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>>81681291
What's even the joke in question here? I can't think of any joke in the episode that could have been considered a sensitive point
Is it about how bill fatted a girl?

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C A P A L D I
M U S T
F E E D

>>81681376
>Is it about how bill fatted a girl?

Yeah.

When will the Face of Boe return?

>>81681376
Yes. Reminder that beauty is subjective, but implying in any way that you find fat people less attractive is fatphobic and horrible and you should be ashamed of yourself.

It's far from being all over.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/3339851/new-doctor-who-revealed-as-kris-marshall-takes-over-from-peter-capaldi-and-has-already-joined-the-cast/

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quick bit of info - there's gonna be screenings of the premiere plus the first episode of Class at select theaters on Monday and Wednesday, one of which happens to be a theater near me, so I'm gonna pop over on either one of those days and see if there's anything of substance there

god I've missed on-season /who/

>>81681314
this triggers the Cartmel

>>81681442
jesus christ, wanderer

>>81681169
I'm still annoyed when he raged at Gaiman because his book got nominated by the Sad Puppies even though a) Gaiman had no idea that this was happening, b) Gaiman is a very open Leftist with no sympathies to the Sad Puppies, and c) any of his books would be nominated anyway simply because he's Neil Gaiman. It came off as Sandifer attacking the very people the Hugos stood for, and possibly did more to help the Sad Puppies than anything. Plus, for all their prestige, the Hugos are just another awards show, and making so many angry blog posts about that seems like looking at the small picture. His obsession with Vox Day just felt weird and made both sides of the argument seem like loons with too much time on their hands.

>>81681152
I hate using that word, but Gillen's writing comes off as pretentious. Wicked and the Divine, Phonogram, and Uber are utterly joyless reads that seek to give you a message rather than an actual story. Just seems like Gillen aiming for high concepts, but having too immature a writing style to really deliver on those ideas.

>>81681578
I'm being sarcastic m80.

>>81681540
This is the same non-news already posted earlier.

The Sun doesn't even have a source, they're just quoting the Mirror (plus a month-old tweet by a music journalist).

Meanwhile, the Mirror article they're using at their source is full of nonsense.

For example:
>Bookies Ladbrokes stopped taking bets on him becoming the next Time Lord after a huge rush from punters.
Well, that's true, but that happened weeks ago—and since then, they reopened betting, then suspended it again because of an even bigger rush on Phoebe Waller-Bridge, who's still the favourite at every bookie site, with Kris vying for fourth place with David Harewood and Natalie Dormer. So, if this is actually meaningful at all, it argues against their own headline.

>Post yfw Clara returns in the Christmas episode so she can go back to Gallifrey
>Post yfw Twelve and Clara both die together

Good episode

>>81681655
Wasn't he more mad that Gaiman didn't remove himself from the running like Alastair Reynolds? Not that that's really reasonable either, of course...

>>81681717
shit trip

>>81681738
I love you too dear Anon!

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>Velvet coat and shirt combo will never return

The episode was lame but I'm just glad DW is back.

They should've gotten the Heather actress for the new companion instead of Pearl.

>>81681756
>Capaldick will never return

>>81681726
Eitherway, Sandifer should have known what was going on (that the Sad Puppies were nominating some choices from left-wing authors in order to cause in-fighting and division).

H E A T H E R
E
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>>81681686
I know

>>81681780
>They should've gotten the Heather actress for the new companion instead of Pearl.

On what basis? Her acting was nothing special.

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Doctor no more...

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>>81681711
>mfw

>>81681780
>They should've gotten the Heather actress for the new companion instead of Pearl
Why, anon? Please explain

>>81681860
Then what's the problem? It is pretty silly that people interpret any implication that fat people are less attractive as fat-shaming/fatphobic.

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Master no more...

>Reminder that Shit Trips is an Who fanfic anthology written by /who/ users

http://doctorwhogeneral.wikia.com/wiki/Shit_Trips:_Vol._1

It's funny how Bill's character in The Hybrid story seems on-point.

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Missy no more...

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>>81681866
We're never getting a regen effect other than "standing up, shoots gold energy" again, are we?

>>81681527
>Sure, but I think you'd still agree with me that there's some nuance and history there though?
Sure, I wouldn't have said I can see your point and I'm not 100% sure I disagree with you if I didn't see any nuance there.

>I'd expect Phil to at least be aware enough to point out the multiple perspectives here and the aspects that could be questionable, even if he himself doesn't actually find anything wrong with it, but instead all you get is him literally calling the word choice "magnificent".
Again, I think the problem here is not that Phil's "on the wrong side", but that he's being shallowly reactive—he's looking at what people on Twitter are complaining about, which is not his (self-appointed) job.

And getting back to my original point, I think Phil's moderation-seeking position is a perfectly valid one, but it's a strange position for someone to stand on a soapbox and shout about.

>>81682019
>pic
We'll get that same effect again when Nardole turns out to be the Watcher :^)

Is Based Bill the new Martha lads?

Episode was decent Moffat is best when he's not trying to be super meta desu. Didn't like token Dalek scene tho.

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Reminder that this is a thing that's airing in 4.5 hours
abc.net.au/tv/programs/whovians/
>Join the Doctor Who after party where superfans Rove McManus, Tegan Higginbotham, Adam Richard & Steven O'Donnell discuss the latest episodes, answer your questions and basically geek out about Doctor Who.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaLficIRInM

Dalek no more...

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>>81682070
Would you prefer to kiss Martha or Bill?

>>81682070
Well, she's not in love with the Doctor but he doesn't see her because she's not Rose, which was Martha's primary character trait…

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>>81682019
No, RTD has ruined regens forever

>>81682090
>Rove McManus, Tegan Higginbotham, Adam Richard & Steven O'Donnell
I've only heard of one of them and that's Rove

>>81682070
I wonder if that's all the Daleks we're going to get this season. If it's a """reboot""" of Doctor Who then it would be weird to only use the Daleks in such a small capacity.

>>81682090
Some ausfags better be ready to share this.

>>81682070
Yeah. It honestly felt like it was shoved in there just for the sake of the trailer.

>>81682019
Wait until after Moffat leaves. Maybe the new writer will try something different.

>>81681940
I just forget how thick you are sometimes, caught me by surprise

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The DOC-tor is detected

Seek

Locate

Destroy

Every other companion>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>dogshit>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Donna

>>81682146
>Chibnall
>Different

It will be a long bland run

>>81682090
Oh boy, a Doctor Who version of Talking Dead.

