Why are they so mean to Rambo at the start of the film?

>>81722325
hes a wog

He's a dirty vagrant bum

first blood is based as fuck

How the fuck did this turn into an action franchise

>>81722451
>>81722488
I watched this and rocky for the first time last year. God damn how sequels shit on these movies.

>>81723785
agreed, the original first blood and rocky movies are the only good movies sly ever made.

>>81724000
To be fair rocky 2 isn't terrible
Decent sequel
But yes the originals of both are classic and based af

>>81723785

I purposely never watched the sequels to First Blood cause I can tell they're the exact opposite of what First Blood is meant to be about.

First Blood is some good shit and so is Rocky.

This is currently the best thread on /tv/.

>>81722337
/thread

Basically because he had shaggy hair.

Back in the day the culture wars were going on in the US even then, but in more of a squares/rednecks vs hippies/leftists kind of way. Hippies weren't anything like todays SJWs though.

But anyways there was some real hostility towards longhairs in the 60s if you went to the wrong place out in the country or in the South. That's why rednecks ended up killing the main characters at the end of Easy Rider. My dad, who was a hippie hitchhiker for a while, said he and traveling friends were wary to go through the South.

Anyways, there was still a lot of residual resentment and anger ever since then. The Reagan years were in part an expression of the backlash of the 'Silent Majority' against permissive 60s culture and "dopers".

And what you basically see in this movie is a guy who looked like one of those dazed, possibly drugged up, hitchhiking ex-hippie to the local small town law enforcement. I think in part the movie was kind of commenting how badly Vietnam veterans had been neglected and how fucked up things were for many of them now.

>>81722325
>bigots
ignorants they didnt go to vietnam

>>81722325

Because the Sheriff was a Korean War vet and the Korean War is mostly forgotten.

He was pissed at Rambo because the soldiers coming home from Vietnam were getting lots of attention. The younger officers just went along with what Art told them to do "shave him dry "The man said clean him up did'nt he?"

Art and will both had there own agenda's. Teasal was more controlled while art was off the rails and would have killed him over nothing.

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>>81722325
Vietnam vets weren't respected. You were viewed as making the world a worse place, unlike WW2 vets who were regarded as making it better.

Vets back then could cause trouble just by making an appearance somewhere in uniform. The cops were completely in the wrong of course and it was awesome how he slaps their shit, but the cops trying to move him across town without anyone seeing him was a reflection of the 60s.

Rambo: First Blood is a really interesting film. Kind of serious and a bit of a downer.

And then Rambo II is like one of the most over-the-top, roided up, cartoonish, archetypal 80s action movies.

Interesting / fun for different reasons.

>>81724118
rambo 2 is that though, it just shows his resolve is still there while highlighting the fact in the end with

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhCq1DFqD08

>>81724509
People treating Vietnam vets badly was such a shitty thing. It's not like so many of them even WANTED to go, and it fucked them up.

There were so many crazy dudes wandering around in the 1980s who had been driven insane by that war.

NIMBYism

>>81724118
I'm realizing that Stallone has actually been in a lot of really good shit, and that he's actually quite likable and I think I kind of respect him.

>>81724430
>I think in part the movie was kind of commenting how badly Vietnam veterans had been neglected and how fucked up things were for many of them now.


shit nothing get past tv

>>81724584
Also, Stallone supposedly has an IQ of 160. Go figure.

>>81724584
He's about the same age as Arnie, so he's also a really good way to show people the difference between long term effects of steroid use. In his early movies is obvious that he isn't juicing, he's ripped but his body doesn't look like a roadmap balloon like Arnie's did. And now in their old age is pretty obvious who could win in a fight due to Stallone not taking any shortcuts.

>>81724584

Nighthawks is another goat Stallon film. Just a shame the studio and egos got in the way and recut the film before it was released.

>>81724654
>o show people the difference between long term effects of steroid use.

by showing them 1 anecdotal example? your statistics game is strong broh

>>81724779
Shit arnie is one of the lucky ones, he still has most of his hair and his dick still works.

People who juice do not age well, and I know you can't prove it wrong.

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>>81724000
*blocks your path*

nice trips

First Blood Rambo is a realistic Rambo
Part 2 Rambo is a superhero
Part 3 Rambo is like a god that can take out whole army including tanks 'n shit.
Part 4 is a mixxed bag of all the stuff before.
My 12 year old self still likes part 2 tho. Jungle warfare is the best cinematically imho

Rocky movies
First Blood
Nighthawks
Cobra
Death Race 2000
Judge Dredd
Demolition Man
Rambo II for absurdity appeal

>>81724850
I once read a fanfic that spliced predator and rambo together.

really surprised it never happened.

