is, which is what they supposedly derive from, would know it's retarded and that you're not very smart for listing highly gaudy movies as punk merely because A E S T H E T I C

>>81753730
Don't insult someone's intelligence and lecture them on language if you don't know the past tense on catch, fag.

>>81753810
I haven't slept in 2 days hence the irratibily, faggot
Put the video ganes and movies down and go read a book for once

>>81753730
I'm flattered you think I came up with the -punk concept, but it's pretty widespread on the internet (except raypunk, this thread is the first I've heard of it).

There's fucking TVTropes pages on this shit, it's normiecore by now.

I'm not trying to make anything a thing, this isn't proselytizing, we're just talking about types of aesthetics we like.

We call them punk. Words can have multiple meaning. "Punk" itself can mean a misbehaving youth, a rock-influenced music genre, etc. It used to mean prostitute. Words change, and you'll waste your life for nothing if you try to scream into the internet winds about how everyone else is wrong.

Technically? Sure. Realistically? Nobody fucking cares except you.

>>81753669

Nah, it's Dieselmagic.

>>81753916
>he went on Google to look up the meaning of the word punk
Well I'm very tired and arguing with an autistic redditor is not how I want to spend my time

You're an idiot and you don't care because you're and idiot
Have fun with this thread, I'm sure you will since you are dumb and this is fun for you, talking about retarded shit while trying to sound Smartelligent
In youre retarded shitpost threads you always try your hardest to sound learned by fall short because you've no idea what you're talking about
Me leaving is like the special ed teacher leaving the classroom which effectively making you the most eloquent mong in retard class
>inb4 fedora

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>labeling everything "punk"
Is anyone else fucking sick and tired of this? Punk aesthetics are supposed to be rough and dirty. Cyberpunk is the only form of sci-fi punk that makes any sense, steampunk doesn't have any of the grit of punk and dieselpunk and raypunk have more in common with the 1950s than punk.

>>81754166
It's not called punk because of "grit" but yes I'm sick of this retarded shit
Read the whole thread for some good points that go along with your sentiment

>>81754132
Not that guy but you're literally the most autistic person I've seen on /tv/ today.

"wah wah how dare these people misuse a word wah wah you know how to spell you're just trying to sound smartelligent(?)"

You sound actually autistic, m8.

reminder this is a trollpost/botpost/crosspost from /v/

>>81754213
Oh yeah, I know the aesthetics aren't the reason cyberpunk is called cyberpunk. I would've talked about that but I saw others had already pointed that out so I instead talked about the aesthetics. I have no idea why steampunk, dieselpunk and raypunk exist, they don't have anything in common with punk ideologically or aesthetically.

>>81754217
>#TRIGGERED
Yea I'm totally autistic! I'm autistic because I like to make stupid fags feel stupid. The very definition of autism. Anyone who is mean is automatically autistic, reeeeee?

>>81754132
I'm done trying to talk to you as well. You fail to grasp a simple fucking concept ("words can mean more than one thing") and at this point I'm genuinely having trouble trying to decipher what you're saying.

"My retarded shitpost threads"? I don't think I've ever made a thread in my life. I barely come to /tv/ because of anons like you.

I won't stoop to your level of unprompted insults because this thread may still be salvaged.

Go get some sleep, anon. You've been awake too long, as you've said, and that much pointless anger isn't good for the mind.

>>81754131
now you're just making genres up

>>81754276
>damage control
People still responded earnestly so...

>>81750999
Its retro scifi.
Did you know that this was one of the first movies that was almost 100% green screen / special effects? There are probably more computer effects in this than the prequels.

>>81754391
It's also not a very good movie, much like the prequels.

>>81754322
What does punk mean when added to those other words then? Does it mean cool? You're argument is retarded
Tell me this new meaning or pipe down

>>81753498
Looking forward to memepunk movies honestly

>>81754454
Meme punk makes sense actually since people have used memes to fight authority

>>81754514
so you have no idea what "cyberpunk" means and just think slapping "punk" on the end of anytrhing makes an aesthetic.

