>it's an islamophobia episode

>>81718357
A sensible discussion then.

you mean a getting-killed-phobia?

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>>81718357
>islamophobia

>>81718357
But anon, a phobia is an irrational fear of something that won't or can't hurt you.

Islam is a religion that tells people right in their holy book that it is their sacred duty to go kill anyone who disagrees. It's not like the Bible where you have to read that shit INTO scriptures or have a bunch of secondary writings like the Catholics do just to JUSTIFY a Crusade, it's literally telling you to go on an endless Jihad and you MUST "reinterpret" and sublimate it into a symbolic inner struggle from the base literal "kill all of the heretics and purify the world" literal meaning.

If that weren't bad enough, there are three major competing factions active in the world today, to say nothing of smaller sects and cells, devoted to doing EXACTLY THAT by ANY MEANS NECESSARY, explicitly willing to pose as, use as shields, and leech off of/threaten into helping, any actual moderates in the religion. Add to that opinion polls of these moderates make them worse than most "extremists" of other religions in terms of compatibility with the rest of the world and civilization in general, not to mention in terms of how they'll justify all sorts of violence against their own families over small things. And these are the polls largely done by organizations who are hoping to find evidence to EXONERATE the religious demographic.

So what, exactly, would be in any way irrational about being fucking terrified of people who proudly proclaim they want to kill you? No kneejerk responses and propaganda, think about it before you answer.

>>81718357

Funny how Hinduaphoba, Buddhaphobia and Christianophobia are not part of the contemporary lexicon.

>>81718357
>mentioning how most terrorists are muslim
>afraid of Islam
Kill yourself

>>81719356
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>>81719550

Back to /pol/. This is a friendly blue board. No racism allowed.

>>81718357
Fuck Islam, happy to see Muslims denied access to the US and being deported. It's a shame that Germany and Sweden take a "terrorists welcome" approach. Fuck white liberals who defend this atrocious religion too.

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>>81719606
thats right, islam is the race of peace!

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>>81719606
>muslim
>race

https://twitter.com/CounterMoonbat/status/852740672243224576

Anytime anyone ever mentions moderate, peace loving Muslims, just go in knowing that lying is acceptable as long is it promotes their death cult. I have gone to college and work with Muslims. It's eye opening to know their real thoughts when they feel comfortable around you. Don't mistake friendliness with goodness.

>>81718357
ive been thinking about converting to islam recently. id rather not throw queers off rooftops but maybe its the only way to stop western degradation

Reminder that Mohammad was a LITERAL warlord and conquer, and islam can never be, and never has been a "religion of peace"

>>81719628
>>81719656
>>81719658
>>81719683

Here is your (You). Get on back in your pins.

>>81719606
Islam is not a race. Study from a Muslim for a while. Read the Quran. Hear what they have to really say about other races and non believers. It will come out after a while.

>>81719606
>this is a safe space, don't ever hurt my feelings
I don't care if it's bait I can't help myself

>>81719606
Did you just assume my board of origin?
That is SOOO incredibly problematic for just, for so many fucking reasons, first of all.
Listen, you do NOT label me and you do NOT speak for me.
I will NOT be boxed and I will not have my worldview colonized and RAPED by a Big Guy.
Like, honestly, as a Big Guy you have NO place telling anyone from any other board how they should behave and it is VERY offensive for you to mis-origin me. Like you need to stop, I am literally shaking right now. I don't need to hear any more about your fragile staturinity.
Second of all, racism is a combination of power + privilege and we are living in a Big Guy's world and that is VERY inappropriate of you, to ever call me racist, because of my demographic as a Small Guy I am inherently incapable of being racist, sweetie, so think twice before you open that big bigot's mouth of yours.

>>81719793
from the bottom of my heart, i hope you kill yourself

>>81719800
>>81719832
>>81719842
>>81719900

All these dubs and you still had to be mad.

Nobody is afraid of Islam.

If you die, you die - you dont experience anything past that so why would you give a crap about dying?

People just acknowledge that Islam presents a serious threat to everyone due to them being the majority and the law supporting their recruitment.

>>81719606
/pol/ is a board of peace

>>81719930
Not mad. Just being honest, and sharing real life experience, as opposed to memes. Live in ignorance. You'll probably be happier.

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>claim to support women's rights
>also supports muslims

>>81719535
>fear of something that won't or can't hurt you.
no it's not dipshit. it's just a fear.
FUCK
at least bother to look shit up before you type some stupid shit like this
REEEEEEEEEEE

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>>81719842
Fucking hell

>>81720146
Phobia is not just a fear, it's defined as an irrational fear.

>>81719606
When the punishment for apostasy in Islam isn't death, then I'll maybe consider it as being a """peaceful""" religion.

>>81719656
i miss drawn together that show was fucking hilarioius. can't find it anywhere

>>81720270
>it's defined as an irrational fear.
no, it's fucking not. you're on the internet, why would you be this stupid? it is extreme, but it's not necessarily irrational. Only retarded psychologists would define it that way.

>>81720270
no, it's not.

>>81719720
Yup. People who point out the peaceful Muslims don't seem to understand they're just as capable of destroying the ideas intrinsic and valuable to a liberal western democracy as the violent ones are, especially since those on the left seem to think all it takes for those peaceful Muslims to become violent is harsh language and insensitive cartoons.

Why do people always talk about the Quran endorsing war and conquest but not the Old Testament?

>>81721685
Because the actions of the adherents. Jews don't go bang if you draw doodles of Moses.

>>81721685
Last time I checked, there weren't mass quantities of Christians and Jews ramming airplanes into towers or blowing themselves up along with hundreds of innocents

>>81722026
Bombing the middle east has killed hundreds of thousands of civilians.

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>>81720430
Intredesting

>>81719535
Fuck you're autistic.

