Name something you like about the Prequels

I liked the tension and dark tone of Revenge of the Sith. Also Ian McDarmid as Sheev.

The variety and scale of planets.

They've already defaulted back to desert/forrest/snowy planet trope in the new series

>>81670942
The character and creature designs, 100% the music, some of John Williams' best. I love the clone troopers, particularly the Commanders.

And I will always, always, always love the opening to Revenge of the Sith. Absolutely stunning visuals, even for a CGI-clusterfuck. But the music, again, brings magic in there.

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Pod racing and Duel of the Fates soundtrack?

I blame these movies for getting me into politics at a young age.

That scene in ROTS when Palpatine declares himself emperor always gives me chills.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZq53GloUhw

This first minute of this is pure Star Wars kino

>production design(especially the shit that didn't make it in)
>score is outstanding
>ian mcdiarmid hamming it up as sheev

>>81670942
sheev

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why are nerds against the prequels against?
cuz muh nostalgia?

>>81670942
Darth Maul was my favorite character when I first watched all the movies at age 8 (I haven't watched any since)

Score and sheev. This is the only right answer.

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Anyone else feel like the prequels had more emotion than TFA? I don't mean that like I love the prequels, 90% of them were poorly written with flat and uninteresting dialogue, but I mean the best parts of them, the ones that stand out, REALLY stand out. Mostly the parts utilizing the score. TFA just felt completely manufactured and I don't remember any moments in the film that felt like they were there to hype me up, or were awesome enough to get hyped over.

>>81671431
>Anyone else feel like the prequels had more emotion than TFA?

No, I completely agree. I'll say with pure honesty that the Jedi being cut down as Order 66 is carried out really got to me. The score had so much impact.

That was one of my biggest complaints about TFA, where was the fucking score? I don't remember a single fucking thing from that movie music-wise. Nothing stood out.

But I can hum you a tune from each Prequel, no problem.

>>81671208

God, this brings back so many good memories.

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Unironically the best ending to a Star Wars movie except maybe Return of the Jedi

Not sure if this counts as OT pandering since it's just tying the movies together. Maybe TFA feels so weird because it's a separate, unintended story whereas the prequels, even if they weren't great, were trying to tell more of the main story.

>>81671431
It's no surprise at all really. Regardless of what you think of the prequels Lucas just wanted to tell a story first and foremost with a tragic character like Anakin. That was his motive and it shows especially in III with order 66 and such. And regardless if you think it's a good or bad thing, but disney's motive is to just get people excited for star wars and make as much money as possible and it shows, TFA is nonstop action making little room for world building or emotion with a safe rememberable plot to get people who grew up with the OT all warm and they accomplished that mission.

I personally prefer the prequel route and don't understand why people would say it's better to have safe formulaic things than risk taking cause even if it's a terrible mess you still get interesting concepts and worlds that other talented people can improve and work off of. The clone wars series, republic commando, and KOTOR are prime examples of this.

>>81671957
mostly agreed

lucas at his heart wanted to tell a story. if it had flaws, it did, but he wanted story first, action pieces were built around it

disney's fault, is that they got JJ, who doesn't have an original bone in his body. i have higher hopes for TLJ because rian is obviously a better writer/director, but it's already too late, he has to build off of JJ's foundation. had they gone with rian first or somebody like duncan jones it'd be much better.

JJ's stench has tainted the ST, and we'll have to wait for ep 10-12 for any chance, but by then disney will think that JJ's forumula is the best because made so much money when in reality TFA was always going to bank

>>81671199
Made me happy

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The memes

>>81670942
Duel of the Fates

The tension and dark tone of the 3rd movie

SHEEV

>>81670942
overall plot of AOTC. horribly executed, but if dialogue was done right, it would probably be the best movie.

>>81670942
I legitamitally enjoyed the Darth Maul fight at the end of Phantom Menace. But it sucks that Maul had zero character going for him other than his look. Wasted potential.