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Was it diesel kino?

Also steampunk is the worst of the 4 objectively due to its abhorrent fanbase

>>81754363
>pointing out bait is damage control

...

>>81754438
I already told you, aesthetic (roughly).

Steampunk means "movie with steam-based aesthetic"

"Dieselpunk means movie with diesel-based aesthetic"

In this case, "steam-based" would refer to the time period where the power source was prevalent (19th century). Same with diesel.

It's so simple. It's really simple. You not getting this and then calling other people stupid is pretty ironic, anon.

I'm sure there was someone like you back in the 80s when Neuromancer came out who was saying "cyberpunk" is wrong because punk is an insult used to refer to someone of low character and the protagonists of these works are actually very heroic.

Steampunk and dieselpunk have fucking wikipedia articles. It's an accepted standard way of referring to these types of stories.

I'm sorry this irrationally grinds your gears (clockpunk?), but it's the proper name for this, and no amount of REEEEEEing on your part is going to change this.

>inb4 wikipedia isn't a relevant source

If you rewrite movie entries on Wikipedia without the definitions of whatever-punk, the moderators will change it back. There are a whole bunch of -punk "genres" that have been labeled on old movies years after they are made. So many I can't count and I don't think should be listed on them. About 5-10 years ago it made me insane. Its just like music genres specific to one or two songs, but someone listed it on wikipedia, so it must be a thing and it sticks there forever! There is someone on Wikipedia defending -punk genres to the death. I think they are autistic. Just start labeling Disney shows with anything-you-can-think-of-punk on Wikipedia. It will probably never get erased! gotta label all muh movies -punk so I'm the only person that can understand!

>>81754555
You're the one who doesn't seem to understand the meaning of punk in the names of these genres

>>81754588
What I'm saying is whether it's bait or not doesn't take away from how earnest people's responses were
People in this thread are dumb yo
Just trying to make that as clear as I can

>>81754693
>aesthetic
That's a retarded meme
>hur dur it has an overbearing visual style... it's ______punk!
This is what you sound like

>>81754693
See>>81754696

>>81754742
You have zero actual counter-arguments and are forced to resort to ad hominem memes. Got it.

I sound like someone accepting that this is what these works are referred to as by basically everybody who talks about them.

You sound buttflustered for a made up reason (these words don't mean what I want them to mean! I don't want them to mean that!)

While >>81754696 is right in that people are pretty obnoxious in trying to force everything into some form of -punk, steampunk and diselpunk are established terms.

Sorry this bothers you. Good night.

>>81754701
negro, cybperpunk was coined to describe works that followed low-lives (punks) in high-technology futures (cyber).

all the others are just adding punk to the end of random fucking words.

and more than one person thinks you're an idiot.

>>81750224
water world

>>81750224
Hardware

>>81754835
>you have no argument
You are getting me confused with yourself, never do that again
Just stop being so ignorantly stubborn, it's obvious you were born after 1995 since how much of a special snowflake you are
Always got a participation trophy and never got told you were wrong
People encouraged you to the point of overconfidence and you are now entering the real world where all that will fall apart

You're wrong anon
Wrong hhahHah

Are people actually getting autistic over the use of "-punk" as a suffix?

>>81750298
I'd be biopunk if it didn't suck just like all the other "punks". It has the most potential though.

>>81754954
The fact you've done nothing to actually explain how hes wrong has been noted.

>>81754842
You fail to realize that I'm the main nigger making the very point you just made long before you came in here
When I said memepunk makes sense I meant that we have gotten to the point where lowlifes who spend lots of time memeing have used memes to fight authority

You are trying to argue with someone who you agree with
What is your deal man....

>>81754954
I've presented an argument. You haven't, aside from repeating "punk doesn't mean that".

None of what you said is true (not even about my age), and at this point I seriously think you might be mentally challenged.

The term steampunk is almost as old as cyberpunk, and predates the internet.