>>81718357
INSHALLAH BROTHER

>>81719535
>but anon, a phobia is an irrational fear of something that won't or can't hurt you.

Yeah I'm sure that's why there's a phobia for spiders, snakes, Sharks...

>>81722330
Islamophobia most usually refers to the hatred towards people who dress and speak differently from you while adhering to the religion of Islam.
Most people would be okay with Cat Stevens being in the room for example, even though he's converted to Islam. But if you suddenly dress up Cat Stevens in Afghani Clothes and have him speak Arabic, then those same people suddenly soil their little pants.

>>81722330
>extreme OR irrational

I know english isn't your first language Achmed but come on.

>>81721685
Because they are pushing an agenda. That agenda is pro-christianity.

>>81722519
Yeah, because those cultural trappings are giant indicators of a burgeoning parallel society that has no respect for your own and religiously believes it not only has the right, but the duty to resist any attempts otherwise.

And no, I have a problem with Cat Stevens because he's a Muslim. There isn't a single person I know who is Muslim who wouldn't immediately be a much better person if they randomly decided to vacate that mental sanitarium of shitty ideas.

>>81720278
It's hilarious how Islam haters happen to be expert scholars on Islam.

>>81722594
And this is why you have no friends. I pity you.

>>81722591
No actually. I don't like christfags either, but aside from abortion issues they're not taken seriously by anyone who even pretends to care about secularism.

I like secular society, which is why I have absolutely no sympathy for anything to do with Islam. It is everything bad about Christianity magnified by ten.

>>81722614
If people reject Islam through shallow stereotypes that's as much Islam's fault. You don't get to have the world's shittiest PR and then whine about people slamming the door in your face when you try to talk to them.

>>81722641
No argument, just a personal attack. Fantastic, I didn't expect any different. Islamic apologists get more and more pathetic every day. The religion is little more than a more violent version of Scientology. If I'm allowed to have no respect for anyone who's a member of that nonsense, why does a similar disdain for Islam suddenly mean "I pity you Mr. Foreveralone!"

>>81722499
If you can't even enter a room with a spider in it, yeah that's irrational

>>81722575
>Phobia is described as an irrational fear
>Not it's not
>Here's some proof
>Hehe but it could mean this a-achmed
It's okay to just admit you were wrong

>>81722767
See that's not the part of your definition of phobia that I'm claiming is incorrect, it's the "that can do no harm"

Good. Muslims belong in the zoo. Based Joe will have to go where nu-male """atheists""" won't.

>>81722892
Take it up with the dictionary people or doctors who make these definitions then

>>81722933
or just stop using it wrong? you're like the autistic kid in class that runs around saying he's gay just so he can quip that gay means happy.

>>81722866
>Here's some proof
It's proof you're wrong though. do you not know what or means?

>>81722976
*using it incorrectly

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>>81723027
You're just embarrassing yourself at this point.

>>81723267
You didn't even read that, did you

>>81723302
>mening incorrectly, badly, or mistakenly
>the adverbial wrong is not just widely accepted but common
did you?

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>>81723095
Ayoooooo hold up
Back then average person use to live up to his 40's maybe 50's if hes lucky, so the age of consent should have been smaller as well right ? When you think about it then good was in his 50's almost at deaths door, he aint gonna try his luck at waiting till the girl is 18 to pound her

>>81723334
>he still doesn't get it
I can only show you the door, not push you through it

>retarded autists arguing over the exact definition of a phobia instead of acknowledging a fear of Islam is reasonable regardless

This is why the West is falling to be honest.

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Freedom of Religion was a mistake

>>81723432
> being afraid of something thats not real and just a belief
lol

>>81723365
>Back then average person use to live up to his 40's maybe 50's if hes lucky
no, they didn't. Plato lived longer than you will. It is only because infant mortality was so bad that life expectancy numbers have changed. Average age, excluding child deaths, has been almost constant for a millennia.

>Jamie, pull up the clip of that gorilla on DMT fighting a hunter gatherer

>>81723365
9 is literally prepubescent.

>>81723385
I can only imagine that you're clinging on to the fact that it says some consider it incorrect and to play it safe in formal occasions? are you really grasping this hard? Grammarfags are always the biggest idiots.

>>81723453
That's why it's scary. It doesn't exist, it isn't rational, and it can't be logically argued against because it's built entirely on make believe and faith. If the crazy person next door threatens to stab you for denying the existence of their imaginary friend you'd grow to hate and fear that fucker and his invisible wife too.

>>81723551
>quod erat demonstrandum

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It would be nice if the U.S and euro countries would stop directly funding terrorists as well

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>>81723504
Yeah man you are right, its not like modern medicine and penicillin increased the life expectancy and over all well being of everyone, shits the same as it was in middle ages

>>81723504
lmao nigger you are so stupid

I'm always curious what even compels faggots like you to join a discussion and say shit that's just so blatantly wrong and retarded.

>>81723576
>post says it is not only widely accepted but common
>but maybe watch it in formal situations
>therefore it's always wrong
Again, it's just embarrassing at this point.

>>81723607
>>81723660
i'm always curious what compels people to reply without even checking that they might be wrong
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2625386/
http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-evolution-human-origins/life-expectancy-myth-and-why-many-ancient-humans-lived-long-077889
http://www.livescience.com/10569-human-lifespans-constant-2-000-years.html

>>81723747
>Modern medicine hasn't increased the average life expectancy.

Lifespan isn't the same as life expectancy you absolute mongoloid. Just the notion that increased ease of access to food, safety, and modern medicine hasn't improved it is flat-earth tier retarded.

>>81722718
>You don't get to have the world's shittiest PR
Hmm, really funny. Didn't realize that Muslims control the media narrative about them. And fyi, there are christian terrorists, too, and the chance that you get killed by a terrorist is lower than the chance you may get killed by a cop

>>81723803
from the post I responded to
>Back then average person use to live up to his 40's maybe 50's if hes lucky, so the age of consent should have been smaller as well right
It is clear what definition is being used here, and it's wrong. People where in no way developing faster nor were their bodies wearing out quicker. If you made it past 5, you could expect to live into your 70's. Speaking of penicillin, you're going to need it after all the shit you just ate.

