Guys how do we save the MCU?

> Literally fighting over one side of capeshit over the other

You do know comics are for little children right? Are you genuinely emotionally invested in dudes dressing up in spendex punching evil bad guys?

From making money and being enjoyed by people?

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>>81732614
>muh all capeshit is the same Disney's cancer
Go away outsider.

>>81732558
You better edit that pic, because Jo Sweden is coming your way.

DC (Snyder-era)
>good story and themes
>shit execution
>bad experience
MCU
>dumb plot
>great production
>good experience

MC is fine since even after all those films people still want to see.
DC has the most iconic heroes and still doesn't come close.

>>81732652
I don't understand why all these DCposts ignore the actually pretty gud CIA/nolan batman movies and cling to heavy-handed Snyder crap

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>>81732768
>>MCU
>>great production
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>81732558
MCU is fine. DCUE tries to play with interesting concepts but bungles them with bad writing, stupid filters and atrocious editing.

left
>Let's grimdark our shit up and mangle all our iconic characters in the process. Member Nolan? That shit was deep yo.

right
>Let's put our beloved characters on the big screen for everyone to enjoy some silly power fantasies

>>81732927
Compared to DC, they are masterpieces.

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>>81732913
They're both good but Snyder ones are more rewarding to rewatch as he goes full autism with every frame. I would say you don't really appreciate them until you've seen them 2-3 times and catch all the build-up and callbacks. Nolan movies are more plot oriented and while great aren't as fulfilling to rewatch.

>>81732652
Why are you calling people outsider, /vg/ tourist?

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>>81732951
No they're not. Atleast DC nails the basics of filmmaking and actually conveys the feel of comic books into the big screen.

>>81732981
His frame autism is bad though, yes it looks pretty but it disrupts the actual flow of the film with stupid pretty pictures. They took away his slow-mo for BvS though so I guess that's something to be thankful for.

>>81733005
>outsider wasn't here during the TDK days
You can bitch and whine about how bad capeshit is but it shows you're just incredibly butthurt that Marvel is so childish and shit compared to DC and Fox.

>>81733040
No it doesn't. Good photography doesn't disrupt from a film. The opposite applies. But I understand you trying to paint it as a negative. After all, having to defend the MCU, you are more or less forced to defend bad photography and visual effects.

>>81732927
literally a 1 sec shot.

>>81733082
Good photography and cinematics are great unless you have 15 minutes of looking at scenery in the middle of a dramatic moment or action sequence. He has no sense of priority. I think someone must have helped him on BvS cause it IS a lot better than his standard fare, slow mo being one of the noticable differences.

>>81733085
All of Civil War is like that. It's hilarious seeing people defend Civil War only to turn around and nitpick the smallest aspects of BvS.

Really makes ya think....

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>>81733030
>actually conveys the feel of comic books into the big screen.
more like the feel of videogame cutscenes

>>81733112
What scene in BvS is 15 minutes looking into the scenery?

I honestly feel sorry for you. The Stockholm Syndrome of suffering 15 MCU films and you come out criticizing good cinematography because Kevin Feige has ruined all your standards. It's quite sad really.

>>81733054
Why are you pretending you were? Do you not remember the review that changed everything? Of course you don't because you weren't actually here.

>>81732913
Also the Burton Batman movies.

They're just trolls or retards too heavily invested in the idea of a cinematic universe.

>>81733030
>nails the basics of filmmaking
That is all it is doing for time being. Nothing memorable.
Then again only two films have come out. Maybe they do something.
>conveys the feel of comic books
I haven't catch up with recent series but they look nowhere to what I have read.

>>81733119
Superhero vs Superhero action on BvS starts at 2 hours into the film

>>81733159
Mind you, fraud fucking scum
The same thing happened with Inception which you were also not here for.

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>>81733123
Man of Steel is a visual masterpiece. And one that several MCU directors attempted to ape and failed at. Snyder is the geniune material. MCU directors the Chinese fake.

>>81733149
It wasn't so much an issue in BvS but it was definitely a problem with Watchmen and 300, Sucker Punch was nothing but. I don't remember MoS cause it's been a while, BvS is his best film by a large margin and even then some of the scenes with the weird corn field looking shit are extra drawn out. Lots of time spent spinning around statues and stuff. Establishing shots are also a bit longer than they could have been but I think whoever led that editing team did a pretty good job.

>>81733159
You weren't here during the TDK days. It shows. Capeshit wasn't even a term until Avengers came and ruined the genre. You want to drag down the whole genre into Disney's disgustingly shallow standards. That is failing.

>>81732614
>You do know comics are for little children right?

No. They're for teens and adults. Comics are not, nor have ever been, for children.

Good capeshit:
Burton Batman films
First 2 Nolan Batman films
Raimi Spiderman films
A few of the Xmen films

Shit capeshit:
MCU
DCU

>>81733188
You can go to the doctor for a box of Ritalin.

>>81733196
It's funny that the only colorful shots in the movie have to have the source of light directly in it, otherwise...

>It's gotta be cool and dark and serious man.
-Zack "Retard" Snyder- 2013

>>81732981
Damn, this is poetry.
Cucks at Marvel will never be this creative, all they do is quip quip and quip

>>81733220
Once again you refuse to amswer the questions. The term capeshit came from /co/ you fucking Swedish video game playing 2016 tourist. This is really good though
We have another tactic by frauds like you that can easily show if you were really here now

>>81733253
I enjoyed it at the cinema, but when someone wants to watch it with me i think

"Fuck, 2 hours of watching Lex Luthor develop Tourettes syndrome"

IM RICH

>>81733272
Nothing you said applies to MoS. As already proved, MoS is a visual masterpiece and your inability to display anything better by the MCU is telling enough.

But it's fine, you can keep repeat yourself like the mad man you are. Nobody's falling for it.

>>81733306
>/co/cksucker suddenly attempts to play in
You weren't here during the TDK days. That much is clear. You whine about an entire genre we used to discuss daily because you desperately want Marvel's low standards to be the standard. And that's why your kind is cancer.

>>81733119
>nitpick the smallest aspects of BvS
Like what ? Like the fact that the movie is called "Batman Versus Superman" but in the trailer 2 they literally tell you they become allies and fight doomsday in the third act ?

>>81733244
This
Dubs don't lie

>>81733365
Are you thick on purpose?

>>81733351
>he doesn't even acknowledge the review because he wasn't here and has no fucking clue
I love it
Anything to get away from this to keep pretending you were here. I even gave you a hint with the initial post yet you still couldn't figure it out.

Cannot stop laughing you fucking actual newshit

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>capeshit

>>81733437
Go on. Keep whining over "capeshit is for kids". You would love that wouldn't you? You would love if this board just stopped throwing shit at your beloved Marvels. And to do that, you desperately attempt to brand discussion of the genre unwanted here, DESPITE THE FACT THAT WE HAD DAILY TDK THREADS A DECADE AGO, BUT YOU WEREN'T HERE FOR THAT.

Literally kill yourself you disgusting shill. Also remove Kevin Feige's cock from your mouth. I can barely read your butthurt posts with that shitty sentence structure.