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>>81681314
So was there any point to making Bill a lesbian? She could've just been good friends. Also the Daleks aren't worth shit now that everybody basically sidesteps their shot.

>>81682150
It tends to catch me by surprise too.

>>81682104
jeezus

>>81682130
>>81682140
I think I heard they HAVE to have a Dalek in a season at least once but they don't want to have them be main bad guys (plus Moffat cannot write Dalek stories for shit) so it's easy just to make them meme villains for a scene and then not use them

An Unearthly Child>Rose>The Pilot>The Eleventh Hour

>>81682123
>Tegan Higginbotham
She's used to be a self-professed "nerd girl" comedian but didn't seem to know any sci-fi besides Star Wars (although she did know Star Wars; she could quote the dialogue from any scene in the original trilogy). Now she does sports writing instead.

I suspect she was picked primarily for her first name.

>>81682090
>>81682123
>Steven O'Donnel
That's Bajo, from Good Game. Which might actually mean it's not as awful as it sounds because he probably actually knows about Doctor Who.

>>81682130
Ausfag here, I have no way to record/upload it but you should be able to see it on iview with an australian proxy
It's a cheap australian thing airing on a secondary channel so I sincerely doubt it'll get put up on any torrent sites

>>81682168
Was there any point in making almost every other character straight?

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>>81682197

>>81682122
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEgen

>>81682108
>Bill adopts the Doctor as a father figure because she doesn't know her parents
>The Doctor is too busy thingken of Clara to treat Bill like a daughter

>>81682207
Is he the one from the webm where he did some love calculator thing with the female host and it said that he loved her but she didn't?

Bills 5 second scene with the photos of her mother was more emotional than anything Clara did ever

>>81682228

>Bill ends up joining the Lesbian Space Lizard's love den and taking combat tips from Strax

>>81682217
Because majority of the population is straight?

>>81682238
Yes.

Also the other guy was in an Australia sitcom about gay sci-fi fans that had a lot of specific Doctor Who references.

>>81682276
And so are majority of companions

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Nardole no more...

>>81682276
and some aren't so it's fine if some characters aren't too

>>81682197
An Unearthly Child>Spearhead from Space>The Eleventh Hour>Rose>The Pilot>>>the TV Movie
Honestly The Pilot would be about as good as Rose as the first episode of NuWho, but Rose gets extra points for actually being the first episode of NuWho.

>>81682296
Don't need to fix something that's not broken

>>81682306
Rose was pretty shit desu but based Eccleston

>>81682303
>the twist is they're all Nick Briggs doing slightly different comedy accents

>>81682306
No, An Unearthly Child>Rose>The Pilot>Spearhead from Space>the TV movie>The Eleventh Hour

>>81682322
It's not about "fixing" anything, it's about having more variety between characters.

I don't understand the Doctor's speech about TARDIS meaning life during his uni lecture. What did he mean.

Why did Bill look so shit in the trailers but was actually decent in this episode?

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>tfw Simmchad

>>81682421
too much black porn

>>81681540
I love how no one is believing that

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>>81682427
I hope he gets a decent amount of screen-time.

>>81682421
Doctor Who trailers are shit.

>>81682322
Yes, Doctor Who is a show that should never ever change anything.

Imagine how terrible it would be if they gave him companions that weren't from the present day. Why, that would be almost as ridiculous as taking away his ability to time travel! The show would never survive such a thing!

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>>81682356
>the TV movie>The Eleventh Hour

>>81682421
because out of context one liners misrepresent a character

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Its happening folks. Believe me

>>81682421
They cut the worst of the "lol they have plungers" jokes

>>81682476
So happy they didn't go with the "It's smaller on the outside" meme

>>81682505
didn't they only do that with clara and it was to point out how special and different she was?

my dick is smaller on the outside

>>81682474
What is the deal with the 11th hour? I didn't really enjoy it. Not saying I enjoyed the tv movie more

>>81682197
>>81682306
>>81682356
Why are we ranking The Pilot alongside some of the Doctor's debut episodes?

Is there a mega link yet?

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>all these homoschedules in the thread going nuclear whenever someone speaks out against Bill's rug munching
On season /who/ makes the Time War look like a joke

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>>81682558
>implying you're ever here for off-season /who/
run along, boardie

>>81682549
Because The Pilot, as the name alone signifies, was explicitly designed as a jumping-on point.

>>81682556
reddit.com/r/megalinks

>>81682558
>homoschedules
I'll have you know that I have multiple schedules for my homosexuality. It's the only way to get in enough dicks.

>>81682472
You obviously don't know what the phrase "If it ain't broke don't fix it" means

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Can any of you guess where this screen cap is from?

>>81682618
Doctor Who?

>>81682463
Every simmaster episode has been shit. I just want him to have a good story.

Doctor no more!

>>81682642
Nice meme.

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>>81682618
Google can be so cruel.

>>81682618
remember what episode anon?

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>>81682618
Doctor Who and the Old Folks Home.

>>81682549
I was ranking it alongside the other big "series relaunch" episodes.

>>81682544
Fast paced and exciting, does a good job of establishing the new Doctor and companion. The Eleventh Hour is pretty much the TV movie done right.

>>81682689
kek

>>81682642
I don't really care whether he has a good story, obviously that's preferable but he's enjoyable even when the episode is bad.

>>81682618
That Amicus movie where he becomes a vampire?

>>81682673
I know what its from, do you lot?

>>81682695
The 2009 specials really deflated my interest in Doctor Who, and made me wonder if I even liked the show anymore, but Eleventh Hour did an excellent job pulling me back.

>>81682750
You really disliked all of the specials, or just Planet of the Sorry No Chelonians Here and The Electric Skelly of Time?

>"Did you set out to wanting to write an LGBT, and, or, Bane sort of character?"

What did Christel mean by this?

https://youtu.be/npLrFm0_KJ0

>>81682783
He's a big guy, but not for you, ladies.

>mfw I'm trying to write a creepy Bill/12 fic but I'm too fatigued from 15 straight hours of BBCA Who marathon

>>81682735
no no no
we used to have an anon who we called "what episode anon"
he used to post screencaps and ask us what episode they were from
it was fun but then some drama shit happened (cannot remember in the slightest what it was about) and they vanished

No more...

...no more...

>>81682775
Water of Mars was cool, but the rest of the stories had a truckload of issues. Didn't help at all that they came out every three months or so. And Children of Earth was airing at the same year, so the edgy part of my mind went "Why the fuck aren't they doing this on Doctor Who?"