>>81723868
Increasingly in leftwing circles in the west they do actually. Not that it's doing them any good given their religion can't keep its adherents from acting the way it always does whenever it encounters contrary opinions.

And you know what? No, go fuck yourself with that Christian whataboutism. That's all you apologists ever fucking have as an argument and it's an equine necromancer at this point. Muslims don't have to be terrorists to destroy secular western democracies in the first place.

>>81724109
>Increasingly in leftwing circles in the west
Not the media, and certainly not the majority of people. Try harder retard.
I bring up Christians because it tends to be the largest religion within western countries and in the end all religious nuts tend to act the same. You just treat all religious nuts the same way, and you treat the moderate reasonable people the same way. No need to differentiate into which brand of religion they follow, it pretty much operates the same way, with minor cosmetic differences

>>81722614
yeah I know right.
And like, people who hate pedophiles seem to know so much about psychology and sexuality and stuff but unless you're actually a pedophile you really shouldn't be talking about it.

>>81719628
you mean all religions.

>>81724580
I'm sorry, did you actually just suggest the media doesn't do that? When the HuffPo is publishing articles talking about how "feminist," Mohammed was or when media all over tries blowing the same smoke Sarsour peddles up everyone's skirt? When various European media outlets refuse to release details of crimes for fearing a backlash?

You're showing a major disconnect from reality if you think leftwing media in western countries isn't trying its hardest to soften Islamic fundamentalism. The fact it isn't working isn't due to lack of trying, it's because Islam is just so bad it isn't working.

>>81724686
No. Fuck Islam. If you can have a religion that doesn't turn into a monster like Islam from the beginning or Christianity used to be there's no reason to get rid of it. Especially since doing so makes human beings pour that credulous spiritual need into more dangerous outlets, like politics.

>>81724580
Also, no, this false equivalence is terrible. Moderate Christians in Europe/NA are nowhere close to moderate Muslims even in Europe. I don't like organized religion either, but stop playing this game, it only makes it harder to combat Islam when its needed.

>>81723445
no it wasn't.
religion is just ideas that people agree on for spiritual reasons.
It's organized philosophy mixed in with some cultural practices.
If you have freedom of speech and freedom of thought then freedom of religion has to be permitted by extension.

But freedom to believe what you want should not override other people's rights either, you can think whatever but you can't do whatever.
So no, Jews should not be able to suck on baby dicks just because it's their religion.
Muslim children should not be forced to wear hijabs in summer heat just because it's their religion.
You should not have to submit to any person just to fulfill their religion.

Religion is your own responsibility, not anyone else s.
You carry it out within the confines of the law, no special treatment.

>>81724752
>like Islam from the beginning or Christianity used to be there's no reason to get rid of it
You're just an ignorant mong. All major religions have had their time when they looked relatively benign, even Islam. They were definitely the more compassionate ones in the crusades and they are definitely the worst now. But all major religions have had their turn at bat, even Buddhism for fucks sake. There's nothing good about patching bad human instincts with illogical beliefs.

>>81724883
Not him but you're right, even Buddhism has been used to justify abuse and human rights violations.
But using this truth as a hopping stone over to equivalence is dumb.
What are we supposed to do, let muslims break the law however they want until they burn out and become peaceful like the rest of us?
The crusades were over 700 years ago, do we have to wait that long for muslims to fix themselves?
Every other culture has managed to quickly address their problems and make themselves compatible with international human rights, why should muslims be allowed to wallow in the mud and still reap the benefits of modern western civilization?

>>81724970
>The crusades were over 700 years ago, do we have to wait that long for muslims to fix themselves?
no. I wasn't saying "we've all been bad, therefore let them be bad too". I was countering his statement that there's no reason to get rid of religions that he thinks are not dangerous because people at times ignore the worst parts and at others bring them to the forefront.

>>81719208
*braps anciently*

>>81724883
>They were definitely the more compassionate ones in the crusades and they are definitely the worst now


AHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!

>>81725109
>>81724883
I'm aware every religion has had ups and downs, but I'm not convinced scrapping all of them will fix the problems they create.

We're already seeing people pour that devotional drive for the spiritual into other facets of life in the wake of receding religiosity. Some of it good, some of it potentially even worse. Cults of personality or blind devotion to political ideologies are what result more often than not. A neutered and secularized Christianity is better than the prospect of either of those.

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Islam is cancer to every society

If you don't know that you've never had full experience of muslims and.l islam.

The moderate muslim is Westboro Baptist tier radical. They jusy aren't vocal about it.

They are by far the shittiest people I've ever met. I would never hire a muslim. I would never befriend another muslim. Your anecdotes about that "one good arab kid" are worthless.

>>81725205
>pour that devotional drive for the spiritual into other facets of life in the wake of receding religiosity
I think you're projecting here. There's no reason to think that people NEED to be fanatically devoted to something and there's also no reason to think a religion that's benign right now won't experience another down. Again, to me it just feels like a bandaid rather than a true fix.

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>>81718357
>it's a Joe throws the religion is believing in fairy tales shtick at every religious guest except the religious university professors episode

>>81725628
>except the religious university professors
like who? peterson? He was just leaving his light work for harris.

>>81724970
>let muslims break the law
No. Treat them like any other criminal, instead of making their whole religion into a special case. If they don't break the law, then there should be no issue, then. Its not hard at all.

