Why are 20 and 30somethings watching this?

fappin to dat ass

Why are 20 and 30 year olds watching comic book movies, anime and star wars?

>>81734572
why are neets keep insulting normies watch?

>>81735111
jewish psyop to make all white males into manchildren

>>81734572
because most people that age still have massive persecution complexes that they never really got over. which is why they feel compelled to get into long winded arguments with teenage strangers on twitter and derive a great sense of pride from these interactions. It's like their standing up to their old high school bullies or something. really weird and sad.

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>>81734572
cute asian girl

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>>81734572
If only they could be as mature as you and have their opinions completely dictated by what you can use to make passing comments on an anonymous imageboard

>>81735220
is that the chinese guy from Mr Robot's son? damn cool crossover netflix!

>>81735111
fun

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>>81735220

>>81735237
D E F L E C T E D

>>81734572
I'm hoping that watching it will make me stop thinking about killing myself.

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>>81735220
>>81735264
>vlcsnap

disgusting

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Episode 13 was the only non-shit episode because of that scene.

>mfw watching it.

>>81734572
are you a special snowflake?

>>81735111
holy fuck /tv/ got BTFO'd

>>81735293
>he still does the vlc elitist act
>he doesn't know vlc has been improved for years now
>includes reaction .gif from 2009
ouch, embarrassing.

Stopped watching after episode three. None of the characters were likeable or compelling and the premise of a message from the grave was poorly executed.

>>81735331
>using vlc in the year of our lord two thousand and seventeen

>>81734572
Have you seen her?

She's hot as fuck!!!

>>81735353
No

>>81735348
dig that hole deeper boy

>>81734572
Why are 20 and 30somethings watching Rick and Morty?

Why are 20 and 30somethings watching Star Wars?

Why are 20 and 30somethings watching Mystery Science Theater 3000?

>>81734572
>Why would a dead girl lie?

So just because someone dies that automatically makes anything they've ever said true?

>>81735353
max 7/10.

>>81734572
because they were teenagers once and 90% of people had a shitty teen life.

>>81734572

Are they? I haven't heard of anyone I know watching it. I literally have only heard of it from threads like this complaining that it exists for some reason.

>>81734572
Imagine all the stupid fags that are going to kill themselves after watching this bullshit thinking that suicide is a good way to get revenge

>>81734572
I watched the first episode and was hooked because of the main qt
watched the whole thing in a day

>>81736010
What about all the fags who don't kill themselves after watching this bullshit thinking that suicide is a horrible thing to do to their parents, friends and family?

>>81736055
The show does too good of a job promoting suicide.

Suicide TM
Make your bullies either kill themselves or get arrested!

I started it because my gf but then I realized than I don't love her enough to sit through that piece of shit for more than three episodes

>>81736107
>The show does too good of a job promoting suicide.
No, it doesn't. You're just an idiot with stupid ideas.

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>>81734603
What ass?
There is no ass in this show, fucking Bryce has the best ass.

btw check my digits

>>81736055
>What about all the fags who don't kill themselves after watching this bullshit thinking that suicide is a horrible thing to do to their parents, friends and family?
>implying people who are serious about offing themselves care about any of that

>>81736161
What digits?
There is no digits in this post, fucking >>81736110
got better digits than you

btw check my lack of digits

>>81736180
How do you know? Is that what reddit told you?

Don't make a fool of yourself, anon. Don't reply to me.

>>81736132
Well articulated point, whitestain. Make toast in the tub and fuck off.

>>81736220
>2kewl 4u
Do us a favor and die tragically. Don't leave tapes

I dont know about you guys but I've suddenly got the urge to fuck black woman after watching this ?

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>>81734572
it's entertaining

>>81736220
>How do you know?
because I've been there
>Don't reply to me.
make me

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>>81736220
>Don't reply to me.

>>81736323
oh god this is so right.

>>81734572

This fucking show. It was fine up until they revealed Bryce is a serial rapist and completely upended everything everything it tried to do in the first ten episodes. Hannah needed one tape: Bryce raped me. Everything else was fucking trivial.

>>81736323
Bryce is far from Chaotic Evil
First he is lawful
Second he is most likely Neutral, Evil if you believe Hannah's lies but really he is lawful good

>>81735302
post said scene please

Is there any nudity in this show? I saw it's TV-MA

>>81734572
I like the narrative system

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>>81736794
hard pass

>>81736950

>not beating it to the rape scene
welcome to your tape, Anon.

>>81737064
anybody have a webm of that?