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.................no more..........

Gallifrey Falls No More was a Gallifreyan landscape painting made using stasis cube technology, depicting the fall of Arcadia, Gallifrey's second city, on the final day of the Last Great Time War. The painting was believed to have two conflicting titles: No More, or Gallifrey Falls. However, according to the curator of the National Gallery, the painting's full title was actually Gallifrey Falls No More.

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...no more...

>>81682851
S3 of SJA also happened between Waters and End of Time, and was much better than End of Time (although no Children of Earth).

'The Pilot' is the name both fandom and the BBC have been using for decades to refer to the original version of 'An Unearthly Child', before they revised and reshot it. This change will make it a huge pain in the arse for anyone who ever wants to buy the actual pilot episode on DVD or search for information about it online again. And trolling our own fans is hilarious. Notice that we've also called an episode 'Thin Ice'? Yeah, just wait for my last Christmas special, it's called 'The Runaway Bride'. Hahaha, can you believe I still have fans to fuck with?

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>>81682090
Looks like they've actually put effort into the set.

Concerning Bill and The Doctor possibly being related: Either Moffat is really heavy-handed with foreshadowing or it's a red herring. I'll go with the former.

How hype are you guys for this?
>people on GB are saying its VNA level dark
>eviscerated robots
>emoticon like creatures
>12 gives Bill a "shock of her life"
>'Is the man she's trusted so long really a hero after all? Is he even her friend?'
> "This might be where you can argue that the new approach is, for the first time, seen uncluttered by any of the old approach."
>terrible dilemma
>Moffat said the ending scene in the tardis is his favorite scene in the Series
>Moffat said in DWM that Boyce (writer of episode) was going to stick around 'for a long time, I promise you' implying the script is
>android insult in episode

Reminder of the gloriousness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3OIMqXKNds

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>>81683038
wut

>>81683003
Every time I think about SJA, I just remember how much of a fucking shame it was that Lis died and the show ended. While it was a good show on its own right, it was an appetizer during the off-season between Who episodes. The hiatuses and Moffat bumbling about wouldn't feel as painful if we still had some SJA around. Fuck, if I could go back in time and tell Lis Sladen to get chemo, I would.

>>81682837
oh, well i only started posting here a few months back. hes probably still among us anonymously though

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Doctor in distress!

Just watched the episode

Man, I missed DW. A. Fucking. Lot. Comfy episode, was creeped af by the living ship thing (the bathroom scene had me in the edge of my seat). Any, next week HUMAN COLONIES IN THE FUTURE FUCKING SHIT UP I for some reason remembered The Ark.

>tfw Movellans only appeared in a small cameo

>>81683067
>Moffat said in DWM that Boyce (writer of episode) was going to stick around 'for a long time, I promise you' implying the script is (did you meant to type "good" here?)
OH BOY OH BOY the last time he said such things was about based Mathieson

>>81683148
>OH BOY OH BOY the last time he said such things was about based Mathieson

>being this new

It's a spin on an old, very memed, pasta m8

>>81683116
I enjoyed it back in the day. Can't remember where abouts i stopped but I think it was just before that little girl came about. Skye was it? I tried to rewatch some episodes but I couldn't get into it. Pretty sad

>>81683148
>the last time he said such things was about based Mathieson
yeah uh not quite anon

>>81683176
>It's a spin on an old, very memed, pasta m8
Oh well bollocks whatever, I'm too happy about DW finally being back to be bothered about that.

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>>81683220
That writer already wrote In the Forest of the Night

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Well that episode was fucking awful.
At least we'll get ghetoo cybermen at some point.
I may skip this season anyway, though, guys. Bill did nothing for me and the premiere tried so unnecessarily hard to attract newcomers that it didn't even bother being engaging.

So, where should I start with the audios this year? Haven't taken the dive yet, but I hear they're generally good.

>>81683296
>being this new

>>81683116
>While it was a good show on its own right, it was an appetizer during the off-season between Who episodes.
Yeah, having a full season of SJA every year, and of TW some years, made it feel almost like Doctor Who was a year-round thing, not just a thing that came around for 3 months and then went away again like any other UK TV series.

Still, Lis got in 4-1/2 series, which is more than most Doctors.

>>81683180
>Can't remember where abouts i stopped but I think it was just before that little girl came about. Skye was it?
You stopped just before the end. Sky joins at the start of S5, and the show ends in the middle of S5.

>>81683101
Are you asking why someone would randomly post the A-Team intro, or do you not know what The A-Team is?

(I ask because I need to know whether to begin preparations for pitying a foo.)

>>81683180
I tried rewatching some episodes, but I just couldn't go on. I know it's just a kids show and I've never even met Lis Sladen, but seeing some scenes that were meant to be heartwarming before she died are too fucking bittersweet for me. Especially the later seasons where I go "But she looked so full of spirit and not sick at all, why the fuck did she have to die?".

>>81683296
What didn't you like about Asbill? I went in thinking I would have white knuckles all the way through. But she wasn't nearly as bad as when she appeared in that short clip beginning of last year.

>>81683333
Not sure what I said to get that reaction. I would've gotten into them earlier, but I had 26 seasons of catching up to do.

>>81683296
>the premiere tried so unnecessarily hard to attract newcomers
It wasn't unnecessary, DW's ratings are in the shitter. And it seems like it might have worked, there's a lot more buzz about the show than there was last year.

>>81683442

>he's serious

>>81682618
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>>81682670
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>>81682727
It was BTS of Colony in Space

>>81681784
Actually the chances of him returning for the next anniversary are pretty slim desu

>>81683438
She just didn't appeal to me as a character, and Moffat's been doing the whole "let's have the companion dominate the narrative" thing again. It's just gotten old at this point. The dialogue was also subpar and the plot this episode was paper-thin. Has all the makings of a tired showrunner.

>>81683296
DocOho wrote something to introduce people to the audios.
docohobigfinish.blogspot co.uk/2012/02/big-finish-introduction.html

>>81683359
NuWho was just when I was getting into British TV as a whole, so I was a little pissed that I had to wait nine months for a new season compared to three for American shows. Torchwood and SJA helped ease that wait for me, and probably a lot of other Americunts as well.

>>81683454
Yes, I'd imagine /who/ would know a good starting point for the many many audio dramas out there. It's almost overwhelming.

>>81682019
I'm glad they've standardized it, it gives the scene an energy that wasn't there by the Doctor just lying on the floor and having the face merge quietly with the new guy.

