What is the best studio ghibli film?

>>81676440
ur mum m8

>>81676440
1. My Neighbor Totoro
2. Princess Mononoke
3. Porco Rosso

>>81676478
nope
>Kikis Delivery Service
>power gap
>rest

>>81676478
porko rosso is the patrician choice and you know it

>>81676503
Ugh another pie from my grandma

Castle in the Sky > Porco Rosso > Kiki's Delivery Service > Totoro > Nausicca > the rest

haven't seen mononoke lol

>>81676440
Does Nausicaa count? That's #1.

Castle in the Sky #2
Porco & Howl tied at #3

>>81676440
Whisper of the Heart

>>81676440
Nausicaa

Castle in the Sky
Porco Rosso
Princess Mononoke
Totoro/Kiki's Delivery service
Spirited away/Howl's Moving Castle

Haven't seen Nausicca or the others which is basically sacrilege but I'll get on it I swear

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>>81676440
1. Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind
2. Laputa: Castle in the Sky
3. Princess Mononoke
4. Spirited Away
5. Howl's Moving Castle

There was a theater nearby that was playing a different ghibli movie every weekend for awhile. Managed to see Castle in the Sky, Spirited Away and Porco Rosso. It was a very comfy period.

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>>81676440

Porco rosso.

>>81676440
nausicaa valley of the wind

>>81678072
Shove Porco in 3rd and I can agree with you, namefag

Whisper of the heart
Only yesterday
Laputa
Porco Rosso

Lit/ here, the film Nausicaa made a butchered mockery of the book Nausicaa and you retards lap it up like it was George Lucas's semen.

>>81676440
Why is The Wind Rises so underrated? It's his best film alongside My Neighbor Totoro, Princess Mononoke and Spirited Away.

>>81678314
>book

You mean the Odyssey?

>>81676440
Most Fun: Porco Rosso
Best: Nausicaa

>>81676440
Naruto.

The older it is the better it is.
Also that new movie looks like hot garbage.
Hate that ponyo style of flowy animation, those quick bitey swipes of movement are way better.

>>81676440
Totoro. Everything else is pretty much garbage.

>>81676440

1. Princess Mononoke
2. The Wind Rises
3. Spirited Away

>rest

>>81679143
I legitimately take points away from Mononoke for its english dub. I wouldn't do so if it wasn't such a high profile dub but it ended up being like the worst dub in history and hyped to shit.
>Billy Bob Thornton

>>81679173
only terrible part was that head stealing guys voice actor.

>>81679173

Why watch dubs? It literally makes the movies 10x worse...

>>81679235
Because you need to see whats happening on screen.

>>81679235
In practice yes dubs are fucking awful 99.9% of the time but in theory a perfect dub CAN exist and CAN improve it. The big 90s anime boom made hollywood types think that big name actors could voice act and they marketed the fuck out of the ENGLISH version. It was released in english then it should stand in english.

>>81679200
>Only terrible part
>Claire Danes
>Minnie Driver
>Gillian Anderson
Keith David is an amazing voice actor so no hate on him obviously but there were TONS of just... worst in history non-VAs.
There have been dubs in the past which were very good, none of them had hollywood types.

>>81679405

I would listen to Keith David read a phone book and be enthralled.

>>81676440
Kiki's Delivery Services.

Spirited away is my favorite but thats just because I'd watch that movie in the car anytime i went on a big car ride to my grandmas

>>81679173
Ditto this. I watched the movie by by self subbed, liked it so much I had to show it to my friend the next day. I put on the dub because he was pretty casual, but I had to shut it down and switch to the sub, Billy Bob fucking destroyed me. I just could not deal.

Castle in the Sky

>>81676440

la tortue rouge

>>81676882
This

1. Nausicaa
2. Spirited away
3. Kaguya
4. Kiki
5. Totoro

>>81679534
He trained as a stage actor and probably had an orgy with Kurt Russel.

>>81676440
id say princess mononoke
it was the first I saw, and Ive seen it the most, but I think ive seen all of them
I liked everything about it except the super corny emo bits like where she chews for him, but it has the least of those out of all the movies
all miyazaki films have the best dynamics Ive ever seen in any films, but mononoke really takes the cake
sometimes i put it on just to watch the mounted archery scenes

but they're all good

Takahata's films are so much more interesting than Miyazaki's. Miyazaki's characters don't feel like human beings at all, i don't get why people idolise him so much. Grave of the fireflies, only yesterday, Kaguya hime... all such great films and very different in tone.

Miyazaki just gets boring when he tries to do serious stuff, like up on poppy hill and the wind rises.

>>81681364
Miyazaki's characters feel like fairy tale chars without hitting mary sue levels. Even shit like Porco Rosso is way larger than life.