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>>81736107
>promotes suicide

>>81735152
for all the shit the likes of Adorno and friends get isn't this the exact thing they were ultimately criticizing? when did this irreconcilable chasm spring between alleged conservatism and cultural critique

>>81737161
Who gets into a tub of water with their clothes on? What bullshit

>>81734572

When I was a kid I used to daydream about killing myself and have a magic voice tell the people who wronged me why they caused this and a general sob story of my hardships. It was less about wanting to die than it was about me getting attention and making them feel awful at the same time. You could call it more of a revenge fantasy than a suicidal one

That was probably strange to read, but perhaps this desire of attention with the narrative of a poor victim appeals to a certain demographic of viewers that self-insert themselves into the protaganist of this story

This actually suits the current victim mentality of our time, which is the strongest among people in their 20's

>>81737208
bleeding to death makes you feel like your freezing

>>81737390
having wet clothes doesn't make you warmer

>>81737487

If you're sitting in warm water with clothes it doesn't matter. You only get cold in clothes because the air is colder than the water and the water evaporates.

How do you even remember to breathe?

>>81737390
>>81737487
The warm water stops the cut from closing making you bleed out quicker.

I thought this was general knowledge

>>81735111

savage

>>81735434
She is clearly a solid 9

Jeff had nowhere near as much screen time as Hannah and his death had more impact than her whole story.

>>81737250
No i watched it for Hannah.
She was a melodramatic bitch but she was so cute in her little dress at the school dance

Although Hannah's story is the basis for the show it's mostly about Clay. We see everything through his eyes, and follow his progression through the episodes.

>>81735384
Uh that's the target audience

>>81737902
God jeff, he deserved better

>>81734572
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfy-DSuc_Kk

>>81736763
>lawful good
>rapes two girls

yeah no

This series is autistic and a real danger for your life, don't watch it

>>81737902
>men being as important as women
lmao

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>Sheri
Muh dick!

>>81737902
it's because he wasn't in the source material, so netflix had to write some sort of story about him themselves which they are just incapable of

>>81738218

You got that backward.

>>81738093
>Star Wars
>target audience: 30's males
>rarely any violence, rarely deaths, guys in costume shooting lazer guns at eachother, no swearing

>13 Reasons Why
>target audience: 12 year old girls
>partial nudity, graphic scenes of suicide, graphic scenes of rape
>constant use of words "fuck", "shit", "slut", "bitch", "assholes" etc

Do you see what I'm getting at?

>>81738339
What you're getting at is both are fucking gaaaaaaaaaarbage.

>>81738212
Seconding this, I'm halfway through the first episode and already want to kill myself for having put myself through it

>>81738339
Maturity is not about how many naughty words and pg-13 sex scenes it has.

>>81738312
but anon that wasnt anons point?

i have literally no idea

i watched the first two episodes last night and i can legitimately say this is some of the worst dialogue i've seen in a show in years. it feels like i'm watching the 2010 version of the room ffs

>>81738384
I'm just arguing against faggots that say this show is somehow "made for girls" when it's far darker and grittier than most Movies desu.

Was Bryce really that bad? Other than the rape, he was a total bro

>>81738464
It gets better around ep 4 when shit starts to hit the fan and everybody gets rekt.

>>81738465
>it's dark! it's gritty!
>the epitome of masculinity!

>>81738493
No, but it's entertaining and raises issues.

It's not a mind-numbing capeshit movie, that's why I watched it.

why are people so obsessed over this show, its just an average over reacting teen drama show.

>>81735348
whats better?

it's a terrible tagline. a dead girl has no reason not to lie. she's dead, what consequences can she have?

>>81734572
why do niggers kill older niggers?

cuz it has rape

>>81738491
i mean maybe the plot improves but i cannot believe someone wrote this trash. like when they have the girl say
>there are 13 sides to every story
as if that isn't the most retarded shit ever, i just can't take this seriously

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>>81736431

I wanna fug that clowm

same

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>>81738754
>>81738782
watch it

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>>81738754
>>81736431
NO THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN TO ME AGAIN. I WILL NOT GET A FETISH FOR GIRL CLOWNS AGAIN. FUCKING DELETE THESE.

>>81738670
>there are 13 sides to every story
Obviously that was meant as a joke.

>>81734603
>>81735311
>>81735353
>>81738218
>>81738312
>>81738487
>>81738575
>>81738600
Welcome to your tapes, Anon.

>>81738487
He sent out the panty pic of Hannah iirc

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>>81738975

>in case you're wondering this makeup goes all over, anon ;D

>>81736323
Pretty good.

>>81739114
N-No not again.

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>>81738975

And yet here you are, still checking this thread. Subconsciously wishing for us to defy you and return your fetish.

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>>81739215
delet pls

>>81736431
>>81738754
>>81739114
>>81739215
I'd clown around with her

This is an anime board, we specialize in men-children that have a hard time with adult life.

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>>81739275

>Why are you fighting your feelings for me, anon?

>>81739369
/a/ is an anime board, please go back there

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>>81739380
pls stop

>>81737250

I knew someone who I later found out raped his sister and caused her to have severe depression and suicidal thoughts. This entire post sounds eerily familiar.

>>81739380
post clown pussy or fuck off

Is this show actually any good? A co-worker told me that I should watch it.