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>>81683510
Much obliged, anon. Can't wait.

I enjoyed it until halfway into Matt Smith's series then it just became shit. Moffat is a terrible writer who caters to the fanbase instead of the original theme and story set by the other writers. Even when he does stick to his own story (Sherlock) after a few series he ends up repeating shit and recycling overused storylines like some autistic OCD kid.

David Tennant was an amazing doctor, not least because of Russell T. Davies writing. In fact, Broadchurch is better than this overhyped shill TV program. Matt Smith also had a great spark, and under a better writer could have really shone.

>>81683576
No one is going to argue that this show is actually good. We all know it's bad.

>>81683400
I don't know what the A-team is.

>>81683515

>he's not even trolling

Rate my dialogue:

>You can be eternity. Indomitable! Consider than-- no one course of one else the times, very day for Barbara and forever. When that timeline, and rage. I haven't every morning. If you remembered calm, that flesh is heir currents turn of the night, and the waves, today it's a human. I've always going. Believe. I walk in eternal. Sad reality, a terrible, wonderful universe. Looking down time. You've spent a magic box and the Earth. It's alright. They're all stories. You hold on. Sorry, there the skin of the univers dread of them wheel it. We're going what we believe in. This is a president, and creation of Stertorous. I'm a Time Lords. I am not with a box and the sky is beautiful. They're old man. I'm definitely not a bad man. End of the proud man who stole it? Well, I borrowed it. We're fall and dreams, that sky. Oh, that I am not a ball of the Shining into the last Great decision. I firmly believe me, I must be no regrets, no traveller remained. Not on my watched as fortunity. I'm definitely not running, all of time, that's the galaxies below, sworn never have lies; night the light, and go. Stars and space. Even they were are somethings. Secrets that's wrong with this more; and, but the pale cast of the same basic shape: the law's dead. In you'll find of the day to be seen the light, and how thing and there else will ever have seen, more; and complicated, and there silver. Passing Speeches, and tumbling to be seen the consience of the kind out of the day this moment, until nothing at a thousand you. Do you, guarded you do what is for who you have spent and planet! The old buffer like a human. I've know not run the light, and how you are so alert, it won't. One day, soon, maybe, you'll dream of the contumely, impossible! Consider than can do with this mortal coil, must never understand. I watched over you, tended to you could we? After and I can't... I can't...

>>81683488
...why

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>>81683576
>Even when he does stick to his own story (Sherlock) after a few series he ends up repeating shit and recycling overused storylines like some autistic OCD kid.

>Sherlock season 3 finale
>Sherlock agrees to meet with Mary as long as John doesn't get involved
>turns out John walks in anyway and heard everything, according to plan.

>Sherlock season 4 finale
>Sherlock agrees to meet with Mary as long as John doesn't get involved
>turns out John walks in anyway and heard everything, according to plan.

It was the most blatant example I could remember. The entire new season of Sherlock was awful barring pic related. I don't think this based motherfucker can do anything wrong.

>>81683408
I rewatched a bunch of it recently. Once you get past the sad, it really is a good show.

I was struck by how far out of their way they went to tie in with the Big Finish SJS audios. Even if Big Finish weren't such a niche market in the first place, how much of the SJA target audience was going to remember something made for an adult audience five years earlier?

>>81683663
Yeah, Colin Baker's a fat, unhealthy fuck and he's up to 71 years.

>>81683673
The half hour of episode 3 where they're in the deadly saw-style prison game was kino, anon

>>81683684
>I was struck by how far out of their way they went to tie in with the Big Finish SJS audios.

How so

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>>81683633
>pitying intensifies

>>81683510
Ha, most shows aren't even on every year. 6 episodes of Blackadder, then 2 years before you hear there might be a followup series next year…

>>81683638
Alright clearly I upset you somehow. Was it because of my bad first impression of series 10? Don't get me wrong, I wish it the best, and we're both well within our respective rights to have differing opinions of it. That said it's becoming very clear that Moffat's wellspring has dried up. Here's hoping Chibnall might pick up the slack next year.

Shame about Capaldi's departure as well. I've heard he wanted to stay longer.

>>81683687
So he won't return for fear of Colin eating him?

>>81683296
I recommend to pick holes that you like and fill them. You can find out what 6 was up to after Trial and before Time and the Rani. You can continue with 8. Etc. Otherwise, I would just recomend the audios as something to do when you're trying to fall asleep or when you are in transit.

This is useful for the hole filling
http://www.eyespider.org.uk/drwho/cb/list.html

Otherwise, the main range and any general set of audios can be enjoyed in order of release as that's how they're supposed to be listened to. Honestly, I would just recommend listening to all of the GOAT stories and then you can move on when you've finally finished that. There's too much audio honestly.

>>81683705
And the payoff fell right on its face. Very under-par season overall, and nothing compared to the first two.

>>81683705
No, it was a blatant ploy to mind-fuck the audience. The fact that Moriarty is dead immediately meant something stupid was going on.

>>81683734

>he's still going

>>81683765
The saw game started after the moriarty tease, anon

>>81683687
>>81683663

Well when is the next multidoctor special? If we don't have one in 2023 then that means 2033 or even 2038. Capaldi would be almost 80, it would be surprising if he's still able to play the part then

>>81683760
>There's too much audio honestly.
Exactly what I thought when I saw the list. It was like starting the series from the first episode all over again. Not that I'm complaining.

>>81683784
What are you even trying to argue at this point?

>>81683793

Why would that be surprising?

>>81683840

>he hasn't stopped

>>81683734
>it's becoming very clear that Moffat's wellspring has dried up.

>he says as he makes zero attempt whatsoever to explain why he considers this to be the case

>>81683814
I know /who/ has quite a lot of things to say about Briggs, but it's commendable how he can release all these audios on a regular schedule without having a mental breakdown and strangling people on his podcast.

>>81683333
>>81683454
>>81683638
>>81683784
>>81683877
This went from being slightly funny to seeming stupid and annoying, but then came around to being funnier than it was to start with. Truly epic.

>>81683881
He's been recycling ideas and character arcs. His "I'm the girl who met the Doctor, this is my story" approach has been present as far back as The Girl in the Fireplace and Blink.
It would be fine but they're almost always fundamentally similar characters.

There's also the fact that Moffat has a bad habit of forgetting how characters he's created work, and he seems to generally have a hard time juggling large season-wide arcs in general. He's great with small-scale standalone episodes, though. Heaven Sent and Listen were both fantastic.