>>81725462
It is a bandaid and the true fix would be modifying with human nature. Until we can do that a pacified religion is the best outlet. It's not projection. Look at the history of forced atheistic conventions, the result is always a populace either grows increasingly nihilistic or puts that fervor into something else, like politics. Look at Stalinist Russia or North Korea for instance. The human need of spiritual drive manifests in many ways and the blind devotion to singular men or political systems is as bad if not worse than a neutered religion.

Hell, that's part of the reason Islam is so bad. It's a religion and a political ideology at the same time.

>>81725843
Good, so stop calling it Islamophobia when we try to treat them like everybody else.

>>81725843
And what happens when they form a large enough group to change the laws so behavior that would have been against the law is now legal? You realize Muslim moderates are beyond all but the most extreme Christians in western society right?

>>81724883
Except everything bad that happened under Christianity happened because of politics of the era, not the religion itself. While Islam does have some good tenants on it's own (it's my personal favorite of the Abrahamic religions because the Five Pillars is mainly about individual improvement through pious actions), Islam as a whole was built up and is intertwined with Bedouin culture, which is barbaric and is completely incompatible with modern civilization.

I really hope you don't consider Christianity to be anti-science or anti-intellectual, especially since you called that other guy ignorant. Protestant Reformation was the first time human civilization had a culture in which literacy was paramount. Writing, education, and organization all existed beforehand, but no culture until the Christian Protestant Reformation ever required such widespread literacy. Every shit-shoveling serf, even children of shit-shoveling serfs, needed to be literate to "read the word of God." The framework of modern civilization, which is classical liberalism, was built from this christian-based culture of literacy. Sure humanity would've industrialized at some point anyway, and through industrialization some cultural impetus for literacy would've developed, but it wouldn't have been so fast or so universal as it was with the Christian Reformation.

Islam has never had such a cultural or social reformation; the big Shia/Sunni schism is at best a Catholic/Orthadox political split. If Islam as a whole does not undergo some social or cultural change, it will never be compatible with modern civilization, because so much of the old Bedouin tribal influence (and barbarism) defines and influences the religion. It's just too culturally intertwined with it's own toxicity.

>>81719208
>even the neckbeards of the past were fat

high fructose corn syrup was a mistake

>>81726011
I don't. It's only Islamophobia when people overreact and start blaming the whole thing on Muslims as an entire group and start treating law-abiding Muslims differently, when, like most criminals, its only a small percentage of their overall population responsible for such crimes

>>81726026
Not seeing any evidence of any of those claims, so its just conjecture. In any case, Muslims are a minority in most Western countries. They'd never be able to through such a reform program with such a population relative to the non-Muslim one.

>>81726147
>Protestant Reformation was the first time human civilization had a culture in which literacy was paramount
Anon, pls.

>>81719656
Lost it

>>81719842
Lost it again

I love you /tv/

>>81721685
Because the Old Testament is largely irrelevant these days. If the muslims would devise a Quaran pt. II about kittens and butterflies, and never harming a soul in your life, the old book would have been irrelevant and a lot of violence would have been stopped.

>>81719535
Solid post

>>81726688
Please let me know any other time in known human history that is otherwise? Confucian China had the tech, respect of education and sophisticated population, but culturally didn't need widespread literacy because the scholar and bureaucratic classes and the aristocracy were the only ones that needed to be literate. Early Islam, as well as Catholicism, did promote education, but it was expensive, for the elites, or for the clerical classes. Hinduism and Buddhism was so caste-based the shit-shovellers learning writing was laughable. Any other culture that developed writing wouldn't have literacy for many reasons, mainly that writing was restricted to the power and religious elites.

Please inform me how the cultural need for EVERYONE to "read the word of God", which religiously is and was unique to Protestant Christianity (as every other religion relied on the clergy or cultural equivalent), was not the primary cultural conduit of the promotion of literacy to the masses. No other religion or culture ever needed or desired every individual to learn letters or any form of writing, and I still submit that even secular literacy development from industrialization would not have been as universal if it didn't come from a religious base to begin with.

So fuck off, ignorant asshat; also beyond my argument that Christianity can be culturally compatible with modern (liberal) civilization, I never argued any promotion of Christianity, as it's a shit-tier religion other than it's cultural adaptability (and that on a personal level I prefer Islam out of the Abrahamic sheep-fucking cults).

>>81725759
sorry but Harris was exposed as a close minded science pastor in that one

>>81726637
I'm sure you've seen it before.
http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/

The world's Muslims routinely hold ideas that would make moderate Christians blush. Their demographic is also rapidly rising, thanks in part to ideas like Erdogan's recent call for Turks to have five or more children and outbreed the natives, who are having less and less children by multiple factors. But hey, let's look at what's happening Europe right now with the tiny minority.

Oh look, in Denmark a man is being charged with blasphemy for the first time in decades for buring a quran.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/23/europe/denmark-quran-blasphemy-trnd/index.html

In Canada bill M-103, something proposed by a woman affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood and designed to combat Islamophobia without defining it passed in the parliament. In the recent Dutch elections Islamist Turks actually won seats thereby giving political franchise, however small, to an actual fifth column in the Netherlands.

If all this is happening now, why should we gamble and wait for Muslim demographics to get bigger and hope against hope they don't end up the same way every other instance of Islamic immigration has throughout history? You're myopic and you have your head in the sand.

>>81726926
>Please inform me how the cultural need for EVERYONE to "read the word of God", which religiously is and was unique to Protestant Christianity
>What are Jews?

>>81719606
>>81720146
>>81722400
>>81722499
Hmm. Two replies ad hominem, two replies telling me what an ignorant bigot I am for knowing what a word in my native language means and offering me a new "alternate" meaning, just like with "gender". "Language evolves" and all that. So 50/50 blatant shilling, 50/50 low-effort Alinskyism.

Is it pretty safe to say Shariablue is trying to take over /tv/ and ensuring it will just become yet another /pol/ colony through their incompetence? Or are all "progressives", affiliated or unaffiliated, just this indoctrinated?