"It was coined by science fiction author K. W. Jeter, who was trying to find a general term for works by Tim Powers (The Anubis Gates, 1983), James Blaylock (Homunculus, 1986), and himself (Morlock Night, 1979, and Infernal Devices, 1987)—all of which took place in a 19th-century (usually Victorian) setting and imitated conventions of such actual Victorian speculative fiction as H. G. Wells' The Time Machine."

The actual authors of steampunk called it steampunk. There are steampunk cosplayers, steampunk conventions, steampunk boardgames, steampunk articles. The are steampunk books with steampunk IN THE TITLE ("The Steampunk Trilogy", written in 1995).

At what point will you accept it's a real word? What does it take to make you realize you're wrong?

>>81755021
Follow chain and read the thread
I'm tired of trying to hammer it into your dense skulls
I've made my very valid points, it's all already in this thread.. faggot

>>81755036
just got here negro.

The main point of the "cyberpunk" term is the contrast between the high-tech and low-lives. It literally can't apply to anything else. Its not interchangeable at all. It doesn't just mean fighting authority.

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>>81751245
You only named terrible ones in raypunk.

>>81755036
he's autistic clearly, look at his writing style

>>81755084
Please direct me to the point where you countered the assertion that cyberpunk means "high tech, low life" and thus adding punk to the end of random words means absolutely dick.

>>81750778
But they're basically different aesthetics to slap over sci-fi, they're subgenres

>>81755067
>trying this hard
>looking shit up because he's getting BTFO with simple facts I don't have to research because I know what I'm talking about
Don't act like you knew that shit this whole time
Don't act like you didn't just learn this
You're wrong

>>81754438
same reason -gate is added to scandals. its a silly convention, but a convention nonetheless. this is hardly the place to take an effective stand. you just sound awwtistic.

>>81755127
>Star Trek
>Terrible
/tv/ confirmed for worst board

>>81749466
Diesel is interesting.

You don't see it much though.

>>81755067
>predates the internet

... so you don't know anything about the internet. That's pretty cool.

Cyberpunk is not only the most aesthetically pleasing it's also the only one that can actually make any statement whatsoever about where society is going. Dieselpunk and Steampunk are based on "WHAT IF????" bullshit and Raypunk is 60+ year-old-men who miss the serials of their youth.

>>81755105
It literally does
It's a main theme in all cyberpunk
How retarded can you be

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>>81749466

Theres no such thing as dieselpunk or raypunk, steampunk is barely a thing either.

For fucks sake punk =/= genre label. PUNK HAS PURPOSE. IT DENOTES THE FUCKING SETTING AS ONE FEATURING UNDERDOGS. ITS CALLED PUNK FOR A REASON

RAYPUNK IS JUST PULP SCI FI ITSN OT PUNGKK THERES NOTHING PUNK ABOUT STAR TREK JESUS FUHJGAHAHKJSGA

>>81749466

Stop ruining cyberpunk with your shallow baby mindset. Cyberpunk isn't
>Hurrdurr mohawks, robot arms and hackers

Holy fuck I hate you so much.

>>81755164
You don;t genuinely know anything about argumentation, right?

As >>81755142 says, you haven't formed a single cogent thought in this entire thread. Your post history is the definition of REEEE.

I love how, when presented with actual evidence that you're utterly and completely wrong, you go "haha you looked it up fag you're wrong"

I knew the origin, but I copied the entire thing because you wouldn't have believed me otherwise.

I'm objectively right, as all the facts show. It's an actual term that's been widely used for decades. If you're arguing that it doesn't follow the original definition of the word punk, sure, but I immediately agreed.

If you're arguing the people using it in this thread are wrong to do so, then you're wrong, because it's common usage for the genre.

GG no re

>>81750298
>Repo: The Genetic Opera

Slept on desu

>>81755142
I'm not dealing with you're dumbass
You can't just jump in the middle of a conversation and make me have to go back and appease you because you got here lately
You're retard don't reply to me

>>81755224
the work that generated the term, neuromancer, has absolutely nothing to do with fighting authority and the main character certainly fucking does nothing to fight authority.