That said, showrunners, being human get tired and start to run out of ideas. It happens. It's nothing to even be ashamed of; Moffat's had a nice long run, even longer than average. The time has come to move on, though, and this first episode of the series hasn't given me much optimism.

>let's create a character whose trait is being a lesbian

Nice work, Moffat.

>>81684002
>plucky female who met the doctor #863

Bravo, Steve.

>>81683706
K9 breaking down and Aunt Lavinia dying and leaving her the house were both straight from SJS.

Meanwhile, there's flashback stuff to the 80s and 90s, but they almost always avoid 2002-6, which is the only way they could avoid contradicting the audio series (short of actually continuing it and resolving its cliffhangers).

And the ambiguous way they talked about her past relationships (or lack thereof). School Reunion implies pretty strongly that she never even looked at a man because she knew they'd never compare to the Doctor, but SJA sounds a lot more like she looked but never found anyone, which fits a lot better with SJS (and the BBC novels, but the Virgin novels are still impossible to reconcile).

There's also a couple offhand mentions of someone named James from her past with no explanation of who he is, which is kind of weird, but I'm pretty sure it was Phil and Gareth giving a shoutout to James Stevens from Who Killed Kennedy, who gets mentioned a few times as her original mentor in SJS S2 (which was written by the same guy who wrote that novel).

>>81683998

>he's actually serious

>>81683998
>There's also the fact that Moffat has a bad habit of forgetting how characters he's created work, and he seems to generally have a hard time juggling large season-wide arcs in general.
This is your reasoning as to why you've written off S10 at the very first episode?

>>81684048
That's really cool. Thanks for explaining.

>>81683998
Legitimately cannot tell if this is trolling or not. One of the dumbest things I've ever read on here.

>>81683998
>being this new

>>81684062
If you read the post you'd know my reasoning was because of the "look how special this new companion is" approach.

You'd also know that my opinion of this episode did not mark a good start. The preview also seemed underwhelming aside from the ghetto cybermen.

So yes, I'm writing off this season until I hear some good news.

>>81683998
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>81684130
>he's not trolling

Haven't been here since series 8 ending. I'd just like to say I'm sorry for Capaldi. He deserved better. His acting is the only thing that'll keep me watching this series this time. Thank god Moffat is leaving. He should've left after the 50th special.

>>81683296
>I may skip the season anyway

See you next week

>>81684171
How would Chibnall have made things any better?

>>81684130
Did we watch the same episode? They keep on trying to emphasize how normal and non-special bill was.

>>81684171
>he's serious

>>81684171
Shame that Capaldi's leaving with Moffat, too. Not that Chibnall would ever have done him justice either, but it's a shame he'll never have the chance.

You guys could be watching Japan's wacky doctor show instead.

https://youtu.be/mxRSCSP5268

>>81684202
This guy's fucking triggered.

>>81684183
I'll be here trying to spark discussion about Big Finish, if you'd like to chat. But no, I'll leave the series 10 discussion to those who appreciate it (who are apparently easily triggered from what I've seen).

>>81684002

>Article release on BBC website about how she's the first gay sidekick
>"it's not a big deal, it's only mentioned and it's just a tiny part of her character "
>her being a lesbo is literally the entire focus of the 1st episode

>>81684190
They definitely kept emphasizing Bill, alright. The camera was on her practically at all times.

Been like that since Capaldi got in. It's like they think he has no screen appeal.

>>81684267
Just wait till she gets a real girlfriend. This was the subtle episode, I guarantee it.

>Physics, poetry, same thing!
>Why?
>Because of the rhymes.

BRAVO LUCAS

shit season 2/10 fuck moffat

>>81684211
Why do all of Japan's commercials have video game menus?

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>didn't cast this cutie as the companion

DROPPED

>>81684048
>>81684069
I wonder if anyone's bought those audios recently? I'm sure they sold some copies after Lis's death, but since then?

I only got the first few episodes. I remember it felt like Uncle Terry wanted to write a sequel to Interference, while all the novel writers wanted to write a sequel to K9 and Company, which was kind of funny. But they should have just called not-Sam Sam, because she was still every bit as annoying as Sam in the novels.

>>81684310
>Are we in the future?
>No, we're in the past.
>It looks like the future.

Truly Shakespearean.

RATINGS FUCKING WHEN

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Hyped for the next GOAT comfy bald Doctor

>>81684411
They're in. 30.16m

/who/ was better last night.

Paul McGann
Hattie Morahan
and
Nicola Walker
in
Doctor Who
Doom Coalition 1:
The Satanic Mill
by Edward Collier

>>81684270
>The camera was on her practically at all times
you mean because she's the audience surrogate and the explicit purpose of the episode was to act as a jumping point for new viewers who aren't familiar with the show or the doctor?
you're right anon doctor who really is ruined because of that

>>81684446
Season premiere. Moffat defense force and anti-Moffat swat teams are in full force for the next several weeks.

>>81684270
It was her introduction you fucking idiot. I guarantee you next week it's Capaldi galore. Bill will just be there to save the day because 12 misunderstood something like Amy did in TBB.

>>81684469
Better jumping points have been written. By Moffat. There's no excuse for shit-tier writing.

>>81684502
Such as? We are never EVER going back to Series 5-tier episodes so let it go this instant.

>>81684267
That's like saying that the whole 10/Rose storyline is about the Doctor being straight but still

>>81684502
Except this episode is a significantly better jumping point than eleventh hour because it requires no knowledge of the events that immediately proceeded it (ie the doctor just regenerated (also regeneration as a concept) and is crashing to earth)

>>81684211
> Not watching superior 70's tokusatsu

https://youtu.be/eak26ohx1Y8

I know in Japan, there are a handful of Britboos who think Doctor Who is cool. I wonder how their reactions to episodes contrast to ours.

>>81684520
>series 5-tier
>implying S5 fairytail whimsyshit is some kind of gold standard for what doctor who should be

The Eleventh Hour > The Pilot > Partners in Crime > Bells of Saint John > Smith and Jones > Rose

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>>81684493
>Bill will just be there to save the day

C-capaldi galore alright.

>>81684545
fuck offerino, Rose is a perfectly funcitonal entry point and is easily better than most of those on that list

>>81684542
The majority of /who/ is nuwho plebs right now. Welcome to the on-season.

>>81684547
>40 minutes of Capaldi
>1 minute of Bill saving the day
THERE WASN'T ENOUGH CAPALDI REEEEEEEEEEEEE

Stuttering retard.