>>81681512
but there's no emotion, i can't empathise with them at all. Even still like whisper of the heart is just kind of boring and cringey, rather than touching or whatever it was meant to be.

it's spirited away you fucking autists this isnt hard

>>81681574
Really, that's not something I've noticed. Some of the character motivations are kind of weird but I can understand them in the context of their various films.
>ywn undertake a manly quest to stop corrupted spirits before you die from its demon curse

>>81681645
But spirited away is trash

>>81676440
Elder God Tier:
Spirited Away
The Tale of the Princess Kaguya

God Tier:
Kiki's Delivery Service
Pom Poko
Porco Rosso
Laputa: Castle in the Sky
The Castle of Cagliostro

Great Tier:
When Marnie Was There
Grave of the Fireflies
Princess Mononoke
The Cat Returns
Only Yesterday
Arrietty
From Up on Poppy Hill

Good Tier:
Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind
Howl's Moving Castle
My Neighbour Totoro
Ocean Waves
The Wind Rises
Whisper of the Heart (this would definitely place higher if I was more romantically inclined, but since I'm not, I can't place it higher than this)
Panda Go Panda

OK tier:
Tales From Earthsea

Meh Tier:
Ponyo
My Neighbors the Yamadas (would be at least good tier as a series of shorts watched individually, but watching it all at once places it here)

Shit Tier:
Ponyo (subsequent viewings)
Howl's Moving Castle (third act)
The Secret World of Arrietty (US Dub)
The Wind Rises (third act when the romance starts overrunning the plot)

>>81681676
i actually enjoyed mononoke more than miyazaki's other films because it actually benefitted from that fairy tale feeling, but i couldn't watch kiki's delivery service or howl's moving castle more than once or twice. They're just boring to me. This isn't to say i dislike ghibli films, i think they're really pretty but i just find them really lacking in substance compared to takahata's films.

i think makoto shinkai's children who chase lost voices is a good example of this sort of style done well, with reasonably well developed characters.

>>81676440

>elder god tier
Whisper of the Heart

>god tier
Grave of the Fireflies
My Neighbor Totoro
Kiki's Delivery Service
Princess Mononoke
Spirited Away
The Wind Rises
The Tale of the Princess Kaguya

>great tier
Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind
My Neighbors the Yamadas

>good tier
Castle in the Sky
Porco Rosso
The Cat Returns
Howl's Moving Castle
Ponyo
Arrietty
From Up on Poppy Hill
When Marnie Was There

>shit tier
Pom Poko
Tales from Earthsea

>>81681867
Well a lot of the PLOTS being fairy-taley do not benefit. They're not good sane storytelling which is why Spirited Away and some of them are such shit. Pretty visuals with 2D prop characters doing weird fairy tale things with no context or reason. Maybe it was lost in translation or cultural context which loses double points for being nippy.

The good stuff is super magical worldbuilding with good characters doing big legendary things for reasons, i.e. nausicaa.

>>81681964

oops, Only Yesterday belongs in god tier

>>81681574
What a shit opinion.

>>81676440
Princess Mononoke.

>>81681977
yeah, the manga written by miyazaki, shuna no tabi, is this sort of storytelling done well

Seriously a lack of The Wind Rises here. That film really resonated with me. It wasn't an easy subject to bring to film even though it was really interesting.

>>81682044
It's a shit opinion, but it's the one I had when I first watched it. I liked it better the second time, but I could not empathise with her in any way. She kept going on about how she couldn't marry Seiji if she wasn't good enough for him. Dude, Seiji wants your vag. He doesn't give a shit if your book is good or not, he just wants your vag. Give it to him for god's sake.

>>81682044
which part? the part about whisper of the heart being too sentimental or..? the characters are too simple for the story to be compelling

>>81682105
The Wind Rises is fine up until he reunites with the girl and makes her his wife. Then she gets sick, the whole cool plane thing grinds to a halt and nothing of value happens for like 45 minutes.

>>81682105
the goofy voice acting by anno is hard to stomach

Nausicaa valley of the wind

>>81676478
Your list is backwards.

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>>81676440
That will be Nausicaa Part2(of3) which I expect he is making now. pic related.

>>81681818
The Wind Rises actually becomes more kino in the third act.

>>81682142
Miyazaki's characters are defined by how human they are. They have very realistic characteristics. From little idiosyncrasies like the need to light a cigarette around you sick wife or taking a moment to property wear your shoes or just feeling an awe when you see a scenery to bigger human flaws. They're not hyperactive genki or tsundere girls/boys with a lot of outward personality because Miyazaki's storytelling is all about sublties. Another part of it is they learn life lessons from the events that unfold. It's never in a sense a linear character arc which is found in a lot of Western or even in another anime. The character arc is not outright visible but it relies on heavy implications that they've absorbed something or learnt something. There's a lot more going in those films than one would grasp on a surface level "popcorn munching, Twitter checking" viewing. Really pay attention to how Miyazaki handles big character moments or the little one and compare it with Pixar/Disney/ other anime.

>>81676440
I strongly feel that this question is an insult to humanity itself and I must humbly state that Ghibli is just a name.