I'm leaning towards Shariablue seeing as they mostly seem to have left around 2 server time, like clockwork. Either way thanks for not letting the Record be Corrected while I was asleep, anons. We've got kids lurking on all of these boards now, and if their parents won't tell them the truth, it falls to the assholes and the faggots of the world to keep that torch lit.

>>81719606
/tv/ is /pol you fucking cuck. If you defend Islam I hope you get raped

>>81720944
yes it is numbnuts. now go help muslims i'm sure will end up raping you

>>81721685
christianity is based on the new testament. the old testament is just an account of life BEFORE christ, to show why he was so important

Know your Shit you little dicked faggot

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>>81718357

Muslims are all damned to hell

>>81723803
yes it has numbnuts. we are eating healthier, living healthier, have better meds, and more cures and antibodies

>>81726026
those christian terrorists are often not christians at all - as in non-practicing or even believing even in the loosest sense.

>>81726567
its not a small percentage. its a large percentage. 40% agree with the actions of the terrorists.

the fact is, they are guests in the western world. its betters to be safe than sorry and kick them all out

>>81726567
the whole thing is a muslim problem you idiot. most of them identify with this stuff, even if they dont act on it, or even let outsiders know.
Either way, they live in a culture that does not assimialte well, so why the fuck are we keeping them here, and allowing them to be a constant threat, when they bring nothing good to counterbalance it

i wish i was a white person of middle to upper class upbringing who feels they have to incessantly defend a paedophile warlord's cult of political violence and oppressing women + anyone who isn't a member of the cult, because somewhere along the line i fell into this low expectations type of racism mixed with cultural relativism leading me to believe that i'm defending diversity and the oppressed when really i'm helping them oppress who they want to while treating them as less than human by having ridiculously low expectations of normal 21st century human behaviour in the rest of the world.

such as not cutting off clits and beheading people for not believing in a cult.

>>81719550
they're not though

>>81718357
Joe took too a fucking gated community in the hills to get the fuck away from 1st world people yet he expects others to take the medicine. It's one of those out-of-touch things Joe does.

Probably up there with his "everyone is just getting pussy left and right with the internet" rant.

Interesting guys, but he's a moron on some things.

>>81728596
but Jesus is part of the holy trinity, he's always existed

>>81723095
what if she consented though

>>81728420
Except their culture didn't require the peasant masses to be literate, and that they had a well-established priestly caste? I am not aware of the jews having such a culture that required literacy at that level during the kingdom. I'm aware during the diaspora that jewish communities were usually well-educated and literate, but it was more because for their survival (to maintain their own culture), and to allow them to enter bureaucratic professions in their host nations. And while they would provide tutoring and education services to patrons, it wasn't like they were spreading literacy outside their insular culture anyway, or had any reason too.

>>81719842
Good post

>>81719930
You're a faggot and I hope you get raped by a pack of *******

>>81719946
>why would you give a crap about dying?
Why would I care about continued living? Wow you really made me think anon

>>81723003
Wow this level of damage control is absurd

You got beaten fair and square kid, just admit it

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>>81724686
Nope because not all religions are killing people at anywhere near the rate that Islam is.

You don't see a massive hubbub about Sikhism or Hinduism do you? Guess why? Because they don't kill people en masse and, CRUCIALLY, they don't openly state that they want to destroy the West.

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>It's an "Islam and its apologists (be it Muslims or weakling beta leftists) get absolutely BTFO and humiliated after trying and failing to debate" episode

Aren't you lads bored of it by now? I used to do it too but it got to a point where I simply close the lid and do something more productive than embarrassing pooskins and their dickriders online.

>>81722976
Oh shit I was that kid

>>81723365

The dying at 40 shit is a meme. The only reason that the average age of people was lower was because of infant mortality.

>>81729272
you must be young. he is a 42 year old man, of course he wants to live in a gated community. its the best way of living.

and people are getting pussy left and right with the internet. are you joking? do you not know what tinder is?

>>81729787
one of the reasons

There is literally nothing wrong with fucking any girl that has gone through puberty. Old enough to bleed old enough to breed

>>81729880
No. The people who normally get laid are just getting laid more. Don't be absurd. Tinder doesn't do shit. Online dating's been around for years and it's absurdly overrated.

And Rogan's hippy dippy nonsense about open boarders and people getting along is bull. Plain and simple.

>>81729880
Also, he's about 50.

>>81719606
pls leave my safe space :(

>>81729979
are you joking? every bloke i know is getting their dick wet at least once a month from sites like Tinder and POF. Its not the same as the old school online dating - the numbers are just exponentially larger.


oh sorry yeah i dont agree with open boarders at all. we need to take an immigration policy like Australia has. and then toughen it even more

>>81730071
Yes, maybe in the circles you hang out in. Congratulations. They don't represent everyone else. It wouldn't be much different without the internet.

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>>81729787
Besides getting raided, dying to fucking plagues, droughts, dying at early age because you ware farming morning to night all fucking night, dying to a simple cold and numerous other modem day trivial illnesses you are kind of right, not really, but a little dying at an early age was a meme

>>81730071
Like I said. the people who would be getting laid normally are just getting laid more. The women have easier access to the safe guys they want to fuck, full up their contacts with said guys and shut all the dorks out. It's the same as it ever was. Maybe even harder.

It just makes it easier to make a pecking order. If it's the wondrous thing you and people like Joe make it out to be why have we been getting Elliot Rodger's type cases over the last 10 years.

You're so fucking bluepilled.

>>81729643
>Aren't you lads bored of it by now?
we have to drive them off the internet so they don't pollute it and pollute the general public with their bullshit
it's the only way

>>81718357
Remove yourself now.

>>81719992
*piss

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>>81729954
Thanks for your input Ahmed

>>81730152
dude if you're not picking up on tinder then you need to take better photos of yourself.

