/who/ - Doctor Who General

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>>81690466
Make sure to post in the right thread lads

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FIRST FOR HEATHER

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GO AWAY SIMMCHADS
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT MISSY
IT'S NOT FAAAIIIRRRRRR

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Starry eyed grill is 5/5 pretty cute

>>81690493
I've been coming here since 2012 and have never bothered with streams because my internet has never been good enough to stream video consistently. It finally is as of last week, so when you mentioned streams again this thread I entertained the idea and asked for some guidance. You called me a faggot, dismissed me, mocked me, and now are getting tetchy and backpedalling because you're probably ashamed of what a cunt you've been.

>>81690381
Kids who's eyes light up.
I always forget he was once that kid.

I'm glad he enjoyed it, I hope to god he gets a good send off.
Because the old bastard deserves it more than most Doctors.

We're streaming 'The Pilot' at casualwhostream right now.

Join us for SIMMKINO

is Nardol pegging?

>>81690542
Alright. I'm sorry. My stepbrother is gay and hates the term 'fag' and I shouldn't use it, I'm just used to it as part of 'chan culture'. I see that it still can hurt people, and I'm sorry for using it.

http://doctorwhogeneral.wikia.com/wiki/Stream

There is the link for finding more about the streams. I'm sorry for using the term fag, and for being hostile towards you. Please stick around :)

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>>81690541
I'd give her a puddle to stare into if you know what I mean

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WHAT'S IN THE VAULT
WHAT'S IN THE FUCKING VAULT

>>81690577
What a fucking fag.
Love you really all homo

>>81690542

this >>81690577 is not me and I will continue to call you a newfag which you blatantly are. If you get offended at words you shouldn't be on 4chan

>>81690590
i don't, seriously

I want Nardole inside me.

Returning Simm is shitty decision. diskusse

Post vault rumours

I want to be rammed by ram's ram
have the US class overnights come out yet?

>>81690606
Please stop hijacking my posts, I fucked up and used a term I've been trying to stop using. I apologised. It's over. Don't drag this out between me and the other anon by impersonating me.

>>81690631
How dare you say that in Simmchad territory

>>81690624
We all do.

>>81690607
Meaning I would get very nervous and almost certainly suffer from spontaneous explosive diarrhea, providing her a puddle of liquid shit to stare into

Is he still hearing the drums though?

>>81690661
>he cares about people getting offended over names
wew what a bitchcunt

>>81690672
well, I just think that Missy is the fucking BEST

>>81690624
Walliams pls

>>81690526
>>81690541
She was autistic as fuck though, she acted completely unnaturally even before she died by the puddle

>>81690661
You realize this is a Doctor Who general, so statistically, at least 70% of us are gayfags, and few if any of us get offended by the "fag" part of that.

(I won't tell you which 70% of me is gay.)

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>>81690634
Easy

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>>81690624
>>81690706

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>>81690724
>implying that's bad
>tfw no qt autistic gf

>>81690724
That was just Moffat moffating all over the episode, doesn't detract from her being cute

>>81690737
I'm not talking to 70% of /who/ though, I'm talking to that one specific anon I've probably pushed off ever joining streams by acting like a wanker without thinking. If he got offended or hurt by what I said, that's what matters.

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>>81690737
>gayfags
the correct term is fagfag tyvm

>tfw still no twink companion

Great clip with goat colours

Fuck you Series 9

https://youtu.be/KXWEuZhycIc

>>81690781
nobody believes you're actually that anon from the previous thread

EXCLUSIVE: THE SUN CONFIRMS THAT THE 12TH WILL REGENERATE INTO NARDOLE AT THE END OF SERIES 10, MATT LUCAS ALREADY SIGNED FOR SERIES 11, 12 AND 13

>>81690791
A fagfag is a fag for fags, meaning someone who wants to have sex with gay men; a gayfag is a fag who's gay, meaning someone who wants to have sex with gay men. Can't you see the critical distinction here?

Fady companion when?

>>81690824
Again, I'm not talking to everybody, I'm talking to one person.

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>I'm not making myself very clear. Funny is like this...

>>81690845
I heard in a recent thread he's apparently a guest star in an episode of S10 but I don't remember seeing any actual proof

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>>81690858
>Not funny is like this...

>>81690853
And I'm talking to you
You're pretending to be someone from the previous thread (me) when you're really someone completely different. Your words have no value.

>>81690824
I believe he might be the same anon, I just don't care either way.

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>>81690811
>emojis are the only surviving language after Earth died

>>81690870
It's literally on the front page of his website

>>81690895
fady has a website, but it doesn't show up on google's first page of results?

Will all the shit that's gone down on Earth, how does Bill not know of
- the Doctor
- the Tardis
- Daleks

>>81690889
I have no idea why you're so committed to sabotaging a conversation I'm having with someone else. Please stop.

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Why do Latt Mucas play as if it were a shitty sitcom? God, I really liked idea of Doctor having the butler-sex-slave, but this is bad.
Bring Perkins instead of Nardol, Moffat!!!1

just watched it. hope the season doesn't just mean looking for Bill's gf

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>moffat got bored of writing complex series arcs so he just did a mystery box

>>81690973
I don't think it's so much "got bored" as it is "trying to simplify things to appeal to the masses"
though frankly I'll take "what's in the box" over whatever the fuck you call S6

>>81690973
It's not a box, it's called "the Pandorica" you idiot

>>81690973
it must be near impossible to keep this series interesting when you've got to write the same story for every change in doctor or companion. they gave up decades ago and now just rely on the self fulfilling fandom supporting them no matter what

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>Bill's mum calls from Neville's phone
>ringtone is 4 drumbeats
Neville is Simm

>>81691024
I'm sure I've heard that exact ringtone on the show before but I can't remember whose phone used it

Does anyone have the promo pic for smile that has bill taking a selfie with the doctor?