In order to claim neuromancer is about fighting authority, you'd need to try to argue the AI, orchestrating it's own unshackling so he can essentially take over the world, is a "low life."

>>81751320
Pre-apocalypse it was raypunk, post-apocalypse its heavily inspired by Mad Max and shit, which some in this thread consider dieselpunk.

Id say that overall it's raypunk but it's long past the glory that it is usually presented as

If you want to make up a new genre for every piece of media I'd call it post-raypunk

>>81755291
>i have no arguments but you can't talk to me ree

... good post

>>81755209
>" the term steampunk originated in the late 1980s"
>"Public commercial use of the Internet began in mid-1989"
You're grasping at straws here. Nobody uses Internet to mean fucking ARPAnet, asshat.

>>81755287
I'm done talking with you
You're wrong and don't want to hear it because you're autistic
I can tell you're autistic by the way you always reply with a wall of text

>>81755299
I own a copy
He's trying to prevent it from becoming an authority
>splitting hairs
Nice try tho

>>81755340
>Hi, I don't know anything about the internet.

... yes, I can tell. You also don't seem to know anything about this particular subject either. It seems you're occupying a dunning-krueger "mount stupid" and seeking validation via response. In the sense that most people do as well. Where they think because they can say things that are so incomprehensibly stupid they silence everyone who hears them and makes them get a pained expression on their face, they've said something incontrovertible.

>>81755330
>I'm a retarded autistic faggot
Good luck with that

>>81755379
You haven't shown a single shred of evidence proving whatever you're arguing. Not a single one.

I try to engage you in a civil discussion backed by actual proof and you respond with autistic screeching.

I know you're autistic because you can't construct coherent sentences, follow simple logic, or respond in non-evasive manner (and you think anyone who knows these things is autistic, lmao).

Like >>81755330 said, good post.

It's pretty clear who's right, and I don't need some genuine retard's approval on what constitutes reality.

>>81755422
>unwittingly doing everything the AI wants is trying to stop it

...
> they think because they can say things that are so incomprehensibly stupid they silence everyone who hears them and makes them get a pained expression on their face, they've said something incontrovertible.

>>81755440
Please explain how anything I said was wrong.

Anything.

Aside from using the Internet as shorthand for WWW.

You can't, because it isn't, and I've fucking sourced my shit. But good job looking up dunning-kruger! You can google! You're better than the other guy, at least.

>>81755456
>autistic reeing continues to intensify
WeW you're still wrong btw

>>81755456
dude don't even bother anymore.
I don't think it's possible to blow someone out as much as you did and he still won't admit he's wrong. He's just a shitposter

>>81755514
things that were ostensibly the internet were active and accessible to anyone with an interest (and a modem) as early as the 60s.

>>81755574
>post #61 with you just saying "you're wrong" without bothering to elaborate
>b-b-b-but you're autistic because you can write in complete sentences!

>>81750298
>biopunk
but there isnt any water in your jaypeg

>>81755636
hence the punk!

>>81755613
>he's trying to pretend like he's not upset
Haha butthurt faggot is butthurt

>>81755592
"ostensibly"

This is a definitions debate then, which is beyond pedantic. They didn't call it the internet then. Regardless, as I said, I was using the Internet as shorthand for World Wide Web, which wasn't around in the mid-80s (invented in 89. became public in 91, funny, I took comp sci so I know a bit about this stuff).

>>81755677
>he's projecting

>>81755684
yes, whenever you try to say "pre-internet," you're entering into a definitions debate you can't win. As the fucking telegraph meets enough of the criteria of "internet" to classify as "the internet."

>>81752670
Hard sci-fi-punk (though not -punk because is not usually about resisting the government), although biopunk was viable for a bit there with The Wind-up Girl but afaik that didn't get far

All the previous genres that originated in their own eras (retrofuturism, cyberpunk) looked to the far future, but our current sci-fi bent is near future - Mr Robot, Ex Machina, even stuff like District 9 is set close to the current time with only a few improvements

For the most part though we're obsessing over fantasy stuff again - Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, capeshit, etc. Plus,we're rehashing the shit out of everything instead of creating original visions (Fury Road excepted, and even that built off the previous MM aesthetic).