>>81728705
>40% agree with the actions of the terrorists
40% where? Where are you getting this start from? Is that 40% in western countries or 40% in the countries currently being bombed?

>>81730430
source?

>>81730424
I've always had plenty matches and messages. Women are fickle and flaky. I'm just saying, because of your own fucking experiences, it's not the magical golden age you make it out to be. how is that hard to understand?

>>81730263
the things you listed were extremely rare compared to what most people died of

>>81718357
>it's an islamophobia thread
ftfy

was expecting a comfy roganthread, not this shitfest :^(

>>81730513
Well, I guess if YOU say so. Lawl...

And way to not refute any points I made. Women are pickier and fussier than ever. End of story. I'm right.

>>81730549
i didnt say it was a magic age, but people are definitely get laid a ridiculous amoung now than they were even 10 years ago.
>>81730549

>>81728781
So far I've only been directed to one study about how Muslims in Asia and Eastern Europe feel about it. The ones in the Middle East where there are indiscriminate drone strikes and bombings all over, seem to support it more than those in Eastern Europe and Central Asia, where they don't give a fuck. Still no stats on how Muslims in the West see it. An anon above pulled some 40% stat from somewhere, I have no clue where, but I still don't see a majority of Muslims supporting terrorism simply because they're Muslim. And you still haven't given me a reason why we should target Muslims even when they haven't committed any crime or why we should see Muslims who do commit crimes as any different than any other common criminal.

>>81730673
Yes alphas find it easier and women find it easier to round up a stable of safe guys. to the average guy, you might as well give up. I think MGTOW is retarded, but it's a thing dude.

>>81728897
>defend a paedophile warlord's cult of political violence and oppressing women + anyone who isn't a member of the cult
Hey, I'm a Catholic, and all of the religious conflicts, pedo priests coming out of the woodwork have done and the full knowledge that most popes from the 900s till the 1800s were assholes has done Jack squat to impact my faith. You have a skewed idea of how religion and faith works if you think thay just because some of the leaders in a religion have done some screwed up stuff means that adherents support everything they did.

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>that schadenfreude after every terrorist attack because you know a bunch of liberals just got what they wanted and deserved
then memory hole happens and everybody forgets about it for next month's terrorist attack. Good thing there is a never ending supply of useful idiot liberals.

>>81730707
Because they are a threat. There is no reason to allow them to stay here to begin with as the vast majority dont assimilate well, have terrible values and the fact that they are from a religion and culture that wants to see the destruction of their hostsm makes it a no brainer. Kick them out.

>>81730548
Link is literally in the picture. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_battles_and_other_violent_events_by_death_toll#Terrorist_attacks

>>81719606
Islam is not a race

Disliking Islam is not racist

A phobia is an irrational fear. Islamaphobia doesn't exist because fearing muslims is entirely rational

>>81729381
>All of this backtracking
You know, no one is keeping score. You can admit that you were wrong. Btw the kingdom of Israel was around 1000 BC and protestants didn't start up for another 24 centuries. And most Jews, at least the religious ones, are required to know the Torah inside out before they're considered adults, since probably Babylonian captivity, as they were tried to preserve their culture from abroad

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>>81730430
>2015
Should be updated.

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What's the matter mods? Why did you delete this?

worst rogan thread ever

yes niggers and sandniggers are generally a mud race of backwards fucking protoplasm but I'm hardly any better here mr obese NEET fuck

who cares if everyone is a ugly shitbreed in the next 70 years I'll be dead.

>>81729521
Well part time I checked, there only other regions we screwed around with recently are SEA and Latin America. Both regions dying exactly have a friendly attitude to the "West" either. The lesson learnt should be stop fucking around in other countries and they'll stop hating you, not 1488 larping and let's treat all Muslims like some Big Other that's distinctly unique from other people because of their religion

>>81721685
Because Jesus came out saying Old Testament was stupid and should be ignored in favor of his shit.

Slavery is still ok though.

>>81719535
Why do you type this out knowing your logic will fall on deaf ears. This board is just about starwars and the new DC Movies.

>>81731127
I'm not shitting on a race. I'm shitting on a shitty ideology. There was that one white ginger Islamist convert who murdered people.

>>81721685
Reform Islam like people reformed Christianity and we can talk.

>>81730180
Doesn't mean most terrorists are muslim, just means islamists have the best K:D ratio

>>81731194
That's literally what it means Ahmed.

>>81731073
>>81731110

The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
The underwear Bomber was a Muslim
The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
The U-S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
The Bafi Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
The Moscow Theatre Attackers were Muslims
The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Musiims
The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims
The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims

>>81731231
>number of attacks = number of terrorists

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>>81731287
We have numerous terrorist cells in the middle east. All Islamic.

Take your final (you) you dirty whore.

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>>81722400
t. mohammed

>>81729643
>millions of people fleeing for their lives in a war torn country, looking for a place to sleep where bombs won't fall on their heads at any moment
>anon brings up a handful of radical murderers who blew themselves up in his country (ignoring the thousands of other murders perpetrated every year)
>See libtards! this is why those sandniggers should stay out of muh country
>meanwhile he continues to never have children and post in his circle jerk till the end of time, cumming over black crime rate statistics

damn so this is the power of /pol/...

>>81725370
your anecdotes are equally worthless

>>81730853
And your idea of Islam is completely skewed if you think it's directly comparable to Catholicism just because they're both religions. Islam is as much political as it is an organized religion. Stop treating it like it's a private spirituality that Muslims just want to keep to themselves. Every single country that has allowed Islamic entryism has gone the same route over and over and over.

To suggest your culture will be the outlier when you're not even prepared to defend it is the most disgusting form of impotent hubris and arrogance imaginable.

>>81729643
having numbers does not mean you win a debate, i could win a debate against all of you regarding islam but since you will eco the same talking points, it's just a flood of words that will make any sane or factual argument seem like a losing one lmao

>>81732445
Nah he's right. Mudslimes are highly unemployable.