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>>81739532

Pixi is an actual clown, not some porn cosplayer. She's a pure Catholic woman who takes her profession seriously. And that just makes her all the hotter to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUUSDcp0zLk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-QWdYOPchg

>ywn be born in a rich nice US town, live in a big house and go to parties and experience teen love with a 10/10 qt

That's the only depressing thing about this show.

>>81739380
Because I like dick.

Same with everyone else that watched this show and is posting in this thread.

>>81739636

Were you anxious 24/7 and depressed as a teenager in addition to normal angst? Like angst burger with a side of mental disorder fries? This show will remind you of that.

>>81739640
didn't she retire because people kept hiring her for fetish reasons as opposed to stuff like children's birthday parties?

>>81739649

Yeah idk why tv shows and movies still stick with the upper middle class and big houses cliche.

The most realistic American neighborhoods and houses I've seen on TV are in Better Call Saul. Those neighborhoods are more common.

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>>81737530
>You only get cold in clothes because the air is colder than the water and the water evaporates.
>the air is colder than the water and the water evaporates.
>How do you even remember to breathe?

>>81737525
>>81739777
Wasted trips on replying to the wrong person.

bryce was a bro

>>81739636

The plot twists are unrealistic and melodramatic in ways that make K-dramas and anime look like A & E documentaries.

But still good, still depressing, and if you like darker older post punk music the soundtrack gonna be yo shit.

>>81739720

Her last tweet was in January. Are you saying she retired since then?

The show was produced by Selena Gomez lol.

>>81740265
im sure it was

>>81734572
Infantilization of culture and shit taste.
Also, can somebody explain to me why people say stuff like "OMG LIKE THE SUICIDE SCENE WAS SO INTENSE IT HAUNTED ME FOR THE WHOLE DAY"?
They clearly can't be so emotionally stunted that they're deeply influenced by a fucking tv series, so why just lie and pretend they care about this shit?
Is it because most young people today get their behaviorial cues from sitcoms and tv shows in general? As in "characters on tv behave like this, so it's perfectly appropriate"?

>>81740430

Why is your first reaction to assume everyone is lying about their own reactions?

>>81736323

Jesus this is actually accurate

>>81735302
I shed a tear desu

>>81736323
Justin ain't evil man. But Jeff truly is best guy.

>>81738975

Kek

>>81739649

I actually grew up with all of this, I also married that 10/10 from high school and a baby on the way.

Don't believe all the shows and movies about how everyone is miserable and such, it really was awesome.

>>81738421
It's an infinitely more mature subject matter than anything in capeshit or spaceshit though, whether you like the series or not.

>>81740142
well I guess I'm wrong.

>>81734572
I don't appreciate this type of threads. Misogynstic as hell. Why don't you compare mens dicks? I thought this was a place for film discussion not pussy. /b is that way>>>>>

Guess what: I'm a woman

I've been using 4chan for 8 years now. I'm an MIS and Marketing major, top of my class. I have an IQ of 146. I'm only a sophomore and have had 7 internships. I'm a member of the MENSA society. I voted Trump (Ivanka that is). I'm not a feminist, however, I'm probably more intelligent than most of you in this thread.

Wether you like it or not, females are comperable. I'm not here to steal your money. I'll probably make more than you. I'm not going to make you a sandwhich, I'll have my personal chef do it. The ironic thing is my father married for looks and I'm actually attractive as well.
Cocky? Yes. Ashamed? No.

I won't show you my tits, I'll be your CEO one day

>>81740848

Sure beats growing up in a post-socialist war torn shithole eating bread and margarine in your commie flat.

>just do it bruh, when life gives you lemons make a lemonade bruh

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>>81740909
Boring post

>>81740909

Stale pasta

i don't understand why the dumb bitch blamed the counselor dude.
why does this bitch think EVERY PERSON NEEDS TO CHASE AFTER HER

>>81740938

Sorry bro, if you ever move to NJ I'll let you hang out in my hot tub

>>81736323
all accurate except for Justin

>>81740978

That is literally how women think, and if you ever want to have a long term relationship you'll have to get used to it.

>>81740978

Idk man it was still rape. Dude couldn't wait for her to leave so he can talk to his wife who called him 1000 times a day. Plus he lied afterwards...he must have felt guilty after all.

What I don't understand is Clay being on the tapes. She acted like he was raping her and told him to gtfo...what did she expect?

>>81741037

She openly admits that he shouldn't really be on the tapes as someone to blame, but rather she wanted to explain why they wouldn't have worked out etc

Not sure if you missed that part, but it's when he's listening to his tape in Tony's car.