>>81674002
>legitimately
Fuck, my spelling sucks.

>>81673929
I don't even remember 90% of the movie. At the beginning they're on Coruscant and they do that speed chase shit, and at the end of the movie there's clones and Jedis fighting in the arena. What happens during the middle 80% of the movie? Some shit about killing sand people?

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H E R S H L A G

>>81671190
no matter how "ps2" people say this movie looks, the lighting was absolutely phenomenal for the late 90s

>>81671318
No it's because the prequels were objectively shit and ruined a lot of what made the first movies so good.

>>81674731
why are the first ones better though? old nerds have no real argument.

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>>81671431
I prefer the formalism of the OT. Every movie is a "feels" movie now, it's just pandering. Get the fantasy-suspense aspect down and quit messing with the tone. I don't need people crying next to me in the theater.

>to answer your question
Phantom Menace for Coruscant, and ROTS for its ending.

>>81671318
Blame RLM. But it's only a vocal cabal of internet cynics that takes them seriously. Outside of that bubble, the prequels are the most popular film series of the century so far.

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>>81675111
They were directed by guys who had been overseas. Kershner had made documentaries on the Middle East and Marquand had worked for the BBC on an historical film which is skipping my mind atm. It's definitely the cultural angle; you feel like you're in a different place but there's a ceremonial or courtly aspect which governs even the most lawless planets. Its medieval, suspenseful, fantastic, and chill.

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>>81671350

Yes, he's my favorite also.

No diatribes, no campy backstory. Just quiet decisive violence.

A great villian.

>>81675131
why are people so obsessed with being told what to like?

>>81675291
>It's definitely the cultural angle; you feel like you're in a different place but there's a ceremonial or courtly aspect which governs even the most lawless planets. Its medieval, suspenseful, fantastic, and chill.

literally every star wars made

>>81670942
Memorable dialogue.
I think most of us can recite most of ep 3.

The clone wars was a GOAT show and the overall aesthetic was fantastic

>>81675454
A talent many would deem... Unnatural

>>81675396
>literally every star wars made
Ehhhh, I don't know. The OT is way more organic, it seemed like they were directed by people who went outside once in awhile. The prequels are over-civilized to the point where they are suffocating to watch. The spectre of losing a loved one is a very specific fear to concentrate on.

In the OT, civil authority is shown as a more positive force because there's more attention paid to how the social order has decayed. Cloud City might be fun to hang out in, but they can't marshal themselves. Jabba's Palace might be a great hangout but you may be fed to the Rancor. It's a parable; we're more likely to be spiritually corrupted by the social landscape of the OT.

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>>81670977
Sheev is always based. Can't not like him.

One thing I liked about TPM was the role of 'bread and circuses' among the slaves. It would be funny to see the Stormtroopers watching a podrace take place in the next film, just to reiterate that Entertainments can be used against people for negative purposes.

V > IV > R1 > III > VI > VII > I > II

>>81675946
It's actually kind of an irony that in the ancient world, you could eventually win your freedom through gladiatorial combat or through skillful argumentation for example. Lucas reiterated that trope more than once.

Like for example, if a citizen clung to the robes of a Roman ruler and asked for leniency, they could expect to receive it. The historical principles found in the OT show that the characters are part of a fairly elaborate social game.

>>81676011

yikes

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_Ludens

>>81670942
I think the Gungans were conceptually a really awesome race, but Jar Jar fucked it all up and turned them into a cartoon.

>>81671318
They're muddled down, bad films. Simple as that.

I rewatched all of the Star Wars movies (in release order) about a year ago and decided to try and be unbiased towards the prequels (I had not watched them since they were released). I didn't enjoy anything about the prequels, though, and the experience left me feeling somewhat dead inside by the end. Since then I haven't cared about Star Wars anymore. I went to see The Force Awakens out of habit and still feel the same.