>>81731146
Yeah, because Sweden is totally to blame for... yeah I can't do it. Go fuck yourself apologist. Militant and fundamentalist Islamists attack anyone who isn't a Muslim. They fucking say this over and over and you refuse to accept it because it represents a problem your deluded worldview refuses to acknowledge even exists.

>>81731374
>want me to count the religion of every single incident since the 80's, i'd bet christians have way more blood, if you count just the retarded and unjustified war in iraq, civilian loss there was greater than all your terror attacks combined, but i guess it's alright tho because you see that as your endogroup and thus is exempt for being evil

>>81732493
besed on what ? another set of anecdotes, be real man

>>81732484
this shit right here

Impossible to talk about anything like this, because the second you even consider that banning an entire subset of people based on the actions of some in that group, it's just legions of brain dead copy-paste statistics from 2010

>>81730853
ur a fucking idiot

he was talking about muhammad their founding prophet and perfect ideal man being a pedo warlord you dumb cuck

please actually kill yourself for being this dumb

>>81732579
No, see immigrants in Europe. They are illiterate in their own language and nobody employs them. They just leech off of welfare.

>>81732582
it's called polarization, you have got a group with the same opinion, they group together, consume the same arguments and 'facts' together non-stop and reject any opposing view. it's like reverse SJW for the right wingers, i would not believe in the near future a video where you ask them why are muslim evil, and you would see them shouting : ARE YOU KIDDING ME ?? HE'S A MUSLIM MALE

>>81732582
>some in that group
51% of Muslims surveyed wouldn't report their family members of friends if they knew they were terrorists.

>>81732621
what kind of immigrants are you talking about ? and do you have any source on that ? i highly doubt any european country would accept an immigrant in europe if he was illiterate in his own language. unless it's a refugee of course.

>>81732705
More than half of "refugees" are just economic migrants from countries that aren't even in conflict.

>>81732677
your mother is 21% likely to suck dick tonight

the question is how does she compare to your aunt, because if we cherry pick everything like this your mom just sounds like a slut

>>81732737
its the far right retards that literally cant separate migrants from africa and refugees from syria

>>81732737
maybe, but are you aware how small is the number of refugees compared to legal immigrants who follow a strict procedure to get in any certain country ?

>>81732677
nice source friend really showed me

>>81732755
>cherry pick
No need. You subhumans are proud murderous rapists.

>>81732755
Not like the left can either, otherwise those people wouldn't be there under the pretense of war-borne refugees now would they? I'm sure Uzbeks running people over in Sweden has a whole lot to do with Syria.

>>81732773
refugees searching for asylum

1.2 million in 2016 in the uk

http://www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/assets/0004/0083/Asylum_in_Europe_March_2017.pdf

net migration total 273,000

https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/statistics-net-migration-statistics

>>81732677
are you aware that you can manipulate the answers to a survey based on the way you write it ?

>hey mister, would you be willing to report a family member who has done everything for you since you were a child, and who has committed acts the west would consider terror in the past (i.e defending his country against foreign powers), but has now completely reformed and is normal.

vs

>hey dude, would you report a family member who is a terrorist with plans on committing further terror acts.

i bet you both questions would get you different stats, and if you are a polling agency with an agenda, believe me you get what you want. so stop believing everything you read online and start being skeptically. it's easy to be emotional and start labeling people. but please be skeptical on all things not just the ones you don't agree with. and for anecdotal evidence, i'am a muslim. my family is the most important thing in my life right now, they stood by me and gave me everything i needed to educate myself and be a good person. if i had 1% doubt that one of them is radicalized, i won't take twice to report them.

>>81732859
the left actually is dealing with reality and not with a fantasy scenario where there were no muslims in europe until the refugee crysis, sorry if you guys are too retarded to be aware that there have been boats with africans coming since before 2010 and its a real issue that doesnt have a magical fix

>>81732889
there is a difference between seeking, and getting asylum. thank you for the info, but that's not what i was asking.

>>81732818
the only subhuman in this thread is you you piece of shit, you would actually love to live in saudi arabia where you can buy a wife that can't tell you to fuck off, no go keep voting for politicians that serve saudi arabia like trump

>>/pol/

>>81719720
I have a Muslim work friend who when on a business trip explained to me that Islam was good because he could have 4 wives. I laughed and said ONE is too many and I guess I offended him but we are still pals.

Organized religion is archaic and broken but Islam is the worst of all.

>>81732973
Oh it has a simple fix, one that would have been relatively painless for everyone involved at the time had skeptics not been written off. If the EU had actually set in place provisions for strengthening its outer borders instead of kicking the can down the road and then completely dropping the ball in '15 then there wouldn't be political movements gaining ground to dismantle it entirely right now.

The left isn't dealing with reality and you're implication that it is while Danish men are being tried for blasphemy, English children get thrown under the pedophilia bus, Dutch elections give power to Islamists, and the whole continent gets to experience repeated visits of the truck of peace... well that's straight up fucking delusion.

The left is no where near reality on this topic, not even close. It's too busy writing legislation to combat islamophobia in Canada or telling German women to keep an arm's length.

>>81719535
A phobia is just an irrational fear
There's nothing irrational about fearing muslims or about being afraid of criticizing them because they or the progressive left will kill you or Sense you to prison if you do

>>81719535
A phobia is just an irrational fear
There's nothing irrational about being afraid to criticize muslims because you might end killed by them or sent to prison by leftists

>>81732973
They had muslim terrorist attacks before refugees to.

>>81733007
Not in Germany and Sweden.

>>81733189
>it was already a problem so making it an even bigger problem shouldn't matter

Why is this pathetic excuse anything anyone would bring up and not expect complete ridicule?