>>81738670
So this is what its like to have autism

>>81740430
Just because you're some desensitized faggot loser who checks liveleak for new beheading videos every morning doesn't mean that everyone else share your passion for wasting your life on the internet


Also - how ironic that you would call anyone emotionally stunted

>>81736323
Poetry Gay should be switched with Basketball Asian

>>81740670
I'm being charitable by giving for granted they're not so immature that a fucking scene from a movie can seriously cause them emotional fraught for a day or more.
If they're not telling lies, they're even more immature than I thought.
>>81741208
>Just because you're some desensitized faggot loser who checks liveleak for new beheading videos every morning
I'm not a fucking degenerate, I avoid that stuff like the plague because I don't want to normalize it in my psyche, so you're missing the mark by quite a bit.
>Also - how ironic that you would call anyone emotionally stunted
How is it ironic at all? I'm not the one who is so emotionally immature and sheltered that a fucking fictional character killing herself causes me to be depressed for a day.

>>81736763
> Hannah said he raped two girls
> Actually no real evidence of it
> Justin somehow cool with letting her girlfriend getting raped
> When he knows that the content of the tapes are gonna blow up he finally accuse Bryce of doing it to cover his own ass
Don't believe her lies /tv/

As for lawful he as a position of order (captain of the sport teams), he hold many code (420 code, he even gives weeds for free to Clay), upheld the human dignity code : even after getting punched by Beta clay he still gave him ice and Scotch instead of kicking him out of his house

Admit it /tv/ Bryce did nothing wrong and season 02 will reaveal that

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>>81741394
>season 2

I really enjoyed season 1 but there's absolutely no need of this

>>81736323
Switch lawful neutral with chaotic neutral and chaotic evil with neutral evil.
People don't get it but neutral evil has always been intended to be the most evil of them all. Chaotic evil characters can barely control themselves half of the time. Netutral evil are just flat out evil for personal gain.

>>81741368
No one means it literally faggot, it was a disturbing scene but not one to disrupt people's lives. Autistic retard.

>>81741368

How is it immature to be affected by disturbing imagery? Not everyone is desensitized to everything.

>>81741368
>How is it ironic at all? I'm not the one who is so emotionally immature and sheltered that a fucking fictional character killing herself causes me to be depressed for a day.

In any case you must be so autistic you dont understand that people get emotionally invested in the tv-series that they are watching (thats actually the main reason why people watch tv)

>>81741437
You just know if they can make more money they'll do it.
Just like that shitshow broadchurch that had a second season for god knows why

>>81741468
>No one means it literally faggot
I'm not talking about those using hyperboles, anon.
>>81741469
>How is it immature to be affected by disturbing imagery?
I understand if you're affected by it for the duration of the movie/episode and maybe a bit after. If somehow you're still affected by it hours later, something is wrong with you.
>>81741472
I understand emotional investment, it's crucial to the fruition of a movie. I'm talking about people who unironically, unhyperbolically (yeah, that's not a word) say stuff like that.

>>81741503
>12 episodes leading up to bryce going 2 jail after his rich family keeps bailing him out the first 11

already know how this will end

also i don't understand. doesn't tony have a gang to go fuck ppl up?
why didn't he just jump bryce already? instead of waiting for clay to attack ppl

>>81741660
I'm sorry you haven't watched anything that you've really connected with. A good show or movie can affect your mood for days, for me stuff like Come and See, Thin Red Line, Hannibal s2 finale, The knock s2 finale, Spartacus series finale have had that effect.
Hope you find something like that one day.

>>81740430
>Also, can somebody explain to me why people say stuff like "OMG LIKE THE SUICIDE SCENE WAS SO INTENSE IT HAUNTED ME FOR THE WHOLE DAY"?
virtue signaling to show how against suicide they are while half of them would probably bully someone without thinking twice about it.

>>81741784

>It's not what Hannah wanted

>It's not what Hannah wanted
>It's not what Hannah wanted
>It's not what Hannah wanted
>It's not what Hannah wanted
>It's not what Hannah wanted

>>81741437
If they had balls they would have eneded season 1 with a columbine shooting in the school, that would had me hooked for next year, instead albino dork was shot and it was meh.

>>81740909
Reddit spacing.

>>81741784
i totally forgot about that. What even was the point of showing them beating someone up and then never mentioning it again? Also what was the point of making tony gay and always showing his boyfriend? I don't care that he's gay but showing him with a girlfriend would have been just as pointless imo. It didn't add anything to the plot or tony as a character

>>81741922

A person that killed herself has nothing to want.
If she really wanted something she could have grew a pair.

>>81741924

I would have cut just before he goes into the school and then had the credits be silent except for the sounds of gunfire and panicked screaming

and it would have won me an Emmy

>>81741808
I really hope you meant that sincerely because if you were saying it sarcastically it's a really shitty thing to do.

quit after 50% of ep 1. boring as shit. every single scene feels absolutely unnatural.

>>81741731
13 kino episode where we realise Hannah was full of shit and the big bad wolf turns out to be innocent
Also since they really like gay people I guess clay will makes out with bryce.
I would be fine with that DESU he has a better ass than hannah

>>81741960

There was literally no point except to give the main character some doubt in his mind to trust Tony

That's literally it

>>81735152
>calling others manchildren while posting on a Bhutanese interpretive dance clipsite

>>81742143
>Hannah was full of shit

wasnt that clear from the start. who else would make fucking tapes like that.