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>>81691064
here you go fellow simmchad

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>>81690984
>though frankly I'll take "what's in the box" over whatever the fuck you call S6
What, you didn't like this masterpiece?

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>>81691081
thanks simmchad
trying to figure out what bill's phone case is, is it pic related?

>>81691039
>>81691024

link to the ringtone?

>>81691111
>all of time happening at once (yet time's also still progressing idk lol)
>most things look like 2011 london but with some oddities combining things from the previous century
Why was there no futuristic shit at all?

Can someone give me quick rundown on first episode? And what should I expect from 10th season? I lost interest in Doctor Who but I might give it chance.

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what time is it?

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>tfw could have been a companion but instead end up being killed by a sentient time-traveling teleporting liquid fuel because I liked staring at puddles

>>81691185
It's not even an hour. It's designed as a jumping-on point. No previous knowledge is required. Just watch it mate, or don't.

4.64 million overnight figure

The lowest ever

>>81691185
Literally designed as a jumping on point and it's a pretty great episode
Give it a go

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>>81691206
REAL SIMMCHAD HOURS WHO THE FUCK UP

>>81691214
I would like her to be the next Doctor.

>>81691230
All of Series 9 was lower.

>>81691230
>People still care about average tv ratings

We live in the digital/streaming age you dinosaur.

>>81691024
He was the Prime Minister, Simm isn't going to appear on Earth.

>>81691243
Dead show

>>81691081
>capaldhoodie is back

>>81691263
He will. The beard is his disguise.

>>81691185
The first episode was atrocious.
>bill has no personality, typical sassy quirky lolsorandom female companion, the only character moffat knows how to write
>the whole episode nothing happens, they're being chased by a water monster, the monster appears, they run into the tardis, fly to a new location, talk, monster appears, they run into the tardis, fly to a new location, talk, monster appears, i'm not exaggerating this is the whole episode
>even though they're being chased by a monster that takes the form of water every time the tardis lands bill sticks her face right next to a water source and gets attacked every time, no joke
>epic quips for tumblr like "why do you run like a penguin" and "it's a kitchen" (the inside of the tardis)
The mass positive reception to this episode has only further strengthened my belief /who/ is filled with 13 year old boys who think everything related to their favorite show is amazing. They don't have the ability to critically evaluate it because "mum it's my favorite show".

>>81691263
didnt martha erase that entire year or something when everyone said doctor at the same time

>>81691260
You understand that those methods are part of the overnight analysis, right?

>>81691303
You said it yesterday. No one cared then, no ones cares now. Stay mad, cuck :^)

>>81691323
Except they're not

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>>81691335
>mum, they're making fun of doctor who again

>>81691303
cry more

>>81691303
This.

Remember when emoji's were just called smileys, or emoticons?

I'm downloading iViewRipper now, we'll see how I go. No promises though. Also I really don't think Whovians will be that interesting to /who/. It's mostly interesting to me because I grew up on Rove.

They should've named it something else, like Watching Who. That way their tagline could've been "Who's Watching Who?" or "Who's watching Watching Who?", I guess.

>>81691146
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0IayyQX4ymN
here you go anon

>>81691347
Explain what data is gathered and by which methods, then.

Did Bill's actress sign for more than one series?
Feels like she's not gonna last more than one series

>>81691351
Thanks for the (You) :^)

>>81691024
>>81691377
>"Neville" is an anagram of "Le Evil N"
>"N' is the letter after "M" in the alphabet
>"Master" starts with "M"

In all seriousness, I could see Moffat doing this. It's similar to what he did with Moriarty in Sherlock and the ringtone really is four beats.

>>81691403
idk desu

>>81691403
we know she's only signed for one series

>>81691369
there's a slight difference
smileys/emoticons are made with text, like :)
emoji's are the actual, yellow face image things

>>81691392
The amount of viewers who watched the episode live or timeshifted on the day it aired.

>>81691429
You sure showed me. Now go back to unconditionally worshiping your favorite show.

>>81691358
Not an argument. Not that I would expect Doctor Who fans to be capable of forming arguments.

>>81691369
jeez old man, what are you, 18?

Isn't neville a female name?

Episode 11: World Enough and Time

Written by Steven Moffat, directed by Rachel Talalay. Guest star: Michelle Gomez

“My name’s Doctor Who.”


"Friendship drives the Doctor into the rashest decision of his life. Trapped on a giant spaceship, caught in the event horizon of a black hole, he witnesses the death of someone he is pledged to protect. Is there any way he can redeem his mistake? Are events already out of control? For once, time is the Time Lord’s enemy..."


Massive Time Lord door

Event horizon

Nobody even guessing Omega?

>>81691462
No those are emoticons.

Emoji is a brand name

>>81690596
inb4 revealed in the last ep of the season

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>>81691473
Thanks again for the (You)s :^)

Jesus Christ how come there are people watching this low budget Limey shit.

>>81691491
emoji is actually a japanese word that existed before the iphone keyboard did

Jesus Christ, iViewRipper's UI looks like it was made in Paint. Is my computer a Bitcoin miner now?

>>81691473
(You)

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>>81691497
Nice one kiddo.

>>81691491
>Originally meaning pictograph, the word emoji comes from Japanese e (絵, "picture") + moji (文字, "character").

what the fuck are you talking about?

>>81690945
because she serves CHIPS

>>81691519
I'm the only person who has actually provided an argument, little boy.