>>81733120
are you aware that the west is to blame for so much of this shit going on ? this is something that i don't understand with you people, you do horrible things and then go on as if no consequences will come out of it. when the west goes to a place called the middle east, and innocents are dead, no matter how many levels of mental gymnastics you do, be sure there will consequences. even if islam did not exist, you would get similar consequences in the west for it's actions. the world should learn to be proactive in action and also in studying and being ready for the consquences .. like just look at isis, no way in hell that group would have existed without the west's intervention

>>81733120
stop moving the goalposts, I was talkign about a specific issue of border security

boats with people have been coming since before 2010, you were fucking clueless but the people in europe have handled and taken in people and stayed true to their humanitarian values

now you just circlejerk about leftists because of terror atacks even though you live in the most peaceful times ever recorded, you dumb piece of shit

also dont label someone you have no ideea what they are, there are big problems that need solutions and youre not some superior intelligent person for pointing out things you only notice because of a civil war spawning a crysis of refugees, in todays capitalism nobody wants to actually build up countries and make sure that desperate people dont risk their fucking lives to cross the sea to get to europe where they actually have hopes of decent lives

>>81733266
the retard doesnt even understand that literal french and british were marching armies and drawing arbitrary borders literally in syria not even 100 years ago, these people deny the existance of racial discrimination in the US when jim crow laws existed not even 50 years ago, theres no reasoning with them, all they know is the boogeyman came to europe and europe is now in dangerr

it is in danger, of these retards destroying the most prosperity and peace and unity weve ever had on this continent by voting for populists basing their campaigns on hatred of immigrants rather than dealing with income inequality due to capitalism

>>81733236
you posted a stat about england, and even then. to go back to the first question, i do not believe most of immigrants are illiterate as OP asked. you must understand to be an immigrant in the west, it takes time and money. and if you notice, A HUGE PART of PHD students in europe and the us are in fact immigrants. 28 out of the 42 students in my MD program right now are immigrants

>>81733337
no need to insult him, he's more to reject your arguments if you do .just be civil.

>>81733337
>income inequality due to capitalism
When will this meme die?

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>>81733359
>to be an immigrant in the west, it takes time and money.
For the Germans and Swedes yes.

>>81733266
Oh yes, because the people in Sweden run over were leading a terrible empire to dastardly means in MENA.

Go fuck yourself with that pathetic deflection. Taking in millions of refugees doesn't make their countries any better and just makes the ones in Europe worse. It's ignoring the problem and hoping that spreading it around will make it go away or lighten the blow until some unforeseeable future manifests itself. Do you actually think these refugees are going to have a bright future in Europe? Fuck no, it's going to be one of ostracized strife tearing down Europe while their country of origin stays exactly the same.

>>81733337
The French army in Syria is relevant to Uzbek islamists killing Swedes how exactly? Again, go fuck yourself apologist.

The EU is threatened because hopeless idealists like drank your own moralistic arrogance to the point you actually started thinking your culture was impermeable to any and all outside forces, that any outsider would have no choice but to bow before it and accept it by sheer virtue of living in it. What fucking hubris that is, and what's more, it's been exposed for what it really is. Weakness. It's cowardice masquerading as enlightenment and understanding when deep down you and they both know you have no stomach or working sense of self-preservation.

>>81733486
When the last of the commie blood hits the asphalt.

>>81733513
You don't understand. Swedish women deserve to be raped because of southern American policies 50 years ago. They're white you see.

>>81733502
Look at all those poor children and women.

>>81733513
i did not talk about sweden, i was talking about the west. and sweden allows itself to be represented by the west. now look, i have nothing but respect and adoration for sweden and it's people. but the enemies that west created do not know such a difference.
no genuine refugee is happy to be a refugee, and most immigrants are not happy to be immigrants. am not saying taking them refugees is going to solve anything, what i was saying is that the west was part in creating the problem, and the moral and smart thing to do is to put some effort in recognizing that.

>>81733502
i don't get your picture, what do you mean by it, in contrast to me saying immigrants need money and time to immigrate ?

>>81733713
We have no responsibility to any people but our own. We did not create the problem, our leaders did, and we responded by driving them out. They can fix their own shit.

>>81720419
kisscartoon is your safest bet for streaming but dont watch the movie it's terrible

>>81733789
Money and time being forced from the nation's sovereign people that's being used to wipe them out yes.

>>81733969
but leadership is represented by it's people is it not ? if you don't want to take in refugees, chose leaders that don't, but please if you put in that effort, also chose leaders that will not help in creating the problem. otherwise, as people you have every single right to refuse every single refugees, and you will not find in me nothing but respect in that matter (as an immigrant myself)

>>81734019
i don't think we understand each other, if that picture is of legal immigrants or legal residents, then every single one of them has gone throu a highly strict program of selection, had to wait for years, and paid alot of money (my family paid upward of 25 000$, and had to wait 5 years to immigrate), if you are talking about refugees, then that's another complete different thing, since the basis of it is not immigration, but a humanitarian move by the host country.

>>81733713
If they don't know a difference then why even give them asylum to begin with? If in your own words there's no difference between an imperialist Frenchmen/American and a pacifist Swede to them why are we obligated to give them refuge? Why does acknowledging the West's past mean having to accept them especially if doing so isn't going to solve jack or shit while both making their lives and the host nation's worse?

>>81734216
What do you think Europe is currently doing? Pretty shitty it came to this point, where they have to side with actual fascists just to save their countries because their elected leaders decided to selfishly act all by themselves with absolutely no thought as to the consequences of their actions.

>>81732553
>war is the same as terrorism

The art of moving goalposts

"You hate something you don't know anything about, but they're good people I met a muslim once and he was nice!"

Its like some weird kind of Stockholm syndrome

>>81734522
you define their acts are terror, they define it as war.
they define your act as terror, you define it as war.

>>81732966
Why are you a muslim? Out of spite?