>>81734572
The Neflix disease. That shit has people at their mercy with the lack of good content so something new comes around and they watch disregarding quality and intended public to justify the money spent every month.

>>81734572
Why are there so many fucking gay people in this series?
Is america really that full of fags?

>>81738218
Hi tumblr!

>>81741960
What was the point of
>having a twink blond guy being actually hetero
> having Hannah and Jessica harass this poor guy by telling him do you know what "male gaze is"
> Hannah saying the term "fat shaming"
> The mother of Hannah stopping her laywer from asking question to Jessica like she was "she already got raped don't make her relive that - even though she doesn't remember anything and i'm litteraly suing and fucking up a school for revenge but I care about girls fee fee-)

This serie was pretty heavily handed on Reddit and SJW tones. It's pandering, or propaganda

>>81738384
>>81738339
>when you pretend to hate star wars so much you drag it into other convos

>>81742246
America isn't called Gayistan for nothing.

>>81734572
A N G S T W A N K

bet it'll win a dozen awards too

>>81742291

No it fucking isn't. That's how people talk in real life. I've heard women bring up fat shaming on first dates.

>>81742076
I was being sincere.
This show unfortunately didn't quite give me that reaction, although the suicide scene was pretty damn raw and gut-wrenching.

what pissed me off most about Hannah was the fact she didn't give a fuck about her parents. They were great parents always making sure she was fine, doing their best for her eventhough they were already going through a rough time, planing her future and everything and all she does is kill herself in a literal blood bath right there in their house for them to find her to be forever haunted by the image of her dead body. She didn't even bother to leave them a fucking note or at least a copy of the tapes. She just left them like that without any explanation. They (and jeff) were the only people i felt genuinely bad for

>>81742458
>I've heard women bring up fat shaming on first dates.
Stop dating landwhales anon

>>81742458
>do we really need to order five courses on our first date?
>are you fat shaming me anon?

Why are literal Netflix shill threads (paid employees of Netflix are literally doing this) allowed on thsi board and not deleted?

>>81742458
Well maybe I don't live in retarded burger land anyhow I don't know how far off you guys are.
But the 35' gays characters are a good give away.
Or the scene I described when Jessica is getting questionned by the family lawyers and when they comes near the rape subject the women patronisingly tell the laywer to stop asking her questions. It has heavy SJW undertone with their whole "talking about a rape is as hard as being rape. People shouldn't ask questions to the girls during rape trials it's litteraly misoginy"

Especially since she is going to fuck tons of children by fucking over their school for a petty revenge.

>>81741784
He actually realizes he fucked up by the end of the first season.

>>81738591
mpc hc

can somebody give me a tl;dr of the season or why he an hero'd herself?

>>81735353
her face is alright but shes kinda chubby

>>81735111
Late stage capitalism?
(((Globalism)))?

>>81742667
She killed herself because she was raped by chad thundercock.
Even though she never said no. Or screamed. Or protested. Or told anyone aside from one person.

I would fucking destroy jessica desu

>>81742742

This is literally true

>>81742742
>the show is nothing more than "listen and believe"
not surprising

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>>81742775

>>81742667
She was considered a slut by everybody but really wasn't. At least not entirely. She was just attracted to Chad Thundercock. She finally fell in love with our main character - who is your typical arrogant beta male - but ends up rejecting him as she remembered all the assholes who bullied her and harassed her. However, she also gets fucked by a jock, doesn't dare to reject him and ends up calling it "rape".

>>81742991
>>81742742
It's true that two other boys were litteraly 10 feet away, she could have screamed help at least

>>81737161
This is hard to watch man

>>81743059
She herself literally admits to black shrink man that she didn't say no or anything like that.
Like, what the fuck, how was bryce supposed to know she didn't want it?

>>81742291
>made every character gay
>made Clay look like he was at fault for a lot even though he did nothing wrong

>>81734572
I was between jobs, in a new city with no friends, and have already watched most of the good shit on Netflix.
It actually fucked me up emotionally because the scenes with the parents were so good. I was pretty sad and prone to crying for 5 or 6 days after I finished it.

>>81735302
i walked in on my wife watching that scene and laughed, how fucking absurd

why was Jeff such a bro? Do Chads like that actually exist?

>>81743117
i agree, the mother was very convincing to me

>>81742742
>>81742991
>they didn't watch the rape scene where she actually said No to Bryce

I want r9k to leave

>>81743117
Anon, you're just trying to irritate me, aren't you, you rascal?

>>81743221
IIRC she doesn't actually say "NO!" or "stop it!" or something like that.
More like "I d-don't know if..." which is what every slut who doesn't want to look like a slut would say anyway.
Also
>trusting what she says 100%
We know she lied when it came to Chink Chad and him throwing away the note.

How did clay kill hannah?
When he asked tony "did i kill hannah baker" and he said yes. How was that true?