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>>81732558
>capeshits

>>81733196
> blue and orange scenes all the time like a freaking Michael Bay film
> characters posed using rule of third all the time
> lighting flares for drama all the time
As someone said above they are only following first-class cinematography guidelines. A masterpiece has to do more than follow others work. Also, a film needs a good flow besides being pretty on screenshots. Else Snyder is just a good photographer.

>>81733519
>>81733466
The filename and timing ousts you samefagging there.

>>81732981
>muh color filtars and after effects
The shitty dialogue and script make it extra sophisticated.

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>>81733545
>dude colors are bad why aren't they washed out grey like muh Marvels

>>81733327
who gives a shit if the hired a good cinematographer, it does not make up for the shit editing, shit characters, shit writing, shit acting and shit color correction

>>81733273
No, those are some over saturated scenes with lots of gesturing. You can't be serious about this shit, you're just doing it for replies.

>>81732981
>fulfilling
so pseudo intellectual shit that makes you feel 'smart' because you get references?
your reply could describe sucker punch as well, there is more than meets the eye but that doesn't unfortunately change the movie being total unredeemable pile of shit

>>81733597
>call everything shit
>Civil War? A MODERN DAY MASTERPIECE!

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>Another DC Vs Marvel thread


There's powerful shill faggotry at work here

>>81733030
>actually conveys the feel of comic books into the big screen.

The absolute closest thing is The Avengers, and that is very sad.

>>81733549
>2017
>doesn't know how to check for samefag
not that I expected anything from someone who enjoys capeshits

>>81732768
>good story
>Snyder
>>81732927
HAHAHAHAHA WHERE R LE COLOR FILTARS? ARE THEY SERIOUS OMG
IS THAT... SUNLIGHT? WHAT ARE MARVELKEKS EVEN DOING?
These movies and the internet drama around them fried your brain, deal with it.

>>81733580
>banding
>obvious shitty encode
>blames the film
Provide a good screenshot first.

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>>81733605
You know, the attempt of intellectualism beats intentional retardation and infantilization as displayed by Marvel any day of the week.

>>81733490
>capeshit is for kids
Ctrl f only shows you saying that, pretender.
The rest of your plebian is adorable too. The fact that you have no idea about the review that changed it all is enough proof that you weren't here. It's ironic too because you probably use the same reviewer to defend your outsider approved flick as well

Keep going though. It gets funnier watching you try each post. Maybe you can named abatap or something about lost too :^)

>>81733622
Civil War is not a masterpiece but it is way better than every DCEU movie

>>81733649
>story
>Snyder
What the director has to do with the script?

>>81733661
Post a good screenshot then. I'll wait. If no screenshot provided, I'll consider you a liar.

>>81733426
I try really hard but i can't shed those few pounds, not my fault dude

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>>81733597
>>81733600
>>81733605
>>81733628
>>81733643
>>81733649
Marvel shill at work.

Here is a >YOU

>>81733667
>Ctrl f only shows you saying that, pretender.
Literally the first reply you giant Mickey Mouse cocksucker >>81732614

>>81733663
So youre behind this spam too Swedish video game player?
http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/filename/orange%20slices/

This is very interesting

>>81733694
Snyder works on the scripts as well, and we were discussing the movies he made, not him specifically.

>>81733663
Sure but that's comparing dog shit to horse shit
They are both still shit

>>81733697
The same (tell where it is from) or different one within MCU?

>>81733663
>the attempt of intellectualism beats intentional retardation
Not really, it just becomes unintentional retardation. You have no higher intellectual ground, capeshitter. You just deluded yourself into thinking so.

>>81733726
But this is my first reply >>81733005 you fraud. Are you going to acknowledge the review or just keep reporting my posts you snitch

>>81733722
>capeshits are bad
>REE FUCKING MARVEL
It's fucking sad the lengths you people go to try and defend your pleb action schlock
Like imagine people calling out people who don't like Transformers out for being 'haters'
this is what you soudn

>>81733663

BvS has consistently bad dialogue throuoit the whole film, i don't know why you assume that pic related is a good argument

>>81733727
>google file name means it's the same person
You must think yourself a fancy hacker for using that site but you just look more retarded without knowing how it works.

>>81733722
>implying this hard
Im a big fan of DC comics and its an absolute shame what snyder is doing with the cinematic universe. Anyone who disagrees has never read a good comic.

>>81733795
BvS dialouge is completely fine, especially when compared to the shallow and quip-oriented dialouge found in many blockbusters, including Marvels.

>>81733791
Seems to me like you are just defending your shitty pleb action Marvel movies with quips, shill

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>MFW transformers has a better CU than DC

>>81732558
>how do we save the DCEU?
Rated-R Lobo movie just like Deadpool

>>81733622
I didn't say it was, don't put words in my mouth m8

>>81733722
>Nobody can't call Zaddy out on his incompetence! It must be marvel paying people to bully me.
Nah, you're just a retard with shit taste who watches superhero movies as an adult. Then you have the gall to pretend some brand of audiovisual diarrhea is smarter than the other.
You're a waste.

I'm a big fan of Marvel and it's absolutely shame to see what Kevin Feige has done with it. Anyone that disagrees with me is wrong!!!1!

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>>81733841
Transformers have even better CU than shitty overrated MCU, famlam

>>81733832
>BvS dialouge is completely fine
Except for the parts where people talk to each other.
It's funny how people gave Chris Nolan shit for some awkward and ominous dialogue. They didn't know what manner of bullshit was to follow.

>>81733625
OP is a /v/edditor from Swedenstan
It's all his fault

>>81733861
>m-muh childish genre as demanded by Disney stop reeeee
This all goes back to the start where you got ousted as the big outsider you are. Remember browsing /tv/ during the TDK days? No you don't because you're a massive newfag. This Marvel cancer infestation didn't even become a thing until Avengers 2.

>>81733841
>tfw so inebriated in your attention whoring stupor, you start praising transformers unironically
This board is gr8. I rate it an 8 out of 8, and please don't h8.

>>81733804
>uh i-it's googles filename I swear its just a coincidence that we all have the dame style of posting!!
holy shit this is hilarious. do you really fucking spend your whole day making capeshit threads if you're not posting about video games?

>>81733838
Yeah that's what I'm saying, you have shitty action movie dicks so far up your ass you see "enemies" everywhere.

>>81732558
Such a shitty forced meme. And it will only get worse when The Quipstice League comes out and the DCucks pretend the quips don't exist but are also hilarious.

>>81733925
>le reddit lines

you need to go back

>>81733942
Is that why your ass gets on fire the moment someone shits on your shitty Marvels?

>>81733895
>This all goes back to the start where you got ousted as the big outsider you are.
I wasn't here when the thread starter, maybe you should stop spamming capeshit all day if you don't like being confronted about it.

>>81733832
This I actually agree with, although I don't get the sudden hate for quips on /tv/. Why does shit have to be miserable?

>>81733895
But I'm >>81733786 not >>81733861
Why won't you answer your mentally ill fraud

kill all supes

>>81733961
>mfw JL humor will be actually good because it's written by human beings and not suits running focus tests on kids
And you'll hate every second of it MCUck.

>>81733832
Completely fine?

>Lex Luthor rambling about nothing every time he appears and doing 70 versions of "Hoh, huh, hmm"

>Martha scene

>Don't give me a jar of piss and call it grandma's peach tea

>>81733970
Nah, they are fucking awful as well, feel free to shit on them as much as you like, it's just sensible to do really.