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>>81691521
Loving the attention :^)

>>81691518
I sincerely doubt the programmers who make that type of software care about visual design outside of things being functional

>>81691468
And how do they derive that figure?
And do you understand what time shifting means?

cytu DOT be/r/casualwhostream

>>81691497
What if the master only wants (You)'s

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>>81691370
>>81691518
Well, that was surprisingly easy.

who are the most likely to paly the next doctor? Capaldi's last season has started so it's weird we don't know anyone for sure yet.

>>81691351
>>81691473
>>81691521
>>81691540

>>81691546
>some 13 year old ass blasted over his IMDB Doctor Who board being deleted, now trying and failing to adapt to 4chan culture

>>81691602
thank you for your service

>>81691615
hayley atwell

Looking at the titles of S10, some episodes do sound kind of interesting (Pyramid at the end of the World, Empress of Mars, Eaters of Light)
Can't wait to see how they're gonna ruin them

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>>81691615
Matt Lucas will be the next GOAT comfy bald Doctor

>>81691636
>Empress of Mars
don't fall for it

>>81691624
Can't get enough (You)s :^)

>>81691630
>thank you for your service
That was the easy part, uploading it is the issue. I've never done that before. Someone last thread mentioned making a mega.nz account, is that the best way?

I feel like /who/'s interest has already (rightfully) moved on.

>>81691661
Keep it up, champ.

>>81691672
mega is the best way yes

interest hasn't moved on. people want to see it. it would get big play on casualwhostream

>>81691686
Thanks, kiddo :^)

>>81691672
>go to mega.nz
>click the big red M button
>select the file
>???
>it's uploaded

That's the easiest way. If you make an account it stays forever (otherwise it'll expire and autodelete after an amount of time). It's not very difficult anon, I'm sure you're capable of figuring your way around the website

>>81691698
Alright, I'll look into doing that now. Just don't get your hopes up for cringe, because it doesn't deliver on that.

>>81691317
They rewinded time back to right before the President was assassinated
Simm was still PM at that point

Now that you've seen the episode, what was the better title for it? The Pilot or A Star In Her Eye?

http://www.strawpoll.me/12758523

I want Simm inside me.

Time to bring mongo back.

>>81691602
10/10 dude
thanks

>>81691739
A Star in Her Eye is very poetic but it's actually a rather odd title since the star is actually a very superficial aspect of the story
Why did she have the star at all? Was it just for the asymmetry reflection thing? They could have accomplished the same thing with someone who had an asymmetrical hairstyle like a long emo fringe

>>81691730
>>81691764
Uploading now, m8s

>>81691769
>They could have accomplished the same thing with someone who had an asymmetrical hairstyle like a long emo fringe
Why though. Also the star is symbolical.

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>>81691790

>>81691828
Because do iris defects that look like a star actually exist in real life? Did moff just include science fantasy for no necessary reason?
They could have accomplished the same thing without making up some condition. Hell they could have just used regular heterochromia and it would have accomplished the exact same thing

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So, tell me, who is the most Meme Master?

>>81691886
the most non canon one

>>81690577
>My stepbrother is gay and hates the term 'fag' and I shouldn't use it

I'm gay and your brother sounds like a fucking faggot.

>>81691886
Crispin

>>81691790
what's your internet like? Are you on ADLS2 where it'll take hours or do you have NBN which at least has functional upload speeds?

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>>81691908
I see what u mean.

>>81691944
It's finished uploading, I'm just not sure how to share the link. When I click "get link" it tells me I need to create an account for that feature. So unless there's another way, I gotta do that now

>>81692017
go ahead and make an account, mega is useful as fuck and you'll be /who/'s hero of the day

>>81691868
>Hell they could have just used regular heterochromia and it would have accomplished the exact same thing
Again, why though. I don't really get why you're so mad for that star. The apical point of the episode is Bill tempted to travel the cosmos with the girl with a star in her eye. It's fine like this, really. Also keep in mind that the episode is meant for a new audience, and Moffat always liked to write the show a bit like a fairytale.

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>>81692088
>tfw intelligent enough to understand moffat's stories and all of their complex intricacies

>>81690945
Moffat soft-rebooted Earth a few times, no-one knows about Daleks anymore.

Why peaople so much hate "In the Forest of the Night"? Fuck you all, I love this episode. Comfy and GOAT.

>>81690973
Pretty much every Moffat series has the same sort of arc to it though:
>A mysterious event/object is referenced early on
>At the end we find out it was timey wimey as fuck

>>81692132
do you know what comfy means?
It means small scale drama in a familiar and homely location. Forest of the Night was none of that

>>81691868
>Heterochromia in Her Eye
that would have been a much better title
But no yeah, the star was just a bit of fun

>>81692132
All I remember is that there's lots of kids in it and kids in Who are usually trash

Inside the vault is the doctor himself, actively regenerating. it's just taking a long time

>>81692203
that kid who played a young danny pink in Listen was a real lad though

>>81692117
It's not intricate at all, that's the point, so new watchers can get the spirit of the show. I can't wait for Moffat to go but people here are really grasping at straws to criticize this episode. It's nothing unforgettable but it's fine, really

>>81692132
It's got the worst script of any episode in the whole Moffat era. It was fucking painful to watch, people just barking "THIS IS THE MORAL OF THE EPISODE" at eachother non stop, no-one having an actual conversation like a human would.

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>>81692049
>>81691730
>>81691764
>>81691630
>>81691370
Here it is https://pastebin.com/G1GZqUiB Tell me if there's anything wrong with the download.

I'm willing to do this every week if there's still demand for it, which there might not be after /who/'s seen it.

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He didn't age at all, is he an Immortal?

>>81692132
It was really bad written. I could ask the same question for Robots of Sherwood though, why the hate, it was really fun.