>>81743311
Tony is a faggot mexican manlet, why do you trust him?

>>81734572
i watched it for the sole purpose of shitting on it on /tv/. i dont like shitting on things i havent watched.

>>81743311
Because he thinks they all killed her. Death by 1,000 cuts. Every once of them had opportunities to make some kind of positive difference in her life but didn't.

>>81743221
As >>81743288 said, she was an unreliable narrator and it should have been more played with to make it a really well written show. I hope the writers focus more on this aspect of her tapes for the upcoming season.

>>81743288
Time to rewatch to find out.

Y-you first

>>81743311
same thing for when toni asked if clay had seen a dead body. he said no. next episode he saw jeff die

>>81743311
because everybody is part of oppression. that's how it works. we're all guilty unless you're neither white or male.

>>81742742
>>81742991
wew. good thing i didnt waste more than 25 minutes with this shit.

>>81743311
he also left her alone in a room after she fucking told him to.
Thats literally it.

>>81743464
>Every once of them had opportunities to make some kind of positive difference in her life but didn't.
That's bullshit, Clay did basically everything possible, he insisted 3 times to stay with her but she literally screamed at him to go away (more than once).
So which is it? Are guys supposed to care about what girls say or not? Because you can't really have Bryce AND Clay be guilty at the same time.

justin did nothing wrong
zach did nothing wrong
clay did nothing wrong
>>81743311
he didn't. hannah killed hannah by acting like a stupid child over and over again

>>81743311
Clay did few things wrong

>>81743288
She did say no and tried to fight him off, but he's a 35 year old jock.

>>81743584
>believing /tv/'s misinterpretation of a scene

>When she gets PTSD from being kissed on a slide
>When she goes in to a spiral of suicidal depression after a piece of paper says she has the best ass

>>81743587
>Clay just felt guilty in the book and wished he had known

why did clay say " i made a girl kill herself because i was too afraid to love her". That didn't make any sense. He did love her and he also showed her that he loved her, so why?

>>81743673
Please give us your interpretation of her rape.

>>81743587
Getting rebuffed in that sex scene and not understanding why isn't his big offence. He blew her off several times when he was emotional and under the impression that she was trying to make everything about herself. He also just sort of floated in and out of her life, never making an effort to be with her.

>tfw made a short film adaptation of the book for a school project several years ago


Leave 13 Kinos Why to me....

Yes, it was crappy.

>>81743673
its not the scene. its the overall shitness. i fell asleep reading these posts. thats how boring it is.

>>81743729
>she said no and stop several times

>>81743715
because he was a fucking pussy who should have tried taking it further with her 6 months earlier. the point is that if she had even one close friend she might not have done it

>>81743747
So his biggest mistake....was being too beta....

>>81743108
Yes that's why I feel like it's really the worst feminist pandering ever
It's litteraly a case of women are always victim
She doesn't stand up for herself or her friends
She gets raped but doesn't actually manifest her non consent
She tell the truth to the shrink and he logically tell her that she can't do anything then, and she resent him for that
They have a sadistic pleasure to make everything as ambiguous as possible just like feminist do and then claimed she misoginy
when people doesn't reach the same conclusion
And while doing that they promote bad behavior to young girls who think that you don't have to contact the authorities after getting raped
They are litteraly crafting their own demises so they can bitch about it.
If this show was ironically making fun of feminist it would be Kino but we all know they are dead serious lol

But she got raped anyway, she tries to flee at first and you can see her heavily bruised. He also strictly fucked her from behind without even any affection.
But yeah good luck telling that to a judge, he's gonna walk scott free

Ps : but everyone knows Hannah lied and was raped by Justin, Bryce is innocent

>>81743747
>He blew her off several times when he was emotional and under the impression that she was trying to make everything about herself
He didn't, he only did so once, when his best friend died, aside from that he was always there for that.
>He also just sort of floated in and out of her life, never making an effort to be with her.
If their scenes together are an accurate representation of the rest we didn't see, he was basically pending from her lips for fuck's sake. And of course he didn't pursue her more directly, she's like 3 leagues above him.

>>81743858
>the shrink tells a traumatized person "you need to report this or move on haha guess you gotta move on!"

He barely tried.

What did you learn from this show?

>>81734572
Feminist propaganda garbage, but I still enjoyed it for nostalgic high school unrequited love feels.

>>81735212
so i'm not the only one. good to know this. thank you.

>>81743860
>He didn't, he only did so once, when his best friend died, aside from that he was always there for that.

This

>>81743926
Women are even more emotionally fragile than I thought, which means I can no longer rationalize them having the right to vote.

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>>81739640
>>81739380
>>81739215
>>81739114
>>81738754
>>81736431

>>81735212
>>81743956
Samefag detected

>>81740869
Sonichu is super mature by those standards.
I bet you'll like it

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>>81743926
Nothing I didn't already know.