>>81733967
>-uh m.-mm zaddy uh---.... red-reddit uhgh!!
DCucks truly are paragons of intellect and mature discussion of film. Thank you, Snyder.

>>81734002
>mfw JL humor will be actually good

>what's your superpower
>rich

JAJAJAJAJA EL JUSTO

>>81734007
>Lex Luthor rambling about nothing
Damn must suck being a brainlet

Are these Marvel fanboys geniunely happy with the state of the MCU? Like did people actually enjoy Dr Strange and Civil War? I don't understand why they're so defensive.

>>81734032
But his name is Bruce, not Richard. What did he mean by that? Also, how is being called Rich a superpower? Zack Snyder really makes you think, he's like the Hitchcock of our generation.

>>81734079
I actually didn't hate Dr. Strange even though it was 99.9% CGI that had nothing to do with cumhatch. Even he didn't ruin it, definitely flick.

Why does the swede always report when he starts the kick off? When did neets become so soft?

>>81733030
>Atleast DC nails the basics of filmmaking and actually conveys the feel of comic books into the big screen.
>atrocious editing, writing and dialogue
>basics of filmmaking

But hey at least they can do pretty pictures to go with their mess

>>81734002
>my second favorite chair
>I'm rich, bitch!
Truly pathetic.

>>81734111
>Marvel shill got banned for shilling and proceeds to leak blood because of it
It's funny even the mods now know Disney shills are a problem and have put up several stickies to contain you. You are visible. You're not subtle. They know.

>>81734111
Did you see that ludicrous display last night?

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>when you want to compete with Marvel but remember you're DC

>>81734033
He forgets the lines for a speech for no reason.

Then he acts like a mentally ill Johnny Depp character in front of Superman for no reason, which leads into the fight, and the fight only happens because everyone involved is retarded.

>>81734186
>He forgets the lines for a speech for no reason.
That's because you are a brainlet. And it's sad how you don't even realize it.

>>81733244
I wish we could go back to the time when we all pretty much agreed on this. Fuck DCshilling. Worst meme.

>>81733426
T H I C C

>>81734210
Explain it to me, ¿Why did Lex Luthor needed to have that public breakdown?" my silly silly brain didn't catch that between all the symbolism and visual storytelling

>>81733196
>Man of Steel is a visual masterpiece.
Not depicted: constant use of handicam in scenes that did not warrant it. Notice how the DCuck mouthbreather is impressed by color filters and lens flares.
It's like, so deep, man. Just smoke a bowl and turn your brain off.

>>81734289
what public breakdown? he was just autistic and jumped around in his thoughts a lot.

>>81734289
You really need an explanation why a mentally unstable person is having a meltdown when talking about something very frustrating and personal to him? I guess you do, because you're a brainlet.

>>81734136
Shilling? I asked you about the review to prove you were here in 08 and you cried to the mods AGAIN. I know this because I use the /tv/ fucking irc that has our janitor you snitch submitting false reports.
>>81734154
No post it

>>81733426
I prefer the term BBM thanks.

>>81734306
Show me an MCU equivalent. I'll wait.

>>81734172
autistic post but good filename

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>>81734306
Yeah, snyderisms are the worst part about snyder films.

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>>81733933
bump and you do know that just because youve been caught doesn't mean you need to shill these threads right?

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>>81734363
>OMG visuale referdancers n religious symbolisms lmao
Fucking capeshitters.

>>81734383
More like wachoski-isms. Can't that hack develop a style of his own?

>>81734332
That's my point, Lex Luthor is not like that, actual comic book Lex Luthor is not crazy, but this idiot just rambles because...

>He's unstable d00d, he is Krazy
-Zack "Slo-mo dick rider" Snyder- 2015

>>81734383
ugh, just realized the aspect is fucked too.

>>81734416
You are dodging. I asked you a specific question and you back away. And no, a few promo shots doesn't prove anything at all. In fact, you're the one doing what you claim to hate, while capturing none of the substance in MoS's photography.

Try again, in earnest this time.

>>81734327
In the presentation where Bruce Wayne meets Clark Kent and Lex gives a speech even though he can barely make a sentence without having a small spasm

>>81734473
>Lex Luthor is not like that
Pretty sure he was like that in BvS. Did you watch a different film? Oh wait, you're going to pretend you care about the comics again and how film should be a slave to comics. A familiar rant.

>>81734503
>And no, a few promo shots doesn't prove anything at all

the moving van just arrived - they asked where you want the goalposts sent to.

>>81734473
Yeah but arguing that a movie adaptation isn't true to the source is a retarded argument, too. Nobody cares what attachments you have to comic books, this is different. I kinda like this movie Lex.

>>81734527
Sure, he's a weirdo internet genius archetype. It fits well enough.

>>81734538
Okay, but we can agree that Lex Luthor is supposed to be smart, right?

>>81734544
So promotional shots now count? Funny I don't recall seeing those shots in the actual series. And if you think those boring ass desktop photoshoot even comes close, then your ignorance is showing.

I am really talking to a massive retard here.

>>81734589
>I am really talking to a massive retard here.

i'm not the one defending DC here, pajeet

>>81734503
There is no substance to MoS's photography, it's literally color filters and lens flares. Zack Snyder has gone on record saying he does it because it looks cool.
Have fun with your new clothes, emperor. Mise en scene alone does not for compelling film make.

>>81734578
He is smart. He outplays just about everyone in the story except Superman.

>>81734626
He doesn't seem to get involved with batman at all, though they mention it. Batman was just a dick that wanted to kill superman for no reason as far as I can tell. Maybe cause superman yelled at him?

>>81734567
>weirdo internet genius
Just to be clear, he's supposed to be playing Lex Luthor not the facebook guy again.

>>81734399
Wow, this guy is worst than the autistic Finnish image.jpg poster

>>81734616
You get a 7 out of 10 for that excellent dodge. I know it's very hard for you to find MCU material that is actually worth showing off but atleast put in the effort next time. Or you did put in the effort and came out empty-handed. Which also makes sense I guess.

>>81734567
I think that is where i stopped enjoying the DC films

Superman is not like comic book Superman
Batman is not like comic book Batman
Lex Luthor is not like comic book Lex Luthor
Etc etc.

>>81734589
>Funny I don't recall seeing those shots in the actual series.
That's funny, I remember every single one of those scenes in the series. You probably don't pay attention to the things you watch. Probably why you jerk off to stills.

>>81734661
>He doesn't seem to get involved with batman at all,
That's because you are brainlet and missed out on the scenes where he was feeding Batman false information.

>>81734544
You're such a dipshit.

Explain how those promo shots tie into *anything* going on in that season. One fucking thing. You can't, because they're precisely what you accuse Snyder of - empty mimicry, even though his fans can tie it all back to themes that have been running since the first scene in MoS.

Calling it "headcanon" only makes you look like an obstinate petty little fucktard at this point.

>>81734700
Burn. Also checked.

>>81734677
Well there's so many different comic book versions of every DC character it's amazing comic guys have kept up thus far. I really just want Batman to stay close to the TDKR version in a justice league setting. That's the only one where Affleck can possibly fit anyway and you can tell snyder took VISUAL inspiration from. Directly. Blatantly. He did switch the meaning backwards and it worked out interestingly from a probably-accidental fridge logic kind of perspective.