>>81682565
And then Spirited Away happened and had no redeeming qualities.

>>81682176
Well it just shows his determination and foolish pursuit of chasing his dream over valuing something real like a human connection that he would lose because it's so limited by nature of fate. It adds another layer of depth to his character.
The whole movie is a very tragic. I think originally Miyazaki wanted the character to commit suicide because of the horrors of war that he helped unleashed and because the loss of his wife but Anno opposed so in the final cut it's just heavily implied that he wanted to commit suicide but changed his mind.

>>81676570
You'd probably like it, since you have good taste.

>>81682667
How is Spirited Away a bad movie?

>>81682762
How is Spirited Away a good movie?
>Determined little girl is determined after ridiculous circumstances which are never brought up force her to act determined until magical randomness shows up not as a reward for determination but just because.
>Also there was retroactively something about a river which is never again mentioned
>Things go back to normal and nothing was learned

>>81682823
I haven't seen the movie in a long time but nigga are you seriously going to lose your shit because rules of the magic/situation are not explained? That's literally every Miyazaki movie. You really need to take stuff that's happening on-screen for face value. That's how fantasy movie works.

>>81683026
Not because they're not explained but because they don't matter. It's just nonsense after nonsense for the sake of drawing silly characters. The only characters that have a chance to have any depth are then thrown away in the nonsense. It's trash.

>>81683097
Elaborate.

>>81676440
Kimi No Na Wa

>>81683229
I think the only characters that actually have any sort of "arc" are chihiro and haku(?) and chihiro is so set apart from anything happening that it's really no surprise that her life/personality/everything doesn't change a fucking bit throughout the... chain of completely disconnected events that can't exactly be called a story.

Haku has this mysterious foreshadowing thing going on the whole time only in the end it's still basically not revealed to anyone, then chihiro says something random to pretend that it is only the movie suddenly halts instead of coming to any conclusion.

I think in terms of character development the silent pile of bouncing head creatures are #3.

>>81683293
better plot than any ghibli movie if i'm being honest

>>81683293
worst shinkai

>>81683293
why does everyone love this movie? it's so uninspired compared to shinkai's earlier work

>>81676440
The Tale of Princess Kaguya.

Literally the only flaw is that the little boys have dicks and the little girls don't have pussies. You don't censor one and not the other.

Kiki

power gap

Spirited Away
Mononoke
Naussica

power gap

rest tbqhwyfamalam

power gap

Castle

power gap

Whispers of the heart

This list includes everything not explicitly stated.

Whisper of the heart

>>81681818
>The Tale of the Princess Kaguya

No that's full plen tier, not worth finishing.

Swap spirited and Kiki and you have a decent list

anyone looking forward to this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2IQqNP1ajg

>>81683293
Garden of words and 5cmps are much better

>>81676440
Spirited away my nigga

>>81682446
no that's for the movie about an insect he's doing

>>81683293
Not Ghibli but still a pretty good film.

>>81684509
I'm especially looking forward to this.

Whisper of the Heart.

Made me tear up dammit

>>81684518
LMAOing @ your life

>>81684518
I like them too but they don't have a driving narrative or characters you can get invested in, it's all theme
Kimi no na wa is the whole package and it's executed flawlessly.

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>>81684509
>Based on a novel
The last Ghibli films that did this were Howl's Moving Castle and Arrietty and both of them were less than stellar.

Ghibli are at their best when they come up with their own shit, I don't know why they've become so obsessed with British children's stories all of a sudden.

I suppose they want that western audience.

>>81684578
Whisper of the Kino is easily one of the best

>>81684633
actually that would be When marnie was there and it's the same director who started this new studio and has a bunch of ex ghibli people too if it wasn't obvious
>Ghibli are at their best when they come up with their own shit
that was always all Miyazaki though.

>>81676440
Porco Rosso 2: Spanish Civil war bugaloo, will be the pinnacle of kino when it comes out.

>>81676570
Haven't seen Porco Rosso but otherwise my man

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>>81681818
>Marnie higher than Nausicaa
>Earthsea not alone in Shit Tier
>Spirited Away in God Tier
Bad taste

>>81684674
>that was always all Miyazaki though.
Takahata directed Grave, Only Yesterday and Kaguya.

Some other fella directed Whisper of the Heart

>>81684774
well mostly Miyazaki then
you can still his influence on those movies too

>>81684558
>movie about an insect
nah.
I guess you're talking about a short film, "Kemushi No Boro".
I said about a long film. He has returned to making a long film.
And they have never said about the content and the title.
I've read some articles which say that the feature film is gonna be the longer version of "Kemushi No Boro". like this one below

http://variety.com/2016/film/asia/hayao-miyazaki-hint-return-to-feature-film-1201917158/

But it's not true. Their source is a video from NHK below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfM7iTDwRMo

In this video, they didn't say a word about the content and the title of the film.
So, nobody knows about it so far.

>>81678645