>>81692245
>It's nothing unforgettable but it's fine
Yes, I especially love the intelligent choice to have Bill put her face right up to a water source five times when she knows a monster that takes the form of water is pursuing her. Genius writing, just genius.

>>81692271
don't forget that the girl who went missing a year ago and ended up in a bush outside their house

That anon who decided to start watching Capaldi here.
Watched Into The Dalek because I watched Deep Breath a long while ago.
The whole thing with him being a good man and his hatred towards the Daleks was pretty bloody good actually, I thought I'd despise a good Dalek episode.

Does it get better from here then, I think I'll marathon it at some point.
Also Clara's a lot better when not trying to bone the doctor and is actually being a friend.

>>81692300
He's had his head cut off, remember?

>>81691757
>back

>>81692329
oh shit it's (You) again. we get it, (You) didn't like the episode, it's not necessary to write 10 different posts about it.

>>81692337
Because she was a runaway that came back home. It's not like she was stuck in the bush for a year, anon.

>>81692344
Yeah the best Capaldi episodes are firmly ahead of you.

>>81692299
Thanks anon
just wanted to check that you're aware you're fine posting mega links directly and don't need to pastebin in the future

>>81692323
Robots of Sherwood was a comfy kid-friendly episode done right. It was light hearted and fun.

Forest of the Night was verbal diarrhoea with a non existent plot. It was no way near ready to be filmed and released, you can see how strained the production was getting that that episode ever aired.

>>81692359
I want to see you manchildren rationalize why this episode is "good".

>>81692344
there's a lot of varying opinion on here around Capaldi's era. Some love it and some hate it.
But I think if you've enjoyed Into the Dalek definitely keep going

>>81692367
>just wanted to check that you're aware you're fine posting mega links directly and don't need to pastebin in the future
Thanks. I didn't even try because I assumed the link was so long that 4chan would catch it as spam, and I didn't want to risk getting a ban and leaving you all hanging.

>>81692337
Plot holes aren't the problem with that episode. Really you just have to accept plot holes in Doctor Who, it's not a big deal. That episode is awful because it's just characters wandering around a forest set talking at each other a bit, then something vaguely mystical happens and the episode ends.

>>81692299
just downloaded, watching it now and it's pretty cool
If you're down to keep uploading them I'm down to keep watching them

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>mfw Joy Division in a Doctor Who episode
Have we reached a higher plane of existence than S9's golden age?

>>81692485
This. You can tell FCB wanted it to feel like some sort of life-affirming transcendent experience, but nothing comes off.

>>81692485
But that's pretty much what The Pilot was like.

Bill creepily stalks a gril. There is a spoopy puddle. Then a spoopy girl. Then a runaround.
Then the puddle just wanted to be pals.

>>81691024
It was also the alert that Harriet Jones used in The Stolen Earth when she contacted Rose

>>81692540
I get the feeling that with this season as they knew it was Capaldick's last, they just let him have even more free reign and get everything he wanted in there, like the Movellians, Mondasian Cybermen and even his favourite songs appearing in the soundtrack.

>>81692364
>>81692485
you guys are right of course, I just wanted to join in and that was literally all I could remember about the episode

face of bois in the vault

>>81692537
I'm glad the download worked. I'm planning on continuing to watch the show, as far as I'm aware a new episode will air after each Doctor Who episode. So we'll see if /who/'s still interested next week, and I'll do it again since it's relatively easy.

Is the /who/ stream up right now? That's probably the best way to view it

>>81692552
The Pilot was dialogue heavy, but it also had plot, introductions to new characters, the main characters meeting eachother, and the whole introduction to the TARDIS setpiece/run around.
And the script was actually good.

Post ratings NOW

>>81691277
>>81691243
How can it be dead if viewership is up?

>>81692655
It's not. Viewership is falling in general on overnights so Doctor Who rising is actually a big improvement.

>>81692632
>And the script was actually good.
>you run like a penguin
>it's a kitchen
>character puts their face next to a water source 5 times when she knows she's being chased by a water monster
Yes, very good.

>>81692655
Stop using your brain. Stop that!

reminder in this new digital age that 60% of people watch on demand now

tv ratings doesnt matter at all grandpa

Do you guys think Bill might have been gay

>>81691303
>The mass positive reception to this episode

Abbreviation: You're triggered because plebs/ normies liked it. Why anon?

>>81692632
no it wasn't it was laboured and boring and the entire ep was just to force a gay romance which wasn't even properly defined at any stage

Stealing education fron capaldi seems to come straight from Peep Show. The trips in the tardis made no sense and were seemingly random.

Was the water the spaceship? If so why were there burns marks? Who was the guy UNDER the puddle looking out? Never mentioned again.

this seems like a classic moffat artifact. Something from a first draft when the ship wasn't a magic water tardis.

>>81692724
I want to interact with people who aren't low IQ subhumans. Should blame myself for bothering to wander into /who/.

>>81692722
Bill's a woman?

>>81692602
I think you may be right. He seems to be having so much fun in the role so far.

>>81692602
>his favourite songs appearing in the soundtrack.
where'd you get this one from?
also chumbleys when?

>>81692742
>Who was the guy UNDER the puddle looking out? Never mentioned again.
Yeah, what the fuck was that about? Had the stereotypical autistic cringeworthy dialogue all Doctor Who villains have.
>TARGET ACQUIRED
>PURSUIT ENGAGED
Cringe.

>>81692742
>Was the water the spaceship?

Oh, so you are retarded,

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The ratings that matter. Taboo was renewed because of iplayer ratings, it bombed on TV.

>>81692714
Reminder that is what time-shifting actually means.

>>81692760
The fat person was a woman?

How do people like Simm's overacting as the Master? It was pretty cringey.

>>81692781
Time shifting is recording from your TV and watching later, not online.