>>81670942
Qui-Gon Jinn
Darth Maul
Sheev
Obi Wan

>>81676011
IV > V > VI = VII > III > I > II

I turned off R1 after 25 minutes, so I can't really speak for that turd.

Episode IV is the best. It's a self-contained story. If you watch the original version and try to take it on its own terms without reading the other movies into it, you can tell that the rest of the story wasn't made up yet and it's just a space adventure movie. Darth Vader isn't anyone special, etc. It's so effective at creating an immersive, believable world.

V is a nice romp but the shitty additions to the story start to pile up here until we end up with Ewoks and other nonsense in VI. I wish the only movie that was made was the original.

>>81670942
I liked the hype before Phantom Menace came out, it was pretty exciting times.

>>81670942
>icky icky poodoo

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>>81676638
>putting 7 on par with 6 and above 3 & 1

Confirmed for reddit fag.
>muh production values
>muh strong female lead
>muh black psychopathic storm trooper REPRESENT
>muh stilted acting
>muh ruining establish relationships
>muh "vulnerable" edge lord baddie

And so on and so forth.

>>81677212
You seem upset.

3 and 1 are turds, 6 and 7 are above average at best.

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>>81677757
>posting a laughing face with mockery means im upset

Are you retarded?

I like episode I. It doesn't take itself too seriously and serves as an alright introduction. Sure, jar jar binks and the kid are annoying and there are some generally stupid plot elements but its an alright kids film.

The 2nd and 3rd films are where it really turns to shit

>>81676011
V > IV = III > VI = I > II > VII
Rogue One doesn't count, it's apples and oranges.

>>81670942

>liking the prequels

Damn, the Reddit infestation is real

>>81679159
But hating the prequels is reddit

>>81678585
I agree with this.

>>81678930
>ranking III that highly

No.

>>81679187

No, liking them is reddit. Reddit now loves the prequels and claims "normies don't get them".

So congrats on being Reddit, I suppose

>>81676011
>>81678930
V > IV > VI > VII >>>>>>>> R1 >>>>>>>> III >>> I >>>>>>>>> II

off yourselves you literal retards

The duels, soundtrack, buildup, tragedy, and the entirety of ep3.

>>81679292
>R1 over lll
>Vll over anything

You have to go back >>>r/eddit

>>81679214
Congrats on your new pasta that I've seen you post everywhere. Too bad it doesn't change the fact that Reddit has been hyping Disney shit since day one and prequel/EU support is a niche, small minority group.

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>>81670942
Trees

>>81670942
I liked Natalie Portman

>>81679345
Yes, VII was better than every prequel movie by a mile and if you honestly think otherwise you need to get your brain checked

And Rogue One is trash but if you honestly hold III that highly then you truly have shit taste, and should probably stop breathing

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>>81679214
Jesus Christ, I hope you don't seriously decide what your opinions on movies are based on whether or not Reddit likes them.

I liked how Qui-Gon tried to jew that space jew.

>>81679447
You can't give that guy shit when the person he's arguing with is also using Reddit as his argument

>>81679431
this

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>>81679431
>VII was better than every prequel movie by a mile

>generic corporate capeshit is better than flawed movies that tried to do something interesting

I liked when it was over

I wish they'd called Episode III "Revenge of the Smits" because I love Jimmy Smits.

>>81679577
trying to be interesting and failing while being shit doesn't make you better than a good movie that's fun to watch

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>>81679577
>frowning harder to II than VII
>smiling to Rogue One

The way the scene changes every minute to something else.

>>81679431
Hold it, mickey. Vll was a trash attempt at nostalgia bait with shit character and no originality what so ever. lll was an epic conclusion to a tragic story revolving around the main villain of the OT.

>>81677757
>>81679159
>>81679214
>>81679292
>>81679431

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>>81679431
>>81679561
Like mudslimes in Europe, these reddit immigrants will never go back will they?

>>81671431
>Anyone else feel like the prequels had more emotion than TFA

Yes. The dialogue in the prequels was the pinnacle of cringe, but I cared about the characters anyway.