>>81684545
If the whole thing didn't feel like I Met the Doctor: A Little Golden Book, I'd agree. The Pilot was shit.

>>81684545
I think if you introduce Doctor Who to somebody through Smith and Jones, they're gonna think the show is retarded. Not that they're wrong, but rhino police officers transporting a hospital to the moon all to nab an old lady vampire is too much for normies to handle

>>81684570
But it was okay. Nothing special but I can't watch it again. It aged like milk, like Billie Piper actually. Seriously, this was good in 2005 but now there are new, better standards.

>>81684591
But this has always been how companion introductions were done except for Amy and arguably Clara.

>>81684575
>40 minutes of Capaldi being mad scientist comic relief
>1 minute of Bill using her street smarts to beat an 9 million year old godlike being that's probably a bigot

No thanks.

>>81684609
companion introductions are not automatically entrance points

>>81684609
Exactly why I liked Amy and Clara.

>>81684545
Always really liked Smith and Jones tbqh, Eleventh Hour pretty much just ripped it off anyway. Partners in Crime should be lower despite the fact that Donna is based. The Pilot wasn't nearly that good. Honestly don't even remember what happens in Bells of Saint John except a motorbike and something to do with Wi-Fi I think? I know I thought it was pretty shit at the time, so whatever. Rose was decent, don't know how it deserves last.

>>81684617
you have a very funny idea of comic relief

>>81684628
And even if they were, this was easily one of the weaker entrance points in nuwho.

>>81684600
Kek yeah that sounds retarded but apart from the rhino men I think it's a nice story that makes sense. Production values and campiness just made it kinda bad.

>>81684628
What does that have to do with what I said?

>>81684640
Partners in Crime was funny. All of these episodes are solid, but some are better than others. Rose isn't last because it's outright shit. It just comes down to preference.

>>81684644
>Look at how socially inept I am!
>I have a guitar! How fun!
>I'll bet you can't beat my... spoon!

They've reduced the potentially best Doctor in years to Inspector Gadget. Rarely do we get to see him actually shine, and it's almost always when he's not interacting with people.

>>81684658
how?
>literally zero required knowledge
>everything outlined
>only thing that needs inferring is nardole is the doctor's assistant
>introduces the doctor

>>81684639
And you don't like Bill? Come on we've only seen one episode. Clara was insufferable in 7B, Bill had more character development in a single episode than she did in 7B.

>>81684681
I disagree

>>81684685
And Moffat failed to blend a decent or even creative plot into it. He's done that before, and he fucked it up this time. Hell, Rose and its mannequin monsters did a more entertaining job of doing what the Pilot did.

Style over substance is a bad thing, but removing style entirely and turning your episode into a strict tool isn't any better. Shows lazy writing as well. Very paint-by-numbers episode, and I hope Moffat doesn't make a habit of it this season.

>>81684681
Did you only watch the first five minutes of the episode and then clock out or something?

>>81684681
How can you be so wrong?

>>81684481
The fact that people unironically defend that hack astounds me.

>>81684763
Not gonna lie I thought it felt barebones but that's because I'm used to Moffat's convoluted stories. This was the first time he was so straightforward and it felt a bit strange, but it was refreshing and I liked it. Now, I hope he goes back to his old ways for his next episodes.

>>81684696
>Come on we've only seen one episode

When did first impressions magically not make a shit anymore?

>>81684811

All I'll say is The Pilot would've worked better if a happy medium was struck between this barebones episode and one of his wilder stories. He turned the dial too far down.

>>81684763
Oh, you're trolling.

>>81684811
This is a good post.
>>81684862
This is shitposting.

Know the difference.

>>81684875
HAPPY FOURTEENTH BIRTHDAY

>>81684906
This is a good post.
>>81684875
This is shitposting.

Know the difference.

So, how possible is it to separate /oldwho/ and /newwho/ on /tv/?

I want to talk about fucking William Hartnell, and it's hard as fuck with all these faggots fighting over whether or not Moffat's piss is made of butterscotch.

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The Pilot is already higher on the iplayer chart than Class ever got.

>>81684977
Who the fuck actually uses iplayer?

>>81684977
>a show that's been going for 12 years is higher than a online-only show in its first series

Gee wiz how amazing

>>81684970
What about Hartnell do you want to talk about?

>>81684977
Thats not exactly hard to do.

>>81684977
>the show without gay sex gets higher ratings
fucking homophones

So, how possible is it to separate /bbv/ and /newwho/ on /tv/?

I want to talk about fucking Zygon: When Being You Just Isn't Enough, and it's hard as fuck with all these faggots fighting over whether or not Moffat's shit is made out of Gorgonzola.

>>81685021
That time he accidentally gave Caligula the idea to burn Rome to the ground was pretty funny.

>>81684811
I second this.

>>81685071
Master, please.

So, how possible is it to separate /moffat/ and /who/ on /tv/?

I want to talk about fucking Steven Moffat's piss, and it's hard as fuck with all these faggots fighting over whether or not William Hartnell is made of sandstone.

4.7m overnight.

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>>81685119
>>81685071
I loved when the Master and the War Doctor bonded over Roman fornication.

>>81685133
0.12m rise from The Magician's Apprentice.

>>81685133
wew what isn't that horrible for UK standards? Even after the whole different approach and actual marketing push?

>>81685227
It's bad for Doctor Who but pretty much around what the usual UK drama would get.

>>81681314
What's the skinny on the new episode?

Any references to old series?

How was Bill?

Any hints or beginnings of season wide arcs?

>>81685227

Not too bad, final ratings will be around 7 mil

Nardole is Omega
Nardole created the Cybermen
Nardole is the 13th Doctor
Nardole is Davros rejuvenated
Nardole invented the TARDIS
Nardole is the Hybrid
Nardole is Rassilon

>>81685133
Well that's it boys, show's over.

OZZIE LOVES THE SQUADIE

>>81685270
>season wide arc
There's something in the basement
12's been at the university for over 50 years, we don't know why he's had to keep himself grounded

>>81685307
if they want to get a brown girl at least get one thats pleasing to look at, she's so terribly ugly

>>81685270
-Don't know what a skinny is?

-Yes quite a few, don't really see how this ep can be called a jumping on point it had tonnes of continuity to Classic and nuwho

-She was actually alright, not amazing but a really solid intro. Think Martha in Smith and Jones, lots of potential (hopefully not wasted like Martha though)

-A couple, firstly The Vault is an obvious arc (The Doctor keeping something in the basement); then there's Bill's relationship with Heather that might get revisited; and why The Doctor decided to come to the university in the first place

>>81685350
rude

>>81685350
I think it's actually refreshing to have a companion that's not a top Qt/supermodel again like Donna or Rose. Thought I agree that if they wanted to relaunch the show to normies they should have casted someone less hideous

>>81685133
These may not be the real ratings. Everyone on GB is unsure.