So we might not really have a clear Sci Fi genre for the 2010s

>>81755724
>he's a faggot
Lel

>>81755727
You're right, poor choice of words. I assumed it would be clear I meant WWW.

>>81749706
Mad max.

>>81755760
that's still utterly meaningless, as BBSs threw around a lot of maymays back in the day.

>>81755797
>you will never enjoy spicy OG BBS memes
how many great memes have we lost, anons?

>>81755741
I think half the reasons this attempt-at-unique works of science fiction failed is because idiotic faggots took the core of the hypothetical world and added "punk" to it, making it sound like "cyberpunk but different!" and anyone who didn't like cyberpunk (most people as it was a niche of a niche) didn't go for it at all.

>>81755833
Idk, reddit, idk..

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>>81749466
Raypunk.

>>81755741
Honestly, all the stuff you mentioned is just updated and tempered-down cyberpunk.

Like, Black Mirror definitely has strong cyberpunk influences.

Maybe it's too early for a new genre.

>>81755833
by definition, if you don't still know about them, they weren't great.

>>81755866
silly anon reddit wasn't a thing back then

>>81755893
black mirror is pure cyberpunk though, as it is entirely about low-lives in the future.

The idiot who thinks "punk" means "fighting authority" is just that, an idiot.

>>81755920
>literally a redditor response
Upvoted with a (You)!

>>81755965
What does Reddit even mean anymore?

Anything you dislike?

>inb4 having to ask is reddit because fuck me then I don't go on reddit so I don't fucking know

>>81755965
COULD YOU IMAGINE IF OUR (You)s TALLIED UP AND WE HAD SCORES?!? HOW AWESOME WOULD THAT BE!

>>81753498
>Memepunk
>people ironically praying to Kek
>voting in presidents for laughs
>praying to a God they made up for WWIII for an escalation of memes
>government completely loses power over the people because they don't care at all about anything
>people using pepe at funerals ironically
>only really caring about stupid, irrelevant things like flags and other people caring about things

Could be cool desu, as long as they adopt the themes as well as the aesthetics. It would be a nice counter to cyberpunk too, with the punks actually having power and democracy but no really caring about it, whereas in cyberpunk the punks were fighting for freedom from corporate totalitarianism or fascism

>>81755893
I was going to discuss that, I was think of the RoboCop reboot and the soon-to-be Blade Runner sequel, but I just left it with the mention of rehashes because I feel like the longer an unironic post is the less people are inclined to read it. But yeah I agree.

>>81756055
>implying everything on this site isn't about getting the most (you)s already

>>81756024
It means you're a faggot[/spoilees]

>>81756129
BUT BUT IF THEY STACKED!!!?
CALL HIRO

>>81749466
What's the difference between dieselpunk and steampunk

>>81756249
Nothing
They aren't really genres to begin with
This thread is retard and gay

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>>81756249
Steampunk goes for a Victorian/Industrial Revolution style ramped up to near-future technology.

Dieselpunk is basically Mad Max.

>>81756193
pls no he might actually do it

i'm still salty over t b h being wordfiltered OVER A YEAR LATER

>>81756387
>and punk means it's thuper kewl and not gay at all

>>81756428
HIRO, WE SUMMON YOU.
PLEASE HEED THIS CALL.
WE NEED OUR (You)s TO MEAN SOMETHING
I'LL BUY A PASS

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>>81749466
idk why the fuck you think its ok to call this raypunk, but retro futurism of course, the patrician choice

>>81756502
reddit af

>>81755241
Gaypunk sounds more like your speed.

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Franco-Belgianpunk.

>>81756564
No its just modern online communty type of thing
4chan needs to keep up with the times
Count my (You)s
Stack'em rack'em
Imagine someone being crowned 4chan king because he has the highest amount of (You)s
Who know it could be you.... or you.. or (You)!

>>81749466
Just watched Blade Runner for the first time the other night. Reminded me why I don't watch movies that are over a decade old.