>>81734662
Well they hired eisenberg for a reason.

>>81734707
But he wasn't feeding batman false information, batman knew he was after kryptonite from day 1.

>>81734730
>Explain how those promo shots tie into *anything* going on in that season. One fucking thing. You can't, because they're precisely what you accuse Snyder of - empty mimicry, even though his fans can tie it all back to themes that have been running since the first scene in MoS.
That's really the irony of it all and why he's a disgusting person and not worth replying to anymore.

Complain about one thing, then do exactly that and then fall back on nothing.

>>81734399
See, this is the real problem. Nobody gives a shit if you enjoy capeshit, DC, Snyder's movies or whatever. The problem is that you need to spam these fucking movies constantly, every day, begging for people to agree with you. Several times a day.
You need to stop, there are thousands of movies better suited for continued discussion out there. People are just tired of your shit and your constant attempts at a circlejerk.
You're spamming the board and not much else.

>>81734758
>But he wasn't feeding batman false information
UH OH THE BRAINLET MISSED OUT ON INFORMATION AGAIN

SHOULD SOMEONE EXPLAIN?

>>81734669
he's swedish neet from /v/ that only came to /tv/ because of star wars 7
did you really expect anything more?

>>81733196
>It's yet another colorgrading 101 orange/blue contrast fuckfest.
>visual masterpiece

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>>81734399
>tfw no range ban for Sweden

>>81734791
Batman met up with the "russian" mercenary guy going after portuguese whatever obstensibly going after some dirty bomb? But he admitted later that he was just lying about that and was after kryptonite.

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VISUAL MASTERPIECE

>>81734669
He also the Swedish version of Krager

>>81734849
What was on the news? Why was it on the news?

>>81734955
the news parts were way later, batman was after kryptonite from like the first scene after the zodd fight.

>>81734926
It's a beautiful image, and it perfectly conveys what's wrong about Clark's approach - he's so preoccupied with playing "Super Rescue Man" that he's oblivious to the image he's presenting to the world.

>>81734992
Batman didn't actually decide on fighting Superman until a good way into the movie. Before that, he wanted the Kryptonite as a safety mechanism against Superman, not as a weapon. That all changed as the media started to wear him down painting Superman as a harbinger of death. Conveniently enough the work of Lex Luthor orchestrating the attacks.

>>81734626
Is he smart?

He tries to get Superman to kill batman, and tells him his entire plan and just HOPES that Superman doesn't tell Batman, which he doesn't because he is also an idiot.

Superman forgets he has X-Ray vision and super hearing and goes to Batman.

Then Superman doesn't talk about Lex Luthor's plan and actually starts fighting Batman.

And the first thing Batman tries is to kill Superman with machine guns because he is retarded as well.He saw him go trough buildings like nothing but maybe a 50 cal can do the job

Then they fight and Superman takes a Kriptonite Gas grenade to the face, which is fine, but then tries to actually kill Batman with a decapitating punch to the head.

Then they fight some more, and Superman sees batman reload the grenade launcher for 10 seconds (i counted) and does nothing, i guess he forgot about his own super speed.

And after the fight, we find out that Lex had planned to

Lex is an idiot for thinking that Superman would not approach Batman in a better way.

Superman is an idiot for throwing batman multiple times instead of asking him for help.

Batman is an idiot because he decided to use Kriptonite (which as far as he knows, is the only thing that hurts kriptonians) as 3 grenades (that dissolve into the air) and 1 spear head buried on the other side of the building.

>>81734926
>MCU will never have a scene as kino as the Day of the Dead segment
How does it feel? Snyder captures more in 5 minutes of BvS than 15 films of MCU have managed to convey put together.

>>81732614
It's a proxy war, goober.

>>81734992
Yeah, basically, Bruce knew what the "White Portuguese" was bringing into the country, but at that point, he still didn't know that it was referring to a ship, not a person.

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>>81734730
>Explain how those promo shots tie into *anything* going on in that season.
Karen digging around death and murder, Frank is David holding the head of Goliath, a man willing to face overwhelming odds for what he believes is right. Matt represents St. Sebastian, a martyr. Just like Matt, willing to sacrifice himself for the sake of others.

It's not heavy handed because Daredevil is a show about a religious character and the morality he inherited from that background.
Then there's this, from Michaelangelo's Last Judgment. I'm sure you can infer what it refers to on your own. I think it's better to get this sort of in your face imagery in promo shots, instead of awkwardly cramming it inside a movie for no apparent reason.

>>81732558
Quality of Marvel films have definitely been going downhill.. I loved Iron Man 1, but somehow all the films they made after that have been garbage.

It's like watching the same film over and over again. The coloring/gradient is the same. The soundtrack is shit and I mean I like fun just as everyone but some of the quips are really forced.

Marvel's problem now lies in it's IP since they have no good stories left to make into a movie. They need Fox's license (which will never happen) in order to save their skin.

I honestly prefer DC at this point because they actually try to do something different but somehow the movies they make are always polarizing. Still, if they want to they can always do a hard reboot of their universe with The Flash.

>>81734926
Need moar lens flares desu pham baka

>>81733812
Let me oblige:

>good
>comic

Pick one.

>>81735118
>but somehow all the films they made after that have been garbage.
Do you know why? Disney acquisition. That's why there is a considerable drop in quality for Marvel after Iron Man. Favreau's Iron man 2 got completely redone by Disney who wanted a more family friendly version.

>>81734930
Well, at least Krager is a cool guy, unlike that Swedish /v/edditor
Krager also whiter than him

>>81735039
I mean that's an interpretation sure, but batman DID want the kryptonite. Superman had no fucking idea batman was literally stealing kryptonite to kill him when they first met. I don't know if batman HAD plans or not.

>>81735106
The only information that WAS leaked to batman was the russian merc's phone clone and that is where he got the ship stuff from. It's really hard to say when he actually started giving fucks about superman but it's before they met or any of the media shit happened. I guess the middle east whatever happened, but that's not something batman deals in anyway.

If there is a set plan of Lex to fuck with batman specifically, it is not portrayed well. Considering Lex was stalking other meta-people I guess he could have prepared for batman to prepare for superman. He was a smart dude.

>>81735078
Zack Snyder can not hide his analogies for shit.

Symbolism is supposed to be subtle.

I am amazed that Superman doesnt have a giant beard and a crown of spikes

>>81735171
Batman was preparing himself, as in classical Batman fashion. He didn't have faith that Superman would forever be good, so he goes out for the kryptonite. But it's during the process of the film and Bruce's development his view of Superman worsening to the point where he basically admits to himself that this is going to be his suicide fight against a God. It starts of as a precaution and it turns into a self-fulfilling prophecy. And this descent is further fueled by Lex who keeps feeding images to him of Superman's supposed destruction.

Lex is absolutely instrumental in Batman's conflict with Superman.

>>81735118
>I honestly prefer DC at this point because they actually try to do something different
But that's the thing, though. They don't. Every time people complain about something in those movies, they go back and fuck with them. Not enough quips? Let's reshoot Suicide Squad, and cram a joke here and there in BvS. No retaliation for Metropolis' destruction in MoS? Let's make the next movie about that. Not enough character development? Let's have a scene of Lois and Clark made completely awkward by Cavill's lack of being an actor. Let's also ape Guardians of the Galaxy by making Suicide Squad have even more licensed music just for lols.
It seems every step of the way WB is playing catch up, adapting to whatever Disney does and neutering people who have some manner of style or voice in favor of trying to follow the trend.
So no, I don't think they're trying to be different. They're trying to be marvel and completely sucking at it.