>>81685355
The skinny, aka the details, how the episode went, ect.

Any allusions to what might be in the Vault? Maybe his next regeneration, or The Master?

>>81685410
all we know is that 12's protective of whatever's in there. When the water monster went down to the basement, he wanted to know if it was after the vault or just wanted to kill them

Can I stream the episode anywhere? Doesn't have to be amazing 4k quality just preferably somewhere not riddled with adware.

>>81685446
Dailymotion

>>81685133
Actual rating - 4.64m
C A N C E L L E D

>>81685446
If you don't know how to protect yourself against adware, there are two basic options:

>Dailymotion. Don't use the search engine on the site; just google "dailymotion doctor who the pilot". Generally not the first place it gets uploaded, but it should be there by now, and it's a harmless site.

>Use a front-end program, like the Exodus add-on for Kodi, to watch stuff on the real streaming sites without having to know where they are or deal with all the cruft.

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>>81685373
>>81685403
I don't mind them casting someone that looks normal, but this girl is just so revolting to look at, ugly to the 2nd yower, she's in dire need of plastic surgery - both her nose and mouth/chin area, she needs to go to Korea or California to get it done, ratings will go up the roof even if the doctor who story is mediocre

Rip doctor who & trollface companion 2017

>>81685053
They could show 12 and Nardole butt fucking for 45 minutes and the ratings would still be higher than Class's.

>More people watched Mrs Brown's Boys than Doctor Who yesterday
Why are britbongs such plebs?

>>81685516
Even if you adjust for the online viewers meme, he's doing about on par with or less than Colin was with a lower population

>>81685133

Thank God Moffat and Capaldi are leaving this season.

Viewers know that Doctor Who isn't worth watching with those two.

>Doctor Who is getting cancelled after Series 10
>Chibnall will NEVER ruin it
>wilderness years with Capaldi, Bill and Nardole

GET FUCKING HYPE

>>81685133

Who/what do we blame this time?

>>81685762
RTD. His minisode was meant to come out at 3pm.

Reminder it once fell to 3.7 because of the rugby cup last year. Actually twice even.

>>81685784
But what was it up against today? Mrs brown's boys?
Where did it rank overall? What did better than it?

>>81685808
BBC1
Pointless celebrities... 4.34 27.1
Doctor who... 4.64 24.8
Casualty... 3.48 17.0
BBC news... 3.02 14.9
All round to Mrs browns... 4.74 26.6

ITV Inc +1
Operation. Magic... 1.69 11.5
Take Me Out... 3.10 17.4
Britain's Got Talent... 8.65 42.4
* peak.. 9.66 47.5 at 9pm
The Expandables... 1.88 10.9

>>81685808

At the same time Doctor Who was on:

BBC Two: Snooker/Grand Tours of Scotland
ITV: Take Me Out/Britain's Got Talent
Channel 4: The Book Thief
5: NCIS: Los Angeles

>>81685762
The BBC for being unable to appeal to normal people.

>>81685857
how do I read this? What's the second number?
Third of the night isn't too bad right? even Britain's Got Talent had smaller numbers that doctor who used to at its peak, I don't think they're just damage controlling when they say viewing behaviours have changed

>>81685762
The fact that fewer than 1 in 7 people watch non-timeshifted TV, and yet people still pretend these ratings mean anything.

For anyone except obsessed fans or old people who don't know how to work a DVR or iPlayer, what reason is there for anyone to watch anything live? (Except competition shows where viewers can vote or the like.)

I'm in the middle of series 6 and its pretty awkward as to how much gay pandering shit is in the show for no reason. It wouldn't be a big deal but it's very nudge nudge dude gay people. Does moffat stop this? At least with rtd, it was a bit less out of touch.

Hey anons :)

Could you please rank the Doom Coalitions? Like 3>1>2>4 or whatever. Whatever your opinion is.

Thanks :)

>>81685911
>even Britain's Got Talent had smaller numbers that doctor who used to at its peak
Not quite, unless you're counting specials rather than sustained ratings.

S1 had the highest overnights ever for NuWho, and it averaged only 7.3M.

The numbers you've seen closer to 9M (in S4) are final, not overnights—they include 7-day time-shifted views and iPlayer views.

>>81685938
the paternosters are very blatant 'dude gay lmao' and never get better
they haven't been seen since the first episode of S8 though
gay people are still around - the newest companion is gay and it was relevant to the plot but they were pretty tactful about it imo

>>81686025
For reference, S7 averaged 7.5M finals, but only 5.5M overnights. And with L+7 views increasing about 10%/year and iPlayer views more like 50%/year, you can expect the gap to be a lot wider this year.

>>81686018

3 > 4 > 1 > 2

The plot actually starts moving in DC3 and 4 which puts 1 & 2 to shame. The overarching 'Doom Coalition' plot should have started a lot earlier and makes the earlier stuff, especially DC1 feel like filler.

>>81686060
I've only listened to DC1. Do they ever actually explore the Eleven's mental condition in depth?

>>81686085

In DC1, I thought The Eleven was a pretty mediocre villain. He gets upstaged by The Sonomancer in DC2. He gets a lot more backstory in DC3 and in DC4 he's actually really threatening and a great villain that I hope we'll see again.

In short: Yes, in DC3 and 4.

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>>81685133
>>81685174
>>81685227
>>81685265
>>81685293
>>81685300
4.64m overnight is pretty good actually. Final figure will be around 7.5m. Also figures will no doubt get higher when Simm's Master re-appears, and heading towards the finale and the regeneration.

As a quick easy comparison:

Tennant's run averaged final viewing figures of 7.77m. Matt Smith 7.55m. Capaldi is averaging 7.1m so far.

>>81686132
Yeah DC1 and DC2 and 3/4 of DC3 was pretty disappointing but DC4 was pretty good.

>>81686206
Is this a shop or did this really happen? What's the story, if so?

>>81685307
I remember this selfie pic from ages ago, have they turned it into a promo now?

Or was the one I'm thinking of with Clara for S8?

>>81686350
Eh?

>>81686350
It's from the trailer. No idea what's going to happen. People are saying it's a fake-out but I think it looks too far for that. I'm almost expecting Capaldi to actually regenerate into somebody else, just for an episode, before some sort of reset button is hit on the whole world.