>>81743926
Try to help everyone

>>81743770
POST IT

>>81743919
how could he know what happened? He asked her something like " did someone touch you without your consent" and she's like " uh yes kinda". How would anyone jump to the conclusion that she was violently raped from that response? If i was the shrink i would think that someone maybe grabbed her butt in the hallway or something like that and tell her the same thing.

>>81743919
Yeah, I mean i don't know what kind of service he has to produce since i'm not american and he should have called her parents or guided her to a shrink that's where he fucked up
But concerning the rape he did nothing wrong.
That's once again feminisn 101. They make it ambiguous. As a counselor he probably fucked up by letting her walk without guiding her to a shrink but we all know that's not what she, and girls, are mad about, they're mad he couldn't say "you got raped and bryce will be expelled"

Pretty dishonest desu

>>81734572
Furiously masturbating to Hannah who looks like an ex of mine

Didn't follow the plot

Dude men are all bad lmao:the show

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Did anybody else think Justin looked and talked like Jax from Sons of Anarchy? Like holy fuck they could be brothers.

>>81743860
> >He also just sort of floated in and out of her life, never making an effort to be with her.
Same with her. The most adventurous that she got was telling him
" some uber chad invited me to a valentine party but i don't know if i'll go"
What was she thinking ? "Oh let this chad down, instead go out with the weird loser without friend ! Me !"
Also as much as he was a total beta, she is the one who shut him off when they finally got together.

The school couselor did absolutely nothing wrong. Hannah was the one who ended the conversation by storming off the office.

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>>81743860
>he was basically pending from her lips for fuck's sake

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>>81743967
>men overwhelmingly voted for trump
>they're the right people to be making these decisions by themselves

>>81744346
Is that not a figure of speech in english? Sorry for that.
I meant "he was basically her slave".

Is the book any better?

>>81744272

Show aside, what a qt tho. Would def. get my life ruined by.

>>81744402
A) Women voted from Trump too.
B) Trump was a far better vote than that woman, even if he ends up nuking the earth.

>>81744449
You mean Justin?

>>81744406
Nope, and nope. He barely ever interacted with her. Even when they worked together they were mostly ships passing in the night.
>>81744472
>the idiot is better because he doesn't have a vagina
Wasn't the big argument you retards made that Trump WASN'T going to get us into more wars and conflicts?

>>81744489

Sorry bro no homo. It's funny tho, Clay looks like a typical Chad and is supposed to be the introvert nerd.

>>81744568
>Clay looks like a typical Chad
What kind of faggy area do you live in? He has zero muscle and a sad face.

>>81744105
NEVER

>>81744150
I don't think he needed to jump to that conclusion though, he should have pressed her to tell him more instead of telling her to move on.

>>81744156
He could have insisted IMO, and like you said, told her parents or guided her to a shrink. He also let her go

>>81744428
The book and the show should be an essential pair imo

>>81744538
I said, a better vote, not a better result. If you can't tell the difference between the two, fuck off.

>>81738487
We know for a fact that he raped Jessica and Hannah, and considering how easy it was for him and how little he thought about doing it, he probably wasn't a first time offender. Think about all the other girls he's raped. He's not a "bro" either he uses his power and wealth to manipulate people. The scene where he rapes Jessica he says "whats mine is yours, right?" To Justin. Bryce is most definitely a horrible person. Also, even if he only raped em both how is that "not that bad?" That's still fucking horrible.

The show did a good job portraying Clay'a guilt, but they should have doubled down on showing how his illusion was wrong

>>81744538
>Even when they worked together they were mostly ships passing in the night.
Yeah, all those ships you watch eclipses with.

>Justin wants to kill himself
>we're not supposed to feel sympathy for him even though the show establishes it

>>81744682
>the professional con man who was on both sides of every issue and couldn't form a coherent thought was the better vote
Keep telling yourself that, autismo.

>>81738339
>Star Wars
>target audience: 30's males

hmmmm thankang....

>ywn have a cool greaser friend with an awesome car and good life advice

>>81744708
>We know for a fact that he raped Jessica and Hannah
We don't. For all Bryce knows, Hannah was consenting even if not enthustiastic at first.

>>81744720
>one time they did a thing
>that means they spent every day together
Are you being retarded on purpose? Clay would muster up a little bit of courage every 6 months, make some sort of romantic overture, and then puss out at the last minute.

>>81744759
>still so mad
Love your tears mate.

>>81744716
this show would be a lot better if they explained how hannahs perspective wasnt entirely accurate. maybe the asian girl would seem less evil then.

>>81744827
>it's an "anon doesn't understand movies can't literally show every single moment of the characters' lives so the just show those that can make us understand what their relationship was like" episode

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>>81744831
>lol u mad i was retarded?
>lol u mad

>>81744791
>We don't
>two witnesses can confirm he did for Jessica

>>81744880
stop replying m8, your blood pressure is going to shoot up.
Also, thank god for brexit.

>>81744878
The fact that Clay wasn't a steady part of her life is a fucking plot point, retard. And it's a 13-episode series, not a movie.