>>81724821
That movie is so 80's that it makes my dick hard

>>81724890

Cliffhanger was better than Judge Dredd.

how did we go from 1 accidental death in the first movie to Rambo murdering a battalion in every movie after that?

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>>81724806
This man is 83 years old senpai

>>81724584
watch Cop Land too.

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>>81724987
amenikr

>>81724902
plz link

>>81724584

watch tango and cash. they do a fun twist on the buddy cop thing with sly being the glasses wearing desk nerd and kurt being the crazy bad seed.

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>>81724000
Ahem

>>81724430

Are you a film man yourself? I never got ANY of this, and I'm a bit of a buff myself!

>>81724430
>I think in part the movie was kind of commenting how badly Vietnam veterans had been neglected and how fucked up things were for many of them now.

This is all it was ffs.

>>81724654
Stallone abuses hgh tho. It gave him sausage fingers and makes him look a bit like a potato now.

>>81725362
Is that a man or a woman?

>>81724890
Judge Dredd is so utterly cheesy. 2012's Dredd shat on it so hard it went to another dimension.

because he is a greasy wop

>>81724000
>He hasn't seen Oscar
>Or copland

>>81727474
I loved this movie

Sandra Bullock is so fucking hot in this

>>81727910
Who the fuck are you to judge

>>81724584
>>>/reddit/

>>81724821
>Cobra
>good

It's so bad it's not even enjoyably bad.

I feel like the 80s really went to Stallones head.
He could do no wrong and was surrounded by syophants. It took a couple of stinkers like Stop or my Mom will shoot to make him somewhat humble again.

> dat interview where he states he did Stop or my Mom will shoot because they told him Arnie'd do it if he declines

>>81724084
absolutely this.

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>>81724654
yet it's stallone who takes steroids these days to keep looking ripped.
arnie because of his heart surgery can't take steroids anymore

>>81729733
no it was more that arnold tricked him into doing that movie.
they had a 'friendly' rivalry back then.
arnie after the success of twins made it apear he was interested in staring in Stop or my mom will shoot
sly after hearing this, whent out of his way to get the part.
the movie bombed hard, and arnie had a good laugh

>>81724084
rocky 1 and 2 are both great
rocky 3 is just fun, but not that great
rocky 4 is average
rocky 5 is terrible
rocky balboa is average

>>81730057
What are some more friendly rivalries in Hollywood?

I know of van Damme / Seagal and Dick / Lovitz.

>>81724430
WOW this analysis is unreal. Deep shit!

>>81730843
> friendly rivalries
>Dick / Lovitz

I smash me m8s heads into bars all the time too

>>81724806
>People who juice do not age well, and I know you can't prove it wrong.

Steroids have come a long way since the arnie days tho

>>81724988

Damn Omar Sharif looks like that?

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>>81724430
>>81724481
In the book Rambo is not a sympathetic character at all, he's a real asshole who has a massive chip on his shoulder ho ends up going full blown whacko. The sheriff is pretty decent with him, even buying him some food and putting up with him returning to the town 3 times, before Rambo flips out in the station.

>>81724565
how about you go watch accounts of what those soldiers did to the people of vietnam, dipshit, it wasn't anything high and mighty like you pretend, at the lowest levels us soldiers happily slaughtered villagers

watch Winter Soldier (1972)

>>81732059
First blood is such a cool title

The title alone sold the movie

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>lose the war
>get treated like a loser

wow what a surprise

>>81722337
Rambo would be white by American standards even then. Would easily be associated with an Italian even tho they mention him being half Nazi / half Apache.

>walking on the street peacefully
>oy m8, you're under arrest because reasons

only in america

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>>81729614

cool opinion breh

>>81729614
Clean up your act.

>>81724509
>You were viewed as making the world a worse place
>implying you weren't

>>81724000
I thought F.I.S.T was pretty good

>>81734346
Based Crocop

>>81732049
lel'd

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>>81734378
The Goat

>>81730843
not a real rivalry but arnie loved to prank people during filming of his movies

he tricked Jesse ventura during predator.
they had a bet who had the biggest biceps over an expensive bottle of champagne.
ventura was made to believe he was bigger then arnold. then when they did the actual measurements it turned out arnold was of course bigger.
ventura was pissed but still bought the champagne of course

>>81724430
>Hippies weren't anything like todays SJWs though

>romanticising the past so much that all perspective of history is absent

they were the original "SJWs" you absolute moron. And I will repeat, if you refer to the term "social justice" ironically, then you might need to check your stance as a person.

>>81724430
lol son, your post got BTFO