>>81735078
Ohhh are you talking about that scene where mexicans touch Superman?, that is fucking retarded as well

Why is there a DotD parade outside of a burning hospital?

And what makes it fucking dumber is that the movie takes place in June (i believe), DotD is in November

>>81735201
You still believe him to be Jesus when he is clearly portrayed as something God-like to mankind, not exclusive to one religion.

>Horus, Apollo, Jehova
And so on, Lex goes. Your obsession with Christ makes me suspect that maybe you're a mudslime? Is it true?

>>81735171
>If there is a set plan of Lex to fuck with batman

Lex says to Supes on the tower that he was keeping an eye on both Bruce and Batman and Bats was getting more aggressive. Also Lex was manipulating Bats with survivors of Wayne building like Keefe.

And when Bruce goes Lex's home to put device on the system, Mercy clearly sees Bruce but doesnt do anything about it.

>>81735294
>>81735371
I know what he SAID he did, I was saying it wasn't shown. He also sent Clark after the batman which prompts batman to go nuts in response anyway. Double batman gambit is not something that should happen in a 2 hour film.

>>81735365
It's not me
Zack Snyder is the one who believes Superman is Christ himself

>>81735078
>I don't know why it's good but I'm just gonna call it kino. These plebs are just going to eat it up, lmao.
While using references and symbolism, the first thing you need to do is ask why. Why does it fit with whatever I'm doing and how does it further the point. Snyder never does this step, he just puts it there cause it's kewl.

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>>81735391
>I was saying it wasn't shown
If it wasn't shown, how come we know about it and came to the same conclusion?

BvS is not a film for brainlets. Mad man Snyder is hated for shitting on barely functional fanboys.

>>81735401
You are correct
See >>81735328

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>>81735365
>You still believe him to be Jesus when he is clearly portrayed as something God-like to mankind, not exclusive to one religion.
Oh do fuck off.

>>81733988
This is just copied from March of the Penguins

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>DC/Marvel thread
>discussion ALWAYS veers into BvS because MCU is so fucking uninteresting in every possible way

>>81732558
>the equivalent of a guy taking baths in a tub of money needs saving

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>>81735443
You first mudslime

>>81735463
It isn't, see
>>81735110
Your favorite movie is a joke, though.

>>81735463
Because there is so much content to be shat on in BvS

>>81735506
A post so shit nobody even bothered to reply. Sad you have to quote yourself so someone will bother.

>>81735429
There was evidence of lex meddling in bruce wayne shit of course, that's a big plot point... in his fucking with superman. I think the big problem is the placement of batman stealing kryptonite before deciding to kill superman. Yes, that is part of batman's character but it isn't evidenced WITHIN the film. Self containment is so important and its tough to accomplish in the capekino. It isn't a movie killer though like snyder's awful direction can be.

>>81735531
You replied, lol
Kill yourself and live stream it

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>>81735496
Lol'd at the furious /pol/ mouthbreather looking for muslims on 4chan.

>>81735518
And every time you try, you get BTFO hard, just as you are now with the Lex complaints.

>B-BUT IT WASN'T SHOWN WHY IS THIS MOVIE IMPLYING STUFF WITHOUT SHOVING IT DOWN MY THROAT
Well, there's always Marvel I guess.

>>81735531
>A post so shit nobody even bothered to reply
Yes, quality of replies is measured in (You)s. How can you watch Snyder's garbage films over and over and not get an aneurysm?

>>81735612
The fact that he put a good amount of Marvel drones on eternal suicide watch is reward enough.

But hey I guess there's the next Russos masterpiece to look forward to lol

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>>81735110
Yeah, except in what way is Matt Goliath? In what way is he even the underdog to Matt? He handily kicks his ass nearly every time they cross psths.

And Karen's image more readily hints at her preoccupation with the Punisher than it does anything to do with Caravaggio's subject matter. That painting is typically associated with him translating the Vulgate Bible.

Now here's your "no apparent reason:"

MoS on through to BvS has had a recurring motifs about false gods, idols, worship, and god-making. The religious imagery(of which there are several kinds), is to cue the audience in to how people are more and more consciously coming to view Clark as a god.

It's the same thing that worried Pa Kent, the same thing that concerns Perry White: how people would react to the knowledge that a being like Clark walked among them.

>>81735575
If you need to explain a joke, it's not funny. If you need to read some diabetic neckbeard's blog to follow a story, it's probably not even worth telling.
What's even funnier is that everyone shat on man of steel back when it came out. You'd only see one or two idiots defending the soundtrack, if anything. This obsession with the movie started years after it came out, by some mental patient or other.
Color filters and christ symbols can't fix a broken narrative, and the same holds true for BvS.

>>81735575
Lex, Batman, Superman and Zack Snyder are retarded, prove me wrong.

>Lex tries to get Superman to kill batman, and tells him his entire plan and just HOPES that Superman doesn't tell Batman, which he doesn't because he is also an idiot.

>Superman forgets he has X-Ray vision and super hearing and goes to Batman.

>Then Superman doesn't talk about Lex Luthor's plan and actually starts fighting Batman.

>And the first thing Batman tries is to kill Superman with machine guns because he is retarded as well.He saw him go trough buildings like nothing but maybe a 50 cal can do the job

>Then they fight and Superman takes a Kriptonite Gas grenade to the face, which is fine, but then tries to actually kill Batman with a decapitating punch to the head.

>Then they fight some more, and Superman sees batman reload the grenade launcher for 10 seconds (i counted) and does nothing, i guess he forgot about his own super speed.

>Lex is an idiot for thinking that Superman would not approach Batman in a better way.
>Superman is an idiot for throwing batman multiple times instead of asking him for help.
>Batman is an idiot because he decided to use Kriptonite (which as far as he knows, is the only thing that hurts kriptonians) as 3 grenades (that dissolve into the air) and 1 spear head buried on the other side of the building.

>>81735686
>If you need to read some diabetic neckbeard's blog to follow a story,
Brainlets do. We didn't. That's why we have to explain the story to you.

>>81735642
>The fact that he put a good amount of Marvel drones on eternal suicide watch
So you don't even like his movies, you just want to see people getting angry because you were a neglected child.
That's amazing, I'm glad I can talk to people like you over here.

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It isn't MCU that needs saving

>>81732558
T. Flim Gob

>>81732652
>"anarchy is chaos"
>people wouldn't blow up criminals to save themselves
>criminals would be noble

>he thinks The Dark Knight isn't for children

>>81735712
People misunderstand BvS, not because they are dumber than what the story requires, the oposite.

The story is too dumb and folds on itself with useless subplots and contrived motivations

>>81735660
This post will get ignored by the Marvel drone army. Just watch. Or they'll reply with a retarded corporate wars-like way and then dodge.

>>81735789
But we had to literally explain the most self-explaining shit to a brainlet like you. I know being feed 15 Iron Man rehashes drastically ruins your IQ but it's really embarrassing having to explain even the most simplest things to you.