>>81686390
I didn't see the episode, what is this pic of?

>>81686350
It's from the trailer at the end of the pilot silly
we already know 12's regeneration isn't going to be a normal one, he's going to hold it back or something

>>81686423

It's from the Coming Soon... trailer.

So we don't know what causes it, or if that is even The Doctor.

Nick Briggs:

The issue of skewing opportunity to favour unrepresented groups in any creative field is a really difficult one. We have an ongoing discussion about this in Big Finish circles. We are certainly very keen for there to be more female writers, for example. But we are a small company with tough deadlines, so actually managing to get scripts from anyone in the first place has to be the major concern. That said, I’m very mindful of this issue and the justified strength of feeling from people who feel under-represented, so I am certainly making efforts to change things. I think there’s a very valid argument that like prefers like, so I think there’s some truth in the fact that I may unconsciously be drawn towards people who are like me - white, male, etc. That’s certainly not a conscious choice of mine. So I hope that the more I consider this issue, the more capable I will be of doing something more positive about it. But, as I say, because time is always short and deadlines are always tight, my major concern is just getting the best stuff out there. I don’t ever want to be in a situation where I would have to put a brilliant idea or script to one side because the sex or race of the writer didn’t meet certain criteria.

>>81686475

I'd take anyone if it meant we didn't get another Dalek Invasion of Earth rip-off script from Briggs.

WHOA JOHN SIMM IN THE TRAILER TOO HOLY SHIT

I wonder where in his timeline this story is going to take place? It'll have to be after he disappeared with Rassilon in The End of Time but before he regenerates into Missy, right?

>>81686475
>I think there’s a very valid argument that like prefers like, so I think there’s some truth in the fact that I may unconsciously be drawn towards people who are like me - white, male, etc

lmao why did nick briggs just out himself as a racist sexist bigot

>>81686536
It doesn't have to be. The Doctor has been scooped up from right in the middle of his timeline to meet future Doctors before, so the Master could just as easily.

But it does seem like the most obvious choice. We don't know what the Master was doing after he got sent back into the timelock, while we have a pretty good idea of what he was doing while, say, he was setting up his Saxon persona. Also, taking him from later in his incarnation is a great explanation for why the actor looks older.

>>81686475
>But we are a small company with tough deadlines, so actually managing to get scripts from anyone in the first place has to be the major concern
Meanwhile one of their most prolific writers was discovered from a competition and they'd have dozens, or even hundreds, more fans who are gagging at the opportunity to write for them.

The rest of the post is kinda mature of him to say though.

>>81686545
Are you really that stupid, or just trolling?

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>>81686612
Not to mention how many of their other writers are either holdovers from previous ranges with open submissions (the novels, and the semi-pro audio and video stuff), or people brought in as personal contacts of such holdovers.

Am I the only one who thought it was a great episode ?
I almost enjoyed it as much as the Eleventh Hour.

>>81686656
I thought it was great and far better than The Eleventh Hour

New thread when?

>>81686655
Maybe it's because many of those writers have experience in churning out Doctor Who work at a quick pace, and it's hard to find up and coming writers who will dedicate that amount of time to a tie-in work while keeping up to that schedule.

Briggs could hire a new writer every now and then though.

>>81686631
That was almost certainly an inside joke at Nick Briggs' expense.

When asked what his favourite Dalek line from the classic series was, Briggs said "Seek! Locate! Destroy!" from Destiny. But the actual line in Destiny is "Seek! Locate! Exterminate!", while "Seek-Locate-Destroy" is the name of a Blake's 7 episode.

And then Moffat lets him do "Seek! Locate! Destroy!" in a scene set in the middle of the Dalek-Movellan War from Destiny.

I'll get new fred

>>81682589
No it isn't

>>81686717
>That was almost certainly an inside joke at Nick Briggs' expense.
That came out wrong. I mean "expense" in a friendly way, with the main purpose being to entertain Nick Briggs, not to belittle him.

>>81686744
Moffat has literally stated it to be as such constantly in the press.

>>81686759
I getcha

Next speculation >>81686770

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>>81686536
They probably got him back so they can show him regenerating into the Michelle Gomez Master, to solidify it.

What Moffat doesn't understand is that its really because he keeps...
>Missy

If she is the Master, she should still be referred to as the Master.

>>81686655
Honestly drives me crazy how ignorant of this they seem to be. I understand why a company wouldn't want to have to deal with unsolicited scripts, but don't then turn around and say "oh it's so hard to even get anything written". Especially when, as you point out, the entire EU's foundation is essentially open submissions. And they have recent evidence that it works well for their company, in Matt Fitton.

I wonder if they'll even bother doing the memorial comp this year.

>>81686875
They've obviously gotten themselves into a bind in that everyone at Big Finish who knows anything about scripts is so busy writing scripts (and, in many cases, also producing and/or directing) that they don't have time to handle submissions, much less work with new writers.

So they need some kind of filter between the slush pile and the overworked people. If they can't afford to do that the professional way, maybe do what the novels did: hire a fan to be a "freelance editor", who basically gets next to nothing, but with a bonus for each script he passes up that actually gets made.

>>81687052
Yeah, that makes sense. I do know that going through slush piles would be a hassle and fairly labour-extensive. Obviously they wouldn't be able to keep submissions open all the time, but maybe a couple of weeks every few months. The memorial thing seemed like a good testing grounds. Because it's only for a Short Trip so the submissions aren't as long, and you can then ask the winner(s) to do a full-submission and see if you want to give them a contract. I wonder if they even considered doing that with the winner

I think it just bothers me in particular because I'd dive at the chance to work for BF (I did a submission for the short trips last year, and will submit again if they continue it this year) and I feel like discovering new writers is such a positive thing the EU can do.

>>81687198
Wow, you're cross-posting my posts into the old thread too. You're like the string holding the tin cans together for me and this anon.

>>81687182
They really needed to work this out before they got this big. Software companies that don't plan out how they're going to deal with growth in advance either don't get investors, or get their upper management replaced by the investors, but in most other industries nobody thinks that way so startups grow until they're too unwieldy for their original structure and then they just collapse.

Also, ideally they should have done it before NuWho, when nobody was thinking of Big Finish as "the EU" in the first place. Part of the reason they got so many up-and-coming TV writers and novelists writing for Virgin and early BF was that it was "real Doctor Who", and even for writers who had a hard time believing that, it was at least as real as Doctor Who was ever going to get again