>>81744836
exactly. Asian jock basiacally proved that she lied about him to make him look worse.
So why should you even believe anything she says from that point on?

>>81744836
Nah that girl fucked up, fuck her. Hannah was victim of her being a dumbass

>>81744912
I didn't object to the Jessica part, did I?

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>>81744982
You negated both breddah

>>81744940
>The fact that Clay wasn't a steady part of her life is a fucking plot point
She literally never says anything like that.

>>81745012
Yeah, if you say "it's true both that yellow is darker than black and that grass is green" I can say "that's false" and be right even if grass is in fact green.

>>81744949
She didn't lie, she was just wrong. And the asian jock never bothered to correct her, even though he knew right away what she thought.
>>81745022
Yes she did, and so did Clay. Clay was by himself more than he was with her, even when they were in the same cafeteria.

>>81745073
>Clay was right next to her as much as it's possible while being on the job and probably being all starry-eyed whenever they talked but hey that's not enough for dumb egocentric whore

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>some anon whom you told to kill himself might have actually killed himself

>>81745169

The world is better off without weak-willed suicidal faggots anyway.

>>81745126
Spotted the turbo-virgin.

>>81745169
really gets the nogging cloggin

I wonder how many deaths I am responsible for

I really like this show but only for the plight of Clay. Hannah was just dumb at times which made it harder to be sympathetic towards her. (Drinking with Courtney) Still doesn't make what happened to her right, though.

Suicide scene & clay talking to the counselor was kino

>>81745073
i don't remember it that well but i think she said on the tape that asian jock scrunched up her heartfelt letter that she wrote to him and threw it on the ground eventhough that never happened because he actually folded it and kept it

>>81745276
>no more arguments
Thank you anon for conceding victory.

>>81738487

Bryce is depicted as a totally spoiled rich asshole in both the book and the show. He would not be bros with your nerdy ass in high school, so why defend him?

>>81745493
Because people like being edgy contrarians that go against the grain, I find the Bryce apologists pretty funny

>>81745493
Except he acted quite friendly towards Clay until he decided to accuse him of rape.
And he helped fatherless dude many times.
Bryce was a total bro

>>81738575

Teens overreact and sometimes they kill themselves over it. I don't think the point is "don't be a bully" so much as it is that Hannah was in that space where she really needed help and nobody was there to stop her. Some people on the tapes, like Clay, didn't even bully her.

>>81745342
>if i have a crash on a girl and do nothing about it she should know that and fuck me where i stand!
>why are girls so cryptic and emotional?!
>>81745336
He threw a piece of paper on the ground, she thought it was her note and called him a name, he looked back, knew what she thought, and walked away anyway.

>>81745291
>I wonder how many deaths I am responsible for
That sounds disgustingly self-centered.

>>81745585
How so? Honestly it was just a meme

>>81745580
>if i have a crash on a girl and do nothing about it she should know that and fuck me where i stand!
What? I've never said anything like that. Setting aside that Clay was right in not pursuing her more directly given she was far out of his league, that's not the point. If she liked him so much, why not ask him out? And why freak out so bad after you finally get together? And why not try to repair the situation afterwards? Because she was a spoiled egocentric brat.

>>81744791
Bryce knew exactly what he was doing. He grabbed her wrists and held them down hard as fuck.

New thread

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>>81745640
Instead of thinking about the victim side in the suffering people here might have caused to others, you looked at the side of those who caused it. If sincere, it sounded like "Look at me, how bad I am".

>>81745688
>implying girls don't like that.
Dude, seriously?

>>81745719
Oh I don't disagree. However, the only truly effective way you can stop yourself from doing shitty things is to look at others/yourself to find what led them/you to doing those things, that way you can stop yourself in the future.

>>81745751
Sure, some girls like that but rewatch the scene, she was wringing her wrists trying to get free. She even says "bryce, please" and tries to get out of the bathtub. He holds down her wrists and says "c'mon were just having some fun" (the exact thing he says when he was raping jessica)

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>>81738339

>Star Wars
>target audience: 30's males

>>81743587

Hannah herself said Clay was innocent of any wrongdoing. Clay reached the conclusion that he could have stayed and pressed harder on his own.

>>81746001
and yet she still tortured him by not revealing to the end that he didn't do anything wrong.

>>81746130
She literally says that he doesn't deserve a tape and he didn't do anything wrong. Watch the episode again.

>>81746381
After about 8 episodes of him torturing himself, not to mention tony fucking taunting him the whole time on Hannah's orders.

>>81745169
this is literally the reaosn why I never tell anyone to kill themselves online

>>81746474
I really didn't think of that, but you're right. To be fair though, everybody else binged the tapes in like one night, clay was the only one who for some reason took a whole fucking week or something. In the book I'm pretty sure he listens to it all one night.

>>81736713
kinda true in that I would only really blame bryce.
but i think without all the pre-bullshit she not have offed herself