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>>81732558
>The Dark Knight and Man of Steel clash over differing philosophies about what kind of heroism is needed to protect the world
No they fucking don't, they are both unfeeling monsters who clash because the movie is called Batman versus Superman to rake in ten gorillion dollars on the title alone. Superman destroys cities for the greater good and brings destruction wherever he goes for the ultimate benefit of humanity (if Zod won the world is fucked instead of just one city). Batman brutally, relentlessly murders countless thugs and tears through public streets with no regard for civillians, fucking destroying the streets and blowing up buildings all just to stop Superman from doing his job better than he does. Keep in mind I don't care for Marvel either but at least they know they make stupid movies about guys in colorful costumes that climb walls and fly.
>uhh there's heroes
>and they fight a villain
>and there's lots of obvious hamfisted christian imagery and metaphors
>and plotholes
>and a big dumb cgi monster at the end
>and horrible character designs
>and it's always raining and run through 40 After Effects filters
>and there's quips too now
>brilliant
>

>>81735789
I'll agree on stupid subplots, the whole bruce wayne apocalypse vision thing was retarded and added nothing. Wonder woman was actually one of the better parts of the film but didn't belong at all.

The motivations were spot on but the acting was just incredibly bad. Batman is presented as kind of an insane killer vigilante and that's a cool direction to go. His motivations are obvious but they don't fit the canon and that triggers the comic nerds.

Superman was just being called out for not being the god everyone wanted him to be, thats a pretty common superman theme, he didn't have a real character arc unless you count self sacrificing.... more?

>>81735660
>Yeah, except in what way is Matt Goliath? In what way is he even the underdog to Matt? He handily kicks his ass nearly every time they cross psths.
Just like David and Goliath, really.
He doesn't have superpowers, Matt does. He bests him by shooting him in the face with a slingshot (9mm).
>And Karen's image more readily hints at her preoccupation with the Punisher than it does anything to do with Caravaggio's subject matter.
Oh you mean she's trying to bring truth (Frank being a victim) to a lost cause(he's also a mass murderer). Shit.
>MoS on through to BvS has had a recurring motifs about false gods, idols, worship, and god-making.
Not really, it has recurring jesus poses and super dick punching for hours on end. And then some easter egg somewhere because movies are videogames, and you need to use detective vision to scan the whole screen and find them.
That's how you catch the joker.
9/10, it was shit. -IGN

>>81732768
>MCU
>>dumb plot
>same aliens invade plot in Jewstic League

>>81735837
>No they fucking don't
Yes they do. Their conflict is based on Bruce's belief that pure good cannot exist and that as a rule, Superman will turn on mankind eventually. Batman is the cynicist hero, Superman the optimist hero. Batman traumatized by past experiences and thus leading him down his dark path, Superman turned into an icon after his victory over Zod and becoming a near-religious object. Their fight is the fight of cynicism against hope.

>>81735817
I am proud of you for being very very smart.

You did mental gymnastics and tried to add your own interpretation into a shit scene that didn't need to exist, while calling me a brainlet, that takes skill.

U r #1 lad

>>81735077
>tells him his entire plan
No he didn't. He lied to him and manipulated him just like everyone else he came across. Lex spends the first entire half of the movie getting people to swallow his "piss" to get what he wants. Two people didn't drink it - Finch and Superman.

>>81735895
>Not really,
Yes really. Don't ignore everything he says so you can type "no u" reply you cocksucker.

>>81733244
objectively correct post as long as Logan is counted as an x-men film.

>>81735743
>audience score
That's all that matters, anon. Reddit Tomatoes can't be trusted for anything else.

>>81735916
>You did mental gymnastics
If you think understanding a fucking superhero movie without having to ask 4chan is mental gymnastics, then I honestly do recommend you to just stick with Marvel. That's all I'll say now. I've already explained how Lex and Batman intertwine and you obviously didn't know about that despite it being very clear in the film. So just stick to Marvel. There is no way you can misunderstand quip lord fighting quip bad guy.

>>81735928
You did exactly the same shit you're whining about.

>>81732768
>DC has the most iconic heroes
since they use that TWO fucking heroes since 50 year

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What do the horses mean?

What's their significance?

There's something here but I'm not quite sure what.

>>81735970
Fight bullshit with bullshit. If you're not going to respect him with the same effort he put into his, then I will reply with the same bullshit you put into yours.

>>81735898
Superman is not the optimist hero. Just like Batman he is grim and dour the entire film and saying that Batman believes that pure good cannot exist is an asinine reason for him to immediately kill Superman without even trying to reason with him. Batman sees what could potentially be the greatest force for good the world has ever seen and instantaneously, despite being the world's greatest detective decides to murder him without any attempt at diplomacy.

>>81735973
What DC really has going for it is VILLAINS. Marvel has no villains, even their big main villains are either sympathetic or just retarded OP nonsense props. DC villains are believably evil and for good-ish reasons.

Marvel has actual character writing for their heroes though, the internal stuff is what they're better at.

>>81734244
you started it with CIA/Bane shit. now the newfags adapted it to BvS&co

>>81736026
Too bad the DCEU uses none of these good villains.
>RAAARGH I AM EVIL SUPERMAN
>RAAAARGH I AM BIG CGI ROCK MONSTER

>>81736022
Batman is the real villain for the first half of the film though, that's intentional. He deliberately kills badguys. He's not a pacifist good guy in BvS. Him trying to kill Superman is .. justifiable? to his stuff. Superman makes it clear he WILL stop Batman and so he has to go all the way in a brutal batman fashion.

When Lex starts showing his true colors Batman sort of moves back from being a villain and by the end he's redeemed.

>>81735927
>No he didn't
He tells Superman what he needs to know.

He knows Luthor has Martha, and that he has to kill Batman to get her back.

He could look for her fimself because he has X-Ray vision, super speed, can fly, is bullet proof and has super hearing

Or he could try to ask Batman for help, instead of doing what Lex wants him to do, Supes could say:

"Batman, Lex Luthor has my mother and he wants me to kill you, help me take him down"

It took me 7 seconds to type that.

If Superman had done that he could have save his mom 4 minutes after Luthor leaves in the helicopter

>>81735965
There's a difference between understanding and making shit up, I think that was his point.

>>81733196
When will this meme end

>>81732558
1. Iron Man (Favreau, 2008)
2. The Avengers (Whedon, 2012)
3. Guardians of the Galaxy (Gunn, 2014)
4. Captain America: The Winter Soldier (Russo & Russo, 2014)
5. Doctor Strange (Derrickson, 2016)
6. Thor (Branagh, 2011)
7. The Incredible Hulk (Leterrier, 2008)
8. Avengers: Age of Ultron (Whedon, 2015)
9. Captain America: Civil War (Russo & Russo, 2016)
10. Ant-Man (Reed, 2015)
11. Iron Man 3 (Black, 2013)
12. Captain America: The First Avenger (Johnston, 2011)
13. Suicide Squad (Ayer, 2016)
14. Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (Snyder, 2016)
15. Iron Man 2 (Favreau, 2010)
16. Thor: The Dark World (Taylor, 2013)
17. Man of Steel (Snyder, 2013)

>>81733030
These Dcucks need a good movie, they are becoming mads

>>81735895
>He bests him by shooting him in the face with a slingshot (9mm).