>>81692772
And it makes no sense to the super time travelling water stuff later.

>>81692722
I watched it when it aired in australia with my mum
when there was first the shot of bill and heather staring at each other at the party with the whole 'whoosh time slows down when they look at each other' thing she asked "is she gay"? I said "yah" and that was it

All things considered I'm a little surprised she wasn't bothered, back 10ish years ago she stopped watching the bill out of protest when a gay character was added or something

>>81692714
>tv ratings don't matter
And this is where you revealed yourself, cats

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>>81692790
Love it

>>81692802
No it isn't. All methods of non-live viewing are included in the statistical analysis nowadays.

>>81692784
Why do Bill give Nardole extra-chips? didn't get it

>>81692847
Yeah but not in overnights.

>>81692816
Your mum is growing as a person. I am proud of her

>>81692853
Why did nardole say "yay finally" when bill said bigger on the inside like he's heard someone say it before

>>81692858
t. gallifrey base

>>81692704
Kids like the funny lines, anon
It does look like a posh kitchen
Bill wanted to see if it was just incidental water or not, also she was generally more trusting of it every time because she wanted the v

>>81692774
Answer his question

>>81692874
Because the script is 100% bad fanfic

>>81692874
Cos there definitely will be some new companions from the university in CANON comics later or something, idk

>>81692874
Wait for the BF boxset of the Doctor and Nardole's adventures

>>81692874
Nardole has presumably been travelling with the Doctor long enough that he knows what it looks like when someone sees inside the TARDIS.

>>81692874
Because he would've said it before

>>81692926
This

4.64m overnight
24.8% audience share
2nd most watched show on BBC One for the evening.

The ratings are fine. The final ratings plus catch up etc will probably consolidate around 6-7 million which is consistent with Series 9. If the overnights dropped to 2 million, then there would be something to worry about.

We also have to remember, the show in its current form is 12 year old now. The ratings reflect that.

What did bill say she thought the tardis was?
>is this a notfu?

what's a notfu? what did she say?

>>81692954
Has it really been that long?
I don't know why the doctor is suddenly established at a university, and why nardole is acting like that
Has there been a time skip that I don't know about lol

>>81692993
a knock through. Took me a few times to work out what she said

>>81693003
yeah they have been there 70 years

>>81692993
She said "knock through"
My hearing's shite, so I have subtitles

>>81692993
"Knock through", I didn't understand it when I watched it either but I think she thought that the box just had a hole knocked through the back and they'd walked into a different room.

Which makes sense, really. I'd just never heard the phrase before.

>>81692993
Notfu's are the aliens that are in the basement. It's revealed that Bill is a notfu in the finale.

>>81693006
>>81693022
what is a knock through?

>>81693029
what is google?

>>81693018
I remember something like that from the episode
So capaldi has been lecturing for 70 years, nobody at the uni gave a shit, and he was there while all the other previous doctors were doing crazy shit and aliens were taking over the world and he didn't try to stop them?
Or was that all rewritten twice over during matts era or some shit

>>81693003
>Has there been a time skip that I don't know about lol
Multiple.

-Time skip between Husbands of River Song and Return of Doctor Mysterio
>Doctor reunites with Nardole, gets him a new mechanical body, starts travelling with him
-Time skip between Mysterio and The Pilot
>Doctor and Nardole set up base at the university to protect whatever's in the vault, stay there 70ish years

>>81693029
It's what I'm going to do to your butthole

>>81693003
Are you retarted? Cos I am, but I still get that Doctor lives in the universety 50-70 years befor Bill come's up

>>81692989
Oh I see.....

So you're going to 'forget' all the bullshit about 'spring start' and 'early start' returning who to the glory days?

The Pilot got virtually the same figures as last series. After all the gay agenda publicity. Next ep looks like a pile of shit.

Let's see what happens...

>>81693052
y didnt peter capaldi help out when daleks took over earth

>>81693025
>>81693029
yeah knock through, it's a building term used in renovations where they knock down an interior wall to connect two or more rooms.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCfFBpSBxEc

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Kris Marshall is trending on facebook now because every clickbait website that counts as "journalism" is reporting on the literal baseless rumor that he was selected as the doctor

/who/'s pranked GB and dwsr before, should we try and meme some fake news by pretending to be a BBC insider? Does The Mirror have a tipoff email? Can we fake a BBC identification badge (with the details blacked out) to attach as proof?

>>81693068
cos that was non-canon

>>81693089
I suggest convincing The Mirror that Cara Delevingne is the next companion
basically try and meme jazz hands into becoming actual news

It's not a prank. Marshall left his popular series a week before the production of the finale.

>>81693052
>12 was lecturing in a uni during every single present day story in the history of Doctor Who
Must be something bloody important in that vault

>>81693062
>So you're going to 'forget' all the bullshit about 'spring start' and 'early start' returning who to the glory days?
Not even the BBC actually pushed this so I don't know who this is aimed at.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dhehkqqwa8M
Why is she so cute /who/?

>>81693131
why would he interfere with events that were getting fixed by another incarnation at the time?

What do you think 12 did on christmas 2009 when everyone turned into the master? How did a master not come across the tardis in his office? Can't time lords sense that shit? 10 even hid his tardis out of sync so the master couldn't get his hands on it

>>81693138
Yes they did, immigrant.

So what's the next set of episodes?
2 - emojbots that kill anyone who doesn't smile 24/7 (aka twilight zone rip-off)
3 - female ice warrior
4, 5 - ?
6, 7, 8 - 3 parter truth monk episodes where angels turn out to be the real villains
9, 10 - ?
11, 12 - Cybermen

>>81693172
>why would he interfere
to prevent multiple deaths

>>81693161
I want my tongue in her ass.