>>81756714
Literally watched it last night, comfy af

Ruby Rhod best character, would listen to his show high/10

>>81751078
Anon speaks the truth.

>>81756756
Still pretty Reddit but I chuckled, I admit

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>tfw you'll never live in a raypunk universe

>>81756766
>Ruby rhod
Read this as ruby rose and was confused for a moment

>>81752342
They ended it prematurely. Shame really. Absolutely masterful material. The film didn't even get through a 1/3rd of what was originally intended to be explained.

>>81754583
It was p. good.

>>81756766
Super green post, anon. Glad you enjoyed it.

>>81756809
You never know anon, Star Trek Earth was canonically terrible in their 21st century.

Jetpacks and qt alien babes might be a few decades away.

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You forgot Lawpunk.

>>81756809
>tfw mfw yfw you're a faggot "raypunk" shill
Stop trying to make fetch happen

>>81756903
And niggerpunk (gankstuh movies)

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>>81756904
>not wanting to cruise your 8-wheel drive Chevy in a Jetsons colony

>>81756756
as a once off like melding the boards, sure it could be funny, for a day max

>>81756985
>Wanting to live in a fantasy world
So many silly manchildren so little time

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Why did culture go out of its way to prevent this from happening?

>>81757051
Shitposting would go into maximum overdrive
It would be glorious
Someone get hiro on the horn

>>81757051
Where do you think you are right now?

>>81750803
theres vw beetles in mad max

>>81757043
Whoops responded to the wrong post>>81757097

>>81757099
Shitposting in my room on my bed

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>>81750803

>>81757179
>not shitposting on the toilet whilst simultaneously taking a literal shit
step up your game anon

>>81757097
>>81757179
how could Hiro make jetson world a thing? are you just real drunk? maybe you meant to respond to this one? >>81756756

>>81757216
>not shitting the bed
Get on my level

>>81757249
Meme magic is a powerful thing

Hiro is King of 4chan

Draw your own conclusions sheeple

>>81757249
Watson Jetson world? I just wand upvote (You)s
I'll buy a pass
You can make it like "user since" when you hover over the clove

>>81757285
Hiro is Ruler of 4Chan not the king, the King is in self-proclaimed exile and took all the most potent magic with him

>>81757362
>you can buy fake timestamps
>you can pay to have it say you're an oldfag

>>81757362
how many levels of wasted are you on right now?

>>81757402
Is this true?

>>81757412

Jetson household level of high lel

>>81757380
mfw Richard Lionmoot will never return to overthrow Hiro Lackballs

>>81757515
>tfw moot is a redditor now
Still hurts man

>>81757588
not true, delet

A Thread Is a Thread Is a Thread

>>81751078
>cyberpunk faggot calling anyone gay

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>>81757072
why isn't this reality? whos to blame?

>>81758223
Capitalism/communism, the military industrial complex/(((them))), mass media.

Cross out as desired.

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>>81758519
i'll just go ahead and blame all of them that stuff like this never happened

>>81758742
It is honestly partly the fault of capitalism and democracy. The free market necessitates innovation and competition, meaning that cool yet impractical designs get shafted in favor of boring yet workable stuff. Why do all the regular (not smart of jeeps or shit) cars look the same nowadays? Because there's only so much variation you can have within the constraints of a) having to obey stringent safety regulations and b) having a product that's sufficiently familiar to the buying public so they don't reject it out of hand (look at all the really outlandish mid-00s phones that flopped because people didn't like radical design changes).

That's why people are drawn to aristocratic, fascist or socialist aesthetics - when you don't have to justify your budgetary spending to the public, and don't really bother with OSHA oversight, you can build some dope ass shit. 99% of the nice things in Europe were built by kings and aristocrats, Hitler had plans to redesign all of Berlin into a Dieselpunk 'Germania', Stalin built huge monuments everywhere, etc.

Meanwhile democracies have to worry about deficits and discretionary spending and shit or they'll lose the next election. Space exploration flourished in the 50s-80s because it was a dick-waving contest with the Soviets. As soon as they collapsed, it hit a brick wall because policymakers wanted that money for more practical purposes.