I never gave even half a shit about anyone in TFA, and thus about anything that happened in that flick. I've seen it twice and still couldn't tell you what exactly happens.

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>>81679653
>lll was an epic conclusion to a tragic story revolving around the main villain of the OT

I'm biting the bait so hard right now I'm breaking all my teeth

why do I come to this board

>>81679636
>a good movie that's fun to watch
>TFA

You have lower standards than the rest of /tv/

>>81679710

If Kasdan had written the dialogue to remove Lucas' clear autism, III would've been up there with V. Everything else about it was perfect.

Go watch it again.

I can't believe I share a board with fucking prequel shitters

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>>81679577
fixed

>>81679353

Nope. It's now mainstream to like the prequels and hating them is now complete considered a meme.

>>81679447

I hate them. Always have. Just stating that /tv/ will have to go back to hating them since is now acceptable to like the prequels.

>>81679544

/tv/ is literally contrarian the board.

>>81679653

Hey, another normie!

>>81679770
You mean ruined.

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>>81679776
>>81679710
>>81679578
>>81679431
>>81679292
>>81679214
>>81679206
>>81679159

>>81679770
RLM parrot

>>81679761
no, literally nothing about it other than Ewan McGregor as Obi-Wan was perfect

That only rubs salt in the wound. That casting was more perfect than J. K. Simmons as J. Jonah Jameson and they wasted it on this trash. At least cast an inaccurate actor as Obi-Wan so the shit can at least be consistent

>>81679857
Do they think IV > V? I actually hate VI but I felt it was still better than the other shitty ones.

>>81679292
This is the true one. And VII is pretty damn close to VI.

>You only hated the prequels because of RLM!

I still liked episode I because of nostalgia reasons, I enjoyed III a lot because of palpaltine in general but you have to be an absolute shill to say those films are not ridiculous at all.

>>81670942

IV > V > VIII* > II > R1 > III > VI > I > VII

>>81680046
They are, but you also have to be a complete shill to say they are flat out trash and that Vll is even remotely better.

>>81679292
>VII that high

other than that it's ok

best light saber fights

>>81679431
This website is 18+, friend.

>>81680075
They aren't depending on what you are looking at, the visuals are great but the plot/pacing are shit IMO.

I hated VII for a number of reasons but at least the film doesn't make me goes "what?" like when I was watching the prequels.

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>>81679292
>R1 >>>>>>>> III >>> I >>>>>>>>> II
looks like my man Smits has you in a bit of a snit

>>81671906
Ay yo hol up, I have a question, if at the end of Episode III they show the DS being built, why is it until Rogue One that they complete it? Did it really take them 20+ years?

>>81679842

>le shill meme

Get another argument. You're as bad as the retards who scream Reddit

>>81680137
>but at least the film doesn't make me goes "what?" li

Right.... So, you didn't say what when

>Kylo is basically an angsty virgin
>Rey is basically a mary sue
>WE WAZ STORMTROPERS was able to fight with a SITH NOVICE and injure him.
>A literal planet laser gun thing
>rey was able to summon her force abilities without any prior knowledge of it
>Han let himself die just because
>Basically a repeat of New Hope, just to cash in on those prequel hating redditors

>next movies will be about rey being a reincarnation of an elder jedi and shit

Prequels were ridiculous yes, but let not kid ourselves here.

>>81680204
*upvote*

>>81674275
That outfit was pure sex

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>>81680204
take a shill pill m'man

>1
Duel of the fates was 10/10
I thought the podrace was fun
Gave good motivation to introduce anakin into the cast, I guess

>2
Colosseum battle
uh...Obi wan was a detective, I guess

Ive blocked out so much of this piece of shit all I remember is the last 1/2 hour or so

>3
Grievous/obi wan fight was great
order 66 was top notch
obiwan vs anakin was great, even though anny was a gigantic pussy
yoda vs dooku was pretty good

>>81670942
I unironically like all of the prequels. Episode 3 especially is just as good as the OT. Ewan McGregor was brilliant as Obi-Wan. Plus the video games were great. Star Wars Podracer? Bounty Hunter? Republic Commando? The original Battlefront games? Great stuff.