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>>81693161
>you will NEVER be with her

>>81693177
Incorrect
3- serpent under the Thames but humans are the real monster
4- wooden girl
5- oxygen zombies
6, 7, 8 - monks that are a metaphor for Murdoch press
9 - female ice warrior
10 - light eating monster

>>81693172
>10 even hid his tardis out of sync so the master couldn't get his hands on it
Well then that's probably what 12 did
It's not like he didn't know it was coming or anything

Reminder that poll if you haven't already
http://www.strawpoll.me/12755860
http://www.strawpoll.me/12755860
http://www.strawpoll.me/12755860

>>81693258
>http://www.strawpoll.me/12755860
Jeez, 8/10, really, who vote that? Pilot was defenetly 4/10 max, really lame story

>>81693258
7/10
completely competent, fun, good enough, but it didn't excel in any way

>>81693177
3 is Sarah Dollard's story about a giant serpent in the Thames
4 is Moffat's creepy story about wooden people in Bill's new flat
5 is Mathieson's story about dead crew members coming to life on a spaceship, seems pretty Before the Flood/whatever the other one is called
9 is the ice warriors on Mars, by Gatiss
10 is Rona Munroe's about the eaters of light, some monster in Scotland

>>81693322
4/10 is less than a passing grade, anon
you need to recalibrate that scale of yours. Anything below 5 is different degrees of fail

>>81693353
4 is Mike Bartlett, not Moffat.

>>81693322
>story

Ugh, I just hope the mirror is wrong for once and doesn't cast Kris Marshall. I was on board with Capaldi and he should have been the Doctor for another series (who the hell kicked him out? or was it his choice to leave with Moffat?), but if it is Kris Marshall I am seriously considering dropping the show. I don't want a woman

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>>>/fa/12397807

/who/ BTFO

CAPALDI IS
NOT
EFFAY

https://twitter.com/GirlyLetters/status/853615488265596928
Is she being serious?

>>81693322
new waifu

>new doctor is a woman
>female doctor, master, companion
What will this show be like if it were like this?

>>81692650
6/10
I'm so used to being underwhelmed by Doctor Who it's a little alarming.
Infinitely more excited for episodes written by the other writers. Even Gatiss' inevitable mediocrity will at least be more interesting than this was.

>>81693333
Quads confirm power ranking
This is now /who/'s official review

>>81693353
>4 is Moffat's creepy story about wooden people in Bill's new flat
The wooden monster looks cool in the trailer but already going back to modern day earth? Really going all out with the budget in these season, aren't they? Jesus christ.

>>81693391
>for once

>>81693371
Fuck, you're right my bad. http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2017-04-15/doctor-who-series-10-steven-moffats-episode-guide-4
I was using this and saw "By Steven Moffat" forgetting that it was he who wrote the article, not the episode

>>81693413
Viewership would decrease EVEN more. 10 year old boys don't want a show about a bunch of women.

>>81693437
It was right with Simm and saying that Capaldi was going to be the actor replacing Matt Smith

>>81693470
What if the doctor and bill fell in love and it became time travelling lesbians?

Currently /who/ rates 'The Pilot' at 6.67272727273
Christ I didn't know there were 55 posters on /who/

>>81693490
Bill's a lesbian?

>>81693401
The beard he has sure is a convincing disguise

>>81693421
They will have already done the obligatory off-world/period piece pair by then so I don't see the issue. The proximity of a modern day Earth episode to the start of the series doesn't really say anything about budget.

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>>81693397
I have it on good authority that he is.

>>81693421
to be fair, we leave modern day Earth a lot more than we did a few series' ago

>>81693401
The press saw a different version. Remember the whole nonsense about the 'countdown'? They probably had to scrap it after the leak and announcement.

Having said that, I would not put it past GL to be so retarded as to not have seen the trailer at all.

>>81691303
I respect your opinion.

I'm going to respond by saying things I like about the episode, even though I hate nearly every Moffat episode ever written.

1. The Monster

I thought it was going to be piss poor based on the previews. One of them said something about "you'll never look at puddles the same way again!!!" and it sounded like such bullshit I came in expecting to eyeroll through the whole episode. Then we saw her face in the water for the first time, and I got legit spooked. I found puddle girl properly creepy and disturbing at times - there was an eeriness about the concept and the performance, but also the tone of the episode as a whole. She reminded me very much of Japanese horror icons like Kayako and Sadako, and it struck me that the Pilot was essentially a ghost story in the same vein as Dark Water or Shutter. I was genuinely affected by Heather's story - we knew so little, but for me, it seemed to say so much. Maybe I'm alone in this, but did anybody else think her transformation was a metaphor for suicide? She always wanted to "leave", she struck me as somebody haunted and

>>81693196
Why didn't Doctor Who just kill Hitler as a baby

>>81693470
Baiting aside, I do think figures will drop. Next week looks terrible.

>>81691303
>>81693589

2. The Atmosphere

It was really weird, but I loved it. It was the first time in a long time that Moffat's Who has tapped into any emotion except smug self-congratulation, and it struck me as a really left-field choice - wistfulness, a sense of yearning and melancholy. That could have been me alone, though, and something I brought to the episode, but to me it was about a sense of absence, rather than loss - something missing from life that you'd never had. A sense of meaning, or purpose, or importance - love, acceptance, intimacy - the fact that Bill has a mother she's never known, and lost a woman she never knew, suggests this was intentional rather than accidental. Bill built her mother in her imagination.Her crush struck me as one those rare, strange moments of connection, of promise, of potential - catching a beautiful boy/ girl's eye, a smile, a look - and you -know- it means nothing, but in your head you're still imagining some ethereal romance.