That only really works if you buy the vigilante who kills as the righteous one. Sympathetic? Absolutely. Badass? Without question. But righteous? Of the two of them, Matt's the "saintly" one.

Don't misunderstand me - I like this show quite a bit, but trying to tie the promo imagery to the themes of season two in a meaningful way is a bit of a stretch. At best, you can say that the imagery conveys how they think of themselves, not what we're to think of them, and certainly not what the people of their world think of them.

>>81732768
>DC has the most iconic heroes
Nah, bar Batman and Superman they don't have shit but superman recolors. In terms of villains, I think Batman and Spider-Man are evenly matched. Superman only has a good one, and everything else is pretty shitty on both sides.

>>81736123
Precisely.

I know that Lex is supposed to be unhinged in this universe.
But the way that they portray him, it just doesn't make sense, for a "realistic" superhero movie, i have a hard time believing any of them are real people

>>81736087
Lex is a pretty good villain, even in BvS. He taunts superman to his face and tells him there's NOTHING he can do to stop him. After pushing Lois off a building just to get his attention.

That is so fucking Lex.

>>81736088
I understand the point but it is not well executed at all. Throughout the entire first half Batman views superman as an evil, inhuman thing and he wants nothing more than to kill him (again for no real reason) and when he literally has a blade against his neck he stops because Superman reveals that, shockingly he has a mother. Lex Luthor is probably the worst, most poorly integrated character in the entire film as he serves no purpose but to spout rhetoric and pretentious metaphors and then birth a giant retarded monster to make Batman and Superman team up.

>>81735978
Sarah Jessica Parker was going to play that role originally but she went on to greener pastures.

>>81736202
>Pretty good villain
No he is not

>>81736203
It wasn't that he HAS a mother, Batman was fucking hallucinating and shit non stop. The fact that their moms are both named Martha is what saved his ass. Triggering the Batman by telling him he's repeating his past failures. Batman wouldn't care if Superman lived or died but he would do ANYTHING to undo another crime alley deal. That's core batman in any interpretation and it's literally the only "good" batman has left at that point.

>>81735996
>If you're not going to respect him with the same effort he put into his
First, stop pretending to be two different people. It's embarrassing to watch. Second, if you want respect, you're posting on the wrong site, you retarded gimp. I did address his key points in that post, you just didn't like the answer.

>>81736242
He was an amazing villain in BvS, he was just a poor character played by a mediocre actor in a not very good role for him.

>>81736026
>Marvel has no villains
Well, the Avengers have no villains. Spider-Man has a rogues gallery on par with Batman's, and the X-men and the Fantastic 4 have some pretty good enemies as well.

>>81736326
Well all of the Marvel villains are either incredibly sympathetic occasional anti-villains OR 2d nothings.

>>81736120
Except he opens up by revealing he knows who Clark is, then tells him if he flies away or goes anywhere other than where he's supposed to go, they kill her. He correctly banked on Clark not gambling on his mother's life.

You are correct about his interactions with Bruce, but he was trying to cow a man that you can't intimidate.

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>>81736202
Stop him from what? Lex has no genuine motivation whatsoever other than fucking with Superman.
>>81736248
I'm aware of what the Martha thing means but I didn't mention it because it is so fucking stupid. The fact that Batman, about to murder the most powerful person on Earth who he wants dead more than anything and believes is fundamentally evil is stopped because their mothers turn out to have the same name is the most comically ridiculous thing ever, and then they immediately become good friends. It then transitions from this grim fight to the death to a scene of batman helping superman save his mommy and then slinging a Marvel quip.

Snyder defenders have lost the ability to criticize a film for "quips" because in a desperate attempt to ride the back of Marvel BvS introduced quips and Justice League is going all in with them.

>>81736150
I'm saying that even without a direct connection, religious imagery is more relevant to Matt's character than it is to Clark's in Snyder's movie. Especially considering how he acts, how he deals with problems presented to him and the message he delivers.

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>>81736376
>Lex has no genuine motivation whatsoever
That's because you are a brainlet.

>>81736355
There are plenty of Marvel villains that could be great in films but they never include them properly. Right now I would say that both Marvel and DC are doing awfully in the villain department, neither cinematic universes have produced a single memorable villain.

>>81736376
>Lex has no genuine motivation
Sure he does. He wants to turn Superman into an "alien threat." It's a win/win, really, as long as you take Clark and Bruce's death match as the zero sum game Lex hoped for.

>>81736355
Same with Batman's, really. Every single one of his enemies, bar the joker, has some tragic background or valid motivation behind them. Even the joker if you take The Killing Joke's origin as canon.

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>watching capeshit still
Wow I knew this board was entry level on entry level trash but this is just embarrassing

>>81736442
>There are plenty of Marvel villains that could be great in films but they never include them properly.
That's because Fox and Sony own all of them. And they keep fucking them up.
What they've done to DOOM should be punishable by death.

>>81732614
>comics are for little children
Hi Doctor Wertham!

>>81736120
>>81736365
Superman at that point believes Batman IS a villain. He knows he has to ask help but he's still trying to be pure good and never compromise (and failing). It makes some sense, but not the optimal choice I think for the movie.

>>81736376
Lex is set up really well actually. It's really hamfisted with his hatred of authority figures just blatantly laid out with his dad stuff and the interactions with the senator. He hates authority and he hates God for not being perfect AND he hates that Superman is perceived AS a God. The thing he wants to kill first and foremost is Superman's IMAGE.

>>81736442
It's just so fucking.... gapped. You have like the really good villains in Marvel like Magneto with deep tragic backstories and shit that work well for character driven stories that Marvel excels at but then you immediately jump way way way out to Thanatos and that nonsense over 9000 2D cartoon villains.

>>81736459
The difference is that Batman's villains are like... irredeemable at their core. Marvel doesn't have anything like that except charicatures of villains.

>>81736355
There is nothing wrong with a sympathetic villain. Any villain that has a decent motivation is somewhat sympathetic automatically (Dr. Doom, Hitler), and a villain without a a decent motivation is automatically a 2D nothing (The Joker). People ONLY like the Joker because he is so over the top and crazy that it's enjoyable, he's as 2D as it gets.

>>81736495
Thanos*

>>81736365
The scenario in which the fight is so dumb my head hurts, the screenwriters and the director have to make sure that they don't talk to each other or try to explain anything because if they did they wouldn't need to fight.

>>81736426
I'm guessing that you called him brainlet because you think that you are arguing with me... no.

Also, stop calling everyone brainlet, everyone here knows you are dumb as a rat, the difference is that you think you are smart

>>81736545
There is absolutely nothing wrong with one-note villains if executed well like the Joker. Problem with Marvel villains is that they're family friendly garbage.

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>>81736479
>What they've done to DOOM should be punishable by death.
Yes, in fact I meant to attach an image of Doom to my post. I don't know why it didn't work.

>>81736556
How many times have we explained Lex's motivation to you by now? And the day after you still have amnesia and pretend it didn't happen. Brainlet or intentionally acting retarded.

>>81736545
>>81736569
Joker isn't just a one-note villain in CONTEXT, he's so fucking 2D and evil that Batman NOT killing him becomes a moral conflict. That's why Joker is a good villain. This BvS Batman does not have a Joker problem.