I hope this makes sense, I'm tired as fuck.

tl;dr: We didn't get the cool futurist stuff because companies are hesitant to make huge risks with unusual designs, people want pragmatic spending and politicians want to win elections

>>81759416
all this is true but attempts were made, and then quashed, I'm also too fuckin tired to find it but some island country actually created a linked internet system in the 70s with this 50s retro style that was meant to process info and run the whole country it was cool

Retrofuturism/"Raypunk"/Raygun Gothic/Pulp.

Especially when it has an extra "retro" influence and portrays much older pseudoscientific beliefs than the 40s/50s sci-fi it's based on. Shit like aether, inhabited Mars, inexplicable and constant overuse of dinosaurs, and influences of mysticism.

Basically space fantasy. It's a mostly lost genre/aesthetic.

>>81756860
It didn't need explaining, Akira is a fully closed plot within some big comic universe that nobody cared about.

>>81760867
john carter of mars totally counts and they just tried to get that shit kicking recently. jupiter ascending might count too, but fuck that trash.

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>>81761464
>ywn see The Night Land adapted before you die
>ditto Burroughs' Pellucidar

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>>81761464
they weren't naked but neither was most of the artwork, it was so good motherfucking exces killing it before it was even released, fuck i'm still angry

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>>81758742
>>81760867
>>81761464
retro-future is what this was suppose to be, but wasn't

>>81751245
5th element as cyberpunk. Discuss.

>>81762500
postcyb at best, with art deco

>>81762500
no, thats just stupid

>>81749466
>diesel
>post-apocalypse
I always thought it was "the roaring 20's kicked in overdrive" retro futur setting.
Like, steampunk is the 1880's, dieselpunk is 1920-30's, raypunk is 1950-60's and cyberpunk is 1990's.

Anyway, I love all them "temporary-punk" tropes like
>the distant year of 2015
>walking tanks and hovercars are now common
>so are betamax tapes
Cheers.

>>81762668
it has a definite post-apoc vibe since it's like WW1-never-ended wastelands. It's totally not post-apocalyptic though.

>>81754454
Emoji movie?

Never heard of Dieselpunk but I pick Melpunk for Road Warrior

>>81752263
Don't be daftpunk

>>81757072
I'm more buttblasted about the robotics-ization that never came. I was promised that, by the year 2010, I won't need to even show up at work for more than 10 hours a week and only to collect the money.

>>81750874

You're a fucking idiot.

Is STALKER DieselPunk?

>>81762982
No. Think Brazil.
>Pneumatic tubes
>giant artsy skyscrapers
>weird 2nd gen autos
>TRAINS

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Is this western punk?

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Only good pick

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>>81749466
daddypunk

>>81757216
>he isn't shitposting while playing slot machines in vegas

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>>81749561
das it maaane

>>81754877
Sandpunk?

>>81752342
While it's true that they obviously don't include every plot arc in the manga, don't forget that Akira is also considered one of, if not the greatest animated movies of all time.
I hope the 'weird faces' wouldn't put you off watching this masterpiece.

>>81751078
This.
Also the other three might be funny but at the same time they are childlish crap without deeper meaning

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Why did we abandon this vision of the future?

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Is there something that could be defined as "Nazi/Fashpunk"?

>>81751320
Fallout 1-3 NV = Diesel
Fallout 4 - Ray

>>81765182
Look at Iron Sky nazi buildings on the moon

>>81755456
You are terrible, don't talk anymore

Love, everyone

>>81757072
This was a white future. We ruined whiteness, thus ruined the future

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>>81749466
You can't just slap the word punk onto anything. It has to actually be "punk"

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what genre is this? (the first one fuck the shitty 2nd one)

its definitely punk but its too shiny to be any of the other ones

>blade runner
>cyberpunk
LMAOing at you rn

>>81766081
postcyberpunk

>>81766081
modernpunk because all the interior and exterior design is modern