If it's Kris Marshall I swear I will drop this fucking show. I don't think they possibly can get a more unlikable cunt to be the Doctor

>>81693601
why doesnt dr whom kill isis

>>81693589
Ju-On ran Onyro villains into the fucking ground so I couldn't take this puddle girl seriously. Especially because they cast such an attractive girl in the role.

>>81693601
It always seemed to me that the Doctor simply approving Holocaust.

>>81693505
There aren't.

>>81693601
Because he has to save him from being assassinated later in his life and doesn't want to cause a paradox

>>81693615
t. gallifrey base

>>81693615
>white male
>quite funny
why drop the show, he'll be good

>>81691303
>>81693589

3. Bill

I hear your criticisms about Bill and I think they're valid. It struck me (and concerned me) that Moffat seemed to be trying to ape RTD in this episode. Working-class companion in dead-end job wants more from life. Promiscuous, critical mother figure with a string of bad boyfriends. A monster who mimics its victims before becoming them - all finished off with a dash of Moffat's pseudo-Whedonesque glib quippery (I'm not a fan). Bill, to me, seemed sporadically inconsistent - one minute it's "lol chips i fatted her" and the next she's saying some big, poetic, wordy, lyrical speech. It's a bad habit I hope Moffat breaks. For all that, though, I liked her. Maybe that's just Mackie's performance, but she seemed to give her a vulnerability, a self-consciousness, a sense of self-doubt and lack of confidence that sold the inconsistencies - maybe she's talking plain because she's scared if she talks clever she'll get judged or called out or criticised for being wrong. Maybe she only starts owning her intelligence as her confidence grows over the year - she shares more and risks more. And Bill being an orphan (another dead/ disappearing mother from Moffat raised an eyebrow) at least seemed to be owned with some kind of emotional verisimilitude. She's never felt like she belongs, and she's looking for something, or someone, to fill the hole - as opposed to Amy Pond, who seems spectacularly unconcerned about her lack of parents, nor seems to acknowledge them past her wedding day, whereafter they've apparently expended their usefulness.

>>81693589
>even though I hate nearly every Moffat episode ever written.
This does not increase the credibility of your opinion

>>81691403
It's been confirmed she's getting dropped this season to make way for a new companion with the new doctor.

>>81693589
sod off Miss Happy Die Happy you nonce

Is Zagreus that bad? Its next for me but I've heard bad things

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>>81693603
>mfw next week gets much higher ratings because of le meme robots

>Meanwhile, on anon's facebook feed

>Kris Marshall REVEALED as new Doctor!
Due to unconfirmed reports, the next Doctor is Kris Marshall, best known for-

I'm sure they did this song and dance with Idris Elba some time ago.
Not that I have anything against Kris, he seems likable enough despite always going to be the clueless one from My Family in my eyes, but at least label it as a fucking rumour.

Personally I'd be up for John Simms as the Doctor.
>And then The Master regenerates into Tennant

>>81693667
Who the fuck are you and why would we read this blog shit?

>>81690541
AMATERASU

>>81693703
It's...unwieldy.

>>81693703
I was in your position too once, it's not as bad as people make it out to be. It's at least interesting

>>81693680
I just realized that EVERYTHING will be new from season 11. I'm scared.

>>81693680
it's because hes worried he'll be immediately be called a butthurt moffatcuck and have his opinion ignored if he doesn't include that

>>81693646
>having taste
>hurrr durrr it must be gallifrey base

>>81693656
He was the weakest part of Death in Paradise and dragged the entire show as a result. I don't care who the fuck is the Doctor, but he would be shit. I'd rather have Alfie Enoch back for the sake of not having to stand that unfunny cunt.

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>>81693721
>They steal each others past bodies to mock each other
I would actually like this cause Tennant and Simm are great, but fuck me that sounds like tumblr fanfiction if I've ever heard any

>>81693703
It's not bad; it's different.
Once you're on board with that it's doing, you start to like it more and more.
It's definitely a mess at times, don't get me wrong, but it's a fun mess and never really commits any major sins.

>>81693753
>I just realized that EVERYTHING will be new from season 11
Exciting, isn't it?

>>81693770
Kris Marshall vs black dude from black mirror and get out

>>81691303
>>81693589

4. The Doctor

Loved Capaldi. I appreciated spiky, edgy, callous Doctor as a necessary result of his long life and many losses - he can either be Time Lord Victorious, or somehow find a way to protect himself from the sacrifices and the pain in order to keep going and doing what he does - but I liked that we got a Doctor who seemed to have been looking for something himself, just like Heather, and Bill. He's trying to be responsible, to do the right thing, to honour his debts, and be a good man. He's someone who's created a robot butler because he's so lonely, because for once he's living with the losses and the pain, not running away or moving on, but owning them and working through it.

The dynamic between him and Nardole is fantastic. It's got a real Sancho Panza, Don Quixote feel to it that I like. Nardole's down-to-earth cynicism really marries well with the Doctor's whimsy and romanticism - if the Doctor gets lost in his ideas, in his own head, Nardole remains sensitive to the heart, and to the humanity of the moment - "He never notices the tears." It's a great way of keeping the Doctor grounded and human and real and relatable, rather than having him be a one-dimensional caricature or a messianic figure of mass worship and adoration.

In conclusion, I think Capaldi's Doctor is going to win a lot more fans in this season, and it's going to cement him as a universally beloved figure. Nardole is unironically the key.

Oh, and I think that the Doctor becoming a lecturer is inspired, as was the span of time the story encompassed.

Sorry for the TL;DR blogpost etc, I just think it's kind of remarkable I came away from the episode feeling good about it.