IV > V > VI = VII = I = II = III = R1

>>81680680
Are you joking?

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>>81680468
>3
>yoda vs dooku was pretty good

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in defence of 6

I spent every birthday from age 6 until 10 watching episodes 4 &6 (or sometimes all 3) for some reason, and 6 really grew on me. The ewoks didnt bug me that much

>>81680780
Episode 6 would be flawless without the ewoks
Weren't they originally supposed to be Wookies? Wookies being able to fight stormtroopers without getting btfo would actually make sense. Goddammit George Lucas.

>>81680290
>Kylo is basically an angsty virgin
>Rey is basically a mary sue

Rey is also a fucking bitch and never stops trying to belittle everyone she met, yes I do noticed both of those things and I am chalking them up to the recent social movement influences.

Almost every other point you listed can be "dismissed" by just saying that both characters are mary-sues and can perform every task at their first try, I hated VII but it made more sense at face value to me than the prequel did.

>>81680908
>I hated VII but it made more sense at face value to me than the prequel did.

Well, I got the opposite. Where as the Prequel took place before the empire ruled, everything that happened could be chalk up by saying it was before the empire, and led up to the OT and gave more insight on who some character were. Whereas TFA took everything that happened and the characters fought for and threw it in the trash.

>>81680198
It took them a long time to find the crystals needed to power the laser which was like the whole point of the thing, otherwise it's just a big star base

>>81680888
It's supposed to be a Force thing

I don't know if they were actually supposed to be wookiees and got changed, but the story is okay with Ewoks.

"Look at me, judge me by my size, do you?" etc

>my cashgrab teddy bears are actually a deep metaphor for the vietcong defeating america
yuppie scum, everyone

>>81670942
Episode 1 was the last Star Wars movie to actually feel like a Star Wars movie.

>>81682015
"No."

>>81682247
>Yes

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unironic star wars kino coming through

>>81676011
Late but

V>IV>R1>III>VI>I>II>never having seen any>VII

Onky objective truth.

>>81671318
There are a lot of writing problems with those movies. Objectively they're very far from perfect, BUT, as far as I'm concerned Episode 7's turbo-shitiness almost completely absolves them.

The main thing I have problem with it is that Darth Vader BUILT C3P0 and R2D2 was hammed in... why the fuck was that even done? Just make a new droidbro... like nigga...

>>81671431
TFA was dog shit... the prequels weren't great but they're kids movies or something right?

Right guys?

FUCKING KIDS MOVIES!

>>81670942
Unique, memorable, fitting with the originals, has a very George Lucas feel. Kinda makes you happy concidering the prequels were independent movies.

The new Disney Star Wars feel like your typical cold Hollywood manufactured movie, that comes preassembled with a political agenda guarteened to obtain maxmium shekels.

>>81682790
they're shitty kids movies, what fucking kids movies have like fifteen scenes of intergalactic senate hearings

star wars was good because it was a kids movie and an adults movie

>>81679447
it's true but redditry is a good gauge of whether you're fucked up or not.

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>>81679776
>It's now mainstream to like the prequels and hating them is now complete considered a meme.

>>81682869
Yeah well... episode 7 was shit mate.

>>81683072
The hate is overblown manchild autism syndrome, anon. If there is one thing RLM accurately pointed out, it's people don't like change and boy did Lucas try to create something new. It's sad that people highlight their own arbitrary issues with the prequels, like the dialogue, while shrugging off gems from the original trilogy like "i recognized your foul stench when I was brought on board". Star Wars was built on cheesy dialogue, but prequel haters took that issue and ran with it. Ans don't get me started on the CGI, becauae without Lucas's pioneering advances, modern blockbusters, like Lord of the Rings, would be less than memorable.