>>81736569
I agree completely but neither Marvel nor DC are doing either villain type well.

>>81736271
It's two different people, you schmuck. I know because I'm the other one.

>>81736495
>The difference is that Batman's villains are like... irredeemable at their core. Marvel doesn't have anything like that except charicatures of villains.
That's just fanboy nonsense, just because marvel's villains seem relateable, it doesn't mean they don't murder and steal and rape like any good ole fashioned criminal. Magneto has good points, but he's also into genocide and murder. Galactus is just hungry and trying to feed himself. Dr. Doom honestly believes, in his head, that the only way the world can be a better place is under his rule. It goes on like that. They're semi-complex characters who had a bad day, just like batman's villains.

>>81736667
Doom is 100% correct too.

>>81736551
Yeah, Thanos is just an edgelord bent on universal conquest, but they pretty much lifted him from Darkseid wholesale.

>>81736593
No one is talking about Lex anymore.

The main theme here is, ¿Why do you think YOU are smart?
Are you masturbating to your selfies?
How come you can't make one reply without having to assert your superiority?
Who hurt you?


I feel like you ARE Lex Luthor.

>>81736604
The other guy here. We are, in all actuality, just the same person. Don't listen to his lies.

>>81736667
Well Galactus is one of those 2D shits nobody cares about but stuff like Dr. Doom and Magneto BELIEVE they're correct and usually they cause doubts in the heroes too. That's their strength is their sympathy. Nobody has sympathy for... scarecrow or fucking zsasz holy shit you want 2D that's your man. But he's still an effective villain because he's NOT super powered and still terrifying. Heroes have to actually go out of their way to stop people from dying. They're not worrying about saving the planet/universe/comic sales.

>>81736382
>religious imagery is more relevant to Matt's character than it is to Clark's in Snyder's movie.

Yeah, just go on and ignore the parts about worship and god-making, even though that even carries over into the Suicide Squad, of all things. I expect no less from you at this point.

>>81736697
The fact that DC decided to go with Darkseid as their big bad of the entire EU after Marvel is already doing Thanos is the worst decision ever, even though I like Darkseid better than Thanos.

>>81736753
I liked Ironside's Darkseid in DCAU, also fucking Ed Asner Granny Goodness holy shit. Still not the best of DC or Marvel when they're trying to save the universe.

>>81736749
I think that anon said it because Matt is a devout catholic

>>81736667
>the world can be a better place is under his rule

My favorite depictions of Doom always have hints that he might be right, and Latveria is a bucolic little paradise.

>>81736738
>Well Galactus is one of those 2D shits nobody cares about
i find him just as compelling as any of the others you mentioned. On one hand, you can't fault him for trying to survive by doing what's natural. On the other, you are his food and you need to defend yourself.
Also for every Mr. Zsasz and Scarecrow, you have a Mr. Freeze, Man-bat or Poison Ivy.

>>81734416
Daredevil is based and above all the MCU movies actually

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>>81736667
>Magneto has good points, but he's also a jew

>>81734244
At the very least DCshilling is still shitposting. Marvelshilling is genuine autism

>>81736796
Oh, totally. But that sort of misses the point of applying religious imagery o a character that *is* devoutly religious st his core. He's comparing apples to oranges and saying that the more obvious use is superior simply because it's more applicable, all while disregarding that the religious imagery in MoS and BvS is there conveying something else entirely.

>>81736796
Not only that, but his decision not to kill, his constant struggle to do the right thing, his defending people for pennies and so on, all stem from his self-sacrificial catholic morality. Matt a good catholic boy full of them guiltz.

>>81736821
He's so far beyond fault or anything. He's more force of nature than character. And yeah, I wasn't saying that DC had no sympathetic anti-villain types either. It's got a lot but that type of villain doesn't really do justice as the primary antagonist UNLESS you have an equally sympathetic villain and all that.

DC heroes tend to be a little too wooden to handle that kind of character story full time. Marvel heroes do a lot better and yet aren't being used in that context cause the big team movies are in. Sympathetic villains won't work for that kind of set up I don't think.

Even the high-power justice league baddies tend to be less 2D though, plus they have other teams/events that they have to deal with that are... 2D but compelling. Not like Galactus.

>>81736915
>my autism is less autistic than your autism

>>81736911
Wasn't he a gypsy? Or maybe Pietro and Wanda were.

>>81736936
>the religious imagery in MoS and BvS is there conveying something else entirely.
Are they conveying a false equivalence? Because Clark sure as fuck doesn't behave like a Jesus figure in those movies.

DCEU - 1 Oscar

MCU - 0 Oscars

MCU fags BTFO

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>>81736973
>Magneto was born Max Eisenhardt sometime in the late 1920s to a middle-class German-Jewish family.

>>81733244
I can agree here

>>81737011
>for makeup

>>81736947
>It's got a lot but that type of villain doesn't really do justice as the primary antagonist

Zod was that type of villain. He's a bit tragic, really.

>>81737055
Zod has been portrayed that way sometimes, yeah. Really depends on the telling though.

>>81736999
I'd reiterate, but you'll just ignore it again.

>>81737042
MCU still doesn't have one

>>81732558
yes it's marvel that needs saving with it's massive opening weekends and billion dollar movies loved by everyone and not DC which never has, never had, and never will have any of those

DC fans are so insecure about the reviews it's hilarious.

>>81737130
>dat evasion

How boringly predictable.

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>>81737122
>for makeup

>>81737176
That's not me, but your reply was awfully convenient.

>>81737055
Zod had the potential to be a very compelling character in Man of Steel. Humans are obviously objectively inferior to Kryptonians, so Zod's argument that there is nothing wrong with wiping out mankind and claiming Earth to bring back Krypton is an interesting one. Too bad he was portrayed as a roaring lunatic monster alien.

>>81737217
You show me the part that says specifically Jesus wasn't an alien sent to earth.

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>>81737267
again, you're deflecting without answering.

the burden of truth is on your shoulders.

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>>81737310
You're not only a chickenshit, you're not even particularly all that bright or creative a one.

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>>81737373
>still incapable of answering

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>>81732981
wow, kino

>>81734926
Magnificent.
I am hearing the glorious song made by Zimmer.

>>81737437
>>81735660

Now if you've got the reading comprehension to follow that, get back to us. Otherwise, feel free to admit you're just ducking the issue because it's easier to massage your ego than it is to actually engage in a discussion.

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>>81737738
>still can't answer the simple question.

so this is the power of DCpajeets

>>81737665
Shame it was a pointless filler scene which ambiguously makes him look kind of not-good considering the boat's tipped over and probly empty. I mean why is that even in the movie?

>>81737812
There are people in the boat if I remember well.

>>81738049
Yeah, the crew's riding on the side of the cabin.

>>81737806
We all really hope you're only pretending to be this retarded, but secretly suspect that you are.

In case you really are. We're not the one saying he's like Jesus. You're either trying to setting up a strawman or doing so by virtue of serendipitous retardation.

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>>81732558
>mfw I honestly thought Dr. Strange was pretty great and Thor somehow looks good too
le falseflag shit really needs to stop. Its ruined this board.

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>>81732927
>>81733030
I am so sick of seeing these two frames.

Why doesn't /tv/ have ACTUAL criticism about Civil War? Is it because real effort into shitposting is too hard?