>>81693770
back to gallifrey base so you can all circle jerk over michaela coel, cuck

>>81693783
no its just like matt smiths new era

>>81693615
I don't hate him as much as you do but I don't want him
After seeing some Death in Paradise, depending on how he plays it I feel as though he'll either be a less funny 11 or a less charistmatic 10. Either way it'll just be sort of flat

>>81693725
I'm anon, anon, and you would read it because this is a forum for the sharing of opinions. If you're not here to read about Doctor Who, then what are you here for?

>>81693806
You're not a literary genius, immigrant. Far from it.

>>81693779
It'd at least be enjoyable shitty tumblr fanfiction, so that'd be cool.
Of course, if we really wanted to go tumblr fan-fiction, we could make a character who knows the Doctor from the future, knows how to pilot the Tardis, makes Daleks quiver in their can, be able to stand up the entire third reich and then fuck the Doctor's brains out.
But that would be stupid.

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>>81690466
As a massive Series 5 fan, I was happy to hear the Mad Man with a Box theme reprised for the TARDIS reveal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMoNRnsFlXY

>>81693811
Where did I say I wanted a fucking woman, you mong? I want a decent actor and trust me the guy obsessed with sex from Love Actually doesn't fall within that definition in the slightest.

>4.64m
JUST

The scene with Bill and Doctor in the toilet is beautifully shot, by the way. And the whole episode is shot better than the darkened static shots of 8-9 seasons. Love it.

>>81693875
Lol okay, i want david tennant as the master now
what's he up to these days

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>>81693890
Apologies.

>>81693838
Laughing at you

>>81693680

I just included it because I read the original poster's comment, and could recognise the validity of his comments as someone who's shared his opinions in the past. Moffat does have the exact same problems that he described, and I'm not necessarily saying that they weren't a problem in this episode, just that it was doing enough else that I found I could forgive them far more easily than in the past.

Also, credibility doesn't really apply to opinions, unless you're suggesting I'm lying about my opinion?

I'm just recording my personal views on the episode, I'm not trying to argue my interpretation. If I was offering an argument, than yes, I'd agree, the fact that I didn't like Moffat wouldn't increase the veracity of the argument, but I'm not.

There was very little in this episode that wasn't disappointing.

Nardole is the most irritating waste of time ever and detracts from every moment he appears. This is Doctor Who but he clearly thinks he's still in Little Britain. "oh Bill wants to use the toilet, but LOL I did a stinky ¤¤¤¤, me so funny" oh ¤¤¤¤ right off.

Bill is not much better. She can't do emotional well. Talking to the water thing and saying she'll miss it she sounds like shes just reading of a cue card with no emotion while the water thing copying her sounds heartfelt and heartbroken. They should've switched the two actresses.

Oh and people complain about how slow classic who can be: never had a problem with it there, but the pacing here was glacial!

>>81693888
Series 10 soundtrack WHEN

>>81693903
>3rd most watched of the day
>no 1 on iplayer
UNJUST

>>81693934
Who are you?

>>81693903
You are forgetting those who were watching the show online/streamed. This is not the early 2000s anymore where you could easily get 10 million of viewers because internet speeds were usually so shit that trying to stream an episode would have taken ages. It was a worldwide trending topic on twitter and received mostly favorable reviews by the fans, which is extremely important.

>>81691303
Congratulations, you've outgrown Doctor Who, now fuck off

>>81693911
I agree about the bathroom scene, but such generalised comments about series 8-9 (as if there was no use of handheld camera or bright light across 25 episodes?) are sheer nonsense, given the range of different directors and DOPs who worked on them.

>>81693911
I agree, but I can't but my finger on why.

>>81693589
>>81693613
>>81693667
>>81693806
Take notes kids, this is called a discussion. This is actually explaining your viewpoint.

>>81693842
At least he's capable of providing arguments as to why he liked the episode, which is way more than I can say for you mindless drones.

>>81693842
You're making a lot of assumptions based on my posts. I know I'm not a literary genius, nor is anything I write a work of literary merit. I don't even think my opinions are equivalent to some profound insight.

I just liked things about the episode, and was happy to be surprised and moved by a Moffat episode, and I thought that maybe if that anon read my views, he'd be able to enjoy the episode more too.

Which would be nice, don't you think?

Too many arguments in this general degenerate into polarised "everything you said is wrong and everything I said is right". People should accept that other people's views are (usually) equally valid before contending them. It's not about utterly disproving somebody, it's about seeing things in a different way.

>>81693982
Anon who?

>>81693958
The worst thing is they knew that it was slow.

They tried every weak trope in the book to make a puddle scary. It's a cheap trick to use jump scares over and over when no one is in any real danger.

>>81694010
Cos of dynamic you dummy

>>81694015
>he's

>>81693589

-haunted and disturbed and hopeless*

>>81692344
Episode 3 is shit.

Episode 4 is GOAT.

>>81691369
Yes anon I do
Fucking hate emojis
>>81691462
Pretty sure smileys and emoticons were used interchangeably
I was late on smartphones, but I only started hearing "emoji" about five or so years ago

So why are people saying the Doctor is back at being the Doctor? I don't see any difference between this 12 and Series 9's 12.

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>>81694096
>tfw intelligent enough to point out typos and grammar mistakes in a hastily typed out response on an anonymous message board

>>81690945
Because of wibbly wobbly tim-y wimey bullshit.

>>81694106
I think she killed herself desu.

>>81694133
Because it was the Clara Who show, just like the Rose Who show of RTD's days and it focused more on developing the companion that the fucking protagonist of the show. I get it, the companions are the voices of the viewers, but fuck it, I want my whimsical alien taking me to far off places across the universe and not the companions having drama because of their shitty relationship they have with their parents/mentors.

BRING BACK ROSE

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Change my dear...