>>81683245
but they defend the originals with zealot like behaviour. their not that good. with the exception of the return of the jedi and the force awakens, they are all decent movies, have shit dialog, politics and "muh prophecy"

>>81683504
I think it has to do with childhood memorirs and having a soft spot because of that. I'm guilty of that too. I love both trilogies but can't see myself liking the new Disney one becauae I'm older now and can see what Disney is trying to do behind the rose colored glasses and nolgastia. They're setting up an empty cash grab, politically driven void. It's very sad. But whatever.

>>81683682
>memorirs
Memories*

>>81670942
The patrician choice is to hate star wars altogether.

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>>81675374
>tfw thanks to the Disney buy out and EA getting exclusive vidya rights the Darth Maul game, Battlefront 3, Dark Forces 5, 1313, and more got scrapped.

>>81670942
I liked the comfy world of Coruscaunt and other planets like Geonosis, Kashyyk, Naboo, etc

>>81670942
One of these past years i rewatched the prequels because i had a faint memory of them so i rewatched them and it felt euphoric and nostaglic. Im trying to avoid watching them so the next few years i could rewatch it again and get the great feeling of nostalgia

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>>81675658
Thank the Maker for TCW. Favorite moments / story arcs?
>Threepio and Artoo's misadventures where they inadvertently destroy at least 1 civilization while trying to return to Republic Forces
>Ghosts of Mortis, this whole scene is pure Science Fantasy Kino https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=groYO_51bwY
>Mark Hamill as Darth Banehe's a big sith
>Pretty much all of season 5 setting up Revenge of the Sith
>Space 'Nam in Umbara
>Ahsoka's 'The Fugitive' arc
>Clone Commandos are canon now. Commando Gregor and Delta Squad confirmed.
>Sheev at his Skeezy Sheeviest while whipping the shit out of Maul and Savage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7hBZNsPnyg seriously, watch that shit. Palpy just swoops right onto a hostile planet, kills the throne room guards and gives Maul the beating of his life while just relishing every single second of it.
>Witches of Dathomir
>Asajj Ventress's entire character arc
>Very first episode is exactly how you'd expect Yoda to fight a guerilla battle.
>Domino Squad, and the Order 66 arc
>That one where Cpt. Rex is injured and ends up recovering on a deserter's farm.
>The Seven Samurai arc
Anything else I'm missing?

>>81679578
Statler and/or Waldorf leave

>>81679770
contrarian boomer detected
>>81679799
dubs don't lie

>>81677212
>muh black psychopathic storm trooper
Finn? Finn a psychopath, no fucking way

>>81670942
The Pod Race, the soundtrack, the space battles, the planets themselves...
I have a hard time truly hating the prequels as there was a lot of good stuff in there. The trouble is the retarded stuff was truly retarded and managed to bring down the whole trilogy to a pre-school level.
When a cartoon manages to flesh out the movies in a more mature and nuanced way and actually explain some of the deeper psychological motivations for some of the characters apparently stupid actions, that's kinda sad.

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>>81679214
To 4chan, everything is Reddit, even life itself.

This means that Reddit is way superior than 4chan.

>>81684937
Asajj was a great character, watching her arc through apprentice to fugitive was a nice parallel narrative to Ahsoka's, the fact that they both essentially ended up at the same place through different paths highlighted just how much the Jedi were like the Sith in their dogma.
It's a pity they killed her off in one of the books like a pussy. That was pathetic.

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>>81686462
>It's a pity they killed her off in one of the books like a pussy. That was pathetic.
What? Why?

>>81686517
Yeah, she fell in love with a Jedi, he started to get turned to the dark side, Dooku tried to kill him with force lightning but she put herself in the way and dies in the Jedi's arms, her sacrifice turning him back to the light side.
I know it sounds romantic and almost plausible but the writing was young-adult level so it comes across as being totally unbelievable.

>>81686860
sounds like twilight tier fanfic. feels bad man.